>These are the people that are insistent that Denuvo is worth it forever

Denuvo doesn't cost them much.

>as per contract, the games will always sell well, as long it's made by the team named sonic team

>>713214580 (OP)
Looks fine to me

Grim

What about platform split?

>>713214732
Why is Sega the only company that keeps paying Denuvo after a year? If it was good business, the other companies would do it too.

>Sega says Sonic Superstars underperformed
>2,430,000 copies sold
The fuck were they expecting?

>>713214896
You probably have to keep paying to denuvo to keep the protection going.
Now if it actually increase sales or not at a point it is worth paying the denuvo service, that's the actual thing up to debate

>Units sold
Meme metrics cause of discounts and bundles
Dollar sales is what matters

>>713214896
Probably because some Japanese boomer running the company is afraid of piracy. Denuvo may have given them a killer pitch too.

>Atlus keeping Sega afloat
Kek

>>713214580 (OP)
I guess it's obvious why they give up on Three Kingdom due to it diminishing return. It's probably due to how weird and shitty CA were at handling the DLC for that game.

>>713214896
the only companies that use denuvo are the ones that still think piracy=lost sales.

>>713214580 (OP)
How do Sonic games sell that much

>>713214896
They got in on Denuvo early on and likely are grandfathered into a lifetime plan. There's no way they're still paying for denuvo on Sonic fucking Forces of all things 7 years later. Or paying to keep it in just the Steam version of Like a Dragon but not the GoG version.
Also Konami stopped using denuvo in their recent games yet Phantom Pain still has it 10 years later.

does anyone have any estimates on gamepass? is it like 25% of sales usually?

>>713214976
>The fuck were they expecting?
You and others are misremembering and misquoting them. They said it was a disappointment compared to Sonic Frontier. The barometer was Frontier as a baseline of how sonic should sell which is dumb in itself since the two are radically different games

>>713215094
No one takes Mat or his data seriously in the industry nor video game companies use his services. That goes for the same for that arab faggot larping as a chink called Zhuge or that white guy called Toto. When are you all going to realize twitter “analysts” are just trying to sell their services

>>713214580 (OP)
>TWWH 3
>2.3mil copies
kinda sad desu, if they'd been able to keep up the DLC pace of WH2 it'd probably be doing way better.
Maybe the Sofia team will be able to fix it up since they seem to be cleaning up the spaghetti code given the last patch shrank the games file size by 27%

>>713215347
>No one takes Mat or his data seriously in the industry nor video game companies use his services
You're insane. Sony and Microsoft don't pay for his services and hand him data if they think his data is worthless. Get your head out your ass.

>>713215406
Makes sense desu. You're essentially buying the same game three times. It's a hard sell to anyone who doesn't suck down any old shit with GW's stamp on it. I only got TWW1 and never bothered with 2 or 3.

>>713215559
nah they changed it so in WH3, while you do still need to own the older games to get their base races you still get the full world map as a base

So was the the Yakuza 8 guy in famistu threads right?

>>713215548
>You're insane. Sony and Microsoft don't pay for his services and hand him data if they think his data is worthless. Get your head out your ass.
>t. Matt
Your company is owned by another company (Nielsen) that is obsessed with selling data and buying data. No one considers your data valuable and you keep shilling your tweets here. No one gives a fuck

>>713215335
Denuvo used to be a flat sum for lifetime protection, its only the last year or two they have changed it to subscription based.

>>713215094
>The amount of games actually being played doesn't matter
>The amount of money jews make is what matters
Your nose is showing

>>713214896
Maybe sega is doing really well financially and would rather spend a little extra as a fuck you to pirates

>>713215330
Children (ie.the actual target audience) like it. Parents buy it for them.

>>713214580 (OP)
source? citation? link?

this literally looks like a fake excel pdf

OP is fake. Thread closed.

>>713215646
That's still a bad deal.

>>713214896
>the only company
Pretty sure everyone except squeenix use it

>>713215767
Yes, I'm sure the investors care about the number of units sold over how much they are making off those units sold.

>>713215657
>Deflection
Sony and Microsoft don't pay Mat and hand him their data if they think his data is worthless. You can't counter this. So go ahead and deflect again.

Yakuza 8 sold a lot less than I expected.

>>713216287
Are you an investor?

>>713216113
>>713216143
https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/sega-leaked-6-years-of-sales-numbers-for-sonic-persona-smt-like-a-dragon-and-total-war.3829/

>>713216229
Read that post better, anon. More carefully.

>>713214976
Square Enix sells 5 million copies and still say games underperform, the suits are just retarded.

>>713216345
Anon, the whole point of steamchartsfaggotry and anything adjacent to it is to talk about which games are more successful. That's what determines if we get sequels, how well a company is doing, etc. For those purposes, what the investors care about matters way more than the amount of players.

>>713216395
Already did Even did a research of it.. Most of Japs company still persistently uses Denuvo.

>>713216309
>Sony and Microsoft don't pay Mat and hand him their data if they think his data is worthless. You can't counter this. So go ahead and deflect again.
Nielsen is in the data business of buying data from other companies and selling it to those who think it’s useful, and your business was acquired for said reason to outcompete players like Ipsos and the like. If no players in the gaming industry are buying this data, what does that tell you about the reliability and usability of said data? It’s worthless and the proof is in the pudding, no other company in the industry buys said data for their own FP&A and competitor analysis. You gotta be a sorry piece of shit to be shilling on here Mat, and no this isn’t a deflection. Your company does not provide any value but to exacerbate illiterate and uneducated users on this site to suck off your proverbial and metaphorical “expertise.” If you’re providing such value to the industry, why do you continue to post on Twitter to advertise your services? Why is it that you, Zhuge, and Serkan retweet each other like a metaphorical circle jerk? I’d like to see the mental gymnastics you’ll make in response to this post.

And in the off case you aren’t Mat, which you probably are, you are twice as pathetic for defending his literal adverts which are disguised as tweets.

>>713216395
According to Sega's own document
Sonic x Shadow generations sold 2.3 million units and Metaphor sold 2 million units as well. It's on page 20.

>>713215676
I guess we'll see in a year if Shadow Generations keeps it but I have a feeling SEGA wants to take this shit to their grave

>>713214580 (OP)
>Frontiers that high
Sonic fags have no standards no wonder the franchise is so shit

>>713217130
This nigga is really trying to tell me that Nielsen ratings are worthless too. You're delusional.

>>713214580 (OP)
>Persona
People really love that goofy ass anime shit, huh? I tried Metaphor and I just couldn't get past the repugnant art style, androgynous character designs and ball achingly dull "gameplay". I got to the obligatory zesty black man and called it. 0/10 certified kusoge.

>>713214580 (OP)
>Persona
>Sonic
>Sonic
Autists really need to die.

>>713216828
Alright, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you read my post correctly after I prompted you to read it carefully, so you'd know I'm saying that no other Japanese companies keep paying Denuvo to keep Denuvo in their games even a year after launch.

With that in mind, you still seem to be denying my statement, so now is the part where I prove you wrong:

>Triangle Strategy
Lost Denuvo 6 months ater
>Star Ocean: The Divine Force
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Valkyrie Elysium
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Forspoken
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Octopath Traveler 2
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Mega Man Battle Network Legacy collection Vol 1
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Live A Live
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Dragon Quest Treasures
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Star Ocean The Second Story R
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney Trilogy
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Monster Hunter Stories
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Visions of Mana
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Ace Attorney Investigations Collection
Lost Denuvo 3 months later
>Final Fantasy XVI
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Romancing SaGa 2 - Revenge of the Seven
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>Slitterhead
Lost Denuvo 6 months later
>FANTASIAN Neo Dimension
Lost Denuvo 5 months later

Now, let's look at the oldest Japanese games that still have Denuvo
>eFootball Pro Evolution Soccer 2020
Released in September 2019. Konami.
>Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne HD Remaster
Released in May 2021. Sega.
>Sonic Colors Ultimate
Released in September 2021. Sega.
>Demon Slayer
Released in October 2021. Sega.
>Persona 4 Arena Ultimax
Released in March 2022. Sega.
>Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Mega Mix
Released in May 2022. Sega.
>Sonic Origins
Released in June 2022. Sega.
>Soul Hackers 2
Released in August 2022. Sega.
>Lost Judgment
Released in September 2022. Sega.
>Persona 5 Royal
Released in October 2022. Sega.
Need I go on?

>>713217802
Go on.

OP here. I made it up.

>>713217680
What is SEGA without those franchises Football Manager and Total War?

>>713215335
Old Denuvo was perma one time payment deal. After they got bought by Irdeto in 2018 they changed that and then in 2021 changed to subscription model. Denuvo isnt cheap long term it cant be because Irdeto has to sustain wages of one of the best cyber security team in the planet thats why Denuvo got sold in the first place and why Irdeto pushed for a change with how deals work.

>>713218034
Yakuza mines and whatever SMT-adjacent game Atlus decides to make since franchises like EO and Trauma are dead to them.
Maybe those IP revisits they keep touting will amount to something, but they won't make gangbusters so the real kicker is seeing what they do with them after that.

>>713214580 (OP)
>Nearly 1 million per SMT release
How does this compare to previous titles?

>>713218174
I wonder how much sega paid to have permanent denuvo for the foreseeable future.

Cant you just........ Play video games instead discussing about DRM ? I dont really care about Denuvo it doesnt really affect me.... Did Stellar Blade has it or what ? I just bought it yesterday and i plan to play it this weekend.

>>713218596
yeah, Denuvo absolutely buckbroke a lot of thirdies and poorfags who really want to play Stellar Blade
i don't like it either obviously but if i want to play a game i'm going to play a game because i'm not poor or a cuck

>>713218596
>>713218963
I have no clue why I'd want to play Stellar Blade anyways. Same for Black Myth. The games both look utterly soulless.

I am, however, looking forward to Kunitsu-Gami losing Denuvo. Been looking for news of that happening for months.

>>713219021
your loss, both SB and Wukong are very good if you like action games. especially SB

>>713219021
Both of those games have a lot of soul actually.

>>713214976
>The fuck were they expecting?
Probably Mario sales.

>>713218963
I just realize Project Diva PC has denuvo lol !
I owned that game since they released it on PC 3 years ago

>>713218419
Pretty favorably, most likely. 4, 4A and SJ were handheld titles and pretty niche, and then games before that were limited to most of their sales being made in Japan. SMTV comparatively is a big global launch where they actually marketed the game.
There's this webpage if you want to compare more numbers but I wouldn't take it as hard fact. https://megatenwiki.com/wiki/Sales_History_of_the_Megami_Tensei_franchise

>>713219021
Not gonna happen. CAPCOM stopped removing Denuvo since Resident evil 4. Just give up and rent that game with Denuvo activator

>>713217802
What happens when you go off instead of on?

>>713219073
>>713219086
They just look incredibly generic and boring to me. I respect that they are clearly tech marvels, but they don't move me at all.

>>713219186
At best, I'll wait until it's under 10 bucks. I've waited this long so I'll just keep waiting. I was planning on buying it on launch too, but they had a ridiculous price for it. I think it was a full 60 bucks on launch. Fuck outta here.

>>713219186
They don't remove denuvo from RE games until the next one comes out
They'll drop it like a month before RE9 comes out like they always do

>>713217802
All those text and you havent list all those Japs game that use denuvo.

For example BAMCO started to use Denuvo again since latest Super Robot Taisen, so we will gonna see CODE VEIN 2 and TALES game use Denuvo from now on

>>713219073
>especially SB
lol

>>713219404
Nope, CAPCOM always schedule it between 1 year to 2 years after release. But this time is different, they never remove it since then.

If Onimusha 2 PS2 port had Denuvo, its safe to say they have taken SEGA approach for Denuvo licensing

>>713218596
>can you just... ignore retarded shit that kills performance and gives a backdoor into your computer???
No, I dont think I will.
>>713218963
>its ok that Im paying for worse performance all because some retard wants to squeeze an extra $100 out of people that werent going to pay for it anyway! Im a gigantic cuck retard that has no impulse control at all!

>>713219724
You need to upgrade your GTX 1060 my friend....

>>713219526
I just went through their backlog on steam, the oldest game that still has denuvo is RE4, which is waiting for the next RE game like they do every time
The next game to still have denuvo is DD2, which is only a year old
Monster Hunter Stories is barely a year old and it's already been removed and replaced with enigma
Kunitsu-gami isn't a year old yet

>>713219526
Resident Evil 4 remake is barely over 2 years old. You're counting your eggs before they're hatched.

>>713219790
I have a 3070, fag.

>>713219825
You should run latest video games fine with medium high settings. Go for it. Play the game you want

>>713219824
>>713219813

Its 820 days or about 2 and half years. Im starting to doubt CAPCOM will ever remove Denuvo

>>713215406
>the last patch shrank the games file size by 27%
Did it really?

>>713214580 (OP)
Why did you turn this thread about an interesting leak into a thread arguing about drm? Are you stupid?

>>713219963
Like I said, they're waiting for RE9.
Resident Evil ALWAYS keeps denuvo until some time around the release date of the next game

>Stellar Blade sold twice as much as Infinite Wealth
I would not have expected that

>>713219963
Look, anon, when Capcom keeps Kunitsu-Gami on Denuvo for over 2 years, we can talk. Right now, you're doing a nothingburger as far as I'm concerned. Sega is the only company that keeps denuvo for ridiculously long times nowadays.

>>713220063
eh i dont buy it. RE2 and RE3 denuvo was quickly removed

>>713219878
>its ok that this fag company has a backdoor into my computer because you can run this thing at ok settings when you should be able to run it much higher
Stop making excuses, its fucking shit and does nothing but ruin games

>>713220101
Im already concerned
SEGA never removes it, ever.

>>713220168
Really though ? Should run buttery smooth on your RTX 3070 while keeping your shitpost tab open

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV5cylBGsyQ

>>713219724
if i want to play a game: i play it
you skip games you want to play and seethe about it like a little bitch
one person is a cuck in this scenario and it's not me

>>713220168
Doubt youre like Indy but this only serves as benchmark purposes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NiqqbMFBS4

Your GPU is still fine, you can wait 3/4 more years before it needed an upgrade

>>713220124
Then you're just stupid and like doomposting
It took 2 years before 8 removed it, they'll remove it from 4 some time around February

>>713216456
So are you an investor?

>>713220582
Its earlier than that but We'll see. In 6 months ill will be right

>>713219790
Oh great! Another Denuvo salesman, maybe you can give me an answer for this question.
How Denuvo positively affects me, the paying customer?
List of possible negative outcomes is quite long but no one, ever mentioned anything good related to your product.

>>713220792
Considering you were already wrong about them not removing it from anything since RE4 came out despite most of their games since then having already removed it I doubt it

>>713214580 (OP)
Why can't these faggots give me a Sakura Wars collection on Steam

>>713214580 (OP)
Hey Sonic Superstars didn't actually do that badly.

Did they expect it to hit 3 million like Sonic Frontiers?

>>713220913
275 days left and counting. Tick tock

>>713220880

>>713214580 (OP)
80% of Persona sales are outside Japan. It's a game developed, written, and marketed towards disgusting ironic weeaboos instead of native Japanese otaku like P3 and P4 were. Zombie franchise.

>>713221038
>Hey Sonic Superstars didn't actually do that badly.
>Did they expect it to hit 3 million like Sonic Frontiers?
Yes
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/698957373/#699000242

>>713221054
Act smug all you want retard you've been wrong about every single thing you've said in this thread
Now I'm gonna go jack off to pictures of Sonic the hedgehog instead of trying to talk to a brick wall

>>713214580 (OP)
Holy Based Sega, that explains the news that came out yesterday, Sega is making a huge comeback

>>713214580 (OP)
Would really like to see Sonic Origins' sales data.

>>713221371
275 days left

>>713214580 (OP)
Wow I would have expected that three kingdoms wasn't quite the flop you might expect because China would flock to it but I wasn't expecting it to be that far above Warhammer.
Still that's more than enough for Warhammer to justify adding Naval combat instead of spending all those resources making hyenas.

>>713219997
Yeah, they said it should make future patching easier too, funnily enough I had some issues with steam in actually installing the patch but I think that was something fucky on my end.

>>713214580 (OP)
P5X is probably about to make them a lot of money too

>>713220168
Anon, you're arguing with paid shills. Don't expect them to speak in good faith.

>>713221556
It wasn't CA's decision to make HYENAS, they were, unironically, the only studio (owned by SEGA) capable to make a hero shooter game (thanks to Alien Isolation).
SEGA just gave them money and ordered them to make the game and retarded CA management instead of resisting, said "of course we can do that no problem, it'll be absolute banger"

>>713222060
If thats true, where do i sign up ? Looks like easy, well paying job. It fits for me

That looks like evergreen sales, seems like it's working to me?

>>713214580 (OP)
>Team Sonic Racing sold 3.5 million
Jesus, Crossworlds is about to sell like hot cakes

>>713222367
It's not worth it. At best you'll be paid 5 rupees a day.

>>713222060
How much was the pay ?

>>713215174
Sonic outsold Persona 3 reload

>>713222582
Any sources ?

>>713222449
That explains why they're showing so much support and budget into the game and post launch stuff

>>713214580 (OP)
If Team Sonic Racing sold THAT much then Crossworlds is gonna sell for insane numbers. Its already top 8 on PlayStation store.

>>713219724
>Walk into store
>Electronics are behind locks
>>Actually this is the fault of the store owners and not niggers

>>713222867
SEGA were smart not giving Crossworld a concrete release date until Mario Kart was nearly out. By September the game has a much fairer chance not getting cannibalized by it and even Switch 2 owners will buy because they want more shit to play on their new console
Not to mention crossplay being a thing so online shouldn't be dead

>>713217181
Pretty sure Frontiers didn't get the lifetime plan and still has Denuvo

>>713214580 (OP)
>that massive drop off in sales for smt v base game on switch
No wonder sega really wanted to get the vengeance port out onto other platforms.
Switchfags don't really buy these games guess there is some truths that third parties sell poorly on switch.

>>713223279
>Switchfags don't really buy these games guess there is some truths that third parties sell poorly on switch.
Switchfags only buy Nintendo stuff
Sonyfags only buy Sony stuff
It’s ogre, time for Dreamcast 2

>Three Kingdoms outsold WH3

>>713223279
>Base SMTV on only Switch did more than SMTVV on every system
What?

>>713223525
The issue is the massive drop off in sales, that 10k number is pathetic.
Vengeance didn't sell for nearly as long as the base game did but I guarantee at least future numbers will remain consistently high for vengeance

>>713214580 (OP)
Good to see goyhammer troons being btfo'd by real Total War desu

>>713223279
Switchlets don't support third party games

>>713223706
>>713223496
You won't look so smug when they announce Total Warhammer 40k.

>>713215094
i like having both desu. ideally, you see gross revenue. Playstation sales leak was the best

i'm shocked persona 5 is so popular. even outsold Persona 3 reload in the same year that game came out. they need persona 6 asap

>>713223924
40k fanboys are busy getting droned in Ukraine

>>713224348
meds

Any word on Phantasy Star?

>>713223279
It's not the switch's fault, it had really bad word of mouth

>>713214976
It didn't sell as much as Mario kart world so it's a flop for the sonic team

>>713214580 (OP)
>Yakuza 8
But I was told sales were good?

>>713223496
The last few years proved chinks buy chink aligned things in droves. It's just such a fickle market you're an idiot for chasing that short term money because they will turn on it.

>>713219724
>worse performance
literally does not affect people with better than any 60 series gpu made in the last 4 years

Three kingdoms selling so well confuses me since they have been stunlocked by warhammer for the last decade.

Sega is dinosaur ass boomer company that is on the verge of death. They will be acquired by Microsoft by 2029

>>713225852
Sure thing nigger

>>713225330
its goofy fatigue.

>>713225198
It's not covered under regular game sales because it falls under Sega's online division. There's no unit sales, just gacha and premium earnings. There's less paypiggies than before, japs from all servers report a smaller supply of cosmetics.

>>713222828
I kneel SonicChads

>>713226251
But I love goofy ahh games
My favorite ones recently are kingdom hearts 2, dragons dogma 2, and jimmy neutron boy wonder.

>>713225852
Microsoft uses denuvo as well

>>713215335
>>713215676
>>713218174
You retards have no idea how any of those contracts look like or what's in them.

>>713225330
Sold almost 3 times as much as LaD in its first year.

>>713215094
based circanaGOD

>>713214580 (OP)
>smt V barely outsold a low effort remake
god damn it

>>713220880
I will attach PNG with list of benefits for the honest buyer. Read learn and rejoice

>like a dragon gaiden: the man who erased his sales
>like a dragon: limited wealth

>>713225816
Base game sold well. Dlc flopped.

Sonic still raking in the cash, it seems.

>these are the games denuvojeets have been shilling all this time
Kek, love to see it. I wonder if they'll update their script and cry "of course bad games dont sell!" from now on. Probbaly not.

>>713217214
Frontiers is that high because it somehow also attracted Japanese audiences for once. Without them it probably would have been a million or so less.
What's really shocking is Team Sonic Racing being that high considering the game basically came and went with barely anyone talking positively about it, even amongst Sonic fans.

>denuvo is actually go-ACK!

>>713223704
Do you also believe in brand momentum?

>>713214580 (OP)
Source?

>>713214580 (OP)
>Leak leak leak!!!!

>>713233878
https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/sega-leaked-6-years-of-sales-numbers-for-sonic-persona-smt-like-a-dragon-and-total-war.3829/
first result on google. Apparently sega made an oopsie

>>713231782
>brownoid sees a list of AA games selling well and thinks 'THIS R NOT GUD' because he is a sub 90 IQ as is most of his brethren
lmao

>>713233992
>apparently, some massive secret leak are real this time!!!

>>713214896
MGSV still has it, 10 years later

>>713234076
>It's all a lie, I swear!
source?

>>713234076
Stop being retarded. That is literally from Sega's own shareholders own link to the official site of sammy itself.

>>713233992
Looks like they edited it.

>>713234000
>a list of AA games selling well
where?

>>713214580 (OP)
well at least smt v sold more than persona 3

>>713234076
>>713234238
You can literally go to the pdf and copypaste the "blanks" to a txt giving you sales numbers because the sega employees are fucking idiots.

>>713234371
>they don't teach his brown country how to read in school
very sad :(

>>713234479
>YOU BROWN SAAAR!!!!!
Nope.

>>713234626
>YOU BROWN SAAAR!!!!!
Yes, you do say that and look like that.

>>713234724
>NO YOU BROWN SAAAR!!!!!
Retard.

>>713234883
>i am sales numbsr of gam i do no play saar why he call mi brown
retard

>>713221472
This place loves to say Sega and Sonic are dying, it's always hilarious seeing faggots on /v/ wrong (which is damn near all the time)

>>713234948
>incoherent jeet noises
Sad!

>>713235272
>incoherent jeet noises
Oh, he finally gets the issues with his posts! Will he fix it? Probably not.

>>713235173
I mean, look, you have retards ITT trying to say these are bad numbers lmao

Is the Yakuza series and the spinoffs the COD of Japan? You know, absolute slop that gets at minimum one game a year.

>>713235374
>NO YOU INCOHERENT SAAAR!!!!!
lmao

>>713235460
>saar number bad who care if stock up????
for playing pretend stock market all day long on 4chins with sales numbers, you retards sure ignore the real world one lmao
Cope for me more, Prootpeet

>>713214580 (OP)
>P5R sold 7 mil on its own
>If you count the original P5 then P5 sold over 10 mil
Jesus, no wonder they're taking forever with P6. They have to make sure the new team doesn't fuck up or Atlus loses a cash cow

>>713215676
Nah, longer than than a few years.
Denuvo was removed from World after the Fatalis Update and that was... 2018 I think
It also got removed from Rise a few years ago

>>713235570
>NO SAAAR SEE STOCKS SAAAR!!!!!
Kek, a poo shilling a pump 'n' dump. Classic.

>>713215767
When it comes to internal executive briefing (which is what this chart is)? Yes.

>>713235868
>year long growth
>pump and dump
>Prootpreet doesn't know the basic meaning of words
SAAR please do the needful and get a fucking dictionary

Did we ever get full numbers on how bad Soul Hackers 2 did?

>>713226924
You literally can find older deals from leaks and its also public how much it costs and how it works now because Irdeto openly advertises that you retarded nigger troon.

>>713235996
>highest point in the graph is after the meeting
>NOOO SAAAR YEAR LONG GROWTH SAAAR!!!!
Another classic, a poo seething when you see through his scam

>>713236147
how mad are you that Sega is thriving after an entire of year of shitposting steamchart numbers from your New Dehli work site, Prootpreet?

>>713222449
It got legs because of the movie, and based on how it consistently sold units over time, it probably got a boost every time one of the movie released

>>713236147
you were crying when you typed this lmao

>>713214580 (OP)
Warhammer 3 flopped?

>>713236197
>>713236218
>NO YOU MAD SAAAR!!!!!
lmao

>>713236401
actual jeet tears HAHA

>>713232009
I imagine it got a boost every time one of the movies came out since it did get one when the first movie came out. I figured it'd have good legs but 3.5 million is crazy, no wonder they saw value in making CrossWorlds bigger in scope

>>713215094
Yep

>>713214580 (OP)
Paper Mario TTYD's remake which released at the end of the Switch's lifespan outsold Persona 3 Reload, Yakuza 8 Infinite Wealth and at worst 100% matched SMTVV which all released during the middle of PS5/Whatever Xbox consoles are called these days nobody cares anyways.
People are really bad at gauging sales. /V/irgins very much included.

>>713236415
>NO YOU CRYING TEARS SAAAR!!!!!
Dump started btw

>>713216314
Yakuza as a whole is getting less sales, thats reallly concerning, but i guess we should see the jap data to see if Yakuza will keep being around

>>713237072
Gaiden is especially bad and it's about Kiryu to boot. Maybe Pirate Majima will save the franchise

>>713219098
A lot of Mario games don't even sell that much

>>713234376
Persona 3 is a remake
P5 still mogs smtv

>>713237045
>2 hours
retard
lmao

I'm surprised that they still didn't announce Frontiers 2 considering how successful it is

>>713236648
And an indie like Palworld mogged most Nintendo games
And?

>>713237072
Id imagine its because it's a continuous story and it'lltake most people a year to catch up. I haven't played it for that reason. Kinda like those anime trails games

>>713237518
palworld? the shamelessly plagiarizing FOTM that still couldn't even come close to sniffing distance of modern pokémon games (which are utterly terrible)?
that palworld?

>>713225198
what >>713226326 said
The recent news from their financial reports is likely still true though, since NGS is the only (still active) game for a specific release year, so the autists extrapolated some reliable info from it.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xH2N1gGaOqJdLpgPqj0znMUIqMPa8KKkyF30AWQ2S_4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

>>713216161
The older games are now essentially DLC for the newest one, it's good if you already had them but for new players you can just buy it cheap on sale and get better value than the actual DLCs (or use creamapi for everything)

>>713237782
Still more popular than many Nintendo games
>Plagiarizing
Pokemon copied smt

>>713237859
>Pokemon copied smt
Thing commonly said by retards

>>713237909
I accept your concession

>>713237509
They'll probably do so at TGA and they want to focus on CrossWorlds first

>>713237931
Another thing commonly said by retards

>>713237449
>2 hours
>lost 3%
>the jeet's still trying to push this
lmao

>>713214732
>>713214896
I'm fairly sure big publishers have different rates with Denuvo compared to everyone else.

>>713234376
>barely
>smtv sold for a way longer time and needed a new port for it.

>>713214580 (OP)
I don't get it. Are those BAD sales figures?

>>713237782
>"Couldn't even come close to sniffing distance of modern pokémon games"
>outsold Lets Go, Diaper remakes, and Arceus Legends

>Even Team Sonic Racing which isn't held in as high a regard as the Sega All-stars games has multi-million sales

How long must Crash's humiliation ritual continue.

>>713218596
>Cant you just........ Play video games
Where do you think you are?

Sega Won

>>713238412
>outsold spinoffs and remakes
waaaoaoooowowowowow

>>713238742
Anon, if I could do better, I would. Pocket Pair says 32 million "players" so we can only confirm 15 million sales

>>713214580 (OP)
>SMT V Fiscal Year 2024
>only sold 10k
Oof that's rough, do Switch players even buy these games?

>>713214580 (OP)
Why the fuck is yakuza selling like shit?
I thought it was a popular franchise
Sad

>>713239094
Nintendofags don't support games third party games, but they will port beg so they don't feel left out.

>>713216143
Dude bought a pass and thinks he can impersonate mods, LOL

>>713219073
I will never understand 3rd person action slop.

>>713239210
>Nintendofags don't support games
What do they play on their consoles then?

>>713239267
mashing buttons is fun

>>713239094

>>713239289
First party games.... wait no sometimes those don't sell gangbusters like Metroid Dread.
I guess only bing bing wahoos like Mario Kart and Smash Bros sell so they play those mostly.

>>713237793
Damn, no surprise though. Even I stopped logging in to NGS a couple months ago despite playing pso2 since like 2012. Insane how they probably spent more on HYENAS, the Crazy Taxi GAAS, and the Jet Set Radio GAAS than they have on the entirety of the Phantasy Star franchise in the past 2 decades.

>>713238736
SegaChads just keep winning

>>713214896
japanese people just do shit because "we've been doing it like this for years"

you can show them concrete irrefutable evidence that what they are doing is complete retardation and they will keep doing it anyways

>>713237509
it's 100% getting announced at the Game Awards this December

>>713239094
>Tendies beg for Persona games
>Fatlus gives them Persona’s autistic older brother
>Tendies don’t give a shit
>Fatlus left utterly baffled

>>713239480
No wonder third parties try to avoid porting to the switch. The money, time and effort to port it to switch only for their games to not sell. I can imagine not being very motivating for them.
Maybe this is why we see none of the recent Atlus rpg like Persona 3 remake and Metaphor get a switch 2 port announcement.

>>713239504
>First party games
But you said they don't support games

>>713240334
Third party games.

>>713240379
No, you said games
Here, look >>713239210
>Nintendofags don't support games
Did I made this up? No, you said this

>>713240487
I didn't make that post I only replied to this post>>713239289

>>713215767
The Jew is right, retard

>>713240678
You're gay

>>713239094
>>713239210
>>713239480
>>713240180
Why did you left out the part where shitty port on other console failed while the og on switch was fine.

>>713240180
It sold 1 mil on the switch what are you waflling about? Its the that vengeance multi-plat port that nobody fucking buy which is very funny.

>>713240314
Fell for the grifter talking point when it was proven wrong immediately afterwards, huh? Imagine already dooming a new console that has only been out for 2 weeks and decide its future based off old ports instead of, I don't know, actual new games?

>>713215406
WH3's non-dlc factions just aren't that exciting honestly. Felt like they were scraping the bottom of the barrel.
For me the only thing the game offered over 2 was the improved multiplayer campaigns so if I didn't have a friend to play it with I wouldn't have bought it either.

>>713241057
Wait a couple more fiscal years then maybe we can compare. Because I guarantee you the port will consistently sell high numbers especially with steam sales and not drop off the face of the earth with a number like 10k.
I mean just compare with the numbers of all the other games on the list that still sell high numbers.

Nintendo sucks, anyways not bad numbers

>>713241197
>>713241309
And Vengeance is also on Switch too, so without platform splits for this leaked data then there's no point in niggers here trying to force a consolewar derail, especially when using incomplete data from fucking Chris Dring lmao

>>713214580 (OP)
disgusted by the fact that shitty sonic games sell so well

>>713241309
All I did was make my post based on the image. I'm genuinely wondering why so many third parties aren't announcing their ports.
Persona 4 Revival also didn't get a switch 2 port btw meanwhile all the others were confirmed.
It was pretty funny how many people expected the Xbox showcase to have a ton of Switch 2 port announcements but there was basically none.

>still complaining about denuvo
nigger just look up denuvo offline activation, sure it can be a bit crowded on the game launch day but wait a week later and you're good to go

>>713216314
>>713237072
>>713239169
Yakuza is cheap for them to make, that's why they're keep making it and it kept selling with sub-500K sales in Japan alone.
They make these games annually

>>713242340
Too much effort

>>713239480
>Posted it again award

>>713241385
lol
>1. [NSW] Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance – 31,888 / NEW
>2. [PS5] Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance – 18,610 / NEW

>>713245217
You must be confused by my post if you're posting famitsu sale numbers.

>>713245298
Nope. Vengeance on Switch was the best selling version, so your whole triade makes completely no sense
>b-b-b-buh in 2035 it will sell more units on Steam sale at $2.99 than on eshop!
lmao

>>713219997
Yeah, game was like 130gig before the patch, new patch brought it down to 82gig

>>713245579
>Vengeance on Switch was the best selling
Source? Because the number on your famitsu sale isn't very consistent with the numbers on the list. The game on steam could very well be the best selling platform(at least for vengence)
>>b-b-b-buh in 2035 it will sell more units on Steam sale at $2.99 than on eshop!
Now you're just being disingenuous. I don't know how you can defend a number like 10k in a whole fiscal year when all the others sell consistently well in all the fiscal years.

>>713214580 (OP)
Don't ever tell me they can't make Valkyria Chronicles 5 with that kind of money

>>713246149
It's not that they can't it's that they don't WANT to

Holy shit at those flop Yakuza numbers

Also SMT V is a flop too

>>713246318
And Persona 3 Reload, that's a flop too!

>>713214580 (OP)
>SMTV: 960,000, 150,000, 10,000, 960,000
i guess the blatant cashgrabs do work lol

>>713246698
Are they counting goypass downloads?

I just learned that crazy taxi, sonic cd, super monkey ball sakura and some other shit nobody cares about are free on the android play store.

>>713239613
Because changing things means your boss was wrong and that's very disrespectful.

>>713246806
No.

>>713214896
A lot of older Denuvo releases still keep it even after the games have had a DRM-free release elsewhere
Mad Max and Deus Ex Mankind Divided both still have Denuvo on the Steam version despite both also having an entirely DRM-free GOG release