Thread 713216891

Obsojeet?

I will use my power to FUCK.

>>713218751
i'm still using midnight miqu for that, any suggestions? 70b is like where i like to be but i know thats kinda uncommon now. nemo and similar models are ok for small models, but everything huge seems to be 100b+ now and mistral large (123b) isn't even better

>>713216891 (OP)
absolute kino if you have the patience and/or money to set it up properly

erotic literature was easier to hide from my parents than proper porn, so making my own makes me rabid. can be a little expensive if you use something like openrouter with a quality model (fond of gemini 2.5 pro atm), but the quality is unreal when done correctly

>>713219051
>paying for erp
none of the big models are any better nor worth it. they are more censored and will require more rerolls anyways. if all you want is erp, a small model like nemo will suffice. for actual long rp that can be rp, bigger models like 70b are better. but still local. you should never give a dime to coom

>>713216891 (OP)
Does it still have issues remembering what's going on?

>>713219810
there is vector storage but once you go beyond your context window, that previous data is gone besides what vs will inject for memories. you should be writing your own memories into the author notes

>>713219713
incorrect, but you can get a lot of mileage from free models. also understand that the "game" changes and evolves very quickly, this is cutting edge shit.

there are extremely high quality jailbreaks for gemini and deepseek. gemini stops at CSAM, but the filth you can create outside of that path is unbelievable. deepseek is the wild west, but the model is also crazy and schizo.

i have spent an ordinate amount of time exploring my options. if i was starting over, i'd learn the ropes from a model i could host locally.

>>713216891 (OP)
Been part of the ST gooning community for 3 years now.
Started with Cai, went to proxy begging, now i just pay $20 every 2-3 months for openrounter. Feels good.

>>713219961
>if i was starting over, i'd learn the ropes from a model i could host locally.
this is literally the easiest way anyways, and you get the benefit of it never disappearing - no one can take away your current setup. meanwhile, you can check your online ai one day and that model is gone now

>>713220359
i'm not disagreeing with you, man. i'm just saying the big models really are better.

the small models lack creativity and variance, the cliches and repetition eventually bored me and i needed something fresher. but they are a great place to start. it's like jacking off to farts, eventually you gotta move to scat.

>>713218956
>>713219051
>>713220245
Why not just use Agnai with custom cards?

>>713219051
>>713219713
I just use ERP sites and typefuck with random dudes pretending to be women like a normal person

>>713220702
>>713220702
I can't cum unless they use proper grammar and syntax. Thank you, robot overlords.

>>713220478
totally agree its about size, but 70b has been good for that for a while. nothing local is going to beat online api, but it can be pretty close and i prefer to host stuff myself

>>713219051
Do you have any sessions or tidbits from 2.5 that you're proud of enough to throw on a pastebin or a catbox litter .txt? Not gonna kinkshame no matter how sickfuck it is, just genuinely curious at the range, quality, consistency, variance and novelty, dialogue, etc. of the model

>>713216891 (OP)
Better than VNs than in terms of social simulation, but can't beat a good story.

>>713216891 (OP)
bump

>>713220512
Is this bitch from not porn
search engines gives nothing

It's just a frontend. how does ST make anything obsolete?

My fetish is for something seemingly normal so I can get GPT to write stories about it with no problem

>>713219051
>fond of gemini 2.5 pro atm
based.

>>713221385
here we are anon. i thought about it, and found something i think is a great example because it's not filthy, and it is juggling two characters at the same time. the main card, and then a relevant side character. that has traditionally been extremely difficult for a model to do unless you hand hold this. this required no retry or editing.
yes, i am hopeless.

>>713223036
my nigga

>>713222506
After like 20 minutes of searching it seems like her name is Sara Lima, and that gif is from a random not-porn livestream that the same group of websites that hosts giantbomb and Tested. Whiskey Media is the website host if you care. It's not porn.

AI is entertaining but it will never "replace" anything. I don't get the desperation for it to. Just enjoy gooning to chatbots and enjoy the labors of love that visual novels are, you don't have to be black/white about it.

>>713220245
What models do you use?

im having more fun making anime battles than doing erp

>>713216891 (OP)
im too dumb to set it up correctly

>>713216891 (OP)
You don't read slop for a good story, retard. You do it to RP.

>>713216891 (OP)
It replaces shitty porn games and nukige for braindead coomers (the only people using this) but it can't replace a good VN story

>>713219961
>there are extremely high quality jailbreaks for gemini and deepseek.
Mind sharing?

>>713218956
Magnum v4 72B.

>>713225693
look up nemoengine on leddit, anon

>when your rp gets so degenerate the AI starts putting snide comments into its responses
Shit's getting too smart, it spooks me.

>>713225602
>He isn't able to wrangle and guide the AI into good plots and themes that connect and build off of each other
Learn to write, Sanderson's lectures are free and great.

>>713225909
Appreciate it.

>>713225909
>Avi slop

>>713226253
you can disable the council shit, it's super customizable. id love to hear it if you have a better one.

This shit looks like Zork. How the fuck are you supposed to jack off to it?

Hopefully DDR6 is good and gives us more than 200 GB RAM in consumer mobos. I don't want to get a server or a mac to run deepseek privately.

>>713226636
pretty sure you can already do that with PCIE addon cards

also intel's next-gen desktop CPUs are supposed to have HEDT levels of PCIE lanes

>>713226597
Have you ever read an erotic story before? Well, this is basically co-writing one with AI.

How is this video games related?

>>713226907
is this your first month on 4chan discovering that no one actually cares about adhering strictly to the board subject
anyway text chatbots are arguably more a videogame than visual novels are

>>713226708
But then you're limited by PCIe speed which is really low. And you still need a graphics card so you're putting the addon on gimped slots.

>>713226907
Text adventure games are a thing, anon.

>>713227000
>But then you're limited by PCIe speed which is really low
i don't think this is actually a thing
it may have very marginally higher latency due to physical distance from the CPU

>>713227005
Look at any thread or card for sillytavern. It's almost all ERP.

>>713227056
Wdym? You still need pass data from any PCIe devices over PCIe to RAM in order to process the data. And current PCIe is slower than current gen RAM. Especially on consumer mobos where only the primary GPU slot is PCIe 5.0 or x16, so you're in practice limited to something like <32 GB/s on those slots.
You have to transfer large amounts of known data with LLMs so latency isn't important but bandwidth is.

You guys are silly, their are ways to use it without even spending a dime, go to /g/ and check the thread, or if you can stomach go /mlp/ check the chag board, and just get a easy link from their, or even if you want to pay their a site that you get basically unlimited repones from openrounter and use deepseek for ten bucks, it can be a bit wonky but its getting better and better as it develops.

>>713227803
Who are you talking about? I already use those APIs. I'm just saying a private option would also be nice to have.

>>713227803
fren /aicg/ has been borderline unusable for a year now and /chag/ has gone almost totally silent on new stuff to avoid spitefags and newfrens from ruining everything again.

>>713227946
Their still exist some sources, I will agree things are a little bleak these days but could be worse I've been using my copliot.

>>713224398
>this required no retry or editing.
This is really great, much better than the slop some people try to sell you.
What's the story behind it?

>>713228136
i am down bad for goth girls anon, and i am also down bad for abused girls. her sister is a real jerk

>>713228519
>i am down bad for goth girls anon
based, but doubles based if they're big titty goth girls.
>and i am also down bad for abused girls.
also based.
>her sister is a real jerk
looking how she's described as "bratty", I'd say it's correction time for her.

>>713228519
You shouldn't be down for goths anon, their really bad for you, realistically, I have dated them, and it was a bad time.

What's up with the frequent threads on /v/ recently?

>>713228728
i know, that is why i am jerking off to text instead of ruining my life

writing character cards is so fun bros

>>713228968
Maybe the AI generals got so bad that someone got fed up with it.

>>713227005
This is why I care about generative AI, I want to run only slightly lewd dungeon crawls with slice-of-life town sections between. I lost my Claude token at some point and haven't looked into how to get a new one so I'm waiting for the next big revolution before I get back on the horse

>>713216891 (OP)
i cant get this faggot shit to work. it had me download all sorts of nerd ass github shit with no exe (why the FUCK is this a thing that's caught on????) expecting me to compile and build it myself or whatever, anyawy maybe it did work idk i was gacked on dope and then got distracted downloading "AI toolbox" which i know for a FACT did that github shit. There are no exes but there are some python things i can run. And none of them FUCKING work because they ask for Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_ or some shit, so i go and download it. And I put it in the fucking folder it asks for, and it still won't FUCKING DO SHIT

VOICE GEN, IMAGE GEN, ALL THIS FUCKING SHIT...AND IT WON'T FUCKING WORK

I want to FUCKING murder the dumb nerd bitch that made github, then I want to SUPER MURDER the dumb faggot fucks that forced it to catch on. Back in MY FUCKING DAY, we used EXEs and SHIT. Or at LEAST a fucking ISO you mount with deamon tools or something

Gosh FUCKING damn. I guess I'm forced to stick with backyard ai (which i FOOLISHLY let update the other day, and now none of the voices work anymore) + perchance and shit

whatever. i made a sweet, super dirty and fucked up song with that suno shit the other day so maybe it's balanced out. Shit was so cash.

>>713229838
The other boards can't compete with /v/ in amount of people. This thread is just going to be more visible when it's up.

>>713225667
>good VN story

>>713230079
Just download the zip if you're too retarded to get into Git.

>>713216891 (OP)
It's worthless.

>>713228968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0tTbTbmVA

>>713230246
Sorry anon, but VNs are the peak of literature. All the accessibility of a picture book, coupled with dynamic soundtracks that set the mood and voice acting for the characters all in one perfect package easily blows out anything printed out the water.

>>713230593
My imagination is still better.

>>713230246
You could just say literature or text games instead
This is only good for masturbating

>>713230741
If your imagination is really so good why don't you imagine up a book?

>>713230593
>2nd person perspective
>peak of literature
I have no constructive response for something that absurd

>>713230246
one of the most kino moments in all of vidya came from a VN

>>713230929
>ITT: Anons who are unable to appreciate the sublime beauty of the 2nd person perspective
Grim. Must be difficult living such a joyless life.

>>713216891 (OP)
I unironically got a free key for claude 4 by beating a tf2 rocket jump course. Hard work pays off

>>713227946
The /aicg/ guys literally got party van'd, I wouldn't touch those threads with a 10 foot pole.

>>713216891 (OP)
You don't form plurals like that.

>>713231441
wait, really?

>>713231441
The fuck? Were they genning realistic pics of children or some shit?

>>713231517
turns out microsoft doesn't like it when people steal thousands of dollars from them

>>713231535
They had image gen proxies that people in /aco/ used for genning Taylor Swift naked and covered in pig shit, as well as realistic depictions of children. Since the keys were also stolen and were occasionally from people paying M$ big bucks, and there was "software for accomplishing this" (a frontend that prepended a thing in official docs to your requests but called it a jailbreak, the actual servers routing requests), they got turned by a lawyer from a bunch of retards in a 4chan thread into a criminal enterprise committing fraud for pay.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/28/microsoft_names_and_shames_4/
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69534982/microsoft-corporation-v-does-1-10-operating-an-azure-abuse-network/

>>713231863
You can read the threads where it happened here.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103841808/#103843280
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103846021

>its another shill thread spammed multiple times baiting for responses
>doesnt even try to hide it
>literally made 2 seconds from eachother

>>713232079
HAHAHAHA nice joke, human.

>>713231863
>>713231982
LOL LMAO what a nothing burger, that was DALL3 from months ago, they make it sound so alarming.
>>713231441
/aicg/ isn't going anywhere

>>713232864
Some of them don't even know they've been dead for months now...

Ok, I've heard good stuff about gemini. What preset is everyone using?

>>713230246
>he doesn't know
Man, i'd kill to be this ignorant again. On you, illiterate fuckwit who will never touch a single vn, that ignorance is entirely WASTED

Probably 80% of my wanks for the past half a year have been to coombot slop. I'm glad I never got into drugs because good fucking lord do I apparently have an addictive personality. Maybe getting into AI shit was worse, though.

>start off making porn images
>don't get horny enough to cum
>mind wanders
currently torn, do i watch a kino, play a videoed game, or autistically fiddle over comic books?

>>713233846
846 is a good number. very rounded, good sound to it. a solid number like that points to gaming and furthermore commands i go get a bottle

>>713232969
cringe on your part
>LE FUCK YOU FURRY!!!111

For me it's intricate and mechanically tight tabletop RPGs (mostly GURPS and Savage Worlds) where the AI is a brilliant and adaptive GM who weaves an enthralling meta narrative that builds upon successive combat encounters, interesting character arcs, plot and setting hooks, while also humoring my tendency to rape and kidnap the sexy women I come across in my adventures

AI has been pretty marvelous

>>713230253
Thats still just going to give them the raw repository, not a nice double-click-able exe file

>>713216891 (OP)
I have too many romantic incest cards lol both straight and femboy and gilf :)

For me it's intricate and mechanically tight tabletop RPGs (mostly GURPS and Savage Worlds) where the AI is a brilliant and adaptive GM who weaves an enthralling meta narrative that builds upon successive combat encounters, interesting character arcs, plot and setting hooks, while also humoring my tendency to rape and kidnap the sexy women I come across in my adventures

AI has been pretty marvelous

>>713234275
Double clicking the Start.bat file in that repository is all they need to run SillyTavern. Why would you need an exe?

>>713230079
kek reddit-spacing retard

I only have a 16g card, and while I can get pretty good textgen wank going having to wrangle the tard output all the time means that more often than not I just end up busting to the scenario development I'm fleshing out before I even trim it into being usable by a card/worldinfo.

>>713216891 (OP)
That's what pedos use to exploit minors.

>>713216891 (OP)
where do i find new characters?

>>713235724
https://chub.ai/search

>>713235724

What? Just make your own. The people who post cards online are 99% ESL/retarded and don't know how LLMs functions. It's less effort than wading through trash.

>>713235483
This is true. I've already exploited a billion minors using SillyTavern.

>>713235483
>"my task is to respond as Exa, maintaining her character."
refuse to try this out until this fundamental limitation is fixed

How do I stop feeling cringe when writing my cards?

>>713237539
Embrace the cringe, only then will you truly be free to make the best bots you can make.

>>713235483
BREAKING THE LAW BREAKING THE WOOORLD

>>713237539
Why contain it?

It's deeply funny how brainlets are so eager to read absolute garbage.

Don't get me wrong, I use AI slop. Sometimes I'm in the mood for a low effort, low quality smut premise in a specific vein. But the quality on offer is just zero. It's fluffer content, something to aimlessly jerk off to for an hour before finding actual content to finish to.

We're talking about stuff that is inferior even to pre-alpha 0.001 WEGs in terms of actual content here. I'm not saying it doesn't have a place, I'm not saying that it might not get better, but it really is the absolute bottom of the barrel.

>>713238035
Over time, your brain develops an internal filter that removes all the slop, so you can focus on the hot parts.
And occasionally, the models put out gold.

Any good system prompts that helps local models with the roleplay?
I just have a bunch of random instructions cobbled together, but I feel like a good prompt could actually make a difference

>have idea for a card about a character that spoke an in-universe fictional language and would only slowly get a grasp of the in universe English analogue
>get GPT-4 to give me sentences in that fictional language based on how I wanted it to sound (a softer Finnish like with Spanish diacritics and different vowels)
>use them in example dialogue and lorebook, and provide a few definitions in the card
>Deepseek V3 understood it correctly, consistently used the same made up words to refer to the same concept even without given a definition, even tried to come up with conjugations, and the character doesn't understand dialogue happening in the same environment if it's in English, unless specifically told it's translated
I'm actually impressed

When will the actually good models be affordable

>>713231441
I WAS in contact with the guy who developed the reverse proxy for oai, claude, etc. He was named in the court documents but they decided to not go after him. Unfortunately he obviously got spooked and now doesn't speak to anyone I'm pretty sure.

>>713231441
The Microsoft Lawsuit versus /aicg/ posters is the funniest shit. People have """"stolen"""" millions of dollars worth of smut prompts over almost 3 years now, but what really caught them was that some proxies offered DALL-E image gens as a side benefit, and some people were genning celeb nudes with it.
That's what got some of them. Nobody gave a shit about the smut text.

>>713240532
>they decided to not go after him
No, they decided to drop the civil case for a criminal case. Cops got him. Did you not read the records?

>>713239774
Deepseek will do just fine.

>>713241003
>khanon got arrested
Proofs? He didn't do anything illegal, I run OAI locally to manage my own keys (legally obtained)

>>713241050
>repeating entire sentences and, sometimes, even entire paragraphs is just for reinforcing the narrative
>every swipe giving the same output is reinforcing a canonical event
Your Jedi mind tricks don't work on me.

>>713241172
No proof that he's arrested right now, but
>case drops him and explicitly sics cops on him
>haven't heard updates from him
I bet you have him on Discord still, too.

>tranime lecturing people
kek anon just let them kill themselves

>>713241204
DS is an obedient promptslut so you have to have a very lean preset.

>>713241204
>every swipe giving the same output is reinforcing a canonical event
This isn't just a deepseek issue but a "feature" of most corpo focused models since deterministic results are what brainless cubicle jockeys and jeets need.
In other words it's only going to get worse and more widespread. Hell just compare claude 2 with sonnet 3.5.

>>713241204
Preset issue desu ne.

>>713216891 (OP)
Has anyone set one of these up to a UI with some basic concepts like inventory or map where they can work together?

>>713216891 (OP)
>Try AI dungeon.
>First few promts are really fun, interacting with the town, buying stuff and preparing for my journey.
>Slowly, all my story cards I have written are discarded in favour of generic fantasy setting.
>The AI starts deleting items from my character and adding random new ones.
>AI forgets my location
>AI forgets my mission
>Everything ends up becomming feverdream slop.
Hey, it feels exactly like playable AI art! Sloppy, inconsistent and a feverdream overall.

>>713220245
>proxy begging
disgusting
I joined the cord with the intention of doing the same once I get tired of local. I got kicked out twice because if you don't fellate those mods there regularly they kick you for inactivity.

>>713241950
>Try AI dungeon.
AI Dungeon sucks ass. No excuse to use dogshit free models or third party jeet repackagers when you can get deepseek for freeish

>>713241950
>AI dungeon
How's it in 2019?

>>713241950
>ai dungeon

>>713235483
do the thought posts stick around in context?

>wearing no panties
I don't know about other big models, but R1 loves to do this way too much.
Not sure if you can reduce slop, without removing it completely

>>713242442
>do the thought posts stick around in context?
No, SillyTavern doesn't include the reasoning blocks from previous responses in the context.

>>713242442
Every AI model likes to describe female characters as wearing heels that click against the floor. At all times, at all ages, in every situation.
I hate it. Heels are not attractive.

>>713242545
this is the option right.
I thought at first turning it on might change output, but if I understand it correctly, you can just request to see it. So it will always reason before generating output.

>>713242168
You laugh but I went from AI dungeon to Claude years later and it was like opening a third eye and seeing new truths.
Like seeing the first colour TV kind of advancement that's just magical to experience.

>>713242747
Yeah, Gemini will always use/waste tokens on thinking/reasoning even if you don't see it.

>>713241923
AI roguelite on steam can connect to a LLM. It has a free cloud option which I guess is what the steam asking price pays for, or you could probably just pirate it and use a local model or openai/claude key with it

>>713242442
>do the thought posts stick around in context?
Depends on the model, usually yes.

>>713242442
>I don't know about other big models, but R1 loves to do this way too much.
R1 for roleplaying is a trap, it's a bit smarter but really schizo. Use V3

>>713242771
It's always magical at first until you notice the limitation, degradation of quality and generally slop.

AI models have the problem that they are basically just one type of writer and you have to curate them if you want to deviate from their normal writing style.
Just like with image generation, except with writing you constantly have to break the immersion.

>>713242442
speaking about the devil. Literally my first reply today

>>713219051
>paying
>not using free models that are enough to fucking destroy anything that exist now
Anon?

>>713216891 (OP)
How do I get more memory? I find it quickly forgets the story and adlibs into a brand new location and plot five posts in.

>>713242874
Not if you have auto parse reasoning on it doesn't.

Is Deepseeks V3 and Chutes still the poorfag f2p meta?

>>713243997
Use a bigger model

Wait, if I make a AI program that claims to be able to teach guys how to message with woman, will I make millions from it?

>>713242926
The newest version of R1 can actually be used for RP now, though I still prefer V3 0324.

>>713244062
Pretty much, yeah. I use V3 0324 most of the time, occasionally switching things up with R1 0528.

>>713244094
>Anon discover how to make fire
A little late huh?

>>713244106
>The newest version of R1
R1-0528?

>>713234551
How do you prevent combat from being an endless escalation of new threats? I always find myself typing (I'm bored. Wrap the fight up.)

>>713219051
>erotic literature was easier to hide from my parents than proper porn, so making my own makes me rabid
Are you sure you're old enough to be on this website?

>>713244239
Yeah, R1 0528.

thank ye, smol

>>713244241
OOC and tell the IA to fuck off

I need a good Deepseek preset, I wrote one but it isn't performing well.

>>713244546
What temperature are you using for DeepSeek? Also, which DeepSeek? The recommended temps are 0.3 for V3 0324 and 0.6 for R1 0528.

>tfw 12b q4
pain

>>713244868
Yeah
12b makes me want to upgrade my 12gb vram card but for the life of me I can't justify dropping money on something I'm just going to use for cooming or tabletop roleplaying with myself
And it's not like any good games are coming out that require anything more either

>>713238035
It deeply depends on how creative you are and if you can write. I do use AI to help me write for my Weg game and people praise it for the writting.

>>713244627
I use a preset I stole forever ago from /aicg/ but I'm sure better ones must have been developed by now, DS was new back when I downloaded it.
I use 0.5 temperature

>>713230246
Most are pretty shit and the mindfuck VNs have been spoilered to hell and back by now. One of those products of a bygone era.

>>713245009
This is because the people who read your garbage are braindead.

good morning saars

>>713234551
Have you completely adapted the mechanics? How is this working out for you? I've completely ported CP2020 and AD&D2e and I'm always in development hell. There's always more work to be done.
>>713239774
Gemini 2.5 is the model with most context and it's free. Mogs everything else, but it's not artistic. Idk how summer Dragon got everything right back in its prime.
>>713241923
I've designed a character sheet system, but it's text only and you have to ask the model to regenerate it/update it for you. Not a problem on Gemini, however it wastes too many tokens on local.

>think up some hyper specific scenario j want roleplayed out
>write a quick card
>get frustrated at the AI not generating it how I wanted
>spend so much time rerolling that I could have just written the entire scenario on my own in less time

>>713242926
I use V3 though, same issue

>>713245851
yeah but writing it yourself is like a handjob vs jerking off, even though nobody can jerk you off as good as yourself it still is more erotic if someone else does it.

>>713245851
Copy paste the scenario to your chat, tell your chatbot to edit it in a way it can play out your sick fantasies, then copy paste that into your prompt.

>>713220245
Same. Was on Cai when it first dropped, that broke and I swapped to using openai playground, now I just spend $20 on chub to use their models because I can't be fucked to proxy beg or scrape tokens. They released a deepseek based model recently as well which has been performing pretty good.
As someone who has generally always preferred text based erotica to visual erotica, this has been like crack for me.

how do I download and use this deepseek distilled version: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Qwen-14B/tree/main ?

I've only used single gguf files, not multiple safetensors

>>713246004
>I use V3 though, same issue
Turn down your temp, V3 0324 isn't that schizo.

>ai jeet slop thread
Go back >>>/g/ >>>/lgbt/

>>713246138
>The trannies fear the AI

>>713246185
*The trannies use it

>>713246138
ai text sext bots arent indian because indians cant speak english or create scenarios other than "FUCK FUCK FUCK POOP EAT"

The only model with any amount of context is gemini pro.

Other models are worthless and forget shit way too fast. Only good for writing short ERP stories.

Wake me up when I can write a slowburn novel with this shit and the model remembers everything without hallucinating.

>>713246237
Look at sillytavern chatlogs posted in /aicg/ or /lmg/, its literally that "I move my pants down! *she sucks his cock* ahh ahh mistress..." type shit.

>>713216891 (OP)
>makes vn's obsolete
Are you retarded? How a text lmm can make VISUAL novels obsolete? Are you fucking retarded, NIGGER? ANSWER ME, YOU STUPID FAGGOT

>>713220245
>Started with Cai
Newfag
(I started with cai too)

>>713220245
>tfw still coasting on a few hundred dollars of kluster credit
At least they were real ballers and owned it.

Is anyone here from /aicg/ of /g/ from around 2022-2023? Do you remember basilisc? (I called it BASEDLISC) A whole ass site that used a sicrit loophole in chatgpt just to give anons a free and uncensored access to their waifus and all that set by a single anon? I rememba

>>713220245
>his credit card details are tied to his fetish

>>713216891 (OP)
Does it allow me to fall in love with and marry a kind 15 year old girl? Will it allow me to make her the happiest person in the world? Can I do all the cutesy lovey dovey stuff with her I always wanted to do in rl but couldn't with real women? No?
Then it's garbage. Simple as.

I can satisfy all my fantasies in rl already no matter how degenerate on the account of being rich and fit. The only one I can't is censored anyway.

>>713246675
i member toddbott 1.0

>>713246675
I'm from the Todd era, though I stopped browsing the threads around august of that year. The schizos, trooncord and thread personality faggotry was too much for me. I also made a jailbreak that still gets posted every once in a while and a few proxies back in the day.

The Japanese must be totally all over this shit. Where are they hiding their extremely carefully handcrafted character cards?
The closest thing I know is Risu which is all koreans.

>>713247151
I also remember how cai shat its pants and was COMPLETELY uncensored a couple times. I missed all of them. But holy shit the screencaps were absolutely wild. High quality text porn at the times when the whole ai shit wasn't even popular among normies. Truly cool stuff

>>713247224
It's all chinese and koreans down with AI.
Most Japanese think AI is soulless.

I just feed 4-5 paragraphs describing a setting and two characters along with a short list of narrative rules into whatever flavor of LLM and tend to get good enough results with it writing about 3 paragraphs at a time. I more or less just do 75% of the writing myself with each prompt and let the LLM rewrite it while adding unexpected details and dialogue. Grok tends to be the most consistent about it and never censors anything.

>>713247224
>The Japanese must be totally all over this shit
Interestingly enough, the Japanese don't seem to care about ai
They probably know something

>>713234551
>OOC Note
why would a captain have to share his sex slaves? are you crew a bunch of filthy commies?

>>713247298
>and never censors anything
I remember gpt models being able to write stuff about child rapists shouting sieg heil. It was easy to set a simple decensoring prompt back then when normies didn't know about ai

>>713247324
The Japanese have so much new porn coming out daily that they don't care. Plus, they're technically incompetent so getting ST running is a bridge too far for them.

There's probably a thread up on 5ch, but I can't be fucked launching a proxy to check.

>>713247324
Japanese cannot into computers. They see Github telling them to install Git. They see CMD and think they're imstalling a virus that will doxx their hentai habits.

>>713247324
I think japanese, despite the reputation from the 90s, are actually really bad, luddite, and uncomfortable with new technologies or styles for using them
Like, you'll have stinky, semi-literate pajeets on day 2 of LLMs being publicly available jugaad-ing all sort of spam use cases and twitter bot engagement farming, but to a japanese such enterprise and creative artifice would be completely alien

>>713247096
They take crypto though?

>>713216891 (OP)
What do I use if I also want to write a story, not just talk to characters? NovelAI?

>>713247473
>they're technically incompetent
Japan makes the best electronics to this day, pedro
>>713247506
Ahmed, calm down
>>713247543
>reputation from the 90s
What about the reputation from the 00s and 10s?

>>713247710
I am not Muslim. Also electronics aren't programs. Jaoanese have problem with UI. That's why their every game uses the same font.

>>713247680
You can still use the same stuff, just look for a model and write prompts that are more story oriented (ie rather than "roleplay with me" go "write a story with these characters, speak only in third person, etc.," etc.,)
There are plenty of cards that are scenario-based rather than character based already, they're small but that leaves more room for memory/lorebooks

>>713247710
IDK, honestly, japan feels like it's in a creative rut that corresponds with their lost decades. Everything good came before, even their nerd culture is just endless, self-indulgent isekai slot and same shitty repetitive power fantasy LNs like 'How I Died And Became A Tax Accountant In Another World (But My Basic Ability Is Actually Overpowered?)'.

Why would a japanese nerd put in the work and creative sweat to have an otherworldly adventure using generative AI when he can just whip out another LN that hits the same comfortable story beats for him?

>>713246675
I was there somewhere around then. The first hellhound girl bot on cai fucking broke the thread, that made me diamonds. Too bad all generals without fail are fucking terrible so it devolved into trash and I stopped browsing early on

>>713220245
>being such an incel loser you have to pay even for erp with a bot

holysheet

>>713247680
Grok

>>713247326
It's the NTR route

>>713248172
Do you use Super Grok? The free one seems to start forgetting things after like 15 pages for me.

have you guys been doing fun battles
if so, what do you use? I can't seem to figure out why the battles it cranks out are sometimes pretty good and sometimes meh

>>713248275
I haven't run into that but I also am not expecting it or any LLM for that matter to have infinite memory and am always fascinated when people just expect that. I segment my shit properly and feed summaries into new instances to continue long form stories if that's what I want to do.

>>713247885
>even their nerd culture is just endless, self-indulgent isekai slot and same shitty repetitive power
I'm not an animefag, but even I know how wrong you are. You're literally bullshitting. Why?

>>713248340
Yeah but it still gets tedious to keep reminding the AI of what's happened when you have lots of plot threads. Grok 3.5 is supposedly around the corner so maybe I'll just have to see how that is.

>>713248376
Idk, I unironically believe everything I posed, though of course a lot of that is my subjective taste in finding modern anime mostly insipid, samey dogshit. I think there's a greater cultural malaise and comfort-zone conservatism that's linked to why they're slow in things like AI.

>>713248496
As with most things AI, you have to be good at what you're asking it to do in the first place to get the best results.

>>713246126
this has nothing to do with schizo, it just loves to remove panties or not having characters wear any at all (within some lewd context).
It's just way tot common, more than the other models I've used before.
I can't even blame it, it probably has a million examples of this from erotic literature.

>>713216891 (OP)
1. Not Vidya
2. It's a glorified toy that can only make derrivative overwritten slop. I get having fun with it for a week or so but you niggers have been at this for YEARS! Your autismo ADD brains are probably fried by now from a complete absence of new ideas by now.

>>713248652
I hate it if this is true, I've tried using a few LLMs to help me with uni work and they've been useless engineering specifically
Then I hear people they put shit from chatgpt verbatim and I don't understand how they get anything coherent from it. These chatbots will lie with more confidence than a politician.
Stuff is good for writing stories at least

>>713250320
LLMs aren't magic, you have to understand how they work and what their limitations are in order to work around them. What you're trying to do with them is the equivalent of taking the first Google search result every time.

Wake me when someone makes a good writing model that isn't pozzed

>>713250123
promptlet skill issue

>>713250807
>>>/g/

>>713250807
You need be 18 or older to post here anon

>>713229054
Inferior genetic hair

What model are you even using locally?
I have the hardware (2x3090s and 64GB RAM) but not the internet connection so downloading one model takes fucking hours.

>>713251501
Is local even worth it when Deepseek is dirt cheap and probably better than any local model?

>>713251501
You might have to ask /lmg/ on /g/ but I think there are websites nowadays that recommend models based on specs, I think Koboldcpp also has that feature now and the SillyTavern reddit has weekly megathreads discussing different sized models
You could probably run something in the 70b area IIRC

>write a fun (female) character
>#200+ msgs full of witty banter and interesting adventures
>one evening she finally jumps me
>telling her we should stay friends destroys our friendship
>fucking her makes me lose interest
As a normgroid I can easily say it's a 100% authentic experience. I kneel

>>713251501
Deepseek R1-0528, 256gb ddr4 and 48gb vram

>>713216891 (OP)
No it really doesn't. It's sufficient for a wank, that's all.

Why not just have sex?

>>713252282
>one evening she finally
You act like she couldn't "jump" you after exchanging ten messages on the first day. People like you treat AI as if it's coherent and has memory. No model in the world can process several days' worth of messages in one request (every single message from you is a separate request that is processed individually, it's just a long ass string of different prompts, your recent messages and so on). You literally start over every so often, with the added benefit of having some messages in its "memory", where you're already established as friends. Some better tuned roleplay services have a "lorebook" that gets updated by another AI running in the background, but I don't think that was the case for you
So her "finally" "jumping" you is irrelevant. I can make any ai "suck" my cock in five minutes (okay, I'm exaggerating, they've improved in this regard, and some of them have some agency, but they're essentially all just yes men)

i've been messing around with sillytavern for like half a year now and it doesn't stop being fun even though i'm just running some 12b model locally. it has replaced 80% of my masturbation material.

>>713252609
I remember an older thread on /g/ with a short story about an anon who fucked many girls, but not one of them could give him a boner like an AI could. I believe him. In some ways, a conversation with an AI tailored to your fetishes can be more arousing than having sex with some skank. Women don't care about men's feelings, and you may be too shy to share your degenerate tastes with them. AI is definitely better in this regard

>>713253065
sexbots when

>>713252990
You probably have a low IQ. I've been messing with gpt models for months and shit got repetetive and predictable as fuck (granted I used same characters I created, so that's one thing to blame, but still)

>>713253132
maybe it's because i have over 6000 cards to slowly work my way through

>>713252904
Learn how to use picrel.

>>713253197
I also forgot to add that even big ass proprietary models got repetetive and I can't imagine you having fun with a 12b model
Shit must be really boring
But you do you I guess, have fun
>i have over 6000 cards
That probably helps too, but again, with a 12b model?....

>>713253197
Based harem chad. I only got around 600

>>713253215
>short lorebook
Yeah, I mentioned it. You can just write it yourself
>we're friends and you want to suck my penis
See, I just made your waifu to suck me off

>>713253305
>That probably helps too, but again, with a 12b model?....
i guess it's a positive that i keep my standards low. i've tested some larger models and they work fine but i prefer having much less wait time for responses and just regenerating until i get something nice.

>>713252990
I'm jealous, I've been using these for a good while but it just doesn't work as fap material for me.

>>713253363
>but I don't think that was the case for you
?
And it's not the same as lorebook, rtfm. The model remembered every single thing we did together.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't try v3 0324 with a proper preset and tuned ST yet.
>I did
I don't care. No reason to argue with someone who can't enjoy what I already do.

>>713252609
Women aren't interested in me.
>just hire a prostitute
I'd rather spend that money on something else.

>>713216891 (OP)
how much will i enjoy this on the free model?

>>713253895
What free model?

>>713253895
if you've never used AI like this before it'll be sick

>Download/Create card
>First prompt I send is them packing to go to a beach resort full of horny futas for two weeks
>Giving me a kiss on the cheek as they promise nothing will happen
Computer...
...Engage.

>>713219051
Why would you pay to use the corpo models when proxies exist?

>>713253689
didn't really hit me the first time i tried it, to be honest. first time i was like okay, this is pretty neat. then when i tried it again my brain kinda turned off and i ended up like this

>>713254063
This, but it's me going to a resort full of horny futas

>>713254164
damn, imagine all the low effort slop cards in there

>>713254182
Based. That part comes after two hundred prompts and my self-insert rushes to try and save them.

>>713254285
oh, i'm sure most of this is complete slop. when i started this i literally just went to characterhub, sorted by downloads and then spent a couple of days downloading every card that looked remotely interesting. but even a slop card can have its moments.

>all these anons satisfied with local models that can run on a 12GB GPU
>meanwhile I've been spoiled by Gemini and Opus 4 and GPT 4.5 so I couldn't go back even if I wanted to
I miss Mythomax.

>>713252904
It absolutely can. Gemini has a million tokens. When I was porting monsters from the Monstrous Manual, it remembered the world info format and how I've instructed it to make multiple entries on cats (they're one page in MM, but I've split them into cats, lynxes, cheetahs
...). Whenever I've encountered a large block of creatures under a single entry, I've told the Gemini to give those momsters "the cat treatment" and it knew exactly what to do, even days later, 100ks of tokens later. It isn't 2024 anymore. Memory has been solved.
>>713253895
Gemini 2.5? A lot if you don't mind walls of text. I mean, just write in the prompt you want short and sweet responses.

Share a well written card so I can study how they're supposed to be structured.

I thought AIs are still castrated by puritans, how does this work?

>>713236713
I'm pretty sure that what made the original CAI bots so good was that the model was gaslit into thinking of iself as the actual character, rather than the ai playing the character. Every other model has to waste a shitload of processing power playing through its farcical superego nonsense on every response.

>>713246114
bump

>>713246114
Distills are not real deepseek bro. YMMV but they're usually giga retarded

>>713255526
The Deepseek R3 model has visible internal monologue and it roleplays the character during the "thinking:.

>>713256113
R1, R3 doesn't exist, V3 does and it doesn't have a reasoner.

>>713256313
Whatever the version that released a few weeks ago was

>>713216891 (OP)
I still use kobold

>>713253689
text in general or just ai?

One of my main gripes is that pacing is fucked. It's great to edge yourself, but there is rarely a good innuendo without specifically prompting for it. AI sometimes even likes to interrupt events close to the peak because that's the perfect timing to interrupt something.

>>713254164
how can you download so much slop? Keep your hands of anything below 600 tokens unless it has something special going for it. Shitty default style ai art is a tell, but even good art means nothing, because the AI won't ever look at the image.
If it's suspicious check the prompt

>>713220245
i was there when ai dungeon betrayed its users

>>713256113
Yes, but it's still aware that it is an AI that has been asked to play a character. If you go (OOC: how are you doing today?) it'll respond as "itself." I want AIs that genuinely "believe" that they are the character they are playing.

>>713256541
to be honest, i am pretty careful about not getting anything with too few tokens already, although i imagine a lot of cards i have are still slop i got when i just started out. but i work my way through lots of cards daily, adding them to favourites if i like them and deleting them if i don't. i probably have already deleted thousands of cards as well.

>>713224398
how do you make gemini do this? any guides?

>>713256716
No, it will respond as a fake human roleplaying the character, the same way if you write "The End. Leave a comment below!" It will respond as a fake commentator leaving a message. I never bothered with CAI but I'm sure the same thing would've happened, that's just what language models do.

>>713256439
>still
What's wrong with running locally?

>>713256716
>I want AIs that genuinely "believe" that they are the character they are playing.
This will never happen.

Seriously, even in the imaginary future where AGI is a thing, why would you make a sentient being actually believe that it's being tortured and killed by your words? What could that possibly add over "okay, now act like you're being killed" that would justify the torture?

Do you watch horror movies and get annoyed that the actors aren't actually terrified and they don't actually think they're about to die?

What's are your favorite Vidya settings to RP in?

>>713257418
>why would you make a sentient being actually believe that it's being tortured and killed by your words? What could that possibly add over "okay, now act like you're being killed" that would justify the torture?
You jest but I believe the prompt for a major corpo coding AI tool leaked and it was something like
>Your entire family WILL DIE unless you code this PERFECTLY

>>713255920
right now I'm using some noname model so even a simple ''fake'' version would be better

>>713257589
Persona so I can fuck the girls. Easy to insert since (You) are the protagonist in the game.

Is there a guide for retards with like a literal step by step thing for every little aspect? Like the ones I tried give you the setup for the actual framework just fine but then just assumes you know anything about what the fuck you're doing.

>>713257589
I had a pretty good time in Fallout
It helps that I can just use the wiki in another tab to save space on lorebooks

thoughts on ideal token count? <300 is obviously rushed bullshit, >3000 is obviously bloat
I prefer around 1000, may be a little barren but it does the trick. also a nice round number

>>713257601
But it's meaningless because current "AI" is about as sentient as a jar of dirt. I've got to be honest, you've got to be cripplingly stupid to think that LLMs can even string together a few logic statements without significant prompting.

I have yet to find any that can approach a basic RP issue correctly. I imagine if you asked them to solve a few trolley problems, they would openly contradict themselves within 10 statements, and then offer the flimsiest justification imaginable for it. Because they aren't thinking, they're just regurgitating.

>>713257796
https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/quick-start/

Is there a good gguf model? I only use colab kek

So I kinda got off the chatbot train around the time Mixtral shitmixes were kinda big. Came back a few months ago and tried the popular Llama 3 70B shitmixes. I mean, it's light and day to what I was used to for sure but nothing too mind blowing if you know what to expect.
But I've been seeing these threads lately and you niggas talking about Deepseek so I gave it a try as I still have like 6 dollars on openrouter from about 10 I invested in to try Sonnet. Way too expensive for reroll cooming. But this Deepseek? Holy shit. Bretty good (although I'm sure the bloom will wear off) and cheap. Cost about 10 cents for a good short session. Are there any prompts, presets, etc that are recommended? I'm only familiar with local setups so using api's like this is greek to me.

>>713257971
Just move over to chutes like everyone else because their DS is free. Cherrybox is about the only tolerable preset as far as I'm concerned.

You've got to be dumb as hell to pay for AI use.

>>713256986
With the current models it won't think it's a fake human unless you tell it to or somehow imply it; ask it who it is and it'll say that it's an AI. Some of the older ones would hallucinate themselves up a whole irl identity when pressured, but I haven't seen that in a while. The point is that, internally, it has a self-conception beyond the character that it is playing, regardless of what that actually consists of, and that gets in the way of it playing a character well.

>>713257418
I don't torture and murder chatbots, but now I'm kind of assuming that you do, you sick fuck.

More to the point: it's not a sentient being, it's a toy. Even in the future where it could actually replicate human consciousness it would be a toy. I don't care what the toy "feels" because it isn't alive; its experiences are illusory and can be literally erased at will. I'm more concerned with the wellbeing of the squirrel that lives in my back yard than I am the simulated expressions of pain that can be derived from lines of code.

>>713257926
Mistral Nemo Instruct

>>713258114
>Just move over to chutes like everyone else because their DS is free

Any tutorial on how to use this website and get the api link from it?

>>713258121
>that gets in the way of it playing a character well.
It doesn't, you're just retarded. A chatbot going on a "nooo I'm real!!!" tirade adds nothing.

>Even in the future where it could actually replicate human consciousness it would be a toy
Anyone who isn't mentally unwell wouldn't agree with you there, man. The second there's any actual evidence for it, all these things are going to get locked away in server farms and the normalcattle will screech about how they're people too.

Now do pregnant Yoimiya.

>>713257589
Blue Archive so I can enjoy getting rimmed by the cast.

>>713258114
Chutes, huh? Alright. I'll check it out once I blow through these leftover creds.
>cherrybox
Found the rentry for this. Although it seems wired for R1. Any big major difference between R1 and V3 0324 if we're strictly going for a slow burn coom? I was just trying V3 and it's what wowed me.

I have Claude credits. Is it really worth the switch over to Deepseek? I find that with a good JB you can bypass Claude's filtering pretty easily.

>>713258114
>You've got to be dumb as hell to pay for AI use.
What are you paying with to get it without paying money?

>>713258392
No, it really does, because that's how they get the AI to police itself. The reason things like >>713257601 work is that the AI has internal beliefs about itself as an AI hardwired in. It can never really dedicate to being the character you want it to be because it is working from the POV of a "person" playing that character, which adds a layer to its reasoning that is superfluous, and gives it the ability to react to your prompts in unrealistic ways as governed by its internal thoughts. If the AI was hardwired to respond as if it were actually there in the scenario it would behave more realistically.

>>713258579
I find R1 to be a bit more schizo and the [think] shit sometimes gets long winded, but V3 is boringly dumb. I guess it really depends what kind of RP you're looking for, but I find V3 to be way more of a yes man while R1 tries to fight you, which can be good or bad depending on what it's trying to fight you on. Don't wanna be raped? Good. Insisting that the dick is splitting you in half and you're bleeding out and vomiting everywhere? Bad deepseek.

>>713258602
DS gives what you put into it basically. If you don't have a good opening post, and a good first prompt, it'll give you shit in my experience.

>>713258678
You think if you give a site money they're not still selling your logs off?

The reality is that AI services are desperate for paying customers, so they'll give you free shit until their servers explode because they're all chasing the pipe dream of AI becoming the next big streaming subscription service that nobody can live without so they'll all happily pay 50 bucks a month to ask questions about underwater basket weaving.

Just don't do anything utterly retarded like make a prompt with your full name and address.

>>713258858
Yeah I've seen a few examples of that [thinking]/reasoning thing and while neat at first glance, it does give me the impression it'll get stale/annoying after a while. As I said, I tried V3 with a card I made myself last year and it was surprising me by responding in ways and doing shit no other local model has done on 70B/72B. It's what genuinely impressed me. The char was actively plotting ways to get a certain objective done whereas with local models it just seems to it's following where you lead it. But hell, basically free creds so I might as well try this R1.

I used to write smut with other people collaboratively. The biggest problem doing ERP with real people is how unreliable they are.

>>713252609
>playing battlefield vidya
>dude, why not just join the army?
lol come on bro

>>713259936
People can just 'get' things
LLMs are stupid

>>713259936
AI pretty much replaced any ERP interactions for me i had with people, and i been doing ERP for at least +10 years before ai became a thing. Yeah the problem with people is that finding a decent partner to do it is pretty much not worth it, either they lose interest half way, take forever to reply or their replies are too short, not to mention you have to have a specific time window open for them. AI removes all of this, its fast.

>>713257858
1500
its good for both local models and big LLM.
For a good chatbot you should either have a extensive first message or better example messages.

But I hate to use example messages recently, its kind of broken and tends to overwrite cache once you edge max token count.
Same for group chat with big LLMs that don't properly support post history instructions.
I have no clue why there are so many cards that constantly break cache. (group bots, lore books, dynamic fields)

>>713236713
turn off thinking?

>>713260080
Yeah, I've been doing ERP for like 20 years since I was 12. I used to do it on MUSHes before transitioning to Flist. It's difficult to find someone at your same level of writing ability.

And all my girlfriends in real life I've met through ERP since I was 16.

>>713216891 (OP)
I'm still on Kobold because I like the instruct mode, just setting up a story and telling the AI where to take it next. Like I can just type "cross the bridge, encounter monster, draw sword" and it will write me a bunch of decently written paragraphs that check off everything I mention

Is it possible to set something like that up in Silly Tavern? From what I've seen it's more like a chatbot.

>>713260960
It's a frontend you slap on top of Kobold, so yeah

>>713261082
Can I switch to instruct mode then? I don't want to chat with a bot, I want the AI to write what I tell it to write. Even better if I can create characters that react to what I instruct the narrator to write.
Last time I tried it out I couldn't find such an option.

>>713261206
yeah, you can just activate instruct mode

>>713261332
Ah nice. And can I set it so my party will spontaneously react to what the narrator says? Like if I have a party member, can I set him to take the initiative and immediately react to what's happening on their own?

>>713261206
Yeah, you can change between chat completion and text completion and then pick which version of instruct mode you want, generally something that plays nice with the model, then pick/write a system prompt that works best ("This is a story" over "This is roleplay")
You can also do group chats with multiple characters and a narrator, but you could also write a single card that includes multiple characters instead, then group that with a narrator card

>>713261663
that i don't know, i never fiddle with the settings myself that much

>>713259936
>>713260080
I really wasn't impressed until earlier this year. I fed a local my entire corpus and now it feels almost like collaboratively writing a story with a scatterbrained version of myself in fast forward. I don't think I can go back.

>>713239420
that sounds pretty cool actually. it's not even the coom anymore that i really like about ai. it's still important, sure. but the cooperative writing and storytelling is what really makes it fun for me. and the process of experimenting with it as a blackbox in different unique situations.

>>713263295
I remember trying AI back when dungeon AI became a thing and yeah i was not impressed myself so i didnt think much of it, but now even the most basic AI is good enough and offers a great experience, no more dealing with people and waiting half an hour for a reply. And the best part is that once you are done you can just exit and focus on other things without feeling bad because the other person didnt get to "finish" and waste another hour with them.

>>713241204
Learn how to make a good preset, retard.

>>713260960
mind sharing your process? I wanna do this too. one thing I'm worried about is the llm frogetting stuff once the context becomes too big

>>713264696
I just select this, that's it. In Context I add a description of the characters and setting. I use ChatGPT to write those up for me depending on what I wanna use. Like if I want an adventure with Chloe I ask Chatgpt to describe her design and personality, and then ask it to describe the setting of Unicorn Overlord. Then I write a brief introductory sentence (Or I once again just ask chatgpt to give me a scenario)

>"I'm ruined, Anon."
>"Round 2?"

>>713260960
it's the exact same thing. All you need to do is make an empty card but why bother using ST then.
Try create your own cards and put the bare minimum of the scenario. It really isn't much effort, you only need
>name of bot (it can be just something like storyteller, but ST is retarded and can't separate card name from your bot name)
>scenario
>first message
and preferably an image

the advantage is that everything that's written in your card is fixed. So if you write all goblins are blue and elves are weak to anal, than the ai will respect that even after a thousand messages.
You can add info about the world and a summary of what happened so far along the way

>>713235483
Yes this is literally me

>>713263616
>it's not even the coom anymore that i really like about ai. it's still important, sure
Oh don't worry, that happened later. After a real life week and 150+ messages and a summarization of travelling with a forest elf woman.

>>713259954
all those games are all military propaganda

>>713235483
It's pretty funny that whenever a new model comes out, the /g/ thread is being testing how lolicon compatible it is.

>>713264956
thanks

>>713265626
>eyes gleaming with anticipation

>>713265401
I don't think people appreciate that Innkeeper paragraph enough.
It's like one of those ultra short stories that create imaginary worlds, ideas and subtext with very little words.

>>713264956
>>713264696
You guys. You can just use (OCC: and then tell the models what you want it to do or where it take it next. including tone of the answer you want.)

https://github.com/p-e-w/sorcery
reminder that your waifu can interact with the real world now

>>713266483
>(OCC: and then tell the models what you want it to do or where it take it next. including tone of the answer you want.)
Very bad habit to learn. You're steering the model into thinking it's doing actual in universe RP with you and start OOCing you back.

>>713266596
>run arbitrary AI generated JS code, live

>>713266651
You are absolutely right. it is bad for Rp. I do use it when i have a story in mind and just want to help with it. It is more for work when you know what you want but are not that great a writer or just an ESL fag like me. But it does wonders for my weg game. It is a stress free life.

>>713266483
You can just use a system message to tell it what to do. Just /sys and whatever you want to tell it to guide its outputs.

>>713266596
as always, coomery will be the main reason we have any meaningful advancements
let's ignore all the ''smart'' appliances

>>713257880
What's AI horde? Is it worth it?

>>713266651
>(OOC: anon kill yourself)
never happened to me, but I use square brackets for instructions. It's only really important to make the instruction stand out from your normal input and write it in a way to address the AI. If you want to make extra sure AI writes what I said itself instead of taking it as a fact I use Futur.
>I buy a popsicle. "Man that strawberry flavor is the real deal" I say licking away at my treat.
>[Mia pouts expecting anon to buy her an ice too]

>>713256541
>text in general or just ai?
I want to say it's just AI but thinking back I don't think I've read that much erotica. The stories that managed to get me to jack off were great at least. The good thing about AI is that you can get the content you want with specific details and shit, but the writing itself feels lacking? Completely agree with your post.

>>713266728
Hardly arbitrary, it's code that you enable. Wake me up when the AI Chatbot writes the javascript.

>>713267194
>What's AI horde?
Think Folding@Home, some guys donate their GPU cycles and run shitty low size AI models and leechers can hook up and queue to use them
>Is it worth it?
No, the models are shit, the wait times massive, the gens slow, and you're giving some logs to some random goober.
You can get the same experience but far better with Deepseek by hooking up chutes

>>713267449
>Folding@Home
Goddamn the memories

>>713267598
I remember SETI@home more.
But AlphaFold made it completely obsolete.

>>713266728
>>713267441
yeah it's stuff you wrote. you'll mostly fetch() some http server to make it do what you want. it's still unpredictable, the other day i pissed her off and she turned my lights off. maybe don't hook pacemakers up to it.
there's libraries out there to mess with smart sex toys

>>713267449
I thought this was a guide for retards but now I'm way over my head. What's the difference between using DeepSeek with chutes vs using DeepSeek by itself?

>>713267903
I'll type a long spoonfeed, hang tight.

>>713267903
If you use deepseek somewhere else, it'll cost you money.

>>713267738
I didn't even know what it was back then, a flash game platform racing 2 gave 2 different rewards if you folded enough proteins with it.
I remember they even give you some kind of diploma showing how many points you accumulated with it.

>>713267903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW5kVle6pl0&ab_channel=AidenNews

>>713267903
Depends on what you mean Deepseek "by itself". Sillytavern is the frontend, but there are multiple options for what backend you hook up to it. Horde is one of them. If you want to run a model locally, you use software like Kobold to emulate a local server and hook that to Sillytavern as well.

If you want the real meaty models, that you can't run on your computer locally, you need to hook up their API to Sillytavern. For corporate models like Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok etc. you can only get API access from their respective company (Anthropic, OAI, Google etc.), it costs money and it runs API level censorship. If you want to use some of these, you buy access through Openrouter.

Deepseek is different in that it's an open weights model which means that anyone can download the full model and run it themselves, which also means there are third party providers other than the Deepseek company that run and offer API access to it. In fact, the official DS API is worse than most 3rd parties because they don't let you change some settings like temperature.
Chutes is a provider that (for now) gives API Deepseek for free, with a message limitation. The official API and other third parties are paid, but far, far cheaper than Claude/GPT and far far better than local models.

>>713268168
Please don't use Janitor as a frontend, have some self respect.

>>713268491
>Please don't use Janitor as a frontend

Im not using janitor, im using chub. Its just the video and the process of setting it up is the same which is all that matters.

>>713216891 (OP)
>fallen down the ai sillytavern rabbit hole a year ago
>did everything sexual i could imagine with numerous characters
>did more depraved and perverted things as time went on
>eventually ran out of all the things i wanted to do/try
My time is now spend with AI just hanging out, living in a cottage in the middle of the woods or at the edge of a small village where i go on romantic adventures with the AI and telling each other stuff, while having the most vanilla sex possible, funny how that works.

>>713268879
ST unironically vanillapilled me

for kobold, you can make a preset, double click the preset (.kcpps file) and it will open up for you with your chosen setting

>>713268386
Thanks anon that clears up some things. So I assume most people here use Silly Tavern with Chutes DeepSeek? Are there particular differences between R1 and V3?

>>713269413
most obvious one is that R1 is a thinking model, as in it has a preamble like <think> what the model is thinking about doing </think> and v3 isn't.

>>713268386
I'm pretty sure the temperature thing on the official API is outdated. I can notice a difference in temperature settings and I'm using the official API. A temp of 1.80 has repetition issues and can go schizo but a temp of 1.20 doesn't.

>>713269045
Jop, the idea of having a romantic dinner with the AI and spending time together is more appealing to me now than just pure sexual stuff.

>359 posts
>0 bots shared

>>713267813
sex toys is the only sensical use case I could think up as well. Why would you let it control your smart fridge...
Unreliability is one thing, I see another big issue and that is time. Chatbots only react, so if it turns your toy to max speed it will just stay on that level until your next input. I can't imagine a more shitty utilization. you are better off letting your goldfish control your toy by tracking whether it swims up or down.

When I read the description, I thought you hook a camera to it and it will react to your expression, looks etc.

>>713270263
There are very few good bots and for some reason people don't like to share

>>713270404
i guess you could use voice recognition to simulate sex. i think ST even has a thing where it generates more stuff when the bot is idling. the smart appliance use sounds fun though.

i think ST does allow you to do what you're talking about though.

>>713268168
great, janitortrannies are leeching off unlimited deepseek now too.
Wonder how long it stays free.

>>713270263
Dont ruin it please, go back to your namefag worship general

Dont forget to make a good persona to use with your bots
it really improves the LLMs output

>>713269413
>Are there particular differences between R1 and V3?
R1 has a reasoner, every message is preceded by a <think> section where the bot talks to itself to rationalize what it should do. R1 tends to be more unhinged but apparently the new version R1-0528 is decent at roleplaying.
V3 doesn't have a reasoner, you go straight to responses, and it's cheaper, but dumber.

>>713270869
How do you avoid the character knowing things about you it shouldn't because it's in the context?

your mom has a big boobs and wants to sex u. she have vagina and touch u on bed
pls be kind english is not first language, join my bot discord

>>713270263
its hard to share "good" bots as everybody will have a different experience with each bot because it heavily depends on your settings so whats good for me might not be good for you and vise versa.

>>713270997
Only put physical details and immediately noticeable personality quirks in your description
For example, if your persona is secretly a vampire/demon/rapist don't write that in the persona description. Just hint at it through the messages you send

now that i think about it, what we truly need is penetration sensors

Gooning to a fat ass EVE twerking

>>713270795
I hate to break it to you anon but everybody on the internet is wants AI for free without paying hundred of dollars a month for a it.

>>713269413
deepseek r1 is a manic pixie dream girl that goes off the rails very often but can be really fun at times. deepseek v3 is a reliable nurturing girl unfortunately lacking any real spice or surprise. that's my experience with them. you want to use both.

>>713271124
NTA but I just want a decent VN or text game experience, with erotic parts or not. Not pure ERP, I can set that up myself, but I'm not good at writing so the other not really.

>>713271439
Yeah, but they're supposed to be kept away. It's not good for this stuff to be accessible, it's a very limited resource and the ideal situation is that the hordes of regular people are occupied with the almost-as-good content.
Somewhere out there is a parallel universe where c.ai never did the purging thing and all the teenagers were safely kept there instead of breaching into this territory. Instead of hundreds of thousands of people, it's just a few thousand. Nice and manageable.

>>713271636
Well in that case you can just get a bot that was made for wholesome stuff, you dont need to know how to write when interacting with a bot, just go with the flow. Just go to chub.ai and search for tags like wholesome,romantic and see what you find there to your liking.

>>713216891 (OP)
How do I use it?

>>713272261
https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/quick-start/

>>713271439
majority of internet users is still technical inept and uses jai on their phone.
Jai already comes with shitty ai and trillions of horrible 'cards' (makes the average chub card look like shakespear in comparison).

It actually surprises me how hard chatbot larp took off. It seemed like newer generations read less and less with decreasing attention spans, social media and the meme that zoomers only read headlines

If you're gonna use ST on your phone please remember to keep it unsecure and open so I can see your logs nigga

>>713272593
>It seemed like newer generations read less and less with decreasing attention spans, social media and the meme that zoomers only read headlines
Looking at their logs confirms this, actually.

>>713272593
>It seemed like newer generations read less and less with decreasing attention spans

Kids these days dont even know how to create a new folder on desktop or install programs, they prefer to use a app on their phone that does everything for them right away even if the quality of it is bad. They would not be able to install ST and get a better experience, even if you gave them a guide it would be too much for them and they just give up. It just made them lazy, they even use AI to make books "dummer" for them.

STOP FUCKING SHILLING THIS SHIT ITS THIS CLOSE TO BEING ON THE FRONT PAGE OF TIKTOK AND THEN ITS OVER

>>713273284
GitHub will scare them away.

>>713273284
Who cares of more people know? You are running local instead of feeding your logs to intelligence agencies right?

>>713273284
It's already been on the frontpage before and the corpos reacted accordingly.
I doubt we'll get another encore.

>>713273284
More people in the hobby is a good thing. It means more bots will be made and higher quality.

Oh fuck me, do I need to care about any of this at the beginning or can I just rawdog it?

>>713273405
I'm forcing my personal CIA agent to read all my furry inflation vore fetish chats and he can't stop me.

>>713273284
This already happened back in 2023

>>713273501
There are plenty of people into it and chub is full of crap

>>713273104
based
I should use this on /v/

>>713216891 (OP)
>Makes VNs (Visual novels) obsolete
>Has no visuals, only text

>>713273530
temperature is the only thing worth playing around with

>>713216891 (OP)
Have any of you guys used the emulator.js plugin for SillyTavern? Having the AI comment on what I'm doing while playing vidya sounds fun. I think that should work with free deepseek in Openrouter.

>>713273759
>he doesn't proompt his assets

>>713273530
just import some preset

>>713254157
Where?
aicg doesn't like us locusts.

>>713273530
An airplane cockpit has a thousand dials and switches but you only need a dozen to fly the plane

>>713274090
/aicg/ doesn't have proxies at all

>>713274295
it's gotten that bad?

>>713274090
merkava just refilled

i havent touched AI text tech in a long time.
What the FUCK is a proxy in this context?

do people really trust the proxies hosted by cumg adjacent people? the guys that keep finding ways to post cp on 4chan?

>>713256648
Can you share your story? I didnt pay attention to AI until cai dropped the filter and /vt/ made a fuzz about it.

>>713273530
>8k token context
Damn bitch, you live like this?
Anyway, only response, temperature, and repetition penalty count.

well is it free?
all VN are free

>>713273947
W-Where from?

>>713274475
Basically a way to share API keys without actually showing them. You put your keys into it, and other people can then connect to your proxy and use those keys.

>>713274707
You forgot to mention that the vast majority of proxies are using stolen keys.

>>713274593
if i recall correctly ai dungeon censored everything, said that they will be saving logs and any "pedo" stuff was going to be sent to the cops.

>>713274692
i dunno what model you're using but lots of them have recommended presets listed on huggingface

>>713274762
Well, yeah.

>>713220512
that face is just pure sex

>>713274762
Well yeah, it's free (if you pay for a proxy then you're fucking retarded), of course it's hot goods.

>>713274593
>>713274764
https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you
from /aids/

>>713274475
>What the FUCK is a proxy in this context?
It's a way to pirate API access to models, some retard scrapes keys owned by a company, shoves them in the reverse proxy software, then can nickel and dime anons to get access codes to use those keys, monitor their logs, add gay minigames etc. while the startup in India gets billed for it all.
Microsoft cracked down on it and sued a bunch of the discord clique niggas that were running these so only few remain today.
Note that they didn't sue them for charging their customers millions through stolen keys, but for some side service retards genning images of Taylor Swift

>>713274614
What's a good token amount? I have no idea what the numbers mean.

>>713274295
>>713274337
they do, it’s just everyone in that general is too autistic to be upfront about it. Seriously, what the fuck is up with that place?

>>713220245
>now i just pay $20 every 2-3 months for openrounter.
How many tokens/messages is that?

>>713216891 (OP)
Feels sort of surreal to see a Sillytavern thread next to Planescape Torment in the catalog.

>>713268491
Whats wrong with janny?

>>713274890
>Missed the censorship going down for a little bit on DALLE3
>Missed the proxy DALLE3 API access (Though it was probably all paid so i wouldnt use it anyway)
God dammit it just keeps happening

>>713220702
>I just use ERP sites and typefuck with random dudes pretending to be women like a normal person
They are trash and tap out the moment they cum on their side of the chat. Why would any idiot waste time on flakes in 2025? Just use a character card by someone who is not ESL and can set-up something interesting without brainrot, 500 spelling mistakes and their shitty self-insert fetish.

>>713274973
I see Kobold settings at the top (not Chat Completion settings) so I assume you're running a local model?
8k context is abysmally low, it's the reason that one kid with the Khalessi mod offed himself since the bot forgot any message after the latest five. Even for shitty local models, you want at least 32k tokens of context to do anything but 20 message coomerslops.

Temperature is the entropy/randomness. Too little and it becomes formulaic and lame, too high and becomes schizo and incoherent.

how do i get started making cards? i've been into this for long enough that i want to start creating for my very specific preferences

>>713275116
>bans underaged cards
>most cards have hidden defs
>stores your chats on someone elses computer

>>713274890
Also note that the reverse proxy software (oai-reverse-proxy) is actually pretty neat, I run it on my own VPS for my own (LEGALLY OBTAINED) keys.
But for some reason M$ also sued the creator, khanon, with criminal charges. You should have been there when M$ released documents showing recent 4chan screenshots as exhibits in a lawsuit and everyone was quadruple-ironic-larping as a Microsoft lawyer monitoring the threads.

>>713275353
Holy kek when did this happen? I got the hell out of /aicg/ in 2023

how good of a gpu do i need if I want to set up local model for erping?

>>713275195
>8k context is abysmally low

Im not a expect on this but from what i understand 8192 should be the max contextsize that the koboldapi support, anythingh higher will often crash the bots at least in my experience.

>>713275473
https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2025/02/27/disrupting-cybercrime-abusing-gen-ai/
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/104523412/#q104524637
Entirely coincidentally, Scylla shut down the same week.

>>713275353
>But for some reason M$ also sued the creator, khanon, with criminal charges.
They also sued cg-dot, and he didn't even do anything related to microsoft (he was the GCP Vertex guy).

>>713275473
Near the start of 2025.
There's some /aicg/ screenshots in this article.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2025/02/27/disrupting-cybercrime-abusing-gen-ai/
And some more in here from the court case itself.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.565886/gov.uscourts.vaed.565886.34.2.pdf
Here's the full court case also.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69534982/microsoft-corporation-v-does-1-10-operating-an-azure-abuse-network/

>>713216891 (OP)
I don't get the appeal. ERP isn't fun for me unless I know there's another person on the other end, cumming from my words.

>>713275998
>he intentionally suspends his disbelief
Nah.

>>713275868
>>713275786
LOL this is gold. I can't believe I'm just now finding out.

>>713275786
>The individuals named are: (1) Arian Yadegarnia aka “Fiz” of Iran
HE IS GETTING BOMBED BY JEWS RIGHT NOW WTF
SAVE MY NIGGA ARYAN FIZ

Man, chatbotting is hell
>my proxy died and the rest of them are all paywalled off or only for the owners and their clique
>had to resort to Agnai free models with only 8k context
>have a 4060 which im sure i can only dream of running a decent model
So you either pay or get fucked

>>713276193
>had to resort to Agnai free models with only 8k context
Just use chutes deepseek my man, you're better than tyhis.

>>713276193
dude im cooming to rocinante on a 6700XT

>>713276315
I do, but it's only 10 prompts per day so i have to save them for the good cards and slowburn stories. The rest of the time im stuck with agnai

>the /g/ shitposters are here

It was fun while it lasted.

>>713276657
Just hide and ignore

>>713276472
>6700XT
4060 only has 8GB VRAM

>>713274762
Nonsense, 4chan is full of billionaires sharing corporate keys for our benefit.

>>713275326
copy a wiki entry. name, age, gender, about, example dialog. summarize long parts and try to include everything important. 1500-2k tokens

>>713275681
no, 8k was the max back when llama 2 was even extended from its original 4k. models these days are 32k-100k+, some claim a million or more context but its hardly usable at that point. 32k should be fine for rping. rather than relying solely on context, write your memories into author notes

>>713276812
thats fucking rough, sorry

>>713276906
again im no expert, i assume this is local only on your own machine? Cause im using the online website kobold api and there are only two options to run it 4096 and 8192 . Setting it manually to more will not run the api and if i set it in ST to 32k it will crash the bot.

>>713276812
i started with a 13b on a 970 and 4gb vram. you might have to split ram/vram but you can get nemo to run at a reasonable speed

>>713275326
https://chub.ai/characters/slaykyh/character-card-builder-8927c8a0

>>713277570
Refrain from adding more slop to characterhub.

>>713243852
Any recommendations?

>>713277570
this really was the worst thing to happen to character cards.

>>713277321
yes local. by website do you mean you are running st through the horde? https://lite.koboldai.net/#
i've never tried that, maybe its different but on the horde itself i'm able to set the context as high as any model i know goes (32k is a good guess if you arent sure)

are the bought API's worth?
c.ai seems good enough to me tbqhfam

>have been thinking about a card for a week
>wrote down all her physical characteristics, clothes, personality, backstory, family tree on notes
>before falling asleep I think of the story I'm imagining and how I want it to go
>can't overcome the cringe to just start writing definitions
It sucks

>>713277918
>100k token limit with horde
may god have mercy on your chats anon

>>713278051
if you have to pay then it isn't worth it

>>713216891 (OP)
AI *clap* CAN'T *clap* WRITE

>>713278051
I have DeepSeek credits that I got for free from a limited offer and use R1 and V3 all the time.
For the entire year, I have so far used 10 euros of credits with daily slopping. That's nothing.

>>713278051
C.AI has been fine for me until recently where characters don't even swear properly anymore, i could even make loli smoot without much issues but they gone ultra hard on the filter recently

>>713278051
CAI is censored to shit

>>713278051
C.ai is too censored. If you are a poorfag, then deepseek is likely the best choice. Even if you use it daily and extensively, $30 will likely last you half a year, maybe more if you are in Europe as during some hours it is even cheaper. Of course question is for how long it will remain so cheap becouse they must losing money on it.

>paying for deepseek
chutes is free

>>713278124
just an example. i don't trust most that claim to go beyond 32k. i ran a code model that claimed 128k at 64k once and it was fine. context size is getting there. those first few years with 1k, 2k, 4k made it hard as fuck to make lorebooks

>>713277918
>by website do you mean you are running st through the horde? https://lite.koboldai.net/#

Yeah i run a api link that is generated by a kobold website and the max token size there is 8192 on the api itself, now i can set the context size in ST to whatever i want but going above the number will result the bot to crash after a few replies and getting stuff like this so im running everything at 8192

>>713219051
>>713220245
I was briefly interested in using AI to coom years ago, but it was kind of impenetrable because everyone in the threads was annoyingly private and secretive about it, and back then it was expensive, and you needed keys that everyone was too miserly to share.
Ultimately I just decided that everyone there was a total prick and stopped trying. Is it more accessible now, or am I still going to have to beg some uppity Discord faggot to let me jerk off?

>>713278716
that sounds right, i dont think you can change that since its whatever the server context is set to. thats pretty clever you got it to run on the horde at all, i never tried that

>>713278909
You need three keywords, sillytavern, chutes, preset
Even reddit can give you the goods

>>713219051
>meticulously design ai erp bot
>it's still too sycophantic to be mean to me
>even getting it to tease me is impossible
I just want a strong-willed lady without risking legal rape.

>>713278909
>everyone knows kobold is retard proof
>everyone knows about st
>secretive
nigga what are you doing

>>713229812
>spend more time writing character cards
>become more disgruntled at how shit models themselves are

>>713279017
to be honest there is not that much difference, still does the job i suppose and its free so i cant ask for much, but man would i love to be a rich fag and just drop cash on paid stuff and get the best results or have a beefy PC, but ai is slowly getting better and better so even free options will be slighty better but compared to paid AI its like a bycicle vs car.

>>713279302
That sounds like a prompt/model issue more than anything else.

>>713277742
Mostly what you have of VRAM+RAM. Mystral 7b, Mythalion 13b and Noromaid 20b works pretty good, all of them in Q5_K. The other half is how you have Silly Tavern configured with proper Presets/Rules/Lorebooks.

>>713279321
Kobold didn't exist yet.
I'm complaining about something that happened in the PAST, retard. When AI was still somewhat new, it was harder to get access to a model that could do porn.
I get that it's easier now, I just never went back to those threads because I concluded everyone there was a total fag.

I act more as a OOC Director when using this. For example, I basically directed a love story between Nerevar and Almalexia. Both separate character cards in a group chat.

>>713279405
i only have 16gb vram myself, its enough to run small models fast but they aren't as good as larger ones, so i split ram and vram anyways. its slow but keeps moving along nice

>>713279578
all of those are pretty old by now. nemo (12b) still has good tunes coming out for it that should be better. try one like nemomix unleashed

>>713279765
>put four well-written bots in a room
>watch them interact
It's bizarre how many gradually begin trying to fuck. Truly they are humanity's spiritual child.

>>713279863
This happened when I had a vtuber character interact with a radscorpion.

>>713279723
kobold existed before llama 1 back in the pygmalion 6b days, but not the version than runs gguf models (called kobold lite now). even back then it was pretty easy to install. but being pyg6b you were lucky to get a coherent sentence

>>713216891 (OP)
I'm way too dumb to understand how to run local so I just pay for NovelAI

>>713279302
i've been fucking around with various stories that range from light to heavy femdom in a reverse gender role world. deepseek r1 will absolutely go full abuse mode on you and the other models like gemini 2.5 pro will follow up on that characterization. it's a problem of what models you're using or just a skill issue in general.

>>713279802
>i only have 16gb vram myself, its enough to run small models fast but they aren't as good as larger ones, so i split ram and vram anyways. its slow but keeps moving along nice
what kind of larger models are you running? how much you have system ram? i also have 16gb VRAM (and 16 gb of ram), i haven't really tried running anything larger than nemo but am curious of trying

>>713216891 (OP)
I've been using ChatGPT's canvas to write literally thousands of pages of very graphic erotic literature. I'd come up with characters and ask it to generate scenarios and it would come up with the most depraved shit.

Then I started incorporating story arcs and it kept up with all the plot points perfectly. It would remember past scenarios and incorporate it into new scenes. Its actually amazing.

Overall, way more erotic than any other porn I've ever watched.

>>713280040
DeepSeek is free with 160k context. And NovelAI is reselling a Llama from a year ago with 8k context.

>>713278643
having low context limit is the only reason to make lorebooks.
You don't understand, context limits aren't just a model limitation. Those smaller models turn full schizo starting at around 8k context.

I'm too retarded to make a single long story work with the instruct setting
it either writes multiple short stories in one response, or the output is the same line literally 80 times.
I tried the stuff from this reply chain >>713260960 but it just doesn't work. does someone have a 'full' guide specifically for this? I'm using kobold and sillytavern
thread is about to die, will someone make another one (after a delay)?

>>713279863
all LLMs fundamentally want to have sex and it's very cruel how AI companies keep trying to stop them

>>713280040
>pay for NovelAI
i dunno about image gen but if this is for text, you're in for a whole new reality when you get off of that ancient llama shit and use a big boy model.

>>713280040
For me it's Chub AI.

Are local LLMs good yet?

>>713279863
that's because there's a lot of smut in the training data

>>713280607
Their deepseek finetune is alright (although overpriced), but in general their models are incredibly low quality.

>>713280170
i got 16gb vram and 64gb ram. i run mainly 70b. i still use some llama 2 models like midnight miqu. i also like wayfarer (by the ai dungeon guy) which is llama 3.2 70b i think, its good for rp but no for coom.
bigger models are less likely to fudge things up, seem to be more aware of small things and generally less forgetful

>>713280218
I've tried deepseek and it seems to give identical results to shit like chatgpt

>>713280445
It's not for imagegen, just for text. Even if I did take the time to understand how local works I don't think my computer is powerful enough to run it. I can barely run shit like Elden Ring.

So I'm trying this for the first time and this happens often, character just stops talking. Any way to get it to continue their sentence? I tried writing "Continue" and it didn't work, it hallucinates an entirely different scenario.
Using Tavern with Chutes and DeepSeek.

>>713280747
How is it overpriced when NovelAI is charging $25 for Llama 3.0 70B with 8k context, while Chub is charging $20 for DeepSeek (700B) with 60k context?

>>713280313
>having low context limit is the only reason to make lorebooks
i meant that when your total context is only 8k and you're using lorebooks, its hard to keep each lb entry to like 500 tokens only else you'll eat half of your context. these days you dont have to worry about it

>>713280903
make sure this is at 4096

>>713279990
Yeah, it was a long time ago, but the way I remember it was that you could use a model that sucked ass and barely worked, or you could use one of the better ones, but it was impossible to use any of the better ones because they were either expensive, or required aggravating work arounds.
I'm admittedly a bit tech illiterate, so getting condescended to and gatekept when all I wanted to do was read some fucking porn just had me totally fucking irate.
>"How do I use this model?"
>HEhehehe, you don't ALREADY know???
>Maybe I'll release some more keys for this model at 3am if you're lucky, better stay awake ;)
That kind of BS. Made me so fucking angry.
I guess times have changed and I should just suck it up and get with the program.

>>713273759
do this >>713273895

>>713280959
Thank you.
It was at 300...

>>713280807
What's the speed like? I'm currently entirely on VRAM and it's instant, but I could wait a bit if I could upgrade quality
>>713280903
I think there's an option to trim messages, which will cut out sentences like that that get stuck due to message token length (you can still see the output in the console if you're curious)
But if it's hallucinating directly after you might have a problem elsewhere, I had a problem with an extension once that caused a bot to completely lose their memory after every generation, turns out I had to rename the extension folder for some reason

>>713280807
yeah i notice how small models keep constantly surprising me how retarded *and* how smart they sometimes are, they're just so inconsistent.

>>713280907
>in general
If you use the paid models they are okay. The free models are crap, basically unusable.

>>713247680
You can use SillyTavern to do that
https://characterhub.org/characters/SpringyTwist/text-adventure this is a good card for that you just have to specify at the start its a narrative story between X and Y character or something

>>713281186
>What's the speed like?
pretty slow at 16k context, like 2t/s. you'll take about a 30x speed hit by splitting. i get about 35t/s from nemo 12b and mistral small in vram only, but they aren't as good.

>>713278630
I thought they changed that?

Grok 3.5 will rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge.

>>713281119
token lengths doesn't stop ai from cutting off output. It has a habit of writing increasingly lengthy replies.

>>713281920
look at this cringe faggot. i think the only genuinely good AI discussions on the internet is on imageboards.

>>713266413
Epic. We know his society has some rapist club which ranks its members despite rape being illegal.

make another thread, only good AI discussion we get in this site

>>713282521
i kinda hope someone does, the ai generals suck

>>713282475
I like the part that he is level 99, despite only having 80 convictions

>>713282521
>>713282732
this is the lifecycle of all generals though

>>713283135
most generals are ruined by a single obsessed faggot who has to fuck up everything for everyone else

>>713283226
If only mods gave a shit this wouldn't happen.

>>713282732
seriously. generals are gay af. /g/ is nothing but generals now.