Thread 713354284

AMD Won

In the CPU market, sure.

>>713354375
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/103838/rx-9070-xt-beats-rtx-5080-in-cyberpunk-2077-3dmark-after-undervolting-rdna-4-hits-3-3ghz/index.html

$650 gpu beating $1450 gpu

>>713354463
>No RT/PT

Into the trash it goes.

I just wish their kernel driver would be good now.

>>713354746
Bottom 5 cards shouldn't be getting benched at 4K anyway.

>Cyberpunk
I mean that game actually just sucks.

>>713354974
Why not? 4k isn't that demanding anyone especially when DLSS exists.

>>713354974
I am not sure anything ought to be benched at 4k at all.

>>713355079
It just seems like overkill to me, and I don't think excusing poor baseline performance because frame generation exists is a good attitude to have.
>>713355086
I'm convinced that 1440p is the sweet spot, massive improvement over 1080p whilst still being sustainable for your hardware.
I don't think the jump from 1440p to 4K is as impressive as 1080p to 1440p.

Is Powercolor a good brand?

>>713355921
Yes. I know it sounds like a shit brand, but it's in the top three AMD AIBs, at basically always the best price/reliablity/performance. Get the Hellhound.

>>713355621
27 inch displays are the ideal monitor size that no amount of marketing and ultrawide memes can overcome. 1440p is perfect at 27'' and thats why it'll always be the perfect resolution until we beam content into our brains directly

>has to turn settings off in order to run the benchmark
>we won we won
lol

>>713354284 (OP)
>amd wo-ACK
good morning saar

>>713354284 (OP)
>AMD Won
... in the lower middle end segment
lol

I just wish we could have new cheap low energy consuming cards on market
I hate how the industry decided we need to keep going bigger, more demanding on computing power, that we have to have cards that are half meter long, consume 500 wats,
as much as I dislike nintendo they have/had right idea about modest hardware

>>713354746
Using the fsr4 injector I get ~55fps at 1440p for full pt, dropped down to psycho I get a bit above 60.

>>713355621
>1440p is a MASSIVE improvement over 1080p
I think you mean "slight" improvement
Most people don't care or notice. Look how slow uptake has been. Diminishing returns. Use your eyes.

>>713357342
It was for me. I've spent the last decade with 2 1080p 60hz 23.8in and I finally swapped them out for 1440p 170hz 27in ones and it's been a huge improvement.
One actually arrived before the other so for a day I had the 1440p one beside my old 1080p and the difference was extremely telling.

>>713354284 (OP)
Worse upscale and RT

>>713356943
Price is the only real gripe you have on that list. And you should of course have that gripe, prices are ridiculous and low end keeps getting refreshes of 5 year old cards.
But today's cards up to the 5080 are extremely power efficient, and you can further drop them to like 70% power draw and barely lose FPS. Buy a two fan 4070/4070S/5070/9070 and it's small too.
CPUs are more efficient than ever, thanks to AMD's X3D's.
Monitors aren't CRT power hogs either, which were easily over 100W, now a flat panel is like maybe 30W.

Only once you go completely overkill with like a 5090 and an Intel moar power 14900k does the power usage go retarded.

>>713354284 (OP)
I've owned both Nvidia and AMD cards for the past near decade, and the RX9070XT is the first AMD card I'd wholeheartedly recommend if you can get it near MSRP. I'd only get a 5070Ti instead if it's noticeably cheaper.

>>713358149
And you want to use even less power, play at max 60 fps 1080p like 20 years ago.
No game fucking ran well, even compared to today. Horrible frame pacing too.

>>713358149
>Intel moar power 14900k
assuming it doesn't melt the second you put it under load

I'm returning my 9070XT because it still is just annoying as shit to use with comfyui. It's a good card though. Steel Legend maintains great temps.

>>713354284 (OP)
>3 8-pin power sockets
housefire incoming

>>713354463
>5080 is at stock speed
>No RT/PT
>The 5070ti and 4080 both beating the 9070 but are placed below it in the chart
Don't gert me wrong, I do believe the 5080 is an overpriced card. But this is not really a fair comparison, don't you think? RT/PT is where Nvidia shines in gaming. Der8auer has a clear bias.
And good luck finding a 9070XT for $650 unless you get lucky as fuck.

>>713354284 (OP)
are AMD GPUS capable of doing stablediffusion yet? one of the biog reasons i dont switch teams

>>713359578
of course not

>>713359578
you can but it involves a decent amount of effort to get started and it's barely documented anywhere. people that can get it running report meh/slow speeds. Like it would take a similar nvidia card 5 seconds while the same amd specced card will take longer. it can also randomly be bricked the moment AMD updates anything.

>>713359578
>>713359752
it also involves linux WSL, it is not at all plug and play like genning with an nvidia card will be

>>713359752
>>713359932
shit fuck that i might as well stay on my 3090 then

>wins in pure raster price/performance
>loses in pure raster performance
>loses in RT
>loses in upscaling
>loses in AI
lol

>>713354284 (OP)
Why does it have three plugs? What is wrong with modern GPUs?

Anyone else here just waiting for the 9090? I hope they do it.

>>713354284 (OP)
if the card was actually buyable at MSRP yes, but they are almost the same price as some 5070tis because techtoobers shilled it so fucking hard.

you're right, AMD won against Intel
Nvidia gpu + AMD cpu is the patrician way

>>713354746
its over

We can finally play a game from 5 years ago well, we won AMD bros

>>713354284 (OP)
The biggest win is actually FSR4 + RIS2.0 which you can use with the 9070/XT. All the merit of the previous AMD cards were irrelevant because they were stuck with shitty image quality.

>>713355621
DLSS doesn't mean frame generation

>>713360057
pretty much every console and gambling machine uses amd
most of posters here use amd without even knowing it

>>713361463
and this is related to my post how?

>>713360640
>FSR4
lol

>>713361280
Fair enough, but my point still stands, you're accepting a lower standard out of the box with the hope that DLSS or FSR or whatever software will make up for it and devs will run with that and use it as an excuse to be lazy.
You'll receive more unoptimized garbage and it'll hurt people with lower end hardware the most.

>>713361735
poorfags can just play old games

>>713356749
Wouldn't the majority be sars?

>>713361463
awesome. if a gambling machine uses amd then I guess it'll be good for 4k path traced cyberpunk then

>>713354463
Beating in what? Rasterization?
What does that matter?
Why would I spend $600+ on a card that can't generate big anime titties in 2025?

>>713361628
you would get it if you were not brown and low iq

>>713361814
That kind of thinking killed Xbox.

>>713361983
It can if you have decent IQ

Poor fag here. I just bought a RX 6600 XT to replace my RTX 3050 6gb. Thoughts?

>>713361660
Yes. FSR4 is good. With access to DLSS or FSR4 there is literally no reason you should ever use baseline TAA or old FSR ever again. If you're forced into a scenario without DLSS or FSR4, get XESS. If it's a game that doesn't have any of these, then it's an old game or a graphically uintensive game so you can just supersample it.

>>713362191
if you just want to game only that GPU is servicable.

>>713362191
is that even an upgrade?

>akshully RT gud
This board is full of fucking losers holy shit

>>713354284 (OP)
last i checked nvidia has the fastest card so no, amd lost

>>713362335
Better if you don't use ray tracing, which it shouldn't with the 3050 anyway.

>try to gen on 9070XT
>comfyui is the best but only works with nvidia gpus unless on linux, install linux distro via WSL, run several commands in terminal to install proper pytorch, rocm, etc...
>errors abound
>google an error
>answer found in random github post or video make by an indian with bad english
>error fixed
>new error appears
>no one even talking about it.

its over..

>>713362518
post spec with timestamp

>>713362874
amd is the linux of graphic cards

>>713354284 (OP)
>3 bulky 8-pin connectors instead of the sleek and sexy 12V-2x6™ (now safer than ever with improved design) adapter
heh, I think I know why people prefer a certain brand over another...

they are so close to the same price I'm just gonna get a 5070TI. What the hell happened to 599 MSRP?

>>713354284 (OP)
I wish they'd start winning some fucking market share.
I still have my 6800XT, best card of the past 5 years, if I say so myself.
I might go for a 10600XT next time around, though. The power consumption is just killing me.

>>713354463
The RTX 5080 is a shit card but this is just unfair. The stock RTX 5080 is nowhere close to its potential since it can OC just up to the RTX 4090. Nvidia did this because for the inevitable RTX 5080 Super which they need to drop with a factory overclock as extra VRAM isn't enough for the premium they probably want to charge.

>>713364629
So """""safe""""" it tasks the user to use tools to monitor its pins to make sure it's not going to cause a house fire KEK. Meanwhile 8-pins have been a standard for a reason.
Can't wait to see the next corpo ass licking from green fanboys on the next round of corner cutting, at the risk of the user, that jensen and his retards employ. And I can't wait to see you all keep licking that nshittia boot ;)

You make this post every generation and nvidia's market share just goes up every generation.

>>713356304
I think Sapphire and Powercolor are the best AMD GPU partners

>>713365608
Correct.

>>713365608
JUST those are basically the same price as a 5070ti in my neck of the woods for a 9070XT

>>713365539
thank OEMs for that. Intel marketshare is also going up because of this too.

Oh did they finally release a CUDA equivalent/wrapper?

>>713365191
>>713361983
>>713359535
>>713354746
Sounds like Nvidia cope. Twice the price but worse fps.

who actually uses 4k

Valve/Steam RADV is 50% faster than Nvidias Windows driver btw and its exclusive to AMD.

>shit up /pcbg/
>mods suck dicks and don't do their job
>nobody posts in the general anymore
>amd retard is lonely and decides to bring his shit to /v/
lmao what sad existence

not even trying to be a dick but so many indians talk about AMD and for that reason I stay away

>>713366036
I do. What do you want to know?

>>713366036
I got a 4k TV with a 5090 to play games at 120FPS

>>713361851
saars can't afford nvidia

>>713354867
They're doing fine compared to whatever NVIDIA is doing now.

>>713354375
>AMD
>wonned cpu anything
hello pajeet

>>713366034
>durr why is overclocked to the max card faster than the stock one with huge overclocking headroom

>>713354375
>xe le doesn't know

>>713354284 (OP)
but can it generate animated midna butts?

>>713368080
That guy's just shitting up different boards.
>>>/g/105665367
>>>/g/105665335

>>713368172
turn on ray tracing, or are AMDer afraid of the future?

>>713367295
Indians absolutely love nvidia since it's seen as a status symbol over there.

>>713368701
on another note if you ever want a laugh, go to a gaming laptop forum and see all the indians seethe
>SARS DO NOT BUY *LAPTOP MAKER* THEY MAKE BAD LAPTOPS
>I TRY TO PLAY IN MY 90 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT, HUMID HUT WITH NO AIRFLOW AND THE LAPTOP SIMPLY DO NOT WORK
>DO NOT BUY THIS LAPTOP IT IS VERY BAD
for every single laptop variation, they think its the manufacturer's fault they live in a hot, humid shithole

I don't buy amd trash because I'm not a destitute pajeet living in squalor.

>>713365994
linux has had rocm for a while now anon

>>713368479
lol he made another thread for optiscaler
I wonder if he's on some medication.
He certainly is on welfare because 9070xt is cosidered huge expense.
Imagine shilling some trash for free 24/7.

>>713365608
The three are those + XFX.
PowerColor is always the smartest one because it's cheaper and at times the best in all metrics.

>>713369807
and it doesn't work

Nvidia is the only option worth considering by default because expensive GPUs are only valuable for productivity or AI powered gooning
No game worth playing requires a high end GPU

>>713367334
Latest linux-firmware-amdgpu causes black screen now

>>713370970
works on my machine

>>713370150
works on my machine

>>713370970
do you have to be on bleeding edge latest? just rollback.

>>713370371
I just bought a 5070ti + 3k pc and all I've played so far is classic wow (ultra graphics) and c&c generals

>>713368479
Lmao I checked those links—dude’s been speedrunning ban-worthy behavior across boards. It’s always the same MO too: starts with "why my toaster GPU beats your actual hardware", then spirals into some schizo paranoia about drivers and anti-consumerism. Probably got ratio’d in a hardware thread a year ago and never recovered.

>>713354284 (OP)
I'm never buying an AMD card they're total dogshit. All modern games will have forced RT. NVIDIA runs better in UE5. NVIDIA made its worst generation and AMD couldn't even compete.

>>713372212
The cretin doesn't even have basic knowledge of the hardware he's shilling/criticizing.
>>>/g/105671252

>>713372389
why lie and eat shit

>>713368080
>>713370018
>>713372212
>>713372603
I'm from /v/ but what the fuck are you guys talking about? you have to be terminally online to care

>>713371943
I had to sell my 5070ti because of the nonstop driver issues on Windows.

>>713373046
Some neet poorfag missed a 5070ti for cheap and settled for a 9070xt. He's been shitting the /pcbg/ general on /g/ for months and now nobody posts there.
He got lonely and moved to /v/. If you see a thread that's basically "amd won" or compaints about nvidia it's 99% him.

>>713370075
What I like about the Powercolor cards is that I don't have to take apart the cooler and unplug the connector going to the gaymer lights.

Ban this faggot mods

>>713368172
Xe is Intel.

>>713354746
do you actually give a fuck about ray tracing or are you just using it as a tool for the narrative?

because you would be the first person that i have ever seen give a fuck about that shit

>>713370018
>lol he made another thread for optiscaler
Is it this one? >>713368467
His card's not even getting 80 FPS with DLSS Balanced + Frame Generation enabled.

should i pair my i7 7700k with rtx 5070ti 16gb?????