Thread 713232724

>game fanart community
>filled with talented artists and such
>game AI art community
>filled with schizos and mentally ill discord fags
What makes it like this?

You can start by paying AI artists what they're fucking worth.

>>713232724 (OP)
>>game fanart community
>>filled with talented artists and such
least disingenuous tranny kek

>there's no mental issues in our community
sista, who are you trying to fool?

>>713233650
I'll pay nothing for this random generated scam attempt. In fact, I'll stop paying for games altogether because there are too many of them and now you're being smug about lazy entitled whiny loser mentality.

>>713233824
>>713234729
Now look at the AI community

>>713234895
Now look at your own community.

>>713234895
It hasn't been around long enough to have the crazies really pour out of the sides. Handmade artists have been insane since before the internet. That's not forget Van Gogh. Modern crazies were on Tumblr and Twitter. They are a really spiteful and elitist group of people, now trying to form a guild/union and push out AI use as a tool. That's just pathetic. They basically became SAG/AFTRA. I'll just use AI and stay away from the general threads.

>>713232724 (OP)
Sloptards mad.

>>713235020
Now look at the AI community.

Why is this anti-technology mindset on 4chan of all places? I expect Tumblr and Twitter, and other art ho ass social spaces to have this kind of mindset. Doesn't make sense here. You're going to tell me you have a problem with this tool, and yet worship Nintendo? They don't produce anything but crap over and over again. You wouldn't surprise me if you revealed shiguru miyamoto died a long time ago and an AI took over his ideas production.

>>713235156
Now look at your own community.

>>713232724 (OP)
The "talented artists" are also schizos and mentally ill

>>713235156
>Now look at the AI community.
Take these then find a different job if you can.

Why is the fanart community filled with schizos and mentally ill discord fags?

>>713235390
This has always been the case for artists

>>713235390
A lot of artists that make it around the social circles become elitist hipsters. Much like social activists in politics, everything becomes a purity spiral. If they suspect someone is guilty of blasphemy, racism, or whatever form of sin they perceive, they go on a witch Hunt. Since AI challenges a lot of their rackets and gatekeeping of artistic expression, it's become their new devil. When Trump leaves office I expect all of the energy to go into opposing AI.

>>713232724 (OP)
AI artists are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy nicer than regular artists. They share prompts and teach you how to do exactly what they do which is such an amazing innovation in the world of art.

>>713235291
>ad hominem
I won

>>713235786
>post mortem lorem ipsum
you lost

There's isn't a community more deranged than the artist community.

>>713235732
I'll teach you how to draw too anon, but first you have to pick up the pencil.
>b-but I can just proompt....!
Don't care. Not art.

>>713235997
the AI artist community.

>>713236839
You are replaced. Never gonna win.

>>713234895
>>713235020
>>713235156
>>713235263
Now look at me. I'm on a horse.

>>713232724 (OP)
AI is overwhelmingly enjoyed by pajeets.

The artists community is overwhelmingly lefty liberal brain aids infected.

>artist community
>just a bunch of people who draws, can have different opinion
>AI artists
>a fucking hivemind with people that thinks identically
Why?

>>713235997
>>713236839
These kids. They think AI is so good, that it's such hotshit. They forget it was artists scribed the imaginary fetishes they carry on their shoulders and now prompt and train said AI on through adulthood. Fanmade horrors beyond AI's comprehension.

>>713233650
K i can go as high as $0.

If you want the stupidest most retarded and braindead take on any topic you can think of, just look up what an artist on twitter writes about it.

>>713235390
This just of stuff predates ai. The equivalent witchhunt prior involved accusing artists of doing paint-overs. That is taking a photo and digitally painting over it. I think it probably did discourage some artists who were trying to develop a realistic style. It's hardly worth the effort if your paintings become good enough your own peers think you cheated.

>>713238106
>If you want the stupidest most retarded and braindead art in any style just look and AI generated piece. It even comes with brainrot scribes in the form of "prompts".

Artists brought this upon themselves, they get no sympathy from me.

>>713232724 (OP)
0 moderation
they really need to revamp the report options

>>713238537
True

>>713236594
>"THATS NOT REAL ART."
>won't post their own art because it's shit and they know it
You're just proving how much of a retarded faggot most regular artists are.

>>713233650
>ai artists
>artists

>>713238579
>0 moderation
And that's why you guys can have a general here. Be grateful.

Nothing brings me more joy than seeing mentally ill artists in roleplaying chatrooms begin to lose their position of immense power, and seething about it.
These people are surrounded by sycophants who constantly enable their neuroses and kiss their ass in the vague hope of receiving a sketch of their shitty OC in return, but now they rapidly realize AI will do that for them. And the artists are truly mad about this.
I truly hope many of these stupid nerds will stop drawing once the mediocre pedestal they've stood on is broken.

as an artist AI has been a blessing because there is much more demand for non-AI art now

yesterday I generated 1girl,bikini and posted it on twitter. Still at zero followers.
I thought this was supposed to be easy.

>>713239690
post your twitter

>>713239690
you forgot to add
(((((big boobies)))))

>>713232724 (OP)
You can't even fathom the scale of mental illness among artists.

>>713239690
armpits and feet easy

AIsloppers have zero taste and just spam pure garbage.
One in a million AI images looks good and I'll save it, but when you don't have the motivation or work ethic to learn to draw in the first place, you won't have the taste or put in the effort to make your slop palatable.

AI doesn't take a 3 months break for depression while you wait for your commission

>>713239826
>returns
>oh you asked to add that tiny detail to your drawing?
>it was on character sheet to begin with?
>that will be 100$ extra

>>713232724 (OP)
trannies are incapable of creating anything you
all they can do is copy other's work
just like they try to copy female looks
but they fail miserably in both cases

>>713239735
>multiple parentheses prompt
That is sooooo 2022.

>>713239994
The best artists are always gay men.
Even for female characters.

>>713239826
>>713239989
>Unsafe image content detected

>>713240087
>The best artists are always Japanese women
FTFY

>>713232724 (OP)
low barrier of entry

>>713240214
>using closed source
You got no one to blame but yourself

>>713240325
>using open source (tailored to barafurfags)

>>713240551
>using closed source for porn

>>713240628
>The "open source" being based on just a censored closed source they released for the data mining.

>>713240960
>he doesn't know about the open source models trained on millions of results off booru sites like r34, danbooru and the likes

>>713241413
>he doesn't even know how this "open source" model initially came to be.
You can subject it to as many fanmade horrors as you want, it's never not going to be shit. You can perhaps train it to make wild cards of the same broken record image batches you train it with but at that point you may as well quit while you're ahead and just fap to the source image lol.

>>713241591
You're the retard who said open source were based on censored closed source models, and just from that alone it makes it very clear you don't know shit about AI.

>>713232724 (OP)
Barrier to entry

>>713234729
>mostly just poc
Jesus christ you guys need help

>>713241941
your mom's panties

>>713232724 (OP)
I feel like you guys are forgetting Tumblr from a few years ago, that site was filled with artists and it was severe mental illness asylum incarnate.

>>713241742
>You're the retard who said open source were based on censored closed source models, and just from that alone it makes it very clear you don't know shit about AI.

Just re-posting it in case you decide to delete it.

>>713242137
Not an argument, go to a local model download site like civitai and you'll see that pretty much every hentai porn open source model is based on boorus. You're a retard, you don't know what you're talking about and you're fresh out of arguments, simply as.

>>713242226
>Not an argument, go to a local model download site like civitai
Which is censored lol.
>you'll see that pretty much every hentai porn open source model is based on boorus.
It's based on over a decade of Nvidia orbs pondering themselves and manipulated data you jackwagon.

>>713242312
>open source local models
>censored
Holy retard lmao. I bet you're confusing citivai's own posting guidelines with the model's actual capabilities like an absolute drooling retard. You can gen the most degen stuff so long as you don't post it on civitai.

>It's based on over a decade of Nvidia orbs pondering themselves and manipulated data
Sweaty, these are USER trained models, not big corpo models, they're open source for a reason, the users can thinker and train them.

>>713242490
Sweaty, these are USER trained models
>which still use grok/"openAI"/Flux/an actual gigafuckton nvidia card data center creating the foundation to the shitty image sets you train.
You may as well fap to the image sets. It's all it will produce. Various wildcards that will perhaps woo the casual observer.

>the users can thinker and train them
But can the coomer user afford and have ability to be in a partnership with Nvidia for some A40's to actually make it viable or will they just keep using the censored ones they already released?

>>713242742
Again, you keep confusing civitai's guidelines (wich are like 4chan rules) with the model capabilities. Not long ago, the site had to carry out a massive purge of porn posts which once again prove the uncensored capabilities of the models. As for training, you're just making shit up, it all depends on what gpu you have, I myself have an old gtx 1080 and even I can train small models, some characters specific models are barely 200mb in size. And the big sized ones that are 6GB can be made only with powerful gpus, sure, but non are censored like you claim. In fact, you're yet to prove how are these hentai models censored, but I doubt you'll do.

Alright I'll try generating a nintendo girl with big boobs in a bikini and see if I can get my first follower

>>713243246
I'll follow you

>>713242226
>>713242312
I find it hilarious how much illegal porn is on civitai just out in the open like that.
It really goes to show that nobody gives a fuck.

>>713243620
yeah they're supposedly getting mods to sort of clean the site and even then the porn supply posted every minute its just too much for them lmao

>>713243674
Even with AI tagging they cannot hope to remove underaged anime girls(and boys) from getting porn generated of them. It's simply impossible.

>>713234729
kek

>>713234895
>they make cool stuff and aren't insane
?

>AIshills
Lol

>>713244246
If anything, NFTs proved people see no inherent value in art lmao

>>713244246
>nfts
>AI
>completely different things
anti-AI people have low double digit IQs

the seething never ends

>>713244615
The joke is that it's the exact same shilling posts, articles and "arguments" that AI nigglets love to use here and everywhere else.
It's the same kind of knuckle-dragger that thinks itself smart for shilling AI slop that was shilling NFTs 3 years ago. And i have 0 dobuts that you do it for free.

>>713244168
>aren't insane
Kek

>>713244513
AI art does the same to some extent, some tards can't enjoy a piece of art for what it is anymore, they first got to look up for its labels before they can enjoy, if it says artist made its good, if it says AI made, its bad cause they're biased. And if they can't find the label, they autistically try to find details that may give it away to place their biased judgement, and even then they sometimes get it wrong. To them, art is no longer about enjoyment, but about ideological fight or whatever.

>>713233824
>"t-tranny"
>every booru filled with AI generated nigger porn

>>713244820
There is no joke, you're just a retarded schizo grasping at straws because you can't get over AI existing.

>>713244861
>t. an insane person projecting

>>713244981
As far as I remember all the tests are made by AI bros who specifically choose the worst of human art and the best of slop.

>>713244981
>>713245472
This was the experiment:
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/how-did-you-do-on-the-ai-art-turing

>>713234729
A lot of this is just quality art, some of it deluded, one's just a meme. What's the point being made here? That drawing brown characters is mentally ill? It's clout chasing or virtue signaling at the very worst. Only schizos on this board have mental issues that fill their mind with blacks, and they sure don't make art of it, they're too busy editing wojaks

>>713245540
Yea I even participated in it. It's what I said, the test was made by an AI shill who specifically chose the worst of human art and best of slop, combined with the fact that you can't zoom in the results ain't that unexpected.

>>713234895
I started frequenting AI threads recently. I know you're going to say otherwise, but I didn't notice anything significantly different or more schizo compared to creative generals on the site, though that may be because a bulk of posters there have enough self-awareness to stick to their containment zone.

>>713245540
if you want to lose some brain cells read the comments kek

>>713244981
>>713245472
People cannot tell the difference especially when you get into newer models and photorealism.

another artranny seethe thread kek
you will never remove our general off this board as the jannies have said time and time again that we are are allowed here

get fucked loser

>>713245858
Good morning saar

>>713244981
It's almost like it's not about AI art and more about the existential threat AI poses in replacing us lead by a 100+ year long corrupt world government and retards don't understand their points enough, can't keep up or are too embarrassed or scared to talk about it... or something like that. Maybe give us our robot maid blowjobs already.

>>713246340
just stop being a schizo

I find that the most vocal people who shout the loudest about supporting real artists are also the type of people that never commission anything from us. Why is that?

>>713246639
Okay Dr. Epstein, time for my meds

>>713246340
>are too embarrassed or scared to talk about it.
Artists are. That's why they attack the generated pictures and split the hairs in two instead of just admitting it's about the craft and their livelihood, which is actually a completely understandable concern.

The mentally stable AIjeet community
https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/Temmie/type/op/

>>713247189
If they just acted like regular humans most people would be on their side.

The mentally stable drawing community
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/type/op/order/asc/width/2194/height/1565%20/

>>713245630
Exactly. The whole thing was rigged from the jump to produce a desirable headline. Most of the human art chosen looked like DeviantArt-tier from 2004, and the AI stuff was clearly cherry-picked from top-tier high-res generations. No zoom, no author attribution, no context—so of course normies get duped. But the moment you toss anything stylized or deliberately expressive in there, it breaks their dumb little test.

>>713249340
You're admitting that good AI art is better than bad drawn art without even realizing it which is the whole point. People say AI art is shit just because it's AI which is so juvenile.

>>713232724 (OP)
I don't really care tbdesu, people can enjoy whatever they like

backfired thread #65
trust the plan, next time will be the lucky one

>>713250826
This was the intended direction of the thread. AI niggers have even more fragile egos than artists, of course they'd rush to it

>>713232724 (OP)
samus srape

:'(

sex

>this is the best effort AI general can do to raid
Do better next time.

>>713233650
AI shartists are only worth something for their organs. They should be harvested for blood until they die.

dang, you guys really hate my guts and I'm just merely chilling and genning my really obscure waifu

>>713253206
Fuck off buddy.
Gen it in fucking reddit or something. As long as you are here you better start preparing for everyone to shit on you.

>>713253206
PAY
ARTISTS
REEEEEEEE

>>713254179
omg chat is this real?

>>713254206
yes of course

Even for artists making money, you have to be especially arrogant and delusional to believe the way you work currently will endure for 50+ years. This has been true in every field and every job.

>>713245091
Now lets see where the AI got it's training data from...
Oh.... all the artists....

>>713255896
>small percentage of AI models is art
>artists say it's all thanks to them
big cringe

Anti-AI troons acting as if the majority of all art, music, movies and games are all good quality. That's literally never been the case.

>>713235390
Im a proud ai slopper
Artfags are mentally ill faggots

>>713235732
This kek
Ai sloppers have sovl

>>713232724 (OP)
>OC-centric thread gets made
>good artists enter the thread, starts drawing fresh OC
>other anons laugh along and post art made by others
>thread is very active
>the mod notices the thread
>tranny janny throws a tamper tantrum, can't have fun on this board
>this thread has been pruned or deleted
no wonder why /v/ became creatively bankrupt, and we aren't even the ones to blame.
you only see OC now if its a game that's well received and gets plenty of fanart (deltarune, stardew valley) or its a massive blunder (concord, TLOU2).

i wish there was an inbetween where vidya related OC was allowed and encouraged, its became so stale now. save the X and draw your ideal duo threads were kino but alas

>>713235732
>They share prompts and teach you how to do exactly what they do which is such an amazing innovation in the world of art.
Sometimes. Now that some sloppers have started selling their slop, people are getting kinda weird with their prompts. Big shame

>i wish
mommy's pride

>>713243151
Wait these faggots are so mentally ill they claim hentai models at censored
Heck you can post insect hentai l'ora on civitai if you are sneaky enough saved me the trouble of training one myself tho i will have to train one with more stuff regardless of certain artists anyway

>>713257457
You're just zooming in on a 0.00000000000001% of them that might not share. Ironically most of them are Japanese in my personal experience. And it's got nothing to do with money, it's just a weird ego thing, a holdover from old artistic methods.

>>713257620
Same goes for art. Most fuckers(that you don't deliberately find in the deepest pits of xitter and 4chan) will gladly share their methods with you if you ask like an actual human being

>>713246639
Shalom
How the weather is tel Aviv, raining rockets today too?

>>713233650
You mean AI transartist? Well I will pay them as much as they worth which means they will need to pay up for wanted oxygen they breath

>>713237969
Too much.

>>713235156
What community? They are all mentally ill scammers and grifters.

>>713257823
You can't share those in the same way so there's not even a conversation to be had there.

>>713234729
>cat smoking
ok but could AI actually do that?

>>713258819
i guess not. pushing back my AGI predictions by another 5 years.

>>713258494
yeah I can't find the clip I had though
https://x.com/venturetwins/status/1936258019240874447

>ai artist
>floods kemono.party with black guy porn

>>713246787
I just want less shit on the net. AI generated crap gonna overflood net and bury civilization like mudflood hurried Tartaric.

>I just want
cute

>>713259590
crying helps

>>713233650
I prompted this shit with my own fucking fingers

>>713259661
Did it help you to get money from your ai scam

>>713259950
>schizobabble

The problem isn't that you can't make nice images with ai, because you can. The problem is that you don't have the same control as an artist, no matter how many words you use, or controlnet, or any other things, it's not the same as someone deliberately choosing to draw something the way they want to.

It's just endless gambling, which is why I think ESLs won't shut up about it. It's perfect for keeping their attention

>>713261763
RNG Gambling on a smaller scale

>>713232724 (OP)
Drawing/painting is a skill you hone over months and years, while AI "art" is mostly instant gratification.
Not that artists aren't also menhera in their own right. Creative pursuits run on emotions, so it comes with the territory. At least they can say they have trained a skill and create things with their hands however. AI "artists" on the other hand, they don't really have anything to be smug about, yet they always seem incredibly bitter towards artists or just anyone who doesn't like the internet being flooded with fake images.
What I find strange is that I don't really see the same thing with chatbot people. People using chatbots or GPT for test answers or something tend to get shit on, yet no one gets upset. No one defends websites or articles being being written by AI. Is it just because it's harder to run locally (at a decent quality) or something

>"art"
nobody calls it art, give it a rest tranny

>>713261684
You have more control than artists do.

>>713261684
you know you can mix both drawing and AI right? you have more control than ever

>>713262876
All that matters is what you produce though. Saying you put in the effort doesn't mean shit when your art sucks. AI artists have that over the vast majority of regular artists. They don't put out pure shit.

>>713264392
That's because you're a bugman with no appreciation for the efforts people go through to accomplish something

>Daily Cry About The DALL-E Thread General #599
ROR
RMAO

Why does it take an artist three months to draw me a single picture when I pay him $100?

>>713254287
That's obivously fake, the bar would have fallen when that zebra touched it.

>>713264710
You are objectively just a mad fart sniffer. There is no merit in bootlicking.

>>713265375
It's real, the bar is just made in America.

>>713259987
Yeah, that is good name for AI(actually Indians) output

>>713263601
Sadly most if not all AI protompters never edit their creations and some do not really that much of editing to be actually decent

>>713265520
I find these people pathetic is all. It's one thing to enjoy slopping on your own time, but then it's always /v/ for some reason that gets booty blasted when someone says they don't like AI, as if it was some kind of life's work to be defended. All you do is put a prompt into the program and let the computer mash together existing art into something you want.
Why is it /v/ that does this anyway
I don't see this happen on any other board I use

>>713266468
It's one particular ELS european refugee/furry schizo

>>713266468
I don't know what else to say other than that you are a pathetic person. You think you're owning strawmen by whining about the art they make. Is this cope or are you just autistic?

>>713264392
>They don't put out pure shit.
The vast majority of "ai artists" have filled every single site that allows user uploaded content with thousands of terabytes of pure shit so I disagree with this take. I have eyes, you aren't tricking anyone.

And process matters. No one wants to be served shit slop that took no effort and was created through a fire and forget approach. Just like no one cares if you have a machine that automates stuff for you, the compliments go to the machine that does it and the researchers that created it, not you. Reading a book is more commendable than just mindlessly listening to an audiobook. Taking a walk or a bike ride is more virtuous than just driving or taking a ride. And actually drawing or painting will always be viewed more favorably than shitting out an AI generated image.

>>713266690
>The vast majority of "ai artists" have filled every single site that allows user uploaded content with thousands of terabytes of pure shit
Didn't happen.

>"ai artists"
give it a rest tranny

>>713266591
what the hell is "ELS"?

snarky faggot you know what I meant

>>713234729
Digital "art" sisters...

>>713267008
>too much of a coward to reply to posts directly
Go back faggot.

>>713232724 (OP)
>ITT: Indians seething.
Thanks for the thread, anon.

>>713264863
>>713245858
>General
>on /v/
>>>/vg/

>>713267431
>>ITT: Indians seething.
>look inside
>mostly seethe about AI

is this the slop thread?

>>713267761
There is such a thing as a spiritual pajeet
Not a pajeet by blood, but by action and mentality
Behave enough like one and your soul will become befouled and shitty, just like those of Indians

>>713265731
now make her blow something else

I laughed.