>"if you kill your enemy you lose" the VN

>>713349875
Narahara's self insert...

>>713349590 (OP)
Cuck game
Cuck philosophy
Cuck audience

>>713349590 (OP)
>le good and le bad are le same

Peace...is the noblest pursuit...!

>>713349590 (OP)
Reminder

>>713352412
>*gets gangraped a few years later*

>>713352412
Peace is overrated. Niggas subjugated to slavery in peaceful times vs Niggas violently opposing their masters. I'd prefer the latter even if it's the less peaceful option.

>>713352412
No, Justice is the noblest pursuit.

>>713349590 (OP)
ichijou is cute

>>713349590 (OP)
start with the Greeks first

>>713352890
No, Greeks were pederasts.

>>713349875
>says the most schizo shit
>does literally fucking nothing
>dies
What the fuck was his problem?
>>713352862
>t. Masamune

>>713353549
4chan the character

>>713349875
fpbp.
thanks chief. time to get out the thread.

>>713349590 (OP)
he kills multiple kids though because thats the cost of using his edgy mecha because ow the edge

If you looked up the answer online, you didn't beat the VN.

>>713349590 (OP)
>t.

>>713353791
TRVTH

>>713353791
If only it was that based. It's your usual libshit retardation.

>>713353791
>muh right
furrtanny retard

This may sound like an exaggeration, but the law of balance and the other philosophical concepts the game discusses are so powerful that to some people they will be life changing. Muramasa is a game with so much weight and deep insight into human life it's hard to describe.

>>713353549
>Sexually frustrated rapist red herring
Muramasa pulls shit like that for no reason, another moment like that is Emishi sisters almost getting sold to slavery, or brat princess almost getting corrected

>>713352474
>uh, it's not evil when I do it!
Just embrace being evil you stupid faggots. Nobody buys into your holier-than-thou bullshit.

>>713353791
>persists on itself

>>713354894
>meet a qt3.14 mechanic girl that likes mecha racing and her dad is an old mecha racing legend
>hard cut to him whoring her out to a bunch of ugly bastard racing execs
why is muramasa like this

>>713354983
Yeah? Evil is whatever I call evil. There's no absolute evil.

>>713352474
Politic-brained niggers are so undersocialized they can't possibly fathom that "revenge bad" philosophies are meant to be applied to thy neighbor rather than despots

>>713349590 (OP)
Just read a fucking book.

I like how that big bald guy like to rape so many people including that little boy.

>>713355290
Thy neighbor can go fuck himself in the ass. Revenge good.

>>713355161
to be honest it was fun to play "guess if this chapter exclusive guest character is going to get raped or not" game

Evil is what I personally consider evil so I will defeat it and I'm also a good person because I say so

>>713355461
And they always end up being raped.

>>713353782
It's not that hard as long as you know the basic sudoku rule of every row amounting to the same sum

>>713355632
So much this.

What are some 'if your enemy hurts you they lose' VN?

>>713355290
"thy neighbor" isn't destroying your country and killing your family

>>713355787
Umineko this blonde girl fights some butler and he uses a shield that damages her while she's attacking him

>>713355698
I liked how all the main girls had rape armor tho
all games should mix rape and wholesome like that

>if you kill yourself you win VN

>>713355290
>nooo you're only supposed to apply this only in these specific contexts that I deem appropriate

>>713355897
>all games should mix rape and wholesome like that
>tfw I can't talk to anyone I know about euphoria or reccomend it because all the scat and /d/ scenes are frontloaded
its such a fucking trip ot a VN, how the fuck did it finesse its way into being a geniunely good love story

>>713356228
Scat is just too weird of a fetish to tolerate just to enjoy a supposedly good VN.

>>713349590 (OP)
I don't get why some retards mald at this claiming the game is some kind of pacifist propaganda Kageaki literally turns himself into genocidal warlord because of his true pacifism ideology
imo to me the game felt like it had a stronger message of "stop being like these psychotic people and don't over complicate and obsess over a philosophy behind a solution, instead of trying to work towards the solution"

>>713356515
>obsess over a philosophy behind a solution
The solution and philosophy cannot be separated. Kageaki turning into a genocidal warlord is his solution informed by his philosophy. Now don't get into stupid semantics fights with me.

>>713356436
you can skip it with ctrl

>>713356735
It can not be separated but it can be over-complicated, and it's the reason why this dumb child ended up being the most hopeful person in the game who could heal the fucked up world. Now don't get into stupid semantics fights with me.

>>713356515
It has no solid message other than vague "human nature causes violence and maybe peace is good". It just explores what causes people to be consumed by ideologies and commit violence for what they believe in and the weight/consequences of killing.

>>713356873
you didn't read it if you skipped the scatman

>an eye for an eye

>>713356987
>the most hopeful person in the game who could heal the fucked up world
She couldn't didn't heal shit lmao

>>713357105
not in a literal sense but in a narrative sense she was conveying hope for the humanity
there's a reason why this random fucker stole the ending

>>713352412
This but unironically.

>>713354783
Damn, I should finish this game

>>713349590 (OP)
Morality is superfluous when there are cute girls to be saved. Or in any other important circumstance really. Even in the VN most characters had a truer, deeper, reason to act a certain way that had nothing to do with whatever drivel they were spouting

>>713357458
>but in a narrative sense she was conveying hope for the humanity
She didn't convey hope at all. It's just the author's way of appealing to peace with "look at this cute innocent child" gimmick. The future of humanity is still pretty fucking grim in the end. Kageaki goes on killing people with no tangible results.

>>713349590 (OP)

>>713357706
He’s the type of character you can imagine becoming a major antagonist in a whole other story and dying by the end of it.

>>713357706
it's a solution to the problem of villager's petty squabble about the bridge, their squabble was the metaphor for their fucked up world and our fucked up world
the author is saying that if more people had her mindset (ironically given by the most murderous warlord in the world), the world would be in a better place
although I do agree that would never happen, as we can't help ourselves but have a petty squabble, just like what we are doing right now

>>713355632
>kills you
Sorry you were evil to me. Had to do it.

>>713358357
Well, it's a naive mindset. Most of the actual conflicts aren't petty squabbles. It's not a petty squabble to fight an existential threat to your land and people. Peace is pretty much a worthless notion anyway. If an entire population is tortured and turned into slaves what's the point of peace

>>713358307
This. People with strong ideology like Kageaki, Ichijou or Kanae may hold power temporarily but they'd never live long, and their twisted view won't be passed down to change the world
We may still fight over stupid shit like what the jews and arabs are doing overseas, but in the end working towards solution triumphs all, and it's the reason why we stopped making sequels for world war, and some of us can peacefully talk about stupid sex video game like this on the internet :)

>>713358246
Whats great about this VN is how this is the one line in the game that made the trans-lator screech in agony

>>713355290
Look, here's one of them now! Let's get him, fellas!

>>713358864
>it's the reason why we stopped making sequels for world war
Cold war was only cold for the first world. So many wars waged in the third world. So many lives lost. But then again that's what the first world wants. Peace in the first world. Endless conflict for the rest.

>>713358804
You're right but being stubborn and reactive sometimes could lead to a worse outcome and losing more of what you treasure.
It's stupid as being stubborn about keeping complete pacifism like the warlord guy that's planning to bring hell to the world for peace.

>>713358901
I’m sad Narahara apparently stopped writing VNs. His sense of humor is batshit insane.

I heard the pirated version of this game changes the voice acting of one of the characters.
Is that fixed somehow or is this censored in some places if you buy it?

>>713359328
He literally only joined the industry to write muramasa. N+ forced him to write a short VN for practice before that.

>>713359060
I didn't say the world is completely healed, there's jews, arabs, and slavs fighting for retarded reasons overseas (that may be caused by first world's interest too)
but there's no denying that there were moments where peace happened for the sake of achieving peace and nothing more, and sometimes it's good to appreciate and acknowledge that instead of being a doomer emo, and gloating on about how world is fucked as if we haven't heard that before

>>713359701
>peace happened for the sake of achieving peace
No, We formed these international bodies to maintain peace in the first world because the first world capital/businesses need stability for growth and profits.

>there's jews, arabs, and slavs fighting for retarded reasons overseas
The first world literally intervenes and destabilizes third world for profits, retard. The spyware military industrial complex of USA is a huge business. You have such a libtard view of post ww history lmao

>>713354983
ah yes killing the mass genocidaing baddie is evil because, killing is bad.

This capeshit lesson is why westerners are feminized.

>>713359328
>>713359569
Would someone really do that? Just get into a field to do one story?

>>713359328
crazy how he literally stopped existing after he wrote Muramasa, he could easily farm fame and fortune by resurfacing on Twitter or something, but nobody knows what happened to him after he left N+

>>713349590 (OP)
isn't the true ending the opposite of that?
it's still really good
so I'm happy it makes queers on /v/ seethe

>>713358246
she loves cocks?

>>713349590 (OP)
the only good thing i live about Chinese novels is that they don’t go around with the pandering of "nooo you can’t kill people!!" they just do it and deal with the shit show

>>713360001
can't you read, I did point out thingies overseas was caused by our country's interest
but evil politicians aside can't you at least appreciate your life for being able to have a stupid argument about war in a fucking eroge thread, I'm not telling you to appreciate your country for leeching off of the third world to let you have that life,
but more so appreciate what you have that's within your control, instead of gloating about something that's outside of your control

>>713358901
Really? Why?

>>713359569
Why? couldn't he have just written a novel instead?

>>713359328
I still don't know if this was meant to be a joke or not.

>>713360658
it had to be eroge to filter out normal fags

>>713360658
If I had to guess it was probably because he was a fan of Nitroplus. There was that one scene where Kageaki met a bunch of Nitroplus girls during a dream.

>>713360543
>I did point out thingies overseas was caused by our country's interest
The thing is you think we achieved "peace for peace sake" when that's just not true. We had economic and financial reasons to maintain peace and stability. We had the USA dictate peace on its own terms to the rest of the world in an effort to solidify its hegemony. Communism was a huge threat in the post war world and we needed peace to maintain the capitalist world order. Even this peace was very limited and hypocritical.

IF YOU KILL YOUR ENEMIES, YOU CAN JUST BRING THEM BACK TO LIFE IF THE COPS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT!

>game nearly ends with the author's self insert lecturing the MC about how his whole life is just cope for loving killing
>he seems to realize it is true in a moment of rage
>lol NM I'm going to make an organization of mercs that kill both sides of every conflict when hired and pretend like that's a good idea and I'm doing it to stop wars and continue to justify my murderous impulses lmao lol
BRAVO
SASUGA

>>713361403
Well duh, he's a much better character from a much better visual novel

>>713360847
Feel like the reading part would filter them
>>713360934
Didn't he retire in 2019 without doing anything else. Not that big of a fan huh

>>713361398
in a large scale of sense sure, but in smaller scale of things peace for the sake of keeping peace do happen a lot, that includes men working together to build a simple wooden bridge, that's an infrastructure
things like that is probably more important to us than caring about some fuckers upstairs that we're never going to interact

>>713361427
i will never understand why author have to lecture the reader about what their mc is doing, rance is a rapist motherfucker and the author never lecture you about “rape is bad “because he assumes you have more than 2 neuros to understand it.

>>713361403
Will always be mad that most of the conversations related to this VN is powerscale autism by retarded super robot people.

>>713361941
Super Robot story
Super Robot name of the story
Super Robot MC
Super Robot visual novel
Super Robot genre
Super Robot genre world

COPE

What was up with that kunoichi that had an old man's voice

>>713362069
They don’t talk about any of that, they only talk about how OP the mech is.

>>713362096
I love Dr. Girlfriend. Doc Hammer does a great job voicing her

>>713361403
Kishin Hishou TL when?
>>713361941
Same
I think Kuro is pretty underrated when it comes to MC.
>>713362069
I mean, they don't even discuss what the actual Demonbane can do. They just boogieman wank EGD.

>>713362162
maybe because the visual novel goes on at length about how fucking super awesome and powerful Demonbane is

How do I avoid becoming like this?

>>713362604
having healthy hobbies, like fishing.

>>713362604
he does has love life
he had sex with his mom and his armor

>>713362845

>didn't get to sex Nisei

What a shame

>>713362604
don't be a masochist serial killer

>>713362963
he does have sex with her in Tokyo Necro gacha (that was short lived as they lost to Taimanin RPGX)

>>713361941
I can't be too mad since one of those ridiculous memes is the reason I found out about it back in the day

>>713363514
>Tokyo Necro gacha
>gacha based off of an extremely mediocre VN
they really do try it with everything to see what sticks, don't they?

>>713363874
They invested all into that game thinking it was going to be the next Muramasa, I think the game was terrible as they got someone that's obedient the company to write the game inside of wild card like Narashima who left the company after making a massive hit
Sucks this massive flop lead to them completely giving up on eroge, and they no longer display their eroges on their official site anymore

>>713365159
to be fair, those are all on the Origin site, and all of the 4chan Classics (fag stories) are on the Chiral site.

Project vermillion soon

>>713356398
IMMELMAN MENTIONED

>>713356873
>>713356228
If you can't stomach (hehe) Nemu eating shit and then asking for more, you don't deserve to see their romance.

>>713349590 (OP)
>fanbase is full of chuds AND trans people
How am I meant to decide if this is good or not?

>>713355914
>if you kiss your sister you win VN

>>713366249
It's a fanbase full of retarded weebs that never read any books but think a VN is the most profound philosophical text ever written.

>>713349590 (OP)
>didn't understand the vn

>>713349590 (OP)
muramasa is shit

>>713349590 (OP)
Muramasa is the best shark ever made. See >>713366460

>>713366605

>>713366145
I want kanae not nemu yes even the real psycho kanae nemu was just imitating in the simulation

>>713367439
I also preferred the psycho S&M personality.
>simulation
I dunno, from Kanae's dialogue my own understanding was that pretty much all of it was real.
It's also hotter. Kanae could have stopped things at almost any time yet still chose to play along and chew that guy's underwear.

>>713368305
its all jumbled up from the protagonist's memory and from my own because I haven't read it in a while, but IIRC the school segments where all real, and they fucked with the MC's memories and perception of reality so they could run him through the torture stuff and school shit over and over again, i think it was a sim because like his daughter in the compund is like grown into the wall, and she shows up as a normal student during the torture stuff

>>713369246
It's all very ambiguous. But in stories like this I usually prefer things being real because it's more fun.
>i think it was a sim because like his daughter in the compund is like grown into the wall, and she shows up as a normal student during the torture stuff
They did literally make her part of a wall to rape her during the school part, she would need some amputations after that. We don't know how much time passed between the school stuff and the main character awakening in the compound again.

Muramasa thread on /v/? Nice

What's nitro+ up to these days?
Aside from Doll Nest, did they have anything else planned for the future?

Namaniku ATK left Nitroplus to become a freelancer few days ago. WIll still keep working with Nitroplus but this sort of arrangement seems to becoming the norm in VN industry for big names, happened with DD main artist as well.

>>713370219

Project Vermillion in development hell

Haven't read a VN in a while. Any decent releases recently?
Note: by recently, I mean everything after WA2's and KnS3's English release.

>>713370348
gacha killed VNs

>>713370518
But even Japanese gachas are dying, are they all going freelance to work for chinese and korean companies?

>>713370510
Hentai Prison

>>713370657
Is this or going full all-ages
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2024-06-26/cyberagent-to-acquire-creative-company-nitroplus-for-16.7-billion-yen/.212446

>>713370510
Aoi Tori

I dont know why but I immediately dropped Muramasa because I had a feeling it was a shit VN just from the prologue.

>>713371407
I think it's pretty good all things considered. Most of the posters here saying it sucks are kind of memeing at this point.

>>713370014
>>713370145
>>713370348
Why does NamaNiku like butts so much?
Just by looking at his art you know he can't live without it.

>>713370421
It's not in development at all.

>>713355290
I never got why people think the Count of Monte Christo has an anti-revenge message when the only thing I got from it is that you are totally justified as long as you dont drag unrelated people into it.

>>713356228
>>713366145
she was faking it all along

i'm still mad. trash game. trash ending.

>>713371569
Who doesn't?

>>713352474
Why should I care what someone on Twitter thinks?

>>713355290
Fear and hatred are powerful emotions that are easy to use. People have always used them to manipulate idiots. Don't expect people to get smarter with the internet or any other technology.
Plus, ignorance is blindness. No matter how hard you try to make people see.

>>713371761
Dumas was writing in a time and place that was still overwhelmingly Christian, so he had to bookend his "revenge is awesome" story with a few half assed statements about how revenge is bad, because Jesus said to turn the other cheek

>>713372090
Butts are nice, but women have other nice parts too.

>>713349590 (OP)
this is clearly not something the u.s. or israel believes in. i suppose we stupid eurocucks are the only ones who are supposed to believe this crap, then...

>>713372423
Butts have anuses and vaginas attached so they win by default

>>713352474
Before cucked Christianity took over whiteoids knew the value of revenge
Back to the past already

>>713365568
They stopped making VNs though, they did contract work for anime for few years, and now making indie-tier AA game.
They are doing horrible job with the game tho as they are not good at making a good gameplay, they are practically wasting good writers on a mediocre game with limited narrative scope
I wish they just go back to making cheap VNs instead of throwing unnecessary amount of cash at VN to make it ridiculously fancy like Tokyo Necro, and blame the loss on the VN format when it didn't make back the cost.

>>713356228
Subhuman filth propagating itself by coopting romance is the kind of development that nations and races invented genocide against

>>713372771
I see, maybe you are right...

>>713370219
>whoring writers to anime production
>making shitty non-h games that sucks
>errrrr steins gate remake
>Fujo sword gacha generating all the money for them to continue this disappointment

>>713349590 (OP)
You won’t understand the message in Muramasa unless you play Kikokugai, from the same company. They both reach the same conclusion.

>>713371569
the ass is the lords foundation

>>713371569

Because that's where shit comes out

>>713373662
and trying to expand the madoka franchise together with aniplex

The charges, officer?

>>713374165
He's literally me.

>>713374165
Did he actually fuck the trap or just wanted to fuck with kageaki? I think he solely into women.

>>713374165
Honestly him vs ichijou and ichijou vs kageaki, were better mech fights than kageaki vs ginseigo

>>713374165
>Why did you rape that girl?
>I just felt like it lmao
B A S E D

>>713349590 (OP)
That's not what the theme was about.
The theme is that, by killing you are both killing the potential good and evil in people.
Therefore you should not justify you kills in the name of Good or Justice, because that is done in ignorance and can easily be distorted (brcause you can rationalize any kill to be for good).
If you should kill, it should be done in acknowledgement that you are doing it because of what you value and can sacrifice, and don't pretend it is for the betterment of the world.

The protagonist by the end of the story even practice a more Monstrous version of this philosophy through the law of balance.
He created a Mercenary group that will take ANY job as long as the client is willing to accept them also killing as much innocent lives or loved ones for every kill they make

ENTER

>>713373662
The Steins;Gate remake is guaranteed to be shit

>>713363874
I started re-reading Tokyo Necro recently.
It only got more fun.
Embrace fun.
Billions must have fun.

>>713357458
>>713357706
It's not the complete ending anyway, the one was after the final fight was also.

That shitty kid that gives hope is in parallel with the crazyass warlord that gives despair.

Both hold the same ideals, its their methods that are so different, they are like two sides of the same coin

>>713361427
Gotta admit, its kino how the only routes in which he still lives is when he embraces his villany and worst impulses

>>713377957
True because the original is shit as well.