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Anonymous No.713374342 >>713374615 >>713374867 >>713375402 >>713375969 >>713376249 >>713377612 >>713384184 >>713384897 >>713387012 >>713387353 >>713387793 >>713401126 >>713406858 >>713413985 >>713414151 >>713419061 >>713422571 >>713425853
His music sounds too good to be real
Anonymous No.713374615 >>713375031 >>713375128 >>713375227 >>713375651 >>713377542 >>713378291 >>713379410 >>713384184 >>713385213 >>713385402 >>713385503 >>713385935 >>713389632 >>713389961 >>713401223 >>713401809 >>713402962 >>713405217 >>713405252 >>713407875 >>713409967 >>713410276 >>713410329 >>713412621 >>713412809
>>713374342 (OP)
between him, koji kondo, and yoko shimomura, who is the true number 1 of vidya music
Anonymous No.713374867
>>713374342 (OP)
he is listed on one of the oldest kickstarter scams. Did he ever comment on this?
Anonymous No.713375031
>>713374615
nobuo hand down
Anonymous No.713375128 >>713419869
>>713374615
michiru yamane
Anonymous No.713375227
>>713374615
the GOAT
Anonymous No.713375402 >>713378627
>>713374342 (OP)
I really like his music but the 16-bit music was just on another level. no one is even close
Anonymous No.713375503 >>713375924 >>713376063
His run from FF I - X is legendary. Emotionally I'd say Kondo's music hits ever so slightly higher because of personal factors, but in pure composition I'd say Uematsu is better. I know at least one FF song, I think Rosa's theme, is used in Japanese music curriculum.
Anonymous No.713375651 >>713376245 >>713408012 >>713412974
>>713374615
Yasunori Mitsuda, Kenji Ito, Hiroki Kikuta Noriyuki Iwadare, Yuzo Koshiro, Michiko Naruke, and Hitoshi Sakimoto are all really up there too.
Anonymous No.713375913
I associate him with final fantasy
but then I heard his work in the latest fantasy life game and I know its not really a serious kind of game but it fuckin sucks lmao
Anonymous No.713375924 >>713377207
>>713375503
It's rough, for me I think it might be Kondo slight edge because the breadth is wider. SMB 3 and SM 64 have some insanely good songs I would describe as "fun" and he still has some amazing emotional songs in the zelda games too. I would say while Nubou might be better at emotional riffs I don't think he really matches Koji for whimsy i m o
Anonymous No.713375969 >>713376307 >>713377191
>>713374342 (OP)
Too bad Final Fantasy didn't utilize them well. If I was a game designer and has his level of music, I would have designed locations and story around it. Instead, they just stuck it in as an afterthought. And in some games like Final Fantasy VI, you can rush through areas before even hearing the whole song. At least in III and V you get larger areas and get to hear the whole songs.

While Sugiyama has the problem of having too few songs in DQ games, FF has the problem of too many songs and not using them well.
Anonymous No.713376063
>>713375503
>I know at least one FF song, I think Rosa's theme, is used in Japanese music curriculum.
Theme of Love? I always wondered why that song got so much attention in crossover games like Dissidia and Theatrhythm. It's a nice song but it never stood out to me that much. I guess that explains it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLkS2vvcCw8
Anonymous No.713376245 >>713413234
>>713375651
The Mitsuda x Uematsu team up is still the greatest soundtrack ever made.
Anonymous No.713376249 >>713376953 >>713377119 >>713382213
>>713374342 (OP)
And he didn't have any music theory backgrounds
Anonymous No.713376307 >>713377657 >>713378334
>>713375969
check out ffxi. his music (ito co-created some of the later expansions) set the entire mood for each area
Anonymous No.713376460 >>713378308
>xenoblade 2 didn't even get NOMINATED for best soundtrack at the gay awards the year it came out
justify this
Anonymous No.713376953 >>713377119
>>713376249
Most of the greatest artists in any medium are usually randos who just get into it for fun with little to no formal training.
Anonymous No.713377119
>>713376953
>>713376249
But they also learn stuff along the way. It's not that he never learned any music theory. He just didn't go to a formal college and learn it.
Anonymous No.713377191 >>713377876 >>713378138 >>713423951
>>713375969
i disagree, his work on FF8 in particular perfectly sets the mood.
Anonymous No.713377207
>>713375924
It also helps that the music in Zelda is heavily integrated into the game and story. There are parts where you have to play music to advance, or it's incorporated like in Wind Waker with the nice little tune Makar plays on his violin after beating the wind temple. It forms a more personal attachment and makes nice memories.
Anonymous No.713377542 >>713380346
>>713374615
I have to give a lot of credit to stewart copeland on the Spyro soundtracks
Anonymous No.713377612 >>713377970 >>713378402 >>713384403 >>713385142
>>713374342 (OP)
Didn't he plagiarize a lot of his music?
Like Shadow's Theme was the start of the opening theme to The Virginian, Terra's theme and Terra's theme was from some other band too?
Anonymous No.713377657 >>713380109
>>713376307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EOoRSc89Hc

It doesn't get much better.
Anonymous No.713377876 >>713378778
>>713377191
VIII’s soundtrack is a particular standout of his, yeah.

The single best song he ever composed was Dancing Mad however.
Anonymous No.713377970
>>713377612
There are a lot of examples. The main theme for FF2 sounds like the theme for Once Upon a Time in the West. He flat out just used the main theme from Laputa multiple times. Under the Rotting Pizza sounds like a song from Nausicaa. And so on.

However, the line between homage and stealing is very different for Japanese composers. Mitsuda also used songs (rick roll and some Hisaishi songs). Siguyama was heavily influenced by western composers. Kondo flat out admitted to remixing a CD he found at a store for a lot of the early Mario/Zelda music. And so on.
Anonymous No.713377998 >>713378331
VI was a big departure. You could tell they decided to make full scale changing symphonies instead of the usual repeating pretty little song. VII was the perfect mix
Anonymous No.713378050 >>713378181 >>713378264 >>713378706 >>713379640 >>713380442 >>713380616 >>713388604
>his music sounds too good to be real
Its called "homaging" from real musicians because videogame music enthusiasts live in a bubble where recycled tropes impress them.

Videogame music is trash and will always be. Play your Mick Gordon walmart copies of metal while you are at it. Or some fake Hans Zimmer that's another mainstay you guys love (Bethesda, Halo, etc).
Anonymous No.713378138
>>713377191
His music sets the mood in most of the games. However, my point was that in at least half the games, the developers didn't use his music as well as they could. The pacing and staging of locations/cutscenes didn't fully use his songs as well as they could. FF8 is a notable exception because it was an example of them thinking about staging a lot better. And FF8, despite it having a lot of dumb writing, has some of the best scene composition/design in the series. Which was done by someone separate to the writers. One of the biggest mysteries is why they didn't continue using that person for later FF games.
Anonymous No.713378181
>>713378050
Anonymous No.713378264
>>713378050
Aight lil bro
Anonymous No.713378291 >>713384184 >>713385213
>>713374615
Masashi Hamauzu, followed by Junya Nakano.

Yoko Pianomura is fucking overrated.
Anonymous No.713378308
>>713376460
xc1, xc2, and xcx are some of the best soundtracks in video gaming. no faggy award show is necessary to arrive at this conclusion
Anonymous No.713378331
>>713377998
Uematsu is a rock musician at the end of the day, so once he became confident with his tech, he pivoted hard into prog rock and rock opera. He still continued to make soft songs in his career though. To Zanarkand was rather late in his career afterall.
Anonymous No.713378334 >>713378392 >>713378909 >>713380685
>>713376307
ENTER
Anonymous No.713378383
Mizuta > Hamauzu > Uematsu > Soken > Shimomura
Anonymous No.713378392 >>713379271
>>713378334
Mizuta deserves more work.
Anonymous No.713378402 >>713378603
>>713377612
Probably. It doesn't make it ok but if you look this deep into any composer you're bound to find some plagiarism. It's pretty easy to find the songs Kondo likely took "inspiration" to make the main Mario theme. There is enough spin on their songs to make them stand on their own merits, and make for good listening in games. I prefer that than everything being rigidly bound to plagiarism and copyright laws. Also the DK country theme and matoyas cave theme sound alike
Anonymous No.713378557 >>713378862 >>713379096
https://youtu.be/zRHiTjce9s0?si=R0-HitRdpufjaRYQ

https://youtu.be/9ZH6coTxDTo?si=AOenlFg8QPiBhHeb

https://youtu.be/ujrn-yfo8Ts?si=BhPZUpkULYT9iDHe
Anonymous No.713378561 >>713378768 >>713397606
>gets music stolen from by every 1990s JP videogame in existence
Anonymous No.713378603 >>713379047
>>713378402
the ending theme of a link to the past sounds a lot like the main theme of final fantasy
Anonymous No.713378627 >>713392249
>>713375402
which 16 bit music
Anonymous No.713378706
>>713378050
ok, put some music you consider good then. lets hear it
Anonymous No.713378768 >>713397606
>>713378561
Only moustache man seems to have aged.
Anonymous No.713378778 >>713378864 >>713379434
>>713377876
I can agree with dancing mad but I think people overlook some of his work because they just haven't played the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr9JA2i0HAs

>Create a song that is the opening theme of the game, the ending song, and can be sectioned off to be used as the bgm for specific important story cutscenes
Anonymous No.713378862
>>713378557
Aerith's theme in the Rebirth piano mini game is honestly one of the best arrangements of it
Anonymous No.713378864
>>713378778
he did that all the time, anon.
Anonymous No.713378909 >>713379271 >>713379295
>>713378334
I wish SE would give this man more work.
>Everything he touches in FFXI shows extreme soul and how much love he has for the game
>Drops some real fire in the FF13 OST
>Surprises us with some new sounds in SoP

I thought it was cool that they allowed guest composers to do the DLC for FF15, we got some really nice surprises from Mizuta and Mitsuda.
Anonymous No.713379047
>>713378603
I just looked it up and yeah it does sound similar. I think its the same bass chord progression, and similar cadence in the melody
Anonymous No.713379096 >>713388486
>>713378557
When it comes to VII remake, this is what stands out for me:

https://youtu.be/MdDOMPJYepk?si=xF0o0WaPUkVTGmiZ

https://youtu.be/FNQdltCRk8Y?si=OCi2krhDDGqPYsLW

https://youtu.be/YLHA3eLRzjA?si=mEDbmmwyQaCa1L3_

...while in OG

https://youtu.be/ZCNZMay1dE4?si=wDYB236SaHVmzO3d

https://youtu.be/0fLVAEazg1M?si=QbVm0GWU-wZaROqq

https://youtu.be/6ok91l9qOFE?si=i9TKi1f86oafUFZY
Anonymous No.713379271 >>713379680 >>713379938 >>713381319 >>713387954
>>713378392
>>713378909
>made all of the music for every XI expansion
my knees are kneeling on their own....
Anonymous No.713379295 >>713379434
>>713378909
same shit with FFX, if a track slaps there is a good chance he was the one who composed it. Same shit with FFXIV, his work on 1.0 is pure kino and it's a damn shame tons of these aren't used anymore. I mean shit just listen to that stuff this is pure nobuo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma2rRkE_OZI&list=OLAK5uy_kEBGgMaRYeoWeRFwqTnS1UdLS9-hUSxZM&index=9
Anonymous No.713379410
>>713374615
none of them
Yuzo Koshiro triumphs over all three
Anonymous No.713379434
>>713379295
mixed things up, was meant >>713378778
Anonymous No.713379640
>>713378050
People like this are guaranteed to have shit taste in music themselves. Listening to some mid range pop music or grunge crap. But think they're listening to something super obscure because they discovered it 20 years after it was new.

Actual people with taste just like a wide variety of things, regardless of how popular it is or isn't. Super well known songs like Sparkle from Tatsuro Yamashita is just as good as some lesser known song like Sleeping Princess or Silly Crush. And these all influenced the music you hear in video games. Some of them were even written by video game composers. Because, get this, not every video game composer is just a video game composer. Most of them work in multiple fields and get chosen to do video games because they were already known.
Anonymous No.713379680 >>713408405
>>713379271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ISSVI8JW2w

Don't sleep on Tanioka either, the few songs she worked on in XI were unbelievable, but yeah Mizuta what a legend.
Anonymous No.713379938
>>713379271
He also did Jack's game.
Anonymous No.713380109 >>713380696
>>713377657
Hell yeah man. Ululations from Beyond (Arrapago Reef) is one of my favorites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loUlVLLqdlM&pp=ygUWVWx1bGF0aW9ucyBmcm9tIGJleW9uZA%3D%3D
Anonymous No.713380346 >>713397632
>>713377542
Hell yeah bro
Those first three soundtracks are amazing. Wish I could find more of it out there
Anonymous No.713380442
>>713378050
The thing you're claiming that video game music composers do of just homaging existing music is what the composer of said homaged music also did. You think they just came up with it out of thin air? Music composition (and most other art) almost parallels invention in the way that they build off of other ideas. Now some composers straight up just steal and don't change much, which is not ok. But calling the music of Jeremy Soule fake Hans Zimmer is like calling Hans Zimmer fake Brahms, and then calling Brahms fake Beethoven. There's no end to it so just enjoy the music
Anonymous No.713380616
>>713378050
I’ve definitely noticed some zoomers only know music from video games and will only use that shit for reference. Like every dark ambient song online has some zoomer commenting that it sounds like silent hill. I listen to a lot of vgm but I always made sure to listen to β€œreal” music since I knew that composers always take stuff from non-vgm and will talk about their influences a lot of the time in interviews.
Anonymous No.713380685
>>713378334
sorry I guess I misremembered. It’s been a decade since I played
Anonymous No.713380696
>>713380109
I love how simple most of the songs are but they manage to capture the mood just perfectly.
Anonymous No.713380927 >>713381442 >>713387273
I was really blown away by how good the FF8 soundtrack is. I put off playing it for years and I was really missing out. Now I think it may actually be his best work.

https://youtu.be/bYtU1kOBWqI?feature=shared
Anonymous No.713381256
what's up
Anonymous No.713381301 >>713381641
Aeriths theme for me is a legendary soundtrack. Not sure if there is a sentimental element to it or it is good for even someone who has never played the game or knows who Aerith is

I loved on our way as well

https://youtu.be/QJaAJ2WMRoE?si=Zu7J9HxCdGfHWqxb
Anonymous No.713381319 >>713381658
>>713379271
>The solemnness of the Wings of the Goddess ost
>The energy and mystery of exploration from Adoulin
>Then he is tasked with creating a song for what is technically the final boss of the game, of the entire MMO's storyline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1i-bS7gZq8

I don't know who composed the ending theme for rhapsodies but that one kills me too.
Anonymous No.713381442
>>713380927
Ive been listening to this for years but never played 8 for some reason. 7 and 7 rebirth are my top 5 games of all time so not sure why i never got around to 8

https://youtu.be/KMm7kayDeTU?si=bbQxyJJxBuYaQXXn
Anonymous No.713381641 >>713382176
>>713381301
It's good on its own but it wouldn't reach goat status without the story of Aerith behind it. It's what gives it the calm and yet tragic longing feeling that few other tracks are able to match
Anonymous No.713381658
>>713381319
>I don't know who composed the ending theme for rhapsodies but that one kills me too.
Mizuta did. It's an arrangement of the Vana'diel March, the first song you hear when you start the game.
Anonymous No.713382132 >>713383032
I liked rebirths arrangements of the osts except maybe mako reactor
Anonymous No.713382176
>>713381641
The story for Aeris, in the original game, isn't that great. I heard the song long before playing the game and recognized it was an excellent theme. And the theme (as well as the main FF7 overworld theme) actually don't fit the tone of the game they're in or the context of where they're used. They're like songs from The Rocketeer or Glory being used in a different movie like Gattaga or Blade Runner.
Anonymous No.713382213
>>713376249
he eventually learned it though, there are no shortcuts
Anonymous No.713383032 >>713383729 >>713405047
>>713382132
I like the dog theme
Anonymous No.713383729 >>713385207
>>713383032
that was weird
Anonymous No.713384040 >>713384192
https://youtu.be/lhb2ePyiIB4?si=w5N1Nj5ZcPSLrdQW
Anonymous No.713384184
>>713374342 (OP)
It’s so varied that’s the thing, he can capture a billion different atmospheres
>>713374615
Sega team in it’s heyday
>>713378291
FFX had a fire ost
Anonymous No.713384192 >>713384378
>>713384040
Zack did it first btw
Anonymous No.713384378
>>713384192
who
Anonymous No.713384403 >>713385525 >>713385803 >>713393608
>>713377612
What do you think it is when 'rap artists' do when they 'sample' or remix.
Oh it's different because...
Anonymous No.713384897
>>713374342 (OP)
massive plagiarist. everything
https://youtu.be/oV0ZMBn9a6o?si=Qv5lSVDeA1dzZdKP&t=493
Anonymous No.713385142 >>713385460
>>713377612
Even if that's the case, he still managed to make masterpieces like Dancing Mad or Zanarkand
Anonymous No.713385207 >>713411274
>>713383729
that's like a big part of FF, just weird stuff happening alongside world threatening disasters
Anonymous No.713385213
>>713374615
For me, it's Yasuhisa Watanabe
>>713378291
Hamauzu is outstanding.
Anonymous No.713385402 >>713386396
>>713374615
>Koji Kondo
Most of his most memorable tracks use stolen melodies.
Anonymous No.713385460 >>713385713 >>713385829 >>713402121
>>713385142
>Dancing Mad
I'm so sorry anon.. yeah.. that one too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxBQPcfFJnM
Anonymous No.713385503 >>713388625 >>713388928
>>713374615
are Junichi Masuda / Go Ichinose unpopular picks?
Anonymous No.713385525 >>713386179 >>713412716
>>713384403
Usually when they sample music, they put it in the fucking credits.
Anonymous No.713385713
>>713385460
oh.. wel.. there's still Zanarkand, right?
Anonymous No.713385803
>>713384403
rap "artists"
Anonymous No.713385829
>>713385460
What about the main theme to Brawl?
Anonymous No.713385935
>>713374615
Grant motha-fuckin Kirkhope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWCB8AUiP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buOhUGJ9Pvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxEausPgUdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Jl3F2e4B0
Anonymous No.713386179 >>713386474 >>713387073
>>713385525
Oh that makes it ok to rip off other people's music then doesn't it, because they direct people to who they're ripping off.
That makes it ok now.
Anonymous No.713386396
>>713385402
Same with a lot of other artists named in this thread. As posts above have pointed out some examples.
Anonymous No.713386474 >>713387073
>>713386179
Ask the poster what his genetic phenotype is and his answer begins to make sense.
Anonymous No.713386485
Yousuke Yasui, just give it to me straight. How much did he steal? Nobody ever brings him up despite making 5+ iconic osts
Anonymous No.713386738 >>713386896 >>713387408
western composers unable to compete. not even jeremy svol can match his genius
Anonymous No.713386896 >>713388052
>>713386738
Yes they can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yakOBIoyoik&list=RDyakOBIoyoik&start_radio=1
Anonymous No.713387012
>>713374342 (OP)
The music of FFVI, VII, and VIII was peak Uematsu.
Anonymous No.713387073 >>713387154
>>713386179
>giving credit to people is wrong
>but taking without acknowledging sources and claiming its your own original IP is *POP* A-okay!
Retarded faggot.

>>713386474
I'm white, nigger-cunt.
Anonymous No.713387154 >>713387490
>>713387073
>Stealing is ok as long as you name who the original owners are
Anonymous No.713387273
>>713380927
Uematsu loves progressive rock and FF8 is full of it
Anonymous No.713387353
>>713374342 (OP)
It's all AI
Anonymous No.713387408
>>713386738
Fable blows him out of the fucking water, and that's just one game.

https://youtu.be/c7Axe5wU33k?si=NF0UxJqccTiM_Q92
Anonymous No.713387490 >>713388146
>>713387154
>I posted a funny reaction image
>this means my argument debunks the law
Fucking stupid as all hell.
Anonymous No.713387793
>>713374342 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB4Mj31I8tY

"What's the baddest progressive rock band?"
"Genesis."
Anonymous No.713387954
>>713379271
>Parasite Eve II
Mizuta's come a long way from that awful soundtrack. His music for FFXIII-2, Lightning Returns, and Stranger of Paradise was absolutely amazing. He's one of those composers that gets better over time.
Anonymous No.713388052 >>713389135
>>713386896
E33 has like two or three REALLY GOOD tracks and then the rest is kind of the same shade of tragic opera piano with the occasional electric guitar solo
Anonymous No.713388110 >>713404546
Uematsu is the undisputed GOAT in my opinion. nobody even comes close.
Anonymous No.713388143 >>713388427
My god clears.
Anonymous No.713388146
>>713387490
>Fucking stupid as all hell
Shieeeeeet
Anonymous No.713388427 >>713389125
>>713388143
XI OST had unrivaled ambiance, it's a tragedy that FFXI has a foot in the grave because we won't get more out of him for it.
Anonymous No.713388486 >>713389582
>>713379096
good choices for remake, though i'm not sure if nobuo did all of those, certain tracks were done by different artists
Anonymous No.713388604
>>713378050
It's an easy paycheck for mid tier musicians that never would've made it anywhere else. you build a decent following of nerd losers too.
Anonymous No.713388625 >>713388857
>>713385503
they are tainted by Pokemon but they are genunine good, say what you want but sans gen 9 Pokemon has amazing music.
Anonymous No.713388693
> Fable
Anonymous No.713388824 >>713388942 >>713389004 >>713389232
>mogs every Japanese composer in your path
Nothing personel kid
Anonymous No.713388857
>>713388625
Agreed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfARFF9S5Jg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsFeMcUWBeE
Anonymous No.713388928
>>713385503
Are they? I mean, GSC soundtrack might be one of the best Japanese OSTs ever made
Anonymous No.713388942 >>713389126
>>713388824
can't do battle themes
Anonymous No.713389004 >>713389052
>>713388824
shame his career is over
Anonymous No.713389052 >>713389126
>>713389004
what did he do?
Anonymous No.713389125 >>713389251
>>713388427
I endeavored to compose songs that wouldn't cause the player to want to turn off the music because they were sick of it
Anonymous No.713389126
>>713388942
Oh yeah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NnAI-S0Sgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5o0YQjfHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNKOLgbbhs
>>713389052
Got metoo'd by some crazy cunt
Anonymous No.713389135
>>713388052
I don't think there's a single track I don't like among the game, it's all so good. Currently this is my favourite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIs_82VxUHE&list=RDVIs_82VxUHE&start_radio=1
Anonymous No.713389232
>>713388824
Heberling mogs
Anonymous No.713389251
>>713389125
Ok fine, but compare that to literally every song from every expansion.
Anonymous No.713389582
>>713388486
>though i'm not sure if nobuo did all of those
I think he did only a few tracks for remake, like
https://youtu.be/h0AcvqihLgM?si=nBMhNaFCYtjiqBjz

I just listed some of my favorite tracks from both OG and remake; I did not look for Uematsu's music specifically.
Anonymous No.713389632
>>713374615
for me it's Hitoshi Sakimoto
Anonymous No.713389638 >>713389874
>when the kino reaches the maximum level
https://youtu.be/1B0Rpun12-U?t=595
i like this track more than the original, its great to see what an already legendary score sounds like when not held back by technical limitations
Anonymous No.713389874 >>713390232
>>713389638
the first time the main battle theme kicked in gave me goosebumps. It made my pubes tingle
Anonymous No.713389961
>>713374615
for me it's takahiro unisuga, shoji meguro and ryota kozuka
Anonymous No.713390232
>>713389874
thats a good one too
appreciated how the remake would tease and edge you on certain familar tracks before fully unleashing it all
https://youtu.be/hgg66Amc-sk?t=320
Anonymous No.713390497
This is true hype kino

https://youtu.be/zRHiTjce9s0?si=aXMU18YppP3yxWUy

I think the only other track that compares for me is stand your ground from ff15
Anonymous No.713391380
> Aeriths theme
Anonymous No.713392249
>>713378627
all of it
Anonymous No.713392386 >>713392894 >>713393403
I don't understand why he stuck to midi or whatever weird soundfont FF7 through 9 had when games like Albert Odyssey were pulling shit like this off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-SFIEhoKT0&list=PL1D1180CB43FBD223&index=9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HfQ3SfDNTg&list=PL1D1180CB43FBD223&index=10

Albert Odyssey blows a shitton of it's contemporaries out of the water with its OST.
Anonymous No.713392894
>>713392386
Because it sounds good that's all that matters.
Anonymous No.713393403
>>713392386
i remember reading something about how he deliberately lowered the sound quality when making FF7 because it made the game load faster
he could've done more but held back so that the already massive game wouldn't brick itself
Anonymous No.713393445 >>713393757 >>713393960 >>713394057 >>713396510 >>713397042 >>713399348 >>713405150
It's insane how much the fame and respect of so many video game composers has relied on the fact that your average gamer that likes them has zero knowledge of any jazz standards, classical music, progressive rock, jazz fusion, neo folk, dark ambience, or basically any music from the 70s or 80s beyond whatever they heard playing on the radio or random stores. I'm not saying these people are talentless by any means, but there is a reason why a lot of them were quite literally just random people with virtually no background in music (or any at all) just basically programming a very primitive drum machine or sequencer and coming up with simplistic tunes. It isn't because they were super geniuses with immense hidden talent. It is because they were apeing well regarded acts at the time and got away with it, especially in Japan. So much of the music people worship from Sega is just T-Square and Cassiopeia and Weather Report and other jazz fusion acts tweaked a bit. The Final Fantasy music people are obsessed with is often just blatant ripoffs of instrumental passages of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer or Genesis or other progressive rock bands, to the point to where mr can do nothing wrong has even admitted Keith Emerson was a major influence. Dancing Mad quite literally just sounds like the keyboards of a ELP song.

The horror game tracks people like are often just primitive dark ambient or black metal songs. In the case of something like Silent Hill for example, they heavily rely on samples that are often not even edited slightly or barely edited. Some of the songs people are obsessed with from Capcom like from DMC1 or RE4 with the save theme are basically just lifted from a pre-existing dark ambient song and almost completely unaltered.

It's actually a little disgusting. Video game music is like DJ music. Video game composers are like Daft Punk. They can just copy and sample and steal from things and get full credit because the target audience is too retarded to care
Anonymous No.713393608
>>713384403
>What do you think it is when 'rap artists'
I don't think about rappers at all. Why do you?
Anonymous No.713393757
>>713393445
skim read and all i got was you being ass mad over music not being 100% original and passed down by god himself
Anonymous No.713393960 >>713396510 >>713415414
>>713393445
And before you say something like, "oh but Keith Emerson would use classical songs..." ELP would literally call the songs what they came from. Pictures in an Exhibition was still called that. Romeo and Juliet was still called that. When King Crimson adapts music from other acts, they acknowledge it. All these video game composers that were copying random 20s and 80s bands never acknowledged their influences until they were well established and popular, and would never ever actually say something like how they copied a song. Even one of Uemetsu's more recent songs for a mobile game was actually just a blatant copy of the apocalypse section from Genesis' Supper's Ready.
Anonymous No.713394057 >>713394309
>>713393445
i sort of agree with you. the problem you're forgetting here is context. hipster rage all you want about prog and fusion acts not getting their flowers amongst 90's vidya fans but they have no context or emotional attachment to tarkus or heavy weather. you never killed a boss or watched some emotional betrayal in a cutscene to larks tongue.
Anonymous No.713394309 >>713395454
>>713394057
Everyone is influenced by something. I don't expect people to just endlessly tell people their influences. My issue is specifically how common it was in Japan for devs to just blatantly steal, copy, parody etc... existing things in the 90s and get away with it because the laws for that sort of thing were just extremely loose at the time so they knew they could do it. Friendly reminder that SNK ACTUALLY thought they could get away with this.

https://youtu.be/ciGgw7goD7k?si=CCy8ABudIn-uooPS&t=50

And this is just a single example, and honestly not even that bad of one. I would argue some of the FF stuff is way worse.
Anonymous No.713394943
>its impossible to cry in just 3 notes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVq-IlSe6CA
Anonymous No.713395454
>>713394309
>literal hundreds of original SNK songs
>one song copies a pop melody for 30 seconds
wow how dare they
Anonymous No.713396326
Anonymous No.713396510
>>713393445
>>713393960
what is the point in you saying this, what are you trying to gain, if you trying to convince people that the old jrpgs music has elements of plagiarism then we already knew that, and no one really cares. Go bother someone else
Anonymous No.713397042
>>713393445
>It's insane how much the fame and respect of so many video game composers has relied on the fact that your average gamer that likes them has zero knowledge of any jazz standards, classical music, progressive rock, jazz fusion, neo folk, dark ambience, or basically any music from the 70s or 80s beyond whatever they heard playing on the radio or random stores.
Or, more likely, the composers know all those things and like them and are imitating/using them in their own music. Or, like in the case of some composers, they are some of the biggest people in those scenes and just did some video game music as well. This is like claiming "Danny Elfman's film music sucks because it's just imitating other stuff!" But he has his own band and popularized some of the standards in the 80s and 90s himself, outside of his film compositions. So he's "copying" himself and his fellow band mates.

Didn't even bother to read the rest of what is going to be your typical wanna be audiophile rant.
Anonymous No.713397438
Any Sakurababros?
https://youtu.be/-hsQDpCqxIg
Anonymous No.713397606
>>713378768
>>gets music stolen
>>713378561
Takeshi Itoh composed the Gran Turismo 1 and 2 soundtrack, and the "GT theme", Moon Over the Castle, also known as Knight's Song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stqHH5sx3Nk
Anonymous No.713397632
>>713380346
Copeland scored film soundtracks too, and obviously there's his work with The Police
Anonymous No.713399348
>>713393445
Good video game music was born from the limitations that they had to deal with at the time. Video game music nowadays is mostly garbage.
Even Uematsu thinks this.
Anonymous No.713399715
Anonymous No.713400917
Gusty Garden Galaxy, all's I'm saying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6rZkej57cU
Anonymous No.713401126
>>713374342 (OP)
OST for fantasian was garbage
Anonymous No.713401223 >>713401332
>>713374615
koji kondo wouldn't even be in a top 100 composers.
Anonymous No.713401332 >>713401423
>>713401223
stop being retarded, for all of us babe
Anonymous No.713401423 >>713401902
>>713401332
Deranged. Koji Kondom is a garbage composer.
Anonymous No.713401809
>>713374615
Sawano.
Anonymous No.713401902
>>713401423
why
Anonymous No.713402121 >>713407478
>>713385460
There's really not much similarity between this and Dancing Mad other than the general mood and instrumentation, the progression and individual notes are not even similar. The intro reminds me of another vidya song that I can't remember the name of though
Anonymous No.713402193
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NQc2dDWdxE
Anonymous No.713402962
>>713374615
ZUN is the only true answer. The guy alone made it so comiket is full of indies covering his music. Not to forget reitaisai which is huge event just for Touhou.
Anonymous No.713403092
Imo we should separate music that was made with hardware limitations in mind from stuff that wasn't.

https://youtu.be/4Qp0_NE8M1c?si=O0H7pX1a0JnCBtkc
Anonymous No.713403592 >>713403665 >>713404179 >>713404447
Anonymous No.713403665
>>713403592
me on the bottom left
Anonymous No.713403957
FF9 has his best work tho.
Anonymous No.713404179
>>713403592
I recognize Uematsu, Shimomura, Mizuta, Soken, and Kitase
I don't know the rest
Anonymous No.713404447
>>713403592
sokens not looking to hot bros..
Anonymous No.713404546 >>713404745
>>713388110
He battle themes for FF7-9 are amazing but the rest is fucking overrated. He's overrated and is only worshipped cause he did the music for the most popular JRPG series.
Anonymous No.713404745 >>713405106
>>713404546
Nah. He's loved because his music was better than the games it appeared in. And most of his best songs aren't the battle themes. He is more well known because he wrote the music for one of the biggest gaming series. But his music is still the best thing about that series.
Anonymous No.713405047
>>713383032
BAU WAU WAU BAU WAU WAU
Anonymous No.713405106 >>713405494
>>713404745
He's still overrated though. People always bang on about One Winged Angel, about how amazing that track is. I listened to it and it's fucking shite. It's really cartoony and video-gamey.

Mitsuda's Chrono Cross OST is much better than any FF OST.
Anonymous No.713405150
>>713393445
>like song
>wow this is nice
>NOOO YOU CAN'T LIKE THIS, YOU DON'T KNOW ENOUGH
end thyself
Anonymous No.713405217
>>713374615
koji kondo and it's not even fucking close
Anonymous No.713405252 >>713405648 >>713410168
>>713374615
Whoever the guy was that wrote all of Sega's music back in the day.
Anonymous No.713405494
>>713405106
>this thing sucks because it's TOO POPULAR!
People do focus on a few overhyped songs. But you're then turning around and saying all his music sucks because of that. Which is just stupid. It would be like me saying John Williams sucks because I don't think Duel of the Fates is his best work. Which is the case.

Uematsu has hundreds of good songs. And a lot of them are underhyped ones like Serpent's Trench, Theme of Ur, Silence and Motion, Another World, etc.
Anonymous No.713405626
Anonymous No.713405648
>>713405252
Also the ones who wrote most of the Castlevania and Kirby music. The two main Kirby composers are still going strong. But the Castlevania ones are virtually unknown because they used pen names and left Konami when Konami went stupid.

Castlevania III still has one of the best OSTs ever written.
Anonymous No.713405790
Genuenly can't stand his music lol. When he isn't on the crew music is so much better it's unbelieveable. Every track he wrote sounds like constant clown horns
Anonymous No.713405878 >>713406135
> Whuddup bitches.
Anonymous No.713406135
>>713405878
*pokes your eye*
Anonymous No.713406520 >>713406715
Anonymous No.713406715
>>713406520
why is Aerith cheating on Zack?
Anonymous No.713406858 >>713407542
>>713374342 (OP)
wax on wax off
Anonymous No.713407478
>>713402121
Yeah usually people post Tarkus when slandering Dancing mad.
Anonymous No.713407542 >>713407596
>>713406858
what do you mean
Anonymous No.713407596
>>713407542
thats mr miyagi
Anonymous No.713407875
>>713374615
i dunno why nobody talks about sound horizon, all their tracks for the bravely series is great. wish they did more game soundtracks
Anonymous No.713408012
>>713375651
>Hiroki Kikuta
Anonymous No.713408405 >>713408529 >>713408985
>>713379680
This was so mindblowing for its time. You felt like you were an explorer in an endless frontier and this music was perfect. Bastok was also perfect. I legit feel bad for Sandoria and Windhurts bros as these two songs were GOATed.
Anonymous No.713408529
>>713408405
Ragnarok Online music is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DuvYC3zENI
Anonymous No.713408985
>>713408405
San'd oria had ronfaure song at least. FFXI is full of good songs, damn i miss vanadiel and its beautiful detailed world.
Anonymous No.713409473 >>713409636 >>713409664
Anonymous No.713409636 >>713410867
>>713409473
Why do you keep spamming your flop here?
Anonymous No.713409664 >>713410867
>>713409473
kys nigger
Anonymous No.713409967
>>713374615
Jeremy Soule for Secret of Evermore
Anonymous No.713410168
>>713405252
SO TAKE ME BACK IN TIIIIIIIIIIIME
TO ANOTHER WORLD
WHERE YOU CAN BE MIIIIIIIINE
Anonymous No.713410276 >>713415827
>>713374615
Kondo for me because of BotW Hyrule Castle. It was pretty good in Tears too, and I liked the way dungeon music would get more layers on it as you progressed.
Anonymous No.713410329 >>713410503
>>713374615
Shogo Sakai
Anonymous No.713410503
>>713410329
based, mother 3 is the best vgm ever written
Anonymous No.713410867
>>713409636
>>713409664
im the op, i am bumping the thread, i posted tifa as well. This is a thinly veiled music recommendation thread
Anonymous No.713411274
>>713385207
Feel like FF7R team (which is also FFXIII team) hit that part really good. FF7R has some real weird and whacky shit going on and it makes it more engaging. Barret is incredibly funny, the gilgamesh parts are super fun, the whole minigames and so on.

The last 3 vr battles are dogshit though.
Anonymous No.713412621
>>713374615
Dave Wise.
Anonymous No.713412716
>>713385525
You have to clear the sample with the original artist, this takes a shitload of time and money. A lot of rappers don't actually bother to do this when they sample and they get fucked when the original artist sues. For example, Sting owns 85% of royalties from Juice Wrld's song because of the sample he used.

Some producers also chop up and change the sample so much that it barely resembles the original song. They will only pay if you can prove they sampled your song. Pretty fucked, but that's how it goes.
Anonymous No.713412809 >>713418987
>>713374615
Kenichi Matsubara for this masterpiece alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOWUSsFar-s
Anonymous No.713412974 >>713413857
>>713375651
Vagrant story soundtrack sooo good
Anonymous No.713413234
>>713376245
Both of them phoned it in hard for Front Mission: Gun Hazard's soundtrack
Anonymous No.713413857
>>713412974
i never played that game, misses the train when it was released
Anonymous No.713413985
>>713374342 (OP)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LWpNWWXNy5I&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD
Anonymous No.713414151 >>713414854 >>713418108 >>713420671
>>713374342 (OP)
It's kinda crazy how he hasn't been topped by anyone in the rpg or even the greater video game space.
Others have had hits here and there, but the sheer breadth of this man's work is unmatched.
Shame he retired as early as he did.
Anonymous No.713414194 >>713417786
nishiura
Anonymous No.713414854
>>713414151
He retired from full OSTs after Fantasian
Anonymous No.713415414
>>713393960
>ELP would literally call the songs what they came from.
Why lie?
https://youtu.be/VIKm9rUWrCI?si=34hu_C6Vh9Ws2Bar&t=1
https://youtu.be/G-_AhJXCi20?si=KyydPBY_bJmvHovr
Anonymous No.713415827
>>713410276
wasnt him dumb dumb
Anonymous No.713417786
>>713414194
who
Anonymous No.713418108
>>713414151
>It's kinda crazy how he hasn't been topped by anyone in the rpg or even the greater video game space.
Many people would say otherwise. Some already have in this thread. But Uematsu himself says he's not as good as someone like Sugiyama. It may be just Japanese modesty. But he's on record saying so.
>Others have had hits here and there, but the sheer breadth of this man's work is unmatched.
Others have done more than he has. Including Yoko and the Kirby composers.
Anonymous No.713418987
>>713412809
This is the best version of bloody tears.
Anonymous No.713419061
>>713374342 (OP)
Almost all video game music sucks, but at least it's better than Hans Zimmer
Anonymous No.713419869
>>713375128
belated f(ourth)pbp
Anonymous No.713420671
>>713414151
>I've only played FF

He's overrated you spaz. He's been topped by Mitsuda many times.
Anonymous No.713422571
>>713374342 (OP)
I will never forgive him for making this piece of shit.

https://youtu.be/WWtpAzbEnc8?si=QaVWJXnqv2Y7liBG
Anonymous No.713423951
>>713377191
Fell asleep to the entire FF8 soundtrack the other night, it was kino

https://youtu.be/BAzgI27JW2M
Anonymous No.713425853
>>713374342 (OP)
>too good to be real
That's because it isn't. Uematsu plagiarized most of his well-known "work" from western geniuses. He's just as bad as Kenji Yamamoto, but he's more famous and his audience aren't very music-savvy, so he got away with it.

Final Fantasy 6 Dancing Mad = The Burning Sword Of Capua by Triumvirat
Final Fantasy 6 Dancing Mad = Toccata And Fugue by Bach
Final Fantasy 6 Dancing Mad = Tarkus by Emerson, Lake, & Palmer
Final Fantasy 6 Dancing Mad = Miracle Sleeper by Dream Theater
Final Fantasy 7 One Winged Angel = The Rite Of Spring by Stravinsky
Final Fantasy 7 Boss (guitar) = Jailbait by MotΓΆrhead
Final Fantasy 7 Boss (guitar) = School's Out by Alice Cooper
Final Fantasy 7 Boss (keys) = Foreplay by Boston
Final Fantasy 7 Battle theme = Blue Rondo Γ  La Turk by Dave Brubeck
Final Fantasy Series Main Theme = Let My Love Open The Door by Pete Townshend
Final Fantasy Series Main Theme = Neverending Story's The Auryn
Final Fantasy 4 Airship Theme = Neverending Story's Happy Flight
Final Fantasy 5 Spreading Grand Wings = Neverending Story's Happy Flight
Final Fantasy 9 Airship Theme = Neverending Story's Happy Flight
Final Fantasy 5 Prologue = Neverending Story's Moonchild
Final Fantasy 7 Anxious Heart = Spacelab by Kraftwerk
Final Fantasy 7 Turks Theme = Neverending Story's Swamps Of Sadness
Final Fantasy 6 Boss = Journey From Mariabronn by Kansas
Final Fantasy 6 Locke Theme = Back To The Future's Main Theme
Final Fantasy 6 Shadow Theme = The Virginian by Percy Faith
Final Fantasy 7 Shinra Theme = Red by King Crimson
Final Fantasy 7 Shinra Theme = The Running Man's Main Theme
Final Fantasy 4 Melody Of Lute = Prelude No. 1 by Bach
Final Fantasy 7 Electric De Chocobo = Wipe Out by Surfaris
Final Fantasy 8 Dollet Demo = The Rock by Hans Zimmer

Among many others that I've forgotten. It's so typical of an asian to take credit for White innovation