Quick, manufacture a controversy.

>no K. Rool

>>713217672
You'd all say "Oh they're reusing K. Rool? Nostalgia bait" if they did that.
Or something along those lines.

>>713217672
I have no idea why people are so obsessed with him

Manufactured Spirit

>>713217409 (OP)
Paulina represents the white race standing on teh backs of strong brave pocs like DK

>>713217409 (OP)
People outside of the target audience are going to play the game and jack off to Loline. And that's bad because... uh... because.

>>713217409 (OP)
>uhh.... uhh... well, they moved the eyebrows up 2 inches so let's overreact and call it a woke """redesign"""

>>713217716
>"Oh they're reusing K. Rool? Nostalgia bait" if they did that.
huh. tendies clap like seals when bowser or ganondorf shows up for the 274829194th time.

>>713217409 (OP)
no cunny mods

>>713217716
you can still say that for DK rap

>>713217846
Because Pauline Jr. is Mario's daughter.

>>713217909
Ganondorf has only shown up 4 times
1. Ocarina of Time
2. Wind Waker
3. Twilight Princess
4. Tears of the Kingdom

If you want to count spinoffs, he's also been in Hyrule Warriors. Ridley has a higher rate of being in Metroid games than Ganondorf does in Zelda games.

>>713217409 (OP)
After seeing Pauline, I now know why DK has his tongue out all the time.

>>713217736
he's an iconic villain people like?

>>713218043
he didn't need to be in totk or twilight princess.

>>713218075
He's only liked by people who played the Rare games growing up. K. Rool was only really a thing in the 90s.

>>713218194
still a good and memorable design.

>>713218161
He's a good villain and makes both games better. TP's real problem was Zant being sold as the main villain before revealing himself to be a mere minion. Same issue Ghirahim had with Demise in Skyward Sword.

>>713217409 (OP)
no sex minigame with loline probably

>>713218283
>and makes both games better.
not really.

>>713217909
>tendies clap like seals when bowser or ganondorf shows up for the 274829194th time.
There are also anons who lament it. It goes both ways like your mom. (burn)

>>713218075
>>713218194
DKC3 mad scientist K. Rool was fucking stupid and out of character.

>>713217409 (OP)
If the game does well then it's going to influence DK in Smash.

>>713218226
Yes according to the people who played the Rare games growing up. We've established this.

>>713217786
I doubt they'd explicitly make her Mario's kid, but her being regular Pauline's daughter is the only thing that makes sense if they aren't just retconning the original Donkey Kong Arcade, DK Country's backstory of Crankey being the OG from the arcade, and even Odyssey which referenced both of those.

Not that Nintendo would care enough not to do that or even that I care, but still.

>>713218043
His human form has only shown up four times, but Ganon is ganondorf after becoming a demon. That being said, Ganondorf's human form is far more kino and I am glad that they use it sparingly.

>>713219331
> but Ganon is ganondorf after becoming a demon.
SS and TotK disprove that. Ganondorf can turn into Ganon in OoT and TP with the power of the Triforce, but not every Ganon is Ganondorf. Ganon is the incarnation of Demise's curse. Ganondorf is just a Gerudo king that sometimes turns into Ganon and sometimes doesn't.

i hate all the autistic zelda lore.

>>713219512
wow we got a LORE expert here lmao

>>713217409 (OP)
>People act like this shits all over the Rare Games
>the Rare game side cast is in it
>The rare music is all over it
>challenge levels with the Rare Games' gameplay is in it
>the rock enemies are evocative of Kremlings
>The animal and object based NPCs look like characters you'd talk to in old 3D rare games
>The transformations look like Banjo and Kazooie transformations
>There's even schizo theories that K. Rool is a hidden bad guy

I really don't get it. For all the talk about Nintendo hating the Rare Donkey Kong games this game looks like Mario Odyssey slammed together with a N64 Era rare game.
I haven't bought a Switch 2 yet and I honestly plan to wait awhile due to the price and some of the bullshit business decisions around it, but when/if I do get one, I'll be picking this game up. Unless it comes out and just sucks, lol.

>>713219607
He's retarded and trying to one up an actual lore expert(me).
>>713219512
Ganondorf is a reincarnation of Demise, true. However, the Ganon we often see in the "decline" timeline is explicitly the Ganondorf sealed in Ocarina of time. Calamity Ganon is the only Ganon that isn't actually Ganondorf. This happened because the Hyruleans don't really know about Demise or his curse. They associate calamity with the name Ganon so they assumed this raw manifestation of the curse had to come from Ganon because he's the one who has been fucking shit up for them forever so they just called it Ganon out of habit.
Ganon himself has reincarnated like Zelda and Link multiple times. His appearance in TotK, Four Swords, and a few other places where the OG ganondorf canonically died, are him reincarnating. Ganondorf is an incarnation of demise, but even when he's sealed and can't appear again, Demise's curse still surfaces(Calamity Ganon). They're connected but ultimately seperate phenomena.

>>713219637
Speaking of Rare music, are any of Rare's former composers working on it? I know they got back Dave Wise for Tropical Freeze

>>713217409 (OP)
it's going to be bad like breath of the wild because it'll be too open

>>713217409 (OP)
Monkey

discord trannies having nothing to try and sabotage the game with which is why they keep spamming dk threads with furry and loli porn

>>713219968
>Ganondorf is a reincarnation of Demise, true.
No he's not. Demise's curse manifests as Ganon. Ganon and Ganondorf are not synonymous.

There's also Echoes of Wisdom where there's a non-Ganondorf Ganon who ends up being turned into an Echo by Void. So it's evident that Ganon and Ganondorf, though often the same person, aren't always the same.

>77 bananas in the first layer alone
it's like odyssey where there's moons every 10 seconds making finding them really unsatisfying and boring.

demise was a mistake.

>making a spiritual successor to the worst DK game that killed collectathons outside of bing bing man
Oof.

Stop crying.

>>713218043
I count agahnim as a half-ganondorf appearance

>>713219512
>Ganon is the incarnation of Demise's curse
Demise's hatred reincarnates in Ganondorf as hatred, not as Ganondorf in his entirety.
Demise's curse itself is not incarnated, but rather is supposedly just the cause of calamities seeking out Hyrule. Malladus in Spirit Tracks would count as part of the curse.

Bowser > Ganondorf > Ridley > Dedede > Andross > K. Rool

>>713218821
False. K.rool's entire gimmick was that he was a parody of usual villain tropes, his king and pirate forms in 1 and 2 were parodies too.
k.rool's basically a cosplay villain who dresses up in different outfits to play different villain archtypes for fun.

>>713217716
>wow another Mario game using Mario
>wow another Mario game using Bowser
>Nostalgia bait

no one says this shit retard.

>>713217409 (OP)
Eeehhhh
Uuuuuhhhhh
Money!
Nintendo is greedy for charging money for doing their job!

>>713217736
k rool was the best villain out of nintendie game, how could you not care about him?

>>713217916
faggot

I think this "Pauline" might be related to Mario.

K Rool is fat

>>713217846
>thinking lolicucks are buying the game

>>713218351
players don’t want that shit, they want actual features like k rool

>>713218867
It's going to influence his design no matter what the game does. Also it's going to do very well, basically I'm constrained by how many people have a S2

>>713222861
don't talk about yourself like that

>>713218867
>he is still coping and doesn't want to accept that rare DK is dead forever
oh no no no...

>>713217409 (OP)
Nintendo is ERASING RARE from history because they want to DESTROY YOUR CHILDHOOD and ERASE THE BEAUTIFUL AND COMPLEX DONKEY KONG LORE

>>713217409 (OP)

>>713221327
Andross is second only to Bowser. TotK kind of ruined dorf

>>713223023
speak for yourself

>>713217409 (OP)
This game probably caused retro’s game to be cancelled

>>713219637
It feels more like a Wario Land game than a DK game for me, especially with all the focus on gold and digging. Feels like they just added DK to it on the last minute to capitalize in the movie' success

>>713217409 (OP)
Normalizing ""pedophilia"".

>>713217672
All the enemies have golden crocodile skeletons

>>713217786
>Mario gets famous and dumps Pauline
He is so cool

>>713217786
The autism behind this is insane because why can't Pauline just be a single parent like Bowser?

>>713223527
Wait... shit. Retros game was about singing too.

UHHHH ITS ON THE SWITCH 2 WHICH MEANS I CAN'T BE A NIGGER AN EMULATE IT SO IT'S BAD NINTENDO IS FINISHED

The gameplay looks fun and very polished. This is the future of gaming and worth $80

>>713223407
TotK dorf was great though.

>>713223714
Because she has to tend to mayor duties.

>>713223527
Bananza didn't start development until several years after that game was cancelled. Retro just shit the bed, mind broken by the Wii U and constant harassment for making Donkey Kong instead of Metroid

>>713217716
Getting real tired off seeing your bitchass keep repeating this when K. Rool is a highly requested character to return along with going hand-in-hand with the series of games that helped propel DK out of just being the gorilla from the arcade games. Unironically eat shit.

>>713219637
It already has like double the amount of Rare stuff that the Retro DKC duology had. DKCR was the game that actually shat on the Rare games and Tropical Freeze barely helped.

>>713223825
So what's the issue with this?

>>713217409 (OP)
>manufacture a controversy.
The entire fandom of Donkey Kong is about to go the way of Starfox. It's going to be brutal.

>>713217409 (OP)
It paints an unrealistic stereotype that black men destroy things for fun and kidnap little white girls to rape later

Feathered dinos = WOKE
Feathered DK = WOKE
Feathered K.ROOL = WOKE

>>713223825
The game is gonna be absolutely full of braindead collectibles like this.
Keep in mind this was made by the Odyssey devs.

>>713224052
agreed, everyone will sperg out when they see k rools appearance!

>>713217736
It's a matter of principal at this point

>>713224101
what.

>>713223527
>>713223756
>>713223857
There's more credence that Harmony was originally Retro's attempt at a Zelda-like

>>713224258
I can't wait for them to sperg out at Mario and Pauline appearing at the end.

>>713217409 (OP)
>AI textures
>5 hour playtime
>Native or Tribal artworks used
>Paid DLC

donkey kong hanging around a girl is... kinda gay

So you stupid faggots already realize this is Cranky Kong's younger version or do you need everything spelled out for you?

>>713217409 (OP)
Donkey Kong doesn't support Israel because he doesn't know what Israel is.

cancel him RIGHT FUCKING NOW AND EDUCATE HIM ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST!

>>713224553
Cranky Kong is already in the game

>>713223295
It's funny how you insist on calling Pre-redesign DK "Rare DK" as if it hasn't been his only design for the past 30 years.
NuDK is literally the same design with a few tweaks to his face to allow more expressiveness. The real problem is the changes to his personality that made him way too goofy and childish. No dignity left in that ape.

>>713224704
Cranky Kong is a title, just like Donkey Kong, he isn't Cranky Kong yet, but he will become once he's older

>>713224847
nothing about the tweaks allow for more expressions. The meme that DK can't move his brow is a lie.
and the
-dinted nigger nose
-philtrum
-gigantic ugly mouth
-added fat obesity
have nothing to do with expressiveness. they just make him ugly.

>>713217736
DK fans see K. Rool as an underdog character that was mistreated by Nintendo.

>>713225223
Look how they massacred my boy...

>>713225639
he got into smash, he had a part in the tv show, and he was in several games. people need to move on.

>>713225818
>he got into smash
cause he was highly requested for ages. like banjo.

>>713217409 (OP)
somethng something loli

Do you think Funky's going to be in? I think it'd be cool if there was a minigame using the Surf ability where you go up against him

I was molested by a Battletoad.

>>713226346
Funky looks like DK but nu-DK is a fat retard..
so I don't see how they will possibly make him look cool now.

>>713226346
>>713226472
i feel like if funky is in he'll hardly be changed. diddy, cranky, and dixie did not have as massive as redesigns. only DK got made into a completely new fucking character.

>>713226472
Cranky is basically unchanged despite DK looking different. They could just have Funky use his old design, use the opportunity to make them more distinct

>>713223594
And? That doesn't mean shit.

>>713217672
>Grumpy Kong makes the crocodile stone bosses
>Void Kong has a weird name unlike all other Kongs
>Doesn't trust his underlings
>Golden sharp teeth and nails
>Eye veins
>Bananzas literally have shape shifting powers
He is right here

>>713226560
>>713226608
I'd say the contrast of essentially having the real DK with shades would make the re-design even more jarring.
the art direction and assets are already all over the place.
like Diddy and Dixy have a weird thin rubber band inbetween their eyes but the other small monkeys don't.

>>713217672
The tricky thing about K. Rool is that he's not as present as the likes of Eggman or Bowser and usually only shows up at the end, so unless there's kremlings everywhere it's hard to say if he's in. Which on one hand makes him a great potential twist inclusion, but also leads to delusional levels of cope for games like Returns, TF, and maybe this.

Then again, I'm not immune to this thinking myself, he could be the secret boss of the Void Company, come in at the last second to steal the spotlight, or even be VK like >>713226848 said. His whole gimmick as a villain is his costumes, he's hidden behind a fake villain before, and I have noticed that both in-game and in his promo render some shots of him have an eye half shut and a veiny eye wide open. K. Rool's gimmick means his very existence is paranoia bait.

>>713224157
>keep in mind this was made by one of the best current dev teams who made the best game of the last generation
Stop, I can only get so erect.

>>713219114
>>713218194
>He's only liked by people who played the Rare games growing up.
So the only games that matter? Truth be told, none of the non-Rare games outside of Retro's titles sold well, and the Retro titles were coasting off the DKC brand, which Rare had a full hand in creating. Were it not for Rare, DK would be an uncommon/obscure Mario character in the sports titles. DKC made DK. Rare made DK into a household name outside of a single title that was already fading away before 1990.

>>713223979
This, K. Rool represents a deeper part of the DK franchise, one that made the ape into a hero alongside Mario and Link, rather than another Mario villain who got pushed aside by Bowser. Getting him in Smash wasn't the endgoal, it was him getting back to his main villain status in Donkey Kong that was the focus. I repeat; none of the non-Rare games did well and all of the other DK villains pale in comparison to K. Rool and the Kremlings.

>>713217409 (OP)
Pauline is 13 which is TOO OLD

>>713217409 (OP)
Why are there deliberate troon colors in the color scheme?

>>713228934
one, you're delusional
two, the entire game is about getting to the planet's kore

you guys gotta let K. Rool go. The accident wasn't your fault.

>>713226346
We've seen a level or two that feature water and surfing. I feel like he'll make an appearance

>>713225818
>need too move on
Why?
>Bro bowser has been in too many mario games stop using him ever again
What

>>713217409 (OP)
I hope there's a heart-tugging scene where DK and Pauline have to say goodbye

>>713217409 (OP)
ROUND EYES!!!!!!

>>713217409 (OP)
Wow I can't believe this game is $90
Tendies will really eat any shit presented to them

>>713230098
One way or another they're going to have to part ways at the end. Either Pauline is restored to normal or if it IS a prequel she returns to the city so DK/Cranky can do his autism-induced kidnapping in a few years.

>>713230197
>$90
What asscrack did you pull that number from?

>You can't look up Pauline's dress/skirt

I know some of you fuckers will boycott the game over that.

>>713229193
NO! HE WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE DEAD! *sobs*

>>713222448
Snoys were saying Mario Galaxy is a rehash of Mario 64. Do not doubt the stupidty of snoys.

>>713230338
OP said manufacture a controversy. Lying about how much stuff costs has been one of the biggest focuses of the Switch 2 mald squad.

It just seems so weird. Like.... okay. So you know about the original games.
>explicitly include references to the rare games
>explicitly feature levels and art and assets designed specifically after those games
>even change Rambi back to his non shitty pre-retro design
>Even have an entire crocodilian enemy class EXTREMELY SIMILAR to kremlings
>Devs are literally quoted as "having grown up with the original DKC games and wanted to make one" so they should recognize DK isn't without a foe
>Cranky dialogue about rivals
All of it just seems to scream "Yes, we are finally done ignoring those DK games", and yet... one big, green peice is missing.

So I have one of two theories: Either A, K Rool is present, or B: For whatever reason, K Rool and the kremlings are just on a no-use list for all but their most independent of dev teans (Smash), and the crockoids are a pity prize for kremling fans like Lord Fredrik in tropical freeze, because again for some reason they decided he just can't work with what they want to do arbitrarily. I hope Void Kong is not honestly supposed to be the leader to DK's hulk now.

>>713230842
I highly doubt there's a no K Rool rule.
It's possible it's an odyssey situation where these new guys are like the new rabbit enemies and then there's some cool Bowser/Krool shit at the end.
But I think it's also possible it gets saved for a sequel or something.

It's either nostalgia-pandering sovless garbage or it's WOKEy Kong, there's no in-between. It's NEW and DIFFERENT which means it's SOVLLESS and COMPROMISED and this isn't RARE and Donkey Kong can be many things but it CAN'T BE THIS

>>713217672
>K. Rool is King K. Rool (king) in DKC
>K. Rool is Kaptain K. Rool (pirate) in DKC2
>K. Rool is Baron K. Roolenstein (mad scientist) in DKC3
>King Krusha K. Rool (boxer) in DK64
>Everything after just defaults to his king persona and doesn't do anything fun with a role and nobody is bothered by this
If they bring K. Rool back, I want him to be filling a role, make him a businessman witha tie and suit working with Void.

>>713228273
I just noticed his skin also kinda has a scale pattern. This might be an exaggeration from my part but it don't think details like this are made for no reason.

>>713231078
>where these new guys are like the new rabbit enemies and then there's some cool Bowser/Krool shit at the end.
>But I think it's also possible it gets saved for a sequel or something.
This is what I'm thinking too, like it makes too much sense for people from the Odyssey team to do that with how much love they put into that game. It would be possible for a sequel setup but somehow that seems unlikely to me if anyone else makes the next mainline DK.

I think another possibility, based off Cranky's dialogue, is that K Rool eventually comes after YOU after hearing about the banandium. You and Voidco did all the hard work for him, so now he's going to fuck everyone up like Bowser in TTYD.
>>713231081
Venture Kapitalist K Rool?
>>713231169
I do think the shapeshifting angle has some credit but I'm just like "You've had bad kongs work with you before, why are you turning into something you hate immensely". I can't figure out a WHY for K Rool to shapeshift into a Kong, he would be too egotistical I think.

So how many Bananza Forms do you think there are?

The section on skill trees showed 4 columns of unavailable skills to the right of a skill tree with the Kong Bananza icon, this is leading me to think there will be a total of 5 different Bananza transformations.

Having 5 is also the maximum amount you could have while making quickly swapping between them with a single press of a button possible. By using the D-Pad/directional buttons, you got 4 possible forms, and then by pressing the same button you would normally press to use your current form, you could easily access a 5th.

Thoughts?

>>713231407
KEO/Korporate K.Rool?

>>713230472
For the last few months, we've been dealing with so much misinformation regarding the Switch 2, so I can't tell what is ironic or unironic shitposting anymore.

>>713231081
At least they kinda stuck with the theme with Super Sluggers giving him an Aztec look. It's not the most unique design in the world but at least they understood that you're supposed to shake it up a little each time.

>>713230842
I hope K. Rool in Smash means whatever Nintendo autism that was preventing his return has been dispelled and not just another case of Sakurai being the only one allowed to break the rules. I doubt it's a hard and fast rule either, I think it's probably just a case of nobody at Nintendo ever being willing to rock the boat, even over something as simple as Miyamoto saying "I don't like him" at some point in the past.
And I'm glad you brought up Hulk because part of why I'm looking forward to this game is because I'm hoping it will fill the Ultimate Destruction shaped hole in my heart.

>>713231407
>I can't figure out a WHY for K Rool to shapeshift into a Kong, he would be too egotistical I think.
That's my only question too, but maybe it was to convince the other Kongs that he was on their side? To have a disguise no monkey would ever see through? I don't know.

>>713227552
uuooohhh banana

>>713224258
>final fight
>oops just kidding it's the old boss
I am going to laugh so fucking hard if they do this.

>>713217409 (OP)
They are actively trying to purge Rare from their history because their ego got bruised by a western company driving the success of the DK franchise instead a japanese one.

>>713231523
With how much water there is in the game and DK not being able to go under the surface I think there's going to be some kind of aquatic form. I've seen suggestions for a swordfish form but I think an octopus form would be neat since you could use it in water but also on land as a form that's designed to climb very quickly. And we're probably going to get some kind of crazy final form for the finale like Bowser was in Odyssey.

>>713231523
I think there will be a point when the player loses Pauline and DK gets turned into "Human Bananza" (maybe Pauline gets turned into a chimp too and captured).

>>713217672
he’s gonna be either an easter egg or shown after the credits

>>713231867
Yeah, you would think that would make the most sense. It's been a whole decade since the smash ballot that probably had K Rool in smash in the first place, nobody can pretend they don't know anymore, so it's either deliberate or he's back.
>spoiler
A man after my own heart.
>but maybe it was to convince the other Kongs that he was on their side?
At this point my best guess would be that he wants to confuse the kongs, having his army intervene above ground as a distraction while he works directly as Void Kong with Voidco as his stand-in army for this operation.

But really, I'd find it more likely that Void Kong is a wannabe, meant to fill a similar role to K Rool as Diddy is to DK, so he of course wears a lot of similar articles. (Gold vest, gold this and that, regal attire, etc).

>>713217672
That's it, DROPPED

>>713231523
Seeing how all the other layers with animal theming in the structures and npcs have bananza forms, there's probably a giraffe bananza too.

>>713233209
nu DK looks like such a dumbass man it's so jarring.

>>713232701
>game teases K. Rool's involvement as a very angry Voidco shareholder after the credits
>get a Lost World themed extra zone akin to Dark Side/Darker Side with a K. Rool fight at the end
this might actually be a good way to do it, Void Kong gets to be an actual antagonist and K. Rool gets his triumphant return and a postgame bonus fight like in DKC2 and 3

>>713217672
>reptile iconography literally everywhere
He will be back.

>>713217786
>nintendo's main mascot is a blue-collar worker who fucks hot women raw
This would solve japan's birthrate crisis

>>713233209
I don't think so, notice that there aren't any actual giraffe NPCs shown, only crystal guys shaped like giraffe heads. If we see any other actual animal species there's probably going to be a form based on them. I think every layer will have some kind of animal theme but only a few will add a new Bananza form.

>>713217409 (OP)
tranny colors (close enough)

>>713217409 (OP)
any monkey being dubbed by a black va

>>713226848
I take him not being a Kong because the name thing but still too sketchy to consider him King K Rool

>>713223825
Why does this bother Snoys so much, it's so weird you keep posting this like it's bad