Classic+ bros....We are going home.

>>713352620 (OP)
BUY

>>713352620 (OP)
i'm playing this just because it's a pserver desu
luv me vanilla wow
'ate classic
simple as

Playing a hardcore character in turtle to tide me over. I'm pretty sure people there are getting chat muted for talking about Epoch.

Tauren hunter
Explorer's contract (50% reduced exp)
Leveling kino

>>713353568
Real talk nigga, what makes Project Epoch better than Turtle is it really that hyped?

>>713353731
My guess is the devs aren’t rogue hating pally dick riders.

>>713353731
Eh, it's just another Turtle, honestly. I'm only excited for it since it's fresh. Turtle has been around too long, everyone is already in BIS gear expecting fresh 60s to be in T1 just to do Strat. The server Mafia controlling who raids and who doesn't is also absolutely ridiculous there.
I know it'll happen to Epoch too, but at least I'll have a chance at being one of the founding Mafia members.

>>713353731
They're fairly different at this point. In essence, Epoch is vanilla content running on the WotLK patch for stability's sake but with BC talents for balance and fun's sake. Plus some minor tweaks here and there. Sounds like a decent philosophy, if you ask me.

Turtle on the other hand is trying to evolve vanilla in a direction that their dev team believes was more consistent with Blizzard circa 2004-ish. They've added new races, new dungeons, and heavily tweaked some skills and talents (Lightwell is gone and forgotten, thank fuck). They're currently in the process of making a UE5-based client that can switch between classic graphics and shiny new ones they're making.

Turtle gets some flack for having an overly-sensitive/"woke" mod team, but I've never chafed against that personally. I still play it from time to time and am also interested to check out Epoch when it launches.

>>713352620 (OP)
How are warlocks looking? It's the only class I enjoy.

>>713354243
They get Seed of Corruption and Soul shatter.

>>713354243
some anon in a previous thread was saying they separated the debuff curses from curse of agony so you don't feel cucked when you have to put up elements or whatever

>>713354243
Affliction is crazy good in TBC right? I'm kind of upset demonology is still a joke despite the devs trying to redesign the capstone talent to make it more interesting and then just giving up.

Might go with shaman since they made 2H viable for it too.

>>713353731
there are no addons or databases for new quests, items, or dungeons. It's actually going to be an adventure again.

>>713352620 (OP)
>1 - 20
based based based leveling
>20 - 40
dear god please help me
>40 - 50
basado yet again
>50 - 60
...

>>713353731
One will not force me to download motherfucking unreal engine 5 version of 21yo game.

>>713353731
better in terms of enjoyment is subjective but epoch's custom content is way higher quality, including class reworks
meanwhile turtle is quantity over quality with somehow worse pvp than regular vanilla in t3 gear

>>713354570
For me, the burnout is 40-60. There are never enough quests, so you're forced to repeat dungeons a dozen times.
At least the server will have plenty of new quests.

>>713354419
>Might go with shaman since they made 2H viable for it too.
They made 2h Shaman work on Epoch? I thought they were forcing it down the dual wield route since they're on TBC talents, and I don't see anything that would change that.

>>713355230
Bro, check the talents.

>>713355321
Yes? They have dual wield as a talent still, just like TBC, and nothing that pushes them towards 2h.

>>713355482
Oh shit, looks like they changed it, I guess. Lame.

>>713353731
Wotlk client > banilla client

Vanilla client is mega aids no matter how much fixes you throw at it. 3.3.5 just works.

>>713355741
How is it lame? It just makes more options viable. Realistically there will be BIS weapons that will make one better than the other but at least they're trying to give you options.

>>713356182
Not him, but without any push towards 2h through optional talents or whatever, Dual Wield will always be superior.

>>713353438
APPLY

>>713352620 (OP)
stop living in the past, your childhood is never coming back

I don't care about the fact they made fucking deadmines hard or added Cumsuck the Skeleton as a rare in fucking Silverpine forest or whatever the fuck. Since it's on the WoTLK client, does that mean that shared quest objectives are in? Tried to play Turtle with some friends last year and quest objectives not being shared fucking sucked. Actively made the multiplayer part of the MMO suck balls.

>>713356486
classic boomers dont care
they are retarded and cant move on

>>713352620 (OP)
>custom client
I vill NOT download ze botnet.

>>713356649
Some items drop for everyone, some don't, that's literally how the game has always worked.

>>713357193
Not sure what expansion it was, pretty sure it was wotlk, they made all quest items from every quest drop for everyone at the same time so you don't have to kill 50 bears to get 10 bear asses each for a party of 5 (assuming every bear has an ass of course).

>>713353939
They barely gave anything to rogue or paladin so no favoritism there
On the other hand they fucking love hunter and mage