Thread 713230786

Two pair has literally never failed me. If you talk shit about two pair, you're objectively retarded.

high card chads disregard this rube

>>713230786 (OP)
High card, and even pair, is better. Sorry, loser.

36 hours in and I still haven't unlocked everything. I hate the RNG and my lack of skill.

For me? It's 5 of a kind.

>>713230786 (OP)
I have never seen a Balatro video in my life so I've only beaten max stake on a single deck and don't know what the fuck two pair even means

>>713230786 (OP)
tell me you watch balatro university without telliing me you watch balatro university

cards are not video games

>>713231451
two pair is a basic poker hand
it's just like it sounds, if you have 5 cards and two pairs, like 55899

two pair scales like shit and whatever you're doing with it you could be doing with any other hand

>>713231451
you've unlocked and beaten gold stake without every playing a two pair?

>>713232021
they could have made the pants do more than just +2 mult every time to compensate for how weak it is.

I keep using abandoned deck as my crutch, easy five of a kind/flush five sometimes even a straight flush build

>>713232126
it honestly works to benefit the pants because you can farm more shit hands without winning to stack the mult quicker

why would I ever do this over full house

>>713232293
because it's easier?

>>713232228
If you need some number of chips to win a round, and the you can only feed the pants until you hit the limit, isn't it better the fewer hands this takes? Let's say you add 2 mult every hand. Then your score looks like C * (2 + 4 + 6 + 8), which is scales with the square of the number of hands played. Yet you only end up with 8 mult at the end.
If you were to add +10 mult every time, you could play C * (10 + 20) to get roughly the same score and win, but now you end up with 20 mult on the card because you didn't inflate your score with intermediate hands.

>>713232628
I guess in a hypothetical scenario where pants was way better it would be more efficient? As it is currently you want to play as many hands as possible because it won't be good enough on the rounds when you'll need it otherwise.

>>713230786 (OP)
two pair is good but straights are the best
>>713232293
i never understood full house. it always felt kind of crap to me
>>713232178
5oak is kinda eh because theres miniscule amounts of extra scaling compared to 4oak. the main difference is the base values. you might as well go 4oak over 5oak in almost all cases or just go flush five

>>713232841
bro your naninf?

>>713231109
5oak is a lot less appealing when you look at the scaling compared to 4oak and flush five. i used to take 5oak a lot and then i realized its just inferior to 4oak

>>713232903
yeah i didn't get naneinf. my best run was using a strat that is impossible to get it with. i dont feel like grinding for it though im kinda just done with the game now and ive done literally everything else

>>713230863
High card fags fall apart if they don't get op jokers.

>>713232939
I don't ever bother with it, if I'm cloning something enough for it to be feasible I just tough it out and wait for flush five opportunity, because playing 5oak once just adds an extra planet card to the pool to fuck up your packs

>>713233047
thats why i only go high card / pair if i get good jokers for it

two pair with the pants is pure kino

>>713230786 (OP)
It's the best hand you don't need any deck manipulation to play consistently, that's for sure

For me it's flushes with smeared joker/checkered deck

>>713230786 (OP)
this but superposition. this joker is the ultimate brainlet filter. all noobs think it's bad because they either don't understand how it works (they don't realize u can do Ace 5 4 3 2) or they don't realize how to deck fix or they don't realize how broken saturn scaling is. it literally feeds itself it gives you the deck fixing to proc it more

>>713233047
I mean what doesn't?
On max stake it's retarded that certain jokers can just be in the pool, because... Rerolling 900 times is good actually

Game that respects players time: balatro isnt
Needs an advanced algorithm to ensure every run has at least one winnable path by picking the exact right things

>>713233792
how would you possibly know the "exact right things" without being able to see shops and hands down the line?

>>713233792
you sound like you are just bad at the game. it's not very luck based to win even on gold stake

>>713233662
>I mean what doesn't?
you realize you can win jokerless right? also most jokers in the game are good you don't need a specific few of them to win

>>713233881
Yeah it is even the best player has like a 10% winrate outside of one specific deck

>>713233863
i think he's saying the game should use an algorithm to check each seed to make sure it's winnable and it shouldn't give any unwinnable seeds to you. but you don't need that in the game lol

>>713233936
How do you win jokerless on gold stake?

>>713234127
There's no effective difference between an unwinnable seed and losing a winnable one because you couldn't forsee the pieces for a magic winning build across ten future shops.

>>713234230
The difference is no skill could save you in the former.
>There's no difference if your seatbelt is broken if you don't crash!

>>713234117
ok im not sure what you mean cus balatro university has really high gold streaks and he doesn't just play one deck

throw out your ideas of how you would rework this card

>>713234204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89bQmpePwfI
ive only done the challenge but it has been done. get good i guess?

>>713234312
And what would the criteria for a winnable seed be? Do you know how many permutations of any one seed there are for every single choice you make?

>>713230863
High card only works if you get the set up two pair is way easier

also im pretty sure even i have much higher than a 10% winrate on any of the decks for gold stake lmfao just pulling numbers out of your ass

>>713234426
Well I'm sure open AI has the power to do it. Make it so

>>713230786 (OP)
It's all right when you're starting out and want to play medium value hands because you don't know enough to run the other stuff. I prefer pair though.

>>713234316
he also doesn't play live and openly admits to backing up saves so his streaks are meaningless

>>713234470
go back to india saar

>>713234457
How many times do you reroll the starting tag and how many are yellow deck?

>>713234470
>dude just have an ai play the game for me
you bailed out of this dumb idea in the first post and are just rambling now huh?

>>713234545
For starts they could just allow every joker to show up. Right now it selects joker pool per seed so there are jokers that you will not get even if you reroll 9 billion times

>>713234316
>I like that jump/cheatengine

>>713234534
i never reroll the starting tag

>>713234675
Yellow deck shitter confirmed

>negative flower pot
>I'm running checkered deck

>>713234316
>balatro university
Does this autist get paid to play for hours every day or something?

>>713234696
rerolling the starting tags just becomes a waste of time, it's a lot easier to just play the first round and hope for a good shop than fish for tags to get a FREE perishable polychrome egg or a FREE eternal rental obelisk

>>713234802
You don't get shut in the shop without a yellow deck. Again make every joker in the pool and use supercomputers to make every seed winnable

I hate the Plant and the Psychic so fucking much

>>713234341
>+1 gold at end of round
>permanently upgrade +1 each time you trigger the boss blind

>>713234898
you will always be able to afford at least the joker pack, you literally have no idea what you're even asking for

>>713234950
>he didnt purchase directors cut

>>713234971
I had a run on checkered deck with like a level 60 something flush and never got one single x mult joker this impossible

>>713234341
Plus mult for every debuffed card played

>can't play plasma deck for shit
>cheese gold stake with triple stuntman
Feels good

>>713234950
>psychic

huh? you love square joker that much or what

I seem to get good jokers once every 20 runs. I have only beaten 3 decks in 12 hours. Am I doing something wrong or is it always like this? Should I just quit early if I don't get something good from the start?

>>713235179
>can't play plasma deck for shit
chips and xMult, avoid flat mult as much as you can

>>713235221
I tunnel vision and forget to play 5 cards, this shit is just boring

>>713235179
How can you cheese a game that is made to cheese?

>>713235040
>checkered flush shitter thinks the game is too hard
Stop the fucking presses.

One can only wonder how many opportunities you ignored because they didn't fit the plan you had in mind before the game even started. You'll say none of course but you wouldn't know because your flush blinders wouldn't let you see them anyway.

>>713235267
I've seen people try to clone a card with DNA while on the needle and dying too

>>713235241
Whether a joker is good or not is just up to context. There's some jokers like the banana or the popcorn bucket that should be treated as an early game buildup or a last ante desperate grab. Focus on one or two different hands per run, preferably one if you can help it. Tarot and planet cards are essential. For me, focusing on two pair while whipping out a full house from time to time works. I try to balance jokers having mults and some adding chips while applying Lucky and Bonus to as many face and ace cards as I can. There's a lot of other basic strats too, like only settling for higher cards, using some jokers early to build them up like the pants or some jokers that are just good until your run builds up speed (+4 mult joker, $4 at end of round joker). Get into the business of optimizing jokers.

>>713235527
Sometimes you get shit like negative diet cola too

>>713235491
probably the biggest choke of my career and I did it within a week of the game releasing

good times

>>713235360
Its just impossible to get the insane chips needed especially if you never get a boss reroll voucher or joker

>>713235703
>400k chips is insane
bro please play the game more

>>713234341
just let it work on the boss blinds that feel like it should activate on, but doesn't

>>713235527
that's basically my strategy and it has worked with blue, green and yellow but red is impossible. i never get anything decent playing that deck.

>>713235241
>3 decks
Is that all stakes or what

>>713235982
Red deck is harder for me as well. Discard isn't as beneficial as a boost to money, a hand, another joker slot, etc. Discard actively removes chances and the rng can be bullshit. Too many times I've discarded shit like a 5, 1, and an 8 and got a 5,1, and an 8.

>>713235965
Matador works on Club, Goad etc., It just doesn't seem to register on flushes

>>713230786 (OP)
PANTS ON HEAD REPORTING IN!!!!

is there a good reason to redeem pic related?

>>713234341
literally just make him work
i dont mind his effect, what i mind is that it doesnt work constantly

>>713236309
maybe
>5oak/similar run
>good jokers already
>desperately want more consistency

>>713236309
So you could unlock the upgraded version for you collection. Other than that, skip it.

>>713236309
Hologram

Which one?

>>713236135
discard helps you find stickers and nice cards, and use anything discard-based more effectively

>>713234696
yellow deck is a good deck wtf

>>713238012
theyre not upgraded so none, unless you're on a specific deck and need more of those

>>713230786 (OP)
The deck that won my game included a negative Supernova (adds mults on how many hands you played of that type and Negative meant it didn't take up a slot), Spare Trousers (which adds mults on how many two-pairs you play), Square Joker (which builds chips on how many four-card hands you play), all of which were acquired early on.

My run didn't produce any single hands more than 50k chips, but two-pair was the path to success.

>>713235527
The first time I got Gros Michel it got me through a good portion of the antes and the second time it fucked me over by disappearing on the second round, then Cavendish never showed up.

im going for all gold stickers, today i got >>713236304 and campfire

>>713239084
C++ seems so unfun
I am content with getting C+

>>713239176
its not too bad so far, just feels like "do you enjoy playing gold stake or not"
i only do one or two runs at a time, usually lose. Im at 200 hours (with some afking) and im like 70% done

I just really, really like Baron

>>713240863
That's kinda gay desu

>>713232841
5oak's value isn't in the scaling, it's in getting to play 5 scoring cards with effects.

>>713232939
It's better because it has one more card which does something when scored.
If you reached a stage of fixing your deck enough to consistently play 4/5oak bonus from planet cards barely matters to you.

>>713239176
It's actually pretty fun since it forces you to play with Jokers you wouldn't normally, or to play down 1 Joker slot. I will fully admit that once I got near the end, I was brainstorm mod rerolling so I got a guaranteed 25 dollar skip and then I'd play out the 2nd blind, open the joker pack, and restart if I didn't get one of the last few I needed.

>>713238197
it's the color of piss

>>713232178
>want so desperately to make seance work
>can reasonably make a build for straight flushes
>manage to make seance proc reliably
>most of the spectral cards aren't good for straight flushes
>the jokers you already have are needed to make it consistent, and i never have slots, so not even the rare joker one is worth it
t-thanks jim

>>713234950
>playing straights on ghost deck
>2 discards
>the mouth
>can't find a straight
>try to throw some cards away with a hand
>246 chips
>oh thank god a straight ill just-
>this hand wont be scored! (must play pair)
>hear jim chuckle

>win a run in 12 or fewer rounds
how do i do this one easily? one of my 2 remaining locked jokers

>>713246180
You skip, what a dumb thing to ask.

>>713246701
>does something

wheres the update you guys were telling me about all those months ago? you didnt LIE to me did you

>>713247048
It was all just a __joke__

>>713233863
you can if you just alt+f4 mid run

>>713247371
this artist forgot you can use hands as discards

/v/, I wanna hear your predictions: how hard is the upcoming content update going to fuck over and ruin the game permanently?

>>713249715
It'll be fine

>>713235942
Yeah on white stake I can get millions ofc but when u unlock more jokers u get worse and worse joker "pools"

>>713249715
They're nerfing high card.

Is this game fun? I heard its rougelike poker or something? I normally don't like rougelikes

>>713245736
God, I’ve been there. You finally get Seance clicking, but the only spectral card that doesn’t straight-up *kneecap* your hand is like… maybe Soul Charger? And that’s if your deck is already humming. Half of them are just "do 3 damage to yourself unless you’re playing a full house while standing on one leg". Feels like Jim designed it out of spite for people who enjoy synergy.

>>713254347
It's addictive, but by the time you get to gold stake you're most likely going to be rolling for the right setup unless you follow some reddit meme build or the like. There are quite a lot of synergies but the safest/most reliable to win on gold is high card/pair as they synergise well with most of the scaling common jokers. Once you've beat black deck gold stake, you have earned the right to spout whatever shit you like.

when's the fucking update

>>713255440
soul charger?
>tfw checked the wiki and learned seance can't even randomly get soul/blackhole
back to the drawing boards, i vill figure this fucking joker out

You did get your completionists + and ++, right?
You do know that when the update comes out these will become harder to get, right?

>>713254347
i highly recommend it. specifically as a phone game, which i feel is the perfect format for it. if you own it on steam, you can convert it to an android game with https://github.com/blake502/balatro-mobile-maker
otherwise it is also on google play. it is addicting, but i truly believe it is fun. i want to play it because i love trying different combinations and seeing what i can get away with. when you are rerolling for a perfect early game setup, getting frustrated with bad runs, or trying to play the exact same way every time, i would recommend going back down in difficulty because that is a boring path. you unlock difficulties by winning, and gold stake is fucking painful if you will it to be. i treat the game like team fortress 2, i am farming screenshots of the funniest deaths

>>713258464
>if you own it on steam, you can convert it to an android game with https://github.com/blake502/balatro-mobile-maker
you don't need to own the game to do that

Played Balatro for the first time in months. Beat red and green stake with the plasma deck, so that puts my deck wins at 55/120. Almost halfway there…

>>713258865
well obviously if you were just going to pirate it you could just download the apk too, why would you even bother with a converter in the first place?

>>713260554
for the lolz

>>713234341
If you play something like 5 debuffed cards, it should proc for every single one.

When the fuck is a real content update?

>>713256090
>but the safest/most reliable to win on gold is high card/pair as they synergise well with most of the scaling common jokers
Hopefully the new update adds some more variety. I heard LocalThunk is changing the -1 discard from blue stake which I hope gives more incentive to play larger hands.

>>713236309

Hologram and Blue Joker.

Otherwise it's absolute trash.

I haven't played Balatro in a year or a little more, has much about the game changed since release?

>>713266118
think vampire got nerfed among other things

>>713266118
Literally nothing except some dumb indie game skins.

>plays gold stake
>open Buffoon pack
>sees eternal rental madness
>take
>next ante, eternal rental green joker appears
>monkey brain activates
>take
>rest of game is desperately searching for econ, mercury and good eternals to keep myself afloat
>flops and dies on big blind Ante 8
Why do I do this to myself?

>Wee Joker
Oh yeah, it’s gaming time

>>713249715
>upcoming content update
Really? When?

>>713266118
the one singular update last year changed orange and gold stake, nerfed a few jokers and made blue seals amazing, among other things I can't remember

>>713234426
It's not like that's impossible to imagine, developing a rougelike always involves accounting for permutations to make it winnable.
There were literally clearly unwinnable seeds before the patch that made the first shop always have a joker pack, so it's already been changed for this reason before.

>>713246180
Lots of blind skipping

>>713231451
Its weird to me that youve know what poker is, let alone played Balatro and you dont know what 2 pair is....not to mention 2 pair is so adequately self described that even if you have never played poker you can easily guess what 2 pair means

>>713231451
So you didn't play the tutorial and you don't look at the hands ever or read the planet cards? This doesn't make any sense

>>713259630
Eternal Egg

>>713266870
>Wee on ante 1-3
Free run
>Wee on ante 4-6
Pushing it
>Wee on ante 7-8
What a waste

how do you respond without sounding mad

>>713271870
swashbuckler

>>713246180
white stake
yellow deck
pick up xmult and planets at every opportunity
if you get directors cut remember to fucking use it on the boss blind that SPECIFICALLY COUNTERS YOUR JOKERS HOLY FUCK IM STUPID, POLYCHROME PAREIDOLIA AND CANIO WAS FINALLY POPPING OFF. IT EVEN GAVE ME BUSINESS CARD AND SMILEY FACE I WAS SO FIXED FUCK AAAAAAAH FUCK ME

>>713232763
oh, I thought you mean pants itself is better because it's weaker, not because two hand is weaker.

how do i beat gold stake?

>>713271870
>casually struts up and slaps a temperance on his shell

>>713272641
the same way you beat every stake before it, turn your deck into a single card and get the idol

>>713230786 (OP)
>4oak
>magic deck
1 strength is all it take

>>713272641
you must adapt, you might be playing straights one ante and three of a kinds the next out of desperation because half joker is somehow your mult engine. check what the boss blind of an ante is while you are in the first store and be willing to change your strategy right there
>save money in multiples of 5, so interest scales. stops at 25 without vouchers, try to maintain money above 25 until you have a money printer
>prioritize +mult at first. common cards are better than nothing, a +12 mult will get you through the first two antes to save money for interest
>make sure your jokers are setup to have +mult on the left and xmult on the right
>grab scaling jokers, you can't be picky
>only grab +chips in the beginning if you are playing weak hands and already have a +mult
>build up planets and card buffs so you can eventually get rid of +mult jokers
>have a money printer so you can reroll the store more and justify rental jokers. lucky cards count
>do not use skips if your jokers require playing hands to scale, you will be outpaced
>do not use skips for negatives unless you are already doing very well
>you wont win consistently, gold stake is for cock and ball torture

>>713234368
It's like listening to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuGITTmwt2M