Thread 713246391

>Oh cool, I can get achievements for my old favourite comfy classics! I've been itching to replay some of them so this works out great! Let's check out the cheevos.

>Beat insane boss that darts around the screen at light speed throwing out 100 projectiles a second and has a 5 minute runback without taking damage
>Do austistic speedrunner technique that requires 13 frame perfect inputs in a row
>Beat game in 7 minutes and 30 seconds
>Beat game at level 1 without using any items or weapons
>Beat game without getting hit

T-thanks...

play niggerfaggot games, win niggerfaggot prizes

That's what you get, cheevwhore

>>713246391 (OP)
Just get the ones you can get.

>>713246391 (OP)
The no damage Unknown in KH1 final mix is total shit but I think they keep the no damage bosses relatively fair. Start with the Mega Man games if you want no damage boss ones. A lot of those guys are heavy pattern based and meant to go down fairly easy damageless with their weakness. With a few exceptions like Slash Man and Air Man.

I hate Retroachievements but what you are describing is what achievements should always have been, not "beat the first boss", "beat the second boss" etc

>NOOOOOOOOO I NEED TO 100% ALL OF THESE ACHIEVEMENTS DESPITE ME BEING DOGSHIT AT GAMES
Let me guess: you also beg Fromsoft to make the rollslop games have an easy mode option

>>713246391 (OP)
Yes, and it's very fun

no hit bosses are acceptable, what's not acceptable is rng or grinding. I love RPGs but I will never master one on RA. just my janky PS1 games from my childhood

>>713246391 (OP)
my favorite part is when you do it, and it doesn't unlock anything

>>713247167
Fuck you faggot, you made me remember this one fucking childhood trauma

>Want to play Japanese game
>RA only supports English version

>>713247310
undub patches
unless you're one of the rare few that can read Japanese and prefers it that way to hone your reading skill, then yeah you're SoL

>>713246391 (OP)
imagine ruining classic games with fucking achievements

>Check retro achievements for old coop games
>The games achievements were made by a single player playing incel

KEK

>>713246391 (OP)
Which game requires frame perfect inputs only to avoid damage?

>>713246391 (OP)
Play PS2. Not as much autism there.

>>713247496
most tend to have 3 or 4-frame windows for perfect guards or whatnot, as normal guarding makes you still take some chip damage

>>713246391 (OP)
Reject cheevo hunting. Retvrn to mods.

>>713247496
Any of the old monhun games without evade skill.

>>713247578
>MHFrontier and the Perfect Guard (Lg) skill, that not only rewards you with triple stacks for skill activations (on shit like Rush, Furious and Obscurity), but also sends out a 72MV (no crit no element) hitbox
>also has the perfect 'CLANG' sound
I have never had this much fun with a fucking MMO of all things.

>>713247578
Somehow I didn't think about playing monhun with RA

>>713246391 (OP)
Just make your own sets and make them as easy or hard as you want.

>>713247576
Cheevo hunting got me into romhacks

Imagine caring about fucking cheevos.

>>713246391 (OP)
On the one hand, when I first got into these I ended up putting more time into some games that I might've not otherwise. I also stopped abusing save states like a bitch. On the other hand the people making these are way too autistic with these hard for the sake of being hard self-imposed shit. Best solution is to just play a game normally, get some of the progression achievements along the way and if you really like the game, do a second playthrough to clean up what you missed. Trying to optimize your playtime by stopping every 5 minutes to check what the next achievement is turns a game into a checklist.

>>713247857
>bro just do it yourself
>who cares if most of the best games already have try hard sets, do a shitty homebrew game
>it's totally fine for a game to get constantly revised to add a couple more cheevos that a few autists demand

The lack of quality control makes most masteries not really worth pursuing, there are some good sets though. What makes it novel to trophies or Steam cheevos is that each achievement list has a win condition for when you beat the game, so it's a good motivator to have you push through some more difficult games you otherwise would've given up on or resorted to save states for.

Cheevos for retro games would make sense if they helped you discover things that you can unlock or are difficult to obtain, not be "do this extremely inefficient thing for absolutely no logical reason and nothing will happen in game if you actually do it"

>>713248814
>Cheevos for retro games would make sense if they helped you discover things that you can unlock or are difficult to obtain
A lot of them do have achievements for finding secrets and hint at how to do things in games without explicitly telling you.

>>713248618
The f-zero GX mastery is fucking R E T A R D E D

Who cared about achievements made by trannies

>>713249065
Good morning retard

Threadly reminder that if you're going for masteries and such, you're using RetroAchievements wrong. The whole site basically just acts as a way to share in playing these games with others.

>>713249101
YWNBW

>>713246391 (OP)
I only have one mastered game (and a few records for said game)

If beating the game or doing a 1 credit or no death run isn't an achievement enough for you then you get what you deserve having others dictate what an achievement list should be.

>>713246391 (OP)
Is it site policy to make achievements basically as hard as they can? All I see are damageless for bosses, why not beat the boss without getting hit more than 3 times or something, would that generally be too easy and not worth making an achievement for?

>muh cheevos
I 'member when people played games for fun and not solely to get a shiny little object.

>>713249580
>I 'member when people played games for fun
Soooo..... achievement hunting?

>inb4 noooooo rushing through the game and then moving to next game is the only way to have fun with vidya!!!

>>713248041
Took a while for the usual faggot to appear. Get out.

>>713249580
You remember when autists played to get their name on the high scores, unc. This is no different.

>no achievements on the shitch 2
No wonder mentally ill tendies are still seething about achievements. Maybe next gen things will change

>>713249682
Who can dethrone AAA? Who is this beast of gaming? How has he mastered every game!? I DEMAND ANSWERS

>>713249372
They basically want to avoid the usual official achievements sets which are pretty boring but they end up veering way too hard in the opposite direction. When I first started using the website I used to go for some of those absurd achievements. What I think finally broke the spell for me was Aria of Sorrow.
>Beat a boss on hard, without taking damage, under a specific level, without using mana or only using a very specific soul, only using a specific weapon
After the 10th attempt I just had to stop and ask myself why I was even trying this shit.

>>713249707
>Maybe next gen things will change
I've been saying that since the Wii U. The faggots will never properly implement them, forget it.

>>713249682
High scores were directly linked to fully understanding game mechanics, many cheevos aren't

>>713249725
skill issue

>>713249725
I want to write a screenplay crime drama where they're chasing after a murderer who only attacks in arcades and then proceeds to beat the high score on a machine to leave a clue to the police, leaving only the name ASS

>>713249764
You won't master many games on this website unless you git gud at the games to the point where you learn everything they have to offer mechanically.

>>713246391 (OP)
Just play in softcore and have fun : )

Wii wen

>>713250059
DOS first

>>713249743
lmao weak

Yes, anon. Many old as bricks games have very little depth and the possible cheevos reflect that. What cheevo would you put in SMB1, for a simple example?

>>713253319
Stomp 1,000 goombas, justifying replays of the game.

>>713253319
Get all possible 8k shell kicks.

I like ans defend achievememts (not goimg to get into why anti achievements fags are fags), but a lot of achievements are ruined by being stupid, like online only or grindy like kill X 100,000 times.

People always openly co.plain about these things, so would THINK the people who like achievements enough to make retro achievements for old games would make smarter and better achievements, but they doubke and triple down on the retarded shit. Like why bother? Its just further proof tor that the more active, talkative, and motivated to action people are the generally less intelligent they are.

Also, even if they were good, I am not interested in arbitrary challenges set by faggot ass redditors. I assume (though not certain) normal, official achievememts are decided by the actual devs of a game (sometimes I wonder though), which makes more sense.

RA is stupid as fuck, top to bottom.

>>713249580
I don't think it's bad as long as people use it as motivation to replay something rather than try it for the first time. Also in the worst case scenario, you can reset progress and turn the damn things off, and I'd love to be able to do that with platforms that do these things officially.

>>713249743
I finished Aria of Sorrow's set but the mosy annoying part was needing to finish the game like 4 or 5 times. Just became a "who's enough of a loser to wanna do this" exercise.

Julian boss rush <4min was tough but at least it was challenging and fun.

>>713246391 (OP)
This was more a problem before they added the mark for just having beaten the game normally. Now you can view those crazy challenges as something extra. It used to be that you literally got no recognition unless you 100%d stuff

I flip around whether I like it or absolutely hate it.
Sonic CD's set includes the dev times, which are very hard to do. Something that should be a subset, but is instead kept in the main one.
You take a look in the forums, people try and get it changed but the devs don't listen.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles has the opposite problem., where the current set is good, but some dipshit who doesn't know English is coming in to change it and make it shit.

I'm currently wrestling with the Crash 3 set. It's fine, but it requires getting the Platinum Relics.
...fuck speedrunning lol

Generally I just think the site needs better standardisation. Set quality is all over the place, and devs have sticks up their asses.

>>713249635
No. The mocking will continue until you course correct.

>>713246391 (OP)
They're called "achievements", not "checkpoints", pussy.

>>713247234
skill issue

>non-canon achievements
LMAO

>>713247364
Retroachievements requires very specific versions of the game since it recognizes them by checksums, so you can't just add whatever patch you want.

>>713246391 (OP)
A lot has changed over the years with RA but you can just report the achievements as unwelcome concepts.
>>713247457
Yes, the main set is single player. There are subsets specifically for multiplayer

How prone to drama are the devs/runners of the site? Do they act professional or nah?

>>713254734
>I don't think it's bad as long as people use it as motivation to replay something rather than try it for the first time
yeah trying new things is bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>713256493
>There are subsets specifically for multiplayer

And sometimes? There aren't

>Classic arcade game
>Zero cheevos
>Shitty old console port of said arcade game with shit graphics, gimped audio & cropped visuals since it doesn't support TATE
>Full cheevo set + bonus

>>713247000
Based and checked
I'm playing through Luigi's Mansion and it's just as good as I remember. I never played Pikmin 2 before but damn that's kino

>>713256534
Not much drama, but it general they've heard the "waah I want all the achievements for game x but I don't want to work for them, remove all the hard ones" complaint so many times they're extremely tired of it.

Why not just make up your own achievements

>>713256170
You retards are only making a mockery of yourselves. Exposing yourselves as the filthy casuals you are.

>>713256948
No way to prove you did it without cheating, no profile to show them off on, no social aspect, no competition, no community. Many reasons to use a site like RA

>>713256535
Not what I meant. Rather I think someone who uses post-hoc achievements as motivation for a replay is the ideal case, preferable to someone who's achievement-addled to the point they won't even try something if achievements aren't waiting for them.

>>713257051
>No way to prove you did it without cheating

Record it. People do shit like this all the time and post it on youtube.

>>713246391 (OP)
beating a game =/= mastering a game

>>713256538
>And sometimes? There aren't
then make one. it's community driven.

>>713257227
who gives a fuck?
if a player is willing to try a new game to see what it's like, it doesn't matter in the least what the reason is
people have many reasons to play X or Y games, and you're there saying "uh yeah but you tried the game WRONG!"
faggot

>>713258148
Guess I hit that nerve pretty hard.

>>713257051
>can't imagine doing something for personal enjoyment
>only plays games se he can show off his virtual achievements to his gay internet friends
Beyond grim

>>713258762
Achievements give me personal enjoyment.

>>713256534
The best ones are very professional. But there's a concerning amount of trannies invading the site, t b h

>game has no built-in cheevo reward system
shant be playing it

>>713258821
>>713259054
You don't like games

>>713259165
You're right, I love 'em, that's why I go for achievements.

>>713246391 (OP)
If you think a set is too niche you can voice your opinion and limit to a subset
You can see for yourself how many are actually able to beat those

I've never looked at someone else's video game achievements in my life and I never will.

>>713259468
NOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>713258339
>heh I said something retarded so I win
you don't even care about vidya, retard nigger

>>713258821
Achievement unlocked, enjoy.

>>713246962
No fuck off. The only ethical way of implementing achievements is as progress trackers. The autistic shit in the OP always feels arbitrary and completely removed from the fucking game. If achievements cannot be integrated into the game's actual gameplay then the only right move is to make them as non-disruptive as possible.

>>713260240
Checked the page, it says you're the first obtainer, nice.

>>713258919
such is the price to pay for becoming too popular.

>>713260504
If they were meant to just be progress trackers they'd be called progress trackers and not achievements.

>>713260648
Well they're called achievements and yet you're not achieving anything. Funny how that works.

I hate achievements because I have completionist autism but at the same time I just want to enjoy the fucking game and not worry about completion rate.
The most fun I've had with games was when I was a teen and pirated the newest game I saw being talked about and just fucking played it. No distractions, no achievements pop ups, just pure gaming. If I could hide achievements on Steam I would. The only social aspect of gaming I'm interested in is inviting my friends to a co-op game or a multiplayer match. Fuck achievements, fuck customising your profile and fuck all of that superfluous shit that isn't playing the damn game.

>>713261138
>play game normally
>look up achievements you missed
>replay game if they sound like something you want to try
This isn't hard.