Next XBOX and PS6 is only 20% faster than the PS5

Graphicwhores lost

if it ain't running bloodborne at 120fps, i'm not interested

>2x in RT/AI
that's what they are pushing because raw power is hitting diminishing returns

ps5 is like what, 4x more powerful than ps4 by rough numbers
people unironically expected nothing more than 1440p@60/1080p@120 depending on the genre
4k faggots need to die
now they will add in ai slop smearing up the image even more
nuke india and kill incompetent pajeets in the tech/vidya industry holy fuck

>>713264405 (OP)
20% gain over rdna 4, ps5 and series x use rdna 2

>>713264405 (OP)
>PS6 is only 20% faster than the PS5
Isn't that the ps5 pro already? Or do they mean 20% faster than that.

>>713264405 (OP)
It's 20% faster than RDNA4, the PS5 doesn't use RDNA4 for its GPU. It's like RDNA 1.5.

diminishing returns

>>713264824
>>713264998
So 30% faster than PS5.

>Xbox releasing first
Do they really think this will work?

>>713264405 (OP)
PS3
>power of the cell
PS4
>VR meme
PS5
>invented the SSD
What Kool-Aid are console cucks going to drink next?

>>713264405 (OP)
Its almost like games are getting more bloated and less optimized faster than the tech for processing is advancing

>>713265178
AIslop

>>713265276
Probably this

>>713265073
If it's open and I can play Playstation pc games on it, maybe

>>713265060
>>713264824
>>713264998
RDNA 3 20% faster than RDNA 2
RDNA 4 40% faster than RDNA 3
UDNA 20% faster than RDNA 4

RDNA 2 = 10 (PS5)
RDNA 3 = 12
RDNA 4 = 16.8
UDNA = 20.16 (PS6)

GPU 116% faster theoretically

>>713264405 (OP)
is the Next XBOX and PS6 is only 20% faster than the PS5?

>>713265178
SSDs have been around since the 1980s dip shit

>need to keep the cost of the console under $600
>WHY DOESNT IT HAVE A RTX 5090 INSIDE?!?!?

consoletards in a nutshell

>UDNA +20% raster + 200% RT over RDNA4
wtf that's huge we are eating good pc bros

>>713264405 (OP)
it doesnt matter that wont be the focus. fake frames and fake resolution will be.

>>713264405 (OP)
That makes literally no sense whatsoever. The PS5 came out when the RTX 3060 was released, now we have the 5060. That's around 40% increase in raw compute. In 2 years the ps6 will release. How the FUCK is it only 20% faster. Especially the Xbox will use AMD 3xd cache. This is bullshit, I don't believe that leak

>>713265668
RDNA4 was always a stopgap, AMD's going all in on UDNA to get back market share.

the better question is, will they have games to play?

>>713265485
It's 20% faster than RDNA4
PS5 is on RDNA2
UDNA should in theory be at least twice as powerful as RDNA2

>>713265789
they still need it to be cheap. the value will be in AI bullshit. 4x the frames marketing labels rather than MUH TERAFLOPS.

>>713264405 (OP)
>20% perf gain over RDNA4
>Next XBOX and PS6 is only 20% faster than the PS5
The PS5 and Series X both use the RDNA2 GPU architecture, you dumb ass.

RDNA4 is AMD's current GPU architecture (Radeon RX 9000 series).

>>713265789
Moore's law is dead and they probably figured stuffing an RTX 5070 in a 200W console wouldn't be worth the effort
Fake frames + AI is more efficient than raw compute, it seems

>>713264405 (OP)
But where are the games?

>>713266436
In theory Microsoft wants to abandon the exclusivity approach entirely and make it into more of a PC box, it should run all Pc games

Can't wait to play TLOU and Horizon again

>>713264405 (OP)
Graphics finally stagnated

>>713264405 (OP)
Smartest tendie.

>>713266024
>>713266137
Yeah, I mean if they have dlss 4 or something equivalent then that's not all that bad if upscaling happens from 1080p. I tried stellar blade on my multimedia pc with the 5060, on dlss performance it looks like native and runs consistently above 60 fps. Kinda wondering how though, it tells me I need 12 GB vram, and I only have 8.
Then I tried framegen, and with only 2x I get consistently over 100 fps. If the consoles have enough vram it can work, BUT the game needs to be optimized as fuck. This only works on stellar blade. Fucking clair Obscur expedition 33 barely gets 60 fps on 1440 on a 5060 ti 16gb. With dlss 4 upscaling from full HD to 4k it gets sub 60 fps on high. Absolutely insanity. On a 4080 you need dlss quality to get more than 60 fps. Native 4k is sub 60 fps lmao. That game is unoptimized as shit.

>>713265550
Nothing gets by you.

>ninpedo deleted his post
Yamauchi is laughing at how stupid and gay your pedo cult is KEK.

>>713264405 (OP)
>Next Gen Xbox releases in 2026 to try and redo the Xbox 360 generation again
based

>>713264405 (OP)
yeah we've already entered fake frames era

>>713266723
You'll just get more particle vomit with smeary 8k textures running at stellar 20fps.

fyi the more horsepower would just be used for 'marginally better lighting'

>>713265789
mooreslawisdead

>>713267317
>will launch with xbox and 360 "classics"

25th anniversary bros. Its microsoft's year (to fail again)

game will look the same you just get 20% more meme tech that makes it run worse

>>713267695
apologize, the meme tech would mean they eventually can give you worse hardware at higher cost

>>713265789
>How the FUCK is it only 20% faster
Because they need to sacrifice a quarter of their resources on UX niggershit that's constantly running in the background and can overlay on top of the game you're playing. Still better than the Shitch 2's boring interface, amirite?

hopefully they'll start making actual video games since they don't have to keep worrying about upgrading their tech

>>713264405 (OP)
That tracks with how terrible the GPU generational leaps have been, watch multiframe gen be the main feature of both of them so normalfags will get to play at 120fps(with 3x fake frames) and act like it's the greatest thing ever

>>713264405 (OP)
ps5 is rdna1 tho
rdna4 is the 9070xt

>>713264405 (OP)
I wonder what kind of retarded name the next Xbox will have. Microsoft are very good at shitty marketing.

>>713265789
You're getting confused because OP is a retard. UDNA is 20% faster than RDNA4, and PS5/XSX is RDNA 1.5/2. Also apparently from the same guy, the consoles won't have the 3D stacking cache. Also also, the guy in the OP (Kepler) is an unironic snoy and AMD gigashill. He's right about a lot of the leaks but he's been wrong about them before (PS5 Pro was not 128 ROPs it's 64). Alsox3, PS5 Pro is RDNA 3.5/4 so expect the PS6 to be slightly better in raw performance (and higher price lmao) while upscaling like PSSR/FSR do all the heavy lifting.

>Second comment he replied to:

>Also, the home console SoC setup is gonna have 3D cache right?

>His reply:

>No.

Actually insane that 3D cache isn't being used. A PS5 Pro has the equivalent of a Ryzen 3600 and even a 5700X3D shows about 50% better performance in most tests.

>>713268523
Part of the issue is Nvidia moving to AI since that's where all the real money is, and AMD is content with staying slightly behind because their CEO is the Nvidia CEO's cousin and proud Chinese citizens first and foremost. The other issue has to do with developers being too shitty to even use the hardware effectively. Look at Capcom's recent releases, Dragon's Dogma 2 and Monster Hunter Wilds don't look -that- much better than their other games, yet you need a beefy computer AND have frame-gen activated to get them to run at an acceptable 1080p60. Hell even Sony's games run like ass on the PS5, and those games are supposed to be made for that console. Better hardware won't fix anything in the long term if these companies can't get their devs to do a better job.

The next Xbox just a prebuilt Windows PC

>>713264519
Graphics whore here, I am enjoy my 120FPS, thank you very much

>>713270167
Slut

>>713268523
that is what ps5pro laid the groundwork for

>>713268689
Nintendo have better approach, instead of chasing grafix they did more stuff to improve image quality on switch 2 well as giving proper support to high framerates with nvidia fuckery.

Of course, it's up to devs actually use those features, but at least they are there.

>>713269479
That would be funny if you could dual boot Steam OS and turn it into a Steam Machine

>>713269479
It's been like that since the 360

>>713264405 (OP)
Once we hit the end of Moore's law there's going to be a lot of software "engineers" that are going to be losing their job because it's going to become immediately apparent who's shit at coding.

>>713264405 (OP)
The jump from PS4 to PS5 was already miniscule apart from CPU and storage speeds.
This one will be even smaller. Diminishing returns and all.
Last substantial jump was from PS3 to PS4. Last jump that I personally cared about, that I felt was transformative, was from PS2 to PS3.

Can't wait to play all 0 games 20% faster!

SOURCE: Reddit

Okay champ

I’m gonna source an article from a reliable location like my toilet before them though

>>713270409
>IF

Unless they did some fuckery with bios, having dual boot with linux is easiest thing ever.

Might as well end consoles at this point. Just make everything for PC with a Sony & xbox brand subscription model on top of that. Would be less of a hassle.

>>713264405 (OP)
Makes sense. GPUs haven't progressed that much and they'll probably skimp out on the CPU as usual

>>713270761
Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft HATE giving freedom to their users because that means the end users can less jewed by them.

>>713270652
the correct joke is that 20% more games than 0 is still 0

>>713270367
Hard to say. A lot of developers are increasingly incompetent and super retarded + they're also limited by very tight schedules thanks to public companies and shareholder wank. Bruteforcing it with higher specs might actually be the play. The new Digimon looks like a fucking base PS4 game but it's locked to 30fps on current-gen consoles. That's one of the levels of sheer incompetence we can expect with games nowadays, and it's going to get worse.

>>713265450
>>713265450
>RDNA 3 20% faster than RDNA 2
>RDNA 4 40% faster than RDNA 3
>UDNA 20% faster than RDNA 4
No. The 9060XT has the same hardware configuration as the 6600XT, but it's frequency is a little faster. They're basically directly comparable. It's around 55% faster than the 6600XT. That's with 8GB of VRAM more too. The PS6 GPU would be around 85% faster.

>>713264724
The base PS5 is powerful enough to run most PS4 games at 4K 60fps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq5LpZIYMS4
4K itself is not the issue, modern engines, lack of optimization and artistic direction are. Devs just want to use the standards settings in UE5 to get "muh next gen look" and call it a day, even if it runs at 860p at a silky smooth 24fps. Meanwhile, devs were using far cheaper techniques 10 years ago and getting superior results, both in performance and visually.

>>713271032

>>713271143
>they're also limited by very tight schedules thanks to public companies and shareholder wank
No they don't. Modern games have the longest development periods in the industry's history while also having the most efficient tools and highest budgets with access to the most manpower in game industry history. The problem isn't the suits, it's the fact that "creatives" (retards) are bad at making decisions and cause churn. They constantly make arbitrary changes based on just their opinions and it results in the same work being redone again and again.

>>713264405 (OP)
What’s the point then?

Just improve optimization.

>he hasn't been playing games at 1080p 60hz for decades so when finally he upgrades it actually looks better
ngmi

>>713271143
>A lot of developers are increasingly incompetent and super retarded
Thankfully unreal engine is getting more retard proof and it's gaining more adoption. As people get more experience with it, games will get better. Standardization is a boon. Some of the worst optimized titles as of late used in-house engines, like Monster Hunter Wilds, which looks like a ps3 game but runs like dogshit. At least you can say Stalker 2 has raytracing and is pushing a lot of geometry detail, Wilds doesn't even have an excuse for why a 4090 dips below 30 FPS sometimes.

>>713265821
Lol
Lmao

>>713264724
>4K faggots need to die
4K is standard for TVs, retard

>>713270652
We won't be buying the Scamtendo 2.

>consoles are held back by weak cpu power
>so instead of going full 3d cache, they double down on memetracing
why are they so fucking retarded?

>>713264405 (OP)
It's only 20% faster than the RDNA 4, it's way faster than the Xbox Series and PS5. Who cares though, the PS6 will be $900 or more, the PS handheld will be $700 or more, the next Xbox is literally an Xbox console-on-a-chip. All Xbox devices using this custom APU won't be made by Microsoft and there will be two of them, a low-end and a high-end that has BC and access to third party stores so expect this to be $900-$1000+. Valve is using the low-end Xbox custom AMD APU for the Steam Deck 2, so that confirms its releasing in 2027 and will cost the least either $500 or $550. The Steam Deck 2 will have the Xbox BC disabled and will, of course, be modified and optimized by Valve for the SteamOS. The PS6 which includes the handheld, next Xbox, and the Steam Deck 2 will all use the same GPU APU, UDNA, but it's believe that only the PS6 and handheld will use Zen 6, this means the next Xbox APU/SD2 APU will use Zen 5 CPU. Next Xbox may release next year to beat Sony's 2027 release.

>>713264405 (OP)
>UDNA confirmed late 2026/early 2027
SteamDeck2bros I'm getting excited already

>>713270409
you can it's just a windows handheld in no way it's an xbox it doesn't even play xbox only games

>>713270761
subsidized pc model will always sell more

>>713272838
When you actually try framegen instead of watching deliberately-sabotaged recordings made by midwits or third-party hacks you'll understand why it's a better solution for CPU performance than magically making CPUs 4x faster in a single generation somehow or adding expensive vcache to get a whopping 25% boost instead of ticking a box and getting a >100% boost with no additional power consumption.

The overton window has moved far enough the retards and impoverished brown thirdies can't deny DLSS is insanely good anymore, in another couple years the influencers you get your opinions from will admit the same for framegen.

>>713271505
we have to have dynamic rtx lighting and realtime weather changes though it adds to our indoor fps

>>713271032

>>713271884
hardware optimization (brute force [ai])

>>713272838
>cpu
1 open world slop every 8 years makes no sense to optimize for

>>713270756
>Unless they did some fuckery with bios
You know they will. They spent the past 10 years modifying UEFI and Secure Boot to try to block Linux users. Every time I install Linux on a new machine with a new motherboard, there's always one more hindrance in the UEFI settings that prevents it from booting. I will bet money they will add some shit like only accepting keys signed by Microsoft.

2027? I just bought a PS5 Pro. Thanks for scamming me Rockstar.

>>713275772
>doesn't think they're already working on a ps6 hd port