Thread 713340819

AM4 never dies.

775 Never die

>AM4 never dies.
>posts the last AM4 model AMD are releasing before they discontinue the chipset
????

AM6 when?

9600x3d is gonna be real interesting cpu coming out soon. we get to see what games finally scale with cores.

>>713340968
they launched the 5500x3d this month you uninformed clown retard https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/5000-series/amd-ryzen-5-5500x3d.html

It's always the weak who make the most noise. You are inferior. I am superior.

>>713341172
AM4 is still getting shelved no matter what, so OP's post is just wrong.

>>713340968
Guess you really made a clown of yourself anon
Carlos.jpeg

>>713340819 (OP)
>7600x for 190
>5600x3d for 195
ehh unless i really want to stay on am4 there is no reason to get the 7600x which is faster/better

>>713341235
you can buy a prebuilt? so can my grandma.

>>713341387
9600x is around that price too now

i built my first pc a few weeks ago. i had an 9800x3d. when i opened the clamshell casing, the processor dropped to the floor. if it were any other chipset i would have been stuck with a $500 paperweight

>>713341738
Bending PGA pins back is pretty simple. Just don't ever drop a LGA chip on the socket. The socket pins have such tight tolerances its ridiculous to try and realign them.

Still the undisputed KING

>>713340819 (OP)
is the 5700X3D still being produced? it's gotten awfully expensive on aliexpress

>>713342060
>Intcel

>>713342060
still got mine, although i haven't booted up that PC for a while

>>713342160
yeah. its still msrp on amazon germany.

AM4ever
>thanks steve

>>713340819 (OP)
so overpriced its better to buy am5 + r5 7600 now

>>713342160
5500x3d is a failed 5600x3d which is a failed 5700x3d which is a failed 5800x3d
they just had a lot of scraps
it was 2 silicon generations ago, it's long discontinued

>>713342449
Yes thats how binning works

>>713342624
he asked if it's still being made and the answer to that is no

>>713342449
These x3d chips exist because they are the shit bins from the zen 3 based epyc chips which are still being produced.

>>713342883
CCDs are qualified on different clock scaling and leakage, but no CCD is made an X3D SKU unless its perfect for its given SKU.

>>713342060
its time to let go anon

>>713340819 (OP)
I want to get off the AM4 train bros...

But I don't think I can afford to switch out motherboard and ram and cpu and the drives and the case and the whatever the fuck...

>all x3d that , x3d this
>finally upgrade to 5600 after a decade with ancient fx 6300

I just got suckered into buying a 5800xt a couple months ago. Should I try and pawn it off for a 5500x3d?

>>713343615
i'm also using a 5600

>>713343615
This, but from athlon x4 to 5600x.
Also if you're not on fullhd gpu is more important anyway.

I built a budget PC with AM4 and 5060 ti 16gb and I will never upgrade or change.

>>713343564
>and the drives and the case
the fuck are you talking about? ram, cpu, mb. you can even keep psu unless you also gonna upgrade gpu.

>>713343615
you are fine dude 5600 is still usable.

>>713340819 (OP)
I'm currently on i5-6500 how much better would the experience be if I upgraded to Ryzen 2200? It's the only one i could afford

>>713344080
NOOOOOOOO
I HAVE TO BUY A NEW HOUSE IF I'M GOING TO SWITCH GENS, YOU DON'T GET IT
I HAVE TO W88888888888888

>>713344141
you won't see a bump in performance. don't get anything lower than ryzen 5600 it's not worth it.

>>713344001
what CPU? very based

Can't wait for zen6. 12 core ccx and over 6ghz clocks.

>>713344141
Save up longer.

>>713344439
5800X, I'm poor and I only use it for work and emulation.

i have a 5800x3d and a 4080, i feel like i don't have to upgrade for at least another 5 years or more. the most demanding games i'll play will probably be switch 2 emulated maybe

7800X3D owners statistically have the fattest, girthiest cocks

>>713344565
Can confirm.
t. 7800X3D owner

>>713344380
>>713344482
>ryzen 5600
>more than double the price of 2200 in my country
FUCK! I hope it's at least gonna work on the motherboard for 2200 that I found and plan to buy. I'm already pinching my pennies.

>>713344468
Totally new IOD structure, new uncore, new core arch, probably a 10 percent IPC uplift, on a newer process variant. Should be breddy fuggin cool
Since Su has been at the helm they've been trying to be aggressive with their release cadence. Zen enterprise and rumored desktop chips are going to be N2. Zen 7 coming late 2027 or early 2028 will be bleeding edge N1.4 from TSMC. Both are now multichannel GAA instead of FinFET. I can't even imagine how efficient these little bastards will be.

Ryzen 5 5600x
Win 7
GTX 1660 Ventus
16 GB Ram

all you need

>>713344667
It's the same socket, it will work on the same MB but you might need to update bios.

>>713344719
Can I emulate Armored Core For Answer with that?

>>713344802
Dunno, but honesly, it should

>>713344718
10800x3d (or whatever they call it) is going to be a gaming beast I think. It is the clockspeed that has me excited namely because of a number of old games I play which have issues scaling up framerates due to lmao only runs on 2 threads and the like so the only real way is brute force.

>>713340819 (OP)
I got this cpu to keep my rig alive but I've fucked up. My system can't detect the GPU fan speed and I guess it's the mobo fault

>>713344719
>Ryzen 3 1200
>Windows 8.1
>GTX 960
>4 GB Ram
all I need

>>713344971
Try bios update.

>>713344498
I have a ryzen 5 5600 and a 6650xt, and i'm just not going to upgrade.

I have been spending the past six months contemplating whether to upgrade to a 5700X from my 2600 and the reminders that a few months before I started looking, the 5700X3D costed less than what the 5700X costs now is depressing.

>>713342060
your phone has a more powerful processor
let it die

aren't 57/800x3d kinda toasty because all that cache is slapped on top of the usual cpu bit

Have a 5900X paired with 7900 XTX. Still runs everything I want at 60+fps in 4k.

No need to upgrade for a while.

>>713345237
yes, a bit, and not even all games benefit from the extra cache

I've had a 3700x for the last 6 years, talk me out of upgrading.

>>713345237
Thermal density is slightly higher, vcore has to be slightly lower, which is why the max clocks are slightly lower than the normal SKUs

>>713345375
It shits the bed in CPU-heavy games like KCD. I used to have it myself but upgraded to 7800X3D.

>>713345375
Why upgrade if you're fine with performance, which seems so.

>>713344719
Very comfy system anon. I do find these budget builds more interesting than top tier stuff.

>>713340819 (OP)
It can't die, not in this economy.

>>713345640
Not that guy, but same.

>>713345375
Same, I have a 3700x but feel like consooming AM5 parts. I soon realize that my AM4 build is plenty fast enough.

>5600 is still a beast
>DDR5 is still expensive
>there is zero innovation in the motherboard chipset market right now
No reason to upgrade to AM5.

>buy ryzen 1700 day one
>years pass, I need more performance
>get a cheap 3900x from ebay
>use that for a while but need MOAR
>buy a 5800x3d and sell the 3900x
>all using the same motherboard
The value to me as a customer from AM4 has been insane. Hell my motherboard even has AM3+ mounting holes so initially I slapped a silver arrow (pic related) onto that 1700 as I had it from my previous system, though I did upgrade to a liquid freezer II for the 5800x3d because I wanted an AIO and the price was right.

>>713343615
$75 usd Aliexpress 5600 are insane value.

>AM6 is coming
>I'm still sticking to AM4 till the end of time

>>713345375
I upgraded from 3700x to 5700 and didn't noticed a massive improvement, especially on games.
I did eventually upgraded to AM5 and 7900x but mostly because I needed faster ram speeds for compressing files and video encoding.

>>713345887
X670E is so expensive that board manufacturers are making premium B650E products instead.

>>713345007
>>713344719
at this point there's not much reason to stick around on win7/8 since the games that don't work on those OS'es also don't work on linux. If you're just gaming that is.

yeah no thanks think I'll stick with my Ultra 9 285K

>>713346215
>AM6 is coming
Say fucking sike right now, I went with AM5 and a 7800x3d instead of getting slightly better gpu because I expected AMD to support it at least half as long as they were on AM4.
Please tell me you are merely jesting.

>>713346725
he's taking the piss, you will be able to buy am5 CPUs for your grandchildren.

>>713346010
AM4 is the 1080ti of motherboards.

They want me to use Windows 11
They want me to play Fortnite
They want me to upgrade to a 5090 with RGB
They want me to upgrade to "gaming X3D CPUs"
They want me to fall for "AI" advertising
They want me to think fake frames are good
They want me to pay for fake frames
They want me to play Call of Duty Warzone
They want me to think i "need" more than 1080 and 1440p
They HATE that i'm using linux
They HATE that i'm happy with Diablo 2 and DOOM WADS
They HATE that i don't pay forever to own nothing on spotify and netflix
They HATE that i torrent and/or buy DRM free games
They HATE that i don't have a google account
They HATE that my mouse doesn't have drivers
They HATE that my keyboard doesn't have RGB
They HATE that i'm just not going to upgrade for the E*den R*ng Nightreign.

>>713346559
>since the games that don't work on those OS'es also don't work on linux.
I don't get your point

>>713346989
nobody gives a fuck about you dude

>>713340819 (OP)
>bought 5800x3d years ago
>am4 still getting support
>they're all worse cpu's
>can't upgrade further
What's the point?

>>713346989
>using deprecated neofetch instead of fastfetch

don't want to take out my mobo since it's still working fine but I need to get a new case and I'm figuring out it'll be less a hassle to change it as well instead of swapping it later on

>>713347181
the point is that there is no reason to updoot

>>713345029
There are no updates. It's a Prime b450m or something like that. Last update was a year ago

>>713347263
Why do you need a new case? That and storage have been the only constants for my PC over the past 15 years.

>>713347347
>or something like that
get a console

>>713345375
Changed my 3700x to 5700x3d and 2080ti to 3080ti, it was worth it. I now have stable performance in Wilds at 2k.

>>713346989
>Less Perfect DOS VGA 12
kek I used to use that font too, there's also one called More Perfect iirc

>>713347573
>I upgrade my computer to play shit games

>>713347443
I want to replace my CPU cooler and feel like getting a AIO with a 240mm radiator instead of 120 which is my current setup and my current case cannot fit it

>>713347753
AIOs are not good

>>713347753
That's fair.

>>713347019
Some of the only games that linux can't run at this point are games that require kernel level anticheat. Those only work on w10/11. Outside of productivity and familiarity there's not a lot of reasons to stick to windows.

Ryzen 5 3600x
GTX 1060 6Gb
16 Gb

You cannot convince me to upgrade

>>713348152
yes there is, not having too all kinds of things that work by default on Windows, also I don't really care about "games" released after 2015 so I don't need 10/11

>a budget cpu is somehow stronger than the ps5 pro even though it released half a decade after
how????

>>713347450
Very insightful

>7800x3D
>7800 XT
>32 GB RAM

I am good really. But if the next Radeon series continues the uptrend i might upgrade early to futureproof myself.

>>713348534
Consoles having good CPUs is the exception not the rule. The PS5 CPU was mediocre slop from last year the moment it was released and now 5 years later it's even worse.
The PS5 Pro is still just a PS5 except that the GPU is better - which isn't worth much with the CPU being the bottleneck. Definitely the most pointless hardware refresh in ages.

>>713348268
Easy. You can't play Minecraft with RTX on unless you upgrade.

>>713349050
Doesn't Minecraft use the old DXR Raytracing before it got standardized and wasn't the 1060 the last GTX card the support raytracing? Even then there's tons of custom shaders.

>>713341738
if you think all instances of being a retard are equally likely then it's just as probable you drop the chip into the motherboard's LGA. And considering that you're a giant retard you probably bought a $500 motherboard, and LGA pins are pretty much not fixable.

>>713341738
An actually good pepe for once

>>713346989
you're as much of a cattle as those normies you're seething about, you braindead freetard.

What's so good about Raytracing? How does this personally affect me?

>>713349841
I'm not a freetard, i use plenty of non-free software

>>713350030
If some creative devs (probably indie first) make use of the tech it could lead to novel gameplay. Light mirrors gameplay. Better sound tech. Physics interaction. Basically things that wouldn't have been added to games because the performance would've been too awful but now is negligble. But these all require some technical knowledge. At the moment for games graphics not much because the fps tanks too much. For offline rendering and tooling it speeds up that process and if you're an artist using those tools too.

>>713350030
When your whole life flashes before your eyes, how much of it do you want to not have ray tracing?

I can't keep this thing cool

>>713350030
>What's so good about Raytracing?
It allows for more realistic lighting to be added to games more easily
>How does this personally affect me?
It enables companies to hire the most braindead code monkeys without the slightest artistic ability to slap together a minimum viable product since retarded niggers only see “whoa look at the reflections, take my $80 plus tip right now!”

>>713351148
Get one of those thermaltake air coolers, bro
literally a matter of $20 to $30.

>>713340819 (OP)
Wish I bought one of these

AM4 is the greatest of all time. I remember all I had to do was upgrade my bios and bam, I can use the latest processors. Haven't had to buy a new mobo in years.

Meanwhile... Intel makes a new socket for every new processor.

>>713341172
That sounds like a scam.

>>713346725
Zen 6 will be am5

>>713347181
Hopefully a 5950x3d isn't out of the picture yet

>>713341172
Aren't these ultra poor tier CPUs the CPUs South America and India usually get as exclusives?

>>713351148
What cooler and pc case are you using?

>>713341172
kek what the fuck.
>brazil-only
KEK what the fuck.
I'm really curious about what's their plan here, the normal 5500 costs around 500 BRL (about 90 USD) and that's why it sells so well in hueland, if they're really playing to make its MSRP 200 USD it's going to flop catastrophically hard.

>>713342060
>no hyperthreading
>95w
>pcie 2.0
>ddr3 1333mhz
It's time to let it go anon.

>>713346989
>flexing an unriced stock debian
go to bed unc

Meanwhile I'm a poorfag considering upgrading from my 3200G to a used 3600 after finally getting a GPU because I'm afraid of something getting fucked up while I update the bios and not having the money to buy a new motherboard...

>5700x3d was selling for $180 a short time ago
>Now sells for >$250
Keep puttin' away, 5600x-kun

>>713346989
>1440p
>AMD RX 5000+ series
>64gb of ram
nice meme setup you there goy.

>>713354196
Most boards have bios flashback now, no?

>>713354196
Literally me. Upgrade from 3200G to 3600 after buying used RX470 which miraculously still working even now.

9600x3d better not be microcenter exclusive. i need to jump to am5 already. im still stuck on pcie gen 3 thats how old i am. my nvme is bottlenecked.

I'm still using a 1600, it's been pretty good

>>713353518
you fags aren't even able to afford graphics cards capable of using that cpu to it's full potential, or displays with a high enough refresh to justify it.

>>713346989
What's wrong with X3D? It's been great for everything you can throw at it.

>>713340819 (OP)
I got the 5700x3d last week upgraded from the 3700x
I'm set for the next 10 years

>>713354778
Nothing

>>713354778
pic related

>>713340819 (OP)
my only problem with amd chips is that you need water cooling because it heats ups like a mother fucker

?

>>713354887
Werks on my machine

I have a 5900X
Not bad but I bet it could be better
>Why didn't you buy a 5700X3D
Circumstances, urgency