Thread 713335621

>RE7 - absolute dogshit
>RE8 - absolute gold
Is third person really the answer? Is it the action horror instead of survival horror? Is it the setting? Why is 8 so much better?

RE7 is cinematicslop "horror-house ride" created for streamer reactions, it's an insult to videogames and gamers
Sadly RE9 will be the same shit

>>713335621 (OP)
RE8 is dogshit

>>713335621 (OP)
>RE8 good because it has my big chungus mommy!
Get real, kiddo.

>>713335621 (OP)
I have never seen anyone saying RE7 is worse than 8
>muh dommy mommy
People also complained she was in it long enough

>>713336002
>RE7 is cinematicslop "horror-house ride"
That's why I hated it
>>713336128
Elaina was hot but I don't care for the 11 ft tall monster

>>713335621 (OP)
RE7 was good, especially in VR. It's different but good. RE8 is just 1/3rd of a game with the rest being filler trash.

The big thing about RE7 is that it's not as replayable as the other games in the series, you do a run on Hardcore and that's pretty much it, the first hour is too on rails too.

>>713336002
You know why it is called Resident Evil, do you?
Fucking retard.

>>713335621 (OP)
I didn’t care for either.

>>713335621 (OP)
>my slop is better than your slop

>>713336582
Kys dumbass ESLjeet

>>713336582
The series is called biohazard, moron.

Excella > Alcina. I will DIE on this hill.

>>713336582
They changed the Japanese title(Biohazard) in The west.

>>713336696
>>713336709
>>713336773
God, you guys are retarded.
My point is, that the very first game was a horror house game.

>>713336914
>ESL reading comprehension

>>713336967
>I am just an underaged idiot

>>713336914
Nobody here has played RE1. It came out before we were alive.

>>713336914
>>713337141
Rajesh, this is embarrassing
You didn't even understand what the first post said, you could only comprehend the word "house"

>>713335621 (OP)
low IQ poster

>>713337373
we dont sign our posts here

>>713337373
>low IQ poster

>>713335621 (OP)
yeh

>>713336914
>You know why it is called Resident Evil, do you?
>You know why it is called Resident Evil, do you?
>You know why it is called Resident Evil, do you?

>>713335621 (OP)
RE8 is fun until Chris shows up later into the game.

>>713335621 (OP)
>RE2 REMAKE - absolute dogshit
>RE3 REMAKE - absolute dogshit
>RE4 REMAKE - absolute dogshit
>RE5 - absolute dogshit
>RE6 - absolute dogshit
>RE7 - absolute dogshit
>RE8 - absolute dogshit
when does this series get good?"

>>713340685
REkeks? Our response?

Bruh I just watched a story explained review of shadows of rose because I was on the fence to buy Village, what the fuck was that

Le heckin mommy thicc grannytranny!! Im cooooming!! Thanks for the gold kind stranger!

>>713335621 (OP)
No, of the nu-Resident evil games it goes:
RE4 > RE2 > RE7 > Village > RE3

>>713341176
>getting yourself spoiled before deciding to buy the game
Lmao dude the fuck youre doing?

>>713335621 (OP)
First person is objectively the best perspective for literally any game. This is an indisputable fact.

>>713335621 (OP)
The first half of RE7 was the closest this franchise ever got to being an actual horror game.

The mold zombies were boring, the boat was shit and the mine was even worse.

>>713340685
>>713340940
Soon™

>>713342276
more like getting informed, I'm not wasting money on a shit game

>>713342129
is that the shitty series that got canned?

>>713342372
am I crazy to think this game doesn't look next gen at all? could easily be released in last gen platforms

>>713342673
kek yeah, it was hilariously bad like some fan-made shit

>>713342920
If they're still using REngine then it's just going to look like every other modern remake in the series thus far

>>713335621 (OP)
RE7 mogs RE8

>>713337141
Resident evil remake has been on steam since 2015, your telling me no one new played it?

>>713340685
According to re purists, the only games worth playing are the the first 3 games and the dreamcast version of code veronica.

>>713340685
>not mentioning the worst RE game by far after RE6... RE4
good morning saar

Jake+the mom parts of 7 are great, probably better than anything in 8, but 8 is more well rounded cause after you beat the mother in 7 its downhill for another 3-4 hours.

>>713343837
yep

>>713335621 (OP)
I liked 8 more than 7, but 8 was only really pretty good for the castle. Then it got boring and gimmicky like 7.

7 is amazing, play through at least once a year

will never play 8 again, holy hell only one single part of the game spooked me, but hey good to see nicolas cage get work.

>>713335621 (OP)
>RE8 - absolute gold
On what fucking planet?

>>713335621 (OP)
RE7 is way way way way better than RE8 if you actually care about them as video games and not eye candy.
RE8's feedback sucks, the map design sucks, the inventory system sucks, most of the puzzles suck, etc.

>>713335621 (OP)
I kinda love mommy dimmi.

>>713348931
7 is the worst RE game by a a huge margin.

>>713349085
>RE7 is way way way way better than RE8 if you actually care about them as video games and not eye candy.
>if you actually care about them as video games
7 is on rail cinematic garbage and barely even a video game. The gunplay, exploration and especially encounter design are all terrible. It's laughable that anyone would pretend 7 is a better video game than 8.
>the inventory system sucks
8's isn't anything special but it's infinitely better than 7's.

>>713349228
Leagues above 5, and 6. Only better ones are 1,2,3, and 4.

>>713349496
The truth right here.

>>713349496
Nope. 5 and 6 are pretty bad, but they're kind of fun as dumb action games. 7 is terrible across the board. No, it does not have atmosphere.

Grace is cute, CUTE!

>>713349572
I'll take my western 70s/80s horror movie atmosphere, thank you

>>713349661
And I'll take an actual video game instead of terrible mechanics across the board and a bad imitation of already subpar movies.

>>713349496
4 is equally bad as 8
5 shits all over both unless you're a redditor journalist or zoomer whose first RE was 4

I don't particularly like 7 or 8 and think they're both unremarkable RE games and only the first half of 7 is good survival horror.

RE9 looks more promising than both.

>>713349798
>the first half of 7 is good survival horror.
RE1-3 are survival horror. 7 is shitty hide and seek.
>RE9 looks more promising than both.
9 looks exactly the same as 7.

>>713335621 (OP)
The last arguably good RE was Revelaitons 1

7 had a better atmosphere and the Bakers were cool. The first time I played it was in VR so it was actually scary. The molded were bad and generic and the game gets much worse at the ship onwards but I liked RE7 a lot more than Villiage in the first half.

>>713349839
>RE1-3 are survival horror

Well I hope RE9 is more like those. It does say its survival horror but then the director says some dumb shit like "-BUT" so you know its probably gonna turn into fucking action cinematic slop.

>>713349883
Thought it was a pale imitation of classic RE.

>>713349839
>7 is shitty hide and seek.
For the first 45 minutes, and even then if you play on Madhouse the Mia fight is the hardest fight in the game due to the near perfect performance it calls for.

>>713349921
>It does say its survival horror
By a director who thinks 7 is survival horror. His idea of survival horror is nonstop linear scripted shit with minimal player control, and unkillable monster chasing you, and some jump scares. He can't make good games.
>action cinematic slop.
7 and large parts of 8 are the worst kind of cinematic trash.

>>713349986
>For the first 45 minutes
You don't find a single regular, killable enemy until almost 3 hours in. That's like a third of the game that you just spend in entirely linear setpiece segments or hiding from Jack.

>>713349980
And in 2012 that was a godsend. Not that anon and I love Rev1, but it was very much a product of its time. God bless it for paving the way for 7 and RE2make all the same.

>>713350062
Always viewed the game as a cheap spin off, couldn't help it. Just feels like a 7/10 RE game.

>>713350056
>3 hours in
...how slow at video games are you? It should barely take an hour to get to the basement if you're taking the scenery in, and there's definitely conventional enemies down there. Did you just AFK for an hour and a half while hiding from Jack or something? Also, THE MIA FIGHT.

I liked RE7 and RE8, I don't see them being that bad of an entry for the series. Doesn't really detract from the old styles/games that you can still choose to play, they're not going anywhere!

>>713350278
Go look up any long play video of the game that's not a speedrun or a guide or something. The first actual molded enemy encounter will be between 2 and 3 hours into the game.

Do we think molded will be part of RE9?

I hope its a new virus/disease.

>>713350328
>Doesn't really detract from the old styles/games that you can still choose to play, they're not going anywhere!
Except for the fact that new games going forward will be the objectively terrible style of game that 7 and 8 are.

>>713335621 (OP)
The answer

>>713335621 (OP)
I'm playing 7 rn and it's like ~5/10 objectively. Are the DLCs better?

>>713350346
https://youtu.be/MCEW8Z7HR9c?si=wV7zp6H6Wwkf2R87
First result on Youtube for "re7 longplay" and they're at the basement at about 1:33, and I personally haven't played the game since 2017 so I don't recall if molded kick in earlier than that but the basement is definitely a combat gauntlet.
>3 hours
The whole playthrough is 6 and they're wandering around like a tourist.

>>713350845
I know you're an illiterate retard, but
>>713350346
>or a guide
That video is explicitly a deathless 100% guide. Try again.
>The whole playthrough is 6
All you've done here is show that the first 25% of the game is on rails hide and seek. That makes it garbage. Objectively.

>>713335621 (OP)
>>RE7 - coom
>>RE8 - soon

>>713335621 (OP)
RE7 is too up it's own ass in wanting to be a western horror movie (it really wants to be the evil dead remake)
RE8 is a videogame-ass videogame first and foremost and isn't ashamed aobut it.

>>713350701
Doesn't look like it. One of them is you playing a character punching BOWs in the face. Fucking ridiculous.

RE7 has a lot of DLC.

>>713350964
No, I'm not trying again. There's an achievement for beating the game in under 4 hours. I hate speedrunning and I managed to get it. That video is taking its time.

Now, is this true for initial playthroughs? No, I probably spent 10+ on my first one, just like how everyone spends 20+ on their first RE4 playthough. Every RE takes way longer when it's fresh, but almost no one judges RE games based on fresh playthroughs.

>>713351282
>No, I'm not trying again.
Then there's nothing to argue. I said to find a longplay that wasn't a guide, you said okay and then showed one that was explicitly a guide. Now you're mad that I pointed out you didn't do what you said you can do.
>Now, is this true for initial playthroughs?
Which is exactly what we're talking about. On an initial playthrough the first actual enemy you fight is almost 3 hours into the game.
>but almost no one judges RE games based on fresh playthroughs.
Wrong. Initial playthrough is the single most important playtrhough, and then repeat playthroughs all taken together are arguably as important as the initial playthrough. 7 is literally the worst game in the series for repeat playthroughs as it's designed around linear, cinematic scripted setpieces instead of being a replayable game. About a third of the game is the completely on rails intro, and then the last third of the game is the completely on rails Mia section/ending shooting gallery in the mines. Even if you want to pretend the middle section is good (it's not), then you still have a game where only a small fraction of it is even remotely geared towards multiple playthroughs. That's fucking terrible for an RE game, and a big part of why 7 is trash for retards.

>>713351516
The first actual enemy you fight is Mia, whether you like it or not. It could take 3 hours to get to a molded, but that's strictly on the merit of being very afraid of Jack's AI. The hide and seek part isn't actually that long - you only have to explore a handful of rooms - but it's very nerve wracking the first time you do it since someone's on your ass.

>>713351924
>The first actual enemy you fight is Mia, whether you like it or not.
>>713350346
>The first actual molded enemy encounter
Why do you keep moving the goalposts? I know you're an idiot since you're defending 7, but this is pathetic.

>>713352179
Because your previous post said "the first actual enemy you fight". I gathered that you were talking about molded, though I don't know why the Mia fight doesn't count but whatever. Anyways, my point is it shouldn't take 3 fucking hours to see a molded and if it is, that's because the game is functioning as a horror game and keeping you too anxious to move faster. At that point, it's succeeding at something else entirely. Or you can crash through it and be fighting molded less than an hour in.

>>713335621 (OP)
But the third person was dogshit in Village? I played it once and went back to first person because the game was not designed around third.
>aiming felt worse because Ethan would be shooting at where the gun wasn't pointed
>Ethan would float on ladders and stick out of cabinets in third person
>all the cinematics are in first person anyway so every few minutes you're forced back into that perspective

>>713352501
>though I don't know why the Mia fight doesn't count but whatever
Because Mia is not a regular enemy. She isn't a molded. She's a scripted setpiece encounter, and my entire argument is that RE7 is a shit game and a shit RE game especially because it prioritizes scripted setpieces and cinematic scares over being an actual fucking video game.

>my point is it shouldn't take 3 fucking hours to see a molded
Then find an initial playthrough video and show someone reaching a molded before the 2 and a half hour mark or stop replying. I'm not going to keep arguing with someone who does nothing but move goalposts.

>that's because the game is functioning as a horror game
It's failing as an actual video games and especially a Resident Evil game. It's nothing like any of the previous games which would be fine if it was actually fun, but it's not. Only the most retarded of zoomers pretend that isn't a super atmospheric scary and tense game. It's just fucking boring and predictable.

>>713352797
Nah, you just have a weird vendetta against a game that can only do everything wrong and nothing right. The first actual fight doesn't count, slowing down because you're scared doesn't count, and playing well and getting to encounters quickly doesn't count. Not much to do with that. The intro has its problems but they aren't what you're making it out to be.

>>713353247
Nah, I just don't like objectively shit games that prioritize railroading the player for cinematic experiences over everything else, especially when the cinematic experience is a shit one doing nothing more than bad ripoffs of bad movies.

8 is dogshit slop like 7 for the exact same reasons, shit eater.

>>713350614
Doing it for her.

>>713335621 (OP)
Cute girls is always the answer.

>>713336128
Nah, it's because of my doll wife.

>>713342920
Next gen ceased to mean anything in the late 2010s.

>>713335621 (OP)
they're both dogshit

RE8 has the same problems 7 did; half of the game is horrible after a second playthrough (Beneviento/Reservoir/Chris)

>>713335621 (OP)
If it wasn't for the hag RE8 would have been a total bomb

RE7 is a flawless game. I'm not saying it's a perfect game or even the best RE game, but it just did everything right from start to finish. An arguments against the game can boil down to "I wish things were different". You can't exactly point at something in that game and say it's objectively bad.
RE8 was okay but bordered too much on the territory where RE starts to get retarded,

>>713354041
I think 8 has it worse because it's only a half step towards being more of a video game with none of the focus that 7 had as a cinematic horror thing. 8 has some good parts like the castle, factory and Miranda fight, but on the whole it feels like a very uneven Frankenstein of ideas. For all of 7's faults, that game at least knows what it is.

>>713354354
>RE7 is a flawless game. I'm not saying it's a perfect game or even the best RE game, but it just did everything right from start to finish. An arguments against the game can boil down to "I wish things were different". You can't exactly point at something in that game and say it's objectively bad.
Great bait. I actually believed you were a retarded zoomer who knows nothing about what makes a good video game and thinks streamerbait jumpscares make something a great experience.

>>713335621 (OP)
First Half 7&8 > Dog shit > Back Half 7&8

>>713335621 (OP)
you have it backwards. Village was shit. Every second of that game is cringe.

>>713354415
>factory
Wat?

>>713354750
OK p*do

>>713354642
I like the ship in 7 and the factory in 8. Both are as close to multi-floor exploration as these games get. 8 also has the castle but you can really break that one down into a long list of linear setpieces that are just REALLY well framed.

>>713354774
Heisenberg's place. Dimitrescu has the castle, Beneviento has the dollhouse, Moreau has the swamp, and the fourth quadrant?

>>713354642
First quarter of 8 > dogshit > the rest of 8 and all of 7

how do u play the game more than once when its so scary the first time every time

>>713335621 (OP)
I know its bait, but RE7 is 10/10 game, while re8 - 6/10

>>713355006
One, you know what you're doing. Two, post-game unlocks that make the scary things a lot less scary.

>>713355110
>but RE7 is 10/10 game
Yeah, that is bait. RE7 is barely a game at all.

>>713354858
I don't get the factory, but I really don't get liking the ship. If you won't give me the Industrial settings are bad, can we at least the comfy settings are much better?

>>713355218
>settings
For the factory, sure. I also really like Revelations so I think the ship is somewhat cozy. I think both are better actual levels than most of the rest of their respective games, though with 7 that's not an especially high bar.

>>713355157
>>713335621 (OP)

Show me another game close to RE7 where main location feels so real (not because graphic, but design)

>>713355535
>show me another game where the location has (this completely subjective quality I assign to it that there's literally no way to argue against how I view because I can just say no, and that doesn't have anything to do with gameplay)
Okay retard.

>>713355535
>the Baker house
>real
Show me a southern house like the Baker house that has a basement even remotely resembling it. It's not a real feeling house, it's a fucking video game level laid out like a video game level. You're just a retarded zoomer who thinks jumpscares are cool.

>>713355535
zoomllenials didn't like this one

>>713342335
>The first half of RE7 was the closest this franchise ever got to being an actual horror game.
If your idea of a good horror game is basically a shitty dark ride that covers 4-5 shitty 2000s horror remakes, with one enemy type for the whole game, then I am forced to call you a fucking retard.

>>713355006
By not being a pussy

xD
CHAINSAW FIGHT xD xD
0 stakes, because we can submit our main character to countless episodes of body horror, but it's fine because he's a mold man. Tons of random body horror, 0 stakes! Fucking retarded.

>>713354750
would say the best parts are the castle and the mines (basically re labs)
the gimmick horror level is that for npcs
both games are usually garbage for replays with tons of unskippable cutscenes

>>713355006
Horror games are just puzzle games with some set dressing. Unsurprisingly my least favorite aspects of RE7 are the constant unskippable cutscenes and multiple instances of just waiting around for the next event to trigger so I can progress. Absolutely kills replayability.

8 is a shitty version of 4. They literally have all the aspects of 4 but failed at ever single one of them. I sure love the long ass opening that even with skips takes forever, I sure love the atrocious audio design where all the weapons sound like plastic toys, I love enemies not reacting to getting shot 90% of the time, I love the 20 min unskippable walking section that is house beneviento, I love that new weapons are an immediate upgrade over the previous ones making the previous ones fucking useless, I sure love playing a game with literally 0 gameplay mechanics. The melee in 4 is simple but it also adds a lot of fun to the gameplay. 8's "gameplay" is shooting enemies, which don't react to getting shot, with weapons that have no feedback and all have awful audio.

>>713335621 (OP)
>dumbed down RE4 better than 7
No.

>>713354453
okay, name an objective flaw.

>>713356350
i think unironically it was designed as such in that
good game and horror game is like at the opposite ends of a slider
>oh it's so scwhay when your gun does nothing and seems to not work at all
>how about rng crits yea that's crazy, you barely survived that

>>713356402
Actually, yes.

Re8 is such a blatant retreading of re4 it's almost insulting. Also, no amount of memes will ever give ethan a personality

>>713356607
It focuses on cinematic scares based on taking player control away, or putting an enemy right in front of or right behind you (which results in awful combat encounters) over being a video game that you actually play.

>>713355603
>>713355745
interiors and the way the objects are placed are made in such a way that I believe in them. I don't believe in the locations of re8 and re4r because all I see in them is lazy ctrl c + ctrl v. there is no other games like re7, absolutely immersive horror game.

Both are bad.
The first quarter or third of RE7 was pretty decent, more because of the scenario, and then it goes full retard.
RE8 is terrible the entire way through. It's just mindless theme park bullshit with weightless shit combat and zero scares. Ethan is the worst fucking protagonist in it too.

>>713335621 (OP)
RE8 was worse than 7 though. At least 7 had an identity

>>713356981
>interiors and the way the objects are placed are made in such a way that I believe in them.
You didn't answer the question. Show me a house that has anything even resembling the basement of the Baker house. It doesn't feel real at all. You being an idiot and thinking it's cool doesn't mean it feels real. RE4R isn't copy paste at all. You're using words wrong because you're angry and stupid and want to pretend you've said something worthwhile about game design.

>>713357182
>RE4R isn't copy paste at all
I belive u, brown

>>713357412
There are genuinely too many layers of stupidity in your post to process. This would be like me circling all the bags you can kick in the Jack fight and saying 7 is a copy paste game. Why do retarded third worlders who know less than nothing about game design pretend to be experts and then highlight how dumb they are with collages or explanation images that don't actually support their ideas? If you want to prove RE4R is copy paste, then show all the houses that are laid out the same and dotted around the map, or show how the areas leading into each other are all structured the game.

>>713357412
what exactly is the problem here

>>713357412
Damn, RE7 fucking sucks.

>>713358260
He thinks thats what reusing assets means

>>713335621 (OP)
First Person saved Resident Evil. Third Person mode is for trannies who want to bastardize the game into something more familiar, ie. Something it's not.

>>713358476
>Something it's not.
Yeah, RE has never been third person.

>>713358585
>Just ignore the way the game was designed chud (Gods of Duty Zombiez) I make my own rules!!!!!!!!

>>713358782
>wojak poster
These are the "people" who think 7 is good.

>>713359005
Please 7 is FEAR for downies

8 is Halo K1no Evolved