Thread 713337079

Did this game really need a sequel? No interesting story, no interesting gameplay mechanics, unnecessarily detailed lore dump with mostly meaningless word salad, cringe writing (thanks to ending the careers of localizers he worked with). So what even is redeemable about this "game"? Is Kojima doing this just because first one got bad reception and his ego got hurt, now he'll show us?

>>713337079 (OP)
>No interesting story, no interesting gameplay mechanics
wrong.

I like when retards come late to the party with shit opinions

to raise money to make the game he actually wants to make next, and keep his name fresh in peoples minds
I'm not exactly sure how the sequel will raise the stakes, unless it leans heavier into logistic automation but that seems unlikely and kinda pointless. God I hope it doesn't try to expand on the multiplayer stuff

>>713337276
>to raise money to make the game he actually wants to make next
So Kojima does that
By hiring A list Celebs in his game and spending a lot of money?

>>713337443
why, what would you do

>>713337172
>interesting gameplay mechanics
>you run around delivering crates in an empty open world
lmao

>>713337657
name 3 other games where you do that

>>713337079 (OP)
This post reads like someone who watched the game on youtube, it makes more sense if you actually play it.

>>713337079 (OP)
It's being made so we can build up South America's network.

>>713337704
>Noone has made the same retarded gameplay
>Must be kino then
Lmao go deliver your pizza

>>713338980
i will.

>>713337704
ETS1, ETS2, ATS

>>713337079 (OP)
You can now skip the BT encounters, that alone could make the game playable

>>713337704
like every open world game? delivery quests are pretty common lol
in GTA you have to deliver shit while shooting niggers and running from the cops (fun)
in snooze stranding you press a button to balance yourself while pushing the thumbstick forward (boring)

For as much shit vehicles get in this game, thank Kojima for not putting this mechanic in.

>>713337079 (OP)
no, it didn't

kojima should make movies

>>713340690
tell him >>713338980, he thinks it's a retarded thing to include in a game

>>713337079 (OP)
>Did this game really need a sequel? No
Yes. Snoy cucked the game and cut out a ton of the good stuff, including the ending and the more grimdark mood.

>interesting story, no interesting gameplay mechanics,
It has BOTH, in spades.
Easily BTFO any Piss5 game from the past 5 years in terms of art, audio, story and gameplay.

Porter bros just keep on keeping on, winning without even moving a finger.

>>713342467
but i agree. walking around and doing nothing is retarded

>>713337079 (OP)
>Did the game really need a sequel?
Not really. As a stand alone game, theres a lot to digest. Sam finally gets cured of his ailments and condition, and instead becomes a hermit for Lou, and everyone's character arcs are resolved, while still leaving just enough open for interpretation.
You could argue that every sequel is unnecessary if its not reasonably a part of a purposefully made series, but at that point, you could consider it a part 2 and get into semantics and weeds.
Since we know that the creator has a history of disliking unnecessary sequels unless it can thoughtfully expand upon the original work presented, its completely justifiable and arguable that a sequel for Death Stranding will have purpose and a reason to exist.
>>713337276
>to raise money to make the game he actually wants to make next
This could easily be argued for the first game, since it has so many product placements and promotional tie-ins, but there are zero so far in any of the material presented for DS2.

>>713343194
>t. obsessed tendienigger buzzworder

>>713337079 (OP)
Filtered

2019
>It's not a walking simulator! Kojima-san wouldn't do that.
>Okay it's a walking simulator. And that's a good thing. Americans are great fans of first-person shooters and Death Stranding isn't one, it flies higher.
2025
>Prease buy my shooting game
Early reviews in
>I made it bad on purpose

>>713344745
t. iPhone posting Pajeet with no arguments.

Fetch quest: bad
Fetch quest (kojima): good

>>713343194
The grimdark world of diehard man

>>713337079 (OP)
Kojimbo-hack cult has to have him make 4-5 more games before they turn on him. He's kinda like Japanese Todd Howard
>Inb4 Todd is only likes ironically because he lies so much
Among "passionate" gamers who pay attention, outside of them he's a literal walking marketing. Indiana Jones, made by todd howard etc.

>>713337172
>Something something dooms…something something BTs (which are different from BB)…something something void out…something something porter…something something “The Beach”…

What great and not totally up its own ass storytelling.

I watched you faggots bitch endlessly about FFXIII having a bunch of bullshit made up terms like L’cie, Fal’cie, Cieth, etc., and then turn around and give this a pass for doing far worse in my opinion because it’s ok when La Creatividad does it.

>>713337079 (OP)
mgsv is kojimas last good game

Any mods I should install on my first playthrough?

>>713337079 (OP)
My only interest in a sequel is more post-apoc deliveryman simulator. The story could be completely absent and I wouldn't give a shit
It was drawn out and belaboured in the first game as well as being wrapped up well enough, I don't care about any loose threads, in fact I don't remember there even being any

>>713346154
The Indiana Jones game was also really good thoebeit and captured the heart and soul of the original trilogy + the show

50 minute gameplay leaked on youtube, it's the same as DS1 but more sandy

>>713348714
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1lhkzy6/death_stranding_2_first_hour_of_gameplay_leaked/

>>713346505
All of the lingo in Death Stranding is coherent, is derived from real English words and provides intrigue into the world. FF13 falters because it drops these words completely without context and you have to go out of your way to read the data logs to even scratch the surface of the narrative. The logs in DS mainly serve to elaborate on the concepts and backgrounds of the characters but the story can still be enjoyed and understood without doing so.

>>713341627
can you imagine, death stranding and snowrunner collab

>>713349315
It’s the opposite. Death Stranding front loads it with all this stuff and just expects you to know what it is and why it is. I somehow had no issue following FFXIII (not saying it’s good, just that I could follow it), whereas I just found myself actually getting annoyed at all this crap in DS, to the point where I found myself not caring about anything going on, and I dropped it because I wasn’t engaged.

>>713337079 (OP)
>unnecessarily detailed lore dump with mostly meaningless word salad
The worst thing by far about the game. Kojima had a few interesting ideas here and there and some characters were cool but the story and characters are all retarded. Every character just stops and sits there and treats you like a retard having to hyper explain every little detail. Ruins the immersion and is a terrible way to storytell.
Genuinely no clue how people can be into this game, you gotta be either a contrarian or an autist

>>713337079 (OP)
I havent played either one and i think the games are probably best used as sleep aid
Even then, i think what Kojima is doing is worth doing because its exploring a different style of gameplay other than the trillions of other triple A games that just keep doing the same thing over and over again
So iam absolutely happy the suits are throwing money at the madman because i know hes not going to release a generic shooty cawadoody game or some barebones RPG shit

>>713337079 (OP)
>no interesting gameplay mechanics
The game is nothing but interesting mechanics. Sure you can stumble and struggle like a retard to get anything done with basic kit, or you can actually problem solve and plan proper infrastructure to make your job much easier in the long run, giving you more time to relax and just enjoy the atmosphere of the game.

>>713339434
Nobody knows what game you are referencing with that

>>713341627
Instead your shoes explode
>>713343194
Barely beating COD and not showing user scores

>>713337079 (OP)
>thanks to ending the careers of localizers he worked with
Based. Fuck localizers.
I might buy the game now

>>713337079 (OP)
>No interesting story
You say this as Expedition 33 is being shilled for having a great story? Are we serious?

>>713343194
I agree with everything you just said.

>>713337079 (OP)
Kojombos retarded fanbase and Geoff convinced him that the game was good.
its something like when Snyders cult made WB to lose billions.

>>713343194
>terms of art,
true
>audio
lol
>story
gigalol. making up some mysterious bullshit without any explanation is bad writing and not good story
>gameplay.
non existent. Walking around for no reason is not gameplay, its shit

death stranding is for gamers not content consumers

>>713355734
TRUTH NUKE

>>713355450
>Term of art
You dont even know what art is lets not pretend you do
>Story
Im betting you loved expedition 33's story so your criticism can be ignored
>Gameplay
One of the few games with real gameplay. Not just copying ideas of other games and making shittier and shittier versions of it.

>>713356064
the story of death stranding is better than exp33?

>>713337657
Actually you spend 5 hours running around delivering, 10 hours driving bikes, 25 hours driving trucks, and then the rest of the time building and using ziplines.

>>713356190
By miles and miles and miles

>>713337079 (OP)
I find it odd that it would get a sequel too, you'd think that with Kojima getting old and thinking about death already he'd focus on one-off games, by the time O.D. and Physynth come out he'll probably be in retirement age, I don't see where he could fit a DS3, so this one should ideally wrap up every loose end and tie things up neatly so that everyone can move on from DS.

They put so much work slapping shitty AAA fluff onto an idea that was maybe worth a 5 hour long indie game made by 3 developers. Yet they didn't do a thing to make the BT zone shit interesting, just walking through a field of mannequins

>>713347094
The mod that lets you see Norman Reedus' dick when pissing, also the monster energy drink restoration.

>>713356358
Expedition has a well written story, this has nothing. Just because there are lot of things happening on the screen without context, its not a better story.
>b-but diehardman xDDD
kys
also the writing is elementary school tier
stop sucking kojima dick

Replaying DS and while some of the over-explaining is obnoxious near the end, the final delivery still hit hard.

I wish Kojima doesn't fuck it up in 2.