Thread 713275839

Is there a possibility I might enjoy this if I found CK3 boring from all the sitting around doing nothing?

No, it's even more sitting around.

That's all you do in these types of map painting sim games.

Victoria 3 is the most sitting around game they have on offer.
And every nation plays the exact same
still pirate and play it yourself and come to your own conclusion on the matter

>>713275839 (OP)
ck3 is action packed game compared to this excel spreadsheet snooze fest

>sitting around doing nothing

Its so easy to blob around in CK3 that i don't believe you could just do nothing, Victoria 3 is more about influencing the world's economy, politics and diplomacy than blobbing around, you can still easily do it if you pick a strong nation from the start, the game is free on Steam so you can literally try it and see

>2 years old
>$100 in dlc already.
I think I'm done with Paradox.

Is it even worth it to get ck3 if I have ck2? I heard they still haven't fully fleshed out the game

>>713276786
I still can't believe every fucking gov plays like state capitalism in 2 it fucking sucks manually building roads and infrastructure

>>713278076
Yeah, fairly different games and in most areas it's much more fleshed out than CK2.

>>713275839 (OP)
This is even more boring since it's an economy simulator with only one correct path to progress.
You might enjoy one-two runs but then you will realize every run is basically the same.

>>713278179
shower status?

>>713275839 (OP)
This is the most boring nu paradox game of all op

>>713275839 (OP)
1.9 fixed everything but you must understand before you play it that this is not a war game. It's an economics and nation building game. I don't get why people play a game set in the relatively most peaceful period of European history and want to go to war constantly.

>>713278275
Less than 24 hours ago.

>>713278179
It's really only in the last year that this has been true, before that it was definitely worse than ck2. Now the only thing missing is merchant republics which might be part of the chink expansion

>>713278401
Almost got me to genuinely reply, well done

>>713278528
Merchant republics are barely on the roadmap, they still need to develop the underlying trade system. All it has for them right now is elective/unlanded play from admin government.

>>713278528
It really depends on what areas you liked to play in. Non-norse pagans? Were better in base game CK3 than CK2 with all DLCs.

>>713278528
I heard they added the entirety of Asia but still haven't given imperial byzantine and holy roman government systems yet.

>>713278528
Also I don't know why people cream themselves over merchan republics.
The implementation in Ck2 was pure shit.
Sitting around in max speed waiting for the same 10 events to fire.

>>713278701
Also I read a lot of the in game choices and decisions and they seem way more cartoonish than ck2.

>>713278948
Why bother posting when you don't know? Asia is the next expansion, Byzantine government was two expansions ago. HRE will probably remain generic elective feudal for a long time.

>>713279040
CK2 has the most ridiculous events though (Glitterhoof, Immortality, Satanistic Magic etc.).

>>713279095
>HRE will probably remain generic elective feudal for a long time.
So no HRE but Asia? lmao why are you mad that I want a fully finished game?

>>713278948
The imperial byzantine stuff was added last year along with landless adventurer

>>713279264
I also want a fully finished game, I just don't understand why you're answering questions with wrong information that could easily be googled. I think the Asia expansion will be a nightmare for performance that adds little to no meaningful depth to gameplay, but they would rather chase China money than properly develop shit like anti-popes or trade.

>glitterhoof
Yes I agree it's funny once but I get it.
>Immortality
I have never been able to get the immortality in ironmode
>satanistic magic
They burn satanists frequently if you expose your power

I'll take that over fart humor

>>713278401
The only thing that it surely didn't fix is the game balance, its still out of whack but even more so than before, the diplomatic system is especially busted

>>713279238
Thankfully those can all be disabled at game start, unlike the tiresome "you farted, gain 100 stress" events of 3

>>713279434
>adds little to no meaningful depth to gameplay
If you read the dev diaries they have some pretty cool ideas and mechanics.

>>713279527
It's not a common event dude. Stop being overly dramatic.

>>713279434
>I just don't understand why you're answering questions with wrong information
How was I wrong? They still don't have a major government system for Europe but then add all of Asia? Also I heard they still don't have working crusade mechanics in a game about crusading

>>713279704
>I heard they added the entirety of Asia but still haven't given imperial byzantine
Both parts of this are simply incorrect. Why "I heard" when you can just look at the expansions?

>>713279812
>Why "I heard" when you can just look at the expansions?
Because I don't believe shills who have already admitted lying about the game. You admit there is no HRE mechanics. still no merchant republics. I see no reason to get ck3 when I have ck2. ck3 just seems like reddit barbie dressup

>>713279812
You can stop talking to that retard. CK3 is shit and no one should pay for it but he is just trolling.

>>713280460
>merchant republics
Merchant republics always sucked.
Stop pretending it was some sort of selling point.
>HRE mechanics
There's the princly elective system I don't know what exact "HRE mechanics" you want, CK2 didn't have any.

>>713278076
I just like playing an adventurer in CK3, wandering around, and becoming a gigachad before going and founding my own kingdom.

The event spam makes kingdom management feel terrible, though.

>>713280669
I don't get how getting rid of options for gameplay is a selling point.

>>713280715
>I just like playing an adventurer in CK3, wandering around, and becoming a gigachad before going and founding my own kingdom.
This is a good selling point because I like to start as a count and work my way up to emperor.

>>713280873
They are going to implement it eventually, just with proper mechanics instead of the barebones nonsense Ck2 had.
So far every mechanical DLC they are implementing is superior to CK2.
>Norse DLC/mechanics
>Administrative Realm/Byzantine DLC
>Nomad mechanics/DLC
Far superior to CK2.

>>713278179
best dlcs for both?

I still think it's dumb that they're introducing another tier above empire just for China because they've diluted the meaning of empire over the years.

>>713281120
Pirate of buy all of them.
There's no point in getting single DLCs.

>>713281265
>they're introducing another tier above empire just for China
wtf. I hate this trend of games making china seem superior to the west. They did it with age of mythology too.

>>713281073
>They are going to implement it eventually
let me know when ck3 has the same systems ck2 has then I will play it.

>>713281914
Nah, you can fuck off.

>>713282007
why are you mad?

>>713281914
>>713282007
Because what you want is just a remake of Ck2 and we already have Ck2.

>>713282085
Ck2 with the barbie dress up system that ck3 has would be cool ngl.

it's tedious micromanagement, and then once you install the mod that automates the tedious micromanagement you realise there's literally nothing else to do.

>>713275839 (OP)
>Game cuts out half it's content to sell later as DLC
Why do retards keep supporting Paradox. They do it every fucking time.

>Victoria 3 thread
>it mostly discusses CK3

LMAO, this game is so dead. Well deserved, too. Fuck Wiz.

>>713282354
yeah once you play the game long enough you realize you are actually managing an excel spreadsheet.

>>713282505
That is what a good grand strategy game is about, interesting world dynamics, not devaluing every challenge by moving units around, if you only want that there are wargames

>>713282364
They reworked the way they make DLCs since CK3, generally they are not essential as their old DLCs used to be, the last one adds nice things but the big changes come from the patch

>>713282847
>That is what a good grand strategy game is about, interesting world dynamics
explain why you love victoria 3 then shill.

>>713282847
And by essential i meant their big DLCs, their smaller DLCs like the ones that CK2 had were overpriced dogshit like new faces or models for units

>>713282354
What do you mean, anon? You're telling me managing the type of filing cabinet every office in your country uses isn't fun or meaningful?

>>713283106
Did you just put that file in the wrong folder??? REVOLT!!! REVOLUTION!!!

>>713282987
Because its world dynamics are only second to CK3 (until EU5 comes around, maybe) but with the benefit that its not as devoid of challenge as that game, well mostly, i think the game post expansion is very unbalanced but blobbing around must still be harder than CK3.

>>713283236
Jesus Christ.

>>713283223
I personally love how a movement consisting of literally 3 people can make half your country rise up in revolution. Very realistic.

>>713275839 (OP)
No, it's even more boring. Research takes ages, laws rely entirely on RNG to pass, and the entire thing is just a state-planned economy simulator, even if you play as capitalists.

>>713282847
whatever you say Paradox shill

>>713278179
Rookie numbers

>>713283449
>state-planned economy simulator, even if you play as capitalists.
ew i hate communists.

>>713283449
>laws rely entirely on RNG to pass
Personally, I think taking EU4's siege system and using it to pass laws was a brilliant idea. Whoever came up with that should get a promotion.

>>713276786
>And every nation plays the exact same
not so much anymore because you have a world market now and can import most of ur needs

>>713283689
I'm not a communist. I'm saying that even while playing as a capitalist nation, you still have to personally build everything from farms and tool workshops to steel foundries and radio factories.

>>713283909
just go
lazyfairy
and turn autoexpand on certain factories

>>713283712
>"Pass this law pls"
>"OK"
>Law gets close to finally being passed
>"Actually we don't want this law lol"
>"Reee, why didn't you pass this law?"

>>713284037
You still have to micromanage the production methods (i.e., filing cabinets) of every business. V3 is a stalinism simulator.

>>713283449
>laws rely entirely on RNG to pass

You obviously didn't check the latest patch where countries help you pass laws by asking barely anything in exchange

>and the entire thing is just a state-planned economy simulator

Literally didn't play it, state planned economies are the worst

>>713283474
A paradox shill wouldn't say that Imperator was just "a beta" with the same crappy military system as all failed gsg projects had (Sengoku or March of the Eagles to name a few), that CK3 is not worth playing more than once since its too easy, that HOI4 is just pure shit no matter how many visual novel mods they make for it and that EU4 is the only game that i could consider pretty decent, especially with mods, Victoria 3 in its current state its just decent, the diplomacy system is in dire need of patching before i can express judgment, trade is now way better than Victoria 2 on paper because, you know, you can actually interact with it.

>>713282364
>they should have totally had the 15 years of content in the starting version of the game
What if you are the retard, anon?

>>713284347
>CK3 is not worth playing
finally we get a kernel of truth from the shill.

>>713284153
yea that shit is still annoying
maybe it''ll be fixed in patch 1.25

>>713284380
Strawman! They had the ability to implement important mechanics necessary for the game to function and they paywalled it.

>>713284447
I said more than once, there is actually a mod called Dark Ages that actually makes it somewhat challenging without giving straight bonuses to the AI but it obviously adds some mechanics that are a bit bullshit, especially for blobbers, you still need to start as a count or a duke in the middle of nowhere to enjoy the struggle.

>>713284685
people don't actually want a difficult gsg though
imagine playing for 8 hours in ur campaign and its just fucking over because the giant blob decided to blow 1000 infamy tearing you apart

>>713284347
>You obviously didn't check the latest patch where countries help you pass laws by asking barely anything in exchange
No, I played it as various countries, got bored, and moved on to a different game.
>Literally didn't play it, state planned economies are the worst
Yes I did. The capitalists barely build anything at all, even when conditions are favourable and there is significant demand for their stuff.

>>713284685
Say it again Paradox. CK3 is not worth playing. That's what you said. Don't even pirate it. Don't play it got it!