If you don't upgrade to Windows 11 by October 14, Steam will uninstall itself and all your games will be deleted
>>713218074 (OP)https://bazzite.gg/
Don't fail me now!
>>713218074 (OP)good, I don't use steamy shit
>windows 10 is over, please upgrade to windows 11
>your computer doesn't meet the requirements for windows 11
>>713218475yes, I'm afraid it's true, OP is gay and suck dicks.
>>713218074 (OP)>no more forced updates for anyonethis is really good news
I haven't even activated my windows 10 yet
explain how you need to prepare exactly? just click the update button
>>713218198>https://bazzite.gg/>click link>first thing i see is a lgtv flagand people get mad when they say linux is for trans
>>713218074 (OP)That absolutely won't happen, but I wouldn't really care if it did because I'm already using Linux Mint.
>>713218592That's part of the plan. A billion megatons of fresh e-waste in your local landfills, and more money in the pockets of baby boomers who won't have to deal with the consequences. Throw out your computer and buy a new one, RIGHT NOW!!!
>>713218074 (OP)>are you preparedYes I am
>https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol>1- GAC (General Availability Channel) (i.e. Home, Pro, Enterprise). It will reach the end of support on October 14, 2025.>2- LTSC (Long-Term Servicing Channel) (i.e. Enterprise LTSC, IoT Enterprise LTSC). Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 will reach the end of support on Jan 12, 2027 and Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 will reach the end of support on Jan 13, 2032>The solution is simple. You can just use the Official Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 edition to get updates till Jan 13, 2032.
>>713218074 (OP)W10 LTSC is good til 2032 so.
>>713218074 (OP)Already bit the bullet on 11 about a month ago. Used microwin and Titus tool to get it going. Seems fine so far.
>>713218791hey fuck off, i have a 4k LG TV and it works fine
>>713218074 (OP)Didn't Steam still support Windows 7 for like 4 more years after Microsoft ended support for it?
>>713219090steam supported it until google pulled out with chromium
there's a lot less distinguishing 10 and 11 so that'll take a while unless they deliberately force incompatibility
There should be a way to run these operating systems on top in the user space, with the latest version of Windows internally.
>>713219090Steam supported Windows 7 until the underlying Chromium webslop dropped support for it -- and even then, they never did anything that would break existing Steam installs on Windows 7 machines. Despite a scary "Steam will stop running on Windows 7" banner on top of the Steam window, the update that incidentally would have broken Windows 7 clients was simply not pushed to them. I don't know if you can do a fresh install on a Windows 7 system now, but occasionally Anonymous will post a screenshot of Steam still working with the "will stop running in 0 days" banner. lol
But Windows 11 literally takes random screenshots of my PC and sends it to Microsoft. There forcing me to switch to linux.
>October 2025
>computer fans suddenly start going crazy
>CPU usage spiking
>several people are accessing my computer and filling up my hard drive
>realize I never upgraded to W11
>now it's too late
>hackers got into my computer and started downloading pornography and viruses on my computer
why don't they just let us make windows 10/11 look like XP or 98 anymore?
Jokes on you I'm still on 7.
>>713218074 (OP)>Steam will uninstall itself and all your games will be deletedwould be the best thing that ever happened to me
>>713218074 (OP)lol no it won't
Microsoft is going to face another Windows 7 situation and will extend support. Literally no one is downgrading to 11 willingly.
>>713219508>>71321981210 seconds of searching shows you can rice them to make them look like that retards
>>713220057not worth the effort, it all falls apart the minute you actually try to use your OS
Here:
https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
You can get the extended security support until 2028. If you install LTSC IoT, you can stay on 10 until 2032.
do you think those jeets will try and push everyone to 11 by shitting out DX13 and claim that win10 can't run it?
still staying on win7 btw
>>713219812dwm.exe is mandatory now and was further integrated into the OS. You can have the classic theme back with some tweaks but shit will be all broken.
>>713220027w7 had 63% install base when microsoft ended it
w10 has 37% 4 months before
normies will simply accept the enshittification
>windows 7 support will end in 0 days
>>713218074 (OP)I've got Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC, I don't give a fuck.
Besides, setting up dual boot is simple if such a need arises.
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>>713220274>w10 has 37%False. But feel free to post the source.
>inb4 SteamThe place where laptops and chink cybercafes dominate hardware can't be taken seriously.
>>713218602I'm in line rn, he's fuckin slow
>>713220476>desktopso it includes irrelevant office shit?
>people still thinking that steam and other platforms will support w10 until 2032
you guys are fucking delusional lmao
>>713220603It includes desktops. No one is talking about gaming PCs exclusively here.
But since you mentioned offices, these are even more relevant for Microsoft than gaming stuff and they have absolutely no reason to upgrade, specially since it actually costs company money, so even more reason for them to pull a 7 again.
>>713220793yes, microsoft doesn't really give a shit about glorified data entry machines and pdf openers upgrading and it's not like any IT people ever wanted to upgrade the entire fucking office for no reason
point is that among the actual normies and their computers this is nowhere close to what microsoft did with 7, all those normies grabbing new laptops and prebuilts are bending the knee
>>713218917dont do this it installed a dolphin on my computer
>>713220773Why the fuck would people expect support on an unsupported platform?
>vulnerability occurs>microsoft wont patch>massive security risk>expect valve to do something about it
Never got the chance to upgrade from 7 to 10 because I got a new PC instead. Do they just let you update your OS and keep everything now instead of having to do a fresh install on a drive?
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what even happens if you don't upgrade
>>713221620nothing until the devs themselves start discriminating against you
>>713221620Nothing. You just won't get security updates anymore. There is a theoretical chance that a security flaw in windows 10 could be discovered and microsoft will not patch it. Otherwise nothing will change until developers arbitrarily stop supporting W10.
>>713220773>>713221432Still not "upgrading", rabbi. Don't you have more pressing things to worry about?
>>713218791All software is trans
>normies and offices pay more than a hundred bucks for each windows licence coming with their laptops, prebuilts and office desktops
>>713221267Microsoft's entire business model is around selling office stuff, followed by OEM with gamers barely being a concern. They are the only ones they truly care about.
>point is that among the actual normies and their computers this is nowhere close to what microsoft did with 7, all those normies grabbing new laptops and prebuilts are bending the kneeStill over 50% of the entire market. Statcounter statistics come from web trackers, which means that half the people browsing the internet from a PC are still on 10. And it won't be any lower than that by October. They are 100% bending the knee.
>>713222078Offices pay a licensing deal on a yearly basis for x number of simultaneous users.
>>713221854Where exactly did I state that I care if retards don't keep their machines updated and secure?
>>713220773Steam only drops support if Chromium does, that being said, they ran an outdated CEF fork until 2024 just to support W7. Windows 7 can still run the client btw, there's just no guarantees it'll keep working that way.
>>713221620UPGRADE WINDOS NOW SAAAR
>>713218475Yes, Kevin Nash was raped in a Detroit alley back in the sweltering, steamy, unbearably hot summer of 1992.
'd 'o
I only got an old laptop that I can't format because Acer bullshit, so I'll be forced into 11
don't cry for me
>>713218074 (OP)Oh no, not all the games that I never play!
>>713224145>old laptop that I can't format because Acer bullshitSkill issue
>>713218074 (OP)Because I don't play games on PC lol
>>713218074 (OP)werks on my machine
>>713218074 (OP)Denuvo won't get cracked but assuming there isn't 200000M exploits already they will crack 10 in hell probably minutes after the final security update goes out if it hasn't already. So if you find yourself in a 4Chan situation no one to blame but yourself for being the unlucky guy who got hacked at like 0.00000001% chance.
>>713218074 (OP)im just waiting for all these enlightened win 10 faggots to get hacked by indian brown viruses kek
>>713220271dwm is based
https://dwm.suckless.org/
>>713223876KEK, What a Bitch
all the gaslighting into updating to w11 reminds me of that fuckin trucoat scene from fargo
>>713219656Why don't people do presentations like this again
>Install game on proton
>Cloud don't detect windows save data.
as long as you're on WDDM 3.2 you're gucci. you can check this with GPU-Z btw.
>>713218791>BAZZ OS>didn't expect it to be for trannies
>>713221359cool I like dolphins
>>713218074 (OP)Any sane person is already using Win11.
I gave up on vista and moved to mint. I haven't looked back. It's been almost 15 years now, if you're still using windows in 2025 you deserve to be hacked. At the very least use a separate drive and burner outlook account in case microsoft goes down or loses your password.
>>713231898>soon to be the only supported Windows version>still not even 60%lol
>>713232067lol
lmao
rofl
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>>713233069are you ok bro
>>713218074 (OP)I'm a piratechad tho.
>>713233335wdym
r u ok?
plz
kthx
>>713233069>>713233370how do you even become this mad? get a grip
>>713233914you're talking to a bot
this
>>713233069 is what chatgpt will spit out when it gets confused, probably a stupid jeet copypasting it
>>713218074 (OP)Already upgraded to Linux Mint.
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>Steam will uninstall itself and all your games will be deleted
retarded lmao
>>713234012LLMs don't do that. They write overly verbose bullshit, and you have to beg them not to sound soulless.
I decided to have some fun and here's the result. It's pretty good but not very convincing. If I tried to pass this off as a genuine post (which I never do btw), I think someone would probably call it out as AI-generated.
Did it ignore my instructions to include spelling errors? I don't see any but I'm too lazy to read it all carefully. I should have told it to keep under 400 characters or something.
>>713218074 (OP)What are they odds they actually eol it I imagine they suddenly won't or will say they have but keep pushing security updates for years
>>713235182AI can easily pass as (sub)human on Reddit since the human users post just as long meaningless garbage
>>713235182You have no idea how to prompt then.
>>713235416I have no idea how to prompt to make it "confused"? Okay you got me, feel free to provide an example for my amusement.
>>713218791>lgtv flagLGbros...... not like this!
>>713235192End of support just means that you won't get more Windows updates but everything will work as usual until Steam actively decides to stop that version of windows from working.
THINK OF ALL THE SECURITY PATCHES YOU'LL MISS OUT ON
YOU NEED TO BE SAFE
ITS DANGEROUS OUT THERE IN COMPUTER LAND
Enterprise IoT LTSC.
No fucks given.
>>713218592This.
How the fuck can anything be more bloated than what windows 10 is?
It took years for w10 to be ok and even now I hate turning on my pc because of the forced update shit
>>713235870>How the fuck can anything be more bloated than what windows 10 is?Never doubt microshart.
Microsoft will "find" a massive unfixable vulnerability with Windows 10 a week or so after ending support.
>>713236201>even though they'll be supporting it for 3 more yearsImagine being such a tard.
>>713235870Microsoft endgame is to make It's OS a monthly sub that is installed in a server farm that you have to connect to via the internet and if you don't pay it you no longer have access to the OS
Why are they forcing the jump to 11 this fast? I was gonna just wait it out til 12 comes like I did with XP and again with 7. The fuck is this shit?
>>713236590>source: my ass>I believe this despite them making the OS free and going from draconian shit like WGA to just letting you install without a key and use it forever
I'm using a decade old Gentoo installation.
W11 is just W10 with redesigned UI, which you can mod back in the places where it matters.
>>713218074 (OP)>>713218198im good
but will switch to Arch from Fagzzite
>>713236596W10 will be 10 years old in 1 month.
>>713236795>decade old Probably the time it took you to make it work in the first place so I'm not gonna judge.
>>713236596Yeah, I skipped vista, and 8. I hope 12 or whatever is after 11 has its shit together. Otherwise I'm moving to SteamOS when they figure out how to get it working with nvidia and intel hardware. So we've got about four months, all the time in the world honestly.
>>713218074 (OP)>have to right-click, press Show More Options, then you get to Copy/Paste/Delete etc>3 clicks instead of 2 like it always has beenWhy is 11 like this? What's the point of changes like this?
>>71323695612 is going to be even worse than 11
>>713229746the modern world is devoid of soul
>>713236996SteamOS it is, then. I'm not picky, I just want an OS that can play all my games and not be a fucking botnet whatever the fuck 11 is that records your desktop 24/7 and uploads it to a central server. The only reason I used 11 in the first place is I got a hospital copy of it that had all the spyware shit cut out because of HIPAA laws.
>>713237097>used 11I used Windows 10*
>>713224145>I only got an old laptop that I can't format because Acer bullshit???
are you fucking retarded?
the only way i can see this being a case is if you bought an old laptop from an office with a locked bios but even then i dont see how that would prevent you from wiping your drive
>>713236596It feels fast because microsoft promised 10 would be the last version, and so every fucking program ever was made for 10 compatibility. The only real push for 11 is prebuilts have 11 instaslled, and intel CPus don't work with 10 now, but AMD still does so even that's not a big deal.
24h2 is finally good now it just requires AMD CPU and AMD GPU
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>>713236984Why not just fix it and shut up?
>reg.exe add "HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32" /f /ve>"but I don't know if that's malicious!!!!!"It just adds a blank key.
>>713220261unfortunately vulkan is a thing now so they have to come up with a new scare tactic
>>713237186why did they promise 10 as the last if it wasn't the last
we should be able to sue them for false marketing
>>713219571You can instal fresh steam on win 7 and it work and install legacy version. Just block updates after
>>713235870>How the fuck can anything be more bloated than what windows 10 is?Wait until you see how slow and inefficient they can make their OS with forced โAIโ shit baked into the OS. The next decade will be a golden era of worthless features that no one asked for slowing down all their devices. The more things change, the more everything remains the same.
>>713221267>point is that among the actual normies and their computers this is nowhere close to what microsoft did with 7, all those normies grabbing new laptops and prebuilts are bending the kneethank god based trump is upping tariffs so that's happening even slower than in any previous generation
>>713218272Based and same.
Thinking about switching to Linux but I'm a fucking retard, which is the easiest distro to use
>>713237271>why did they promise 10 as the last if it wasn't the lastThe guy who promised it was a tech marketer who thought MS would move to a subscription model
For people who dislike W11 UI
>Windhawk
>Explorer Patcher
>Open Shell
That said I think W11's start menu is probably the best since 7.
>>713237297>Apple bragged about their M-series chips for years >all those performance gains quickly being wiped out by the AI shitItโs happening quicker than youโd think.
>>713237346Mint by a mile
Avoid Wayland based DEs until you're certain your computer can run them. If you don't know what that means then don't think about it and just get Mint.
>>713237379still not switching
>>713235870Thereโs an old industry joke that goes: โIntel giveth and Microsoft taketh away.โ What it means that hardware keeps getting more powerful, but software companies keep making software slower and more bloated so that it never feels like your computer is faster for very long.
>>713237413W11 has better support for old windowed and borderless fullscreen, where it uses the new flip model so it has input delay on par with exclusive fullscreen.
>>713237472that's nice
still not switching
>>713237409Thanks bro, gonna try out Mint
>>713237346install Gentoo
nah jk but for ppl switching from Windows for the first time your best bet is Mint or Kubuntu if you want a retard proof distro I wouldnt recommend Bazzite
do what's wrong with w11?
>>713237472nice but i'm still not switching
>>713237639It's shit, even compared to Windows 10 which was also shit, Windows 10 looks good compared to Windows 11.
And MS being a fag retard company cannot stop downgrading it over time with intrusive patches that you can't disable. Like trying to force outlook accounts for users to the point where you have to put in an even shadier console command to get local accounts than the average linux fag
>>713237297Do you ever think about how we're likely at the peak of consumer-grade computing power for potentially a decade or so? If you get a 9950x or 9950x3d, 196 gb of Ram, a good 870 motherboard, and a 5090 super, that might be it for a long time.
>transistors and silicon wafers can only physically get so small>slow AI bullshit is becoming more and more present, coding is beyond fucked and software locking at hardware levels is becoming more popular>the global economy is teetering on a full-blown crash, consumer grade computers will have to downgrade to sell at all, post-covid supply chain breakdowns and tariff politics aren't helping things>if Taiwan gets involved in this war bullshit, say goodbye to NVME drives>permanently-integrated ram is being toyed around as an idea, no more user swappable sticks is a possibility, could just be /g/ doomposting but still worries me
>>713237639New bad, old good
Tit's just updated W10 with new UI, which is subjective whether you'll like it or not.
The irony is that some old programming bugs come out in games decades after release, because W11 updates actually fixed some stuff.
>>71323587011 doesn't even have huge needs. 9 out of 10 computers that "can't run it" actually can. But it's demanding some useless security settings that you may be capable of enabling in your bios
>mfw actually went back to W10
11 is so fucking shit
>>713237639well my fellow ESL (probably a jeet)
W11 is genuinely a bloated mess, the default install is such resource hog so even if you have a top end PC it is gonna eat up your resources which is even more evident the lower end your PC is
another thing is the forcing of AI dogshit like recall which screenshots everything you do
and remember they will only keep forcing AI shit into the OS and its only gonna get more bloated with time
>>713237186>and intel CPus don't work with 10 nowDoesn't that make them garbage? Don't bother answering, I know the answer. Yes, it makes them garbage
>>713238049They work with 10, though. People on 4chan like to lie.
>>713237639>forced to add an outlook e-mail when (you) recently bought a new computer, also the screen is forced upon you, without any skip or dismiss button (t. configured sis's new laptop). can be bypassed, but you'll have to look for it online>will spam you to buy office and also, add an outlook account>bloated
>>713238031>typo so as do>must be esl
>>713236996Right, there was still presumably whites and Asians working at Microsoft when 10 was developed. 12 is going to be developed by Rakesh Patel accessing a wifi hotspot in a cow shit infested shack in a Bombay slum.
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>>713238031>even if you have a top end PC it is gonna eat up your resourcesNot really.
>another thing is the forcing of AI dogshit like recall which screenshots everything you doExcept it doesn't, because Recall doesn't exist on x86-64. At all. You can't show me one x86-64 machine where it exists. But you'll keep saying that because you're a liar.
It's also likely not coming. It was pretty universally hated on ARM, and they were hinting at an eventual rollout, but we're almost at the next yearly update, with no hint it will ever happen. This coming update is actually expected to be small, as some people just recently got 24H2.
So what are the actual consequences of this shit?
>>713237271>we should be able to sue themHow much did you pay for Win10?
>>713238234okay saaaar i will still not redeem winjeet 11
>>713238248For people who use massgravel, nothing for 3 years. Just roll into ESU and keep getting updates.
>>713238275>openly lies, which is an Indian trait>I'm the jeet, though
>>713238232no, it'll be developed by Microsoft's internal LLM with an Indian vibe coder poorly prompting it and barely bothering to check over the output
>>713218074 (OP)I don't even care if w11 takes screenshots of my shit and a photo o my fapping
The deal breaker is the ultra dogshit UI, I need to use it for work and I still haven't gotten used to what's a plain downgrade of w10
I haven't made the switch to Linux yet because every distro has dogshit UI too, but I might as well use it now that I'm getting garbage either way
>>713238248Needing to figure out Linux when 10's long term support dies
>>713238234>shows a screenshot of 120gb RAM and 20 is usedFUCKING KEK are all W11 users mouth drooling retards?
>Except it doesn't, because Recall doesn't exist on x86-64. At alldoesnt change the fact that they are gonna keep pushing AI dogshit into the OS, and yes they are still going forward with wider rollout of Recall, screencap this and use it as a reminder when you are gonna have to use some powershells script to remove it
>>713238327KDE is pure kino and the actual features it has compared to windows is actually insane
>>713238508>whining about practically no RAM being used>more lies about Recall, which flopped and is largely forgotten at MicrosoftBut keep selling your LinuxCorp Linux Pro 2.0, saar.
>>713238565>>whining about practically no RAM being usedkek he is actually a mouth drooling retard jeet
even the most bloated linux distro with a browser running wouldn't be using 20gb of ram
>>713238234>using almost 23 gigs of RAMyeah that's really resource-light right there
>>713238639>>713238708>105GB free>"b-b-but it should be 115GB!!!!!!"
>>713238808drooling retard
it doesnt matter how much of it is free if the idle OS is using 23GB it literally proves the point of it being bloated
unless you are trying to pretend to be a retard and show how Windows 11 users are retarded and it is a bloated OS
in which case based (but i doubt it)
>>713238808It should be even more than that. 20+ GB for an OS is insane.
>>713238913Bloat is relative. It's bloated to you because your potato would grind to a halt swapping to your (likely) HDD. It's comfy for me because I have plenty of memory to do whatever I need to do.
>>713218198At this point why not just fucking use SteamOS
>>713238985It's not a clean boot. If I had nothing running, I could have it pared down to 12-13. But I run Jellyfin, Stash, and MS SQL at the minimum, and FIrefox will eat up to 10GB before I restart it (I cache to RAM to prevent unnecessary disk writes).
>>713238987BASED
i cant imagine how it is live with room temp IQ, must be comfy
>>713239082>I could have it pared down to 12-13that's still deranged
i cant afford a new computer...
I switched from 7 to 10 and I refuse to change my ways again.
If anything I might go back to 7 when I reinstall my PC.
>>713239095No, you're a faggot. You bitch about minimum wage being so low, not knowing you're not supposed to work a minimum wage job past 18. Yes, Windows uses more memory than it did in the past, but everyone has 64-192GB now.
>>713218074 (OP)Yeah I switched over to 10 LTSC. Absolutely nothing changed and I'm getting security patches for another 5 years!
Why are they making people do this? I refuse to believe it's because computers that are a few years old can't "run" windows 11. Why are they so invested in making people switch? Not tom netion the shittons of electronic waste this will generate for no reason.
>>713239281It allows them to free up their resources. Supporting two OSes requires you to maintain more teams doing disparate shit. When you drop the old one, you can either lay off or fold the old OS team members into the new one.
>>713218074 (OP)I'll be switching to Arch. Already using it on my laptops.
>>713239281windows 11 contains some core compenents that allow microsoft to more effectively control what you run on the pc. the end goal is being able to completly manage what people run on their computers, so that piracy just isn't possible among other things.
>>713239204i know you're baiting now
i gotta admit you got me the first time
>>713239486>random schizophreniaI love linux fats. You're insane, but you don't pose a threat to anyone due to breathing trouble.
>>713239542you guys sure go out of your way to denigrate and fearmonger about an operating system and its users that supposedly aren't a threat
>>713239061SteamOS has issues on basically anything that it wasn't explicitly made to run on (i.e. Steam Deck and a few other handheld PCs) and isn't even officially available for fresh installs. Bazzite is pretty much just SteamOS with some modifications to make it more suitable as a desktop OS.
>>713239590>fearmongerNobody fears you. You have to nap after walking up 3 steps to get to your front door.
I was forced to "upgrade" to Win 11 on my work Surface Pro and it's the most repugnant shit I've ever seen. Does M$ actively try to make things worse with each iteration? Why do they constantly make nonsensical UI changes and then remove the capability to revert them?
If you don't upgrade to Windows 11 by October 14, Gabe Newell will personally come burn your house and rape your entire family while you watch, then he will proceed to nuke your city from the face of the Earth
>>713236663NTA but the only reason they allow windows to be so easily accessible is because they move every service to cloud. Windows is just an entry point. If you are paying for their services - good. If you don't, then at least they have all your data to sell.
>>713239775>n-nobody fears youI'm sure one day you'll be able to convince yourself of that
>>713236663THey stated that windows wanted to be like that, retard. Itยดs called windows 365
>>713240108Why did you sign your first sentence, but not the second?
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>>713221620MS releases security update for 11 but no for 10 and developers drop support in order to not be responsible if you get your shit exploited while using their software.
>>713240294I'm still curious about making win 7 work on a modern system. I'm not in the mood for fiddling with OS at the moment, but the next time I do a full format I'll probably look it up and/or make a dual boot with some linux distro.
>>713240437I don't know what the last GPU supported by AMD on 7 was (probably 5000 series or something), but 4000 series and later Nvidia won't work on 7.
>>713218475does Bruno Mars is gay?
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>>713240882I liked him in Good Morning Vietnam.
>>713218074 (OP)>Steam will uninstall itself and all your games will be deletedaren't there people still using it on 7?
>>713241084Yeah, they initially planned to force an update that broke it, but the backlash made them reverse that and just say "When it doesn't work eventually, you have no reason to complain."
>>713231898>w7 #3errrrm troonixxisterx?