The PlayStation can produce mind-boggling effe-
Wait how the fuck did they do that?

>inb4 it's le rendered twice
WHY CAN'T MODERN GAMES JUST RENDER TWICE? I GET IT IF IT'S A GAME LIKE SPIDER MEN WHERE EACH BUILDING AROUND YOU CASTS A REFLECTION BUT WHY NOT A SMALL MIRROR???

>>713284627
your pc can barely render it once

>>713285186
FUCKING GOT HIS BITCH ASS

>>713285186
lmao
probably true tho
modern games aren't optimized for shit

mind-boggling graphics

>>713286173
can you imagine the shitstorm if a game halved the fps each time you walked passed a mirror or shiny surface?

>>713285186
>a pajeet coded the game and there are more poligons on the fat aloy's face than the entirety of some random ps2 game
yeah and?

>>713286286
What's stopping them from making a different room behind the mirror with another player model copying your movements?

There is still a 3d rendered environment under the 2d assets so they can use that to apply extra effects.

>>713284483 (OP)
>its truly impressive how the flashlight has absolutely no impact on the pre-rendered lighting in this scene and it's really just a trivial to implement filter being applied to a simple 2D image
Retards

>>713286610
This nigga is getting emotional over video games

>>713286610
Still looks better than 90% of modern games

>>713286610
And yet the end result looks better than a lot of modern games.

>>713286416
That trick doesn't work anymore with the sophisticated modern rendering techniques going on now. The fake reflection won't match the scene.

>>713286841
>>713286856
"better than modern games" mind

>>713286841
>>>713286856
>>713286856
No, it really doesn't look better when the flashlight goes straight through the beam without casting a shadow or doesn't remove the shadows they baked into the scene when the flashlight is shining directly onto them. It's looks terrible by today's standards. Even the crappiest of indie games has better than this.

>>713284483 (OP)
We lost the technology for it and it's a painful process to build it up again.

>>713287087
ESL post, opinion discarded.

>>713287087
At least there's an attempt at reflection, which looks better than none.

>>713287137
Literally demake

>>713286947
Well it's fucking gay. Because

>>713287137
Looks better and clearer than modern games. I remember zooming in on mirrors to spot the difference between the low poly models and the "real" zombies. Kino.

>>713287137
>webm
that's depressing

>>713284483 (OP)
You can do this shit in Blender. Just open tbe program, put in render mode, adjust light settings and play with the default light like its your dick.

>>713286257
They released Dark souls 2 on the Wii?

>>713284483 (OP)
There are no reflections in that image. It's just double rendering the character backwards. Two characters, two flashlights, two light cones. It's fine to double render a limited number of characters in a small room. It does not scale well with scene size or complexity.

>>713290323
How come Pokémon games don't do this then? The Switch was barely more powerful than a PS1.

>>713287137
RE Engine sucks at reflections in general.. Resident Evil and Monster Hunter can't do it either.

Was this game any good? I have fond memories of playing the demo on PS1

>>713290690
The best one of the classic REs was Code Veronica. The others are boring as shit.

>>713290536
God, the water in Wilds is so trash

You can't do this without raytracing we lost the technology please buy nvidia

>>713287167
Race issue
You are brown

I guess is that behind the pre-rendered background in the game collision and the camera effect interacts with the game collision but appears over the pre-rendered background.

>>713285186
>>713284627
>>713284483 (OP)
rendering large part of the scene twice is still faster than goytracing

>>713287137
Lmao

>>713287137
>We lost the technology for it and it's a painful process to build it up again.
NASA says hiring more obese black women is the solution

>>713285186
Shut the fuck up, you retarded graphic whore.

>>713284483 (OP)
Am I supposed to be impressed by this

>>713290467
>The Switch
That console could literally handle The witcher 3, you dumb fuck. Of course it was way more powerful than fucking PS1 made in 1994.

>>713284483 (OP)
It's just real time masking / overlay. The light is an alpha mask basically.

because its pre-rendered. this only works here because the camera angle doesn't change

>>713293995
The flashlight effect is not prerendered, it's dynamically reflected from the mirror depending on where you point it

>>713286257
PWNED AND BONED

>>713285186
damn

>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST RENDER IT TWICE THAT'S CHEATING IT DOESN'T COUNT REEEEEEEE
Explain why not. Rendering it twice produces far better results and is apparently cheaper and easier to implement if we're going by shit like dead rising on the Wii having working mirrors or Douk 3D in 1996.

>>713284483 (OP)
OMG HOW DID THEY DO THAT ON A GBA GAME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>713295367
My guess is that there's a certain threshold near the water that the game uses to draw the current sprite near the edge of the pond but mirrored and with a blue tint to it. It looks complicated but it's rather simple. IIRC the trees also do the same shit too. I may be off base but that's my guess.

>>713286257
its better with the death scream

>>713294412
the illuminated version of the room is pre-rendered, and then they just display a cone of that version based on a simple bit of geometry representing the flashlight's beam

>>713296795
The reflected light looks like it has the same borders as vertex painting, and the shapes of the light are too dynamic to be a simple static mask revealing a lit room prerender, there's definitely some 3D ray calculation going on

>>713284627
Because there isn't a tickbox for mirrors on UE5

>>713297565
There quite literally is.
You can enable planar reflections with a single tickbox in the project settings.

How does the mirror know it's there tho?

>>713284483 (OP)
that game sucks asshole but it does have a nice aesthetic

>>713298553
Each mirror has an evil mastermind that operates independently

>>713295367
Ray tracing of course.

PS1 games are soul
https://youtu.be/QQw5Sep9e24

>>713295367
Each are is built twice, when you pan the camera at a certain angle you can see the rest of the environment too

>>713298553
Inside each mirror is an artist redrawing every scene from every angle from scratch.

>>713285186
LMAO

>>713291761
It's really not. I play on a 3dtv and use a mod that renders everything twice for it. It's hard to do even for games that came out in the mid 2010s.

>>713299294
how can i break them out?

>>713301087
show them an ai image and they will get mad and break out lol

>Pathtracing is usel-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUFE4M0oaIc

>>713291761
Why do you people not understand the scaleability of raytraced reflections?
Add a second mirror, now you need to render it thrice. Raytraced reflection don't care how many mirrors there are, it's just one big performance hit.

>>713301426
Man Night City looks so good it makes me wish Cyberpunk was actually a good game

>>713302193
raytracing cost does scale with scene complexity. more bounces = more calculations

>>713286257
What's the counter-play for this?

>>713284627
static scenes rendered twice (or rather an entire facade of the scene on the other side of the mirror) with a full forward rendering pipeline would be massively cheaper than current deferred rendering and ss/rt reflections, since if there's anything GPUs can actually handle well, it's drawing a fuckload of triangles
it's just way more work for the devs and more limiting, like if you want to have a mirror in a space that isn't a fully enclosed room you have to start accounting for a bunch of edgecases where the player's going to do something that makes the reflection look like shit, like walking around the side of the mirror
idk maybe portals would work

>>713302193
not necessarily true, more mirrors means you need to allow more rays and more bounces for it to look right, which is an exponential cost increase, then you also have to take in to account what your update rate is. a house of mirrors for example would look like absolute shit with half second update 2 bounce rt

>>713302889
if str: raise shield
if int: cast shield
if dex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcJPx-6pzPY

>>713302878
ok yeah maybe that was a bit too exaggerated, but the performance hit from multiple reflections is not even close to the rendering multiple times method, with raytracing it's totally possible to render a city where every windows, puddle anc car mirror reflects and it could still run.

>>713302889
move

>>713303332
bro you're massively overestimating the cost of drawing triangles, and massively underestimating the cost of deferred techniques, like a modern gpu can easily draw all of the triangles of an entire city assuming the assets aren't insane outsourced indian stuff with 2 billion tris
shit not running in the modern day is largely due to really shitty code that's bottlenecking your cpu, or your gpu being forced to do hardware acceleration on tech that has nothign to do with drawing triangles

>>713284627
stop asking questions, goy