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What is your favorite Ace Attorney meltdown?

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Probably Engarde

Also Dahlia's after Mia and Phoenix exorcise her from Maya

Aristotle Means' was funny

6-2 is pretty kino.
6s in general are pretty good
For og trilogy easily 1-4. Unbelievably satisfying after he spends the whole case shitting on you

Damon Gant for this is something I do in a meltdown.

>>713160539 (OP)
>Engarde finally losing the shiteating grin
>WRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT super saiyan
>Gant clapping intensifies
Hah, all those are technically final cases/final bosses

A personal favorite is the lead-up to Marhall's.
>got one word for you pardner
>SHOT THROUGH THE HEART

does this count?

Irigga

>>713160539 (OP)
Gant or Engarde for sure.

not a meltdown but this is my favorite scene in court

>it was a hologram
>teleports behind u

>>713160539 (OP)
Von karma, Damon Gant, Engarde, Furio Tigre, Dahila, and of course, Kristoph.

Fave ones who aren't a final boss (That includes Manfred and all of Dahlia's/Kristoph's cases)?

>>713164907
This was such utter shit as an ending though

>>713165730
Rocco's knockout

>>713166141
I always wanted to sue the judge since AA2. Why wouldn't I be hyped?

>>713164907
>i love bad deus ex machinas in my mystery solving games because it's le funny

>>713160539 (OP)
Gant

>lmao fuck it you win

>>713162070
Most definitely. Dahlia was some next level cursed shit

>>713166664
DAS RITE

>>713166664
After getting filtered by the blood flowing le wrong way contradiction, I kinda gave no fuck about the satisfaction of solving shit.

>>713166868
this was also dumb. what if he was impaled at an angle and then fell flat. the blood flowing downwards didnt prove shit

I always liked Gant’s breakdown eapecially with the music it felt eerie. I didn’t like that case initially because it’s retroactively added content that doesn’t fit in too well but Gant is a great villain.

Kristoph’s breakdowns are alright too, the first case of AA4 is amazing one of the best cases in the whole series, but the final case is somewhat a letdown because he’s already in jail. My interpretation is that his punishments changes from jail to execution because of multiple murders so I suppose that’s something.

I didn’t like any of the AAI2 breakdowns. They’re funny but felt way too cartoony. It got to the point where you could tell who the culprit is by thinking of who would have the craziest breakdown animation.

>>713164907
>Likes the hologram

You're the first person I've seen say this.

>hologram
why couldnt they have just made it a bug or a listening device with the rabbit ears as antennas?
itd still be unrealistic but way more believable than a hologram

>>713167545
>retroactively added content that doesn’t fit in too well
I don't know, I think it gives better motivation for Edgeworth to push himself away from the table than 1-4 does on its own. The only thing I can think of that doesn't jibe with the other chapters is when Redd White personally calls up the Chief Prosecutor to have Phoenix arrested in 1-2 they seem to be a random nobody, but I have a bigger problem with 1-2's claims about Bluecorp's alleged reach and the pall that casts over the rest of the canon (including hinting that the judge, who would be characterized in later games as 'always arriving at the right verdict' as being one of White's blackmailed puppets) than anything 1-5 adds.

>>713166141
an fitting ending for a dogshit game

>>713168649
Introducing a villain who supposedly can control everyone in the literal second chapter of the game and just killing him off right there with barely any resistance from the people who are under his control and no real aftermath was a very odd move.

>>713166868
That was the best contradiction in the entire series. It was an entirely logical point, hidden in the background the whole, that turned the whole case on its head. You got filtered.

>>713167346
The claim was explicitly Asman got stabbed when he was laying down flat in the bird cage. Sithe would've had to stab him at an unrealistically acute angle for the blood to flow down that far.

>>713160539 (OP)

Von Karma

is spirt of justice good?

>>713169041
"I wanted a steadier aim when stabbing him so i unstrapped him, sat him up, stabbed him and laid him back down"
boom. Contradiction irrelevant

>>713169249
"Better than DD" tier

>>713168250
I think Takumi just did it for the memes/style points. A radio transmitting the trial to the Queen instead of a hologram wouldn't change plot

>>713169272
You're correct but then the case would be unsolvable

>>713166664
It had nothing to do with the case so it's fine

>>713160539 (OP)
>Take a good look, everyone! Unable to find a rival worthy of my genius, I was forced to create one by myself! Here I am! The tragic clown...

Engarde or Kristoph (the second time)

>>713169597
Why does Spamton have blond hair

>>713160539 (OP)
I always thought case 2-2 was so stupid, if nothing happened the doctor guy would have just thought it was a scam and moved on

>>713166141
>>713166664
This was just a fancier way of saying "I snitched on you to the queen" to make things more interesting. The same thing couldve been achieved without a hologram by Sherlock asking for the queen to secretly attend the trial or something, this is just more entertaining.

>>713169272
That's retarded. How would that steady her aim compared to a target that's lying down on the floor?
>I wanted a steadier aim to stab him, so I unstrapped his body from a harness, stood up a large man's body up as a woman, propped it up somehow, stabbed him, and then moved it back down into the harness
Sithe could have made that argument and it's technically unfalsifiable. But she cracked. And it's a shit tier argument regardless, it discernibly less likely than the alternative of Asman being alive post-fall. Ryunosuke would've BTFO her either way, and he had her dead to rights on the blackmailing link.

>>713169285
*the plot

>>713169696
>if nothing happened life would go on
Wooow

>>713169696
Idk the doctor didn't seem completely right in the head himself. He might have actually suspected that Ini was an impostor.

I finished Apollo Justice trilogy recently and it was alright I guess. Most of the cases were mediocre and 3d models were god awful (Edgeworth's animations looks like he's from a WEG), but it wasn't offensively bad like I've seen some people say.
Only case I really didn't like was the final case, the time traveler one. It was beyond boring and felt like a rejected case for The Great Ace Attorney.
The best breakdown was Gant.

>>713169696
Except it's already been well-established in public court by the time that that case happens that channeling works in the AA universe, and Maya has done it herself. Grey set up the meeting because he was counting on a dead person's testimony to clear him.

>>713168250
same reason Watson was replaced with an annoying steampunk loli

>>713170161
It's also been established that people think it's a scam because of the DL-6 incident

>>713170049
AA4 has some good overarching ideas and 4-1 is fantastic, but it's ultimately bogged down by weaker cases (4-2, 4-3) and structural issues in 4-4.
AA5 has way stronger cases, but it's bogged down by the overarching plot (Phoenix stealing the spotlight and the "dark age of the law" being all tell no show, jury system plot getting completely dropped with no explanation, etc.). The difficulty and gameplay casualization sucked too, even while the case logistics were more in-depth than most cases in AA1-3.
AA6 is easily the best mainline game post AA3. It's only weighed down by balancing the large cast and overarching plot issues grandfathered in from AA4/AA5. Top-tier cases, good plot and it largely unjusted the casualized gameplay and difficulty.

>>713170256
>replaced
uh Anon?....

>>713170257
True, but Maya channels Mia while Cody's on the stand in 1-3, so her talent, at least, is proven. He was also pointed in Maya's direction by Miney.
Still, you could be right about him not trusting the seance - his bringing a gun implies he suspected a trap, at the very least.

>>713168694
The game was great overall.

Is there footage of someone having meltdown like these in court irl?

>>713172234
does that dude who lunged at a judge count

>>713170257
Not all people believe is a fraud. SOME people believe it is true.
People like Lotta and Ini Miney (and even Franny), believe it is true. If the doctor went to great lengths to try a channeling session, then of course he believed it too.

>>713172234
Yelling and the like? Yes. But they are usually held in contempt of court and the bailiffs take them away.

>>713166141
Eh, I get why it was like that. The authority being the Queen slam dunk had to have been done:
>without depicting her
>with proof of her knowing what is going on
>without physically being there to interfere or stop without appearing negligent
>with it being a surprise to the player
They could have had a screen wheeled in but the hologram hotline works as a low budget solution.

>>713172234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W9r3vAQZ00
Not exactly the same, but this retard ran through a parade in his car and represented himself in court. Lulz ensues, he gets held in contempt of court and gets kicked out multiple times.

>>713160539 (OP)
Definitely Damon Gant

>>713172314
I would like seeing this in an Ace Attorney game.

>>713166664
Yeah.

>>713172234
https://youtu.be/ksxIDRSs3DI

>>713174367
>breaks down
>gets a not guilty
Is that even legal?

>>713175081
He was found not guilty because the victims are idiots. He would have been found guilty if they hadn't tried to charge him on camera like morons.

>>713170609
I really liked the first three cases in AA6, but I've got big problems with the structure of the last three. The 6-4 is irrelevant to the plot and should have been the DLC case of the game (I actually like the case itself, it would just make more sense to happen after the main story).
6-4 being irrelevant to the main plot is even worse by the fact that 6-5 is actually two cases in one and both subcases are hurt because of that. They should have made the Japanfornia subcase 6-4 instead, so that there is more time to flesh out characters and give more setup to the Khurain case (which in turn could be expanded because it would have full 6-5 for itself).
6-6 is just boring, it should have been scraped completely.
Still, I liked the game, the beginning was great and twists were good, it's just that there was potential for a much better game.

>>713176581
6-4's placement is only a issue if you think the 4th case always needs to be plot relevant or finale lead-up. It's fine, 6-3 was already very plot relevant so 6-4 is just a short filler break. Giving the spotlight to Athena in a game she wasn't involved in was a good move too.

6-5 probably should've been split into two cases, I agree. I don't think the quality of either side was worse off because of it though. 6-5 is already long as fuck, the Khurain half could've been expanded a bit more but the not-Napal half already felt bloated.
6-DLC is mediocre. Not defending that one.

>>713177731
>Khurain side
Meant Japanifornia side, Kurain Village

>>713175515
>He would have been found guilty if it wasn't self defense
Rittenhouse was a retarded kid who shouldn't have been there, but it was 100% self defense. He broke down during his testimony because he's a spaz.

The whole case was interesting. He only testified because his fense team knew there was no way a Wisconsin jury would've voted to acquit him on self-defense without hearing the defendant's side of the story directly.

really not a fan of the soul/soulless think but jesus christ they did a really shitty job by translating the art style in 3d. also the color palette is fucking depressing

>>713176581
>>713177731
It feels like 6's DLC was literally just an attempt at fan service. My first thought upon seeing the whole idea was "cool, the old gang all got together again!" and then my second thought was "wow this case is kinda shit and the writing is plain as fuck."
One thing I'll give to it though is the quality of the not-sprites. Most of the time even being excessively animated.

>>713164907
that darn herlock sholmes, legendary detective trolling as usual

>>713164907
this guy carried those games so hard

>>713178148
>>He would have been found guilty if it wasn't self defense
That's what I said.
If it weren't for self-defense act, he'd just be pinned as a dude showing up at a riot with guns; easy to frame as a "he was out for blood" and "looking for trouble". The end.
But the faggots HAD to attack him while other people were filming, giving him a self-defense claim and proving him right.

>>713173191
MODS

>>713168649
>the judge, who would be characterized in later games as 'always arriving at the right verdict
I only played the earliest games but he comes across as a fool in those.

>>713177731
yeah I wouldn't mind a filler fourth case if 6-5 was split

>>713178798
I wrote in my original comment, but my schizo theory is that the DLC case was a TGAA reject/prototype. I don't have any evidence except it's low quality and steampunk aesthetic.

>>713170883
Tapdancing shoes?

>>713175515
>>713179274
If they hadn't attacked him no shots would have been fired and there wouldn't be a case in the first place.

>>713179757
Yeah, but in (I think) one of the AAI games while they're commenting on how fickle and gullible he is they add that he always manages to make the correct verdict.

>>713170609
>AA5 has way stronger cases,
No it does not. The only good case in AA5 is the DLC one.
>AA6 is easily the best mainline game post AA3.
I don't know. The whole Kur'ain plot feels like the series jumping the shark. While the second and fourth cases are really good, the finale is disappointing and the third case is outright terrible.

>>713179757
>>713182901
sounds like a joke at japanese legal system's expense

I just wanna say, I unironically like 4-3 and think it's a good case. The hate is overblown.

>>713164907
This was a fun moment but it wasn't fun enough to justify how stupid and unnecessary it was.

>>713172903
Why couldn't they depict her?

>>713175081
Play the games, it happens all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwmiRrMPT48

>>713183952
>a murder occurs
>a (supposedly blind) 10 year old is found unconscious on top of a large podium with a body that he would not have been physically capable of dragging up
>this is never something you can bring up as apollo until far too late into the case
>when you DO bring it up, its just the "well can you prove he WASNT there?"
>listen to the same song 5+ times
Its shit. I've heard it defended as "the case is retarded to show why Phoenix has to help add the juror system!", but I don't care. Its still dumb and retarded and goes far too long.

>>713184408
>listen to the same song 5+ times
If you can't find the contradiction in the video easily, then that is 100% a skill issue

>>713184623
You can find the contradiction easily and still be annoyed by having to listen to the whole song multiple times

>>713184623
Even if you find the contradiction on the first time every time, you're still forced to listen to it 5 times across all testimonies and cross examinations

>>713183523
>6-3 is terrible
What? It's a great case

>>713184317
PLEASURE PLEASURE

Patricia Roland's breakdown animation caught me completely offguard so I have to go with that

>>713185951
It's terrible.
>Maya the culprit for the umpteenth time in the series
>Have Maya and Ema, the assistants from the first game, in the same case but never have them interact or investigate with Phoenix
>Only one witness on first day of trial whose testimony is completely pointless because he just made it all up
>Maya found guilty on the first day even thought Nahyuta has literally no evidence or theory of how she did it
>Maya just lets this happen even though she could channel the dead victim at any time
>Nahyuta arguing that Maya must have had god powers in order to carry out the second murder
>The abbot's plan was not only completely retarded and unnecessary, I'm supposed to feel sympathy for him after he tries his hardest to get Maya executed
The only good part of that case was Inga.

The case was kinda shit, but Professor Means' breakdown was funny as hell

>>713169597
>>713169656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekegU25Ygfo

>>713171419
kek