How would you fix it?

Palworld knockoff.

go back to 2D. maybe make it 2.5D like octopath.

>>713123606 (OP)
By never moving on from the Gen 1/2 aesthetic.

>>713123721
Gen 5 was 2.5 and is the least successful generation

>>713123606 (OP)
nuke gamefreak

>>713123606 (OP)
More version exclusive content so they don't feel like 99% the same game.

>>713123737
>primary gen 3 complaint isn't real

I guess they're perfect then

>>713123872
It was also the best game mechanically. The pokemon designs just sucked.

>>713123606 (OP)
Hire the team that made the best fangame and give them the right to continue making pokemon games instead.

>>713123872
>>713123721
Yeah, I think once the 3D Pandora's box has been open, it's difficult to go back to it even if it does look better. So, I think it'll have to stay looking 3D but they also need to try make a large game that works on a switch(2). So, that also puts some limitations on it. It would be a miracle if they could make something that has a good mix of styles that many players would accept without some casuals calling 2D/2.5D "mobile/old" and losing interest

Really, I think most people have accepted the current look but I think it's the whole story, region, variety of characters and gameplay that needs an overhaul. lol which is basically everything else but easier said than done.

>>713123606 (OP)
Ditch the two versions gimmick
Return to the suburban exploration aesthetic instead of the crazy fantastical locations
Don't skimp on graphics to the point that fucking botw looks like it's a generation ahead when it released on the generation behind you
Use the catching mechanic from let's go Pikachu
Have reasons to actually catch and trade Pokemon, instead of just picking the best 4-6 to use in combat
Have a non retarded story

>>713123606 (OP)
remove pokemon levels
jntroduce player level
tie pokemon power to player level
tie evolution to pokemon affection to player

>>713123737
>gen 7 not included
what is he trying to say?

>>713124897

>>713124897
it's made by a zoom and gen 7 was their first

this seems to be the case for a lot of modern fans as it's very hard to get them to hear negative criticism of it

>>713123606 (OP)
Shigeki Morimoto in full control of the games.

>>713125183
Gen 7 is to younger zoomers what Gen 4 was to kids to elder zoomers.

>>713123606 (OP)
There is no fixing it, I would just let it die, there are plenty of other options, more often than not more fun to play too.

>>713123606 (OP)
Good graphics and animations for all the Pokemon. Seeing a Pokemon kick air and then a footprint emoji shoots out is so embarassing I can't understand how the guy who animated that hasn't committed sudoku.

Add a veteran mode that's similar to the difficulty of Polished Crystal. A significant amount of players are manbabies that steamroll the story mode. Throwing them a bone would be warranted after all these years and it would give kids something to work up to.

>>713123606 (OP)
Reboot with Ash from Gen 1 and onwards. Only Ash + companions. No new protagonists.

>>713123606 (OP)
I have never seen a suggestion that wasn't either vague or completely retarded and would kill the series.
If you really want to fix it, just slightly raise the quality of trainer battles without going full Smogon. This is all anyone cares about.

>>713123606 (OP)
Design campaigns to last 20+ hours even if you don't feel driven to spend 10 hours sifting through an open world looking for the precise party you dreamed up before you started.

>>713127903
I don't know about polished crystal, but if the games get a "veteran" mode, it better be as hard yet fair as Clover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcD6tozPmvM

I have an idea

>>713123606 (OP)
Add a pregnant sex mechanic to all mainline pokemon games.
I've created a system where pregnant pokegirls wield the pokemon powers in their bellies to manhandle and dom boys. It started as indirect bestiality BUT I just had an idea for "pokemon bonded Z-crystal impregnation" instead if you hate nonhuman shit. I'm not much a bestiality guy anyway. Inspired by https://exhentai.org/?f_search=0k0j0+lotus
1/3

>>713128854
>Electric
She electrostimulates the boy’s dick, balls, and prostate. Can send tingling pulses through his entire body or totally electrocute him.
Her pussy shocks his cock so hard it feels like his balls are gonna explode.
>Ghost
Soul bond. They feel each others pleasure. Her touch and pussy feels like being caressed by phantom hands.
It’s like her pregnant pussy is haunted, jerking him off from the inside.
>Psychic
Hypnotizes the boy into a trance and influences his thoughts. She can share vivid mental impressions.
She brainfucks him so hard he can’t tell if he’s cumming in her or just imagining it.
>Fairy
Feels euphoric. Heals and soothes the boy with a pussy that feels heavenly like silk.
Her pussy’s so soft it feels like he’s fucking a cloud.
>Fire
Her pussy is burning hot but doesn't harm. Perfect for blizzards, her body heat keeps them alive.
It’s like sticking his dick in a furnace. Her swollen belly radiates heat and melts his brain with pleasure.
>Ice
Her pussy is cold and refreshing, sending shivers of pleasure through his body. Feels like an icy onahole. Good for hot weather.
Her frosty cunt makes him shiver so hard he can’t tell if he’s freezing or just cumming his soul out.
>Water
Her drenched pussy controls his seminal fluids forcing him to ejaculate then sending it back in then roiling it around. She also grants water-breathing.
She milks his cock dry, then slams the cum back in like she’s recycling it.
>Grass
Secretes medicinal nectar that's a powerful aphrodisiac. Turning him desperate and manic.
Her pussy juice is basically liquid Viagra; one taste and he’s humping her like a feral animal.
>Poison
Hallucinogenic fluids that flood his senses. She is intoxicating like alcohol.
Her toxic cunt makes him trip balls while she rides him.

>>713123606 (OP)
It can't be fixed, we've outgrown the game anon. Or maybe it could if we go back to Gen 3 and forget any following generation ever happened. Also kill competitive pokefags

>>713128939
>Bug
Life Drain. Drains the boy’s energy during sex then pours it all back in.
She fucks him half to death, then her womb pumps his energy back just to make him beg for another draining
>Flying
Levitating powers where the girl manhandles the boy. Her pussy imparts an elated sense of lightness.
She flips him around mid-air like a fuck doll while riding his dick so hard her bouncing pregnant belly brushes against his chest.
>Ground
She and her pussy exerts a crushing gravitational pull. It pushes him down with pleasurable heaviness and compresses his dick.
It feels like her preggo pussy is trying to crush his cock while pinning him to the ground
>Rock
She repeatedly petrifies and unpetrifies them, grinding their intermittently rocky genitals together. The jagged slams feel rough and brutal but amazing
Her repetrifying pussy grinds his cock like he's fucking a lubbed up geode. He feels like they're rock monsters
>Steel
Vibrates like a high-tech sex toy. Every thrust feels mechanical yet wonderful.
Her vibrating pussy makes his cock feel like it’s getting jackhammered into oblivion while her swollen belly quivers with every thrust.
>Fighting
She gets hype beyond all reason and monkey-fucks the boy. Her aura makes him feel stronger.
She pounds him so hard with her preggo cunny that he feels like he just lost a wrestling match with his dick as the prize
>Dark
Fear sex. Gets all yandere and sadistic and casts a terror-inducing aura
Her crazy gaze makes his cock harder than steel while she fucks him like a psycho
>Dragon
Her pussy exudes a regal eminence. Feels like fucking pure power and makes every thrust feel monumental.
She is smug as fuck, radiating sheer power that makes him feel like he’s being fucked by a living legend
>Normal
Her belly emits an aura of balance, harmony, and perfection. Every touch feels "just right," bringing relaxation and calm.
Her vagina is so perfectly average that it somehow makes every other fuck feel wrong by comparison
3/3

Making the battles not take an eternity would be a good start

>>713123606 (OP)
I would remake Gen 1 but with much larger areas, no random battles, make Pokémon encounters somewhat rare, and add mons from later gens if they fit with the area.

Create games for two distinct audiences:
>casual players and young kids
>competitive players and nostalgic adults

For the first group focus on stuff like pokemon go and big open world games
For the second group go back to 2d and have more difficult battles and a slightly more mature storyline.

I don't think it's worth trying to fix them if I'll be honest.

>>713123606 (OP)
Difficulty options for adults.
Focus on not making it look like total shit.

>>713128854
>>713128939
>>713129054
I'm sure Nintendo will incorporate this into their mainline game.

>>713123606 (OP)
>Change nothing
>Outsource to Level 5 art department
>Make mad dosh

>>713129454
>another KANTOOOO remake
Fuck off

>>713123872
gen 5 was better than anything that came after it by a wide margin

>>713129806
also

>puzzles
>social link mechanic and dating
>hard difficulty
>challenge mode
>pokemon tcg mini-game

>>713127437
this is how you know the kids have brain damage, gen 7 is one of the worst ones

>>713123606 (OP)
>New game
>Sequel
>Remake
>Remake
>Remake
>Remake of sequel
>Remake
>Sequel to a remake
>Remake
>Remake of remake
>Remake
>Remake
>Remake

idk they should have considered doing something new 20 years ago

>>713128854
>>713128939
>>713129054
Nintendo hire this man

>>713129054
This shit is fucking awesome anon. Should get some stories written about it.

I'm not sure. It needs some sort of soft reboot/reset getting rid of huge swaths of all the slop they've added over the last four gens, while retaining the 10-20% worth keeping. i mean that for both mechanics and mons.
i don't want more nostalgia bait remakes, but at the same time the legends series sucks ass too.

>>713123606 (OP)
gay porn

>>713123606 (OP)
Change the battle system entirely to make it more complex, Pokemon battles in the games themselves felt way too simple desu.

>>713129887
I can't wait

>>713128854
>https://exhentai.org/?f_search=0k0j0+lotus
>https://exhentai.org/g/3168053/a0ed9fd8c2/
That cover is fucking diamonds, my fucking dick

>>713130038
>No new mechanics
>All new moves introduced were dogshit
>all new mons were chinese knock offs of Gen 1
>Dexit forced you to use the shitty new mons at gunpoint
>They tried to make up for all of that with an ''''adult'''' story, which was complete nonsense.
Gen 5 was by far the worst gen of Pokemon in every way. Even 6-9 are superior to it, and only the dumbest of bastards still pretend its good.

>>713130723
best exploration, worldbuilding, and story of any mainline game between 4 and current, only 3 had it beat on the first two

>>713128939
Me and pregnant Ghost-chan: https://files.catbox.moe/2jzhxv.mp4

>>713127903
which is why ppl want battle frontier so much

>>713130302
Thanks

>>713130879
>best exploration
>gen 5
>The region that was a straight line slitghly twisted to disguise it until B&W2 came to fix most the gen's poor choices

>>713132237
All pokemon regions except paldea are straight lines twisted to disguise it (except galar)

>>713132365
You can literally skip the order of gyms in Kanto, Hoenn and Johto have separated areas with water, Sinnoh can become a fucking labyrinth at parts. Unova 1 is literally a straight line with small twisting, not even S/M went that low despite being ultra linear.

>>713129262
>gen 4 has molasses health bars
>new games make health bars near instant
>battles still take longer because of every fucking thing else

it's kind of funny

pregnancy mechanics

>>713123606 (OP)
>PLA style exploring
>remove ALL this bullshit >>713129262
>when you release a pokemon you control it during battle
>different abilities depending on the pokemon(flying types can fly around, ground types can go underground, water types can swim, etc)
>can do this for both battles and outside battles
>make caves great again
>gyms for every type, you choose which 8 you want to battle for the league
>can still battle all gyms, post game challenge for beating all gyms

>>713123606 (OP)
Let another dev makes the games

>>713133215
Lmao read the thread anon

>>713123703
this would work but I think making Pokemon Wilds but 3d with a few things from Palworld and Dark Cloud could work

make the tcg the face of the franchise

>>713129262
Lmao

>>713123606 (OP)
spend .1% of TCPI's annual profits to build a rocket ship that will carry the fraud Junichi Masuda's gay carcass into the sun so he can't sabotage the games anymore

>>713123737
gen 3s biggest issue isn't the water its the awful overworld sprites and lack of a day night cycle, XY needs its story fixed, less sucking off gen 1 and adding back the cut areas and battle camera oh and difficulty its piss easy even for a pokemon game

>>713123872
Gen 4 was 2.5D and were the most successful non-Gen 1 games pre-Switch iirc

>>713134772
I'm legitimately annoyed that they didn't continue with the LG games. I enjoyed the first one far more than I though I would, definitely more than anything made after S&M. All they have to do is fix the retarded decision that you must use only 1 joycon.

>>713135537
lets go has a good art direction for remakes but the gameplay changes is why I will never touch them fuck mobileshit

I hate how competitive is so at odds with how you're incentivised to play the main game and undercuts the "catch your favourites, pokemon are your friends' by adding eugenics as a prerequisite

It's insane. If any other studio came up with such moronic game design, you'd never hear the end of it

>>713135662
the art direction is among the worst things in there, that shit was stale incarnate.

>>713135897
Aren't most of the eugenics things able to be bypassed with items in modern times? You're able to catch a dude and drug the hell out of him and it's just as good as a pure bred if I remember right

>>713123606 (OP)
It's beyond fixing. Most people have moved on to Palworld anyways.

>>713136350
To some extent but its still a tedious solution and grind enducing that feels like a hot fix to a design problem.

>>713136534
>moved on to palworld
https://steamcharts.com/app/1623730

Yeah, it shows...

>>713123606 (OP)
The absolute bare minimum is improving the environment art and animation work. The way they compromise on the visuals is unbelievable. GF, TPC, Creatures, and Nintendo should each and all be humiliated by the way SV looks, not to mention SWSH, and all of the 3DS games. I don't know how they haven't gotten it together by now.

I think a lot of people would appreciate a more engaging game. The one-off gimmicks like Terrastalization, Dynamax, Z-Moves, etc. don't do enough. A difficulty setting would go a long way. I think making every battle a double could help, too.

>>713123606 (OP)
>>>/vp/

>>713137123
>>>/lgbt/

>>713137083
Terrastalisation could be cool since it adds counterplsy to type match ups and a level of uncertainty but of course finding polemon with the "right" terra type is hard, its 1/battle and the design is horseshit. >you became fire type, now you have a giant candle the size of your body glued to your head

>>713123606 (OP)
Abandon 3D and go back to making games with sprites, and outsource more """""modern""""" games to other studios for the retards that just want a 3D game with the pokemon logo on it.

>>713129262
This is infuriating to watch

There’s no way to fix it. The first few gens were lightning in a bottle. So much of it depended on the time and place of those early gens, the vibe of the 90s-00s, the naïveté and innocence of people not yet ruined by the internet and social media and super high def movie games, the card game, all that. You can’t capture it again. I’d probably just remake Gens 1-3/5 over and over again.

>>713129262
>Toughed it out so you wouldn't feel sad
What the fuck

>>713123809
based

>>713129054
brown children owe me footjobs

>>713136534
This

>>713123721
>like octopath
Kill yourself, HD2D has been the biggest blight on the gaming industry since microntransactions.

>>713132659
That is pretty close to the absolute maximum interactions in a turn and nowhere near representative of how anything plays out normally

Palfags are so pathetic

>>713137636
the petting minigame since gen 6 lets your mons get a bunch of cheat powers like healing status and surviving kos

>>713123606 (OP)
Make it like all those DMCAed demos where the Pokemon battle and move in real time.

>>713128358
>cloversir
KYS

>>713139418
Filtered

>>713139037
exclusively in the sinnoh remakes, because there's no petting mechanics, those cheat things are inevitable unless you go out of your way to abuse your pokemon

>>713123606 (OP)
remaster, not remake, Gens III, IV, and V

>>713123721
or this

>>713138603
Is this fair enough for you then?

>>713129262
>>713141759
>the same ancient webms
Pokefag discourse is so shit

The real solution is to completely restructure GameFreak and force them, at literal gunpoint, to stop LARPing as small indie dev studio when they have literally the most profitable franchise in the world on their table. But they're Japanese so that will literally never happen until they rot away of old age.
But let's be real, what needs fixing? Game sales go up every generation. Mouth breathing brand loyalists will buy their slop (twice) regardless of quality.

>>713144087
Aren't they putting out that proper HD soulslike game on everything but Switch/Switch 2? Makes me wonder if they have an excuse prepared for not putting in that kind of legwork on Pokemon.

>>713130135
Gen 4 is honestly shit outside of Platinum.

>>713144087
Beast of Reincarnation alone makes any excuse of Game Freak being "a small indie studio" invalid.

>>713130038
The only people that liked gen 5 were people who started with gen 5.

Bring genius sonority again

>>713123606 (OP)
Pokemon's too big to fail. SV are the best selling mainline games, and BDSP are the best selling remakes. Both games released with tons of fucking bugs. I expect Gen X to be another SM/SWSH KANTOOOO pandering half-baked goyslop, and a shitty Gen 5 demake, outsourced and made out of Lego chibis of course.
>>713134772
I would have happily traded both PLA and BDSP for proper Sinnoh remakes than the dogshit they gave us.

>>713123606 (OP)
they should just make a pokemon mmo at this point
call it pokemon world or something

>>713145482
Nah, you just have shit taste

>>713123721
>make the games worse for literally no reason
No.

>>713147361
better*

>>713147401
worse*

>>713146065
pokemmo is like 10 years old.

>>713123606 (OP)
Make 16 gyms and two regions the standard.
>>713130038
Lol no. Gen 5 was where I gave up on the whole franchise, and I got in as first grader during the height of pokemania. I had every reason to be invested for life.

>>713128939
>>713129054
>femdom
KYS

>sagie vs yawnie war on /v/
um....based

>>713147618
using in bad faith shitpost like >>713147450 is typical of yawnie yeah

>>713145710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_9y0oJ9dFE

>>713147734
>it’s bad faith because it correctly points out that gen 5 looks worse than every single 3D game barring maybe SV

>>713123737
What's the problem with that oceanic stream route in gen 3?

>>713148718
Same surfing encounters for the entire oceanic portion of the map. 99% of Pokemon variance is stuck into fishing and diving, the 1% being a route where Walimer show up in addition to the standard ocean set.

>>713124897
The only problem with S/M was that everybody wouldn't shut the fuck up and let you play for more than 5 minutes. It's one of the most handholdy games in the entire series. Which is unfortunate because almost everything else about the game is fairly solid... compared to the other 3D entries at least.

Delete everything after gen 4. Go back to 2D. Go back to having an art style that appeals to both boys and girls rather than only girls and homosexual furfaggots. Have actual dungeons and puzzles again. Have built in randomiser options and full dex in one game. Minimise obnoxious story shit.

>>713151058
This, i'll add pokemon interactions with the environment and between different species like bird pokemon hunting fish pokemon or Seviper and Zangoose fighting in the wilds. And heavy focus on exploration

>>713151058
>after gen 4
7*

>>713123606 (OP)
Hard reset to gen 2 atmosphere and tone with Gen 5 mechanics