Thread 713385014

Wait, so he was just right about everything? Why forcome couldn't I take his side? Fuck Azura.

Todd didn't let you be evil until fallout 3

>>713385090
OP just said he thinks nerevarine is the villain though

>>713385014 (OP)
Giving the entire continent super aids is pretty bad

are people that think dagoth ur is based and true fucking zoomers that only know him from youtube shorts and tiktoks or something?
he's obviously completely fucking mental, he's literally just utterly insane. he spreads fucking corprus for fuck sake

>>713385487
What's so bad about having Corprus?

>>713385487
nooo but le demiurge

>>713385487
>driving out the mongrel dogs of the empire from skyrim
:D
>driving out the mongrel dogs of the empire... from morrowind
>:()
Why is the TES community like this?

>>713385487
desperate times call for desperate measures

>>713385487
>pushes humanity (mer-inity) to invent a miracle cure which, when combined with corprus specifically, makes you stronger, immune to all disease, and unaging forever after one dose, with zero drawbacks
All planned.

>>713385712
It's more because Dagoth Ur's brand of freeing his country also involves transforming the continent's entire population into musical zombies who are at worst completely braindead monstrosities and at best schizophrenic musical anteaters

>>713385014 (OP)
if he had a master-style join ending what would it be

>>713387118
maybe being fully corprused is fun, you can't really complain about something until you've tried it

>>713385014 (OP)
so is the nerevar in morrowind actually the real deal, or did he just scum out the terms of the prophecy well enough?

dagothfags be like
>waow i wish i was him...

>>713388192
I sound like this and want to look like this

>>713385014 (OP)
He's mad anon. He just has good intentions but his way is madness.

>>713385014 (OP)
The only thing he was right about was the tribunal committing foul murder.

>>713388106
the whole point is that it's left to your interpretation

>>713385014 (OP)
He is literally a monster now due to the tribunal's CHIMpout. The only way to "fix" him is to reverse the CHIMtism by helping mommy azura.

>>713388192
Prooooooh :DDD

>>713388106
I think the intention was for it to be unclear, but the actual implications of setting and story paths don't actually fit the intent.
The ability to skip half the prophecy at 50 reputation and the ability to skip it all through the back path imply that your only relevant power is being doom-driven, and the prophecy is an afterthought.

>>713385014 (OP)
Because morrowind and all TES after it are RPGs in name only. It doesn't matter if you are a master assassin or thief, you are the savior good guy and you will like it.

>>713389804
No TES game is a RPG by that standard. They're all just dungeon crawlers. You need to be a dialogue focused sex simulator like Baldur's Gay by your logic.

>>713385014 (OP)
I can't take him seriously ever since the song

>>713388192
looks like they are having a blast

>>713388192
More of a percussion man myself.

The Dunmer see family, tribe, house, and are tied together only by the Tribunal. They don't see nations like the Imperials do, Morrowind is lines on a map not a political reality. Dagoth Ur as some kind of Dunmer nationalist is such a retarded meme, he's just like everyone else and has his own version of what a traditional Dunmer is and like everyone else his version excludes a ton of Dunmer tribes or houses that have always been there.

No, he's just a madman that wants to turn everything into an extension of himself by spreading corprus everywhere

>>713385014 (OP)
He wasn't right about anything kek

>>713385579
you become ugly

>>713385014 (OP)
>dude what if we became spooky niggerman monsters and just dreamed in our goon cave all day
>also fuck n'wahs or something
What was he right about exactly?

>>713389971
>No TES game is a RPG by that standard.
Daggerfall had multiple endings

>>713393546
That Almalexia is a backstabbing whore, vivec is an egotistical brat who loves to pretend he’s an all knowing mystic, and sotha sil convinces himself he does good for his people while hiding away from the world in his secret tard cave.

>>713394030
>tribunal bad so you should join my goon hivemind inside a volcano and have your face caved in o algo
Why not just support the CHADpire instead then?

Why do some anons claim that Dagoth knew that TES is basically a gnostic false reality? He never mentions it in his dialog, nor in the document laying out his plans. I'd say that if you can prove that he is waging war on the false reality then he's objectively good, the optics of coprus being weird be damned.

>>713395521
It's that when he was flinged back to nirn from death there is an idea that he kinda realized chim but ultimately began to believe he was godhead/the dreamer instead of just one it's machinations.

>>713394404
>Why not just support the CHADpire instead then?
The SIMPire is a globohomo analogue, which makes it gay and lame.

>>713387118
How did he even come up with a disease so precise. Fauci had some top of the line laboratories and scientists and could only make a fruity flavored flu

>>713395521
>>713395794
I’ve always kinda thought about in the sense of someone doing a complex math problem, used the wrong formulas/broke some mathematical rules but still got the answer correct. The end point is there but the understanding on how he got it was wrong.

>>713396061
he is a god you n'wah

>>713385014 (OP)
>Wait, so he was just right about everything?
Except for corprus, yes.

>>713396061
heh that's a funny edit

>>713385487
He's the Sheogorath for hipsters.

>>713395521
I think that's reading too much into it. Dagoth Ur's dreams don't liberate his followers from a false reality, they turn them into slaves and an extension of his will. He might BELIEVE he is doing good, but that doesn't mean much when he's literally insane and twisted the Heart's divine gift by creating Corprus. He's just as much of a false god as the Tribunal is, ironically.

>>713390040
What a grand and intoxicating innocence!

>>713388106
yeah

>>713389145
I dont' like the idea of paying for a complete piece of media and being told I have to figure out the story for myself. You arent forced to cook your own fucking food at a restaurant, or help reset the roller coaster after you pay to get on.

>>713390040
>What's wrong sweet Nerevar, can't handle these grand and intoxicating grooves?

>>713385487
He's wrong for the right reasons. The mongrel dogs of the Empire SHOULD be driven from Morrowind but giving people cosmic aids is probably not the way to go about it

>>713385487
>makes you strong, immortal and never have a worry again in your life
It's a blessing.

>>713398739
that's because you have low iq

>>713400472
>tfw your IQ is so low you transcend the need for intelligence and reality bends itself to fulfill your own retardation
Achieving chim is like inhaling enough whippits until your brain becomes anti matter

>>713398739
>I don't like to think

Well that's one way to out yourself as a drooling retard

>>713395842
It is the late Roman Empire if it decided slavery was icky.

>>713385014 (OP)
I killed him. He is no more.

>>713401589
It's actually the british empire with Roman aesthetics

>>713396061
kek

>>713385090
except you cant join the Enclave because that would be a heckin fascism or something

>>713407792
you do kind of though

Anon who asked for mod recs a few weeks ago here. Finally kicked Dagoth Ur's ass.

About to do a second run with Tamriel Rebuilt and Project Tamriel. Any other mods that could be fun? Tried to keep the first run largely vanilla so I'm more open to whatever neat or plain dumb fun shit's lurking out there. Definitely running Bardcraft at least.

>>713408903
i don't really pay attention to openmw mods so i can't help, sorry

>>713409727
It's all good in the hood my man

>>713408903
In my opinion TR and PT do a LOT of the heavy lifting so I don't run a lot of other game changers, but I'll list some of the smaller mods I've enjoyed having in my playthrough
>Stormrider expanded
>openmw-footsteps
>Dynamic Sounds
>Dynamic Actors
>Centered HUD
>Dynamic Reticle and subtle enemy health bar
>S3maphore + all the MUSE music
>NCGDMW lua
The rest is mostly texture replacers and grass mods which you can pick yourself based on preference
I've also heard good things about Beautiful Cities of Morrowind but I didn't bother installing it since I don't spend a lot of time in Vvardenfell

>>713407792
You can't join Autumn's moderate coup that just wants to control Eden, but you're free to join the actual fascist comically evil presidential AI that was too insane for Autumn to tolerate and kill everyone.

he wasn't right about everything, he came to all of the wrong conclusions
he wanted the world to become him and he wanted to infect the entire creation

>>713389804
No RPG allows you to join the bad people

>>713410923
XD?
Arcanum

>>713410923
FONV let's you join the NCR though

>>713410923
FONV let's you join Yes man though

>>713385014 (OP)
>ywn chill with the tribunal after having killed house dagoth and driven the mongrel dogs of the empire out yourself and restored the dunmer homeland
The Tribunal played themselves desu.

>>713396061
because a proper pandemic requires a virus that won't burn itself out by killing people.
it needs to be scary, incapacitating, but not very lethal.
maximum spread and scare value.

>>713407792
You can't join them because they want to kill everyone born in the wasteland including you, that's why you die if you drink water laced with their FEV virus and the game calls you a retard multiple times if you go along with Edens plan.

>>713385487
yes they're contrarian retards who haven't actually played the game

>>713385487
maybe let people enjoy things? if someone wants to become an ash abomination its their business chud, it's 3E427

>>713385014 (OP)
>kirkbride, why did you make an extremely racist game?
>todd did it
>oh, based
And then everyone clapped.

>>713395521
People have a bizarre view of TES metaphysics, it is not a false Gnostic reality, the Gnostic reality in case of TES is real. There is not a mechanism by which you escape Gnostic reality in TES because there is nothing beyond it, if anything on a substrate above it is worse because that is where Anu the dreamers tragedy happened. In case of TES going deeper is the solution, breaking down a new reality on a substrate below.

>>713408903
baller robes, bud

>>713411684
Kirkbride would probably say the dark elves get what they deserved, Morrowind's ending is an slowmo engineered catastrophe for the dunmer race and further cements the empire over their affairs.

>>713395521
Also Dagoth Ur is not cognizant of how Aurbis functions, but he is instinctively Sharmat.
>There is no true symbolism of the center. The Sharmat will believe there is. He will feel that he can cause years of exuberance from sitting in the sacred, when really no one can leave that state and cause anything more but strife.
>The Sharmat sleeps at the center. He cannot bear to see it removed, the world of reference. This is the folly of the false dreamer. This is the amnesia of dream, or its power, or its circumvention. This is the weaker magic and it is barbed in venom.
Sharmat sleeps in the "center" which is his own personal perception of the tower as per aurbical structure as described in sermon 21. Sharmat is "sleeping" in a way that he does not see anything beyond his dream so he thinks that his dream is the only one and encompasses everything.
That is to say that in the current state of Dagoth Ur he does not realize that through corprus he is merely incorporating other individuals into his solipsistic perception. His end goal is to effectively eventually trap everyone including the Gods in his isolated self centered dream, even though he is not even fully aware of it because in his perception he sees only his own dream and he thinks he is correct. He does not understand that the very act of locking the minds of his followers within his paradigm is what makes him wrong.

>>713410647
Grabbing these. Huge thanks, anon. Fuckin excited to get started.

>>713411727
Gracias. Maybe next time Neloth won't be such a fucking cheapskate.

>>713399556
>makes you shizophrenic

>>713411293
The Enclave has no idea you weren't born in a vault.

>>713408903
>with Tamriel Rebuilt and Project Tamriel
Make sure you get Skyrim: Home of the Nords, for one. I quite like Doors of Oblivion, but make sure you get the upscaler patch

What's happening in Morrowind at the time of Skyrim?

>>713413109
got fucked by argonians, vvardenfell blew up
house redoran took over and is now reforming morrowind together with restored daedra worship

>>713413109
Vvardenfell got nuked by landfall, Nords welcomed the refugees and gave them solstheim, dark elves overstay their welcome as refugees and become slum residents. Mainland morrowind keeps on trucking, just with more magma and less greenery.

>>713413547
Landfall "happens" at the end of time, anon. You're getting your events mixed up

>>713413687
IIRC the rogue moon boom was called "canonical" landfall at the time by Kirkbride and Peterson on the old BGS forums but it's been forever so maybe I'm full of shit. Definitely seems to go against "boring and therefore wrong"

>>713413687
>>713413784
kirkbride is obsessed with the idea of as above so below, or archetypical echoes
landfall of vvardenfell is echo of how he wants the universe to also end with a landfall
an apocalypse after which people are reduced to an even shittier living but as a resolution from this calamity new truth is figured out
Morrowind right now is renovating and reinvigorating, reclamations and redoran are actually regaining strength and not being decadent etc.

>>713405226
>>713401589
It's literally just modern day USA, it even has its own glowniggers

>>713413784
You could be right, I'm not going to claim I've ever been to the forums, but this is the first I've heard Baar Dau's impact being called Landfall.

>>713414220
Even then I think >>713414035 has the better take on it. Seems like the TES style answer, too. Monkey-truth.

>>713411714
>>713412018
So what, he's just a plain undead too then?

>>713387075
There is no cure retard

>>713414387
Dagoth Ur is not undead. He is a "wraith" who is "dreaming" in reverse, and through the Heart his form gets projected onto Nirn hence why he is immortal. If heart is severed he can no longer manifest.
This is also explained in the sermons.

>>713385487
zoomers are against anything that shows the white man dominating

>>713414646
Yeah I get that but isn't that somewhat contradictory to what was said

>>713414628
It removes all the negative effects while keeping the positives.
So you're right, it's better than a cure.

>>713414628
What do you call removing all the negative health conditions on someone?

>>713414852
If you do not remove the underlying condition, treating. Curing involves completely nullifying it even though IRL diseases don't really have positives often

>>713385487
N'wah hands typed this

>>713414951
Nigga I'm surprised your Corprus-mangled stumps can even type at all

>>713385712
>driving out the subhumans from rightfully conquered lands
this is good
>driving out the Akatosh's chosen people from the land of cowardly traitors.
This is bad

Seriously, this isn't rocket science.

>>713414810
It only worked on you. Everyone else he tried it on died horribly.

>>713415016
How did these chosen people become become subhumans between two games?

>>713415016
Empire was already shite by morrowind, you literally have the single most important being in the Empire history descend from the heavens, come to your face and say "this sucks, burn it down"

>>713410923
Nigga you literally join the emperor's secret police, pedaling Moon Sugar in the Khajiit community while fighting against the local liberation movement of a colonized people. You are the bad guy in Morrowind

>>713415130
Peddling crack to cats doesn't count, they and their ancestors have been snorting since they've been 2 so I'm sure it's just regular sugar to them

>>713414737
What is contradictory
Voryn Dagoth wanted solution for Chimer problems, he got enamoured and corrupted by the heart of Lorkhan and started to syphon it, then he got killed physically but in spirit he remained attached to the heart, while being attached to the heart his spirit (in the dreaming sleeve) kept dreaming his dream of how he sees liberation of his people, eventually he achieved the first walking way which is the same walking way that is the Numidium, that is hyper focus on one singular truth and erasure of everything else, he gained the ability to reproject his body back into Nirn though in spirit he could no longer be harmed because he was tethered through the heart, eventually he got strong enough for a full manifestation and now the Tribunal could no longer get their juice from the heart, now Dagoth in his delusion wants to trap everyone in his dream because he thinks that it is the divine liberating blessing but in reality it is a wrong solipsistic trap, he does not realize it but he became the Sharmat which is the false dreamer, a type of a walking way out of the six
The other five are Psijic endeavor, prolix tower, chim, enantiomorph and scarab.

>>713385014 (OP)
Because while he was right about the fuckers that are the Tribunal, he was still completely fucking insane and technically wasn't even "real". If left to his own devices, he would have infected all of Tamriel with the Corpus, turning everything into undying abominations that are just extensions of himself and would have used Akulakhan with the Heart of Lorkhan to unmake reality. Kind of have to put the poor bastard down.

Were the dwemer ghosts just strictly retconned out because you would think at least someone would've found a way to talk to one and learn shit by now, and Skyrim is full of dwarf ruins but no ghosts.

>>713415243
>he got enamoured and corrupted by the heart of Lorkhan and started to syphon it
tribunal slander, you'll answer for your crimes vivec

>>713415374
This but unironically, there's a good chance a good deal of that is pure bullshit considering the mere state of him is impossible to explain or prove

>>713415352
They were not ghosts and they were not retconed out. Go play Skyrim and do a quest called Arniel's endeavor, it is a quest that for some reason everyone misses and similarly a quest that most directly hints at what happened to the Dwemer and what are the Dwemer spectres we see.
It is actually bizarre that this quest never comes up in a discussion even though it is one of the most significant pieces of lore showcased in Skyrim.

>>713410923
Growlanser 2 and Wayfarer of Time

Dagoth wants to turn everyone into ash slaves. He would be a sympathetic villain otherwise but that's too interesting, Bethesda always needs an explicitly drawn good/evil dichotomy that even the retards can understand.

>>713415487
There is no such quest.

>>713415374
Both are true, everyone betrayed Nerevar, Voryn and Ayem, Vehk, Seht.
The only character who stayed true to Nerevar is the enigmatic Alandro Sul. But don't go too deep into Sul rabbit hole, because that family is strange to say the least.

>>713415487
>Go play Skyrim
>
Just explain what you're talking about instead of vagueposting

>>713415487
>They were not ghosts
Wut, you do fight dwemer spectres in morrowind dont you
>It is actually bizarre that this quest never comes up in a discussion
It's another shitty mission that expects you to get 10 irrelevant items except apparently it needs 10 of extremely heavy junk this time at the time

>>713414181
so Thalmor is basically Israel

>>713415487
If they're not ghosts, how come they contain ectoplasm? Hmm???

>>713415601
Arniel recreates conditions of the Dwemer, you create what is called a warped tonal resonator and he gets broken keening, then he bangs it a couple of times because he wants to specifically find out what happened to the Dwemer.
He proceeds to disintegrate and get absorbed by you, then you get a new "power" to summon his mindless spectre.
Now try to figure out why he got absorbed by the nearest shezarrine, and what that means for Numidium/heart of Lorkhan, what happened to Dwemer and what are the spectres.
Honestly Kirkbride has spelled it out already so there isn't really even a mystery, they got absorbed by Numidium and the spectres are memory echoes of their living selves

>>713415601
>>713415813
>https://youtu.be/4RXnBeJ8_ss?si=gsIZ54JuCUK9RYhL
You can watch it

>>713415813
>why he got absorbed by the nearest shezarrine
I actually don't really get this part

>>713385014 (OP)
>Take divine powers from guy holding the entire island hostage
>Meteor destroys island
>SurprisedDagothFace.jpeg

>>713415813
>Honestly Kirkbride has spelled it out already so there isn't really even a mystery, they got absorbed by Numidium and the spectres are memory echoes of their living selves
Yes but that's for the player, the world at large are still clueless

>>713415983
>nearest shezarrine
It's you, you're the thing

>>713416119
No it's the WHY part not where

>>713415981
>>713415813
Cheers, I honestly hate the College so I've always avoided it.

>>713415983
Lorkhan manifests as a type of heroes who are freedom manifest, thus shezarr-ine.
Dwemer wanted to created a false god built according to Lorkhan using his heart.
Dragonborn is a closest approximation of a Numidium nearby so instead of getting absorbed and united with Numidium Arniel got absorbed into you.

How would a Stormcloak victory affect Morrowind and High Rock? HR wouldn't even be contigous with the rest of the Empire, and Morrowind would be the only other province still connected to Cyrodil.

>>713416402
>thus shezarr-ine
you say this like what you said immediately before it explains anything regarding the title or why you've suddenly hyphenated the word lol

>>713418217
Shezarr means freedom in Ehlnofex as per Alessian rebellion

>>713418486
now it makes sense

>>713418620
Gods don't die in elder scrolls because they, as spheres, are part of reality since they were Et'Ada during dawn, Et'Ada meaning the original spirits as opposed to Ada who are just spiritual entities.
Ada/Et'Ada are composed of a soul and a spiritual body, in case of lesser Ada their spiritual body is just the projected magical body hence why when you destroy a body of a dremora they can revive because their soul never got destroyed and they can just project a new body, it is a property of their soul. In case of Et'Ada their self is so vast that they encompass a whole concept and their "body" is a size of a dimension/realm/sphere. Daedric princes have their spheres which are extensions of themselves egotistically for themselves, Aedra instead intertwined their spheres into the collective realm of Mundus thus their "bodies" are serving as building blocks of Mundus.
When Aedra committed their bodies to creation of Mundus they integrated their spheres into it, hence why the reality of Mundus looks like a solar system with Nirn in the center and Daedric planets/spheres spinning around Nirn, because the spheres of Aedra are invested in stabilizing Nirn.
In spirit Aedra are still connected to their spheres, but their spirits reside in Aetherius, tethered to their bodies.
Lorkhan was torn in half and his sphere/body was destroyed, his divine spark which is his heart was ripped out from him so he no longer has a sphere, but in doing so they accidentally made the entirety of Mundus and Nirn metaphorically his and the heart of Lorkhan became the heart of the world.
Because of these unique conditions Lorkhan is not tethered to his body and his spirit is not in Aetherius, but instead he is a void ghost and he either manipulates or manifests as incarnations of freedom on Nirn hence shezarrine. It is like he is haunting the world but his haunting is his intervention to steer the world into the direction he likes.

>>713416212
That quest was a very odd place to put such an important lore piece
It's not even vague too, he directly by name talks about tonal architecture and resnonance in a direct literal sense

>>713419184
Not Daedric planets, Aedric planets*
My bad

>>713416157
because as wulfharth getting trapped in mantella shows, shezarines soul is enough to recreate a pseudo heart of lorkhan like mantella

>>713419184
I didn't read all that, but I still kneel to you disciple of kirkbride.

>>713385014 (OP)
In film noir there are two rules.
1 No good guys.
2 Nobody gets a happy ending.

Morrowind was the first Noir video game.
There were no good guys and everyone got a bad ending.

>>713385487
nobody actually thinks this its just playful banter and larping. why are muttlennials so clueless?
t. zoomer

>>713420541
Given the time and effort put into a minor bad guy I would not be so sure.

God i kinda love reading about the metaphysical autisms of Elder scrolls

>>713420826
its because hes a meme, has esoteric lore and a great voice. he just represents an appreciation for morrowind in general as opposed to oblivion and skyrim and zoomers have gravitated towards morrowind quite a lot after finally waking up to its greatness.

>>713420896
it is a fun take on reverse gnosticism
the issue with most fantasy settings is that they do not actually have any sembalance of how esotericism or religions actually feel in real world, which is often borderline shizophrenic but connected to human cultures and psyche
most fantasy settings instead have dnd-esque heirarchy of brainlet power levels, and even with overcomplicated magic systems it does not actually evoke real vibes of what esoteric or occult practices tend to be

>>713385487
He's a fun character and people like fun characters.

>>713420947
That seems an oddly specific flex about an evil wizard living in a volcano.
He wasn't even that big a deal in the game he was in. He was the problem to be solved. He performed his role admirably.
I think having so many of his lines being voiced made him stand out but even given that your interactions were minimal.
Compared to the world ending threats from Oblivion and Skyrim the threat from Dagoth was more reserved.
> Oh no the world would have ended.
I am sure in theory that may be true but it was never an immediate threat.

>>713419184
The moons are Lorkhan’s sphere, this is why Sovengard, the house of Shor, is on the moon. In c0da there are giant worms that live under the surface of Masser because it’s essentially a maggot infested corpse

>>713421262
Somebody watched Dune.

>>713385712
It's the opposite from what I've seen. Normalfags will side with the empire in Skyrim because they see the Stormcloaks as heckin evil racists, but will laugh about Dagoth doing nothing wrong and call Argonians farming equipment (it's not funny when Nords keep them from entering Windhelm though, that's going too far).

>>713421494
The Empire v Stormcloak became a proxy for Trump.
That is why the Stormcloaks keep getting more popular.
As to the normies opinion on Dagoth I don't believe there is any widely held opinion either way.

>>713421247
the ai voice memes were just lucky and were graced by the algorithm to be spread and it captured the imagination of many that had never played morrowind, but knew of TES. it is, as i said, why so many of my generation has latched onto morrowind in recent years after discovering it and what it has to offer that skyrim and oblivion doesnt. the children yearn for it.

>>713421293
Morrowind is one of the most obviously inspired by Dune works in fantasy gaming. the whole story is basically identical to that of Paul's.

>>713421293
The maggots produce Flavoring. It is needed to travel to the planets.

>>713385712
Because Ulfric Stormcloak is unironically a chud. I'm not against the rebellion but hes a fucking terrible leader. Literally worse than Galmar. In fact most of the Stormcloak installer leaders are just as bad if not worse than the imperial choices.

>>713421678
What platform do zoomers play Morrowind on?
Steam shows 474 playing Morrowind currently.

>>713421293
>>713421730
There's a reddit post by Kirkbride where he talks about how he watched the Lynch version of Dune on it's opening day and how it basically caused him to start writing.

>>713421494
There's plenty of good reasons to dislike the stormcloaks but anyone who calls them heckin evil racists just wasn't paying much attention.
So yes your average normalfag.
>>713421667
For people to have an opinion on Dagoth they need to have actually played morrowind.

>>713421247
Dagoth's voice and personality are just good and lend themselves to jokes well, that's all there is to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3hsFEoiTwI

>>713421849
OpenMW doesn't launch through Steam.

>>713421849
openmw. the numbers do not show up on steam. a better way to view this is to look at the rate of unique downloads on nexus mods which has only gone up like crazy the past few years. i cant view on nexus right now for some reason, but i remember looking at it a few months ago and it was way past starfield lmao

>>713421247
Dagoth being more of a long term threat was one of morrowinds many strengths. The main quest was not some pressing urgent thing that needs to be tackled immediately according to the narrative. That is very good thing in an open world game that so fucking many fail to understand.

>>713421963
So we have gone from Morrowind is popular among zoomers to "Well actually a Morrowind mod has become popular among zoomers"

Do you even hear yourself?

>>713422105
????????

>>713422062
Number of mods, number of collections, number of downloads

>>713422159
Ignore him, it's the resident schizo.

>>713422171
there is a page where you can see the graphs but the page doesnt load for me right now for some reason

>>713421667
I'm not a burger so I never understood why exactly so many ledditors say that Ulfric=Trump. Am I missing something or what? Is it something like this?
>orange man bad
>other thing bad
>both are bad so they're the same

>>713422062
Nexus mods has mods with 100+ million unique downloads for Skyrim.
Skyrim,at best, sold 60 million across all platforms.
By your assessment there are tens of millions of people modding a game they don't have.

>>713422082
That was one of Morrowinds strengths. It seemed odd to be running around picking flowers for a quest when gates to Hell or dragons are everywhere.
Having the threat be more theoretical than immediate is a better way to go.

>>713422265
oh my god dude is there an actual autism epidemic on this board? i never said that it was a perfect indicator, but simply that 99% of people that started playing morrowind the past few years are doing it through openmw, which doesnt show up on steam, and probably 90% of those are downloading a few essential mods from the i heart vanilla mod list

>>713422159
Your public education is holding you back yet again.

still buttpained allinall nuked a bunch of his shit

>>713422381
So you have no proof zoomers are playing the Morrowind mod in significant numbers?
No worries. I figured you were talking out your ass. Now we know.

Two options lie before you.
1 Provide something to support your assertion.
2 Cry about someone disagreeing with you.

I wonder which route you will take.

oh no he's here.

>>713422465
allinall is a literal fag

>>713421262
Moons are Lorkhan's sphere but they are a dead sphere and he does not reside there in spirit unlike Aedra who are in spirit in Aetherius
Lorkhan in spirit is on Nirn as a void ghost

>>713422613
>no proof
Neither you have proof that less people are playing Morrowind than Skyrim. Apply your own criteria to your own claim. Or stop being an ass and accept neither of us are not talking about serious scientific proof, but healthy indicators of relative popularity. None of the other commenters aretaking you seriously anymore and if you make another stupid post the only thing that will happen is that you'll continue making an ass of yourself.

Thing about Dagoth Ur is that he's deeply traumatised by the events of Red Mountain. He's been crippled emotionally by the actions of the Tribunal and the only solution he found is to spread Corprus and make everyone extensions of himself to ensure a betrayal like that never happens again. This makes him sympathetic but also a really bad idea. You can't fix Voryn and becoming a dreamer is a really bad idea.

>>713422104
I thought Kirkbride denied Dune having influenced Morrowind beyond the visual

>>713423128
> Other than the evidence you provided you provided no evidence.
You aren't wrong.
Once again for the slow kids in the back.
Currently 400 or so are playing Morrowind on Steam.
If you want a real shock compare both Original Oblivion and the Remaster on Steam.

There is no proof of Morrowind having a resurgence of any kind. Well except for the anecdotal hordes of zoomers playing a Morrowind mod.

>>713423619
Plagiarists often deny the thing they ripped off had any influence.

>>713423128
Did you forget if you pretending to be two posters?
Your perspective changed from interested onlooker back to the original antagonist.

>>713414035
He also said he's a selfish boy who doesn't want to share his toys lol

>>713424002
Sounds like the Hanson Brothers from Slapshot.

>>713388192
Tonal magic is cool and good

>>713415352
>>713415487
There's that one dwemer ghost in Tribunal that enchants the Trueflame for you and never gets brought up again

>>713422246
if a redditor tells you that something = Trump, it means that that something is based. I do not even like MIGA Trump, but he did position himself as the root of all that is based. Redditors are the real problem - they are so unlikable, they create idols.

>>713385014 (OP)
>I considered allying with you but ultimately I can't trust you not to betray me and you also would be a fool to trust me, therefore we must fight
Gee I wonder why you can't take his side

>>713424765
Why does Make Iran Great Again Trump piss you off?
He is just letting it br known Iranian leadership is the problem not the Iranian people.

>>713414181
>it even has its own glowniggers
The US didn't invent glowniggas, Rome had the Frumentarii

>>713424890
I just do not like reddit. lets keep it at that.

>>713419184
wait, so where does the heart go when we bash it with sunder and keening?

>>713407792
they consider you a mutie too only latinos are retarded enough to join a faction that despises them

>>713421958
>as my body finally surrenders, I weep
kek, it's been a while

>>713425353
People joined the Empire in Skyrim so don't underestimate the stupidity of some people.

>>713385487
>he spreads fucking corprus for fuck sake
he's just spreading divinity to everybody

>>713425454
I just want to larp as a fantasy Roman desu

>>713385014 (OP)
>Wait, so he was just right about everything?
No, he was a nigger too

Are the other faction questlines as good as Thieves guild in TR? This shit is so much better than the base game faction and I'm having a blast.
>actual character and flavor in writing with memorable characters
>quests aren't just as advertised, actually have twists and turns throughout them
>uses morrowind mechanics to their limit by moving around actors during quests to provide more options in storytelling and events
>quests are all thematically in line with thieving and when they put you in a dungeon crawl they put in human guards to stealth around to make you actually feel like a thief
>added occasional speechcraft checks to actually make the skill useful and can bribe guards with high mercantile if caught

To whoever made this, hats off to you, I'm basically playing Morrowind 2 here and it's great. Got that realization when I was using a Jump spell to jump across the rooftop in Old Ebonheart to avoid the guards who are all out after you and I was so excited to continue as I went to bed, not having had that feeling with vidya for a long time.

>>713422613
>the Morrowind mod
what the fuck does this mean? i dont know what youre referring to. are you legitimately schizophrenic or just illiterate?

>>713423619
>>713423745
he didnt. are you guys blind? read the text on the picture that anon posted. kirkbride straight up says dune influenced all his writing.

>>713425292
Heart exists in two forms, as a tone/code/aura that is part of Nirn and as a solid object.
It can be made solid or return to it's original meta form using Dwemer tonal enchantments.
In five songs of king Wulfharth we see that in combat Nerevar and Sul have used keening to make the heart solid and unsolid to defeat avatar of Lorkhan.
You completely destroy the Dwemer tonal enchantments returning the heart to it's tonal meta form.
>The Nerevarine will not be taught the secret rituals required to perform the third step. Instead, The Nerevarine will strike the Heart with Keening for a second time, causing its tones to diverge into unstable patterns of interference. Further repeated strikes with Keening will further disrupt the tones, with the ultimate result of shattering and dispelling Kagrenac's original enchantments binding the Heart, thereby severing the Heart's links with Dagoth Ur, and with any surviving Heartwights, and with the Tribunal. Destroying Kagrenac's enchantments on the Heart will also stop the corrupt effusion of the Heart's divine power, and end the Blight on Morrowind.
>https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Plan_to_Defeat_Dagoth_Ur

>>713424960
to just outright be a contrarian about anything that applies to reddit is extremely bot behaviour. literally just "if reddit = cringe. if 4chan = based" is retarded and gay

>>713426509
TR is some of the best TES content ever

>>713426558
Openmw.
> That is not a mod.
Does it modify anything at all? It's a mod.

>>713426638
It is bizarre that people miss texts that are literally part of the main quest

>>713426692
it doesnt modify anything. it is its own engine. but you are clearly autistic and for some reason playing a virtually identical game but with damage values being 0.000045% off for some reason immediately equates to an entirely different game is ridiculous. i dont see why this means you arent a fan of the game. does playing fallout new vegas with an unofficial patch mod and anti-crash mod mean you le didnt play the game or something?

>>713426671
Reddit is bad because it is a hugbox. Moderation and dowvotes are used to suppress dissenting opinions.
It is a site for cowards just looking for comfort in compliance.

>>713426671
if i can give you a frame of thinking that will be right 95% of the time and requires 1 second to reach a conclusion, it is far better than a frame of thinking that may be right 100% of the time, but needs hours every day of thinking to reach a conclusion. Life is complex. We make things easier on our brains by saving time. Knowing that jews/reddit/other beings are wrong 95% of the time, saves time.

>>713426798
So it is the exact same as vanilla Morrowind with no changes at all?
Then what is the point of Openmw?

>>713426915
As you were just told, it's porting the game to a different engine. More stable, less bugs, runs better

>>713385487
>are people that think dagoth ur is based
No
He's a fucking elf in the end

>>713426807
sure. i dont like reddit either. but just because you share an opinion that reddit broadly agrees with is not necessarily a bad thing. be your own man, pussy. i remember le epic bacon muh manly viking atheist redditors back in the day in 2012 loved the stormcloaks and now theyve changed to being empire lovers. who gives a fucking shit?

>>713426915
because OG morrowind runs like shit and has a lot of bugs. openmw is vastly superior as an engine. why is this such a problem for you? do you think the openmw creators just made it for no reason you dumb cunt? idk why im even talking to you desu

>>713426885
>retarded frogposter thinks he's a sorting algorithm exhibit 834584853489583490535093495349582394589258942

>>713426692
>>713426915
It's a remake/remaster like Daggerfall Unity stop being autistic.

>>713427029
Doesn't MW run just fine with the code patch?

>>713426509
>Are the other faction questlines as good as Thieves guild in TR?
The MG, yes. The others have a couple standout questlines, but they're not as good overall. Still vanilla-tier at minimum though.

>>713426958
So it is modified?
Do you know the derivation of the word mod?
It is shorthand for modification.
Modification means to change from original format.

Does openmw change anything from the original or does it change it from its original format.
If it changes nothing from the original form it is useless. If it does change something from its original firm it is a modification.

Your public education should be grounds for a lawsuit.

>>713427217
how do you navigate daily life with such nit-picky crippling autism

>>713398739
>he equates a media with two services
kek bur shig ma dig

>>713426967
You can find a reddit page that agrees with any opinion you may have.
They all use the same draconian methods to suppress dissent from the prevailing opinion.

It is a place for the weak and stupid.

>>713427139
Yes. Some people even have better performance than with openmw depending on installed mods.
Openmw is really there for multiplayer, if you're not into that there's no reason to use openmw and there won't be until mod parity is reached.

>>713425292
it becomes energy like it was before kagerniga trapped it

>>713427281
> How do you go through life using words correctly?
A proper education can be a burden. Be thankful you are aren't.

>>713427348
IIRC the multiplayer mod isn't compatible with a lot of mods, no?

>>713426742
I forgot, man, it's been a while

>>713427428
I don't know about the mod itself, but basically the whole reason why openmw had to scrap mwse support and all the mods relying on it is that you can't allow that kind memory access in mp.

>>713427031
public String checkSource(String source) {
if ("jews".equals(source) || "reddit".equals(source)) {
return "lies";
}
// return something else if the condition is not met
return "truth";
}

>>713427829
hoyl shiyt dude congratuolations on your first java highschool class rashid

>>713427175
alright, iirc the first quest i got was a "pick ingredients quest" so it didn't bode well for MG, but will check it out. I was really hoping that Morag Tong would have some cool stuff, but it's probably the least likely to be fleshed out I suppose. How is East Empire Company?

>>713428024
>alright, iirc the first quest i got was a "pick ingredients quest" so it didn't bode well for MG
In most chapters the first couple quests for the MG and FG are shit because they're meant for fresh characters.
OE's MG ramps up very quickly as soon as you're done with the basement girl's quests, and you should also be on the lookout for quests that aren't offered by the guild steward, there are a couple.
>How is East Empire Company?
It's alright. Narsis and OE were pretty nice, but I'm blanking out on Firewatch/Helnim.

>>713398739
>You arent forced to cook your own fucking food at a restaurant
This nigga has never eaten korean bbq

>>713390040
I always play that song during the end fight. Pure kino

The demiurge is an infinitely benevolent being

It should not be hated

>>713398739
>You arent forced to cook your own fucking food at a restaurant, or help reset the roller coaster after you pay to get on.
A better analogy would be going at a restaurant and not being told the recipe of what you're eating.

>>713415117
empire was shit because they were so overworked todd howard personally did the questline for them.

>>713428491
That's cool. I'm wondering where I should go after OE to get most bang for my buck, Narsis or Firewatch. But then I still have so much to do in OE that I likely won't be leaving soon.

>>713385014 (OP)
>Look! It's Azura's Fool! Look at you. Not a real thing at all. Just a pathetic puppet of prophecy. And you think you can trust the Daedra Lords?

>Ah, she's sucked you in with her pretty prophecies. Promised you power, did she? Promised you justice, did she? And when did a Daedra Lord ever fulfill a promise? Such a faulty memory you have.

>Have you asked yourself WHY you are doing Azura's bidding? Are you in the habit of trusting Daedra Lords? Have you forgotten what scheming, treacherous fiends the Daedra are?

>Mortals are but simple sport to the Daedra Lords. They pull the strings, and you poor fools leap and dance. Why do you serve them? Why do you fall for their honeyed lies? For ages you've yielded to their temptations, their false promises. How soon you forget their treachery, their deceits.

>Come on! You're the prophesied Incarnate! Azura has promised you fame and glory! Surely you can't be afraid of me, can you? Don't be shy. With a Daedra Lord for ally and patron, how could you lose? Oh, PLEASE don't hurt me, star-blessed hero!

>>713388106
By simply creating the prophesy Azura created a self-fulfilling prophesy (kek). She knew that people were going to try to do what she laid out to complete it. That's why the "failed incarnates" exist, they were just normies (like the PC) who tried to brute force it and failed.

So if the Tribunal desecrated and mutilated Nerevar's remains so that he could return as anyone, why does the Temple hunt incarnates?

>>713430037
Daedra can see the future somewhat so she knew it was going to happen anyway and just decided to take credit

>>713430037
As long as it remains unfulfilled the prophecy is still possible. Sounds like a daedric scam.
If it ever does get fulfilled they can go "See? Told you so"

>>713430141
Also, why would Dunmer even believe in reincarnation? It is tradition to have the ghosts of your ancestors guard the family tomb. If reincarnation was a thing wouldn't forcing their ancestors to linger as ghosts get in the way of it?

>>713430141
> Why does the temple hunt threats to their power?
That is a puzzler.

>>713430429
Sure, but they must have some official excuse to explain why they're going against the acts of Almsivi

>>713430696
Fascists historically have not felt the need to justify their actions.
The tribunal even has a re-education center floating around for anyone that becomes problematic.

>>713429685
>I'm wondering where I should go after OE to get most bang for my buck, Narsis or Firewatch
Depends on your faction rank. Most guilds in either city have half their quests rank-locked, in the 4-7 range iirc.
If you're already there, go Firewatch then Narsis, so you'll have both difficulty and quality ramp up instead of down.
If you're not there, Bal Foyen would be my pick.

>why forecome
ESL thread

>>713430914
ESL sight

>>713430914
>255 / 28 / 4
>>713431252

>>713430141
>if god foretold the coming of the messiah, why do jews persecute all the ones they think are fakers
>if bodhisattvas foretold their reincarnation, why do tibetans persecute all the ones they think are fake tulkus

>>713424890
Iran didn’t do anything. Their leadership isn’t a problem for us. Install just attacked them because they are crazy, paranoid, and project their foul behavior onto other countries

>>713427427
>you are aren’t
Also way to brag about your lack of comprehension

>>713430141
Do you people genuinely not understand Dunmer religion? They believe in radical objectivism mixed with bizarre hyper Nietzschean ideology
Because being hunted is part of his incarnation, and adversity pain and destruction is necessary, in fact in velothi faith Psijic endeavor is possible only through suffering
It is the same reason why Vivec made Baar dau hang so that one day it will destroy Vivec city because that would be adversity which would cause dunmer to get better later
Velothi branches of faith believe that suffering is good

>>713430696
Almsivi do not teach that Nerevarine will return, almsivi deliberately lie about it because in twisted velothi system of morals important lies are virtuous because by lying about truth you create an adversity for truth seekers to overcome
You have to remember that Boethiah, Azura and fucking Mephala created Chimer/Dunmer culture
Their system of morality is bizarre

>>713431547
They want a nuke.
They can't have one.

>>713432424
For now. Wait a minute that will change.
They worship who they are told to.

>>713432727
That's about as proven as iraq's bioweapons.
bibi has been whining about it since the 90s and no bomb was ever made.
All there is to this situation is israel looking for an excuse to neutralize its main regional rival, and th US going along with it like a loyal doggy.
I don't think Trump realizes how badly this undermines both him and his country, no amount of aipac support and epstein list deletions can be worth it.

>>713431693
You are correct I should have proofread my post.
If I had I would have caught autocorrect duplicating are.

The second half is baffling though. What am I bragging about?

>>713432952
They were told no.
They didn't cut a deal.
Shit blew up.

Don't overthink it.
They can either come back to the table or have more shit blow up.
Trump stacking muzzies until they comply is fine by me.

Was Miraak just a poor imitation of Dagoth Ur?

>>713433194
>They can either come back to the table
For what? Unconditional surrender? Trump isn't going to go back to the table and accept Iran's continuation of their nuclear strategy.
By doing this you're telling everyone there's no reason to go to the table. It's either israel's way or their doggy's bombs.

>>713433348
They both performed their role as antagonist ably.
So sure.

>>713433478
An agreement where they stop pursuing nuclear weapons.
It isn't rocket science.
Comply or die.

>>713431693
Imagine thinking a typo is a self-own while completely misunderstanding the post you're mocking. You bring your fifth-grade reading level to /v/ like it's going to impress anyone. Go back to proofreading cereal boxes.

>Rolstonfag is a literal autistic migger boomer who somehow got into TES
Yeah his posts always had that energy to them

>>713433194
>They didn't cut a deal.
Why do you lie?

>>713433585
>An agreement where they stop pursuing nuclear weapons
There can be no agreement on those lines when the definition of "pursuing nuclear weapons" is basically "existing as any sort of competition to israeli interests regardless of nuclear efforts".
You've already used the wmd excuse 20 years ago, get a new one.

>>713433670
stop replying to posts twice

>>713433750
What deal did they cut?
This will last as long as Iran wants. We have more bombs than they have targets.

>>713433728
I mean at this point i bet there could be a case study done about his strain of autism. Especially after the TR update and Oblivion remaster he has been especially unhinged

>>713433348
He was just trying to escape Apocrypha not give everyone music cancer.

>>713433842
Your poor understanding if the issue only shows you should stop commenting in things you don't understand.

This seems mostly an exercise for you to indulge your jew derangement syndrome.

My guess is you are so locked in you will be unable to stop talking about da joos.

>>713434092
>complete refusal to provide a counter
I accept your concession

>>713415981
What is that obnoxious music?

>>713433868
He didn't.
Your "ownage" over my ,admitted, mistake was clearly pathetic enough to warrant a comment from others.
I would not want to keep drawing attention to it if I had gone that route so as to not draw anymore attention to it. You do you though.

I wish I could join all the great houses so i can experience their quests on one character

>>713433728
that explains why his writing style is so alien and why he's barely assimilated any 4chan lingo or mannerisms despite years of being here, he's like the average /ptg/ retard

>>713434360
why does the hlaalu guy look like a dark brotherhood or morag tong guy

>>713434192
How am I supposed to counter your poor understanding?
It isn't my problem to solve.

>>713434360
im currently playing with join all houses mod. works for now

Gotta love samefagging a conversation about a guy that isn't even here.

That guy mind broke you something awful.

>>713434593
You are supposed to counter my argument.
My "poor understanding" is an excuse not to engage. Understandable, really.
How could you possibly argue that after decades of bibi whining about iran's nuclear plan, it's finally time for them to be ready and willing to be a nuclear threat?
How could you possibly argue that the march 2025 US intelligence threat assessment stating Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and that Khamenei has not reauthorized the nuclear
weapons program he suspended in 2003 are already invalid?
Better to pretend everyone else is just too stupid to grasp all the facts.

>>713434360
they're all so dreadfully boring though, why would you want to.

>>713435104
I think find his obsession with that gent to be quite off putting.
You are quite lucky I happened by at this exact moment to offer support.

>>713435135
Trump told them they couldn't have a nuke.
They are still trying to get a nuke.
Shit blew up.

Your joo derangement syndrome is a you problem.

>>713434360
People say morrowind is inspired by abe's odyssey and moebius, but they both look way too weird and shit to me, never liked the absurdist too out there stuff, and yet I love Morrowind's art direction to death. It's like they struck the perfect balance of making things distinct and a bit strange, while keeping most designs as very appealing in how they look. And I can't find it anywhere else it feels like. So never again.

>>713435104
>>713435327
I just got off work and agree. His obsession with Rolstonfag is a sign of mania.
Thankfully I just happened to be here to weigh in.

>>713431547
>>713432727
>>713432952
Why is Pakistan allowed to have them, but Iran isn't?

he thinks he's so clever, it's cute in a way

>>713435604
We allowed them to have one because we liked them back then.
May have to take them away soon.

>>713435442
>iran denies trying to get a nuke
>usrael refuse to accept the denial
>bombs are dropped
Just what exactly is iran supposed to do?
Oh right, roll over and renounce its sovereignty.
Because this was never about nuclear bombs.

>>713435604
Pakistan isn't considered a threat to western interests and nobody cares if they nuke poos anyway.

>>713435683
Obvious samefagging is obvious.
That is what think he was showing.
To put a punctuation on it he should have started each one wit nta.

>>713435852
Once again your obsession with da joos is holding you back.

Trump told them no.
They are now in the finding out stage.

>>713435852
Pakistan and India exchanging nukes might not be such a bad thing.

well this is one way to derail a thread. Still, bit baffled why he's not getting jannie'd for off topic retardation.

Does the Ebon tower have any lore significance around it seeing as towers are kind of a big deal in elder scrolls?

>>713430914
It's just a dumb refrence, entirely intentional

>>713435442
Trump's own fucking head of intelligence said earlier this year that Iran didn't seem to be having any plans to make a nuclear weapon.

>>713435997
You're the only one talking about jews qua jews.
I'm talking about the country that has been sending airstrikes over Iran for the last two weeks.
Crying victim will not help you here.

>>713436293
It's not a metaphysical tower, but it does contain something of metaphysical import.

>>713436612
Your obsession is noted.
We all have noticed.
You no longer have to bring them up.
We get it.

>>713436238
Anyone that reports it will get the same punishment if they are engaging in it.
That is why it isn't being jannied.

>>713400667
>nerevar can you believe these bastard imperial mongrels, they put bitterant in the whippets

Where is the Skyrim embassy?

>>713436601
This the same Intel people that said Sadaam had WMDs?
The same ones that said the laptop was Russian disinfo?

>>713437036
Ebonheart

>>713432727
You’re retarded if you think they would nuke anyone, it’s called deterrence

>>713433050
Bragging about your inability to understand what’s being explained to you, like you’re the smart one for hinging on only one word and ignoring the paragraphs of text clearly explaining the situation to you. Plus you’re biased against morrowind KWAB

>>713433194
They were at the table. They are still at the table. They already cut a deal not to make nukes. They weren’t making nukes.

>>713435442
They are not still trying to make a nuke, our own intelligence confirms this

>>713435997
They aren’t developing nukes and our own intelligence confirms that

Elder Scrolls? Videogames? Not replying to an autistic narcissistic schizo who will literally never concede to any argument you have?

>>713385487
>he spreads fucking corprus for fuck sake
Oh boo hoo a little corprus didn't never killed nobody

>>713420984
I also like how the gods and daedra don't have obvious elemental attributes or divine domains either. Like sure, some of them you could probably go "he's the god of X" but for the most part they have a lot of overlap and quirks of their own where it feels more like real gods.

>>713408903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKLk7ZozZQ8

Heavy Armor and Medium armor skill while wearing Dark Brotherhood assassin gear. No Fists of Randagufl, no Helm of Oreyn Bearclaw.

>>713437690
You still haven't clarified anything. You made random statements with no details.

>>713437768
Then what where they storing in bunker complexes 300 feet underground? Office supplies?

>>713422104
>Kanly
The morag tong writs are a really cool concept, but I never quite understood who sanctions the writs. Is it basically just a case of there being a guild who's supposed to be neutral, and that any of the great houses can hire assassins to kill anyone they wish from another great house, as inter-house warfare is formalized and accepted as a constant on-going thing? Does this mean that the writs always have to have whoever ordered the assassination on it, then, so it's always public knowledge? Or is that only a thing if the morag tong guy fucks up and has to show the writ to the guards to proclaim his own innocence? Because the thing is they have also killed a ton of empire people including emperors, so are they sanctioned outside of morrowind too and the empire is okay with this, or was this all before they joined the empire, and now they're only limited to dunmer great house assassinations?

>>713437894
Not anymore. We blew up their nuke making stuff.

>>713438024
The anon you are arguing with conceded he should have proofread a post.
Why lie about random things?

>>713426617
he has said that visually and thematically it inspired him, but that it didn't have much impact on the story, which is ironic since the story very much follows dune quite closely

>>713439031
They assassinated emperors when morrowind was an independent state at war with the empire.

>>713439031
imagine a morag tong thief-like featuring mechanics derived from the crazy magic of morrowind, bros...

>>713439280
Kirkbride didn't write Morrowind's main quest, only in-game books.

>>713439031
Sounds like it is just go to the local assassin store and put in your order.
Could have been cool if it was a John Wick barely secret society of assassins.

>>713436293
there are exactly 8 successful towers, but there are more attempts at making a tower
also all towers are a manifestation of Prolix-Tower which is a walking way that is defined by "inserting your narrative or words into an existing story to alter it"
By this virtue even minor tonal architecture like Dragonborn using Thu'um is a minor manifestation of the Prolix Tower walking way

>>713438452
gods are treated more like living concepts, almost in this jungian way

>>713388192
Literally me

>>713439464
I've done an interview with Kurt Kuhlmann during a game design course as an assignment, and when I was asking about worldbuilding of Morrowind unprompted he said that almost entirety of Morrowinds narrative is thanks to Kirkbride.

>>713436896
it's more because /v/ mods are barely around and half of them are more than fine with off-topic /pol/ shit anyways, as the infamous hasanabi thread from a while ago showed us all

>>713439031
>Instead, petitions for services are sent to the guild's Grandmaster for examination and consideration. If the petition is accepted, an honorable writ of execution is prepared and awarded to a Morag Tong member.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Honorable_Writs_of_Execution It's from ESO so take it as you will
Also the Morag Tong was a wider spread cult before the assasination of Versidue-Shaie, after which it was outlawed everywhere but in Morrowind which was independent at the time.

>>713415743
Thalomar fits Iran better
Thalomar is opposed to the empire, they're not a client state of the empire.

>>713439847
When I interviewed Kirkbride for the ESO loremaster job he claimed he was just a member of the team and that it was a group effort.

>>713439897
I think events from a few months ago scared off the more politically minded mods and jannies.

>>713439031
>Does this mean that the writs always have to have whoever ordered the assassination on it, then, so it's always public knowledge
Public might be a stretch, but the authorities always know what writs have been accepted and executed even if the assassin did the job without needing to present the writ to a guard.
Technically, the cult glorifies Mephala's "secret murder", so you're not supposed to get found out personally, but the Tong still presents the writs to communicate that someone was slain legally, no need for further investigation.

>>713434360
Hlaalu doesn't look that cool, don't fool yourself

>>713440067
>When I interviewed Kirkbride for the ESO loremaster job
Do you at work ZOS? Was Kirkbride trying to become ESO's loremaster?

>>713421014
This desu.

Is there an openmw mod for controller comparability?

>>713385487

I think you need some Corprus positivity, chud. Corprus positive people serve your food and drinks and you should also feel bad about not wanting to date them.

>>713440659
Officially No I do not work for any subsidiary of Microsoft or Zenimax.
It would be silly to make that claim online knowing how draconian security is.

I am fairly certain is has been publicly disclosed he interviewed for the ESO loremaster job.

>>713440589
You're right
They look even cooler

>>713385487
Dagoth Ur never called me an N'wah

>>713441117
Just shut up bro.

>>713391141
He's an ethnonationalist. Every ethnonationalist has some concept of a "race traitor". Dagoth Ur would accept Dunmer of any tribe or house so long as they follow him. Indeed he does have sleepers in every great house.

>>713429685
Seconding Bal Foyen/Andothren, the TG stuff there is my favorite in TR.

>>713430292
>>713430347
An anon awhile ago said it pretty well in another thread
>"I prophesy you will be punched in the face"
>spends the next 3000 years training people to punch you in the face
>finally one runs up and decks you
>"THE PROHECY IS FULFILLED!AZURA IS CUMMING!

>>713414181
The British made the mold that USA glowies are cast from anon. East Empire Company=East India Company. The anon is correct, the Empire in Morrowind is British with Roman aesthetics.

>>713414810
It only works for the Nerevarine because he is black elf Jesus

>>713441279
>Imperial LARPers
eww

>>713441236
>I am fairly certain is has been publicly disclosed he interviewed for the ESO loremaster job.
Not known by me, cool nonetheless.

Me and my boyfriend already have Corprus so it’s not a problem between us, however a lot of other people in the community are having trouble finding partners

>>713442464
Shut up Dagoth Ur
Nerevarine will never be your bf

>>713441986
representing azura as a dunmer don't make any sense at all

>>713442789
What a grand and impozzifying innocence

>>713442463
This was way back in the beginning. Schick ended up getting the job.

>>713442818
She's blue in morrowind

>>713442818
Who cares?

Does anyone have that meme that's like "when Dagoth Ur calls you his moon and star" and then female players dropping their panties

>>713398739
zanzibart...

>>713442818
it's literally based directly on how she appears in morrowind

>>713443091
It's still crazy to me what happened with Schick, imagine being this dude with decades of experience and getting blindsided by a rabid screaming fanbase right as you come into a new project. I'm surprised he stuck with it but not at all surprised he disappeared from the public eye.

>>713431547
>Iran openly wages a proxy war against Israel and the West for decades
>Israel finally slaps their shit
>Big daddy USA drops the bunker buster coup de grace
>Leftists whine and cry over it, since Iran is also one of the countires funding leftist to undermine the West

>>713443775
It was a small part of the fan base that lost their shit.
A few bad apples ruin it for everyone everytime.

>>713427217
Why are you using the dictionary definition of modify to describe a mod? Mod is a term of art. In the case of Morrowind, a mod is a file or files that you add or replace in the Morrowind game dirrctory to modify some aspect of the original game.

That's not what OpenMW is. OpenMW is a completely separate program that runs Morrowind files in a new engine. It doesn't replace anything in the Morrowind directory. It is distinct from a mod. In fact, many but not all Morrowind mods can be used to mod OpenMW. OpenMW also has mods exclusive to it that can't run in original Morrowind.

That is why it is useful to view OpenMW as a distinct program rather than simply a Morrowind mod.

>>713443775
His work on ESO was garbage so who cares

>>713440029
>Versidue-Shaie
Who
Also why did it chaneg Morag Tong's future

>>713442818
Why wouldn't it? Her "curse" of the Chimer was to make them look like her, creating the Dunmer.

>>713428491
>OE's MG
Hey wait, there's a MG base in OE?

>>713444552
After USAID got shut down the dems need all the funding they can get.

The Federal Election Committee just released their quarterly report.
Republicans have 63 million cash on hand.
The dems have 18 million.

They would suck the devils dick for 100k at this point.

>>713444673
i HATE ratopombo

Answer me these loreanons, to what extent are the gods aware of reality being a dream? And is this the reason Aka went insane? The Eat The Dreamer text seems to imply so

>>713434476
Camonna and Morag town are both ruled by Hlaalu

>>713444647
> Why are you using words correctly.
Not sure if serious.

>>713444673
I LOVE ratopombo

>>713442818
why not? she is kind of a christ like figure so she chooses to represent herself as a dunmer female. you do also realize that daedra dont actually have a physical form and just change their appearance into whatever they please, right?

Zoomers have been so buckbroken and zoomed out on contrarianism they now pretend Morrowind was good are now analyzing the ''story'' of a fucking Bethesda game.

>>713444978
That what Talos is for. He is going to take over everyone's position and make TES monotheistic and do what he wants.

A Koan

A man decided to go and study with a master. He went to the door of the master "Who are you who wishes to study here?" asked the master. The student told the master his name. "That is not what you are that is only what you are called. "Who are you who wishes to study here?" he asked again. The man thought for a moment and replied, "I am a professor." "That is what you do, not what you are" replied the master. "Who are you who wishes to study here?" Confused, the man thought some more. Finally, he answered, "I am a human being." "That is only your species, not who you are. "Who are you who wishes to study here?" asked the master again. After a moment of thought, the professor replied, "I am a consciousness inhabiting an arbitrary body." "That is merely what you are not who you are. Who are you who wishes to study here?" The man was getting irritated. "I am," he started, but he could not think of anything else to say, so he trailed off. After a long pause the master replied "Then you are welcome to come study."

>>713445298
Then that man turned 360° and walked away.
Ain't nobody got time to deal with stupid bullshit.

>>713445000
Using the literal definition in a vacuum rather than its definition and connotations in context is the opposite of correct, anon.

>>713440553
>so you're not supposed to get found out personally, but the Tong still presents the writs to communicate that someone was slain legally,
I see. It makes sense, but I always liked the idea of them being able to make public assassinations (done purposefully as a message) and then holding the writ up to get away scot free. Sets them apart from the dark brotherhood, and it's something I'd like to see as content in the game. Having a room filled to the brim with hostile people where you have to get to the target and take them down quick so you can present the writ and have law enforcement have to back you is kind of a cool idea, and in Hlaalu areas they'd play along with this a lot, where as in Redoran areas it would be the harder contracts since no Redoran guard would accept to stand down after you slayed someone right next to them, since they don't respect the morag tong.
>>713439429
Having it be like Dishonored but symmetrical in that the enemies have access to your power-level and more could be fun and not something that's been done before. Sniping telvanni wizards with leading shots as they try and flee with Levitate out the window and taking down vampires with superspeed and superstrength with hit-and-run tactics. We need an assassin game that uses mirror's edge freerunning instead of being stuck with assassins creed at least, that's for sure.

>>713385487
mongrel dog, shut the fuck up

>>713385487
sounds like modern conservatism to me.
some good ideas unfortunately tied to batshit insanity.

>>713444931
So we can expect the progressives to go full Shiite fundamentalist soon?

>>713435604
both pakistan and India should have their nuclear sites bombed.

I love my Dunmer wife!

>>713444978
>to what extent are the gods aware of reality being a dream
Completely unaware in a real sense, but aware of effects of it more than anyone intuitively because they are the result of it being a dream
>And is this the reason Aka went insane?
Yes, Akhat the first serpent went insane because his shadow realized that the wheel is tower and the first serpent split into Aka and Lorkhan, Lorkhan being the "unstable mutant" described in the book "Sithis", the only Et'Ada who saw that the wheel and tower are one
Then Lorkhan proceeded to create Mundus because realm of mortality and suffering is the only realm where freedom from the dream is possible to find out because he himself was unable to find the solution in infinite perfect realms of aetherius
>The Eat The Dreamer text seems to imply s
Yes, Akatosh and Lorkhan are direct avatars of Anuiel and Sithis who are direct avatars of Anu who is the Dreamer and Padomay who is the memory of his brother from before the dream

>>713446705
Given how the two of them nearly started WWIII a few weeks ago with far less provocation than either Israel or Iran has faced; I think you have a point.

Is there anyone that actually plays Morrowind with bows/crossbows? Dice combat feels like shit when it comes to weapons you're actually meant to aim with.

>>713445964
You will NEVER achieve CHIM, Vivec.

>>713385712
The plan for driving mongrel hordes out of Skyrim doesn't involve giving the entire indigenous popluation brain-rotting, face-melting super AIDS. Kind of a small caviar.

>>713446932
you don't have to aim just shoot at the enemy's general direction

>>713446325
>mirror's edge freerunning instead of being stuck with assassins creed
All the Dying Light games wasted on zombie slop when it could be the AC spiritual successor of choice

>>713446325
>I see. It makes sense, but I always liked the idea of them being able to make public assassinations (done purposefully as a message) and then holding the writ up to get away scot free. Sets them apart from the dark brotherhood, and it's something I'd like to see as content in the game. Having a room filled to the brim with hostile people where you have to get to the target and take them down quick so you can present the writ and have law enforcement have to back you is kind of a cool idea, and in Hlaalu areas they'd play along with this a lot, where as in Redoran areas it would be the harder contracts since no Redoran guard would accept to stand down after you slayed someone right next to them, since they don't respect the morag tong.
You can actually do this, the only consequence is that only gain half the disposition increase from the quest.
Which is a fair representation of them thinking you less competent/devoted than your results suggest.

>>713446291
Your public education makes it difficult to speak with you.
How did mods come to be called mods?
Was it plucked out of the ether?
Was it brought down from the mountain writ in stone transcribed directly from gods mouth?
No it is short hand for modification.
How fucking stupid do you have to be to think you are entitled to your own reality?

All I can think of is that scene that ends up "We are all stupider for listening to you"

Much like a pig wallows in its own shit you wallow in your lack of knowledge and wear it like a badge of honor.

You sicken me as a human.

>>713444637
>A few bad apples ruin it for everyone
How were they bad apples when he proved them right?

>>713446638
Whichever sect ilhan omar is presumably.

>>713444673
Cute

>Uuuh, but why don't the gods intervene, why have the players do all the work?!
>Aedra can't intervene directly anymore after losing their forms and Daedra are too chaotic and weird to bother upholding morality or saving the world unless it suits their whims at that particular moment
I love the worldbuilding

>>713446932
I only avoid using bows because I hate the sound effects, other than that Xbows and throwing weapons are great in the right situation. The dice-roll combat has never bothered me

>>713447767
How did he prove them right?

>>713446932
>plays Morrowind with bows/crossbows
Only with bosmer, agility and marksman maxed, the warrior sign

>>713444903
>is there a M ages G uild chapter in O ld E bonheart
Yes there is and I would be amazed you managed to miss it, considering it's in a very visible position, it's the target of multiple quests from various factions, and is connected to six other chapters through the guild guide.
Now I await to hear what you thought MG and OE stood for.

>>713447807
elder scrolls is a very satisfying setting with how it fits

>>713447807
Say that a little louder. I couldn't hear you over hitting my lucky coin with Stendarrs Hammer.

>>713448045
ESO's lore and art direction is reviled by the fandom.
You're undoubtedly going to deny out of a lack of intellectual honesty, but we both know that is the case even among ESO fans.

>>713385014 (OP)
The Sharmat is right and Anti-chim is true godhood.
Vivec is a poser.

>>713385712
Because Ulfric wasn't spreading magic gigacancer that makes your face fall off as you turn into a mindless zombie-slave
also Dagoth Ur explicitly says he intends to conquer all of Tamriel and not just liberate Morrowind

>>713447534
>only gain half the disposition increase from the quest.
does this affect Reputation gain or just the Disposition of the quest giver?
>You can actually do this
Yeah it's been many years since I did the MT quests but I remember doing something like it in a bar setting and I thought it was really cool as the guards came rushing and you could talk them down, which made me start thinking how they could potentially build MT quests around this in Tamriel rebuilt.

>>713447702
See man, this is why everybody hates, you're literally the first person i see on 4chan who became known as a schizo not for actively inflamatory trolling, not for spamming, but literally just for being a genuinely unpleasant person to interact with in any way, i know your autism impedes you from understanding normal people but c'mon, at least try

>>713448365
>does this affect Reputation gain or just the Disposition of the quest giver?
I think it affects only the quest giver.

>>713448240
The lore has been steadily going downhill as they have to churn out a ton of shit to keep the pigs happy.
The art direction is no better or worse than any other TES game.
> You surely don't mean MY favorite game.
I mean even my favorite game. Every game is hit or miss.

>>713447889
Also the MC is suddenly left-handed for some reason when it comes to bows and spears

>>713448638
I don't want to touch ESO because i don't want my imaginary image of the provinces ruined by an mmo that has to depict every single place, undoubtedly watering them down to nothing

>>713447702
You're a retard with delusions of being a savant. Nowhere in my post did I deny the etymology of the term "mod" or contradict that its base meaning refers to a "modification". All I did was expand on the context of the term "mod" in video game terms as being files that are added to the game directory that modify how it operates, rather than a completely separate program that has its own directory.

Does OpenMW "modify" Morrowind? Well, in a sense, yes. It runs the Morrowind esm file and does so in a different way than the original exe. However this is not a useful way to describe OpenMW because it lacks the context that distinguishes its status as an entirely distinct program rather than a "mod", which may include . esp files, game files such as sounds, textures and meshes, or script files, and could be used to modify the operation of OpenMW and or Original Morrowind. Words have meanings for a reason, and terms of art such as "mod" have their own particular meanings separate from and in addition to their root words, that impart specific information particular to their usage. Your inability to understand or accept this nuance does not make you enlightened, intelligent, or educated.

In a similar vein, is not Oblivion Remastered just an Oblivion mod? Yes, it essentially is. But it is also a distinctly different program that runs UE on top of Oblivion's engine. So it is not useful to refer to Oblivion Remastered as a mod, since mods are instead things you apply to Oblivion Remastered or Original Oblivion, and Iike with Morrowind/OpenMW mods for either may not be compatible with the other.

Reman > Tiber Victim

>>713448465
Why would my noticing your lack of intellect bother anyone else?
You literally got mad because I used words properly.
At this point I still believe you were failed by the education system but I am beginning to allow for the possibility that you are actually simple minded.

>>713394030
>Almalexia is a backstabbing whore
Yeah, but she's a cute backstabbing whore
I'd let her kill me if she let me rawdog her once

>>713385014 (OP)
>Dagoth Ur
I remember hearing someone talk about the whole thing with him dreaming in real life described through numbers with double negative subtraction becoming additive and it amounted to 0 sum or something which had implictations for the metaphysics and it was such a cool and elegant way to explain it but I can't remember shit.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>713448982
You didn't use words properly, though. You still don't seem to understand what a "term of art" is.

>>713449102
>Spider centurion upper left
AMOGVS
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>>713448982
I'm not the guy you're having a discussion with, i already learned to not even try to do that with you, just letting you know how unpleasant your posts are even when observing from afar

>>713448852
> Is Oblivion Remastered a mod
Yes and thankfully you are beginning to understand as well.
I don't know why you don't want openmw to be considered a mod as there is no negative connotation to being a mod.
There was no need to deny objective reality.

>>713449108
You are allowed your own opinions.
You are not allowed your own definitions.

I treat OpenMW more like a framework to be honest

>>713449241
What a fortunate turn of events for the other anon.
I am glad you showed up to support him in his time of need.

>>713426509
>Thieves guild
It's cool if you got high sneak, otherwise the pickpocketing becomes a nightmare. You can get around the other stuff through spells with invis/chameleon but harder with sneak. Could put together a fortify skill Sneak spell though. As it is, the sneak skill is one of those where it only gets good at higher levels, otherwise it just flat out doesn't work.

>>713449267
Wrong. You essentially just admitted you don't know what you're talking about.

>>713449341
It's not my definition. I didn't make it up. I'm literally telling you how the term "mod" is used in terms of video game modding. Your refusal to accept it may satisfy your own delusions of correctness and superiority, but to all outside observers you merely appear foolish. You are welcome to hide in the safety of your own solipsism if you wish. But we all see you, even if you close your eyes and ears to us.

>>713449387
that's fair.

>>713449456
See, that's another unhealthy habit of yours, you need to accept the fact that you are an infamous 4chan schizo hated by everybody in this micro-community who bothers reading your posts, not a regular anon unfairly persecuted by a singular person

>>713449758
You getting mad about people using words correctly is strictly a you problem.
Throwing a tantrum because somebody won't use your ,metaphorical, preferred pronouns is not going to win you any fans.

>>713449867
Lies. LiesLiesLiesLiesLIES
I
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Iam THe Schizo. THE. We. Me. I.

All posts in this thread and board are literally me, including this one. Thisw hole thread is just m.e. Arguing with myself.
Me me me
I've realized the truth and that is that the notmes aren't the problem. Notmes dont exist.
Literally all me.
Always has been
I'm my own worst enemy
It's in the word. Enemy. EneMY.
Ene-ME. Don't you see it? Of course YOU don't. Of course you DO. Because I do. There is no Y O U. Only M E.

>>713449867
Tell yourself what you have to to get through the day.

why are the voices in my head arguing about the most insignificant shit imaginable
and why am I asking them

Morrowindfag has grown tired of waiting for Rolstonfags return he mantled Rolstonfag.
We are through the looking glass people.

Great thread!

>>713450292
Only a fool would think that the strict dictionary definition is the only way to use a word correctly. That isn't even how language works. Language is nuanced and its meaning is defined by how it is used, not by how that definition is written in a book. That's why the books are updated every so often. Language evolves faster than the dictionary is updated. Words can have contextual connotations that are not present in dictionary definitions.

Does OpenMW mod the experience known as "Morrowind"? Yes. But it significantly does not modify the operation of Morrowind Exe. It does nothing to the original game. It is its own program that runs the game's files. It is explicitly described as "not a mod" by its own creators. Simply calling it a mod is reductionist and fails to accurately describe what it is and does.

You're talking about "winning fans", but you're the only one here that thinks the way you do. You're the one who is alone. I don't need to "win fans" because 1- my assertions are already accepted by the majority, and 2- they are objectively correct regardless of that fact.

>>713449102
Read
>>713412018
I can explain more if you are interested
but it is fully explained in the sermons
his body died and his spirit is tethered to the heart of lorkhan and his spirit is dreaming his own perfect reality that is focused on what he thinks is truth but it is solipsistic/delusional and it is the inversion of how the universe works/opposite of the secret tower described in Sermon 21
His dreaming soul when it dreams "astral projects" into Nirn through Heart of Lorkhan hence why he is immortal because when you destroy his body it is just his dream projection of his self
To defeat him you need to sever his tether to the Heart so he no longer has a way to project his dreaming self into Nirn
He is also not necessarily aware of all of this completely, as far as he is concerned he is liberating Dunmer and then later Nirn from shackles of oppression and he intends to take down the empire and even Gods by introducing his divine disease to the entire world
but the divine disease traps the minds of all who have it in his solipsistic dream locking them away from all other truths hence it is a metaphysical dead end

>>713450420
I could say the same to you, who is literally coping by creating a conspiracy theory that multiple anons are actually one anon samefagging to support himself. LMAO

>>713451093
Don't understand why calling a mod a mod bothers you.
I hope you get over it.

>>713451305
You say coping I say noticing.

Are you trying to sell random people monitor the thread and only join in when you get into an argument?
Not only that but all your fans all recognize me as somebody I am not. Not a one has a different opinion than you.
I find that odd.

>>713451532
I've explained why already, you are unable to understand because of autism. It's not a mod as defined by the creators. You don't install it onto morrowind like a mod, in fact you install mods onto it like you would Morrowind.

>>713439031
AFAIK, Morag Tong stuff is kept exclusively within the Dunmer. The writs are presumably authorized by the heads of the guild itself, with everyone understanding their legality and place in society. Certain targets are probably off-limits for various reasons. I imagine now that Morrowind is friendly with the Empire, Imperial military bases and other officials Imperial territory is a safe-zone since murder is illegal under Imperial law.

Hiring an assassin is probably very expensive and there's no guarantee that they'll be successful. If you have a political rival who you try to have killed and it doesn't succeed, word will probably spread that it was you who did it and your connections and reputation will weaken, now that people know you'll stoop to that level. Anyone who is remotely worried about the Morag Tong will also keep bodyguards around them at all times as well, and I'm willing to bet they charge exponentially more depending on how difficult the target will be to kill.

So you can see how an officially sanctioned assassin's guild wouldn't actually change how society operates very much. It seems ridiculous at face value, but it's important to realize that it's completely legal to defend yourself against an assassin. That becomes the new meta. Also, you need to 1. be famous and wealthy, and 2. have made significant enemies to even be considered as a target in the first place. Regular joe dark elves don't worry about them at all.

>>713451883
LOL
All anons being anon as it were, as far as I can tell it's just one other guy that just finds you unpleasant. This is an active thread with multiple people posting in it, do you really think it strange that more than one person responds to your posts? Do you think there's only two people reading the thread at a time?

No one has disagreed with me because, as I said, my assertions are accepted by the majority. They are not my fans, they're just normal people who understand that OpenMW is not a mod. You know what I find odd?

You. You are odd. You are the odd one out. Your opinions are the abberation.

>>713452027
And I told you words have meanings and I will continue to use them correctly.
You can keep telling me why you don't like that but it won't make me use words incorrectly.

>>713427217
Let's use a car analogy. Cars have engines, games have engines. Say you have a car. You can modify that car, aesthetically or functionally. You can put bodykits, decals, tint windows, whatever. You can replace parts in the engine to inprove performance, spark plugs headers, air intakes, turbos, etc. All of this modifies the way the car looks or works.

That is not what OpenMW is. OpenMW is like if someone reverse engineered the car, and built their own engine based on it, but improved. They then put the same frame and body around that engine, so it looks and runs like the original car, but better. But it's not an engine swap, no, the original engine and car is all still there. You can modify the new car and its engine and this has no impact on the original car.

>>713452373
You seem to have a pathologic need to be seen as being in the majority.
Odd since you seem to champion Morrowind as the greatest TES game.

You are clearly part of a tiny minority on that one.

>>713453017
Yes I understand why you think the mod should not be called a mid.
Doesn't change the fact it is a mod.

>>713453032
I don't have a need, I simply am.
>Odd since you seem to champion Morrowind as the greatest TES game.
Now you're entering real schizo territory here, and associating me with things that I never said, and you seem to be imagining all Morrowind fans as one person.

>>713453245
So you agree Morrowind is a mediocre game with a great main quest?

>>713453165
>mid
Are you getting stressed out now? Are your fat fingers slipping onto the wrong keys? Take a little break, chum. It's OK to be wrong. OpenMW will never be a mod no matter how much you claim otherwise. You're saying the creators of OpenMW are wrong too? That's funny. You're funny.

Sotha Sil is a pointless member of the tribunal.

>>713453464
It isn't my claim that it is a mid. It is the definition of mid that makes it a mid.
OMG how embarrassing I have typed mid instead of mod. All my points are now invalid.
Curse you fat fingers. You have betrayed me.

>>713453534
he's an ideas guy

>>713453379
Morrowind is a great but flawed game. Its strengths are in its lore and world building, and the writing of the main quest. I wouldn't even say it has a great main quest, a huge part of it, mostly the hortator section, is kind of lame. But even if the game is technically inferior in many respects to its sequels, it has a charm that they lack.

>>713453534
I swear there's a series of books where he's pretty prominent and active but I can't remember what it was called. I think it was about the settling the Armistice and might be historical fantasy in-universe. I'm about 2 seconds away from booting the game up and digging through Jobasha's, somebody help me out here

>>713453925
could be worse anon
like ESO addition

>>713453803
Look, you're not wrong because you made a type, you're wrong regardless of it. I'm just worried that you're getting too stressed over all this, hitting the wrong keys and all. Take a breather.

>>713388192
>he doesn't want to be an incelephant
What the actual fuck is wrong with you?

>>713453925
>>713454026
2920
>https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:2920,_The_Last_Year_of_the_First_Era
It's "well-researched historical fiction" apparently.

>>713451883
Nta but your posts are prevalent and annoying enough that more than one person finds you annoying and will say so

>>713453534
I agree. Him not existing has the same exact impact as him existing on TES lore.

>>713453919
So that is a long-winded way of saying Morrowind is the greatest TES game ever.
Why deny things you are just going to confirm with the next post?
Oh you are still pretending to be multiple anons.

>>713387075
That is more to show hwo powerful and badass Divayth Fyr is than naything Dagoth related imo.

An unplanned side effect at best.

>>713454847
NTA but you are clearly lying.

>>713387075
only works on the nerevarine, everyone else just dies

>>713455276
Well you're wrong. Pretty much any post is liable to have two different people responding to it, and when you post as much as you do, more than one person ends up talking to you

>>713455652
Then just make everyone the nerevarine.
That's what Dagoth was going for anyway. The only two people are him and Nerevar, everyone else is just arranging furniture for their reunion.

>>713455127
There's more than one Morrowind fan who argue with you when you keep coming into these threads arguing Morrowind isn't good

>>713388192
>bard that doesn't need to carry around an instrument
Imagine not wanting to be that

>>713455127
It's not the greatest ever, I wouldn't even say there is a greatest TES game as they all do different things well. Oblivion's combat, while also flawed, is definitely better than Morrowind, and the quests are more complex and engaging. The music and atmosphere are top notch. The daily schedule makes the world much more dynamic. But the RPG mechanics are cut down, leveling system manages to be worse, the level scaling turns the game into a treadmill, the oblivion gates are a slog, and the leveled loot is retarded with bandits having glass armor and daedric weapons at high levels. But I still have fond memories of Oblivion despite its flaws. Skyrim I don't like because they cut dow the skills and stats too much for my taste. The magic system is very simplified too, even though they added cool things like dual wielding spells and flamethrower casting. I will admit though that the combat is more visceral than the previous entries. Skyrim is my least favorite, but I wouldn't say Morrowind is "greater" than it because Skyrim is more technically advanced. My ideal game would be Skyrim but maintaining the attributes and skills complexity of Morrowind, and with the level of lore and world building of Morrowind, with Oblivion's music. Daggerfall now, probably has the most skill and attribute complexity out of all of them. The largest world too. But it's not very deep despite its breadth, and the labyrinthine dungeons just are not fun as everything looks the same. It's a game that hasn't aged well, but I can totally understand how Daggerfall fans saw Morrowind as a downgrade in the same way that the RPG elements have been downgraded from Morrowind to Oblivion to Skyrim.

Also I'm not pretending to be multiple anons, multiple anons are in fact posting. But seeing you sperg out and insist that we are the same person is amusing, so keep doing it.

>>713455839
So your defense is you have been here the entire time and waited until now to post or are you claiming you just showed up, instantly recognized me, and then felt compelled to reply?

Doesn't matter. Both would be lies.

>>713456426
You don't need to become an elephant flutesquid to do that though. You can just sing. People can sing you know.

>>713456818
No I just showed up and read your posts. Why is this so impossible in your mind? Do you think everyone shows up when the thread starts and no one else comes in?

>>713456818
Lol, your persecution complex is hilarious. How do you know he "waited until now" to post? He could have been posting this entire time.

>>713455929
When have I argued Morrowind isn't good in this thread?
The downside of copypasting replies is they don't always fit.

>>713456818
They are all lies, because every post ITT is literally me. I won't waste my time clicking every post to say "all me". Because the only one who will read it is me, and I already know all these posts are me. Me me me

>>713456846
Singing doesn't even come close to the apocalyptical powers of bard instruments

>>713456960
Where have I claimed I was persecuted?
That sounds like an admission through projection.
Sorry if you feel persecuted.

>>713457230
Like what? You can do all bard powers with song.

The only good thread in this shitstain of a board... I kneel Morrowind chads.

>>713456921
Sure just happened by recognized an anonymous post and felt compelled to reply.

Sounds believable.

>>713457306
Your claims suggest that either:
A. One anon is samefagging to make it seem like more people disagree with you than actually do
Or
B. There is a conspiracy of anons that lurk the threads waiting for you to post so they can pounce and argue with you.

Neither are true, both suggest persecution. I'm not suggesting that you claimed to be persecuted, I'm saying that your assertions reflect someone who feels persecuted. I'm not sure how that could be projection on my part since I'm not claiming anything that could be interpreted as persecution, whereas you are.

>>713457420
When you have such a distinct and unpleasant posting style that a random person who frequents these threads can recognize you on sight, yes it is. You have no one to blame but yourself.

>>713456846
>You can just sing. People can sing you know.
This sent my sides into orbit anon, holy shit

>>713457420
I just saw you posted a ton in this thread so I buy the idea you're a chronic poster

>>713385487
>he spreads fucking corprus for fuck sake
That's just LGBT culture. Don't be a bigot

>>713457884
What gave it away?
My posting as anonymous?
Curses, foiled again.

>>713457714
What was my most unpleasant post?

>>713458173
Well I assumed you were the same person who was arguing against the same guy and who kept saying only one person was samefagging against him

>>713458173
AI can identify and categorize anonymous posters based on posting style. It stands to reason that human intellect can do the same, especially if a poster's style is distinct. For example, it is clear from this post that you also posted >>713453803
As they have similar styles

>>713458420
long way down...

>>713458295
If I had to pick...
>>713447702

>>713458295
Just the whole thing where you argue whether or not OpenMW qualifies as a mod or not, and then going on to accuse everyone of being a samefag. Generally the way you speak not to listen or have a conversation but to goad someone down something you've already decided

>>713458595
Oh yeah that was awful

>>713458829
sunder and keening

>>713458829
idk why i have this

>>713458748
It was, just downright nasty, and really telling on yourself as to what a vile human being you are, just full of negativity and a unwarranted sense of superiority.

>>713458595
It was all warranted though. Truth hurts sometimes.

>>713458670
The posts where I used words correctly set you off?
Odd trigger.

>>713459075
That honestly looks pretty fucking cool

>>713459431
Yeah that one's in my wallpaper rotation. IIRC the anon that posted this one said it was TES fanart

>>713459134
See this is what I mean. You're wrong, you've been wrong, but you still claim that your vitriol is warranted because it's the "truth" (it's not). I can't even say "he's an asshole, but he's right". You're just a dumb asshole that's wrong but will never admit it.

>>713459235
You were very smarmy about it without ever really making a strong argument that the term 'mod' can't include engine ports, and it was a weak tangent to go on anyways because it was a distraction from your original point that Morrowind is not seeing some sort of resurgence in OpenMW. I myself downloaded OpenMW and Tamriel Reborn after playing Oblivion Remastered, having never really gotten the hang of Morrowind in the past, for what it's worth.

>>713459235
Your tendency to mischaracterize people's posts and engage in flagrant reductionism is just one of your many bad points. You know that's not what he found unpleasant. He said what he found unpleasant, and it had nothing to do with correct use of words.