Thread 713148336

>>713148336 (OP)
In reality, there is nothing wrong with a supermarket in the middle of nowhere, but the gameplay autism is in favor of collecting shit.

>>713149779
Are you unfamiliar with the tale of Walton Marke and the eternal chinaman?

>>713150273
Explain.

>>713149779
By definition, in order to remain open, a store makes more money than it spends in employee wages. If a store makes all its money from people in a small town, and only a percentage of that money goes back to people in that small town, necessarily money is leaving. A Walmart or a Dollar Tree is a boot on the throat designed to choke out the locals and then move on.

>>713150532
based knowner.
/v/'s too retarded to understand.

>>713148336 (OP)
>i NEED to destroy the old community center to create a warehouse. it can't go literally anywhere else!
nah he is the bad guy. he wants to destroy the historical site just to demoralize people more and prove that he has power there

>>713150532
lets look at the shops in stardew:
>bar
>animal seller
>blacksmith
>nurse
>farmer
only the farmer (you) is getting fucked, as walmart isnt stealing the market of the other shops

>>713150723
>i NEED to destroy the old community center to create a warehouse. it can't go literally anywhere else!
Yes? It is the only way to defeat the communist insurgency in the valley.

i wish instead of the joja mart shit there was another dilapidated building that you could turn into a commercial building of your choice based on what you farm i.e. restaurant, produce shop, brewery, wine chateau, etc. and it attracted year round random npc visitors/vacationers instead of having in the festival events only.

>>713148336 (OP)
>trying to weasel corporate capitalism in against a perfectly functional small-town communal economy filled with happy people
Making him disappear is a morally good action

>>713150845
but everything in stardew valley costs money even in community center route

>>713150532
This post is antisemitic

>>713150735
You're the only exporter

>>713150735
You can buy alcohol, pet and animal related gear and whatever tools the blacksmith can make from a supermarket

>>713151040
Shut up Pierre, don't you have someone else's child to raise?

>>713151040
>perfectly functional small-town communal economy
Did you miss that the town is dying and the the mayor is a incompetent corrupt faggot that blows taxmoney on making a golden life sized statue of himself instead of fixing anything? Why do you think the community center is in ruin in the first place?

He literally sees that there's a local family run store in town and proceeds to
>undercut it with lower prices
>send his competitor a letter saying "Oh wow, so sorry that you're going to lose your livelihood when everyone starts shopping at Joja instead of your store... feel free to stop by and sign up for a minimum wage cashier job!"
>shows up at the competing store to straight up steal customers, then smugly rubs it into the owner's face
Nah he deserves getting whacked

>>713150723
>historical site
It's an old rundown building that maybe used to have a ping pong table or something but has been replaced by the bar.

>>713151512
>offering jobs to the incompetent townspeople who can't keep their own business running through their own merit
You make him sound like a saint.

>>713151589
Honestly why isn't Gus' saloon the community center? It's where everyone actually goes

>>713151512
t. Pierre

>>713150532
This doesn't apply given that the economies of such a town are not self-contained, and that contributions to the community go beyond just the wages of employees

>>713151512
>undercut it with lower prices
yeah except his prices are actually higher
at least until you buy a membership at which point they become identical

>>713148336 (OP)
I am literally at the last thing to complete Community center. I need this fucking Duck Faether and it wont drop :<
Fuck Joja. Pierre is a bitch, but at least he says hi when i enter the building.

>>713152075
>at least he says hi when i enter the building.
To make sure you don't shoplift

>>713152424
Probably. I said he's a bitch. Also probably he want's some of my wine and truffle empire.

grok what is the Walmart effect?

>>713150532
> in order to remain open, a store makes more money than it spends in employee wages
Why does the store need to do this? The store does it so they can pay for services to maintain the store and for taxes. Only a small amount of profit and it doesn't necessarily mean wages of employees are being pinched. The rest of the income is still circulated throughout the town, such as when Walmart has to pay rent, utilities, taxes, and inventory all of which circulate income throughout the town. In rural areas big box businesses act as subsistence for entire communities and offer them more bargaining power, meaning it empowers locals rather than choking them out and moving on.

Guy who made the game is a communist if you didn't know

>>713152059
The npc's say that the prices at Joja are lower THOUGH

>>713153345
You don't even know what a communist is.

>>713153345
Ok then why does said communist still allow you to join Joja and base a NPC on some youtuber's Joja obsessed farmer

In Poland we have this company called DINO. It's a small supermarket (Like JOJA) that opens up in literally every little shithole possible. And it always kill the small local "village shop" which owner was old lady with a cigarette.
I personally love DINO, and everyone loves it too. This is a 100% Polish company, it supports local producers, and they have high quality meat. And literally in every little town, DINO becomes a community center. You met neighbours there and shit. People love it here (not the little shop keepers btw)
Joja also could be a like DINO, not like fucking soulless walmart.

>>713153412
Everyone I don't like is a communist

>>713153205
> rent, utilities, taxes
AHAHAHAHAHA
Based on calculations made for real world Americans cities every Walmart is huge drain on taxpayer. Walmart NEVER pays enough taxes to cover cost of constructing highway to it and THEY PAY LESS IN TAXES THAN SMALL STORES. Every possible job is outsourced to tax heaven that city nevers sees

>>713153534
>Walmart NEVER pays enough taxes to cover cost of constructing highway to it
>When a new super market opens you have to build an entire highway to it
Do americans really

>>713153205
This isn't true at all. Walmart's biggest effects on small towns is reducing everyone's wages and turning actual good areas into suburbs with massive parking lots. As for money circulation, why do you think jeets all buy from each other? They'll take your money sure but won't give you back business unless it's almost at a loss for you, that way money enters their community but doesn't leave. Walmart at the same time isn't giving back what they're getting out, that all goes back to the central office, or did you think the tens of billions they make all comes from the big city?

>>713153603
It’s worse. Every Walmart box is constructed in such a shitty way to be abandoned in 5-10 years, while having a clause that property cannot be used by any other store if Walmart leaves. Their lawyers also argue that property itself has zero actual value and only value comes from Walmart being open there(to pay as little property value as possible)

>>713153645
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r7-e_yhEzIw
It is true

>>713153795
>Every Walmart box is constructed in such a shitty way to be abandoned in 5-10 years
This isn't true. Lots of walmarts have been up for 25+ years. They also remodel them.

>>713150532
Ok, but not everyone who lives in a small town works within the town itself. If it were entirely self-contained, yeah, you'd be right. The real problem is that Walmart can have much lower prices than a local shop due to things like suppliers cutting Walmart special deals on orders, so why the fuck would I go to Valerie's Apothecary to buy pepto bismol for $9 when Walmart has it for $5

>>713154034
Because in case of a closed ecosystem, those 9$ stays with Valerie's, and she will buy your products, or your neighbour's. The money stay in the community.
Wallmart just take this money and drain it to the head of the corporate hydra which are billionaires.

>have to buy a membership to get good prices
is it me or the only big store membership that is good is fucking costco?

>>713153931
Some stay for 25+ years majority are obsolete in 15

>>713151009
hey this is my game idea, stop stealing and posting them on the internet.

>>713154245
Retail profit margins are thin. There is money leaving the town for the pepto bismol manufacturer in any case, and it doesn't matter much who's collecting resale profit

Morris is a faithful servant of Lord Moloch, working to destroy everything good in the world.

>>713148336 (OP)
I always thought it was weird the JojaMart had higher prices, like, choosing the Joja route should at least give me cheaper seeds, especially since the narrative presents it as a villain who undercuts Pierre on prices with his 75% off coupons.

It's a bit of a strange game though, I just got to the part where it turns out my dinosaurs have been breeding without my knowledge which doesn't make sense because all the dinosaurs are female and I have to team up with Marnie of all people to eradicate the Velociraptor nests so the whole JojaMart thing is the least of my problems.

>killing your local grocery store and town is le good actsually
kys

That dude was most likely some loser just doing his job for a soulless corporation. In all fairness, this is exactly how a small town would react to outsiders.

>>713155937
Isn't that just pathogenesis

>>713155937
What the fuck did I quit playing this game before the real parts started

>>713155937
>it turns out my dinosaurs have been breeding without my knowledge which doesn't make sense because all the dinosaurs are female

Even if you buy the membership the seeds are the same price as Pierre's which is bullshit, they also don't have the other stuff he sells besides seeds.

>>713156031
Sounds like Pierre outcompetes the national chain, impressive

>>713155937
It's almost like when international capital runs all of its competition out of the market it jacks of the prices to whatever it wants without issue.

>>713155963
It makes Lord Moloch happy to see the world be permanently ruined by endless greed.

Joja bros are based and anti-Commies

I'm going to do skull cavern -without stairs- this time.

So far I think I've gotten down to about 60 in one day. I imagine I'll eventually get it done. with not enough time to return to my bed after I pull it off.

>>713148336 (OP)
you sound like you made a mod to romance him

>>713156314
Communism and capitalism both lead to the same result: Lord Moloch laughing as the world is destroyed.

okay
we get it

>>713151512
>Provides lower prices
>I'm meant to be angry about this

wtf I love Lord Moloch

>>713156401

Good luck my dude.

I gotta refresh my mods and start again soon.

>>713150532
You can see this in the EU.
It's always about the Easterners being "subsidized" and "lazy" because they get scraps of funding from Brussels, but meanwhile all their domestic production, factories, resources, and domestic chains were bought up by Germans/Dutch/French, so the flow of capital is massively out of these countries, not in.

>>713148336 (OP)
The community center ending is sucks so much that I always go for Joja in my new saves.
>work tirelessly to get all the items
>my reward is that cuck Pierre showing up and stealing my thunder in front of everyone
Never again.

>>713150532
A store isn't only spending money on employee wages though. It pays for electricity and water and also pays taxes (or at least, it should be) to the town or county it's in. Towns also don't live in an isolated bubble and money flows through the town from the highways.

>>713151512
fuck pierre

>>713157108
It's true that foreign ownership of any successful business is gonna move some wealth out of the town, but a way more effective way to set the trade balance is to actually produce more than you consume. That's what (you) do, as the producer of local exports such as crops and fish

I like how the fucking tourists' eternal quest to do the opposite of everybody they hate does has somehow driven them to the point where they'll gladly take on a shitty dead end minimum wage retail job that they'll probably have to balance with another shitty dead end minimum wage retail job just to make ends meet. In their efforts to stick it to the cucks they've become cucks themselves.

>>713157528
Sounds like a you problem. When I played Stardew I mostly fished and fed my cat.

>>713148336 (OP)
To this day, I dream of a mod to reveal how Grandpa was actually the CEO and Founder of Joja and his gift was a test to see if you can be his successor

Stardew Valley? Shoot, I thought it was named Stardew Alley.

wow i just can't decide between the store run by a cuckold or the store run by the forever alone incel.

i just can't decide

>>713157528
Who? What?

>>713148336 (OP)
>tt-they're providing jobs to the local community!
>so what if they start you off at minimum wage with laughable benefits, they're providing jobs to the local community!
>so what if you're lucky to get a 30 cent annual raise by the end of the year and they cap your wage at like $2.00 above your starting wage, they're providing jobs to the local community!
God damn, how do you not choke to death when you've got so many corporate faggots' dicks jammed down your throat?

>>713158842
Americans live to worship corporations and tip for the privilege.

>>713158648
The Tourist is the main Villain of Stardew Valley, he contravenes the time compression and dimension warped timeline, explaining why no one ever leaves or ages, but he can come and go at will, change his physical features like a shapeshifter, and his personality is always different so you cannot detect him. He doesn't even have memories of who he used to be so finding him is difficult, when he does not even know he is the Tourist. he can be a girl sometimes too btw. or a fish. having fish legs or being a woman is worse than being mininimum wage. but you can't stop him. he actually has a minimum rage on top of things, which is how mad he has to make lowly paid employees per hour. Cukcoldry is part and parcel fop the whole thing. Sometimes, he is both the male and female in the same relationship, which means he is betraying himself. you can see why it's so important to stop the cucks themselves when this happens.

rare siting of the tourist

she seeks out the cheese

>>713158842
I got kids to feed. Not everyone is destined for greatness.

>>713159069
Eat your kids.

>>713156829
And Lord Moloch hates you.

I know it kind of goes against the game's themes but I think it'd be cool to be able to start community gardens and roof top farms in Zuzu City.

>>713148336 (OP)
In a world full of magic bullshit where vibes fix everything, being a greedy soulless corpo slave is pointless. Like trying to be really good at cooking in a fituristic world where everyone just eats protein cubes.

Me in the front

>>713159307
>being a greedy soulless corpo slave is pointless

The cruelty is the point.

>>713158842
It's true that it would be better if they could get the same work done without employing anyone. Then everybody in the town could fish all day or do whatever they want. Maybe that's why Pierre has better prices, he has no labor cost (beyond paying himself).

>>713159049
She looks like a loli or a womanlet

>>713148336 (OP)
the jobs wouldn't be needed if everyone could grow and mine and fish, especially with deluxe retaining soil

>>713155937
When did they add dinosaurs wtf
I played this game like 5 years ago

>>713161331
since skull caverns were added

>>713150273
Explain plz

>>713159069
why did you have kids if they require you working retail at walmart

>>713150273
Explain the tale

>>713150273
Elaborate upon your mentionings.

Stupid local store faggot shouldn't have tried to take credit for my work. Eat shit and lose your business to Joja

save your jades for desert festival days
i got 3 autopetters in one skull cavern dive

>>713153397
NPCs are retarded.
Where I live there's a store chain called Tops that basically does this. They will charge you double what Walmart wants on a pint of blueberries then slap a "buy one get free" sticker on it. Normalfags eat that shit up, buying extra shit they don't need and won't use while thinking they're saving any money. Just the other day I went to get some chips.
>$2.50 a bag at Walmart
>3 for $11.50 "sale" at Tops

>>713156237
>Attention-grabbing "study" made for article publication
>No methodology
into the trash it goes

>>713158842
>tt-they're providing jobs to the local community!
Yes.
>so what if they start you off at minimum wage with laughable benefits
With how high retail turnover is, it doesn't make sense to pay every retarded teenager like a rockstar right when they come through the door. Half of the new hires will make it maybe a month before they get fired for doing nothing but standing around looking at their phones all day. The ones who actually stick around long enough to be worth offering raises and benefits to are the ones who get them.
>so what if you're lucky to get a 30 cent annual raise by the end of the year
If you want to be paid white-collar wages then get a white-collar job, retard.
>and they cap your wage at like $2.00 above your starting wage
If you're working for a company that does this by choice, that's on you. Wage caps are a thing, but they're SIGNIFICANTLY higher than the starting rate.
>they're providing jobs to the local community!
They sure are.

>>713148336 (OP)
>work for minimum wage while wealth is leeched from your community and all the industries slowly die off and young people move away
Th-thanks Reagan

>>713159351
stop sleeping on the job you fucking lazyb*nes

We need to do something

>>713151893
He could probably have saved the Community Center by selling booze & beer in it.

>>713156763
if you don't see the issue now then you're double-diigit IQ.

>>713150273
>didn't bother elaborate any further
I guess I'll stay unfamiliar with the tale of Walton Marke and the eternal chinaman..

>>713156562
True enough, which is why the sensible and grounded middle road is the only viable route for a functioning society: Companies and businesses are the best profit generators but you damn well also need to regulate and tax those fuckers (and certainly keeping them out of health care and schooling).
Make those niggers pay for the roads, educated employees and all the other infrastructure those (((Wall Street))) welfare fucks expect to be served for free.

>>713151512
pierre is a gigafaggot who deserves it

Would make more sense if instead of a warehouse, their goal was to make the whole town into a parking lot. Including your farm. Also no more bus. Buy a fucking car, you bum.

>>713149779
Ironically, taking the Jojo pill is the path to more relaxed lifestyle the farmer moved away from his job for, where you can decide to play however you want and still make progress rather than working on a series of fucking spreadsheet tick boxes.

>>713168074
Yes, you need to add Diana to the board.

And this is why we need universal basic income.

>>713148336 (OP)
>jobs
>two part time positions for a teenager and an alcoholic

>>713155937
>undercuts local businesses by selling at a loss and eating the deficit, which you can do with your boatloads of cash
>once local businesses are destroyed, jack up prices to whatever you please since there's no competition anymore
Sounds pretty realistic to me

>>713165096
>it's on you for not getting a real job that pays you well
are you one of the faggots that told everyone on the planet to learn to code 3 years ago?

>>713151512
stardew is a tranny town of boring girls that deserves corporatization

>>713151589
>finish community center questline
>it goes completely unused after being fixed up by literal magic

>>713148336 (OP)
Nice try rabbi.

>>713170393
Play with SVE

>>713150532
You can't reason with those sorts

>>713151137
kek

>>713153205
>Only a small amount of profit
The purpose of a business is to maximize profit, that priority, maximizing profitabilty for your shareholders, is enshrined into law. You are legally obligated to set aside your morals to maximize profit.
Any system designed to maximize profit will do so at the expense of those in the system. A system which maximizes worker wages, where workers operate within worker cooperatives, is the only system where businesses will not maximize profit at the expense of humanity.
Stardew valley, and most other games, do not understand this fundamental aspect of the system, they critique big corporations but do not recognize why they are evil. The assumption is that it's just some evil guy's fault, some Morris running the business, and once you deal with that one evil business or oust that one evil guy, everything is saved! No changes, no introspection on a societal level, occurs. It was just one bad apple, not a basket riddled with holes.
While it's always appreciated when a game acknowledges that corporations are evil, it's quite tiring that none seems to bother asking what can be done to stop that evil taking root in the first place. The fact that someone like Morris could ever enter a position of power, that such a position of power even existed, was an abhorrent crime in and of itself.

>>713172852
>if you hate jews you support the jewish banks and hedgies that enshittify everything in their quest to wring out every last penny out of everything they lay their hands upon
both sides are the same people
you will never be a woman dickless jidf lapdog