>>713188394 (OP)
>literally screenshotting reddit

>when your gaming mouse weigh 150 gramms

That's like the mouse equivalent of that one Baki meme

>>713188394 (OP)
I've been using a Zowie wired mouse for like 9 years and it's still works great

>>713189890
human nugget?

>>713189632
based

>>713188394 (OP)
here's mine

>>713189890

>>713189890
The shape is such an exact match too, it's perfect.

>>713190669
kek

not videogames faggot, take this shit to >>>/g/

That subreddit is so fucking gay, made me stop giving a shit about mice.

>>713188394 (OP)
I just want a mouse that keeps working properly for at least five years, no spontaneous double clicking or scroll wheel going crazy.

>>713188394 (OP)
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-930763-0403-MX500-Optical-Mouse/dp/B00006HZ0K

I've had this fucker for 20 years, can't believe they're trying to sell it for 200 bux these days

>>713190929
Then stop buying 'gaming' mice.

>>713190929
Logitech M100. Unlike their shitty gamer mice which go shit all the time their office mice are pretty much indestructible.

>>713190769
Janny applications aren’t open at the moment, lil bro. They aren’t going to pick you.

>>713189939
i use an XL size FK1 and it's the best mouse i've ever owned
but the wheel is really shitty now and they aren't selling replacements

The 502 hero works for me, but I'm not going with logitech next time.

>>713191037
That's probably the last new one in existence. I was sure that link was going to be a third party used one. I had mine for maybe a decade before it started to mess up.

>>713191037
I have an MX310 from like 2005 that lost half of the paint but still works

do people actually use anything other than logitech mx?

take the vertical pill

I switched to an ergo mouse a couple years ago and will never go back to traditional mice again

>>713191037
I'm using a G400 myself for about 15 years, they're all great.

>vertical mouse
anyone here good at FPS games actually use these? how are they?

>>713191037
I wish mine of >10 years never broke. The updated model has a weird finish to it and it’s completely inferior.

>>713191987
where is the nutty putty guy

>>713192479
>>713191037
Wild hearing a Logitech mouse last so long with how shit they are today.
I have a collection of Logitech mice that failed(3 G700 and a G502), since I kept using the 3 year warranty they came with to get a free replacement when they started double clicking.
The last 502 was the one that finally outlasted its warranty, and started double clicking like 3 months after the warranty expired.

>>713191987
>>713192160
I can't be arsed to learn a new grip, but also I am convinced that the people who get carpal tunnel due to their mouse grip are 60 IQ nigerians. I cup my hand around the mouse instead of holding it straight like all the photo examples of carpal tunnel- if I try to grip that way it is immediately uncomfortable for my wrist. why'd anyone just power through that?

it's like the streetshitter propaganda against real toilets, all the "professors" and experts and wikihow artists that think you sit straight and use the toilet tank as a fucking backrest instead of being a normal person and lean forward, elbows on knees or something.

>>713192479
>>713192718
>>713193121
I bought one in 2002 when it was brand new, it lasted for 3-4 years, I don't remember what the problem was. mx520 was the new version I think and I bought that but I hated it, it didn't have the same shape or size so I got another 500 and it has lasted until now and I expect it to last at least forever.

>>713192718
repair it using the good parts from the new model

>>713195672
I could maybe even case swap. Somehow haven’t considered that. Thanks anon.

>>713188394 (OP)
Any reliable vertical mice? I have a Zelotes T-20. It fits perfectly, but the click switches are malfunctioning.

i've realised obsessing with weight autism is kinda irrelevant below 100g
at that point the vast majority of the force is just going into moving your arm and the mouse does jack shit

>>713196316
keychron released m5 recently
it's the only one with the bleeding edge 3950 sensor but good fucking luck finding stock

>21x11 hands
>mx518 was the lest shit mouse I ever used comfort wise
>stopped buying since double click fuckery
>every razer mouse feels good in one way but worse in others
the only shape I have not really tried yet is a areally high hump like a zowie ZA11 but they are hard to buy here in chinada

This baby works just fine

I hate logifucks for not refreshing G700s. Comfiest mouse I've ever had.
>>713197142
I've had a freebie mx518 that came with my laptop and it worked great and still does, thought DPI buttons are kinda sticky. Guess I'd lucked out.

>>713190649
>POV
is the bowling ball taking revenge on the bowler?

>>713190649
>too stupid for pov
femanon...

>>713192160
>they drew evil red arrows on the natural pose and good green arrows on the weird one
>checkmate humans
It's funny because it works.

>>713190591
>pic
dude that looks just like that one shitty ball mouse from Homestuck that's glued to the table

>>713199615
no one walks around with their hands in the mouse position

I have the logitech hero g502 and it's been great for 2 years but now the big side button is double clicking
any way to fix it?

Is this a real thing where people want weightless mice? I genuinely hate when I cant feel weight in mine.

I loved my Zowie back when i played CS competitively, big, weighty, meaty. No idea why zoomers prefer lightweight mouses, i guess 150 grams is too heavy for their fragile wrists o algo it's corpo slop and they eat it like the cattle they are

>>713188394 (OP)
y'know I've been curious about a mouse with this design for a while. I use a fingertip grip, so this might actually work. The concern is I have big-ish hands so my thumb rests about 2/3rds down the side of the mouse. Also I wonder what the balance of the weight is on something like this.
30g is crazy

>>713200191
Nobody is impressed you can bicep curl 150g anon.

>>713190669
lel

>>713200260
>Nobody is impresse...

>>713200452
>bad shape
>bad sensor
>bad scrollwheel
>bad skates
>double clicking
trash mouse used by cattle who read PC Gamer 15 yeards ago and took their advice as gospel

>>713190591
Do they make vertical trackballs?

>>713197532
trackball chads are too powerful, I could never

>>713200009
>Is this a real thing where people want weightless mice?
anon, most zoomies grew up with primarily touch interfaces. It makes sense that they'd prefer less weight with their mouse if they've been basically using a weightless mouse their entire lives

let me guess, you "need" more

OP1 8K is my current mouse. I've been a big wireless mouse fan for 5-8 years, but this one was worth going back to the cord. Only issue is the wire (lol) and there's an issue with one of the side buttons where it double-clicks randomly. The latter was probably due to me replacing the base of the mouse and fucking up something.

>>713200638
You don't really mean it and you know it

>>713200452
the original G-Pro wired is still the best, sadly is plagued with shitty sensors that causes double clicking after a while unless you bent the springs again

My vxe r1 pro max just came today and it's pretty good for 50 bucks. I didn't expect how light it was coming from the hero

>>713199615
Yeah, the pic is bullshit, but iirc the actual reason for those mice is not the position of the wrist itself but the movement, that instead of moving the hand side to side you kind of move it up and down (again, kind of, the best peripheals for that sort of wrist problems are some kind of mouse with a "rigid joystick" hande that isn't even produced any more

>>713202369
There is no reason to use a mouse that has since been superceded. No compfags are using that mouse, its trash by todays standards.

>>713202332
Based

I'm starting to think 5 buttons aren't enough.

>>713188394 (OP)
How do you guys actually hold and move your mouse when aiming in FPS games? I find myself always extending my arm too far out when I'm sweeping a wide room then I have to make odd angles in my wrist to aim

>>713189632
me for the past 10~ years
switched to 40g for a few days and there's no going back

picrel is the only mouse youll ever need.
unless you play mmo's, then see >>713204617
no fucking idea what they were thinking discontinuing the g600

>>713201753
didnt think i would feel old when thinking about mice

>>713204696
mmos are dead and razer likely had the market cornered with their swifty promos

there's even the light weight one now, Naga X 80g, which I'm getting next
almost identical shape to g600

>>713205081
nothing else compares because the G600 has a modifier click

I need a new symmetrical wired mouse with side buttons (on both sides), where the fuck do I buy one???

>>713188394 (OP)
you guys are gonna end up with tendinitis with this retarded ass meme mice, just get an ergonomic mouse.
>its slows me down
who cares, you only have one hand.

>>713205130
I never used the modifier
I just didn't need it
12+ on the mouse
+
12345
qerfzxcvgtb + shift

>>713205605
i'd keep my buffs, food, pots, shit like that on the mouse modifier + side buttons
not like i didn't have enough buttons though it's just the only mmo mouse i've ever really used so i'm used to having it, and the mouse itself feels great
i've tried a few others for a couple days at a time and always missed the g600

>>713201289
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D7Q37FD1

Haven't use it but i have the companies regular vertical mouse and also their ergomic keyboard and its pretty good quality.

>>713204368
You're meant to the majority of the movement at the elbow unless you have an RSI fetish.

>>713201753
>>713205000
It's a simple concept, lighter offers more control. Nobody at high levels of play is advocating using heavy mice unless they are disabled and have motor skills issues like parkinsons that means their hands shake.
If I throw a ball towards you and you have bricks attached to your hands, you'll react faster and more accurate without.

>>713205758
well mine's busted (entire scroll wheel + double clicking) plus I just don't wanna deal with the weight anymore
maybe we get companies back in the market when league mmo drops

back on the topic

>>713188394 (OP)
NEVER buy this dogshit
the button position is absolutely FUCKED
(123 are completely out of reach unless you have giant hands or stretch fingers like a retard every time you wanna press)

>>713206541
Steelseries haven't had a good mouse since the sensei anon.

>>713206541
mines fine but the cord is in really bad shape in a couple spots so i know it's days are numbered, that's why i tried some other ones out but ended up returning them
though i haven't played mmo's in a couple years so i don't really care anymore

>>713201967
>wireless
zoomer moment

>>713206929
retard. Lightspeed made wired obsolete

>>713205818
Yeah, that one looks nice. Thanks, anon.

>>713207061
sure buddy. anyway enjoy charging your mouse every 8 hours kek

>>713207280
1 AA lasts my G305 around 3 months of heavy use. keep coping if you'd like

>>713207280
>finish using pc
>plug in cable
AIIIIIEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN

>>713201967
>wireless
>branded mouse pad

i need less

>>713191037
I still have that but at some point switched to a g300s

I like this one :3c

>>713201967
Since you get cheap 7$ puks to charge Logitech via Qi I'll never go back to wired.
My Superlight Lightspeed 2 arrives tomorrow. I hope it lasts.

>>713204696
Im using the g600 and Ive got a spare g600 in the box next to me

>>713207280
My modded G703 lasts a month with RGB disabled and only needs 1 night on my wireless charging station. Unmodded it's a week to 10 days.

>>713191037
I've got one in the closet, but the black parts have become sticky with age.
Shame really, cause it's a great mouse

>>713207061
the best wired mouse has a 0.6ms response time
the best wireless mouse has a 0.9ms response time
the difference is basically fucking irrelevant
also you're not dragging a fucking cable around

>>713208451
meant to reply to>>713206929

>>713199827
You're a fucking retard.

Had this one for like three years and I love that you can adjust the position of the side buttons to your liking. Only shame is the known issue about the scroll wheel being ass and the encoder eventually throwing in the towel if you click it a lot, which I do. Managed to get it working again by disassembling it and putting it back together, but I'll eventually have to look for an alternative.
Even if I don't play them anymore, I'll definitively stick to an mmo mouse for the convenience.

>>713191037
i have a mx300, mx500, and mx310 and none of them skip when you increase their polling rate and i use 50cm/360. literally doesn't aim any differently than my op18k at 4000hz other being slightly heavier. it's amazing how little anything has changed other than wireless not being total shit

>>713188394 (OP)
is there any mouse on the market that doesn't start having sensor problems after a couple months of use?
every mouse I've ever used has had problems with the scroll wheel and unintentional doubleclicks

>>713206827
Haven't played any myself in about 2 years
gonna play ascension CoA and tauri legion tho, so I'll need to buy the naga x soon

>>713208541
no u
vertical mice put your hands in a neutral position
get up and walk around and see how long you can manage holding your hands pronated like that

>>713200452
pic is missing the g400s which I had for 11 years before getting the mx518 HERO

You haven't even begun to autism! The Swiftpoint Z2 vs The Zaunkoenig M3K is pretty much the epitome of the
>Masters of two different fight styles collide, then become bros with respect for each other.
meme.

You need to go
>Ploopy
?

>>713192707
i have 5k hours in tf2 and i prefer my logi lift over my past deathadder and g502 even despite its shit sensor and polling rate
i'm desperately holding out waiting for a ping for a keychron m5 restock and i even bookmarked it

>>713188394 (OP)
>it's definitely my equipment that's the problem, I don't need to improve, I suck at games because my mouse is too heavy!!

>I have become death, destroyer of worlds

>>713210669
getting good shit is an eye opener to your own flaws and puts you on the road to fixing them
you make much more progress on a 240hz oled than a shitty old 60hz office tin can because you see your own movements better
a mouse is a representation of your hand, are you using a fucking ball mouse?

>>713211115
Comparing a ball mouse to a real mouse is definitely the same as nickel and dimeing your mouse weight to the very gram, you sure showed me!

>>713191987
>>713192160
After 20+ years of frequent computer use, my arm is used to being twisted all the time.

>>713212686
after 15 years of only using normal mice and 1 year of a vertical one i can't ever go back

>>713191987
the saddam hussein meme always gets me

Was at Best buy and played around with a few of the Ultra lightweight mice. Do limp wrist faggots really need them to be so lightweight?

For me, it's the Microsoft Intellimouse explorer 3.0

>it just works

>>713214892
>125hz
>Shitty rubber body guarantees this will be ewaste
>Garbage thin mouse feet
I want to like it but it's a bad mouse. Maybe an MX Master 4 could fix it.

>>713207280
The mousepad charges the mouse, retard

>>713215020
But it spins real nice man, satisfying to use

If your DPI is less than 3200 you're a retard.

>>713216169
not every game is in source engine where you can adjust your sensitivity down to the fucking planck length
some just have a scale of arbitrary numbers where even the lowest setting will fuck you over and be way too sensitive and it's annoying to keep switching

>>713216169
>3200 dpi
that sounds unusable desu, I'm running 1200 dpi and I still have to set my dpi even lower for a lot of older games that don't let me set the ingame sens low enough

let me guess, you need more?

>>713216398
in an ideal world there'd just be some global setting called 3d sensitivity that just sets the rotation speed for every single fucking game and you could run your mouse at its maximum dpi to take advantage of the fucking tech instead of having to measure that shit out

>>713216169
I have carpal tunnel and often have to use a wrist brace during intensive mouse use so I have my DPI set at like 3500 so it is easy to make movements while barely moving my wrist. Anyone who I let try my computer is like "holy fuck your mouse is sensitive"

>>713208560
I had this for years as well what killed it for me was totally unrelated to the mouse but the software it uses. Icue has a memory leak that kicks in every other patch and it takes them months to fix it. It's also the heaviest mouse I've ever used but man did it survive taking some serious damage.

>>713216348
>>713216398
use rawaccel nigga
>>713216898
i just mean for lower latency

>>713217089
>mouse acceleration
fucking disgusting

>>713217195
i mean for custom sensitivity values on games that have shit sensitivity options. you can have a flat accel but change the sens that way.
but also, proper mouse accel is good

Bought a Mchose L7 the other day, haven't touched it yet. What am I in for?

>>713217494
you're gonna be able to move the little white curser on your screen around with it