Anons who experienced this before Meet Your Match, did you drop the game after that update or do you still play it?

>>713322717 (OP)
the majority of my hours are from before then and I no longer play it but I did not quit explicitly because of MYM per se

>>713322717 (OP)
Been playing since the pyromania update, but I avoided the worst of the Meet Your Match update since the update happened during the time I was playing TF2 less, and during that time I played almost exclusively on community servers and custom gamemodes anyways. Still play TF2 these days, but it's like a few times every year before I "drop" it again until next year, and it's mostly me playing payload, king of the hill, or farming strange weapons on 2fort, turbine, and Double Cross.

>>713322717 (OP)
Hi zesty

>>713322717 (OP)
I actually quit a little before then, before the bonus ducks thing, and then came back in... 2018 or so? 2019 maybe? and I at least had like 2 dozen new weapons to try out, still have never played with some of them, like the quickie bomb launcher, or the iron bomber. I still think of stuff like the cozy camper as new. I remember being really mad that they made the jungle inferno update and complaining because they ALREADY gave Pyro the Pyromania update, which was still fairly fresh in my mind to me. And I was shocked to learn they never added anything to mvm after I stopped playing the first time. It seemed like the natural thing to keep promoting and make more maps for. Like make a map or 2 where you're attacking robot bases, or something...

I've been playing since December 2011 and never stopped. I have stockholm syndrome with casual mode, it's absolutely dogshit but I got used to it knowing that Valve wouldn't fix it anytime soon.

>>713322717 (OP)
It killed the game. TF2 was always a casual game. They should have never listed to the compfags.

>>713322717 (OP)
dropped it when it went f2p

>>713322717 (OP)
I've been playing for 18 years, almost all of which were played on community servers. I didn't notice a single difference. Zoomers might not understand but oh well.

>>713322717 (OP)
>Meet Your Match

i had stopped playing religously at least 6 years before this. i still go on a bender and log another 100 hours or so every few years, but it's just trying to chase a dragon from the glory days, and i'll gouge out my own eyes before i ever use the matchmaking in tf2.

>>713324521
Have you tried tf2c? You might like it

>>713324713
i'll probably give it a shot once it comes to steam. i'm sure it'll be fun, but the original TF2 experience was some lightning in the bottle shit that can't be replicated so easily.

>>713322717 (OP)
I stopped playing some time after MvM came out. I forget which patch exactly. Although a lot of my time was spent fucking around on brony servers and bothering people with the sandman. I tried coming back a couple years ago but progressive skill creep from the rest of the community just kinda left me behind and I got tired of getting bodied, especially since all the movement tech development has made Heavy (my fav to play) worse as time goes on (Heavy Update never, RIP to my boy).

I could probably actually buckle down and git gud again but it's hard to find the time when I already don't have enough to do the shit I'm actually interested in these days. I just watch old gmod or SFM videos occasionally to get my nostalgia fix in.

>>713322717 (OP)
Stopped back then but I picked it back up in 2020 and still play it nowadays.
The biggest difference to me is the sheer volume of friends and communities that faded after the removal of quickplay killed traffic to community servers. Back then you'd launch steam and you'd have dozens of friends in-game that you could join and play with or against with a couple of clicks. You'd stay on the same maps and servers against the same people for hours so you'd talk and make friends with someone new every other day. The only times since that I've experienced something similar is on rocket jump maps, with groups of us proceeding through the maps at the same time and helping stragglers, and with community-run sixes. There's still regular players to chat with on the few remaining community servers but the vast majority of them are discord degens or loudmouth dumbasses.

>>713322717 (OP)
i did drop it a couple of times both due irl issues and just getting sick of it kind of regret it since i missed tough break and some of the weapon skins are one of the best ones to ever be released and expensive af but im still here, not playing as much as i did pre MyM update but still do a couple of matche's per day.

Nah I kept playing.
2010 on PC
2007 in general (I got it on Xbox and played for a bit while I had Live)
The whole "user servers are dead" is an entire internet thing rather than a "there's matchmaking thing", especially now since LITERALLY FUCKING EVERYONE can just run a server from in game since there's Steam Multiplayer these days and use the workshop for fast map downloads.
Also lmao at the SAVIORS OF USER SERVERS not informing their viewers that they're completely unnecessary now since EVERYONE can host them.

>>713322717 (OP)
take it to >>528340052 faggots
please for the love of god use the general. it's so awful its just unrelated anime porn and demofloyd memes non-stop

>>713326734
You stay in your hell where you belong nigger.
And take your faggot youtuber dads with you.

>>713326734
You'd have to pay me to spend time in that containment zone shithole.

>>713322717 (OP)
I tried Team Fortress 2 for about a week when it first came out, but I couldn't stand it because it was slow and there was no grenades, so I went back to the other games.

>>713326827
>>713326893
nooooo don't leave me here bros

I played between 2008 and 2011 and remember my time with the game fondly. I don't really want to return to it and see how it's been destroyed. I imagine there's lots of cheating and bots

>>713322717 (OP)
I dropped it when they raped the already not so great Righteous Bison for literally no reason. The anti-fun mindset valve had ruined the game.

>>713327898
the bots are more or less taken care of
it's the trannies you have to worry about now

>>713327898
>I imagine there's lots of cheating and bots
There's a lot of cheating if you're playing with randos because that's just the state of gaming.
But the bots have been dead for like a year now much to the fury of youtubers who needed it as a bargaining chip.
If you know enough niggas you can load up a server to play with and vet everyone to not be fags.

>>713327585
How old are you, anon?

>>713328159
probably late 40s early 50s

Heavy should be buffed to 400 HP by default.
>Overheal takes him to 600HP
>dalokohs bar gives him 450 base which can still be one-shot by a fully charged sniper shot but now makes him able to survive a full clip of rockets or pills
>GRU now takes longer to drain his HP fully
>bigger discrepancy between sandvich and second banana, which makes them more balanced with eachother than they are right now
>buffalo steak sandvich and/or bear claws have more hp to work with with the vulnerabilities
probably some more upsides but it just seems like an obvious and easy buff with little to no downsides. What are people gonna do to abuse it? Run heavy and die to 2 people all the same? Still die because nobody knows how to track with heavy anyway?

>>713328309
Just dodge homo

Reminder that compfags actually LIED about how this worked in order to get Valve to nerf it.
>>713328309
Eviction notice should also be changed away from a shit version of the GRU

>>713322717 (OP)
I played from the Gold Rush & Medic Update to the Mann-conomy Update, starting on 360 with The Orange Box. I really disliked the growing emphasis on cosmetics, and the addition of gambling in the Mann-conomy Update cemented my decision to quit.
>do you still play it
I've tried to play it on-and-off over the years, but nothing comes close to the experience of playing on old community servers. I know that servers like Uncle Dane's exist, but these are filled with players with thousands and thousands of hours in the game. I liked the community servers I played on because they were a healthy mixture of n00bs, average players, and Gregors. I did not like matchmaking system when I was forced to engage with it. I also do not like the modern player base of TF2.

I enjoyed the Deadlock alpha when I tried it and I hope the game develops in a healthy, fun direction. It's the first time I've felt enthusiasm for a team-based competitive multiplayer game since TF2 and Titanfall 2, even though it's obviously much more competitively-oriented than TF2.

>>713328337
heavy isn't good enough and should be buffed, simple

>>713328454
>Eviction notice should also be changed away from a shit version of the GRU
agreed. At least make it a shitty version of the disciplinary action. Personally I'd like it if it just plain increased swing speed, gave speed on hit, and increased weapon switch speed so that it had a niche of pairing well with shotgun, in exchange for causing very little damage, maybe half as much. That would make it ideal for me; you have a new combo heavy playstyle, and you can use it for situational escapes, but it's not good for getting to the fight like the gru is.

>>713328636
>heavy isn't goo
Unless what your suggestion is
>Make the GRU and Eviction Notice not shit
You're just bad.

>>713328845
gru is fine ngl

>>713328891
The max health drain is a fucking retarded concept thought up as acceptable by stupid faggot retards that play with a custom hud that makes your current health a 900pt Font in the center of your screen

>>713322717 (OP)
Gun Mettle never gets talked about often enough as the thing that truly ruined tf2
>>713328309
you now remember the custom balance server STAR_ made before he became an unmitigatedly brain fried faggot

>>713322717 (OP)
I was never a matchmaking baby, so removing Quickplay in favor of Casual did very little to impact my experience. I think the most that really bothered me about it is that they had those "Prototype" servers or whatever that ran stuff like Cactus Canyon and Asteroid, and not a lot of servers run those. It's especially annoying since that, if they do run Cactus Canyon, it's the version that removed my favorite stage for it.

If anything, Meet Your Match was actually kinda fun, because it effectively exposed all the Gen Y players basically being everything they accused Gen Z of being, whereas the latter will actually host servers both local and dedicated (although in all fairness, it is also way easier to run a listen server these days)

>>713328949
I agree that Gun Mettle was the point of no return with backported CSGO features and nerfed weapons, but Meet Your Match is infinitely worse for what it did to Valve servers. If the game was abandoned around 2015 instead of 2018, it would have been in a better shape than it is now.

>>713322717 (OP)
I still play it but I miss my never ending matches in Harvest

>>713328636
How about half damage, faster swing speed and big earner boost on kill
would be worse than KGB but still leagues better than the current dumpster fire

>>713328949
>the custom balance server STAR_ made
It was dogshit, he was aware of how hyperbolic it was, yet it took him some time to realize how garbage it was.
Somewhat foreshadowing his experience with OW later on.

>>713329191
Eviction notice just being the Bat on Heavy was fine because the bat is actually really fucking good because the low base damage gives it a crazy crit rate and just rolling two crit swings in a fairly short succession kills everything but other heavies.

>>713329281
>because the low base damage gives it a crazy crit rate
low damage has nothing to do with crit rate though

>>713329356
It actually does.

>>713329454
Unless I'm misunderstanding how the crit buckets work it doesn't have anything to do with it
feel free to explain

>>713329587
Base damage and Crit Expenditure goes down
Crit chance goes up.
That and you roll the base 15% (or roughly 3/20 swings being a crit) rate WAY more frequently with a faster swinging weapon.
You shoot around midrange with a minigun for a second and you store up like 4 crits you can use.

>>713329718
By the way this is the INTENDED design of using both the Bison and Cowmangler. and why the Bison has a base damage of like, 15.

>>713322717 (OP)
What was meet your match again? I dropped it when they started adding different weapons for the characters.

When was matchmaking introduced?

>>713322717 (OP)
I kept playing. MYM was still the worst update regardless and it's consequences are felt even today.

>>713329810
meet your match, 2015 iirc
........ten years.......

>>713328454
>LIED about how this worked in order to get Valve to nerf it.
that doesn't make sense.
valve would have just told them "no lol scout doesn't outrun his hitbox" and be done with it.
valve nerfed the BFB because they wanted to nerf the BFB

>>713329935
>valve would have just told them "no lol scout doesn't outrun his hitbox" and be done with it.
valve literally doesn't know how their games work

>>713329935
If enough people screech they will change it even if it's not true.

>>713329967
then valve is retarded

>>713329935
>he thinks valve plays their own games
Did you forget about the time valve "fixed" the Bison by removing its core fucking design feature because they thought it was a bug?

>>713329935

Fuck MYM what was your experience with Love and War?

>>713330041
Being fair this happened once and was immediately followed by years straight of Valve not fucking with weapons for no reason.
>>713330096
Actually it was claimed to be a bug by one of the TFTumor/Compfags they consulted for balance changes.

>>713330197
also wasn't a fan
really felt like valve didn't understand the game
haha I didn't think it would get as bad as it did

>>713322717 (OP)
I still play almost every day but I truly miss the old valve servers where you could freely change teams and vote to scramble.
The casual mm ruleset is so dogshit for some gamemodes too, e.g. 5cp before matchmaking you'd have like 40 minutes or soto win as many rounds as you could and then the team that won the most rounds won the map.
So the match always lasted that 40 minutes instead of the shit we have now where it's first to two round winds which means a match of 5cp can run anywhere from 5 minutes to 2+ hours on the same map.

>>713328949
>glowsticks all over the floor
>medium ammo packs hogging all my killcam pics
it's shit

>>713330347
the worst is when all of the casual newfags who started playing in 2022 try to cap the last point because for some weird fucking reason they want the gamer to end as soon as possible

>>713322717 (OP)
I played this game religiously from launch until Jungle inferno. By the time that update came out the life and soul of the game was sucked out with it's balance changes imo.
TF2 will always have a place in my heart as my first multiplayer FPS, but i can't even bring myself to play it these day.

>>713330728
yeah idk i remember dming on the same map for hours at a time scrambling the teams over and over
nowadays you can't even bm on last when the teams are stacked because some noob will just get on the point

>>713330728
I can't really say that's my experience, most servers seem game to fuck around on last if the timer isn't too low.

>>713328309
Heavy is a boring as fuck class no one plays outside of rage
He's extremely dull and repetitive to play as or against, fuck off and give him more interesting weapons instead of making this filler character even more tedious to interact with

>>713322717 (OP)
Kept playing on community servers for a while but most of those have died out by now.

>>713322717 (OP)
2007 Demofloyd here, people give MyM too much flak considering the updates years before it were absolute dogshit, Invasion was dogshit and scrapped into irrelevance, EotL was also memory holed and Gun Mettle was just another way to milk this dying game. The general consensus was that Love and War was decent to most people.

>>713324713
It's a well-made mod but it's creators are a bunch of silicone valley faggots and bronies.

>>713331494
None of those other updates went out of their way to make Valve servers worse to play. MyM deserves every last bit of hate it gets.

>>713331089
your initial statement is wrong as are your conclusions
you suck, kill yourself

>>713322717 (OP)
I dropped it after migrating to private servers for a bit, quickplay was the most optimal way to play the game and casual made it unnecessarily slow

>>713328454
I feel like the only one that actually liked its release version.

>>713322717 (OP)
Aside from some incredibly stupid nerfs/changes it was still very much playable until the bot scourge a few years back, it's still alright to play now aside from trannoids ERPing in the chat of every other server now, but of course you can just mute them

I'm just playing TF2 Classic from time to time. Going back to vanilla after human-compatible FOVs and FPS caps is just unbearable. VIP maps are a welcome addition too.

>>713332253
Mobster VIP is more fun, it took the right idea from ctf_crasher by making the escort an intentionally strong class that you'd want to play as, Civilian is too weak

>>713331954
cope
the game would be a lot more boring and spammy if heavy was even tankier
other combat classes have cool interactions fighting each other, dodging actually does something
meanwhile heavy? your combat consists of getting spammed while doing chip damage because of how strong and easy the minigun is to use
not fun for them, not fun for you

>>713331932
But they were dogshit either way, like the calm before the storm, funilly enough two of those were "community" updates.

>>713322717 (OP)
I still play it
TF2 feels like a time chamber when you play it

i quit after they added weapon skins