Thread 713177771

>Off work yesterday
>Spent the whole day gaming
>Had Spoony's Final Fantasy reviews on in the background
>There was times I actually paused the gaming so I can watch the video and even laughed

Spoony's videos especially his FF reviews still hold up. Holy shit if he wasn't such a lazy fucking sperg he could've had the world. He's never making a comeback is he? Is the dream dead?

What is he even doing these days? Last I heard of him his gf April broke up with him and his dog he was larping as on Twitter died.

I MET YOU ON A THURSDAY

>Had other activities open in the background so you could play games
Gaming aint for you unless you were grinding only and it was getting stale and that is me being generous.
You didn't play the game.

>>713177771 (OP)
Spoony's movie vlogs were so great to leave on in another tab as you grinded in a video game. I could listen to him and his brother rip apart the Michael Bay Transformers movies all day. I honestly miss his movie vlogs more than any other of his content.
I did also his Final Fantasy reviews though. I was a bit disappointed that he stormed off and ended the stream when he tried FFXIV because, *gasp*, a fantasy MMO makes you kill weak wildlife at the beggining. The horror.

>>713179719
Not every game is a story game or a first time experience bro. Are you incapable of multitasking?

>>713177771 (OP)
>Spoony presents himself as some hardcore JRPG enthusiast
>Never played Final Fantasy IX
>Never played any Dragon Quest

Spoony was always a pleb.

>>713179719
>not having yt videos on as background noise when you game
laugh at this faggot

Is he dead yet? How can he survive with no having a job?

>>713177771 (OP)
>presumably 30+ year old man overstimulating himself multitasking in isolation
grim

>>713177771 (OP)
Spoony is genuinely funny. It's a shame he let mind demons ruins his career; he could've easily transitioned into a twitch streamer or something. Perhaps 2026 will mark the return of Spoony?

>>713177771 (OP)
Is that the fucking blizzard cosby suite

>>713177771 (OP)
You're not gaming if you have something else on your other screen
You're a soulless husk with fried dopamine receptors
I urge you to play some crpgs and fix your life

>>713181265
he's still alive. He rage quit Twitter and shitposts on Bluesky now. As far as I know he's still a NEET and has no gf

>>713179719
Literal autist?

>>713177771 (OP)
Broken by a woman and got BPD over it. I guess you don't know the lore but that's basically it. Did he get a job yet or is he living in his parents basement waiting for them to die so he can inherit the house?
>>713179842
This his vlogs where ahead of their time in that it was actually better if you had it on in the background. Now a tonne of people make content just for background listening.
>>713181265
I think he lives in his parents basement unironcally. He also gets some superchat money from co-hosting and obscure point and click adventure game series. That and he literally still makes a bit of money from patreon from hanger ons. Probably just about enough to pay for his drinking problem. I hope he gets his shit together but he is like 45 at this point.

>>713180127
FF9 has to be the most overrated FF game in existence. My God people treat it like it's the second coming of Christ. It's slow, boring and the only fucking characters that matter are Vivi, Zidane, Garnet and Kuja. X is light years better than IX

Guess which of the girls in this picture is which now:
>artist
>dicemaker
>published novelist, mother of two, SJW
>puppeteer for Sesame Street
>wrote the subtitles for the Tommy Tallarico video

>>713182248
>Published novelist

Bitch please. Her books sucks.

https://youtu.be/O3n2HZXvo6g?si=L5pQc9PcdeDxSk5T

>>713182362
All right? She’s still a published novelist.

>>713182947
Because of woke nepotism yeah.

Anyone can publish a book.

Didn't the black chick wanted to fuck Spoony but he was too much of an sperg to make a move and she ended up camwhoring for like a week until she got creeped out by all the autists harassing her?

No matter how shit your life is. At least you're not Spoony

>>713180127
Good Dragon Quest is shit

>>713181381
>overstimulating
>listening to audio in the background is overstimulation
You are pathetic.

>>713183106
I always wanted to fuck her so bad. She’s the reason I love black chicks

>>713183106
Based spoony isn't a degenerate nigger fucker like you subhuman

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vzkS5xYWMA0
WISH WE COULD TURN BACK TIME
TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS

>>713186492
What is Doug doing now? Aint watched a NC video in like 4 or 5 years

JUAN BUT NOT FORGOTTEN

>>713182248
The black chick started a camgirl career until some TGWTG autists found her.

>>713186371
She's hotter than most of the other girls Doug casting couch'd

>>713177771 (OP)
Spoony's FF reviews are fucking terrible. They're just your average ~2010
>LE JAPANESE GAMES SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK except for the few I grew up on :)
His good videos are his Phantasmagoria/Ripper lets plays, some early counter monkey stuff, and the earlier Ultima reviews. The ones of the later games suck and him screaming about "Whats a Paladin" for 50% of the review while applying more and more make up is genuinely cringeworthy.

>>713189160
I feel like Spoony was the last stand of 'Japanese gaming is CRINGE!" from delusional western nerds as that stuff became more and more popular in the 10's.

>>713177771 (OP)
One thing that sucks about watching them at the time they were coming out was the insane wait periods between them. And you never knew if it would actually be a good video or him bitching about some insane nitpick for 15-20 minutes.

>>713189281
I think it was an overreaction to the Japanese games industry having a harder time transitioning to HD graphics than Western studios. Because the Japanese games industry was having issues, people just opted to say all Japanese games suck (Nintendo sometimes included, sometimes not) and going back retroactively to just make up shit about, say, FF8 or FF10.
The great irony is that looking back to that era, it just kinda sucked for games in general. Both Eastern and Western games kind of sucked overall back then. Some gems obviously stuck out on both sides, but I'd say that was probably the worst era for gaming overall, other than like, the Atari 2600.

>>713189546
What issues? The 2000's were a golden age for Japanese devs.

The 'issues' essentially amounted to game journalists refusing to acknowledge Japanese games as being objectively better than their western counterparts.

The fact that Lara Croft or Crash Bandicoot were ever considered gaming icons should be embarrassing.

>>713189740
Tomb Raider was a groundbreaking game at the time though has not aged well due to it being one of the pioneers of 3D gaming.
Crash Bandicoot is pretty good. Him becoming an icon was just forced because everyone felt like they had to have a mascot to compete with Mario, but the games themselves were still good.

>>713189740
The issues are games like FF13 which was clearly rushed and limited in its scope due to being an HD game. FF13 was the thing that broke a lot of Western fans of Final Fantasy and basically made them all go "Ackshually FF always sucked!!!! (Except FF7 because I grew up with it!)"

>>713182094
I thought he moved in with Miles. It's painful too because it would be so easy for him to make a comeback. Yeah, he's 45, but so am I (almost). His fans are still around and have gotten as much older as he has. I was rewatching his Live Wire of The Quarry from 2023 the other day. He's still good fun even just playing a game casually and ribbing the story. If he started streaming weekly again, not even making scripted videos, I'd watch.

>>713177771 (OP)
>>Had Spoony's Final Fantasy reviews on in the background
Why are zoomers so fucked up that they can't do things without "background noise"?

>>713179878
>>713181132
>>713181967
You are all ADD-riddled zoomers.

His FF X review is legitimately the funniest video game review to ever be created. Every few months or so I go back to it and laugh like it's the first time watching it. Goddamn he should easily have over 1 million subs and making so much bank on Twitch. What could have been

>>713190904
absolute cope

>>713189857
>Groundbreaking game at the time.

Wrong. Mario 64 had far more intuitive controls and better designed environments.

Am I the only one browsing this thread while 3 podcasts play in the background?

>>713191223
>Mario 64 is better therefore Tomb Raider wasn't an important building block to the modern 3D game
Don't be a retard, anon. Yes, Mario 64 is a better game that has generally aged better as well but Tomb Raider is still pretty insane when you consider when it actually came out and what the game offered.

>>713180127
>>Spoony presents himself as some hardcore JRPG enthusiast
Mostly RPG's in general. I agree with him on that.

Anybody that can tolerate playing Ultima for more than ten minutes is a RPG enthusiast.

>>713190947
It is very funny, even if I find many of his criticisms rather shallow.

>>713191885
I am not gonna lie: I do not believe Spoony ever really played these games as a kid and likely used a guide to play them when he got older. I think he was just smart enough to realize a retrospective on the daddy of C/WRPGs would make be good content and its downfall would create easy drama and a storyline for it.
The only person I've known who played Ultimate is like 15 years older than Spoony.

>>713191957
As a review it is pretty fucking awful and is clearly just from the perspective of someone who doesn't like JRPGs. It is funny that in retrospect FFX is considered the last of the golden era and the swan song of the series with the best combat and most impressive visuals/CGI that the game has to offer with an absolutely stellar soundtrack.
It absolutely has problems, the game is no perfect, never was, never will be. But the good far outweighs the bad and FFX is an ambitious masterpiece compared to modern FF and most modern JRPGs in general. FFX felt like the last time Square actually fucking tried.

>>713191487
I'm watching ross scotts latest chat with fans vid

>>713192373
Ignore my retarded typos, I have a new keyboard and these fags fucked up some of the switches and I am waiting for them to arrive to replace them.

>>713192238
It's not about being a fan it's about that is all there is to play as a kid. I played the original marathon because my dad had a Mac and it came with it otherwise I never had any desire to play it. It was just there

>>713192373
I fucking love FFX and I thought Spoony's review was hilarious. It's okay to laugh at things you love

>>713192795
I didn't properly convey it in my post: I also think it is a funny video too. I was just adding onto that anon's post that it is a pretty shitty and shallow review, but as a vehicle for jokes it was good.

>>713180127
I'm a JRPG tourist and IX is the only FF I've gotten even remotely close to finishing.
Skipping it must surely be a sign of patrician taste that a midwitted /v/ poster wouldn't understand.

>>713177771 (OP)
>There was times
imbecile

>>713192238
>I do not believe Spoony ever really played these games as a kid and likely used a guide to play them when he got older
He played them with with his older brother. That, at least, I find fairly believable. He certainly didn't play them again for the actual reviews considering most of them don't feature any footage he himself took.

>The only person I've known who played Ultimate is like 15 years older than Spoony.
I tried playing Ultima and I would describe them as "Interesting conceptually" There are good ideas in there hidden underneath the jank and I don't think it's unfair to argue games like Ultima are the reason why we got stuff like Dragon Quest. However, I don't think that changes the fact the games are always ahead of their time in the worst way possible. Ultima 7 coming out around the same time as Final Fantasy 5 and Dragon Quest 5 is certainly revealing in how much they were on the absolute cutting edge, to be sure. But it also shows that when it comes to actually making games they were insanely backwards and had nothing even resembling design ethos. I mean, I would honestly say Ultima 3-5 had the best combat and that reeks of backhanded compliment I'll admit.

Ultima 9 gets a lot of shit, largely deserved, but at least on a technological level I can't help but find the game at least somewhat admirable. Granted, it was rushed to hell and it shows in how buggy it is, but when it comes to creating a true 3D world it's fairly stunning in what it managed to deliver compared to other games of the era. At the same time, from a design perspective, the thing looked and played humiliatingly poorly and the writing would have been on par with an mid Super Nintendo RPG. Especially considering PC gaming was really starting to find itself during the second half of the nineties.

Spoony won

Why are you guys still discussing this dude? Didn't he go mental and disappeared in like 2010? Genuine q

>>713193885
He was the best at what he did, by far. We still discuss him because we miss him dearly and wish he'd get better and come back.

I miss this era of nerd culture.
it was still niche enough where normalfags wouldn't touch it, so everyone you encountered generally cared for the hobby which led to deeper connections formed. Same with anime.

>>713192373
Agree. It certainly has it's flaws, and a lot of the story is VERY easy and fun to mock, but as a whole I think the game is really good. It's the last Final Fantasy game that feels in any way confident in actually being a RPG. You can tell the merger with Enix really did cause lasting damage.

>>713192795
It is a funny review. To a certain extent one of the strengths of the era is that most people back then had zero delusions about being genuine critics.

>>713177771 (OP)
Did you enjoy Corpus?

>>713193990
Has no one still not taking his spot yet

>>713190589
>Live streams
>5 minutes of silence followed by angrily going off on one chatter
No thanks

>>713194041
Same.

>>713194335
Nope. And no one ever will.

>>713193885
people on /v/ will bitch that games are nothing but remakes as they keep making threads about 10+ year old failed content creators

>>713194726
>>713194745
Oof

>>713194745
Spoony's downfall was largely the beginning of the end for a entire era of nerd culture. Yes, to most people it was some random nobody online being kicked off a shitty site. But for people who grew up with this era of nerd culture it was the moment when it all started. It's hard not to look back on him and wonder what could have been.

>>713193739
>IF I HAD INTERVIEWED NOTCH I WOULD STILL HAVE A PENIS RIGHT NOW

>>713183106
>and she ended up camwhoring for like a week
How was I not aware of this?

>>713183106
She could have saved him...

>>713177771 (OP)
>Spoony's videos especially his FF reviews still hold up.
He completely warped the west's impression of FF8 forever. And no matter whatever flaws the game has, FF8 does not and never did deserve that.
The game is a lot better than Spoony made it appear.

>>713194859
It's over. He gave up 10 years ago. Move on with your fucking life

>>713193739
>>713194896
No fucking way Lordkat trooned out.

>>713195060
Lmao! I laugh at you. You're BROWN! AHAHAH

>>713195165
yes way
https://youtu.be/jrKidCXwAuM

>>713181485
no you retard, the whole livestreaming thing was the final nail in his coffin. It's what turned his "long lost cool big brother" - image into an embarassing, whiny libtard bitch, as if his Twatter rants weren't bad enough back then. He was never made for livestreaming, he is way too emotional and aggressive for it.

>>713182165
We used to have attention spans zoom zoom.

>>713195317
HAHAHAHAHA/
Oh man, poor Lordkatt. The damages been done with decades of living male. He will never pass, he will never feel complete and this will gnaw at him for the rest of his life.

>>713195165
>>713195317
He started doing "the voice" too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2RW890LdB8

>>713183106
why did I never notice the size of her massive tits when I was watching her videos on TGWTG around 2011?

>>713195610
Sounds like you're gay bro. Sorry you had to find out this way

>Spoony reviews stuff for free for a decade+
>Finally starts getting paid 5k a month starting to do it
>Immediately self-destructs
BPD is a hell of a thing.

>>713183106
She lives in Japan now, Spoony could be living it up in Nippon right now with her, reviewing whatever he wants. Fuck, why am I so depressed for this guy?

>>713182165
>most overrated FF
it's just a handfull of hardcore fans. mostly everybody sees it as the mediocre middle child between 8 and 10

>>713177771 (OP)
i was randomly rewatching his Phantasmagoria 2 playthrough and it's pretty good. some dated references though. i don't think i've thought about Mind of Mencia in almost two decades but he brings it up a lot in that series for some reason.

I like the part in his Ultima IX review when "Tydus" shows up. Made me lol when I first saw it.
https://youtu.be/8yn0PXkaIsM?si=HQzhNHyyB6_VzA0H&t=1490

>>713177771 (OP)
His video game stuff always had the same problem as Yahtzee, if you've played the game it's clear he's a fucking idiot who'd struggle to beat Mario 1-1.

>>713195847
I like his dated references. Millennial and zoomer "content creators" all references like the same 5 shows over and over and it gets really tiring.

>>713177771 (OP)
so is he the boomer's Ssethtzeentach or something?

>>713193739
No FUCKING WAY he’s a tranny now? FUCKING WHAT. Spoony caused him to troon out kek

>>713196326
Spooney wishes. He was more of delusional, opinionated neet who hit the internet at the exact right time. His hottest take was a long ass series on how he thinks Final Fantasy 8 is "gay."

>>713195753
That's because money puts pressure on you. He has to produce content, while before he did it because it was fun and could back out if he wanted to.

>>713196618
Emo git hands typed this post

>>713196748
>Emo git
I dont speak zoomer, sorry.

>>713177771 (OP)
Ain't no way in H-E-Double Hockey Sticks Spoony is making a comeback at this point. The only "angry reviewers" left from the late 2000s are James Rolfe and Doug Walker and its painfully obvious both of them are going through the motions at this point James especially. As for the other "angry reviewers", they've either moved onto

>>713196651
it was not just the money, it was that retarded joke goal of the Spoony Movie. He could have just said that the movie thing was just a joke and maybe refunded a few donaters. But instead he went full retard and actually thought about doing it, then his already damaged brain went batshit schizo and that's where everything went downhill.

>>713196832
>they've either moved onto---
Damn, dark anon came to interrupt anon's review

>>713196832
trying to become "video essayists", are still making a fool of themselves i.e Angry Joe and Linkara, or in Spoony's case, have more or less fucked off from the internet altogether.

>>713187218
He’s still doing the Nostalgia Critic to this day, although it’s not as elaborate as it used to be. Between Tamara leaving (on good terms, was just time for her to move on), their studio being a piece of shit, and Doug being old and having health issues they can’t do anything elaborate anymore. He’s basically reverted to a more YouTube-friendly version of his original format. Sit in front of a white wall, recap a movie, make some shitty jokes, and occasionally do a short sketch to throw your remaining actors a bone. It’s not bad, we’ll never get anything as embarrassing as The Wall again, but it’s clearly something he stopped caring about a long time ago.

>>713196880
still wild to me he not only filmed the drinking stream but thought it was a good idea to upload it as well

>>713183106
>7/10 black chick with huge tits wants your autistic dick
>Pussies out and fucks a 2/10 land whale and get your heart broken when she dumps your autistic ass causing you to spiral
>Dates a 4/10 after that and she leaves your NEET ass causing you to spiral again
>Could be in Japan living it up with 7/10 big titty black gf but blew it
Yet another thing Spoony pissed away

>>713197010
The Breaking Dawn one? Kino.

>>713183106
I've had a black hooker with that body type multiple times. Spoony really fucked up.

this is the year bros

>>713196078
>If you've played the game, its clear he's a fucking idiot
THIS. And I'm not just talking about Spoony's infamous FFX review to be clear, unlike with his contemporaries who either went after objectively bad media or at the very least, heavily flawed media, Spoony was the DarkSydePhil of his community looking back and much like him or Arin Hanson when it comes to 3D Zelda games, it could NEVER be HIS fault he sucks ass at the video game he's "reviewing", oh no, somehow, its the fault of the game designers, somehow its because the game is "poorly designed" or some stupid non-criticism like that. Looking back on Spoony as an adult, I honestly can't believe teenage me clinged onto every word he said back then or really, any "angry" reviewer from back in the day who in hindsight clearly don't know what the fuck they were talking about. https://youtu.be/vgG5QqZUzjY

>>713197623
Not enough gray hair.

>>713197010
>jewwario and linkara off camera just not knowing what to do

>>713197806
I think his character was just his worst real qualities exaggerated. He lost himself to his own gimmick.

Did anybody associated with That Guy With The Glasses have a good ending? Feel like everyone either sperged out, became a tranny, fell into obscurity or became a hideous creature

>>713190904
playing minecraft for example requires externsl stimuli

>>713197806
The Fallout 2 tutorial IS poorly designed trash thoughsoever

>>713198550
>thoughsoever
That ain't a word.

>>713197806
Spoony was very charismatic and gave off the big brother vibe. I know this because I have an older brother that was already an IT guy in the early 90s. He had a whole wall of boxed software and multiple computers that we could play Doom, C&C etc. together. Spoony gave off that vibe.

>>713198550
>Fallout 2 tutorial is garbage
I mean, even the devs admitted they were forced to throw it in at the last minute, I'm not going to argue that and yeah, it is especially kind of bullshit if you don't make a Melee Weapons/Unarmed build or at least have either as one of your tagged skills, but the point still stands that Spoony was and still is the DarkSydePhil of "angry reviewers" in a lot of ways.

>>713198701
Perchance.

>>713198994
>Int 7
>Charisma 10
>Down-syndrome face or whatever
retarded deviantshart "artist"

>>713198093
Brad Jones is still putting out content. I only rewatch the Cinema Snob episodes up until he moves into the new house, but there are some modern episodes like the christploitation movies that I enjoy. He always seemed the most normal of the TGWTG bunch which is probably why he avoided doing as many crossovers/promotions for the site as the other reviewers did.

>>713198718
>SPOONY IS MY VIRTUAL BIG BROTHER
Get a grip dude holy shit

>>713199485
it was a comparison you nigger

>>713199570
I know jk

i never watched them but i put on the ff8 one and i enjoy it quite a bit. but its also because i tried the game for the first time recently and got bored and annoyed fast

>>713198994
>it is especially kind of bullshit if you don't make a Melee Weapons/Unarmed build or at least have either as one of your tagged skills
Don't do that. Just punch ever mob once and use the rest of your AP to run away

>>713198093
MarzGurl’s doing well.

>>713197842
it was a cell phone group call IIRC

>>713199268
>Down-syndrome face or whatever
Anon, realistically speaking, this is likely what the tribal women of Arroyo in Fallout 2 would look like. Your mind has been poisoned by gooner drawings.

>>713190904
Ive played tetris while watching tv or listening to music since the mid 90s. It enhances my ability, doesnt diminish it.

>>713199000
>Perchance
IS a word. Great job.

>>713177771 (OP)
83.3% of those people have dicks.

>>713195060
Fuck off retarded zoomer. I bought FF8 the day it released on ps. It was the video game equivalent of The Phantom Menace. Fuck you and your imaginary YouTube boogeyman

>>713201575
i also can remember a lot of discourse over FF8 being the worst one in the series even before youtube internet criticism really took off. everyone hated the leveling and junction systems. it was just FFII for the early 3D era.

>>713201575
>I bought FF8 the day it released on ps.
I did too. And it was also a favourite on gamefaqs and was beloved on newgrounds and other places as well.
It wasn't until much later with the onset of the likes of spoony that contrarians like you 180d on the game.

>>713200236
Last I heard she was running scam gofundmes.
Has she had some uptick?

>>713196880
What was worse was the video he made where he said
>Im gonna have to take years off to get this done
As if he was ever busy with anything but twitter fights.

>>713202127
its really just mediocre and tedious. i wouldnt call it outright bad

>>713201575
Is wrong
>>713202127
Is correct

>>713201575
A lot of people like Phantom Menace and aren't afraid to say it now.

>>713202424
stop replying to yourself faggot

>>713202517
because later on down the lines much worse movies (the sequels) came out. same with FF8 because everything after FFX has been a disaster. if they kept the same quality level up of course people would still shit on FF8, but the problems with its story pale in comparison to shit like FFXII having no relatable characters and no story worth getting invested in because it's all about esoteric political drama that none of the main characters (Vaan and Penelo) have any actual link to.

>>713183084
Why don't you do it then and make a gorillion dollars if its so easy

>>713192238
This is 100% likely when you watch him flail around and be retarded in even simpler games

>>713196809
Neither of those words are zoomer terms retard, Emo is probably older than you

>>713196832
This comment can't hold a Candle to mine, Jack

>>713202517
People also like eating shit, we don't call them brave or heroes we call them Germans, whats your fucking point

>>713203605
give it time, shiteating will be seen as a personable trait the way being gay or crossdressing is. it'll be brave and stunning to eat shit. in fact we're going to make your children eat shit so they can see how brave and stunning it is too.

>>713177771 (OP)
Everyone in that image is a man now

2025, is the layout finally right, Spoongoons?

Now that the dust has settled, Lindsay Ellis DEFINITELY aborted Spoony's baby right?

>>713196326
No, not really. Spoony is just a guy who had a bit of natural charisma, comedic timing, and was into nerdy shit and had the technical knowhow to actually put videos online before it was as easy as buying a phone.
Seth is more of a channer memelord who got popular reviewing weird chinese games.

I remember being really into CA content and getting upset at read dead horse interexchange just shitting all over kickassia. good times

>>713203926
half the fun of the Seth videos is also when he does broken shit and completely abuses the game's mechanics, but Spoony is too bad at video games to do that

>>713203909
In kayfabe? Yes. Shoot? No, you fucking retard.

>>713182165
It's a cozy game, they treated like a masterpiece but its not, its the perfect generic final fantasy that is about friends joining and defeating le evils, thats why i always like to return to it, it has generic messages of friendship being brave, but i like it, its like a comfy movie of fantasy, but they certainly hyped it in the internet culture of vidya games

>>713201575
FF8 had its critics, but so did FF7. The game was beloved upon release for the most part. In retrospect the game became more divisive because the leveling system is bad, but the story is probably the best out of the golden era FF games. Squall is the strongest protagonist with the clearest character arc. The world design is top notch. However, while the story is the strongest, it does have problems near the end and gets confused. There are some unresolved plot threads.
It feels like the most ambitious FF game and you can tell they bit off more than they could chew because FF9 and FF10 were a little more toned down for better and worse. I love FF8 but will always admit the big issues it has while simultaneously singing its praises. It is genuinely a mixed bag, not in that it is mediocre, in that it has amazing and bad elements.
There is also the issue that the translation of FF8 is a mixed bad and no one is willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. Meanwhile FF7 fans will deflect all criticism on its translation, which is also not that great.

But Spoony was just a JAPANESE GAME BAD guy for the longest time. If it was not a game he played as a kid, and it was Japanese, he went in wanting to hate it because hating on Japanese stuff was cool at the time. Nearly every creator went through that period and it is rightfully considered outdated and cringy because it is. FF8, 9, and 10 are better than 95% of western games AND japanese games. Despite their flaws at least they are fucking ambitious. I'll take an ambitious mess over the West cranking out mediocre mascot platformers or terrible brown and bloom call of duty/gears clones.

>>713204461
crazy how you have guys like razorfist who are still doing it, and even crazier they have an audience

>>713195165
>FELCIA TELL US ABOUT THE PENIS SITUATION

>>713182165
>>713204407
FF9 is good, but it stands out the least to me from the 6-10 golden era. I still like it a lot though. It doesn't feel like it has that signature style or voice that I associate with the other games. It is much more generic fantasy, which is likable in its own way, but compared to the others it is less compelling. Vivi is genuinely one of my favorite Final Fantasy characters though.

>>713204649
It is less compelling because of that reason
>>713204461
Damn dude, too much truth
That is one of the things that i've seen grown over the last decade, usually they want to land on a safe spot, so that ambition that you are talking about has been becoming rare worldwide, even in japanese markets

>>713204649
it's pretty standard fantasy for the series. games like VI, VII and VIII were the outliers back then. there was always a straight fantasy world but then you find out there's some kind of crazy sci-fi thing. FFI was the same.

>>713177771 (OP)
nerd girls are gross

>>713205050
>there was always a straight fantasy world but then you find out there's some kind of crazy sci-fi thing. FFI was the same.
And so was Ultima 1

>>713204461
How many sequels / remakes / side stories feature the cast of FF8? How many feature the cast of FF7?

>>713205724
>FF7 is more popular therefore it is better
I hate to break it to you buddy, but they made A LOT of Earnest movies...

>>713205796
It’s spelled Ernest moron & Ernest Scared Stuipd slaps

>>713206472
Yeah I misspelled it, and I really like Ernest Scared Stupid, it is one of my favorite halloween films.
Doesn't mean they also didn't make Ernest Goes to Africa

>>713204461
“The Phantom Menace was beloved upon release. I’m just going to claim that as a fact when there is actual evidence posted on the internet that anyone can easily find disproving this statement. Even South Park had a whole episode dedicated to bashing it.

Maybe a handful of people didn’t like something about the movie but a majority of people loved it. It wasnt until a fat alcoholic Star Trek fan from the Midwest made a YouTube video with his 2 loser buddies bashing The Phantom Menace that the WHOLE WORLD decided to hate the film.”
- You

>>713207089
Fuck you, retard. Phantom Menace sucked and will always suck. Instead of addressing my points you made up a strawman because you're a retard.