This was the moment I knew gaming as a whole fucking sucks. This piece of shit is the greatest piece of work of all time voted by actual players themselves? Really? Video games are a toy. A joke of an "art form".
>>713263184 (OP)Have you ever played it?
stop this, we've already had a "greatest game of all time" official ranking
>>713263184 (OP)that's ign. they're not gamers they're activists
>realizing this by 2018
Newfag
27 million votes were cast in this entire bracket
>>713263184 (OP)normalfaggots ruin everything they touch
this has been known
>>713263321 we must be...better men...
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>>713263184 (OP)>movieslop>best video game???
>>713263184 (OP)A polling group of like 10 faggots.
Better than outdated boomer games like OoT mario 64 or whatever gay JRPG you like
Quit crying old fart
>>713263184 (OP)>Onions of War: Better Men Edition wins best game everwow that sucks it could've been much better-
>beating GTA 5 in the final roundnever mind, it was doomed
>IGN
>X
So the GOAT game for retarded brownoids and pajeets?
Got it.
>>713263184 (OP)This is just one of many reasons why I'm washing my hands of modern gaming. Consoomers get distracted by shiny keys visuals, but gaming is a fucking joke when compared to the PS2/GC/XB gen
>>713263768A polling group of like 27,000,000 faggots.
>>713263184 (OP)Developers of this game have no understanding of mythology and the combat is fucking boring
>>713263541>>71326396327 million votes, not 27 million voters, by the way. That's 27 million votes across 126 contests, or about 214,000 voters per game on average.
>>713263184 (OP)>the game that everyone forgot about after a month is the best video game of all timewtf?
>>713263184 (OP)LOOOOOOKIIIII
TRICK MY ENEMIES AND YOU CAN HAVE MY WIIIIIFEEEE
>>71326369360 billion people voted, the world is woke now, you are a dying breed, chud
>>713263541>portal 2 above the sims 3On what planet
I sure wonder what amazing video game /v/ would have picked as the greatest of all time.
>>713264063We all had her
>>713263412How can you play a game without that doesn't have gameplay?
>>713263541Almost every single game here fucking sucks.
>>713263412I've played it and it was the most boring action slop with RPG elements I've ever witnessed. Whole game reeks of marketing department desiding what game should look like basic on their market analysis.
>>713263184 (OP)>astrobot wins vga game of the year>god of war voted #1 game of all timeMmhmm, sure this isnโt just journalists sucking up to Sony or anything
we really need to begin separating "best video game story" from "best videogame" when talking about these all-time rankings. This is getting embarrassing
>>713263665You clearly haven't played batman arkham city. It's far better than any rollslop
>>713264638>27 million votes by random people>durrrr its journalists
>>713263665normalfags worships capeslop, it's part of their religion
>>713264659You realize this is common in character action games twat
>>713264726Yeah, because Gamergate taught us all that gaming journalists are credible sources that donโt have agendas to spin, retard.
It's insane that /v/ is the single-handedly keeping IGN, PCGamer, Polygon and others alive by posting everything they post.
>>713263412yes I watched the first 3 hours of it with the controller in my hand. the original god of wars are infinitely better. if you genuinely think this a good game you are a brain-addled retard with literally no standards and tastes and your exposure to video games is severely limited
>>713264638I mean, The Game Awards is pretty open about crowd votes being 1/10 of the actual decision, it's always been openly rigged
>average sony kino enjoyer
>>713264460in the old games you play as bad man
in the new games you play as better man
I choose to play as better man cause I want to be better man and respect women
>>713264830Wtf does that have to do with a poll anyone can vote in you autist
Coming home from work at the nft hospital to find your nazi son mashing B to make Kratos fuck egyptian wartime prostitute in 4k PS6 graphics when gaming is fibally back
>Daily /v/ nuGoW melty thread #2362
I love how many people's entire personalities on this site revolve around seething about this game.
>BRO ITS LEL MOVIE
ok stream the game and beat the game on the hardest difficulty without dying once
>>71326526195% of /v/ couldn't make it past the draugr pit fight on GMGOW if their life depended on it.
>THIS IS THE PEAK OF GAMING BRO
The brown and bloom error is wasted
>>713263541>Burnout 3 beating WoWbased
>>713264173last of us part 2
warcraft 3
heroes 3
one of those
>>713264967I look like this
>>713265432Zasedโฆ so heckin zasedโฆ
>>713265021They sure as shit don't respect you, faggot.
>>713263184 (OP)>IGN readersso did they just ask chatgpt what the best game is since they've been supported by bots for at least a decade now?
>>713263184 (OP)Lol even some mid Jrpg shits on that
>>713263412Honestly it sucked ass
God of war is a movie about being a dad and a mediocre hack and slash game stapled together, each half constantly getting in the way of the other because they don't know how to use the medium of games to tell a story so they just jam in cutscenes and those awful forced walk & talk segments
And don't get me started on the dogshit camera, why am I forced into the worst third person angle possible? Who thought this was a good idea?
>>713263541>IGN who cares
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>NU-GOW IS SUPERIOR TO THE OLD ONES BRO
>NU-GOW ACTUALLY HAS A STORY BRO
>NU-GOW ACTUALLY HAS EMOTIONEL DEPTH BRO
>PLAY NU-GOW ON THE HIGHEST DIFFICULTY BRO
>KRATOS HAS MATURED BRO
>KRATOS ISN'T PROBLEMATIC ANYMORE BRO
>KRATOS ISN'T TOXIC ANYMORE BRO
>KRATOS ACTUALLY HAS RESPONSIBILITIES NOW BRO
>KRATOS ACTUALLY HAS TO TAKE CARE OF HIS GF'S SON NOW BRO
can't wait for the tv show
>>713266515There's a saying in media, when making a show or story.
>Is this the most interesting part of the character's story? If so, why aren't we there?That's not to say you can't have simple or calm parts, but they need to serve the purpose of getting to the interesting parts of a character's story.
The old GoW had that. It had the downer beginning to immediately jump to why the main character decided to kill himself, explored through a big set piece. The new GoW failed at that immediately. Kratos is not moving towards an interesting part of his life, and it has to quite literally knock at his door ten minutes later.
There is so much "Why aren't we there?" in the newer GoW that it's sickening to think that the reason it gets away with it from a story perspective is because the player has a controller in their hand and can press the left joystick forward.
That's not good story writing, that's a crutch.
>>713267035>if soFuck me running. I missed something important.
>If NOT so.
>>713263412plays like that jurassic mobile game Infinity blade
>>713266515The old ones were shit, but holy shit bro, the new ones are literal walking simulators, this nigga literally doesn't even run, ever.
I NEED THE VIDEO OF THE NORDIC MEN CRYING IN A LAGOON WHILE HUGGING EACH OTHER.
>>713263541>Half-Life 2 lost to Rise of the Tomb Raiderholy fucking pleb. Zoomers need to be killed.
>>713263184 (OP)Both games are designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator. The result is the equivalent of claiming Transformers is the best movie of all time and that the runner up was fast and the furious which everyone knows to be false.
The only thing proven here is that the masses are mentally challenged and that the foundations of democracy should be revisited and updated.
As for your statement about games relation to art, i disagree. Not only video games have as much right to be considered art as movies (considering the creation of both involve pretty much the same disciplines) but there is no other form of cultural expression that accounts for interactivity, which is a defining trait of contemporary culture. Off course not all games could be considered art in the same way not all movies are. Namely we should consider the industrial aspects of it and how some times itยดs more about the manufacturing of a product rather than about expression. We should also take care to consider that certain technologies involved exist only to speed up production in detriment of the use of real artistic skill. AI aside industries have developed stuff like motion capture to avoid animation and all kind of procedural tools to build up NPCs and whatnot.
Big studios using these tools are certainly not making art but by itself that doesnยดt mean games canยดt be art as it still possible to use the more traditional methods in creation on passion projects.
>>713266515I think both suck shit.
Now what?
>>713264335So you haven't played it
>>713263743You sound like you have broccoli hair and have never kissed a girl.
GOTY
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>>713263184 (OP)Neither of those two games were even GOTY.
>>713267924I just want to tell you that God of War 2018 (this applies less to the sequel, because that isn't that highly regarded anyways), will be seen as a highly overrated game in retrospect. You know what happened to Fallout 3 and Skyrim? Both were highly critically acclaimed. Both were considered the 2 greatest games of all time, now people rate them more appropriately. The same thing will happen with God of War. It's an overrated game that will be considered a 6/10 in the future. Give it 10 years or so.
>>713263184 (OP)Based. Now mald you stupid faggot. /v/ would choose something infinitely gayer and worse like TF2 or something.
>>713263184 (OP)Were you born yesterday?
Where were you when normalfags said that Heavy Rain is "the future of gaming"?
>>713264929You're describing Half-Life 2, not GoW. Easy mistake to make since /v/ dickrides that game so hard
>>713263541>Runner-ups are two GTA games and BOTWGrim
>>713268290You never played HL2 tho
>>713264803Not really, but also, God of War probably doesn't have enough mechanical depth to fit in that group. It's more like one of those 3D brawler games you'd get on PS1 or PS2 that were sort of spiritual successors to shit like Streets of Rage, before people realised those kind of games were always gay. They repurposed that genre once gaming hit it big with Joe Retard and execs realised the simplified gameplay would appeal to those types and well, here we are
>>713268462You say this but if I gave you 3 hours to beat Sigrun or Gna on on the highest or even second highest difficulties, you still wouldn't be able to beat either of them
>>713263184 (OP)ytf r u following IGN?
>>713268146>indie trash>goty
>/v/tendo seething at Sony superiority
>again
Guys chill you've got Switch 2 sales charts to celebrate. And uuuuh Mario Kart.
>>713268606NTA, but just so you know, a game being difficult doesn't necessarily mean that it has good combat or gameplay. What actually changes with the higher difficulty settings in GOW? Do enemies just get more health and do more damage? Because that still won't change the game being poor on a mechanical level.
>>713265021u dont fuck women! ha ha ha ha
>>713263184 (OP)GoW 2018, BG3, TW3, and E33. THE QUINTESSENTIAL REDDIT GAMES. For the last decade.
>>713267924games should be harder not easier
In 2025 I don't know a single person going back and revisiting God of War 2018, or even putting it on a pedestal. It's largely been forgotten. RDR2 still gets brough up and is looked as a standard setter for the industry.
>>713269174All the praise and attention was superficial. It was mostly Sony marketing to sell the game.
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>>713269339Even the fucking memes were literally CREATED BY THE STUDIO THEMSELVES. So cringe and manufactured
>>713269174>>713269339I played it for the first time last year and I thought it was okay
>>713263541>imageLiterally just old thing bad new thing good.
>>713269486Which is correct most of the time despite what 40yo millennial manchildren on /v/ think
>>713263412I watched the cutscenes on YouTube which is 90% of the โgameโ and itโs prime emotionslop
GOOOOODSSS IMPLORE STARBUCKS TO BRING BACK THR ICED CHERTY CHAI
>>713264803Not in any of the good ones.
>>713269569Shut up and eat your remakes, zoomer.
>>713263541Nigger beat trannies
>>7132635412/4 #1 seeds knocked out in the first round
other 2 knocked out in the second round
>>713269480You are gay and retarded tho
>>713269938I'm a zillennial, zoomers and millennials are both retarded
I liked it. Greatest of all time? Hell no, but man you guys have such a fucking hate boner for nu-GoW even though both are very fun and good action games.
>muh walking simulator
There's literally more action gameplay in nu-GoW than the vast majority of games you guys play. You just post the same .webms of the few "walking sim" scenes for the story as if that's the entire game.
Also, they're hard as fuck on give me god of war, the vast majority of you scrubs could never beat the Valkyries or or the Valkyrie Queen which just tells me you guys never actually played these games in the first place, you just hop on the bandwagon of circlejerk hate to fit in with all the other contrarian retards who saw a .webm of these game and decided to hate it for that.
>>713270252I may be gay and I may be retarded but uh... wait what was that third thing you said
>>713270449Again, hard gameplay does not make gameplay necessarily good. Too much time went into the "cinematics" instead of the gameplay, which has resulted in bad gameplay.
>>713264687Arkham, Witcher, AC, Shadow of Morder style of combat where you press square to automatically combo multiple attacks through a crowd of people surrounding you is perhaps the most brain dead gameplay ever.
>>713270686You guys really didn't play the games and it shows. You're just follower simps who parrot what all the other contrarians who have been told to hate these games by /v/ over the years.
There's plenty of gameplay in both games, more than most games in general. I don't see you guys complain that something like the witcher 3 has a ton of cutscenes or story content. I don't see you guys complaining that something like resident evil does. But god forbid a game have some walking segments where the characters talk and the story is developed, god fucking forbid the entire game isn't a non-stop action sequence.
>>713269174RDR2, Subnautica, and Kingdom Come Deliverance were all better games from 2018. I donโt think itโs particularly close either.
>>713269453Like with The Last of Us. Remember when it won Game of the Year, and the developers had the Banderas meme recreated with Joel ready to celebrate?
Such a serious masterpiece, guys.
>>713271125>But god forbid a game have some walking segments where the characters talk and the story is developed, god fucking forbid the entire game isn't a non-stop action sequence.NTA and I do like God of War, but I do think all story should be relegated to skippable cutscenes. It's just better for everyone
>>713271125Dude, open your fucking eyeballs and read the fucking post. You can have 0 (ZERO) cutscenes and have 100% gameplay, and that gameplay can still be bad. There is BAD gameplay and there is GOOD gameplay. God of War has BAD gameplay, it doesn't matter how much it has if it's bad.
>>713263412play what? the whole thing is an interactive movie. you can just watch it on youtube.
>>713271125>You're just follower simps>Itโs good that games have long following sequencesAu contraire, retard-kun. Our palates are incredibly refined.
The original GoW games are so much better. The 2018 one is a feminist version of Kratos. The Constant "We must be better" is similar to real life where feminists say "do better" to you when you call them out. The whole game was just propaganda since Kratos is way weaker and more pussified compared to his younger self. Also the kid doesn't shut up and constantly tells you what to do if you take like 5 minutes with the 'puzzles'.
>>713268146wrong list.
2024 went to astrobot.
2021 went to some other shit
2020 went to tlou2
2019 went to sekiro.
>>713270449>they're hard as fuck on give me god of warI LOVE hitting tree trunks
>>713263184 (OP)Is it that bad? I've never played it.
>>713263412Yeah and its okay. It has a few fun cinematic boss fights and I thought the narrative was decent, especially the stuff with Baldur (sorry i mean uh its onions!). Puzzles were boring, all the "RPG elements" sucked and most of the side content was extremely forgettable. The combat was decent and weighty but the fact that there are only like 5 enemy types makes killing the same exact troll guy for the 10th time really repetitive and the flying elf enemies are the bane of my existence, especially in that one elevator fight at the end. I'll probably play ragnarok at some point. It's a decent game and I'm not gonna judge someone for enjoying it but it's far from GOAT status
>>713263412>>713263184 (OP)Your answer: normalfags. This was bound to happen once shit like halo took off and started introducing normalfags into vidya.
>>713271431The gameplay is objectively good in both games buddy, there's tons of it, it's challenging, and it's fun. There's multiple weapons and a large variety of attacks and skills to use with each. Both are great action games that stand on their own. Guarantee you didn't play them.
>>713272752Ragnarok has a lot more woke and subversive shit, and the Ironwood segment is like pulling teeth. But it has lots of really cool bosses and enemies, especially compared to 2018 which was its biggest weakness
>>713263184 (OP)It's why I pushed for the death of the AAA video game industry, PlayStation, and Xbox. It feels good to see my dreams finally become a reality.
>>713272163Itโs his own personal game of the year list, retard
>>713269174I love how /v/ will shit on GoW 2018 and call it woke cinematic bullshit with no gameplay and will then shill RDR2, a game that's at least 10 times as woke and with way, way more cutscenes and walk & talk sections, in the same fucking sentence.
>>713266315is this the scene where he says 'oof'?
>>713263541>GoW beat Starcraft, a game that defined gaming for a decade and created the concept of e-sports>By a 90% victoryI think this is the most disgusting thing about this list, and I don't even like Starcraft that much.
Not only is the entire field bad with horrible choices and leaving out genuine gotyay contenders, but they have no concept of tournament seeding whatsoever.
Everyone involved in making and participating in this should be blacklisted
>>713263541Rockstar wishes they could make a BOTW quality game. But only casuals uses IGN, even their own workers are dumb and misinformed. Spreading literal fake news even weeks and months after something has been clarified.
>>713273595>But only casuals uses IGNAre you implying BotW is some hidden gem masterpiece that only really hardcore gamers know about?
>>713263184 (OP)>This was the moment I knew gaming as a whole fucking sucksIt took you that long? What a retard.
>>713273757Considering they only play western games yeah
>>713270449>>713269815OP is about GOW18, not that Sweet Baby slop
>>713263184 (OP)It's mostly mutts and their kind who spend their time with these votes, so yeah don't expect anything
>>713263412I have. Gameplay is generic, story is paper thin, characters all one dimensional . It's B at best game
>>713273931Lmao. /v/ tendies really are delusional.
Jedi Fallen Order\Survivor is the new og GoW, it was directed by Stig Asmussen and you can feel it.
>>713264205He married her.
>>713264063OOOOOOODIN! LEAVE MY WIFE'S SON ALOOOOONE!
Which games should be considered for greatest of all times?
Games that are pinnacles of game design, And have great presentations as Video games And are deeper/more complex than the average game
Examples are:
DMC3/5
Heroes of Might and Magic 3
Starcraft /Brood War
insert fav From game here
insert fav Capcom fighter here
Ninja Gaiden Black /2
Nioh /2
MGS3
Zelda TotK
Age of Empires 2
Games that should NOT be in this consideration:
Jack of all trades master of none games like GTA
sandbox/toybox games that lack game design directing players to have an amazing time, eg. Minecraft or most multiplayer only/party games
Games that while achieved their intended game design goals, those goals were simplistic to begin with, this includes simple platformers or pretty much the entire FPS genre, including HL2, which despite /v/'s hypocrisy and nostalgia, is hardly different from cinematic simplistic action games like nu-GoW
>>713274452>hack n slash/action RPG good>FPS badRetard
>>713263541God of War (2018) beating Starcraft with a 90% vote is genuinely offensive.
>>713275303You think normies played StarCraft 1? You think they're capable of understanding a game like that? For fuck's sake man, they need that fucking little retard in GOW to tell them how to solve a puzzle after not figuring it out themselves within 1 minute
>>713274452as a Zelda fan I feel offended you consider Totk the peak of the series you cum gargling faggot Majora's Mask beats it at everything you listed, be it presentation atmosphere deeper and richer setting and more engaging gameplay
>>713265021Get off my board, faker.
>>713275437it's not even a subjective experience thing. Any upper-case G-Gamer should understand that Starcraft is a historically important game and nu-GoW is derivative slop. You don't need to have ever played StarCraft to know this.
>>713263412How do you play a movie?
>>713275303Based. Starcraft and by extension anything Blizzard has ever made sucks shit.
>>713263541How come i didnt know about this? How come /v/ didnt hack the results like always
>>713275619By holding forward like in Half-Life 2, which is /v/-core.
>>713263521With what it caused to an entire genres of games Dark Souls can be seen as THE game of the 2010s.
>>713275683Every 90s kid knew Blizzard was the kino-machine, never release a bad game ever. Every game a GoTY.
WoW killed Blizzard by giving them infinity bux and no desire to make anything good ever again.
>>713275718>thinking /v/ can hack or do anything that requires genuine skill
>>713275718what makes you think they didn't?
>>713267658>The old ones were shitLet me guess... you think Devil May Cry is so much better.
Based IGN NPCs
GoW 2018 has some of the best third person action gameplay of any game. It's a massive improvement over soulslikes, since it doesn't require lock-on camera.
Funny how you guys want RDR2 to win yet complain about movie games.
The problem with new God of War is there's too much narrative which leads to these extremely long segments of the game with you just standing around doing nothing, waiting for these characters to stop talking or walking/rowing boats doing the exact same thing - waiting
People might claim the original God of War games aren't for "modern" audiences but that didn't mean the games had to become boring and slow paced. Even the overly narrative sections of the original God of War games happened when you were playing or during intense cut scenes which quickly throw you back into the game to engage with what just happened
Old God of War games could tell the story and keep the gameplay engaging, for some reason new God of War games cannot
>>713274656dota2 (just like all the other mobas) is ultimately not a great game despite it's well designed complexity. I'm saying this as someone who was fooled into playing probably over a thousand hour with it, and I regret almost all of it.
The game just doesn't create you many great memories for the time invested in it (and I'm saying this as someone who also spent hundreds if not thousand+ hours in other competitive games like rts or fighting games). It doesn't have the great presentation/variety in presentation and power fantasy that for example fighting games have, and in general it's a lot more timewastey, there is a lot of downtime where you are not doing particularly engaging tasks in it, that you kind of just forget about later, tricking you into wanting to play more.
>>713274715yes
90% of the FPS gameplay is the equivalent of "click on this icon on the desktop fast", just with nicer presentation
Not saying they can't mix in other mechanics too, but the very basic action of just clicking on things to make them disappear is very overwhelmingly what you are doing in them, and even adding a few layers of complexity on that like non-hitscan weapons that you have to time/space a bit differently doesn't give these games anywhere near as much complexity that most competent hack n slash games have in their fundamentals. Also don't confuse complexity for difficulty. Setting some "brutal difficulty" mode (or online play) in an FPS can be very difficult as it requires very strict timings with your aiming, but that doesn't make the game more complex.
>>713263184 (OP)This is how boomer dancers feel when they see their art degraded to twerking.
>>713263541>Skyrim better than OoT Top kek
>>713275718bro please the raiders all left for 8ch a decade ago and never came back.
Modern /v/ can't even raid a fucking mmo let alone unsecured polls
>>713275451I could have put "insert fav Zelda game" there like I did with From/Capcom FGs, since there are multiple similarly high level/competent choices to pick from, and picking any specific one is kind of nitpicky. Mainline zeldas mostly all have both great and varied game designs, I put TotK there because that game just adds a stupid level of options on an already well designed Zelda game
>>713276751You are literally just plain retarded. There may be less kino FPSes than melee-focused action adventures, but to act like it's some sort of inferior genre that isn't even worth mentioning when discussing the greats is retarded. Half-Life, Doom, L4D, Halo, and Resident Evil 7 are absolutely on the same level as DMC, Starcraft, and Ninja Gaiden. And you think FPSes are limited but not fighting games, which is probably the most limited gaming genre ever? You're just plain fucking dense and have no idea what you're talking about. Fucking pseud
>>713273389RDR2 has 1 woke side mission about an old racist man and then Arthur suddenly tries to be virtuous. The feminist parade wasn't woke. Because Arthur straight up said he didn't give a fuck about women's rights and only agreed to the job once they gave him money. It's also way better written and has much better dialogue than God of War if we're going to get into the story. The actual content, and quality of the game also curve stops God of War into the ground. Santa Monica would be totally fucking lost if they were tasked with making another Red Dead Redemption game following 2. GoW 2018 lackw identity and felt like it was made in the vein of Naughty Dog and Ubislop development choice's.
>>713263184 (OP)It's a great game and most fun I've had playing vidya in 15 years. Cope & seethe
this man single handedly destroyed video games permanently
>>713275718Because nobody gives a shit about IGN AWARDS HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS ARE SO UNBELIEVABLY SUBHUMAN
>>713263412I did and I still regret it. I will never touch this franchise anymore, they took a huge dump on the fans when they decided to make this lowest common denominator reddit shit
>>713263412Yeah and I didn't enjoy it. Kept throwing wave after wave of the same generic zombie filler enemy at me and my reward for slugging through them was watching a mediocre movie. I get that the production values were nice, but having a big budget is not enough to wow me.
>Because nobody gives a shit about IGN AWARDS HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS ARE SO UNBELIEVABLY SUBHUMAN
>>713275778You should re-play that game being generous with the "re-" because you are mistaken about how that game plays.
>>713263412I did and it was so boring I don't even recall how the story went. The gameplay is also utter slop and only gets slightly fun at that "challenge of the Titans" planet, then drops to shit again. They ruined GoW.
>>713263541Having single player and multi in the same rankings, is always retarded.
>>713263541You can look through this and it's full of shit like
>>713277346Garbage poll of garbage people. Some highlights:
>Chrono Trigger lost to Burnout 3: Takedown>WoW lost to Call of Duty 4>Ocarina of Time lost to Skyrim>Diablo 2 lost to Witcher 3>Final Fantasy VII, Resident Evil 4, Super Mario 3, AND Bloodborne all lost to Breath of the Wild
>>713277335>you think FPSes are limited but not fighting games, which is probably the most limited gaming genre ever?you are confusing "limitations" of "role playing" (eg. being able to freely roam in an fps game) vs limitations in game design goals
your goals and the gameplay you will do as a result of this design in fps games is far more limited than it is in fighting games (or most other genres). In an fps you will progress in an area, siluette appears, you click on it, rinse and repeat (ofc there can be variations with enemy survivability and behaviour but the fundamentals are these)
in a fighting game in neutral you have have dozens if not a hundred+ options at your disposal with all the moves and techs you have, and thousands of combinations to continue those options.
don't forget, fighting games literally have the most amount of terms/concepts in the entire gaming.
also, I'm not claiming FPS is a bad genre, but if you have to discuss the absolute best of the best then yeah, I think so far there is any FPS game out there that I would put among them. Also not saying that a well designed FPS game doesn't worth a playthrough, the same way I'm not saying that a game like Super Mario 3 doesn't worth one, I just think there are too many options to fill a greatest of all times list, even if you want to includ dozens of games in it.
>>713265261Anon, people are calling it a movie because one third of the game are classical cutscenes and another third are "totally not a cutscene because you have to hold down forward"-cutscenes.
>>713266315>>713277772Absolute cinema!
Hollywood writers and directors would be jealous if they saw this.
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>WE NEED TO BE BETTER MALES
>TYRONE CAN YOU CREAMPIE JANE THIS NIGHT ? THATS BECAUSE MARIO KART IS OUT AND LE SHAWN ( OUR/YOUR SON WITH JANE ) IS PLAYING WITH ME
The state of the west under judaism
>>713277368>The feminist parade wasn't wokeThe retard typed unironically. Let's ignore how pro-minority rights Arthur is for a white guy in 1900. Meanwhile, the most "woke" thing that happens in GoW 2018 is that there's one woman in the game and Kratos hasn't killed or fucked her by the end. GoW story isn't fantastic but RDR2's is complete dogshit, literally the Arthur part of the game goes like this:
>"Arthur, I have a plan">"Dutch, your plans fucking awful and they never work">"Just do it Arthur">"OK"Repeat that 60 times until Arthur dies, then you get to spend hours shoveling shit in barns and other interesting gameplay activities as John.
>Santa Monica would be totally fucking lost if they were tasked with making another Red Dead Redemption game following 2And what, Rockstar could make a sequel to God of War no problem? Dumbass, they have the most dogshit gameplay in the entire AAA industry. A literal aimbot is on by default in RDR2, that's how little confidence they have in how well their own game plays.
>>713265403A game having shitty timings you need to learn doesn't make it good. Making something difficult is not difficult.
>>713277973YOOOOU LOOK LIKE THIS
>>713266605I can understand phoning something in because you can't be bothered to put any effort into it. I can't understand being so much of an ego driven retard that you are bragging about not doing the bare minimum in interviews.
>>713278441There are no timings you need to learn, you fucking moron. This isn't a parry based game like Sekiro.
>>713272163>noooooooo you can't disagree with the dorito popeYou braindead corpo dicksucking subhuman unthinking piece of retarded garbage.
>>713278216Again, if you can't objectively recognize Half-Life 1, Doom Eternal, and L4D2 with friends as some of the best experiences a person can get out of the gaming medium, I feel like you aren't qualified to discuss the subject to the extent you're trying to discuss it. Your taste in gaming is extremely limited and bland, which is fine, but don't act like you're some sort of connoisseur. That's like acting like you're a film critic who automatically looks down on the entire genre of crime dramas
>>713263541Most of these games are shit and the few good ones get knocked out in the first or second round
>>713263541>doom lost to witcher 3normalniggers genuinely amaze me
>>713264674>Nu gow best storyKek that was a good one
>>713278208All of these except the last one are objectively correct decisions.
>>713276023The gameplay feels really good. Probably the best I've ever played in its genre.
>>713270449>it's not that good but still better than the vast majority of some barely defined group of thingsI've spent my entire life hearing people defend trash with this sentence. I hope one day children will come up with a new cope.
>>713271125The game sucks, you think it's great because you are a normalfag who enjoyed the game because it gave you something to talk about with other normalfags. You don't have the soul required to judge things on their own merits, for you its about fitting in with your peer group.
>>713278424Nta but I would definitely be more inclined to play a new Rockstar game over whatever slop the gays and wokies at Santa Monica are making. The director is literally a fucking soi boy andn is all about faggot shit. Nobody at Rockstar goes on Twitter and says all the gay shit he does. Find it ironic you're talking about woke shit when Santa Monica is 10 times more woke and outspoken about their woke shit then Rockstar is.
>>713264967She should be 400 pounds bigger
>>713278918We're talking about the games, I don't give a shit what gets posted on an employees Twitter account, you faggot.
>>713272628It's a very polished AAA game with a very large budget, cinematic cut scenes all over the place, very safe third person action combat with some generic RPG mechanics on top.
If it's the first game you've ever played you'll probably be very impressed. Otherwise you'll be bored, because all of that stuff feels like you've already seen and played it many times before. It's not terrible, but very bland, which sometimes feels worse.
>>713279094You're the one vehemently defending a soi boys game
>>713263521NuZelda being there instead of OoT is some embarrassing recency bias from tendies that can't think back to more than 2 games ago. At least the 4 other games are actually massively influential, though I'd argue Doom is way more than Dark Souls. You could argue that OoT laid the groundwork for a game like Demon's Souls to even exist.
>>713279215And you're defending an incredibly woke cinematic slop "game", in the loosest definition of game I can possibly think of.
>Oh, you walked 2 inches outside of this predetermined path we decided for this mission.>Mission Failed. Try again.
What a fucking joke. Ocarina of Time and Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil 4 are all way better than that shit.
>>713279353NTA, I don't mean to butt into an argument or gang up on anyone, but I just need to make it very clear that nu-God of War and Sony are WAY more woke than Red Dead and Rockstar
>>713263541>No Nier>No Elden Ring
>>713279431wow i wonder what generation this poster grew up during
>>713276023>>713278820>over the shoulder TPS perspective for a melee based action game>every enemy is a bullet sponge but the combo system is barebones bordering on nonexistent so you spend the entire game spamming the same 5 moves with no visual feedbackit's shit. yes i played it all the way through because my sister was into the story but didnt wanna play it so i played it while she watched. it's the epitome of a horrible feeling modern action game, NOTHING about it is good and im convinced you are both paid shills.
>>713263184 (OP)>God of War crowned the best video game of all time>Presented by Hululol
>>713266605There is another where the showrunners of The Last of Us Season 2 removed "videogame references"
The iconic workbench where you upgrade weapons.
>>713279646>i played it all the way through because my sister was into the story but didnt wanna play it so i played it while she watchedAw, that's a wholesome dynamic. I wanna show off my epic gamer skills to a normie so they can enjoy a game's story :(
>>713279807I think it's for the best I never had a sister, because I would want to try and get her to fuck me all the time
Most people are mediocre, mediocre people like mediocre games their mediocre minds can understand in 2 minutes.
Unfortunately that's reality
>>713263521Half life is a better game than half life 2. I'm tired of normies overrating the shit out of half life 2 when it's objectively boring and filled with dumb AI.
>>713279520They wanted the "best game" not the "most 6/10 game"
>>713270449>man you guys have such a fucking hate boner for nu-GoW even though both are very fun and good action games.They are not gow games. It's only relevant because it has gow on the box and an absurd marketing campaign behind
>There's literally more action gameplay in nu-GoW than the vast majority of games you guys play.How is that an argument? There are better games too?
>Also, they're hard as fuck on give me god of war, the vast majority of you scrubs could never beat... If you measure quality with difficulty gow is on the easy side. Go play shmups
> you just hop on the bandwagon of circlejerk hate to fit in with all the other contrarian retards who saw...Or maybe people liked old gow and hate how mediocre it has become, specially when people that didn't like old gow or didn't even playe them treats the new gow as some kind of mature change. Even as a movie is mediocre at best. The fucking 1 take movie is the most retarded thing they could come up with
>>713263541>halo 3 didn't even make the list but halo 2 did>half-life 2 loses to rise of the tomb raider>apex legends beat super metroidI think people forgot that games are primarily an interactive medium and not a storytelling one
>>713263184 (OP)The fuck
>>713263412Yes I played and beated it, it's an OK game but GOAT? Fuck outta here
>>713263184 (OP)>IGN readersSo like...25 trannies and 3 leftoids voted for the most faggy game possible? Okay...the game is objectively shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SqRS2bi280&t
>>713280223>So like...25 trannies and 3 leftoids voted>>713263541
>>713280153Yeah, I can't believe Apex Legends beat Super Metroid, that game is 60% cutscenes. Gameplay > story.
>>713264803No, not in fucking god of war game where you should be able to knock and juggle that fodder to the sky.
>>713264967Kek, movie games
>>713280309So 25 trannies and 3 leftoids voted that many times? Subhumans have no life
>>713277346>apex over metroidwhat the absolute shit
>>713280326No. Apex legends beating super metroid is just dumb either way.
>>713277991I am not. The first impression the game leaves you with is that it's a hold-forward interactive cutscene.
>>713280421>where you should be able to knock and juggle that fodderYou can do this in nuGoW
>to the skyYou couldn't even do that in the old games. Never mind that juggling enemies wasn't a big focus of the combat in those games anyway.
>>713263541My fucking God what awful taste
Also who puts multiplayer only games on here?
>>713280223>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SqRS2bi280&t [Open]
>>713280153>>half-life 2 loses to rise of the tomb raiderGood. HL2 is movieshit.
>>713280657Why is /v/ so afraid of multiplayer games? Is it because you know you're a shitter and you'd get exposed the moment you played against other people.
>>713280792I'm not afraid but I think multiplayer only games have different standards than single player games
>>713278780At the very least there's no excuse for
>Chrono Trigger lost to Burnout 3: Takedownor
>Diablo 2 lost to Witcher 3Regardless of how you personally feel about Chrono Trigger or Diablo 2, whether you dislike them or think they're overrated or whatever, their influence on gaming culture has been undeniable. To this day, games are still copying features and mechanics from those two games whereas shit like Witcher 3 was completely forgettable slop, only discussed today so that people can criticize it or talk about which girl they want to fuck.
But that's why audience polls are always shit. They're not concerned with how innovative or influential a game was; they literally just think
>which racing game did I enjoy playing on my xbox when I was a kid?
>>713264803They didn't even bother to made an a stagger animation and ragdoll physics for that fodder. It should be staggered by kratos attack and its ragdoll should be flying backward for a couple feet instead of just playing a death animation.
>>713280223Yeah I liked that video
>>713266315Why does a Norse/Viking god have mannerisms of a Californian bug chaser club going fag?
>>713263184 (OP)Isnโt this just TLOU meets GoW? Why not nominate GOW 3 as one of the best games of all time
>>713263541Recency bias is one hell of a drug
>>713281270I have noticed that every piece of American media that released recently will have their characters act like a Californian millennial or zoomer no matter the setting or era.
>>713263541>SM outvoted by Apex Legends in round 1I'm not surprised and at this point not even really mad. Most of the people voting in that have probably never even played it at this point.
>>713263184 (OP)Gaming doesn't suck in general, it just sucks now. All new games will be slop from now on.
>>713263541Holy fuck this is so fucking brutal to read
>>713279580well 2 of those are from the ps1/n64 gen and 1 is from the ps2/gamecube gen so its not 1 generation.
>>713278341So beat it in the hardest difficulty, still waiting
>>713263184 (OP)>>713263184 (OP)>>713263184 (OP)>letting the plebian class have a say.Ah, the rabble has cast its clunky bronze ballots for God of War? How droll. Let the masses amuse themselves with digital thunder while we savor true high art. This post has been brought to you by the Guild of Millers. The Guild of Millers uses only the finest grain. True Roman bread, for true Romans.
>>713280792Someone who has trillions of hours in multiplayer FPS, Turn Based and RTS games, multiplayer is repetitive tryhard trash with extreme limitations in terms of game design.
>>713283783Jvpiter Optimvs Maximvs tier post.
>>713263184 (OP)The original 3 God of wars blow the newest 2 out of the water so fucking hard that it isn't even funny
>>713263541The funniest part is that there isn't ONE single good game in the entire list.
>>713284019And they are mediocre too, just not mediocrity laced with pretentious soi millennial cynicism.
It wanted to be edgy middling fun and that's what it is.
>>713279973and Doom is a better game than both of them
>>713272628it's a fine game, solid 8/10. Definitely not the best fucking game ever though
>>713285574Wrong its an outdated turd only liked by fake fans who played modded sourceports
>>713263184 (OP)that's too much even if it's coming from normie shitters and zoom zooms. how can you even be in this hobby seriously if you haven't played at least 100 games from the 80s and 90s and think almost anything after new vegas is worth a damn...
>>713271013>confronted with harsh truth>he rolls away from itkek
Everytiem I activate spartan rage in GoW Ragnarok I scream
GOOOOOOODS
MY WIFE SOOOOON
And I lost it.
It's the only way to have fun with the fucking Puzzles in this fucking game I hate these fucking puzzles so fucking much I hate them
Aaaaaaaah
>>713263541>GoW 90%, StarCraft 10%>Skyrim > OoTHoly shit taste.
>>713279327BotW was influential but that influence is that a shit ton of games now have gliders. It's essentially the parachute from Just Cause but BotW popularized it.
>>713272752>The combat was decent and weightyno it isn't, it's floaty and slow.
>>713277346I hate zoomers so much it's unreal, like real tangible hate not just haha internet meme hate.
>>713263184 (OP)that's because indians love playstation and they love garbage cinematic games like nu godofwar
>>713288747RTS are gay boomer
>>713263184 (OP)most popular game, sure, but best one? you can't get that by just voting
>>713280153Yeah? Halo 3 sucks.
>>713268104Guaranteed he hasnt but in fairness he is probably in highschool. Your ass is like 30 and you havent so much as hugged a girl in 10 years.
>>713263541I love seeing /v/ get BTFO. Nobody likes rollslop like Souls, and nobody like walking simulators like Half-Life 2.
>>713263184 (OP)>brought to you by basement cucks self inserting as nu-kratos while tyrone is upstairs doing their wife and wife's son is at school
>>713292378Said by 30 year old playing tranime games for tweens
>>713263184 (OP)You mean GTA V being in the top 2 right? No? PC cucks with their shit taste as usual.
>>713277346Half-Life 2 fell out of the top 100 in like 2011. Get real.
>>713263184 (OP)>presented by @hulu
>>713263541>BL2What the fuck?
>Pit OOT against SkyrimNo shit it failed.
>MGS3 loses to Last of Us>SM64 loses to Arkham City>HL2 loses to Rise of Tomb Raider>Super Metroid loses to Super MetroidI hate gamers.
>>713278208>>WoW lost to Call of Duty 4I hate MMOs so I don't mind, even if I think WoW is a better game.
>>713263412Yes, it was okay. Cool idea to make a sequel of different genre and tone like they did, but it should've been a million times better. My problem is that here really isn't focus on Kratos actually regretting his past, or a threat that he will go back to being a world-ending god-slayer like before. Those happen, sure, but it feels superficial compared to what it's actually happening. Most of it is walking, doing fuck-all, coming across puzzles only to be told the answer 0.3 seconds afterwards (they might not have been boring otherwise), a combat that is okayish, all while Atreus has daddy issues. The story is a bit boring and could really use more cutscenes over characters talking trivial shit while you walk, or you walking across a forced cutscene.
Whatever gripes I had though, the sequel was worse lmao.
>>713263521As much as I hate this, I could understand it if not for Doom. At least put Quake in there, I'm so fucking tired of people pretending Doom isn't mediocre, even compared to doom clones like Strife or Dark Forces.
>>713263184 (OP)GoW 2018 is really not a bad pick. It was fantastic. However this is a clear sign that millenial gamers have been phased out. We aren't the ones driving sales anymore, we aren't the ones beign marketed to either. With age I do notice a lot of the marketing tactics I got excited for as a kid. It's just another cycle, and we're no longer the favorite children.
>>713263541Why they make these into Brackets? Isn't that kinda retarded?
>>713263184 (OP)>a movie wins best video game evah!
>>713267035It is odd how so much of it feels like filler but you technically cannot take away any big story segment. I cannot imagine having the want to do the side quests
>>713263184 (OP)>>713263541Elimination tournaments with public voting will get you results that are popular and relatively uncontroversial, which is sometimes useful. But in general they won't get you the actual best of anything.
The actual best game of all time is probably one of the following:
Deus Ex
Counterfeit Monkey
The Last of Us: Part II
None of those are going to win any kind of public vote.
>>713263541>Chrono Trigger lost to Burnout 3Holy fucking shit. The mass casualization of gaming was a mistake.
>>713295198Burnout 3 was pretty fuggin good be honest. I can forgive the kids for that one
>>713263184 (OP)Why not just make a /v/ awards? That way you arent hindered by what normies vote
>>713263184 (OP)What does this thread have to do with E33?
>>713295198I get preferring Chrono Trigger over Burnout 3, but I sincerely hope this isn't a dig at Burnout 3. Burnout 3 is one of the greatest games of all time. A true classic and one of the few games I would give a 10/10.
>>713294990> The Last of Us: Part IIEww no.
>>713295198?
Anon I love CT but it's a pretty casual game. So casual that it is still relevant enough to make the list despite its age.
>>713295516exactly. The peak of the series. I still can't believe how good the car damage was on a ps2.
>>713294297Millenials are the ones playing this.
Zoomers watched millenials playing it on youtube and video essays about it.
>>713263184 (OP)This vote was done back in 2021, and if I remember right most of the votes came from Instagram. Which is why itโs such a retarded list with horrible recency bias. The same troglodytes who would have voted for GoW 2018 would be replacing it with Ragnarรถk now anyway.
>>713278208>Ocarina of Time lost to SkyrimThis is expected, Skyrim is way better.
God of War should NEVER have won over Skyrim, that's so fucking offensive.
>>713263541>Kotor loses to FalloutJesus christ...
It should not be allowed to vote unless you have actually played the games you're voting for or against.
>>713278739Doom is probably THE normalfag title of it's time.
And nu-Doom continues the trend, unsurprisingly.
>>713278739I had Doom on our SNES and never got into it.
>>713263541Where is Undertale? Didn't these cock suckers hype this game up for at least an entire year as being the greatest indie game ever made? You'd think it would at least be shown here in the brackets. Also Fable 2? Really? lol! I like the game but to put it anywhere near best of all time is laughable. You guys put too much care into retarded lists like this. Doom didn't even get past the second round so that should tell you guys all you need to know right there. These IGN normies have some utterly garbage taste holy shit.
>>713276023I don't use lock-on camera in souls games
>>713263541Did IGN compile the list? Of course a lot of the votes range from questionable to ridiculous, but the list of chosen games is also lacking
>>713263541This entire list offends me to be honest.
>Rise of the Tomb Raider is better than Half-Life 2Yeah sure.
>Titanfall 2 beats out Apex LegendsWtf?
>Baldurs Gate 2 not even on the listWhoever made this and voted for this needs to be launched off the planet.
>>713263618>>713264460I wouldn't mind so much if the story was actually interesting. There's so much nonsensical magic bullshit that makes it difficult to care what the fuck is going on.
>"Oh no... his soul cannot find peace, you have to get the horn of jrangakakar and take it took the throat of the goat mountain and place these 3 leaves there."And when it's not about that, it's Grey's Anatomy levels of soap opera drama done to death. And because all the cutscenes transition in and out gameplay means you can't ever skip this shit even on newgame+.
>>713296358>of it's time.and yet its level design would confuse and enrage the modern zoomer
>>713264460@ 1:05
"This is not a game this is cinema can't wait to get my hands on this game"
Mentally challenged
>>713296957That's not really the game's fault. And I don't see how that's relevant.
>"The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. (...) Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest (...) Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved."
>"The Beatles sold a lot of records not because they were the greatest musicians but simply because their music was easy to sell to the masses: it had no difficult content, it had no technical innovations, it had no creative depth. They wrote a bunch of catchy 3-minute ditties and they were photogenic."
Same thing applies to video games. It's not a serious art form.
/v/edditors are so fucking stupid it's hard for the to think this board isn't filled with jeets or mexicans. Who-the-fuck even cares about what IGN decides it's the best game ever. Who.
>>713297569Everything said here is completely retarded. The Beatles completely changed the complexion of popular music. All you have to do to see that is go watch one of those videos that shows you which songs were topping the charts in each year, and thereโs a massive shift after The Beatles. They were also very prolific in a short space of time and experimental with their sound, in ways that would become hugely influential.
>>713264967asia belle hot and unbothered
fuck you for making me look up tranny porn
>>713277772this is fucking epic
>>713274452Deus Ex should be on the list at least.
>>713292378they are the better men
>>713263184 (OP)>wanking circlejerk of corrupt cocksuckers makes up contest, voters and award to wank themselves and all the cronies in their cadre for publicity in front of retards>retards still surprised 11 years after gg by this blatant and shameless corruption and self-fellating
>>713263184 (OP)>voted by actual playerslol. You stupid? Shit's all rigged. IGN rig their own votes. This was proven from last year when they rigged everything against black myth wukong.
>>713301958kys conspiritard
>>713301958>IGN rig their own votes.apart from gow, which i had no idea was so fucking popular among normalniggers, the votes are about what i would expect
>>713302173just an aside, but y'all's obsession with the n-word fascinates me
>>713266605Why do they do this? You'd think this would be a fireable offense for these people.
>hey dude wanna direct and run this show/movie about [established IP]?>sure, but I'm not going to partake in said IP at all and I'm going to reimagine it to be whatever I want it to be and oh everyone's a minority nowI cannot imagine a situation where this would be okay yet it seems to be the norm now.
>>713303504honestly i prefer it over newfag, trannie, zoomer, boomer, millenial, reddit as a must-have word on the boards
>>713297569You have to have brain damage to think NU GOW is the vidygay equivalent of the beetles.
>>713263665Mr freeze new game plus boss fight is the best boss fight oat
>>713263412I have and Resident Evil 4 remake does a better job of achieving what Nu God of War is trying. Even the Order 1886 or whatever was better by virtue of the fact that it was shorter
>>713264173Some graphic less nothing but menus and numbers numbers numbers game too hard to play probably
>>713296120>neverwinter but badlol
>>713263184 (OP)>>713263541SHITTENDOXISTERTROONFAGGOTBROS........................................................
>>713263541why are boomers getting so upset over this? It's just a popularity contest, most of the people voting probably haven't even played a single game in the bracket, let alone both.
Although honestly I still never realized nu God of War was that popular. I found it to be extremey underwhelming, never understood the appeal at all
>>713263184 (OP)It's pretty good yea.
>>713263412I literally have a physical copy
it's the most boilerplate Sony exclusive template game ever, it's like they saw Uncharted and Last of Us and decided every game ever has to look like those to be taken seriously at the video game oscars
>>713265021I want to play as bad man because bad man actually has sex with women
>>713264020And about 200k bots.
>>713263184 (OP)If there's anything that screams mutt then this is it...
>>713263184 (OP)>voted by actual playersNo.
>>713263541I don't like nor respect IGN. The results of this poll disgust me, especially RE4 losing to BotW. I will never understand what people see in BotW.
>>713263184 (OP)>This was the moment I knew gaming as a whole fucking sucksThis moment right here? Not the other hundreds of times game journalists outed themselves as having absolute dogshit taste over the past two decades?
>>713263541i was prepared to disagree with the popular opinion a lot but this is truly obscene
>>713263184 (OP)>That shitty ass game was voted best game of all timeYeah.. I don't care anymore. It's just funny at this point. Carry on IGN
>>713295198>says talking about a literal moviegameImagine praising chrono trigger over burnout lmao I hope you get kicked in the balls jrpg tranny
literal subhuman
>noo my sub quality dbz movie game is better than a fast-paced arcade racer>gamers are casuals for choosing a game that actually requires more input than my spreadsheet movie NOOOO>but le music, le atmosphere>turn based gameplay is smart and high IQ!... only when it's 4 niggas in a row tho I can't handle actual tactics or strategic planning like in the icky total war games :(there you go >>>/tv/, >>>/a/
stay there or better yet, kill yourself you and your faggot dead genre
GOOOOOODSSSSS!!!...
No... I can't keep going on like this...
In this moment, I am euphoric...
>>713263412I did
it sucked and the kid was annoying as fuck
>>713263665if this was 10 years ago, it'd most likely win. but Elden Ring is the 'best' Dark Souls game now. Dark Souls itself is slow, clunky, and not action-y enough. there's a lot of videos nowadays about players going back to play it, and they aren't so polite about their feelings toward it.
>>713313087There is more to Dark Souls (1 specifically) than the combat. If you can't see that, you don't really understand what makes Dark Souls special. Dark Souls 1 is one of the greatest games of all time, that won't ever change.
>>713263184 (OP)You sat there and said nothing about The Last of Us II winning awards and this is where you drew the line?
Shut the fuck up faggot OP
Love how none of the fags in this thread are naming their choice for best game of all time to show off their amazing taste.
>>713263521notice how the same few games always keep astroturfed to infinity, not just these 5, but many more
It's the type of shit people find from google "TOP 10 VIDEO GAMES" and they pick the first few games to play and now they're seasoned "gamers", shit like GTA5, RDR2, Deus Ex etc.
Minecraft is a sandbox for autistically building things, as a game it's just shit. It serves better as a
Half-Life 2 was a cool physics engine tech demo, that's about it, after Ravenholm, it just loses all of its steam.
BotW is some of the most boring shit to ever grace the face of the earth, the padded empty world, pretentious score, garbage console user interface, physics gimmicks and arbitrary mechanics made to purely inconvenience the player solidified its place in my "never touching again" library of games. Its open-endedness is the only aspect worthy of applause, if they condensed the world to like 1/4th of its size, you'd have something resembling a proper game.
Doom is just a relic of its time. I don't deny its role in video game history and influence for FPS game after it, but it's just that, history. Nostalgia doesn't make the game any less boring after you run through hangar, vibing with the music and the demon sfx until the very next stages bring you back to reality of running around in mazes of repetitive maps with the same one dimensional enemies.
Dark Souls is a genuinely enjoyable experience at least for your first time ever without having burnt out on the whole concept of "souls likes". Simple yet satisfing combat, interesting, interconnected world, good enemy and boss variety, challenging, fun to explore. Few bad decisions like bed of chaos and ceaseless discharge, run backs to bosses, and a lot of vast empty areas where it feels like they either ran out of time and/or budget, or just didn't polish, like the yard and crystal caverns leading up to Seath, entirety of Anor Londo just being completely hollow, Lost Izalith and possibly forgetting some other place.
>>713265432I can't unsee that he's paddling just on the left...
sony wins again. /v/ wrong yet again. as usual. Yawn.
>>713269174people talk about new GOW all the time. you just have no friends.
>>713263184 (OP)>>713263541congratulations, the normgroid scumfucks who by majority had probably been calling gamers dorks/nerds/etc online and in public have decided generic cinematic slop to be the best game of all time.
i don't care. IGN holds absolutely no status in 2025. if anything, this is a dying cry for engagement.
>>713278208wait, you think somehow that old lego looking game was better than skyrim? lmfao
>>713277346WHAT THE FUCK
now im pissed. fucking apex slop ass shit that killed titanfall was voted ahead of what used to be considered the best, if not top 3, best games ever? fuck off. fucking IGN is a waste of bandwidth and space, so are those using it
>>713270449The old GoW is literally western made DMC nu-GoW is literally steaming stinky pile of dogshit cater to dumbasses, no wonder they think playing elden ring is hard when they play dogshit like nu-GoW
>>713263412>How do you know diarrhea isn't delicious if you've never tasted it?These companies have been following the same cookie cutter formula for the past decade. Boring, sanitised interactive movies. No innovation, no challenge, no fun. Just boring stories and muh grafficks. It's the definition of mediocrity, so normies naturally flock to it like flies to a rotting corpse.
>>713263184 (OP)I thought it was ok, but it was definitely not best game of all time. Fucking Reddit.
>>713263521>the sequel to the offline game included with your copy of counter-strike
>>713314578The worst thing is that retarded IGN video game "journalists" probably would've come up with something better than whatever the fuck this is
>>713263541. As dogshit as video game "journalists" are, no way they would've picked fucking GOW as the greatest game of all time. They would've picked something like Half Life, Super Mario Galaxy, Chrono Trigger, Zelda OOT, Halo CE etc.
>>713263184 (OP)People who have motherless behavior hate this game.
>>713315929Don't make me dislike you, babe
>>713316015I don't have friends!
You can't do anything to me!
>>713277346idk why you guys are surprised about all this. This is a normie contest. Do you think any normie ever played metroid or dark souls? I would be surprised if super metroid won or half life 2. I bet not even half of any of you played these 2 games
>>713269174The gameplay of Rockstar games is awful, even Nu-GoW has much better gameplay
>>713263184 (OP)Remember back when /v/ kept shilling overrated pozzed dogshit like rdr2 vii redditbirth ffxv xvi god of ,onions, horizon zero dawn and starfield?
I member
>>713316081I like your posts and I don't ever harass you, but I might start doing that if you don't start hating on GODOFSOY
>>713278424>rdr2 is woke so that means soi of war isn't wokeholy cope
>>713316756>its woke because uhhh it just is ok!?!??! No i haven't played it!?!?
>greatest game of all time is either GTA V or a movie
Who the fuck uses IGN anymore? I would've assumed people my age or older (40s), but that reads like Gen Alpha babies or turbo zoomers. Embarrassing.
>>713316748That's probably nice, but no one ever cared about my opinion before.
>>713263541That's a lot of fucking effort for the most transparent bait I've ever seen. Imagine getting a sponsor for a joke poll.
>>713316920i bet you have a cute ass
>>713295198Yeah, Burnout 3 is def better than a brain dead game like Chrono Trigger.
>>713317024Is this an ass?
>>713312436Did you have to go so hard on him?
>never brought the PS4/5 God of Snoy
>never played the original trilogy so I do that
>finishes it, complete masterpiece of a series
>decide to try watching gameplay of the new GOS games on YT
>its just talking and waking, occasionally Kratos fights some guys then more waking and talking and climbing and boat riding and
>clicks off
the gods of olympus have abandoned me
>>713317694>YTAverage contrarian opinion
>>713318058So where else am I supposed to watch it for free? Pornhub?
>>713275718This poll happened four years ago, the rage surrounding it is long past and limited to whenever it gets reposted
>>713318123Play it contrarian
>>713263184 (OP)The Last of Us was a huge game. The modern audience loved it, and so the Walking sim of war was inevitable.
>>713317694>>713318123Don't listen to him,
>>713318058,
>>713318182. The game is fucking ass. If you can get it for free somewhere sure but even spending 2 bucks on this is a waste of money. Save that 2 bucks to spend on some french fries with your burger.
>>713263412I beat it and did a lot of the side content.
You know when people say "It gets good x number of hours in"?
I was waiting for that moment like my entire playthrough.
I got to the final valkyrie boss after forcing myself to beat the rest of them, and that fight was when I realized that this game's combat is bad. Straight up bad.
It's a disgusting mashup between bamham and souls combat systems. Completely and utterly regressive compared to series like devil may cry, which the original ps2-3 GoWs combat systems were based on.
You lose so much combat complexity and intensity for the sake of cinematic movie bullshit, which they're obviously more concerned about than making good combat. Developers like that have simply lost their way, and their games aren't worth playing after that point. Cause they're objectively making piss poor games at that point. You're literally paying for bad games at that point. All the shit that they're min maxing on during development can all be experienced on youtube. And it'll be a better format for it, because it'll skip the chore-esque gameplay that the developers begrudgingly shit all over their glorified B movie with to justify them labeling it as a "game".
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>>713303504how about retard
>>713267751https://youtu.be/Ep1MK_7ur1g?si=suSbhb4D3d3fcNcy&t=21
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>>713263412I actually played it recently out of curiosity after years hearing about it being either the best or worst thing ever. The game itself is alright as long as you don't focus on the combat; amazing visuals and I found the level design to be mostly good. The combat, however, is terrible and the thing that pisses me off the most is that you can kind of tell there was somewhat of a decent foundation at first, but it was completely evaporated with some of the most dumbfounded choices I've ever seen in an "action" game: terrible lock-on, cooldowns, levels and gear like it's a fucking RPG. Also, some enemies are abysmal like those witches that teleport all the time and have awful hitboxes. The only fights I would say were mostly good without a lot of "buts" attached are the Valkyries, and you had to go completely out of your way for them. Still, fighting some of those you realize how bad the combat is because that's the only time the game more or less seems to want you to take it "seriously" as an action game, but the garbage system won't allow it because everything on it kneels to moronic RPG mechanics.
I'm not even a big GoW fan and when I think about 2018 in the context of action games it makes me mad. Sony Santa Monica should have caught more shit for selling out like that, but everyone praised it like they reinvented the wheel instead of taking away mechanics from whatever was popular at the time and slapping them together in a known brand.
>>713263184 (OP)Is this the Better Men thread?
>>713263184 (OP)>Goy of War 2018>Gtav>Best games of all timeFuck it. Gamers dont deserve sovl. Get me off this fucking gay earth
>>713263541How did skyrim lose to GOW
>>713263184 (OP)God fucking damnit, I cannot take that image of Kratos doing that onions rage scream seriously.
>>713263541Holy shit this is so fucking bad. If you wonder why games are shit nowadays you don't have to look any further than this.
>>713320374Only if you have a BBC and you want to fuck my wife
>>713265021Le heckin based and wholesome
>>713265021This.
I got mad at my wife for fucking other dudes, but I decided to ditch my toxic ways and now I let her see other guys.
We. Must. Be. Better. Men.
>>713318348>>713320226After 2 playthroughs on GMGOW I agreed with these takes. But not anymore, after 30 or so playthroughs and Level 1 runs. It IS good if you can be bothered to fully learn it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD_Lyk8yoSs
>>713263412i watched the cutscenes on youtube
fun fact: nu god of war has about 5 times less cutscenes than xenoblade, a game which is highly revered in /v/
>>713321761Are you only counting cutscenes that strip player control or also counting the 20 minute "gameplay" sections of walking in a straight fucking line?
>>713322046if i count everything you have said in nu gow it'd have about 5 times less cutscenes than xenoblade
>>713321761>>713322440I haven't played Xenoblade, but I'm going to assume it actually has a worthwhile story to tell with actual characters that are worth giving a damn about unlike nu GOW, but like I said, I never played Xenoblade. I did hear that Xenogears did exactly what I just said, that's why I assume Xenoblade does that well as well
>>713263541Metal Slug 3 is better than 90% of these entries.
>pokemon yellow beating SFIIfucking lmao
>>713264003Conan is pure kino. Unfiltered piss takes on peoples' favorite products, and getting paid for it.
>>713266315>white text on white backgroundcan you guys actually read this?!
>>713279646Is your sister attractive? Does she walk around in pantsu? This is important for videogames anon...
>>713263184 (OP)Dark Souls and GTA San Andreas share the number 1 spot, objectively.
I will not elaborate, just be aware they're the only 9.9/10 games that exist.
>>713263521totk is better than botw
>>713263184 (OP)Notice how it says "IGN readers", not "gamers". Two totally different things.
>>713263541Not from a Jediโฆ
>>713268146>1987>Not Mike Tyson's Punchoutfuck your list
>>713263521based and correct
>>713263541powercringe, about what I expect of anyone still paying attention to IGN
>>713263184 (OP)IGN fan base is maximum level retard
>>713263412for 15 minutes, walking around was tedious, kratos controls with finesse of elephant and setting camera so close behind one shoulder in action combat game where enemies can get behind you is retarded
>>713263541I've only played 12 of those.
>>713278567You are vastly underestimating just how much the pseudo-intellectuals behind these projects hate that they need to save on advertising by using existing IP they see as immature and unprogressive.
>>713263618You're carrying that boar to feed your family, right?
>>713297569If being serious art is indistinguishable from being difficult to comprehend, then art is made worse as a means of communication by being serious.
>>713267970>both sides are wrongNo
>>713263541bracket system is retarded, in this specific case
We already figured this out years ago.
>>713263412I played it and it fucking sucked. OP is right about everything he said.
>completely useless, put-of-place, rpg elements>move-assist on your attacks >horrible camera for an "action game">7 repeated troll boss fights>only 2 real boss fights both of which have fucking checkpoints mid-fight so you can't even learn the phases or have fun with them>empty world>boring characters>neutered Kratos>complete TLoU ripoffThe fact that "gamers" voted this garbage the best videogame of all time is proof that gaming is dead, it's over, games aren't made by or for real gamers anymore.
>>713323109I loved his review of Final Fantasy XV; he and Elijah just sank further and further into absurdity, eventually shitting on the game so much, and then finding out the dev team was watching them the whole time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXJFbsQBvLw
>>713263541At a minimum, 31 of these titles don't have a place in the top 100, and several of those wouldn't make top 500.
>>713266515It's crazy how far videogames have fallen.
I didn't even like the original GoW games (They're just American-ized DMC, and no where near as good.) but holy fuck, at least they were fucking videogames.
>>713263412Yes and it was one of these video game experience I want to forget. Everything in the graphics but the gameplay suck, story suck, the little faggot suck, 3 types of enemies suck, boring semi open world zone sucks everythings sucks in that game. Deal with it snoy fag
>>713263184 (OP)>fallout trans vegaslmao
>>713263184 (OP)>muh game awardsGrow up
>>713263412Yeah it was alright, and the (you)'s you got proof that fags on here dont play video games, they just hate them for reasons other people who also didnt play them hate it.
It was a pretty good game with a really fun combat system, tho I liked the axe a ton more then the chains. My only big problem was that the game peaked in the intro, nothing gets close to the intro boss fight. Also the ghost pirate ship part was the most shit encounter ever put into a game. Mashing Y for 5 minutes got the job done.
But GOAT? No. Its fun, but its just too much like other Sony first party games. Its not special enough to hold that title.
But again, I cant stress enough how sheep like the /v/ user base is. They dont play shit just assume everything is trash and listen to people that think the same so their world view of everything is shit gets confirmed. They are just as much sheep as the people they critique. Only this herd of sheep are retarded and drown in a lake thinking they are better because they dont let a dog tell them what to do
>>713263541>no Elden Ringthis is looks like a contest from 2019 where people voted for last years GOTY as declared by the dorito pope
>>713278567>I can understand phoning something in because you can't be bothered to put any effort into it. I can't understand being so much of an ego driven retard that you are bragging about not doing the bare minimum in interviews.Because it doesn't matter to them. It's pretty clear most creative mediums have been usurped by rich connected socialites who focus on vanity projects.
Why should they have read all the Harry Potter books if they were going to get the project regardless?
>>713263412Yeah, it was okay but best game ever? Not even fucking close, even in a mainstream context
>>713271125>But god forbid a game have some walking segments where the characters talk and the story is developed, god fucking forbid the entire game isn't a non-stop action sequence.Wait I thought we were talking about God of War
>>713298314>The Beatles completely changed the complexion of popular musicYeah and he said nothing else.
You can (and should) appreciate the influence the Beatles had on pop music.
But that was not by virtue of their musical quality, but because of everything around.
And boomer still praise them because it was their time and nostalgia is one hell of a drug.
A good vidya analogy would be RE4 - RE4babbies played it and have been treating it as the second coming of Christ ever since. And while RE4 is not a *bad* game and one can appreciate the influence it had on the industry, it's certainly not the GOTYAY they make it out to be.
>>713263184 (OP)This guy actually looks like a homosexual.
>>713263412It was fine and I enjoyed it enough to not regret playing it, but I wouldn't really give it a second playthrough.
The combat doesn't grip me as much as it's sucked off to be, I'd rather play PS4 Spiderman (keeping in line with a modern example) for an action game, even if that game is all spectacle but no substance it's fun enough to justify sinking a couple hours a week.
DadGoW isn't like that. It's slow and expects you to care for its story. It was okay at first, but it's a slog the second time around.
>>713263618I can't wait for this trend to die forever. For the love of God just make it a cutscene.
>>713263184 (OP)ign is filled with basedfaggots
>>713263412It's a movie, he can watch it on youtube for free
>>713332124>he thinks it's a trend"interactive" cutscenes are here to stay.
Even Stellar Blade does it.
>>713280792There's a handful of giga autists here that literally can't play multiplayer games either because they're too shit or autistic to
>>713264967I want to marry this chick.
>>713270449I thought it was an okay 3D Zelda clone. Played on Give me a Challenge and the only challenge I got were valkyries (and they were probably the best part of the overall experience). Hated brain-dead puzzles, the diablo-esque loot system and how boring combat with regular enemies get, as well as higher difficulties just slapping higher enemies and lowering Kratos' damage output. But it was an-okay game for one run through. I don't think somethink like that should have such a big budget and production values but who am I to suggest things to serious big corporate businessmen?
>>713275890Original god of war was basically a casualize and streamlined action game compared to DMC and Ninja gaiden back then. They relied more on cinematic and set pieces. They were still good games, just not on DM /Ninja gaiden level.
New god of war dumbs down the game even more and just offer even more forced cutscenes (can't skip because you have to walk through it), and elanorate melodramatic story
>>713332302Do you mean the QTEs (which while annoying, only last for a handful of seconds, have existed since the 5th gen and can be turned off) or being able to move the camera around while in conversation? Because that's different than 15 minutes minimum doing nothing but walking and talking
>>713263184 (OP)Boy.... Respect women
>>713334023>Do you mean the QTEsYes
>only last for a handful of secondsSeconds that simulate "gameplay" within a cutscene
>have existed since [...]Irrelevant, QTEs have always been ass, and bad practices and shitty mechanics existing for $TIME doesn't make them any less shitty, see also: achievements.
Though I did really appreciate that you can turn them off. Which, however, only does emphasize just how utterly superfluous and unncessary they are. I'll have my cutscenes be actual cutscenes, thank you.
>>713265021can't believe people falling for such obvious bait
have another (you)
>>713334257That's a reasonable opinion.
>>713274016B is pushing it. It's a high D at best: nothing gamebreaking or broken about the game, but the gameplay is so anemic, the only thing less gamelike would be VNs or those full-motion videos that were marketed as games in the 90s. Also the story sucks so it didn't even take advantage of that aspect of the game.
>>713330768elden ring is hot garbage that's why
We must be better consOOmers.
>>7132681462011 went to skyrim, soultranny