Why did Toby ruin her?

>>713385064 (OP)
She was always bad, starting in UT

>>713385064 (OP)
This is the thread. We're back. And Toby is just using Deltarune to show a more "realistic" side to the Undertale cast. Basically think of your favorite cartoon but "what if they lived normal lives" cliche.

She's just one of those women who are only nice to children.

>>713385064 (OP)
Toriel was never good.

>>713385064 (OP)
Classic tranny mindset of trying to "subvert expectations and standards"

Is this the new thread?

>>713385064 (OP)
https://files.catbox.moe/zjsab5.mp4

>>713385064 (OP)
I'm still cooming to Toriel. She's just to hot. I can't help it.

>>713385064 (OP)
What plot thread are you guys most excited to see resolved in the upcoming chapters? Bonus points if it has nothing to do with shipfaggotry

>>713385064 (OP)

I think for the sake of managing expectations, people should at least consider that the festival might not happen in chapter 5. The setup for the flower king dark world, the dark world itself, and whatever fallout it has, could take place in the morning before the festival and be plenty of content to fill a chapter. All of the foreshadowing for chapter 5 relates to the flower king and not the festival, too.

I actually think this could be likely since chapter 6 seems to be a big turning point before the author is "swallowed up" by his creation in chapter 7. It would make for a great set piece to have the entire town gathered together for whatever crazy shit is going to go down.

>>713385581
Whatever happened to Ramb.

>>713385064 (OP)
That scene where she groomed and molested Susie was really unnecessary

Toriel did nothing wrong

>>713385581
I can't believe the onion is fucking dead

Say it.

This board has been so infested with Deltarune threads I'm caving in and going to play Undertale. I've been spoiled on some part simply from pop culture but I haven't watched anything. Is there something I should know before playing?

>>713385749
It's a parallel for when Dess groomed and molested Kris.

>>713385791
I HATE TV

>>713385570
You're a cuck, we know

>>713385581
Kris and the Knight's relationship. Prophecy, Ralsei and his connection to the Dreemurrs.

>>713385791
RESIST

>>713385570
Architectural

>>713385581
gaster, kris' trauma or the weird music in the lake
starsector is already edging me enough with the unresolved "spooky music" plot point, I don't need another game to do the same

>>713385816
just dont kill anything

>>713385791
I LOVE TV!

Sure hope this is 'the thread,' because I got 'the results.'
Over the course of the last two threads, we have reached a democratic consensus of the hottest pieces of Deltarune booty.

All hail our Tasque Manager! She's the random miniboss that stole the show.
As it is within the game itself, Noelle is in second place. All is right with the world.
And Ralsei, despite not being a girl, tied with my own personal best girl Catti. Well done to them, both.

Thank you to all those that voted.

I don't really spend much time in the DR community. What do people think of the implications that the town is sealed off from the outside world, with the internet being down and the TV only getting reruns? There's plenty of possibilities, but I lean towards the idea that the town and its inhabitants literally popped into existence when the game began with invented histories and relationships, since it mirrors Toby's metanarrative obsessions.

>>713385816
The only real routes are genocide (cringe gay retard) or pacifist (true ending.) Just pick one and stick with it all the way.

>>713385791
I LOVE TV!

DAILY REMINDER
>noelle is only attracted to susie because of a fetish
>her love for susie is based entirely on the persona susie put on rather than the real susie
>her crush on susie is so flimsy that she tries to fuck kris instead when you make him act like a psychopath

>>713385610
>All of the foreshadowing for chapter 5 relates to the flower king and not the festival, too.
Except the Weird Route ending being exclusively about Noelle meeting us there.
The swallowed up Chapter is 6.

>>713385791
I LOVE EMAIL!

>>713385610
Yeah, this is a real possibility
However, the festival is tomorrow so Idk where you'd fit that in

>>713385791
I LOVE WATCHING TV!

>>713385892
we will see the rest of the town in chapter 5, the festival will be happening where undyne put the police tape

>>713385581
Really just Kris' entire deal. like y'know tugging us along and his promise and what not

>>713385843
I don't like that kind of content.

>>713385816
don't listen to this >>713385913 nigger. play genocide after pacifist for the true undertale experience.

>>713385791
I LOVE TV.
>>713385816
Not much. Just play how you want, and if you want tips for next playthrough, spare the final boss.

>>713385892
eyup. they will live on in your heart

>>713385581
Whatever's on the other side of the lake and whatever's behind the police tape
Shelter too

>>713385887
WHERE'S ELNINA

>>713385863
>*STOMP STOMP STOMP* Oh merry Krismaaas~! *STOMP STOMP STOMP* MRS CLAUS PRESENT SACK NEEDS SOME COOKIES & MILK

>>713385892
The entire setting of Deltarune takes place in the dark world that Gaster created. That's why it's "his" Deltarune. It's the actual creation that he's said to fall into, and it's what Gerson is foreshadowing by saying the auther gets swallowed up by his creation in chapter 7.

>>713385791
THE [Tragic businesmen] THAT [Died] AT THE [Now] OF THE [Story]

>>713385816
Just don't kill anything
Then do a playthrough where you do kill everything (until random encounters stop showing up)
If there's no dialogue change at all after doing a thing 2-3 times try something else

>>713385610
I'm guessing either the festival happens in the morning and Kris and Susie end up in the flower shop for whatever reason, or the festival happens after the dark world parts and it ends in a cliffhanger of some sort. Those are my guesses anyway, for all I know Toby could pull anything off.

>>713385863
Noelle... Easy on the eggnog...

>>713385947
It isn't. I even posted a screenshot for all of the people who misread that line

Reddit undertale sub has a tranny flag in the title
I think i'll just skip this one guys

>>713385570
MOAR

>>713385816
Have fun, and don't kill anyone. As long as you do that, you can get the true ending. It's a really cute game.

>>713386079
Chapter 6. The swallowed up chapter is the one after 5.

I think the intended sentiment of genocide route falls flat to me because I have never once enjoyed the act of grinding and I actively consider a game to be badly designed if you're expected or required to do it at any point just to progress.

>>713386060
Tied for 4th place of the Dark World characters, and 8th place overall.
Sorry, cloud-bro.

>>713386068
>>713386137
It's surprising all the architect content went to Noelle, I'd have thought Susie would get it

I'm not attracted to Toriel anymore....

Atleast I still have alphys

>>713385581
I want to know what the predicted tragedy is.
I want to know what the FUCK is up with the Egg-related stuff.
I'm curious as to what the ocean/water thread is.
Obviously, the Bunker.
What's up with the pink-yellow stuff?

>>713386197
It is not. This is a very common misreading of what Gerson says. He says there's one more chapter after 5 and THEN after that, nothing else was written because the author was swallowed up.

>>713386148
The one more chapter is the one that swallowed him up. There’s no chapter 7.

>>713385964
>Continuing to spread [[Hyperlink Blocked]] since [[Favorite Year]]
I love it

>>713385791
YOUR TAKING TOO LONG

>>713385751
>Toriel did nothing wrong
True. She's just making money to send Kris to university. I wish all the anons in this thread had such a wonderful mother.

>>713386081
I wonder what kind of impact a dead Tenna would have later on
You can't kill King or Queen

>>713386243
Took you too long, she was always a whore

What does a human and monster hybrid look like?

>>713385887
bros we won

Why does Kris get all edgy when you pick "I'm not a dream" when talking to Susie?

Why did Kris do it?

>>713386353
Name 1 sexually immoral thing she did in undertale.

>>713386285
Chapter 5, The Field of Pink and Gold.
The vast garden is charred in an inferno of jealousy.
…What happens next? Geheheh! Who knows There was only one more chapter… After that, It all stopped.

>After that
>After that
>After that
>After that

Played Undertale years ago, should I replay it before playing Deltarune? Is this a continuation, prequel, or alternate timeline for Undertale or just one of those things where it's a completely different story but just reused previous characters with some different personality traits?

>>713386367
like the amalgamates

>>713385863
>>713386068
>>713386137
UH OH, BIG

>>713386446
LISTEN TO ME AND ONLY ME. UNDERTALE IS NOT CONNECTED TO DELTARUNE. IT IS ALTERNA

>>713386446
Not a required reading.

>>713386172

>>713386417
He's also like that when you pick "Your friendships are real." But if you pick "Sucks to be you" the dialog with Susie is surprisingly wholesome.

>>713386367
probably depends on the mother
monster father + human mother = human child with some superficial monster traits
monster mother + human father = monster child with some superficial human traits
or it's completely random what the mother pops out, they're either fully monster looking or fully human looking

>>713386506
I need more goat mom CULO
exposed

>>713386439
Yes. After the chapter that swallowed him up.

>>713386482

>>713386482
She is beautiful

>>713386309
>I wish all the anons in this thread had such a wonderful mother.
KEK sure

>>713386446
Ignore the previous two bozos that replied to you. You CAN understand deltarune without playing undertale, but the game is literally designed for someone who has played undertale and is familiar with the characters.

That said, if you already played undertale and know how it goes, then it's fine. Just hop on Deltarune.

SO THEN WHAT WAS CHAPTER 6

>>713385064 (OP)
she'd have turned out the same way in underfag if she had come with you

>>713386417
I think he thought it was corny or that you were trying to hit on Susie, maybe?

Why did toby remove this dialogue from the game?

>>713386482
I'll take the real yellow-eyed deal

>>713386446
No, no need to replay it, it's enough if you have played it before (the game says it's for people who have played Undertale). It's an alternate story with some of the characters appearing in both.

>>713386446
It's the latter but it's recommended you know Undertale because the two games rhyme with each other.

>>713385064 (OP)
>Why did Toby ruin Toriel "if he won't be my child he can live on the wild" Dreemur?

>>713386616
Susie can't spell or pronounce that

>>713385581
what the fuck Ralsei is
Asriel coming home
Getting to see Papyrus again
Rudy fucking dying
getting the prophecy BTFO
Rescuing Ramb to get the best item in the game
Weird Route to unlock chapter 8
Eggs to go to chapter 8 in a non-weird route save
Nubert's arc

>>713386616
Because this is the same character who struggles to say regenerate correctly

>>713386542
I get the feeling that anthropomorphic monsters probably reached their forms via human genetics entering the tree.

Somewhere along the way, some human fucked a deer monster, and then her children stood up.

>>713386616
"Degenerate" is not a word that should be in Susie's vocabulary, but it's still lame he changed something else

>>713386525
When you pick "Your friendships are real" he tries to sound like a hero. Susie says he sounds creepy when he says "I'm not a dream".

>>713386417
because it's a corny line that kris wouldn't normally say and is taking the piss with it, same with 'your friendships are real'
the actual correct line is 'sucks to be you', because he and susie are edgelords who razz each other, susie laughs then gets a bit sentimental, saying it was stupid they didn't become friends earlier

>>713386446
It was stated to be for people who played undertale
We don't have the full picture of how they're related but it seems to be an alternate universe of some kind

>>713386594
That's where Mike hangs out

I fucking hate this guy. I hope snowgrave ends up with us killing hometown and we get to freeze his ass.

>>713386550
>exposed
I don't want to get banned, sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crgVmabTDbg
The nip side of the fandom is having a good time

>>713386482
can't believe susie is canonically shoop da whoop's daughter

>>713386616
Did he remove it? Sauce? Which version is the one without it? I just replayed it, and I think it had this line.

>>713386482
He's right.

>>713386747
He's literally me.

>>713386597
This. Both options are very corny

>>713386616
because despite it being funny that susie of all people would call anyone a degenerate, there is no way she would know and use that word properly, especially when she struggles to write the letter to alvin later

>>713386571
>That next book, it never did get written.
>next book
You would think that spending 24/7 in these threads for months, you'd learn to read

>>713386787
FAT CAT SEXO!!!!

>>713386616
What if it's not milk, but cum?

>>713385863
She gets her eating habits from her mother.

>>713386767
Why does Japan love UTDR so much anyway? It can't just be because Toby is a huge weeb himself.

>>713385965
Easy 2 chapters in the same day. Morning and evening

>>713386767
post more. I wish to know the nips' general thoughts on chapters 3 and 4.

I wish sans was my mom...

>>713386747
he's an ass but he's giving kris a reality check, his family are freaks who make fools of themselves in public
freak family

I need Asriel with a belly like this so Asgore and him can squish me between their bellies.

>>713386663
>Rescuing Ramb to get the best item in the game
Anon, he's dead. Give up.

>>713386060
1) She's new.
2) She's taken. Which obviously isn't going to stop people, but will matter to SOME people.

>>713386275
Or we just don't know because he didn't describe what the 6th one would be. We are reading far too much into it.

it's not just the sans and toriel stuff
it's also that bloodstain that toriel doesn't even seem to think about but susie is clearly worried about
it's the parallels to queen, how she drinks and how she's fun but not really interested in kris as a person
it's the weird helicopter parenting she did to asriel and kris and her much harsher view of their religion

it's not that scene alone that tells you toriel is bad
it's everything else around it as well

>>713386770
she says "furry freak" now instead

>>713386767
They always are. I understand why Toby loves them so much.

>>713385791
Absolute cowabungadero

>>713386876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2rziGtwWVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Tlmb_4NmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l427yDaNgKM
These are the others I've seen

>This is canon

>>713386970
You're right that we don't know anything about 6, but it's perfectly clear that it got written, then the author was consumed.

>>713386651
One look at Kris's room should tell you all you need to know about Toriel

>>713386705
>end game route is just rping as kris

>>713385880
>>713385913
>>713386018
>>713386021
>>713386113
>>713386186
Alright that sounds right. I did end up learning that there were three endings but I always figured the names were pretty descriptive, (Pacifist, Kill No One. Genocide, Kill Everyone. Nootral, somewhere in between) Is there an order between them I should shoot for because I know there's something that tracks game completions.

>>713386225
Susie has more, but Noelle content is posted more frequently here

>>713386832
Yes, next book is the next chapter, because Lord of the Hammer is a series of books. He wrote six, then he couldn't write the seventh.

>>713386616
it's a relic of early susie before she was flanderized as a retard

>>713386787
i dont know why people here say toby hates asgore when he clearly hates catti

>>713386383
Hell yeah, motherfucker.

>>713387037
Why did Toby do it? Are his mommy issues this strong?

>>713387110
He's swallowed up after 6, yes. If we don't disagree then I don't know what the point in this is

>>713387086
Don't kill anyone until you get the true ending. Then play again and grind as much as you can.

>>713387137
>character is sidelined (because they're not that important)
>muhh toby HATES them
actual pussies, the lot of you

>>713386767
10/10

>>713387016
I wonder what the general consensus and thoughts on the chapters are. I wonder if they got the nuance in Kris, Susie and Noelle's triangle. At the very least they seem to like Tenna

>>713387062
ramb would do so much better as a mother for kris it's not even funny

The end of the sword corridor needs to nerfed immediately, can't believe unraping Noelle took priority over this.

>>713386787

>>713385816
Pacifist after Genocide for the truest realest ending.

>>713385892
>with the internet being down and the TV only getting reruns?
how long is the internet stated to be down for? considering noelle has an online blog surely it hasnt been down for long

>>713387086
Pacifist first is usually the way to go
Neutral has a bunch of different ending conversations depending on who's dead but it doesn't have much of a point and kind of feels like a waste of 8-10 hours

>>713387081
people have been guessing that since ch2 when they realized that kris can change wording he doesn't like and inflect tone
a 'kris route' probably involves speaking to as few people as possible and being a goblin with susie

>>713385863
SHE'S SWELLING UP

I'm going to FUCK Elninaposters.

>>713385064 (OP)
>Why did Toby ruin her?
He didn't. She was a passive-aggressive moralist bitch who tells her eggshusband what a faggot he is for not doing anything definite about the barrier while secluding in the ruins fattening herself with pies and boner jokes. She says Asgore could've used the first soul to pass through the barrier and then grab the rest of human souls needed yet she did nothing with that knowledge, she just waited on her smelly throne waiting for a whiff of fallen human children while oblivious of her own being near her.

>>713385863
>>713386470
Wanna squeeze and play with that gut

>>713387452
wouldn't you rather fuck elnina

>>713387515
I will do BOTH.

>>713387137
>Constantly having a good time hanging out with her best friend Jockington
>Can't believe how much Toby HATES her

toriel butthole please my cock

>>713387048
Why are we assuming whoever it is got consumed

>>713386987
Oh damn, that is true. I just checked the first version released and a later version

>>713387016
I genuinely laughed at these. >>713387215
I just don't think Chapter 7 is the "swallowed up" Chapter. 6 would fit more because Gaster number.

>>713385791
I LOVE TV

>>713387306
Just don't stand on the red lines lmao

>>713385064 (OP)
trooby is jewish and a closeted tranny. should have got out when you saw the writing on the walls in undertale.

>>713385064 (OP)
Just diluting the idyllic image of her from you mind, imagine if DR ends with her getting cucked instead.

Toriel always sucked, remember to replay undertale genocide so you can kill her and sans as much as you want.

COMING STRAIGHT FROM YOUR HOUSE
COMING straight from YOOOOUR HOUSE
COMING
HE'S THE ONE
C U M M I N G

Why is Dess like this?

God-damn, chapter 3 has to be the worst chapter yet
You can just tell it was rushed, and they had to throw something together because they were taking too long
Also, the zelda ripoff game is hot garbage

>>713387086
Pacifist first. Genocide is optional, hard, unintuitive, and only really pays off if you already know how the story is meant to play out.

Neutral ending(s) are mostly just fun 'what if you kill X character but let Y live' scenarios, you can check them in youtube if you care but it's just additional content honestly. In of the opinion that fandom aside, the game really doesn't want you to see these.

>>713387213
He's trying to appeal to a Japanese audience.

>>713387306
It's not that bad once you get used to it. The split attack on phase 3 can fuck you up much more in case of a particularly nasty rng. And besides, I think fights like these should have a bit of bullshit to them, adds more character

>>713387614
It's a line from the Gerson fight where he's foreshadowing the whole game. These lines >>713386832
>>713387657
To be consistent with Gerson's dialogue, it could be at the very end of 6 at the earliest. Which would make for a great cliff hanger, so maybe it's likely even.

>>713385791
I LOVE TV!

>>713387314
literally me.

>>713387782
Post the mother fucking source right now. Please.

>>713387691
It's a random ass attack, it comes too fast and you have almost no time to think, sometimes there's no obvious safe zones or they aren't close to you, the hitboxes are completely unfair. It needs to be nerfed.

Man, I'm seeing some old fan arts of Tenna and the Knight before the release of chapter 3 and they fucking suck

I wonder if it will happen the same with Dess

>>713386832
He's referring to his next book tho

>>713387746
How the fuck can she get cucked?

>>713387916
share some, i'm curious

>>713386421
The better question is why wouldn't you?

>>713386421
Because I told him to.

>>713387782
For the love of GOD, SAUCE.

>>713387798
You are correct, sadly
It's clear he tried to do way too much with it and ended up not even having time to include a plot or theme

>>713388003
DOE EROTIC….

>>713387916
The fans are always retarded and can neve match Toby's energy and style

om nom snorf nom om snorb nom om nom blurb num
hey kris what are you up to over there?
om nom nom splurf glub nom

>>713387798
4 > 3 > 2 > 1

>>713387493
Yeah, but she wasn't a whore.

>>713387940
We kill sans and Asgore fucks Alphys or Carol.

>>713387086
There are like 2.5 endings.
>don't kill anyone
Leads to the true ending. This is the best, absolutely do this first, this is what you want.
>kill some enemies but not everyone
Leads to the neutral path. The ending of this path is the just the pacifist but cut off early. The pacifist route has an extra few hours of content and it MUCH better. There isn't any difference other than that and a few lines of dialog. Not worth doing because it cannot lead to the true ending, you would have to replay the entire game again.
>kill everyone
Leads to the genocide ending. It is completely different than the other routes. Worth doing after you completed the pacifist run and you feel like you are now ready to massacre the friends you made along the way.

>>713388003
based

>>713388049
He can't keep getting away with it...

>>713387937
I think it's more reasonable to assume each chapter was its own book since Deltarune is going to have 7 chapters, and he only mentions 6. That is a valid reading of the lines, but unless he's foreshadowing Deltarune 2, I don't see it

Toriel regularly getting absolutely hammered with Ceroba and Carol

>>713387776
Why is Tenna always cumming...

>>713387617
>>713386616
>>713386987
Also I think "furry freak" is more like something Susie would say, so I like this change.

>>713388003
Doe sexo... I wonder if she still has her anal virginity, maybe that will be what she'll lose in the chapter 5 weird route?

>>713388003
>>713388112

>>713388063
4>2>1>Hot pile of shit>3

Wanted to share this pretty cool Ramb schizoboss theme here too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KdJcfmYvVU

>>713388003
>>713388112
cute kemonomimi children....

Ralsei fire magic next chapter

>>713387940
We gotta seduce Sans

>>713387798
skill issue

>if you choose to ignore closing your eyes and imagining what Susie is doing in chapter 4, you can choose to imagine the knight
>Kris starts to imagine the Knight taking off its helmet, fully knowing already who it is, but chooses not to so (You) don't get to know who
hm...

Tennabros... Don't look at this pic...

>>713388171
Cute horns

>>713388153
That's fair actually. Idk I take it more as ch 6/7 being shit hits the fan, with 7 being so fucked up that even the author would be like got damn

Stop making me want to fuck a deer

>>713385816
Try not to kill anyone or you'll have to play the game three times for all the content.

>>713388003
is this slop?

WAKE UP

>>713387782

>>713388063
2 and 3 are equal to me, but 2 edges it out because of snowgrave and the s ranks room being so strict

>>713387892
>>713388003
OC... from a certain place. Not quite unlike Dess, and her love for a certain kind of human.

Daily reminder - things Noelle has done with Susie:
>Creeped on her
>Projected her missing sister onto her
>Lied to her face about her friendship with Kris
Things Noelle HASN'T done with Susie:
>Put stickers on her face
>Taken her to the diner
>Used her as a weed whacker on a plate of cheese crackers
If anyone else interested in maintaining the Krusie agenda has anything important they think I missed out on please feel free to let me know

>>713385064 (OP)
He thought he was making her brave and quirky.

>>713388269
Oh yeah for sure. It's going to get insane

>>713388276
It's a hot nerdy one tho

>>713388276
Welcome to /k/

If Catti doesn't become important I'm going to kill Toby Fox

>>713388296
Why does she open her mouth like that?

>>713387940
asgore gets over her and starts a loving relationship with alphys
i feel like toriel would be petty enough to seethe at asgore getting a w

>>713388319
Kris working with the knight and lying to Susie about it

>>713387493
Finally someone that gets it. The fact everyone ignores this glaring flaw in her character drove me nuts for years.

The person in the code isn't Dess.

>>713388165
contrary to popular belief he is indeed sometimes glooby
that aside why does he make these freaky ass faces

>>713388257
Tenna… Had a hard life.

>>713387798
to be honest, chapter 3 is a desolated nonsense and the progression was sluggish.

>>713388319
Mutual shampoo tasting and sitting by the lake at night for a heart-to-heart

Dess rapes...

>>713388387
Why? She prays for his well being, put up a candle for him, and gets pissy at Carol for treating him like a maid bitch. She'd be happy for him FINALLY moving on, if anything.

>>713388065
An emotional affair is still an affair, anon.

>>713385610
I'm waiting for Toby to pull a homestuck and make the entirety of chapter 6 longer than all the chapters combined and leave chapter 7 as one single bossfight

>>713388458
but who's cumming?

>if you choose to ignore closing your eyes and imagining what Susie is doing in chapter 4, you can choose to imagine the knight
>Kris starts to imagine the Knight taking off its helmet, fully knowing already who it is, but chooses not to so (You) don't get to know who
hm...

>>713385064 (OP)
I thought Sans ruined her with his BSD(big skeleton dick)

>>713388319
Some other points for the second list:
>gone on multiple adventures with her
>slept over at her house (with her mom's approval to boot)
>helped her clean up a bloodstain in her room
>offered to let her smell her hair

>>713388307

>>713388257
>Asgore cucked
>Kris cucked
>Susie cucked
>Tenna cucked
>Asriel also cucked when he finds out
How did Toby manage to represent the average single mother so well?

>>713388509
ME

>>713387798
Your right and the Knight fight as well as Tenna's dialog revealing a lot about Kris is the only thing that keeps it from entirely being a disappointment.

Chapter 3 was good and if you didn't like it you have shit taste

>>713387798
I genuinely think chapter 3 was better than chapter 4

>>713388313
There's a weird amount of stuff in Ch 3 that's easy to lock yourself out of.
If it wasn't for that it'd be significantly improved.

>>713388458
Futa knight Dess and Kris will spitroast Noelle in chapter 5 weird route.

>>713388619
based and true

>>713387940
Ass gore fucks sans

>>713388257
>Toriel even traumatized her TV

ALL RISE

>you can have Susie tag along with you throughout the town to see Alphys outside her apartment
>Susie will hide out in the alley to avoid being seen by Alphys around Kris
>at the end of chapter 4, you can go to her place again
>Susie will say to instead go to Kris' home intead
>the other doors have you knock instead to no response
Hm...

>>713388409
He's a TV show host. Everything he does is going to be exaggerated and/or eccentric in an attempt to entertain

>>713388296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vObEK3Lbp4

>>713385418
TRVTHNVKE incoming: Toriel always sucked, in Undertale you just weren't around long enough to see it. Even then, she was a psychotic bitch, if she got her way with Frisk the kid would be basically totally alone for his entire life and be a maladjusted freakoid.

>>713388257
Post the next page.

I need more of this tomboy pedophile

>>713387798
say that again

>>713386675
>>713386686
>>713386827
>>713388168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbwA5I3I6xU
Some great jokes come from dumb characters saying something uncharacteristically smart. We all know the real, shitty reason the line was changed.

>>713388710
Susie also prevents you from interacting with the fourth grave in the graveyard.
Her real parents are dead and Alphys is "caring" for her, probably incredibly poorly since asocial nerds don't make good parents.

>>713388003
I'd really wanna ask toby if the 20 minute sex scene in ch4 weird route was really necessary

>>713388387
>She starts an argument over it
>Susie butts in, unable to keep her mouth shut over the blatant hypocrisy "Y'know that's funny. Toriel was getting pretty friendly with that short janitor guy just last night at her house. Isn't that weird?"
>Asriel walks in from off-screen to join the shit-show.

>>713385968
Thanks doc

>>713386470
The Friend inside Noelle (Me, the player) [She swallowed me whole] |I am disgesting in her several stomachs| *I am slowly dying as I get turned into pudge and then later shit which she will take a massive shit that Asgore will have to clean up*

>>713388820
>We all know the real, shitty reason the line was changed.
No?

>>713388803
The next page does not exist.

>>713388835
That's Gerson's grave, dumbass.

>>713388671

>>713388890
Furries got offended at being called degenerates.

>>713388926
Gerson's grave is the one on the left, retard. I'm talking about the one on the far right.

>>713388682
just imagine how fucking depressed the flowers at asgore's shop are going to be, i wouldn't be surprised if the schizoboss was a monster made of divorce papers or a loaded gun in his bedroom.

what if egg man is DR gaster and white text man is UT Gaster?

>>713385064 (OP)
>Undertale nendoroids
But I tought Toby Huss didnt want his shit sold in stores, or did he convert to Judaism?

>>713388926
Gerson's is the only one you can actually read with while having Susie around

>>713388812

>>713388940
And they're not offended by being called freaks?
It's obvious you're desperate to find something to get upset about. The line was changed because susie doesn't use four syllable words, get over it retard

>>713388971
>>713388995
*Shyren

Toriel is a big monster.

what's his deal? Unlike other followers he's already looking suspicious,even more than in UT,and he seem to be deliberately trying to block you from something

>>713388257
This is why you must give him to Mettaton.

>>713389127
>>713389127
>>713389127
>>713389127

>>713387798
4 > 3 > 2 (Weird Route) > 1 > 2 (Normal Route)

>I apologize for nothing.
>I like Susie and I wanted to add to this for my own purposes.
https://files.catbox.moe/mvrlt6.png

>>713389068
They're trying to take the word freak. They hate degenerate because the right uses it.

I stepped in a pile of dog chapter 3 on the way home from work...

Susie is like 15 MINIMUM she should not be this illiterate

>>713389242
Now get rid of the cock.

>>713389242
nice cock

>>713389127
PLAP PLAP PLAP *CRACK* AAH! FUCK! MY PELVIS IS FUCKING BROKEN!

>>713389350
>get rid of the cock
What are you, gay?

Pizzabro deserves better

>>713388295
her right hand has 6 fingers, yes

>>713389308
I was illierate for most of my teens.

>>713389280
But both sides gleefully call other people freaks and degenerates.

>>713386367
Idk

>>713388812
>>713389067
>Runs over the doe that raped their adoptive son
>Gets divorced for it
Why did Toriel do it

>>713389242
lovingly sculpted for femkris

>>713389068
connotations, faggot. degenerate is used all the time online to refer to pervy diddlers and call out porn addicts
freak is just a general insult, like circus freak

>>713389308
the mc's are 12-14, 15 at most, why do some people get the idea they are 16-17? that's incredibly retarded

>>713389502
They're in high school.

>>713386367

>>713388978
>The flowers don't quite become darkners, being plants...

>>713389502
catti and berdly have jobs
also, toriel says Kris is going to college soon

>>713388812

>>713389502
Parents doesn't usually talk about college to their kids when they are still 12-14.

>>713388257
I felt so sad for Tenna, bros.

>>713385064 (OP)
What do you mean?

>>713389127
>>713389381
Wait, so Toriel can literally kill Sans if she rides him?

>>713389068
>And they're not offended by being called freaks?
They're basically not being called freaks now. The joke in the line originally was that what Susie said mirrors what people online say about furries. The joke is basically killed now. In any case, yeah freak isn't considered as bad as degenerate.
>It's obvious you're desperate to find something to get upset about. The line was changed because susie doesn't use four syllable words, get over it retard
You're completely delusional. Given people already don't like changes to the game like this and loads of people loved the furry degenerate line to begin with you wouldn't change shit unless people were getting upset by it.

Get fucked, Kris

She look miserable when she does this face, JUST

why is nearly every relationship in this game fags? what is toby's problem, does he think gays make relationships more interesting or something?

>>713386367
I like to think they don't become abominations and remain the race of their Mother like in TES.

>>713389580
Wait, would those flowers even count as living beings at this point?

>>713389657
sanpaku

>>713385610
that also fits with the numbers on the website, because the festival would be where shit goes down on the weird route with us meeting noelle again
maybe we get to the festival at the end of chapter 5 but the cliffhanger happens before we leave the cutscene

>>713389714
It's just pandering.

>>713389714
The cat family
Lanino and lanina

Please shut up

>>713385064 (OP)
>has some fun with the person who shes destined to love having around, like undertale
>AAAAAAAA WHAT THE FUCK MOM I WAS (kris is responsible due to working with the knight) FUCKING AROUND WITH SUSIE ALL DAY IN A FOUNTAIN WE WOULDVE SEALED ANYWAY, WHY ARENT YOU TRAPPED IN A DARK WORLD
this fanbase is hilarious

>>713388296
Why is Toriel such a useless bitch?
>Spent the entire chapter sleeping

>>713389714
Would make the perfect subversion (since he's a faggot and loves that) if Pizzapants had a cataclysmic public freakout, quit his job and told off Blue Ears for catfishing him like a disingenuous creep.

>>713389580
darkners can be more than tools or simple objects, as shown how dust on an important thing can make the image of a person reappear under the right circusmtances. Considering that, maybe only the dead flowers are reborn in the dark world
>>713389530
>>713389592
>>713389621
oh, i forgot about that. (it would be a nice twist if susie is actually younger than everyone though but no one bothered to check since she's a large monster)

>>713389825
>Lanino and Elnina
Both of them still have a thing for Rouxls.

>>713389714
Uhm, sweaty, Kris and Susie are a straight couple.

>>713386752
>>713385570
>>713385064 (OP)
>>713386506

>>713389847
Getting blackout drunk and having no idea where your kid is, is bad parenting

>>713389625
An alternate universe where Kris fucked Toriel and made her his woman. Now she doesn't think about other men. This Toriel wouldn't give a damn about Sans since Kris fulfills all her needs.

>>713389937
You actually didn't play the game, they do not like him

>>713390010
yes they're sure of that
they think
probably

>>713390010
They find him annoying but hot.

>>713386747
Desert P?

>>713390010
They thought he was hot, but the weirdness was a turnoff.

>>713389989
>having no idea where your kid is
but she knew kris was just with susie
>B-BUT IT RAINED
what kind of pussy is kris for toriel to panic when hes out in the rain with a friend?

>>713390010
In 4, they are attracted to him

I am a cuckold and I defend Toriel.

>>713389625
God I love /ss/ Toriel. She's made for this.

>>713390010
Go to Castle Town right now and check the TV room.

>>713390010
They think he's hot as fuck, and feel strange when he molests them as a lampshade
Cant resiste the big kaard cocketh

>>713389657
>tfw you finally make a few friends after fucking things up for your entire life and then find out that that’s about to end the world

>>713389625
Holy sex I love huge bitches

Toby here. This is the only clue I shall give about Gaster.

>>713389825
there's actually a bit more than that but the fact that those are the only two you could muster to think of says a lot.

>>713386767
japs have shit taste and will never appreciate deltarune the way us TRUE and HONEST western fans do

>>713390213
Asgore...

>>713385581
WHERES PAPYRUS
>>713386059
>behind the police tape
The festival area will be there, where else would the put up a fucking ferris wheel etc?

>>713390213
asgore...

>>713390346
The 7 Flying Eggs...

>>713389502
They're in high-school, dude.

>>713390240
they think he has a small ass though

>YABBA DABBA DOE

>>713390389
... Oh, that makes sense.
I wonder what roadblock will be invented to keep us from trying to leave town through the festival grounds

>>713390357

>>713388790
This. You can see how flawed she is just from the fact that
>She lies to player
>Tries to stop player getting away to "keep them safe"(overprotective)
Quick addition, even if Asgore is going to kill the player, the fact she as an adult rather lets a kid go there than go and talk with Asgore is worrying. She already knows what fate other kids faced but doesn't do anything about it.
>Spends all her time in the ruins as escapism or rather dies than tries to actually talk through stuff with Asgore and others
She's a coward and a bad person in the end. Deltarune shows it better.

Here's my latest conspiracy ramblings.

Ralsei is a fraud hero made up by Kris.

>>713390257
doesn't she only make this face in the weird route when asking Kris?

>>713390470
damn that's some smooth animation

Susie's medium-small breasts

>>713390132
>Kris is going to go and hang out with that girl again. I hope he brings her back to the house so we can hang out!
>Boy this reminds me of when I was happy.
>When I also had someone to talk to.
>... Maybe just one drink.
If that isn't blatant depressing alcoholism, I don't know what is. Is she wrong for doing it? Who knows, she's sick.
sans however is a jackass, fuck that guy.

>>713390450
only tenna does

>>713386470
navel_licking

Why do people like Toriel more than Asgore when Asgore is by far the better written and more interesting character?

>>713390614
unngghh goat mommy
chatgpt please generate goth toriel
unngghhhh

literally what makes Ralseis fountain "pure dark?"
this little guy wrote Kris the manual why can't he write a book about all the rules and stuff

>>713390614
Asgore is 1000% funnier than Toriel, but Toriel isn't in the wrong for kicking his ass to the curb ans ignoring him in both games.

weird route players you DO realize your are going to break the heart of every other characters and won't get a happy ending, right?

>>713390132
>day directly after someone slashed her tires and the police didn't show up
>nothing to worry about

>>713390643
you make a very good argument

>>713387213
Because it's funny.

Susie will fulfill the dragon role.
She will take a huge part in the finality of the the Dark World even if she's not the hero.
Susie will become the analogue for Mother 3's Dark Dragon.

>>713390672
all worth it to fix the dyke

>>713390672
Anyone who thinks the weird route is the way to escape the prophecy hasn't been paying enough attention
It IS the prophecy

>>713390010
Uh oh, retarded redditor secondary is claiming others didn't play the game when in fact XE is the on that did not play the game! How embarrassing!

>>713390678
the "danger" of this can never work when we the player know for a fact why those are the case (kris, her child)

>>713390749
You're gunna fix her into an early grave if the prophecy's anything to go by.

>>713385064 (OP)
She judged others from a position of no risk in UT and does the same in DR.

>>713390796
sally and anne test

What if it wasn't Kris and the tires just did that

>>713390672
I like tragedy porn

Toriel is built for BBC (Big Bone Cock)

>>713390672
it'll be worth it for the Berdly rematch (assuming you gave him the hot water bottle in the hospital)

>>713390531
You seem to have two different theories that are at odds here.
If he’s tied to the fountains, how is he given form? There’s not a drawing (or copy thereof) that’s placed in every location.

>>713386747
Sounds like somebody's a little touchy about his freak family

What did she mean by this?

>WHAT IF UNDYNE WAS FROZEN AND BETRAYED IN THE HYPERBOLIC BUNKER CHAMBER FOR REAL LIFE YEAR?

>>713390614
>Why do people like Toriel more than Asgore
Here's why.

>>713390470
silly

>>713390569
According to toriel, she ducked into sans store (which sans then promptly closed the store), and then they took it to her place where she presumably got drunk
Shes a party animal in both deltarune (rudy calls her one) and undertale (alarm clock dialogue)
Sans isnt actually fucking Toriel if we can drop the memeing for a second here, hes partying (which he invites kris to do so as well) with the first friend he actually made here

>>713389714
He's a shitlib and a Jew (but I repeat myself).

>>713390929
It means she fucking cares about Kris goddamn we've ddone this song and dance for years now just like
try your best not to succumb to the horrors and loneliness

>>713390837
Kris opened a really really small Dark Fountain near the tires and they sprung to life as 4 tire darkners named Tire Jimmy, Tire Joe, Tire Jordan and Tire Tom who proceeded to cut themselves because they were all emo

>>713390929
she thinks about kris and creates imaginary scenarios as an excuse to hang out again

>>713390672
best people can hope for with the weird route is to listen to what gerson said
maybe you'll get some new insight/ ideas on it, but it's clearly going to end poorly

>>713388790
We can excuse Toriel in undertale. She literally lost two children and saw eight other children walk straight into their death. Not to mention she realizes her mistakes and corrects them.

>>713390257
Real Donnie Darko shit tbqh

>>713390796
And why would Toriel know that? Toriel has no idea who slashed her tires, so she should be worried that there is some assailant about. It's perfectly reasonable to judge Toriel for not seeming to care about something that poses a danger to her household.

>>713389462
Both the molesting and wrongful divorce were women moments. I like the theory Toriel ran Dess over while drunk driving and Asgore took the fall.

Feeding Elnina delicious diner food so she feels better!
https://youtu.be/jhhHy9WWo24?si=mqNH4wN0z3dn4WuU

>>713386285
>don't repost or use my art
then why the fuck post it?

>>713387798
it felt like it was supposed to be like a break chapter in between c2 and c4
its probably not as a bad for someone who didnt play c2 when it came out and had to wait, but i can see how some might see it as a disappointement

>>713391057
Not so fast, ditching Asgore just because he said mean things to keep his people from mass suicide isn't a very good look.

>>713390769

It literally isn't

>>713391138
Stuffed elnina grumbling tummy..... mmngf....

>>713391015
It's been known here for years, but it's funny how it took for snowgrave to literally spell it out by having Noelle talk out loud about how important Kris is to her for the rest of the game's audience to connect the dots.
I'm grateful for the fanart boom either way.

>>713389714
He was raised on a steady diet of Homestuck, which is the gayest thing since gay was invented in Gaytown, USA.

>>713391138
She's taken

>>713391213
How?

>>713390672
Toby said the ending's the same regardless of your choices.

>>713390531
I have a question, if Ralsei doesn't wear any panties under his dress does that means he has to constantly warm his balls with his own hands or does he has a balls heating spell placed under his dress all the time?

>>713391275
...by CHADwalker while Lanino watches

What rubs me the wrong way was how mean that sequence was.

>>713391138
You stay away from her Kanako.

>>713391317
Yeah I'm sure this doesn't mean anything.

>>713391317
He's gone back at that because he knows his fanbase would hate any ending that isn't super happy.

Toby clearly framed the whole Toriel drinking thing and partying with sans as a bad thing what with how Bot Susie and Kris reacted to it, especially Susie. kris reaction can be played off as comedic if you want but Susie went from "I fucking love Toriel, and I cant wait to stay another night there" plus her actively not wanting to go home to "...Fuck this, Im out. Your on your own Kris" in seconds, so in the context of the story its bad.
Everything else is just you guys beeing autistic at each other

>>713391196
>mean things
>LET'S DECLARE A WAR THAT WILL END WITH ALL OF MONSTERKIND DYING
>

>>713385064 (OP)
When are (we) going to be friends with Kris and show him that it's actually good sometimes to have a weird eldritch force control your words and actions

There's only one ending because Susie causes a time loop at the end of Chapter 7, making it so the game never "has" an ending
The ending is the premature Chapter 5 weird route ending where everyone gets USED UP

>>713391015
Noelle has trouble calling Kris a friend and if you say you're something else she says there's no good interpretation of that.

>>713391339
Hes a wizard, what do you think?

>>713388790
Asgore is not only irredeemable for personally killing 6 human children, but he is a retard for not simply absorbing 1 soul and btfo'ing all of humanity
He will either kill you, or kill himself 100% of the time if Flowey isn't in the mix (meaning the future of humans/monsters is on a child)
>if she got her way with Frisk the kid would be basically totally alone for his entire life and be a maladjusted freakoid
Better than getting brutally mauled by the guy that killed 6 other children that you let go before

Now for asgore to later say "AWWW SHUCKS TORI, HOW ABOUT WE GET BACK TOGETHER HAHA" and to get angry when he sees her fucking around with sans, makes him an inexcusable retarded cuck.

>>713390531
Ralsei is Asriel's old hero identity when he and Kris would play together.
Now that Asriel is gone to college, Kris in his loneliness manages to get Susie to open up by playing the same childhood games he used to play with Asriel. Kris uses his old roleplay identity, Susie invents her own, and Ralsei is shoehorned into the adventures because he and Kris were always a duo in old adventures. But he's too goody-two-shoes for Susie and isn't even real because Asriel is at college, so..

>>713391057
she also doesn't even really try to stop you, she intentionally misses

>>713391421
>kris reaction can be played off as comedic if you want
What??? How the fuck is that comedic?

>>713391057
no
as a Boss Monster and Queen, she shirked her responsibility in the first place when she was the SINGLE person who could've talked the monsters down
even with Asgore as furious as she was, the populace ultimately saw her as the "brains" and Asgore as the "heart" - had she, who lost her ACTUAL children, argued deeply against their crusade it would've nipped it in the bud
instead she whines and abandons her duty to her people for her own self-serving reasons, then takes an "I know best" approach and doesn't understand that the majority of human children are not going to flourish in the underground
tl;dr youer gay

>>713391546
It just made me think of that wojak meme template

>>713390909
Idea being that he was made up using some catalyst that's currently in the source of the Dark, like Kris' headband or something else.
When a Fountain opens up, he forms out of basically nothing, projecting his self into that Dark World through the Fountain.

>>713391339
He does have fire magic as we saw in Chapter 4 when he lights up the Balthizards. So probably the latter.

>>713391546
mfw you're literally in the cuck cage

reminder that susie is clearly insecure about her tail and hasn't even told kris about it yet
meanwhile noelle keeps bothering susie about it despite susie telling her to knock it off

>>713391421
Susie wouldve stayed and kris wouldve been fine if Susie didnt have a ridiculously bad day, Toriel simply picked the absolute wrong time to fuck up

childhood friend bros... I feel it.... the imminent HMOFD...

>>713391546
that's literally the butt of the joke in a lot of 90s-00s comedy movies, "Loud party music keeps someone awake and they're upset about it"
If you think about it normally it is kind of fucked up, but it is absolutely a joke in a lot of scenarios

>>713391280
Not him, but the most blatant clue that the weird route is not the prophecy is the "queen's chariot cannot be stopped" line in the prophecy since that doesn't happen on the weird route

>>713391546
The more interesting part is, how come the bloodstain is back even though we cleaned it up before church?

>>713391447
They didn't know that, all that matters is the hope. The rage faded eventually anyway, so it worked out.

>>713391675
The queen's chariot gets stopped in the normal route though.
It never starts to begin with in the weird route, and not starting =/= being stopped by an outside force.

>>713391691
tobster forget

>>713391421
i need the source too rub it in tumblrs face

>>713391630
Makes me wonder, does Kris see everything that we see in those "imagine what susie's doing" sequences? Does he know about the ferris wheel in chapter 2?

>>713391421
If anything its Susie's reaction that can be played off as comedic "Kris's family is being goddamn weird, I'm outta here".

>>713391630
Why DOES Susie hate being reminded of the tail so much?

>>713391675
Does the Chariot mean the car?
Or the hoverchair?
Thing.
Because I'm pretty sure the car stopped at the crossing before Spamton.

>>713391421
This is how deluded torielfags are.

>>713391735
the source?
are you retarded?

>>713391630
Can't wait for Susie telling Kris about her tail in an emotional moment.

>>713391760
Gex flashbacks

>>713391767
It was her giant robot. You lost to it in the normal route.

>>713390090
man i did not like the way they talked about Rouxls in Castle Town. All that "I think" or "ha ha" stuff made me wanna cringe and im not sure if that's intentional.

I didn't expect toby to outright mindbreak everyone who grew up with a single parent

>>713391727
Right so it doesn't get stopped on the weird route. Which is what I was saying.

>>713390672
that isn't the point, YOU only care to see what happens and I will be getting exactly what I intended.

>>713391691
Does the bloodstain still show up if you don't clean it up? For that matter, does the Susie Star also show up?

>>713391760
Probably got bullied about it.

>>713391630
>>713391760
I'm more and more convinced of the theory that Susie grew up in a human town, and that her tail insecurity is the parallel of Kris's horn insecurity

>>713391793
>It's on my front
>Suddenly, Noelle is straight.

>>713391057
Undertale Toriel > Deltarune Toriel. She's not perfect in Undertale, but in Deltarune she's just awful.

>>713389714
catti and jockington

>>713391873
That points to the weird route being the prophecy though? You said that proves it's NOT in >>713391675

>>713391873
**Doesn't happen at all on the weird route, I mean. Sorry

>>713391787
i need the tweet or whatever blogpost/intreview toby where toby states it

>>713391760
maybe the type of monster she is has really long or impressive tails on average and susie just has a little nub one
susie does like to imagine herself as a big scary monster, and her little runt tail takes away from that in a way she can't can't overlook, so she just pretends she doesn't have one at all

>>713388992
>man stretching out his game for as long as humanely possibly to milk retards lied about not wanting even more dosh from merchandising
his attempted misdirection early on always outed him as a juden, honorary or otherwise

>>713391948
that post wasn't talking about him saying anything it was just interpreting stuff from the game

>>713391945
I meant to say the whole chariot thing doesn't happen on the weird route.

>>713391912
Fuck you might be onto something. That would explain why she resents Kris to begin with.

>>713391196
She ditched asgore for a lot more than just mean things. The dude is a literal child murderer.
>>713391559
But WOULD the monsters rather follow her? Even if they know shes smart, that doesn't mean they aren't going to be vengeful and emotional

>>713391870
it looks more like he did

>>713391546
It isnt but as others pointed out you could make an argument for it beeing a joke (Kinda how prison-rape jokes can be found in fucking Spongebob)
>>713391759
She cleary seemed like she didnt want to stick around which is a totall 180 on her previous behavior
>>713391774
I fucking dislike Toriel retard. I just think its another show of her not beeing the perfect mom Torielfags like to think her off.
She also lets knowingly lets her kid run around with a knife all day, which even Susie, the edgy kid, thinks is damn weird.

>>713392001
i misread the post please forgive me

>>713390531
This. Asriel is the third hero.

>>713391595

*whirring sound*

>>713391630
I really like Noelle whenever she isnt in a room with Susie. Then she just becomes a creepy retard

>>713392140
I don’t think Asriel is in the "deepest dark."
Yet, anyway.

>>713392183
What even is this ting supposed to be?

>>713391912
>Two sides of the same coin.
Toby they're STAR CROSSED LOVERS DROP THE YURI SLOP MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!

>>713391520
Why is it better to kill one human, pass through the barrier and confront humanity to try to get six more souls than just kill whatever seven happen to fall into the underground? Asriel did that and the humans riddled him with bullets. How can you seriously ask Asgore to do the same? Ideally, Asgore could've waited for a human to fall into the underground, then explained everything to them and tried to get them to lend him their soul, then walked through the barrier, contacted humans and hoped for the best that they wouldn't attack him, and finally convinced six more to do the same...but that's a lot of wishful fucking thinking that's probably just going to get Asgore killed. And people were angry about Asriel dying, negotiating with humans probably wouldn't have sounded reasonable to them.

We also technically don't know how they all died. The monsters aren't exactly that aggressive, it feels like they died simply due to the underground being dangerous. Most of them have never even seen a human.

Regardless, humans constructed the barrier for a reason. What the fuck could Asgore possibly say that'll convince them to help him take it down? I would presume almost nothing. So the only way he could get six more souls would be to just kill people. We have no idea how Asriel actually fared against a group of humans, but we know he died in the end. Would Asgore necessarily fare better? How is this morally superior to just killing whoever falls in?

Toriel's just being a woman, sympathizing with her people's enemies.

it appears my superiority has led to some controversy

>>713391912
>>713392013
...fuck that could work. It would explain why shes ashamed of having a tail in the first place. Like, some 3/4ths of the town have a tail. Alphys is a Lizard-thing too and has a tail

>>713385064 (OP)
>traps human children in her dungeon lair and pretends to be their mother
>forces them to fight her to leave
>refuses to leave with them to protect them
>has allowed six other children to go die
>complains to her husband that he should just merge with a heart and go to the surface instead of collecting them from the kids she let die
>refuses to do such a thing herself for, and I have to emphasize this yet again, SIX DEAD KIDS worth of time
She was always ruined, a hypocritical shallow asshole that complains about problems, lets the problems fester, then complains when others try to solve it.
The only people worse than Toriel are Alphys and Chara.

>>713391912
I was thinking something like this too. Was thinking maybe she was raised by humans or lost her parents in a human town, which makes her harder to fit in with a monster town.

>>713392251
metronome (forma de sexo)

>>713391760
>he doesn't know

>>713391729
>>713391884
Wait, I think I made a mistake, it looks like the bloodstain is gone at the end. Why do I remember it staying there even though I cleaned it up? Was it a bug or do I just remember wrong?
The Susie Award always showed up correctly, I'm sure of that.
Pic related is from a YT video.

>>713391057
>eight other children
Why do people say this? I always thought I was crazy for not remembering that being stated, so I replayed Undertale. And sure enough, every time it mentions the other people, it EXCLUSIVELY uses the word "humans", and they are never once referred to as children. Chara was, and Frisk was, and that's all that's confirmed. Feels like people just want to make Asgore look worse than he was.

>>713392291
is "Degdraws" trying to tell me this pic isnt fucking AIslop?

>>713385581
100% the Asgore cuck crashout. I want to see him get pissed off. I want to hear a balls-to-the-wall Bergentrückung remix during his optional superboss. I want a sequence where it's Asgore and Sans fighting each other and you have to dodge their attacks.

What if Ralsei is just Undertale Asriel? Gaster bullshit transported him to Deltarune, but he was told that he couldn't be Asriel, as there is already an Asriel in this world, so he became Ralsei. His second chance at life, basically.

>>713392274
That was sorta his OG plan before Chara decided to enact THD and tried to pilot Asriel Mech Dremurr to do so, and then got themselves and Asriel fucking killed.
Then an enraged ASGORE [LITERALLY HAD BOTH OF HIS KIDS KILLED BY HUMANS] said fuck it we're killing these bastards, and everyone was totally on board apart from Toriel.

>>713392274
Didn't Asriel refuse to fight?

>>713392395
Anon if a human fell down there they would had destroyed everything trying to get out. A child is the only thing monsters could hope to match.

>>713385064 (OP)
This is the same woman who saw her well meaning if 60 IQ husband crying out in grief for his boys and told him to pound sand for doing so. Toriel has ALWAYS BEEN A TERRIBLE PERSON.

>>713392365
where's da sex

>>713392274
>Why is it better to kill one human, pass through the barrier and confront humanity to try to get six more souls than just kill whatever seven happen to fall into the underground
Because they had to wait underground for what appears to be decades for it to happen
Asriel only died because he refused to attack anyone, Asgore on a mission would be the cleanest, fastest way to save his people

>>713392448
that's fucking stupid. you're stupid.

I'll keep fapping to Toriel no matter what. My cock is addicted to her.

>>713392431
>ASGORE AND SANS FIGHTING IN THE DARK WORLD
>You're just a third party dodging their attacks and trying to calm them down
>Sans is shit-talking the entire time and actually doing a fairly good job, even doing slight KR damage to ASGORE.
>However as the fight goes on he slowly gets more and more tired, and ASGORE isn't backing down.
>Ends in the same way the regular sans fight does, with ASGORE catching sans off guard after his final dodge.
>Ralsei dives in front of Sans to save him and ASGORE snaps out of his rage.
Kino or cringe?

>>713391727
This is the much better evidence that the weird route is not the prophecy route.

>>713391945
>The tale that must be followed
>The tail that must not be followed
>FRIEND is trying to send the prophecy off the rails to do something awful with the newfound freedom
I bet that neither normal or weird are the original prophecy, and the whole thing was set off course the night that the kids went into the shelter and Dess went missing.

>>713392365
Post horse pussy version

>>713392575
Sans pls stop posting

>>713391912
>>713392330
So, what do you guys think Susie's hometown is like?

>>713392431
>I want a sequence where it's Asgore and Sans fighting each other and you have to dodge their attacks.
>You have to make your way to Asgore and Sans in the overworld while stray fire and gaster blasters and bones come at you
kino

>>713392448
Chapter 4 went out of its way to debunk that. According to Kris they have different faces.

>>713392452
I dont know why this is talked about so little. It wasnt just Asgores mad plan only he thought was cool. Fucking everyone but Toriel was cool with it (and, arguably, maybe Papyrus since he cant kill you no matter what, unlike Toriel). But you never see people go "NOOOOO UNDYNES A CHILD-KILLER" while she was mega-hyped to cut out your living heart to present to Asgore. There its just "UGU FISH LADY STRONG"
I think fuckers are just simps who would defend Asgore if he had tits and a cunt

>>713386747
he drives

>>713392648
Is the tail with the point actually in the game files? Or did someone just draw a point on it to make it fit with the "pointed tail" thing?

>>713392448
Ralsei is a product of the SOUL, everything about his existence is just Undertale references and (You) are the only one in Deltarune with that context [unless Doctor Who Sans is actually real]

>>713385581
Susie finding out about (Me)

>>713392274
>Why is it better to kill one human, pass through the barrier and confront humanity to try to get six more souls than just kill whatever seven happen to fall into the underground?
Undertale states that a monster that absorbs a human soul is unstoppable.
Chara states that them + Asriel could've wiped out all the bloodlusted humans attacking them easily. A child was that strong, so imagine the strongest monster ever absorbing one. The underground and Asgore himself knows that Asriel was holding back as well.

>We also technically don't know how they all died
Asgore killed all 6 of them.

>>713392493
I just don't believe that. It's one human vs the entire Underground. The red soul is the only one that represents determination, meaning the other humans didn't have any save/load hax. Are you telling me you played Undertale with no deaths first try?

>>713392709
kek

>>713392712
In the game files.

https://deltarune.wiki/w/Hidden_Music_Tracks#man_nes.ogg
>man_nes.ogg
>this track plays in Mancountry in Chapter 3. Unlike man.ogg which has different instruments, this track is identical to the version on Fox's Tumblr blog, where is is given the title "waltz of seccom masada (8 bit)"[3]
Hold the fucking phone.

>>713386506
does anyone have a source on this?

>>713392097
it's ok

>>713392448
Ralsei is going to probably be an Asriel doll or drawing, it's something Asriel-related but not actually him

>>713392648
So what you're saying is the regular bosses are knightpilled while the schizobosses are friendpilled

>>713392412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzm1lRVcJ6M
https://x.com/DegoDraws/
Can it, schizo

>>713392709
funny

>>713392773
HOLD ON

>>713392431
>you have to dodge their attacks.
But I don't want to dodge shit. I want to help Asgore kill Sans.

>>713392395
Toby offhandedly mentioned that all the other humans were children in the cringekino Fangamer interview iirc but he'd probably say not to consider that canon

>>713392383
Someone on leddit also commented that the bloodstain comes back at the end, so I might not fully be a schizo (for thinking this anyway).
So what the fuck is going on?

>>713392742
Didn't Gerson explicitly kill one himself though

>>713386616
use of the word "degenerate" is associated with the alt right

>>713392773
>Tumblr post is from April 2012
JESUS CHRIST TOBY. DO THE PLANS NEVER END?

How will (You) fill Ralsei's room in the Chapter 5 room designer minigame?

>>713392274
>Asriel did that and the humans riddled him with bullets.
Because he explicitly was holding back and letting that happen.

>>713392650
i didn't save it

>>713389127
GIWTWM

Ralsei is a literal doormat hence why he wants to be step on all the time.

>>713392903
uhhh where's the dragon dildo corner?

>>713392881
That's Kris's menstruation spot

>>713392903
I will fill his room with wooden chairs, 20 fireplaces, and remove the door once he enters

>>713392784
Here
https://x.com/JojoMingles/status/1935070975512490152

>>713392650
>>713392920
https://files.catbox.moe/j3lory.gif

>>713392830
It might be more accurate to say that the normal story is dogpilled and the schizo stuff is catpilled - the opposite of the black cat of chaos is the white dog of order.

>>713392904
Couldn't you just call the absorbed soul for help and get it to turn against the monster like you do against Photoshop Flowey

>>713392967
In my room?
He can share if he wants but he has to ask first.

>>713392685
It's probably in part that you actively make friends with everyone else, you only get asgore's sad backstory through looking at new home and some of the walk up texts.
Undyne chills out after you spare her and then optionally make closer friends with her, Asgore's 'redemption' doesn't really have much time to breath.

>>713392685
Toriel was mad at the killing kids plan, but what caused the divorce was that he was pussyfooting it
If he wanted to kill people and let the monsters out, fine you have the ability to do that after the first soul we get
If he wanted to not kill anyone then that's fine too, people won't live in false hope and be stuck there
He took the longest, most painful option possible for everyone involved

>>713392858
Isn’t smiling man supposed to be a bit of a reference to him to begin with or am I crossing wires.

>>713392656
I think all humans in the universe are long haired, ambiguously gendered (because they all have SOULs for Players) and are very quiet like Frisk and Kris, but not necessarily as autistic as Kris.

It would explain why Susie hates quiet people and picks on Kris specifically.

>>713386367
There's no indication that they can even happen. The closest we get is Susie bleeding but it could just be as simple as "some monsters bleed in this world"

>>713392961
I wanted to argue "where is Kris carrying around a doormat" but then he pulls his knife out of his ass all the time too

>>713393017
Based

>>713389127
She's like 7'1 ot something

>>713392431
>hit sans
>sans has an absurdly ludicrous amount of health
this would be hilarious

>asgore eventually hits sans so hard that his max HP permanently is reduced to 1
this too would be hilarious

I am nota cuckold and I defend Toriel. I also think you're a bunch of slack jawed faggots.

>>713390470
Nice

>>713392903
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LADDER

>>713392656
she lived in a time where humans wouldn't be attracted to her(bunch of faggots) so now that she is in a monster town with a human who went thru the same shit she will finally find some sort of peace and let loose

>>713392881
Kris ripping the SOUL creates it.

>>713392685
>But you never see people go "NOOOOO UNDYNES A CHILD-KILLER" while she was mega-hyped to cut out your living heart to present to Asgore.
Funny enough you can see this but only among people who justify Genocide by thinking the entire game promotes subversive self-defense (even though Asriel at the end of the game flat out admits none of this stuff is supposed to apply in the real world)

>>713392887
no, where did you hear that from?

If the Angel is supposed to be (you) then what are the implications of Castle Town being named after you?

>>713393061
>If he wanted to kill people and let the monsters out, fine you have the ability to do that after the first soul we get
Yeah that worked out great for Asriel. One soul makes you powerfull but not invincible.
Not his fault all the fuckers falling down were kids and not drug addicted neighborhood rapists

>>713385581
Thawed Berdly coming back WITH A LUST FOR REVENGE

>>713393132
so you're a cuck

>>713392648
Neither normal or weird are the original prophecy because Snowgrave was supposed to happen in Chapter 1.
We can't get back onto that path no matter what because Susie always takes us out of the Noelle and Berdly throuple group of 3, and Ch2 Snowgrave is an attempt to steer it back to the original prophecy that'll just fuck everything up even more.

>>713393193
That would be pretty fucking hardcore, but it's probably not true since Kris wasn't trailing blood across the Holiday Mansion's corridors

>>713393235
None because you are not the Angel.

>>713393076
Sauce?

>>713388509
Tenna
He's the 1 CUMMING

cant believe I am sharing this website with you degenates

/ss/ with Dess

Does anybody have a gif of Susie bleeding? I've seen little mention of it.

>>713386367
>Only humanoid monsters can breed with humans, aka you have to be an animal-thing or something capable of being FUCKED.
>The child is always a monster with fucked up human anatomy.
>They have flesh and bones instead of being made up of magic and dust.
>This makes them far stronger than monsters and usually humans, however their altered biology makes them far more prone to sickness, disease, illness, and injury due to their strange bodytypes.

>>713388704
o7

>>713391630
Tbf, in Noelle's head, she just woke up from a very real dream.
Does she bother her again abt after this?>>713392213
true tho

>>713393328
Excuse me I am not a degenerate, I am a freak.

>>713393317

>>713393328
>degenerate website
>look inside
>degeneracy

>>713392903

Test

>>713388812
Why has "Dess was molesting Kris" become the new /v/ headcanon? Besides it being hot, obviously

>>713393294
it's pretty obvious that you are
>Angel doll falling onto the soul
>Angel is depicted as a black screen, showing (your) reflection

>>713393252
>cuck
>for a fictional character
Based retard

>>713393076
>susie realizing that kris could've just shanked her at any time when she was bullying him but didn't
that's probably going to fuck with her for a while

>>713393483
>inb4 "but the Noelle symbolism" even though all that's foreshadowing is that (You) are going to control her

>>713393459
because it seems like they hung out a lot and it's hot

>>713393407
>toriel: Oh honey you and your emotional support knife, haha

>>713393193
Well how come the pic in >>713392383 doesn't have the bloodstain then? There was no blood when Kris ripped out the soul in Noelle's house either.

>>713393407
Thank you.

>>713393386
yeah, at the end of the closet dialogue

>>713393459
It extends OMORI Theory

>>713393235
Undertale strongly implied that Asriel was the angel, right down to giving him wings for his boss fight. Could "the Angel's heaven" in Deltarune be the fact that Asriel left and went to college? He is living his best life but the rest of his family, Kris in particular, is unhappy. So destroying the Angel's heaven would mean somehow getting Asriel to come back home and stay with Kris.
It sounds small and petty but considering that the Dark World is a fictional reflection of the Light World, and the dark fountains are molded after their creators, that small thing could have been stretched into a huge deal. Especially if that dark fountain in the closet was made by Kris, or perhaps Dess. Ralsei's prophecy in chapter 1 would simply be a reflection of their wishes.

>>713392773
Man, I love Seccom Masada

>>713390573
No there's a bit where they can say that

>>713392747
>The red soul is the only one that represents determination
pure headcanon

>>713393575
If you bring Susie up to your room she tells you to use vinegar and soap to clean it up and forces you to scrub the floor.

>>713386367
I like the headcanon that Boss Monsters are what you get from a human father and a monster mother
It explains why their SOUL persists after death and why they have color in their eyes in the black-and-white artstyle

>>713393328
These threads are some of the most degenerate currently on /v/, AND they're also some of the nicest, most productive, and most on-topic on /v/.
These things are not coincidental.

>>713385570
ive blasted too many ropes to be neutral on the issue, the funny chungus skeleton must die

zzzzzzzz...................

Cute boys

>>713393725
What if that's why Carol wants Noelle to go with Kris? Wants to secure a boss monster in her bloodline.

>>713393823
Chara is a girl

>>713392747
> red soul is the only one that represents determination
>2025
>not knowing Red SOUL stands for BALL GAME

>>713393725
Oh and before someone mentions it I mean SPECIFICALLY when their eyes are just colored all the time and not when they're specifically using a magic attack that they only use twice

>>713393789
Gonna get her while she's sleeping as payback for killing my TV.

>>713393854
girl (male)

>>713392747
red has no official trait, could be autism for all we know

>>713393789
>dess sleeping in kris' (dark world) bed
s-scandalous!

>>713393789

>>713393680
I know, but I could have sword the bloodstain came back for me. I might have just been mistaken though.

>>713393948
ah gee I wonder what the heart that fills with DETERMINATION could possibly have as a trait.

>>713393948
You are red...

>>713393789
>Reply "Sleep well roaring knight" for a restful sleep tonight

>>713388409
Don't question the King of ONLY.

>>713392903
piles and piles of encrusted cum leaked from him after filling him up

>>713394015
That's just something all human souls do.
I mean Alphys didn't extract patience and kindness from the non-red souls she already had.

>>713394020
anon you can't say that

>>713393948
Red is BALL GAME nigga

>>713394020
>>713394015
>>713393948

>>713394020
That's my attack.

>>713388182
Shit that's actually really good

>>713393624
Perhaps Asriel was the cause of everything that we see in the game, in some sort of "heaven" metaphor.

That would make sense and would explain the red herrings pointing towards the Player being the Angel.

God, I hate women

>>713394157
You're red now!
W-Wait, what do you MEAN you were already red?
You already had access to ALL four fucking dimensions of movement?!
YOU COULD FUCKING FLOAT?!
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT- I HAD A WHOLE ANTI GRAVITY FUCKING BOSS SETUP-
I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE FUCKING INTEGRITY SOUL GOD DAMN IT!
BALL GAME?! SERIOUSLY?!
Fuck you.

>>713390909
>>713391618
I think the only theory that explains this is Ralsei being literally a dream version of Kris where he is more like his brother.
Since there is a dream theme going on with dark worlds, it makes sense a literal OC would be the pure darkness.
Headband or drawing, it doesn't matter. It's just how immaterial Ralsei is as an idea.
Every other darkner is an object given personality based on what they are. Ralsei is an idea with a (possible) correlation to a material object.

Or Im just wrong im not schizo enough to be attached to this view. There can be a million reasons, and Susie will never ever give follow-up questions

>>713387409
Such a retarded thing to say, it's literally how you're meant to play the game. Doing full pacifist or genocide for your first run is dumb and people like you ruin the game for any new players

>>713393948
the true trait of thee red soul is DELTARUNE

Wait so why is the Knight interested in creating dark worlds again? Just to kidnap sacrifices?

>>713394293
* It was actually two dimensions of movement, but out of kindness you didn't point it out.

That Is When I Realized
This Power... This Power Of The Will
The Power Of BALL GAME
Is This Not Something That All Lightners Possess...?

>>713394020

remember, we have another thread already, lest the janny has a melty

>>713393483
>One vaguely valid point
>One bullshit headcanon point.

>>713394352
It works for Kris.

>>713394335
>Doing full pacifist or genocide for your first run is dumb
I never got people who say this
>Game tells you not to kill people
>kill people
>underwhelming ending
>'Actually this is the proper 1st playthrough'
???

>>713393823
Frisk and Chara are very cute girls.

>>713394234
Been listening to it for the past four hours.
It loops nicely too.

Toriel's large fluffy feet resting gently on my face

>>713385791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=varIRWxEqRk

>>713394880
This but with her breasts

>>713394701
>It's kill or be killed

Just completely ruins the pacifist run if you have someone spoil it for you by saying "durrr don't kill anything!!"

>>713394335
That was fine when it was a 20 minute demo
Doing it for 10 hours is a big ask

https://youtu.be/tz82xbLvK_k
Will it be surpassed? Can it be surpassed?