I really liked Secret of the Mimic. Felt like a huge return to form

Same I enjoyed it but then I've liked most of the FNAF games

SotM > Sister Location > Help Wanted > 1 > 3 > 4 > Help Wanted 2 > Ruin > 2 > 6 > Security Breach

return to what form

>MFs really pay $40+ for some jumpscare mp4s stuck to bad fanfic

>>713267981
zoomer ranking

>>713268124
If you combine all scott games I'd rank them as better than any Steel Wool game on average, but Secret really is just very good, and 2 and 6 really are just very bad

>>713268115
>Fanfic
>He doesn't know

Scott controls the story of all the steel wool games now. Only ones he didn't have control of was Help Wanted and Security Breach from what I understand

>>713268485
i was mocking its quality of writing you dumb mother fucker

>>713268546
Well you're bad at it

>>713268686
>am i bad at it
>or is the retard who thinks some faggots shitty THE ROBOTS ARE PEEEYPOOOOOL
>THEEEEEYS PEEEYPOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL
>writing is on the same level of the illiad wrong
hmmmm
hmmmmmmmmm
HHHMMMMMMMMMM
>also is probably american and thus 70% illiterate anyway

>>713267097 (OP)
Is there any good fapbait in it though? Security Breach may have been awful but it had so much great fapbait like Roxy and Vanessa and Vanny and Chica and Gregory

>>713268831
>Iliad*
IlIlllIIIlIlIlI
fucking letters

>>713268115
>some jumpscare mp4s stuck to bad fanfic
The game actually really reminds me of Alien Isolation in terms of gameplay

>>713268965
Alright ill be honest
i havent seen gameplay of this shit since the like third one
i just assume theyre still the same fucking click garbage or get yelled at
have they actually evolved

Soooo what's the Secret™?

>>713269060
Yeah they are 3d explorable environments now

>>713268406
honestly as a person that has been there from the very beginning I think none of them are particulary "good" games but they are cool.

4>1>SL>2>6>3>Sotm>HW>HW2>SB

>>713269080
Hard to say since the mimick has like, 9 secrets

>the clown was a giant bait and switch
>Literally in the game for maybe 15 minutes

Huge respect for that. Made everything after her segment very exciting and mysterious

>>713267097 (OP)
definitely better than security breach but it felt like a high budget poppy's playtime or something. Just that genre of "get cinematically chased along this hallway with loud music and then do a puzzle"
Think if they went for more of a classic RE route and focused on level design/vistas even if the enemies were simple it would have been nicer

>>713268885
Mrs. Helpful gets me HOT AND BOTHERED!

>>713268115
every """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""horror"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" game is just a walking sim with jump scare mp4's embedded in them tbqhwy famalam

Tickets please

>>713270345
That is a MARRIED WOMAN you degenerate

>>713267097 (OP)
>Felt like a huge return to form
so, you'd say HER NAME IS JACKIE, AND SHE'S FUCKING BACKIE, YUH?

I watched a playthrough and it looked pretty shit
>No interesting mechanic, you just carry stuff, pull levers and push buttons
>The Mimic is dumb as fuck and basically just act the same way the entire playthrough regardless of who it possesses, patrolling whatever area you're in and if you're in a locker or in a spring suit it just leaves you alone, feel like a poor man's poor man's Alien Isolation.
>Grating voice acting, the Mimic has like what, half a dozen lines that blare at full volume by default for the entire playthrough
>Mimic by itself is a dumb concept desu, feel like we somehow regressed from FNAF 1 when it comes to horror. The game has nothing to offer beside "don't get caught or a jumpscare will play", but part of what made jumpscares effective in the original game was that the game forced you to pay attention to what was happening at all time. If it's just a game of cat-and-mouse you just tune out whenever the "You're spotted" sound plays
>Big philosophical question of the game is...can robot have souls (from a franchise with about ten other games featuring robots with souls)

>>713271002
>>Mimic by itself is a dumb concept desu
I think the Mimic is a cool concept. It's a singular threat, but you still have lots of variety because it's in a different form every time. It's like a psycho with split personality disorder. Reminds me of Dennis from Outlast

>the highly advanced endoskeleton that can basically posses any suit is... just a single enemy per section that plays no differently than any Poppy Playtime game
Riveting.

Objectively real FNAF ranking
>FNAF 1
OG
>FNAF 4
Great atmospheric game
>FFPS
Henry's speech carry
>HW
Return to form
>SOTM
Fresh gameplay, unlike SB it only has several empty open spaces, shitty auto save, fucked up audio
>HW2
Improvement from HW
>RUIN
Actually scary and improvement from SB
>FNAF3
Lame jumpscare
>SB
Fresh gameplay, but too colorful for a "horror" game, too many empty open spaces. Also Gregory a shit
>SL
Tedious minigames, the precedent of "FNAF stopped being FNAF" e.g bunch of minigames, sci-fi bullshit and bookshit
>FNAF 2
Mask & windup puppet simulator, no need to check camera

>>713270757
The best form of the quote is stuck on the mimics final mix.

>unreal engine walk n slop
>return to form
returning to what exactly, you buzzword spewing moron?

>>713271301
>Also Gregory a shit
Don't fucking talk that way about the shota king

>>713271587
By "return to form", he probably means it actually attempts to be scary, as opposed to Security Breach, which makes as much of an attempt at horror as a Halloween level in a Crash Bandicoot game

more like Secret of the Wife

I can't believe Scott's insane mechanical designs are trapped in this shit series.
Make Desolate Hope 2 you fucking bible thumper.

>>713268831
Uh oh melty

Why doesn't the mimic hide within a suit with the minimum amount of visual and audio clues to ambush unaware players
Why doesn't the mimic switch up the suits used per encounter, as in in a single encounter and not just "waaw he spawns in a different suit every time I reload"
Why doesn't the mimic fake you out with a suit and then flank you with a different suit or even suitless? Maybe when it spots you it can book it for your location and if you break sight you'd hear a really loud audio cue and then the limp suit would come jumping/flying at you and the mimic would have already been on route to entering another suit or coming at you from a different direction

Why are the jumpscare sounds shit, it's like a cut off version of the Joy of Creation yell and sometimes it bafflingly uses the Security Breach gregory scream.
Why are the jumpscare gifs equally shit

>>713271854
>the only man who knows the secret of futuristic robo waifus got scammed to bankruptcy by le ebin purple dude
we were robbed

>>713269080
There's two of them? I guess that's the secret

>>713271216
>you still have lots of variety because it's in a different form every time.
The variety is only in its form. There's no difference whether it's possessing the Elephant, the Hedgehog, the Nurse, or Chica, it's just a different skin. It's only different when it possesses Jackie, and that's just a gameplay chase. I'm not sure if Big Top is supposed to be it as well, but White Tiger and Moon are separate from it.
I know this is a game for kids, but if you're making the star of your game a robot that can pop in any of the hundreds of costumes in the facility to hunt you down, then AT LEAST make it so that when it loses track of you it sheds its costume and put on another one before staying still for a while. Really ramp up the paranoia.

Why does it even need to wear a costume anyway, it can just hunt you down naked. It's just fine doing that in every ending

>>713272663
>the Nurse
Didn't play the game, disregarded

>>713272737
It only becomes the Nurse halfway through her level

>>713272320
>>713272663
I really enjoyed the game but I agree with these wholeheartedly. Different costumes having different stalking styles and voice lines ffs would have brought the game from a 7 to a solid 8. The set pieces and cinematic sections were great but couldn't carry the whole gameplay experience

>>713273096
Also variety in hiding places PLEASE! Every single room in the emporium having variety lockers everywhere was ridiculous
The secret of the mimic is that his segments are the worst in the game

>>713272320
>>713272663
>>713273096
>>713273209
It's a fnaf game, the target audience is lorefags. Like, holy shit every single one of them is worse than a game journalist.

>>713273719
No I think this is a valid complaint. Why make your antagonist a robot that can mimick any character if they are all going to act the same?

>>713273719
Look I'm not a lorefag but I doubt I'd really like to keep up with the shenanigans of the random OC introduced at the end of the last game that's totally behind most of the events of everything.

>>713273835
Small indie company, please understand. They also tried to compress game filesizes by using fisheyed PNG backgrounds unlike Security Bloated

I don't get why everyone is acting like Henry and William are any different from before. Edwin had clearly lost his shit and was already past saving by the time they decided to steal his IPs.

>>713274154
>Small indie company, please understand
This but unironically. I'll never understand why Scott didn't splurge on a dev that was a bit more established

>>713274202
I was a bit lost by this plot point. Seemed by the time they would be able to steel hit copyright, they would have already been in the process of buying him out. Especially since the first fnaf location was seemingly in development all the way up to that buyout

>>713270757
Big Top was the highlight of the game for me. Tough cunt kept killing me during that ultra-long chase.

>>713267662
whos that?

>>713275171
Vanessa from Security Breach. She's hotter as Vanny

>>713274482
With how much of an aspie he was I highly doubt Edwin even thought to get anything registered under his copyright, let alone bothered to between running the business and trying to band-aid his crumbling life with robots.

>>713274071
You're 6 years late to complain about OC donut steel, really. Everything from steelwool era is soft reboot. Expect more bookshit OCs to come into the game, just enjoy the (log) ride.
>>713274269
He's a cheapskate and wants to sell as many books as he could. Like, really? 58 books?

I FOUND YOOOOUUUU!

>>713275373
What I'm wondering is why/how they would steel his copyright, and in what context, if they are purchasing his company. It doesn't really track.

Unless it was someone other than fazbear

>>713267097 (OP)
>generic "hide in a locker, throw distraction item, find audio logs" horrorslop
>"return to form"

>>713271546
true: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOnrMRwiUrw

>>713272663
That's what I the gameplay would be, the Mimic disguising and you detecting it.
Like walking past a "empty suit" and it grabs you, when your back is turned.
So you would have to identify how each costume/animatronic normally looks and behaves to avoid contact and dying.
Something like reverse prop hunt, where the prop is the hunter and a weeping angel

>>713276591
That also kind of sounds like the vents in Alien Isolation, where you have to keep an eye out for the Alien's drool leaking from the ceiling

>>713276469
AALL HANDS ON DICK!

>>713276128
This, sitting in one spot and closing doors is what all horror should be.

>>713276937
>keep an eye out for the Alien's drool leaking
Never played that game but exactly that.
The Mimic's eyes would be the telegraph

>>713272737
it is the Nurse, dumbfuck, watch the elevator scene again closely.

>>713276128
How many games actually do this to be labeled generic slop?

>>713278008
My point was that the nurse plays nothing like the mimic segments

>>713278023
>Penumbra
>Amnesia
>Outlast
>Alien Isolation
>Call of Cthulhu 2018
>Still Wakes the Deep

>>713278274
That's it? Might as well call all things slop.

>>713278060
What does she do differently? I haven't played the game

>>713278550
Her first encounter she's moving on rails, she slides very fast but only on the designated tracks, you gotta duck out of the way when she's passing by, she does not chase you.
After that she behaves mostly the same as the other Mimic encounters except for the doors meant exclusively for her, she can use those but you can't.

>falls into a pit of lava and digs out of it
>tosses heavy shit around like its nothing
>tanks a bridge falling on it and lifts it
>somehow(?) catches up to a speeding van
>remains completely unscathed through it all
what the fuck did edwin put into this fucking thing

>>713278476
It's a small genre, what do you expect?

>>713278768
The secret to raising any child, a healthy dose of beatings

>>713275219
>She's hotter as Vanny
false

>>713278768
Better question, what the fuck did Fazfuck Ent put in that elevator in Ruin that managed to cut off its hand? Adamantium doors?

har har har har har

>>713279895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H10xp3u5AxE

>>713278768
Mogs the Terminators with feats like that. What the hell was Edwin thinking?

>Monster chasing (you) is pinned down by a sliding metal door and either dies or give you plenty of times to get away
Just once I'd like to this this happens only for the door to hold down the monster for like 2 seconds before they shrug it off

I found the secret ending very emotional

>Robot David telling the recording of his parents that he loves them

>>713283941
does the last chase sequence with the mimic count
>starts by catching the metal door before it closes, buys you like 5 seconds, just enough to start the generator
>catches the elevator door at the end and is about to open it when the other door closes and gets you away
>drops down that very same elevator shaft approximately 20 seconds later
not to mention the falling bridge part

>>713284579
He cute

>>713267097 (OP)
It just doesn't feel like FNAF anymore.

>>713267097 (OP)
so whats the secret

>>713285008
it put bombs in your belongings

>>713285358
What a silly bomb thief.

>>713284951
This one felt more like fnaf than any game since 3, genuinely

>>713285704
>Doesn't take place over five nights
>Barely any Freddy
>Almost no ghosts
>No resource management besides fetch quests
>90% of all animatronics you encounter behave the same, wonder why the Mimic was bothering to change outfits
>*Gasp* it's like...the first game, except with a spin (probably the third time they did this since Pizzera Simulator)

>>713286140
>>Doesn't take place over five nights
>>Barely any Freddy
>>Almost no ghosts
>>90% of all animatronics you encounter behave the same

Uhhhh bro?

>>713278768
if this thing really is burntrap it must've beat the shit out of the blob freddy when it grabbed him

>>713287161
Burntrap was retconned unfortunately. Mimic was in gay baby jail until he baited Cassie into letting him out
but yes he probably would have either beat the shit out of the blob, or worse, taken it over like a suit

>>713267097 (OP)
After listening to the conversation the Mimic and Edwin had right after the Mimic bombed his office I'm fully behind this guy as the villain. He's just pure evil but his mimicry quirk gives him unique tools and weaknesses. I also can't shake the feeling Scott put a lot of effort into every aspect him. He does look like the robots from the Desolate Hope.

>>713287648
How crazy does the Mimic's shapeshifting get? I see he can grow taller or shorter, but can he stretch out?

>>713287648
so then what is burntrap then? glitchtrap with afton's remains? the original afton is still stuck in ultimate hell

>>713287826
He inhabits Jackie and Big Top with zero issue, he could probably take over Tangle.
The main issue is, what is he mimicking? The Blob is either a bunch of Remnant just kind of existing or it's 10 different children trying to work together.

>secret of the mimic
>good
Isn't this the one that looks like poppy's playtime complete with "horror" chase sequences where the thing does dumb shit like destroy everything in the environment but you?

>>713287985
Burntrap isn't canon anymore but he was ultimately just the Mimic pretending to be Afton.

>>713267097 (OP)
So Willy and Henry were conmen all along?

>>713267097 (OP)
The AI of the mimics is functionally better than the Glamrocks
The designs are a bit shit though

>>713288168
>WTF why is the game a game instead of instantly killing you (super realistic)???

lol.

>>713288438
Brother it's lame.

>>713287985
Burntrap is nothing. He's a mistake that was retconned out of canon, but if you must attribute him to a character then he's the Mimic. Steel Wool misunderstood Scott Cawthon's intentions and made a big "true ending boss fight" spectacle out of what Scott wanted to be a small easter egg and theory fuel. Made a big fire out of what Scott wanted to be a little spark, y'know? So they retconned it in Ruin.

>>713287985
>so then what is burntrap then?
not canon
gregory's fanfiction
a hallucination
I dunno, take your pick

>>713287826
someone posted an image of Jackie's model that showed the Mimic being hilariously deformed inside her, don't know if that's real or a joke

>>713288534
I'm not your brother. Stop being a zoomer and going into random threads and going, "I don't know anything about the thread topic but let's talk about Poppy Playtime."

>>713288175
>>713288545
>>713288609
wait, he was really retconned? was this said anywhere? then what's the actual true ending of sb?

my name is edwin
i made the mimic
it was hard to put the pieces together

>>713288951
The 3-star ending, the one where you leave with Freddy's head and an unbrainwashed Vanessa
That's why in Ruin Gregory is not only out of the Pizzaplex but also tells Cassie he has a "friend" who has the blueprints of the building (Vanessa)

>>713288184
Henry designed springlock technology with Edwin. That's why when he pulled the plug, the project failed, Edwin had no use for springlocks because he didn't sell them.
Everything else can be explained away, Chica probably came via a corporate merger with Chica's Party World, while Foxy, the house and all the other MCM ips were actually stolen by William.

>>713288951
Ruin decanonizes it, and Scott held an interview where he explained that Burntrap was created due to miscommunication.

>>713288996
my name is david
that is my name
david
there is another
david

>>713289105
>The 3-star ending, the one where you leave with Freddy's head and an unbrainwashed Vanessa
ah, i see
>That's why in Ruin Gregory is not only out of the Pizzaplex but also tells Cassie he has a "friend" who has the blueprints of the building (Vanessa)
isn't that mimic gregory saying that though?
>>713289259
lmao as if sb wasn't fucked up enough

>>713288951
Scott himself admitted in an interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrgSbteWMC8) that Burntrap was not at all supposed to be what it turned out to be and that Ruin is his and Steel Wool's way to unfuck the mess that was Security Breach. Ruin has various little collectible drawings of all the "false" endings as a way to deconfirm the various endings in Security Breach, as if they were just random shit Gregory came up with or whatever. The Burntrap ending is one of them. By process of elimination and other clues, the Princess Quest ending is the canon ending to Security Breach.

I think Scott trying to be vague about the story is the reason steel wool ruined the story of SB. they had to take the scraps scott told them and fit them in ways he didn't intend. so for secret of the mimic they made the story as clear and unvague as possible

>>713289586
>isn't that mimic gregory saying that though?
No the real gregory says it while mimic is fighting Roxy
it's why he can tell you the directions to turn during the chase

>>713286424
Imo the first game felt like it had the strongest presence of ghosts/the supernatural. The spirits literally hijack the night 5 phonecall just to remove any uncertainty that these animatronics/this pizzeria are possessed. The random visual splashes of "it's me" and the presence of golden freddy (who, for all intents and purposes, is practically an incorporeal being in fnaf 1) contribute to this as well.

Then again, fnaf2 & 3 had all of the spirits in the minigames, so they do have more of a presence in those games, but fnaf 1 is the game that actually blends paranormal activity seemlessly into the core gameplay. The minigames are more of a series of vignettes for the player to watch.

I don't have time to play it, just tell me the mimic's secret

>>713290189
There's two of them. One thinks it's the mom of the kid who died, and the other just wants to kill everyone while playing dress up.

>>713290271
Alright thanks. god bless

what happened to cassie after ruin?

>>713290430

>>713290430
Blob food

>>713289716
At 21:50:
>I'm hesitant to say this because I don't like messing with the lore, but I think in this case it's okay.
>When it comes to Burntrap... originally, Burntrap was never supposed to move. He was supposed to just be something you saw in the corners, or like if you were walking past the machinery you might be able to peek in between two things and see him in the corner propped up against a wall, almost like some kind of decaying movie prop.
>And you never fully understood what his purpose was. And he had a very specific purpose. And I'm not gonna say what that purpose was, but realistically he never moved.
Burntrap was intended to basically just be this. Just a far away, oddly familiar springtrap-looking thing you could rarely catch glimpses at random spots of to make you question things and theorize because Scott thrives off theorybait. But Scott communicated extremely poorly with Steel Wool, treating the group responsible for developing the newest game in his franchise like they were theorists and only feeding them keywords and hints and never the full intended story, so they obviously got the wrong idea.

>>713267097 (OP)
So does this play like security breach and is it better than security breach?

>>713270757
Tickets please.

>>713290849
>Burntrap was just meant to be rare appearances that would appear from time to time
Did the devs behind Security Breach get fired? What made Secret of the Mimic so much better than SB?

>>713290430
scissoring with roxy in the dark depths while hiding from the mimic

>>713272663
>The variety is only in its form. There's no difference whether it's possessing
>t. didn't play the game at all
The Mimic has noticeably different speeds and levels of reactiveness d0eendign on what body it is using. It is also LITERALLY every animatronic in the game because it's 'code' possesses all of them, even the ones it isn't directly inside of - this includes Big Top amongst others.

>>713291185
Most likely they just got better over time and Scott learned to actually communicate exactly what he wanted from them instead of giving them snippets and hoping they'd divine his purpose.
There's already a glitch with the locker rooms which allows speedrunners to finish the game in four minutes so who knows if it's as mega buggy as SB was before.

>>713291185
>What made Secret of the Mimic so much better than SB?
Nta but from what I can gather from all the posts here, communication. Scott had to be explicit to prevent another SB.

>>713291321
>even the ones it isn't directly inside of
Are you sure it's not actually inside Big Top? We know for a fact it was inside Dollie after she goes off the rails.

>>713282854
>Edwin
>thinking
Lol. Lmao even.

>game is about a sentient robot that can mimic voices and change its shape to fit inside costumes
IMO they should've made an Ennard-centric game instead. But killing it off in PS and the "Ennard's actually just a vessel for the ghosts from FNAF 1-3" reveal kind of left the character in a corner.

>>713291518
You could still make a "one enemy" game with Ennard's chronological final form so far: the Blob
picture this, a medium sized building, tentacles come out of holes in the floor, walls and ceilings, heads of various animatronics like F.Freddy, F.Foxy, Baby, etc. pop out and scan for targets, tentacles even slide out and start operating machinery
we know it's active and that it tunneled out of the Pizzaplex, that never got resolved

>>713291448
If it IS inside Big Top, then either it's hooked into a control center somewhere or the damn thing's stretching and sizeshifting abilities are even more nonsense than I thought. I only say it probably infected him via his coding because of the fact every other Edwin animatronic is infected (they all have its trademark glowing yellow ypeyes under its control) and the fact it frequently repeats the "Tickets please" line during its final chase.

>>713267097 (OP)
MY NAME IS EDWIN

>>713270757
this shit looks so fucking retarded. i'd expect to see this level of absurdity in poppy playtime, not fnaf. wtf happened to this series after fnaf 6.

>>713291965
>anon thinks this is absurd
>after William built a fucking super science-occult facility in Sister Location

>>713291965
>after fnaf 6
the game with scrap baby and molten freddy??

I find it funny how similar the main antagonists of the 2 biggest mascot horrors are.
>Mimicking voices and personalities
>Can alter their size
>Created by a man who appears friendly to the public but is a total asshole in reality
>Goal is to get revenge on everyone for the pain they experienced
>Forms a bond with a boy only for them to die in an accident
I'm stretching a bit but it's still an interesting coincidence.

>>713292067
>>713292040
>broken down chuck e cheese animatronics in a warehouse vs giant fantastical willy wonka machine
yep ur right no difference to me

>>713289175
They bought out the company, didn't literally steal IP

>>713292306
>broken down
Anon, the SL animatronics are literally highly advanced sci-fi robots who can scoop out their own innards to become a horrifically powerful conglomerate that is borderline unstoppable. The only ridiculous thing about Big Top in comparison is the fact he's the size of a house

>>713290852
Kinda not really. It plays like if security breach had all of its fat trimmed, good qualities focused on, and was actually polished, which, go figure, made for a pretty good game

>>713292450
The ONLY point I wasn't able to suspend my disbelief in Secret was when the nurse Jackie animatronic seemed to have complex AI compared to literally anything else in the game (besides the mimick itself obviously)

Didn't security breach have an equally big robot to big top?
Unless I'm misremembering how big Music Man was.

this thing also looks ridiculous. amazing digital circus looking mf.

>>713292665
DJ Music Man is much much bigger

>>713267097 (OP)
Into the pit is probably the best fnaf game of the 2020s desu, the steel wool games all sucks and look like shit

>>713292665
DJ Music Man is significantly larger.

>>713292665
DJ Music Man is, from my eyeballing, about x1.5 times bigger than Big Top

>>713278768
Our Girl never stood a chance... ;_;

>>713292665
Yes but Security Breach is also completely absurd and doesn't bother trying to be anything but hard sci fi

The inclusion in Secret of the Mimick feels noticably out of place when the rest of what goes on is grounded in reality

>>713292854
If the Mimic were smart he'd have gutted Roxy then used her body to lure Cassie

>>713292854
If Roxy wasn't already half destroyed it would have been a much closer fight, she was an absolute unstoppable tank. I guess you could say the Mimic is more durable though like how 50s cars were big chunks of metal compared to today's more brittle plastics and stuff.

We've now had a steel wool game adjacent in style to Sister Location and it's sci Fi tech, and one grounded in 70s/80s aesthetic and technology like fnaf 1 and 2

Next I'd like to see them do a game with the FNAF 4 aesthetic

>>713292854
We can rebuild her… make her faster, stronger, more marketable!

>>713292854
The Mimic holding up that bridge isn't really anything special, Monty could have stopped this enormous metal bucket if not for the walkway giving out underneath him

https://youtu.be/YtyT_6mS_kc?t=8

>>713293245
I'm holding out hope for some, anything set in Fredbear's Family Diner.
For how important it is we only see it in the Fnaf 4 cutscenes and the Security Puppet minigame. There's an entire springlock failure and the initial stages of characters who would become extremely important later, all untouched so far.

>>713293531
I'd have agreed with you 10 years ago, but now I'm at the point where I appreciate the unwritten rule that we never see Fredbears directly, and only ever see hints of what Fredbear himself ever actually looked like

>>713292887
>Mimick
>Notably out of place
>Grounded in reality

Really continuing the trend of everyone crying about realism in games like these being total drooling retards.

>>713293645
Isn't golden freddy just fredbear? I am a lorelet please forgive me.

>>713293035
Mimic could also see. I assume that was something of an advantage.

>>713292217
>Created by a man who appears friendly to the public but is a total asshole in reality
By all indications Elliot was a genuinely nice guy who only really wanted to bring back his daughter using the poppy fluid and help gifted kids. Assuming the Prototype is him after being made into a Bigger Body, then presumably he only became evil after becoming genuinely insane in the process and if it WASN'T made by or became him, then he's entirely innocent of its current crimes.

>>713293035
In the books it's not even close, Mimic is like a masterpiece where all the other animatronics are mass produced junk in comparison. They all job to it.

>>713294101
It's unclear. Nightmare Fredbear and the representation of Fredbear in the atari segment is very visibly a different shape
fatter, with a different head shape
but the "Fredbear" in UCN is a Golden Freddy recolor

>>713294101
We don't really know the specifics, but it seems likely that Golden Freddy is the FNAF 1 location Fredbear, while the ORIGINAL Fredbear, from Fredbears Family Diner, is the one that inspired Nightmare Fredbear and we see a prototype of in Secret

Im sure there's a definitive answer, but its usually pretty inconsistent

>>713293035
anon, prime Roxy jobbed to a fucking go-kart, Mimic survives a car crash in two different endings in SOTM without any apparent damage to its body
you COULD maybe argue that Ruin Mimic has been rusting away for decades and decades down there, maybe, but Roxy is also fucked at that point

>>713294101
"Golden Freddy" is more of an offshoot of Fredbear. Fredbear is the original animatronic and father of all Freddies, Golden Freddy is the ghostly manifestation of some dead kid(s) no one agrees on the identity of who may or may not have been killed by/inside/whateverthefuck Fredbear.

>>713294494
Okay but where does
>Freddy Blanco (calvo, sin sombrero)
fit into the power ranking.

>Scott will never make another game that's not just a Five Nights at Freddy's spinoff
>we will never get another Desolate Hope
feels bad man...

>>713287985
Burntrap was never mimic
The retards just keep parroting this shit but the only thing close between them is that Mimic imitates people and burntrap imitates afton due to being a digital copy of him uploaded into the endo.

>>713294729
Scott will never make another game bro he quit the Mimic of the Secret was made by some other guys.

>Plot of the next game would be Mimic from Ruin accessing the glitchtrap files
>Gets overpowered by the files and overtaken by Willy as a result, since one is just a program and the other is a digital backup of ones' fucking soul
>Randomly switches between mimic and Glitchtrap, both fighting for control
It would be retarded, it would be a copout of 6 (again), but DAMN if it wouldnt be fun unless SW fucks it up again.

>>713294729
This game is inspiring some fangames apparently, there's one on gamejolt I believe, though it's probably made by some aspirational teenagers and will never be finished

>>713287985
>>713294889
Its at the bare minimum the mimick AI uploaded into the Endo that springlocked William. That's all glitchtrap even is, after all, is the Mimick AI mimicking Afton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk8Bv1yqNl4&list=RDNk8Bv1yqNl4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwTe1szAtBM&list=RDbwTe1szAtBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsE6_77FNB4&list=RDVsE6_77FNB4
the music was surprisingly good

I really do like that SotM retains the whole supernatural aspect of the series that Security Breach threw away for AI.
Like, it feels like Steel Wool GOT that part of the series' appeal is having apparitions that could be explained away by plausible deniability.
>In the first game Phone Guy explains that the robots are just following their faulty programming until you read the notes that imply they're possessed
>In the second game the Toys are explained away the seame
>In Sister Location you can chalk the robots being murderous up to them being made by William fucking Afton
SotM retains this since for the most part you just think it's the Mimic, a rogue AI, trying to kill you, until you get to the basement and realize he's NOT the only malicious entity there since the Tiger (David's ghost) and the Moon (whatever he is) are both 100% supernatural forces that aren't the Mimic. Even beforehand there's that Elephant head that lights up like the FNAF 3 bad ending screen without any explanation.
I hope the next game keeps that balance since Security Breach dropped the ball hard on it.

>>713296021
it sure is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp8o35zahgo

>>713296345
>and the moon
is this a secret ending thing? if it is don't tell me, I haven't done ng+ yet

>>713296680
It's essential for the NG+ secret ending but in a hidden away part of the basement there's something wearing a moon costume sealed away down there by the employees before the Mimic even became hostile. Some people think it's not even an animatronic but a dude who died in the basement and came back as a zombie.

>>713296972
huh
is there anything else I can miss that would lock me out of the ending? I picked up the...thing in the parachute ending that carries over

>>713267097 (OP)
Is it like security breach? That was the FNAF game I liked the most.

>>713296345
>Toys
Pretty sure toys were always blatantly stated to be robots with buggy(?) face recognition and never posessed, while the posessed ones were the weathered because they're the same ones as in 1.

>>713297167
It's more like Ruin/Help Wanted.

>>713297241
There's a second set of dead kids that William kills in 2 that presumably possess the Toys afterwards and lead to the Bite of 87. They just never get brought up at all after 2.

>>713297167
I'd say yeah. It's pretty similar. You sneak around, you hide from patrolling enemies, there's a "hub" area you return to after heading out to the branch areas that are the domain of a particular enemy you have to first hide from and then confront in a chase...yeah, it's basically like SB

>>713297241
Funny how we still don't know that much about the Toys. You could be right, but there was also the DCI and so the Toys can also just be possessed.
The DCI is among the box and 87 for things we just kinda forgot about.

>>713297264
>>713297345
Thanks for the info, I will pick it up then

>>713297241
William actually murdered a second set of id's who are heavily implied to have went on to possess the toys. They simply get completely forgotten in favor of the main man himself.

>>713267097 (OP)
>retcons Henry to being pointless and makes it so Edwin created literally everything in FNAF

This franchise is a fucking joke.

Anyone else think that the steelwool games miss what made scott fnaf more unique and interesting? like they used to be actue micromanagement stress sims but now they are more generic.

>>713297801
the sneaking parts are definitely more generic, true
I wish they made a game that was ONLY the management parts
you know, the tubes in Big Top's room, the elevator controls while Dollie is knocking on the ceiling, basically a full game of Vent Repair and Parts & Service from Help Wanted

>>713297767
Oh no not the sanctity of Henry, fan favorite and deepest character in the franchise.

>>713297767
He appears in the next movie anon, and as far as we know Edwin doesn't exist in the movie timeline.

>>713278768
how the fuck has this thing survived more than 50 fucking years? you'd think afton would try to at least recruit this thing before he died

>>713298176
>Comes out of the blue at the very ending to deliver the most kino fucking moment in the entire franchise which resonate to this day

Don't be a facetious little faggot. It's just bad writing. Like Skullface in MGSV super secretly fighting all the bosses in MGS3 and making it easy for Bibo. Just retroactively taking the piss out of an established character.

Are these games actually fun to play if you don't give a shit about lore? Never touched any of 'em.

>>713298523
None of this changes by him not being the designer of the characters. In fact that shit was always a book thing only

>>713298469
In Ruin we find it hidden under the old Fnaf 6 pizzaria, the one that was literally just a trap built by Henry. Sometime after Henry goes missing, he must've found F10-N4 and M2 and locked them up so it couldn't start any trouble.

>>713297943
I guess to articulate it better fnaf1-4 had each animatronic have its own mechanic that feed into each other to keep you constantly stressed, but now its more just like cinematic set pieces with very boring "get the thing from here and go here do this" busywork.

>>713298654
The Clickteam games are all kino resource management games. SB is a miserable experience but Ruin and this game are really high quality, modern mascot horror games.

>>713298654
Classic-style FNAF games are fun if you enjoy continuous stress buildup. They're very good at that.
Security Breach, Ruin and SOTM are...fine, if you're into more generic horror games, the "sneak and hide" kind. Think Amnesia.

>>713267097 (OP)
Telling FNAF fan that this is a lame Poppy's Playtime ripoff is good fun.

Some even try to cope by saying 'not uh, it takes more influence from RE!"

>>713298839
At this point might as well say all horror games are Amnesia rip-offs

>>713298654
1-6 are like, a fun episodic resource management series. They are (mostly) solid but very shallow besides their core mechanics. The remade versions of 1-3 in VR are phenomenal and probably the best the series has to offer.

This new one is really good actually. It's not perfect or anything, but the setting and set pieces are really really fun even if you don't give a shit about the lore, which would be fine regardless since it's currently the earliest point in the timeline

>>713278768
>falls into a pit of lava and digs out of it
He fucking fell in to molten metal/lava twice, once as Nurse and once at the bridge section. It didn't do shit.
What the fuck Edwin?

>>713299034
>remade versions of 1-3 in VR
Oh boy I've always wanted to die from a heart attack.

>>713298816
>>713298821
>>713298839
They should have built off of sister location instead of resident evil if they wanted story driven games, have more gameplay mechanics like the ones from classic fnaf instead of them just upping in difficulty connected by the story beats.

>>713299345
It's best when they are adapting the Help Wanted style mini games to a linear campaign. Like the elevator sections or mistro music man

>>713299540
And it helps keep fnaf more unique as a series, I couldn't tell you what gives fnaf its own identity outside of it being at chuckie cheese with the newer games.

>>713299540
Yeah literally just cut the busywork roaming entirely and just make it basically a big budget Sister Location
go to [animatronic]'s domain, solve esoteric puzzle with that animatronic breathing down your neck, take what you need, back to central area, go to [animatronic]'s domain...and so on until the twist final boss animatronic

>>713268115
STFU nigger

>>713299763
Keep the chases though, I liked those

>>713299876
>>713300424
Really the formula in Secret was perfect, the ratios were just all wrong. The sneaking around should be like 20 percent of the game instead of 80

>>713300705
Yeah, I would probably like that more.

>>713297767
>Edwin created literally anything
He made the base prototype designs which got iterated on once Henry and William bought out his company, which is how real businesses work. There's also the fact that Edwin's own designs had a lot more glaring flaws in them than Henry or William's did outside of their springlocks being shittier than his - Edwin' stuff became more and more prone to having massive failures that could cripple or injure people compared to the Fazbear stuff which only truly became dangerous post-possession.

It's a real shame she got so little screentime. Her chase was the best, but her personality and characterization is so entertaining. She like an overexcited puppy.

>>713267097 (OP)
It's not a replayable arcade experience, so it's not really a return to form. But it's definitely a step in the right direction from the tire fire that was Security Breach. My autism is bothered by the last two games not actually involving five nights at all.

Shush

>>713302530
Actually yeah what the fuck why isn't it five nights anymore, next you'll tell me there's no freddy in it.