Thread 713355928

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

literally who

Thumbs should NOT be this mobile

>>713356065
my right thumb can do this but not my left

VDS (Valve Derangement Syndrome}

>>713355928 (OP)
i fucking hate journalists so god damn much

>>713355928 (OP)
>jacob "tranny" roach

Switch 2 literally killed any hype the Deck 2 had left.

>>713355928 (OP)
Oh no, not the urinalist!

>>713355928 (OP)
>expect article to be about switch 2
>It's about the ROG Ally and the Lenovo go

For once, the vidya urinalist got it right

Deckard will be a Steam Deck in the form of a VR headset that will not only save VR but revolutionize it.

>>713355928 (OP)
>Nintendo Switch drive by articles fail
>get new marching orders to go after Steam Deck 2 which will also fail
Xbot/Snoy cope won't end

>>713357285
ahh yes, just like the index, steam controller, steam link, steamdeck. All of which failed to outsell the fucking n gage

>>713357140
my switch 2 is solely docked. dont give a fuck about portables. its just my nintendo box

>>713358131
>index
flopped like the rest of the vr industry
>steam controller
got patent trolled by scuf
>steam link
discontinued since valve realised there was no point in its existence when they could just bundle the software with steam
>steam machine
the only legitimate faliure on valve's part
>steam deck
literally valve's first major success, it sold out multiple times and it singlehandedly saved linux gaming

don't care until someone else makes another handheld or at least a controller with two trackpads and at least 4 back paddles

the deck flopped with only 4 millions despite being heavily shilled and set as "the switch killer'
it's simply too weak for pc gaming, and a $550 machine for emulating old games and playing 2d indies while missing out every single AAA release isn't not worth it

>>713355987
roach

>>713355928 (OP)
>jacob ROACH

>>713358131
Pretty sure 4 million is more than 2 million.

>>713363320
>4 million is more than 2 million
Source? LOL OWNED

Good. sell it. Used market can use a boost

deck oled came out in late 2023 how fucking impatient are people

We lost Jacob Roach, bros... it's over...

>>713363971
and it was already obsolete by then
people want a device that actually runs new games

>>713363971
Current AAA slop is having trouble playing on the Deck and the Switch 2 just released so people are now wanting a Deck 2. They're trying to call that Legion Go S shit a Steam Deck 2 when the Deck 2 is going to completely shit on that incremental update.

>>713364054
you dont need to play unreal engine 5 games at max on a handheld

>>713355928 (OP)
Deck 2 will probably come out in 2027 at the earliest and yeah I don't care to wait that long. Going to pick up an Ally X2 or Legion Go 2 this summer.

>>713356065
Looks like a Dr Seuss character

>>713364128
I mean compared to the Deck 1 the Legion go 2 is already a full gen update since it can actually play UE5 games at 60 fps. For the Deck 2 to be even better I don't know what it will take.

>>713358131
yes all of them pushed the industry forward like valve always has done this valve hate has to stop at some point niggas just be trying to find anything to hate on deckard is another masterpiece on its way

>>713364158
>you don't need anything above minimum graphics
just because you're cucked doesn't mean people with standards have to endure this garbage
it's no surprise the deck sold like shit

>>713355928 (OP)
>had one for about 10 months
>power button already broken
Absolute piece of shit.

>>713364540
that's a feature, it's meant to give you a fun little challenge tearing the deck apart and replacing it's components

>>713355928 (OP)
The first Deck is still fine.
And if you NEED to play the latest AAA games, you can get a competitor with better hardware.

>>713364429
>Index
>Steam controller
>Steam machines
>Push the industry forward

Come on now. I'd also argue the Deck didn't really push anything forward since the UMPC industry is still struggling really hard. Valve made it work because they basically subsidize most of the costs, but these new handhelds are showing it's not actually a profitable product line. The market simply is not there.

>>713355928 (OP)
>Jacob Roach
no fucking way

>>713362324
4 million is huge considering how niche PC handhelds are and how few markets in which the steam deck was actually available for sale. Steam deck 2 might actually hit 10 million if Valve worked out their logistics, but the best case scenario is Xbox does all the heavy lifting for them and releases a PC handheld that people can buy steam games on.

>>713364692
>it's fine, just spend $550 to play old shit and miss out every new release, you don't NEED new games

>>713365061
It's a PORTABLE, not a FULL SIZE DESKTOP
being as good as it was in 2022, it really fucked up everyone's expectations

Anybody tried recording with it? I got some good footage of RE5 but if I tried to run it at a resolution higher than 720 and record at the same time with OBS the controller would be unresponsive for a few seconds every 5 miutes or so. I was able to record Bloodrayne in 4K though.

>>713365061
Yes why would you want to play new sloppa?

>>713355928 (OP)
Imagine your last name being roach

>>713365061
Retard if they made a device like you want the battery life would be 10 minutes

Playing this in handheld mode gives me the worst shoulder and neck pain I've ever felt.

>>713357140
yeah, man. btfo by one game

>>713365061
>$550
pretty sure I paid a lot less than that when I got mine years ago

>>713355928 (OP)
read the article
TL;DR:
>Other PC handhelds exist
>SteamOS is now generally available making them as good as the Steam deck for most people
>What other OEMs could learn from Valve

>>713365375
I can play all games so I don't have to pretend anything is bad to cope about missing out

>>713365668
that's 1 more than what the deck has, no wonder the switch 2 outsold the deck's lifetime sales in 4 days

Anything that can brick itself because of updates goes directly into the trash.

>>713365840
but can you play them in bed tho

How well does PS2, PSP and Wii U emulation work on Deck?

>>713362123
This, 100 times.
Never buying another controller unless it's dual trackpad. Never buying another handheld unless it's dual trackpad.

Why are these PC handhelds still coming out with NO trackpads?

>>713366104
>PS2, PSP
Great. Never ran into any issues.
>Wii U
Never bothered and not sure why you would, but I imagine fine.

>>713366251
Stop replying to yourself, fag.

>>713366104
PPSSPP has run on toasters for a long time.
It runs PCSX2 really well.
Can't say for Weeyoo

>>713355928 (OP)
>(((Jacob))) Turkroach
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

>>713366423
Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD

>>713364380
>I mean compared to the Deck 1 the Legion go 2 is already a full gen update since it can actually play UE5 games at 60 fps. For the Deck 2 to be even better I don't know what it will take
The next gen Xbox's low-end custom AMD APU based on Zen 5 UDNA but with the backwards compatibility disabled, that is what will put the Steam Deck 2 over it. It'll be able to play games 60 FPS and above.

>>713358235
This but the opposite

>>713365890
Yeah, bro, democracy!

The capabilities the deck has are impressive but it's hampered by how much troubleshooting you have to do. And shit randomly breaks during updates. For some reason I can't put it to sleep by pushing the power button when it's in desktop mode. I have to hit sleep from the start menu, but the power button still wakes it up. It's just an endless amount of shit like that. But I guess on the bright side when it does work I can run RE games with nude Leon and Chris mods.

>>713368225
So in 2028 at the earliest. Meh.

>>713364054
>and it was already obsolete by then
But enough about switch 2

>>713368856
2027, 2028 is too late and would shift to Zen 6 and Zen 6 costs too much.

>>713356065
Eww what the fuck. Even if your thumb CAN do that, why is it necessary?

>>713368956
Probably tail end of 2027 and that's being optimistic desu. Even so by then the other handhelds will have their own upgrades so the gap won't be that big anymore if they don't pull out of the race.

>>713357140
In what way? I just want to play old school classics and watch movies on it, (or via it)on my TV. Switch is literally a paperweight console right now. Not much going on for it. If deck 2 has twice the battery size it has now, then Im sold af

Deck is great but the hardware is too fucking outdated. We PCfags are graphics whores so no upgrades for this long is painful.

>>713355928 (OP)
Why should i care about what "Jacob Roach" has to say?

>>713369127
Most likely early, Microsoft is getting the APU out as soon as late next year, if anything handheld version will come shortly after like with Sony who's using Zen 6 which is why the PS6 is late 2027 and the PS handheld is early 2028.

>the thumb
Remember these are the people calling you a chud. They'd lose to you by default in thumb war and that game has no journalist mode.

>>713364054
>people want a device that actually runs new games
So not the shitch 2
>b-but muh cyberpunk!!!
Yeah a half-decade old game that runs at 360p.

valve is retarded for not going for a zen5 rdna4 refresh
your only problem is weak hardware and you can easily fucking fix it

>>713357140
I literally could not give a fuck about the Switch 2.

>>713369717
Why bother when they're going for Zen 5 UDNA successor?

>>713356065
What the fuck?

>>713369884
because instead of staying on top of their game they end up playing catch up
i hope that they're at least going to heavily market it to normies this time around
why wait so long otherwise

>>713369884
an explicit confirmation from Valve that a next-gen deck will happen would still be nice

>>713356065
why not?

>>713356065
is this consolecuck thumb?

>>713364380
If it can manage UE5 at medium settings for at least 3 hours that'll be enough to justify a Deck 2.
>>713362324
>>713365061
>retards incapable of understanding that the Deck is an ACCESSORY to a PC

>>713370328
>If it can manage UE5 at medium settings for at least 3 hours that'll be enough to justify a Deck 2.
The Ally X can already do that...

>>713369259
We'll see, but knowing Valvetime I have zero expectations. I see them investing more into steamOS than a Deck 2 so you'll be waiting a loooong time.

Both Steam Deck owners have been rowdy lately, what’s going on?

>>713370374
And it costs $800 to achieve that 80wh battery, and it doesn't even come with the built in Steam Controller.

>>713370087
Their current strategy seems to be working and it helps to keep prices lower selling directly to consumers. Things may change but that's completely depended on what Valve wants to do.

>>713370147
Probably next year will be the announcement.

>>713370448
AMD's Z series roadmap is ending so Valve is definitely going to make one as the new standard, it also doesn't help that Microsoft is going all in on the OEM push while also giving out some of these first-party custom AMD APUs to third-party hardware companies to make their own Xboxes to try to stop the growth of SteamOS so a Steam Deck 2 is definitely needed. I don't expect a Steam Deck 3 though anytime soon unless ARM64 can pick up.

>>713369250
I don't understand why they didn't do an annual upgrade of hardware for it.

>>713368758
Go to system settings > power management and set "when power button is pressed" to "sleep"

>>713370957
They realized the the battery life was worse and the prices were getting more high just for a bunch of increments. They wanted a generational leap that allowed them to have battery life on par with the Steam Deck's but with better performance so it can play more games and at higher frame rates.

>>713371348
Thank you, but I really wonder how shit like this breaks in the first place. The most recent update completely changed the look of the desktop and there's even a splash screen I've never seen before.

>>713369717
AMD confirmed no RDNA4 mobile chips, it's desktop only. UDNA will have desktop and mobile chips.

How the hell do you alt tab in desktop mode? The only way I can do it is with a wired 360 controller by holding home and start.

>>713357140
why? it can’t play anything

>>713370843
The Z series was just their regular mobile chip without the NPU anyway.

>>713371862
Pretty much

>>713370087
That's exactly it. Valve isn't in a rush because they’ve carved out this niche where they’re basically the only ones doing handheld PC gaming with ANY degree of UI polish. They want to let tech mature so they don’t have to release a half-step upgrade that just eats battery and jacks the price. If they push it hard to normies this time, though, we might finally get a real competitor to Switch.

>>713370957
Because Valve used the Aerith chip for it which was a canceled mobile chip from AMD and they got it for pennies. Every other reason is pure speculation and or PR shit. This has actual confirmation.
Custom chips have high fixed costs, Valve is not paying that for a machine that only moved 4 million units.
Valve isn't even making the driver for the thing, they have no business designing custom silicon.

I can't see this thing still working in 5-10 years. Won't the rechargeable battery in handhelds die eventually?

>>713362324
sales is one thing but cultural impact is another. PC gaming has always been niche and expensive compared to console gaming. When the steam deck came out most people thought it was just a proof of concept handheld pc that only the steam fanboys would buy. Then it turns out it's basically a switch that can play steam games, run linux, and emulate a bunch of different things. Suddenly Asus, legion, playstation, and now Xbox are taking the handheld pill. Now compared to the switch, the steam deck is still relatively niche, but it has broken through to get mainstream attention. Its perfect for people that want to play games that aren't on the switch/ps5 but don't want to deal with the financial sink and puzzle of building a computer with gpu, cpu, power supply etc. I remember seeing pictures of rappers holding a deck, saying it flopped because of a number just doesn't seem entirely truthful.

>>713371671
They updated the desktop mode to use the newest version of kde/plasma, but I think whoever at valve is responsible for packaging it for steamos messed up on including valve's custom default settings made for deck so some things defaulted back to being unset

>>713373136
It's changed to settings that it never had even when I got it. Like the power button issue. Why in the fuck would something as basic as pressing the power button to put it to sleep get disabled?

Are there official plans for a Deck 2? I figure at this point I should be waiting for a hardware revision if I get one.

It'd probably cost a 1000 minimum.

>>713362324
Tired of dealing with switchvegans myself.

The Steam Deck is pretty cool, most zoomers just don't know how to configure the Deck to run games smooth and/or try to play poorly optimized shit l like expedition 33 on it

>>713365916
So any online capable device?

>>713373859
Most Deck owners probably don't know half the shit you can do with it. If I'm not playing a game I use it to watch Youtube or my anime archive.
>>713374270
Never had that happen with the Switch.

>>713374382
Why would you watch video on an 800p device the size of an Su-57?

>>713374543
>docked

>>713374382
Guess you were lucky updating to 20.0.0 earlier this year, or you just missed it and skipped ahead to the hotfix update that didn't brick consoles.

>>713373340
Valve is just working on it, right now, but they did say they would announce stuff hardware related next year.

>>713374748
Oh.