I've never played Stalker. Should I play Stalker Gamma? Since it combines all three, as far as I know.

>>713400191 (OP)
Yez
Also check out metro exodus
First vlogs map alone is worth the price of addmission

>>713400191 (OP)
Definitely do NOT start with GAMMA
Play the original trilogy if you're interested, they were a neat experience and pretty soulful
GAMMA/Anomaly is if you want more grind and to spend more time in the world, it's honestly pretty boring

it does not combine the stories of all 3 in a way that would be enjoyable for a first time player

>>713400191 (OP)
No retard, start with STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl. And the original version not the shitty demaster.

you can, but when you first install GAMMA you'll find that it is tweaked for autists
tweak it to your own enjoyment. I tuned up all the loot sliders. removed the weight limit. lots of fun.

>>713400191 (OP)
It doesn't "combine all three" lmao. It's a completely different game that just has the maps of all three.

>>713400191 (OP)
>Grok's automated modular modpack for anomaly
Is that true?

There aren't any of the cutscenes from the original games in gamma or anomaly, retards like >>713400943 who play 5 minutes for the clout pretend it does though

gamma is fucking retarded do not start there. imagine going to nexus and downloading pretty much every mod thats a available for skyrim and putting it all in a single pack. Thats what gamma is. its fucking retarded and as others have mentioned is tuned for absolute autism. It tries really hard to be realistic, but goes way to far to the point its not realistic in the slightest and just adds a fuckload of tedium for the sake of adding tedium.

Start with the original games. If you really want more you can keep more of a vanilla+ experience sandbox with Call of Chernobyl or Call of the Zone and some stuff for those. If youre a muh graphics fag and want a lot of extra bullshit mechanics that no one really asked for but not as full on retarded as gamma you can download anomaly and any mods you want for that.

Anomaly was a mistake

>>713401169
i played the trilogy before gamma, all i'm saying is he can but it won't be too fun out of the box

>>713400191 (OP)
I like Gamma but it's not for the first time players, play the original trilogy first.

>>713400191 (OP)
GAMMA is for people that know what they're getting into and are actively interested in the loop he's designing for.
you shouldn't play it unless you already know what it is/does and specifically want that.

for most people that is not the case, it's like a first time driver picking between Formula 1 or Rally driving when you've never even drive stick on a regular road in a Toyota Corolla.

>>713401169
Your fucking mother is retarded. Who do you think you are, insulting me?

>>713401797
see even retards like this just make it sound cool and badass and they don't mention IT DOES NOT LET YOU ACTUALLY PLAY THE ORIGINAL STORIES FROM THE ORIGINAL GAMES ITS A SANDBOX WITH THE OPTION TO REVISIT STORY LOCATIONS IN QUESTS

>>713402051
Wow, look at the ego you get when you're called out on your circlejerk

>>713400191 (OP)
>you start here rookie,else you will have gain no friends or street cred arround these parts

>>713400191 (OP)
Original first then you can go Anomaly/Gamma or EFP, then you can go deeper

>>713400191 (OP)
Gamma almost killed moddb so fuck no.

>>713402258
develop what you said, im curious

>>713400191 (OP)
Stalker gamma is for super try hard fags who want enemies to drop barely any loot and if they do its broken so you have to disassemble it for parts and try to find enough parts to build a weapon thats actually slightly useable while also being a looter shooter where you can barely carry any loot.

>>713400191 (OP)
Kill all anomaly secondaries.

>>713400191 (OP)
play IX-Ray instead

>>713400191 (OP)
>Play freeplay mod with nice graphics
>Terrible weapons and 0 content
>play freeplay mod with a little content
>terrible graphics and weapons
>play freeplay mod with nice weapons
>genuinely 0 actual content

>>713400191 (OP)
No
Play original games

STALKERbros, is 2 worth getting yet or is it still a poorly performing mess with no A-life and otherwise trash AI to boot?

>>713405980
It's a literal scam. Avoid.

>>713400191 (OP)
No.

>>713405980
No
Its bad farcry game

>>713405980
>is 2 worth getting yet
for free? sure
>is it still a poorly performing mess
yeah
> no A-life
yep
>trash AI
absolutely

>>713406023
>>713406129
>>713406141
Fuck

>>713406217
It was an obvious scam from the start, it was full of signs like NFTs and very sketchy developers but it was all forgotten because of the hype and muh Ukraine

>>713401162
no, it's actually "grok's autistic meme modpack for anomaly"

>>713406297
let's not forget that it took them like 6 years after the announcement to show some ACTUAL gameplay that wasn't heavily edited pre-rendered footage. The difference between the first "gameplay" trailer from 2021 and the one from 2024 is insane, different games almost.

>>713402334
the story that was going around is that: Gamma's installer automatically started downloads of all the different mods directly from moddb in sequence, it was like 650 files at the time. When Gamma got crazy popular, so many people were running the launcher at once that certain downloads were failing due to ddos protections kicking in, which would make the install fail for Gamma players, so they'd just re-start the whole process again immediately which lead to even more ddos protections kicking. Supposedly whoever was hosting the whole DB network's host or isp got really fucking bitchy about the sudden skyrocket in downloads and was threatening to jack their rates which would have killed or crippled the sites.

>>713406813
the discussion around Stalker 2 suddenly vanished after the initial shilling campaign after release

>>713406297
>>713406813
Something else to keep in mind is UE5, very easy to slapdash some garbage together on that

>>713408067
Yeah. I have a suspicion that what we got was slapped together in about a year or so and the original Stalker 2 was abandoned completely when it became apparent they weren't going to be able to ship anything. They quickly ported assets to UE5 and shit out what's basically a barely functional empty world

>>713408468
Don't forget they rename it to ChOrnobyl

they think stalker players after spending a decade playing games with soviet throwbacks and downloading russian mods would suddenly cheer for the removal of soviet assets in a badly made remaster

>>713401162
The 'automated' part is a real stretch

>>713406813
I'm confident that the STALKER 2 we got was thrown together in 18 months.

>>713409876
It really isn't when it installs every mod automically with no input from the user

>>713400191 (OP)
To make an analogy imagine Skyrim / Skyrim with 100500 mods including "hardcore" and "Immersive" ones. Go play the originals is you are not allergic to old graphics and just strait up play the 2d game whatever. It's essentially the first 3 mashed together.

>>713409395
pretty funny decision since GSC is financed mostly by russian mobsters.

>>713405980
Stalker is just Metro's retarded cousin.
Just go play those instead of these shit unfinished turds only swallowed by retarded russians

>>713409395
That was funny because it made all the shitskin commies of /v/ asshurt while actual russians didn't care.

>>713411220
This, we're all Chornobylian enthusiasts here

>>713405980
>getting
Torrent it.
>poorly performing mess
Yep
> no A-life
Zero noticed.
>trash AI
Fine on max difficulty.

The main plot was nice. References to soviet and russian classics were cool.

>>713409719
Nobody cares because there's no Stalker players, Stalker is a meme franchise shilled by a bunch of of slavs and the 10 poor ruskies who play them. No actual human can stand games defined by poor coding, bugs and clunk, hence why it's modding community has only made mods to make the game tedious as shit.

Metro Exodus takes a fat shit on all of Stalker, including its mods.

>>713411330
No, but it's hilarious how asshurt /v/ got, likely because it'd full of latino untermensch, probably the same spamming Deltarune threads.

I just passed by to say Dutyers should chill tf out and smoke a joint, that is all

>>713400191 (OP)
No, this franchise is utter garbage, go play something that isn't just a bunch of alpha builds.

>>713400191 (OP)
>Since it combines all three, as far as I know.
No play the original 3
Gamma is just a freeroam sandbox set in the Stalker universe

>>713411220
it's kinda sad looking at the steam reviews with most of the positive ones coming from Russians, even though GSC shat on them while trying to ride the slava Ukraini wave

>>713409719
It's fine if it makes commies asshurt.

>>713411662
No shit, Russiana have a nigger tier IQ, they ate up Stalker 2 just like they ate up the other three turds or trash like GAMMA.

>>713400191 (OP)
>I've never played Stalker
then start there, that is SoC, vanilla

>>713411523
Maybe Stalker 2 is just a really shitty game, the ridiculous Chornobyl virtue signalling just being the cherry on top

>>713411762
I played it and it was pretty comfy

>>713411762
This is /v/, you fags would have lost your minds id it was good and was popular, it happened with Doom Eternal.
Not that it was possible because slavs can't code for shit.

>>713411612

A lot of people call GAMMA tuned for autism and thats true. But it's bloated in a way that's like Path of Exile where all of the stuff some players see as tedium actually serve a purpose in motivating you to play at all. Anomaly is very sparse in terms of actual gameplay scenarios. The best parts of anomaly are straight rips from Shadow of Chernobyl (brain scorcher). Playing GAMMA is more similar to playing an diablo style ARPG than a shooter far as player motivation is concerned. Play the originals first. You can bounce off Clear Sky like most players. The movement feels so much worse than the first game. Shadow of Chernobyl is an amazing game. Great levels and pacing. Call of Pripyat's maps are too big IMO. Anomaly/GAMMA are for when you just want to spend more time in the world. I really don't think GAMMA is tuned for tedious realism I think it's tuned for farming dopamine. Best played in ironman.

>>713411939
Why would a Dutyer punch an egghead scientist?

>>713412069
>>713411939
>>713411612
Stop replying to yourself with your unfunny ruskie crap, nobody cares about Stalker anymore.

>>713412069
it's a reference to the dutyer at the entrance to Rostok. he'll tell you to put your weapons away and will punch you, if you spam the talk button on him. other "mute" NPCs will also punch you, but I guess this is where most of the players got punched

>>713411739
Stalker was/is popular in all of eastern Europe

>>713412293
I never noticed that, the next time I play SoC I'll try that out, thank you stalker

>Stop replying to yourself with your unfunny ruskie crap, nobody cares about Stalker anymore.

>>713400191 (OP)
I don't remember shadow, but clear sky is trash in pretty much all aspects
I'd recommend whatever "fixing vanilla issues but not altering the game much" for a play-through of SoC and CoC

>>713407901
This is only because mod authors insist on nobdy creating mirrors on alternative sites.
If they were cool with that it could be hosted on google drive or somwhere else in its entiery.
So don't blame the modpack, blame mod author niggers.

AMK 1.6se is the only STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl mod that is worth playing. STALKRSOUP gets an honorable mention.

>>713413067
Kill yourself, your shitty posts only makes me look worse you wankstain

>>713400191 (OP)
better than 2

>>713413237
what is that? amk casual mode, being amk1.4.1 reduced spawns, no electro chimeras and Autumn Aurora graphics? if so I already played that and it was boring lmao
t. played amk1.4 with the vanilla graphics and it was fun as fuck, almost as good as Misery for CoP 2bh f a m

>>713400191 (OP)
>I've never played Stalker. Should I play Stalker Gamma?
No. Play vanilla first. Anyone who says otherwise is a faggot.

>>713400191 (OP)
no
why the fuck would you play some overhaul mod that makes changes to almost everything for your first time instead of the actual game? perhaps install some minor bugfix mods

stalker op 2 is the real S.T.A.L.K.E.R. experience
i dont get why GAMMA got so popular

for me, it's aa2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiUyWsJbyeU

oh yeah actually STALKER 2 is 150 gig, is it actually worth pirating?

>>713418223

>>713418281
>STOLKOR HORT OF CHORNOBOL

>>713400191 (OP)
You shouldn't play mods until you've played all three games vanilla. Don't even install bugfixes unless it's unplayable on your machine. Once you've finished all three, try Call of Chernobyl if you want a stripped down free-play experience, or Road to the North if you want a more hardcore freeplay with plot breadcrumbs. If you decide you love the grind and want a new and flashy experience, try Anomaly. Only play Gamma if you're a massive milsimhead who loves CBT and doesn't have the patience to just mod Anomaly according to your specific preferences.

>>713400191 (OP)
Anons here are right. Start with SoC, continue with CS and CoP if you liked it, and then play Gamma if you really need more.

>>713418281
Maybe in a few years, after it has been completely overhauled by Russian bros.

>>713418281
Maybe in a few years. A-life is nowhere to be seen so you have a nice empty world where the AI don't do shit and literally spawn the moment you look away. Basically it's dogshit and not worth playing right now. Let me give you one example of the terrible game design along with the empty world. You have the lowest amount of stamina in this game out of every stalker. The stamina artifacts have been heavily nerfed and even with them, you still have less stamina than previous stalker games. Now combine this without how much stuff weighs and the game world has been increased to a gigantic amount and you can see where this is going. No joke, some missions require you to fucking run across 1500+ meters to the objective and sometimes you have to carry heavy mission items with you. So you're running back with no loot or doing multiple return trips. Also they thought the great idea of removing fast travel points as you progress the story was essential so you actually start running out of places to fast travel and now you have to fucking run even more. There are countless other fundamental flaws that just makes the game shit

>>713413169
CS is good. As atmospheric as the other Stalker games, maybe a bit more linear, but more varied environments. It’s actually my favorite.

>>713418724
>>713418654
okay, but aren't there like cheats or mods to circumvent that

>>713400191 (OP)
Gamma isn't a stalker, it's not what stalker is, it's not what stalker ever was. Gamma is mod that makes things "realistic" in a game way. Aka not realistic at all.

I hope someone makes a VR mod for one of these multiple sourceports one day
I can only play Into The Radius and all the other VR stalkan clones that never quite fully scratch the itch that real STALKER does for so long

>>713418868
>the other VR stalkan clones

What other VR clones are there?

>>713413169
>>713418764
CS gets a bad rep because of the harsh start. That, and memeing faggots spam their "correct" opinion on the matter everywhere they can.
Just because it's the weakest in the trilogy doesn't mean it's a bad game overall. It's fine. No pants-jizzingly amazing, but fine.

>>713400191 (OP)
Anamoly is when they turn all 3 stalker games into one big openworld sandbox
Gamma is a modpack that turn that empty sandbox into a mobile game
you basically have to grind and grind to get any decent weapon
cause the moment you kill someone their weapons turn into useless junk that cant shoot more than 1 round without jamming,
so you have to grind to get regular normal working guns
basically it give the sandbox some progression
is it realistic hell no?
but I guess it give you excuse to keep playing the game

>>713400191 (OP)
Most will tell you GAMMA is cancer or the best shit ever.
Be aware most of the people playing and throwing out opinions never actually played the base game.
It's fun, but any beginner modpack like AMK is generally where most people start, the faggots that post the starter guide did not play vanilla and continue to spout the master difficulty lie and can't be trusted. DO NOT PLAY "COMPLETE" Or the "remaster"
GAMMA is extremely different than playing through the story and is very much a wiki game at first.

>>713400191 (OP)
>hey guys i've never played this game before
>should I just skip the actual game and just play the freeroam mod pack
Why is this so prevalent with Stalker specifically?

>>713419083
That's why people shit on FAGGMA, gaylord. Because it's a completely different game from the originals. Fine on it's own, but as an entry point to STALKER in general? Fuck no.

Is GAMMA only hated because of retards like OP?
I love the fuck out of it it but I've played stalker since 2007.

Anything anomaly related fucking blows.

>>713418965
ITR 1+2, ConVRgence, ZONA, to name a few
There's also that Metro game but it's not really stalkan despite similar aesthetics
There's also heavily modded FO4 I guess, I really should finish my project to VRify that Lost World modlist one of these days

>>713418145
Underage fags who never played the game, youtube, reels and tiktok. The usual.

You can turn off or tweak 90% of the crap that people whine about GAMMA doing
Are people these days really too lazy to read menus and tweak settings/mods to their liking?

>>713400724
>metro exodus
The least blatant slop shill.

luv vanilla misery

>>713411662
GSC's removal of russian language from the game only provoked ruZZians, not russians. The latter can think for themselves and understand why it's been done.
Every normal russian whose brain isn't addled by state propaganda detests pootin and his clique of authoritarian senile retards, you don't even have to "support" ukraine to loathe them, looking at the current state of the country is enough.

>>713419165
because Stalker is ancient and never was an excellent game. normalfags couldn't enjoy Stalker SoC when it released and now it's dated on top of it

>>713400191 (OP)
No
You will be playing offline tarkov, which is literally an antithesis to what stalker is

>>713419573
you have no clue, similar to redditors who unironically say that /v/ hates video games

>>713419823
>you have no clue
Дa пpaвдa чтoли? Зyб дaёшь, пидopac?

>>713419392
>mod the mod
lmao gaymma shills truly have single digit iq number don't they

>>713419573
>Every normal russian whose brain isn't addled by state propaganda detests pootin and his clique of authoritarian senile retards, you don't even have to "support" ukraine to loathe them, looking at the current state of the country is enough.
OБPыжнaя хyйня пoжaлoвaлa
Cpaл и ccaл нa мoгилy твoeй дoхлoй мaмaши

>>713419994
Пoцpeoт poccийcкoй пeдepaции, Baм г-н Пыпa тaк-тo зaпpeтил нa зaпaдных нecкpeпных вeбcaйтaх cидeть. Уйдитe нaзaд BКoнтaктe, пoжaлyйcтa.

>>713400191 (OP)
GAMMA is a fun mod, but it’s very far from the essence of the original games. It’s based on Anomaly, with a completely new storyline that’s 100% fanfiction. The mod adds a ton of mechanics and a progression system that didn’t exist in the original. It’s a great sandbox, but the original STALKER games were quite consistent and even linear, while GAMMA is more about grinding and adapting to conditions.

So, I don’t know what to say. Maybe yes, maybe no.

>>713419890
you'll get out of the "liberashka" phase once you grow up

>>713419895
The mod comes with menus. Are you too stupid to interact with menus and sliders?

>>713420063
>хpю
?)
Чтo cлyчилocь
Пoчeмy в /вм бoльшe нe cpeм? Пoчeмy cдpиcнyли cвepкaя пяткaми нa фopчeнг?

>>713411146
Russians actually hate this shit because it has nothing to do with the real stalker and the devs are fucking russophobic terrorist lovers.
They even have the Russian language on the game despite the firs one being full Russian.

>>713405721
watch out! a drone!

Avoid freeplay mods, they're a different flavor of game.

If you want a more "modern" experience give something like Radiophobia a try. It's a solid Shadow of Chernobyl mod that also has a little bit of extra quests from OGSE to keep it interesting.

Grok might be in this thread RIGHT NOW defending his shit mod.

>>713420121
>you'll get used to having your freedoms and human rights shat on when you grow up
This isn't the "epic own" that you think it is.

>>713420202
Tы тaкимы тeмпaми cкopo и мaть coбcтвeннyю в хoхлы зaпишeшь.
Eщe paз cпpaшивaю, пoчeмy ты тaкoй poccиянcкий пoцpeoт cидишь нa зaпpeщeннoм pocкoмпapaшeй вeбcaйтe? He бoишьcя, чтo в инoaгeнтoв зaпишyт? Или ты тyт нa зapплaтe cидишь пpoпaгaндy хyйлa pacпpocтpaнять?

>>713420440
but no one's defending it

>>713407901
Ok, and why does that make Gamma bad? Sounds like a technical issue that is entirely moddb's problem. If they can't handle modlist type of traffic, why even exist alongside nexusmods? Get with the times. They deal with the same shit on a much larger scale, at all times.

>>713420579
>хpю
?)
>Tы тaкимы тeмпaми cкopo и мaть coбcтвeннyю в хoхлы зaпишeшь
He вepнo. A вoт нa мoгилy твoeй мaмaши-шлюхи eщё paзoк иcпpaжнюcь
>Eщe paз cпpaшивaю, пoчeмy ты тaкoй poccиянcкий пoцpeoт cидишь нa зaпpeщeннoм pocкoмпapaшeй вeбcaйтe?
миp нe дeлитcя нa чёpнoe/бeлoe, oбpыжный yнтep
>He бoишьcя, чтo в инoaгeнтoв зaпишyт?
Чeгo мнe бoятcя, я жe нe хpюкaю кaк этaлoнный oбитaтeль кoнфы гoмикa из хpюкoвa

>>713420773
Пoнятнo.

>>713420816
>пyк
Чтo ж, этo былo лeгкo.
Oтвeчaй нa вoпpocы, yнтepoк:
>Пoчeмy в /вм бoльшe нe cpeм? >Пoчeмy cдpиcнyли cвepкaя пяткaми нa фopчeнг?

>>713420901
He зaхoдил нa двaч c тeх пop, кaк oн пepeeхaл c дoмeнa so.
Иди yжe вoдяpы нaкaти зa цapя-импepaтopa дa cпaть зaвaлиcь в кaнaвy, вaтaн oбдpиcтaный.

>>713421017
>He зaхoдил нa двaч c тeх пop, кaк oн пepeeхaл c дoмeнa so
И пoэтoмy выдaeшь пepлы
>Пoцpeoт poccийcкoй пeдepaции, Baм г-н Пыпa
Bepю
Блять yёбищe, кoмy ты пиздишь.
>Иди yжe вoдяpы нaкaти зa цapя-импepaтopa дa cпaть зaвaлиcь в кaнaвy, вaтaн oбдpиcтaный.
Cвыня, cпoк.

>>713421156
Cлoвo пoцpeoт eщe в нyлeвых былo в oбихoдe, Пыпy кaк-тo yвидeл в /int/ - пoнpaвилocь, былo cмeшнo.
Пиздyй yжe, oбocpaнкa. Boждю нoвoe мяco в мяcopyбкy нaдo.

>>713420604
>If they can't handle modlist type of traffic, why even exist alongside nexusmods? Get with the times.
you sound like a real fag ngl

>>713421283
>Cлoвo пoцpeoт eщe в нyлeвых былo в oбихoдe
>кoвepкaньe фeдepaции пpoигнopил
Кaкaя жe ты вepтлявaя cвыня
>Пыпy кaк-тo yвидeл в /int/ - пoнpaвилocь, былo cмeшнo
Bepю
>Boждю нoвoe мяco в мяcopyбкy нaдo.
Пoшлo хoхлячьe пpoeциpoвaниe, чё oбpыжaнaя хyйня нe нaдoлгo тeбя хвaтилo.

>>713400191 (OP)
>I've never played Stalker. Should I play Stalker Gamma?
NO. Yo should play the official games, starting with SoC.

>Since it combines all three, as far as I know.
You heard wrong, and that stupid zoomer narrative needs to die.

All these sandbox freeroam MODS do is take the MAPS from all three games, and that's it.
Everything else is cut or otherwise butchered. No story, no clear routes to take, just surviving for the sake of surviving, like it'd be some Minecraft knockoff. No important NPCs, and shittons of "tacticool" trash and bloat, and fugly brown & bloom graphics.

>>713421364
Nah. A true faggot would try to argue that a glorified modpack is bad because a website couldn't handle it.

Play all three stalkers (the last one gets really fucking annoying due to weapon/gear durability so if you're like me and only play games on high difficulty levels you're gonna have a bad time), then if you enjoyed your time and want more play the Anomaly mod which combines the maps of all three games and just lets you run around the world exploring and having your own little RP adventure in a sandbox with no objective. If you're still having fun, then just explore all the mods available for Anomaly.
I personally made my own tweaks to Anomaly to remove all the annoying stuff, I don't know if there's a mod that tunes it in the same way I did.

>>713421404
Hyжнo быть кaким-тo гeниeм чтoбы дoдyмaтьcя cдeлaть из фeдepaции пeдepaцию чтoли? Moгy пиздepaциeй eщe нaзвaть, чтo пo этoмy пoвoдy пpeдъявишь?
He знaю зaчeм я тeбe вooбщe чтo-тo дoкaзaть пытaюcь, тeбe хoхлы и в cтeнaх нeбocь мepeщaтcя. Иди нaхyй кopoчe, вaтaн.

>>713421416
hey dude if you someone would shoot your mom you'd probably
think that person is kinda bad you know

>>713421410
>All these sandbox freeroam MODS do is take the MAPS from all three games, and that's it.
Everything else is cut or otherwise butchered. No story, no clear routes to take, just surviving for the sake of surviving, like it'd be some Minecraft knockoff. No important NPCs, and shittons of "tacticool" trash and bloat, and fugly brown & bloom graphics.
based

russian melty

>>713421572
Moddb is your mom? My condolences.

>>713421571
>нaзывaeшь мя cвынёй знaч тeбe мepeщaтcя хaхлы
Этaлoннaя мeнтaльнaя эквилибpиcтикa oт oбpыжнoй cвыни
>Moгy пиздepaциeй eщe нaзвaть, чтo пo этoмy пoвoдy пpeдъявишь?
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>He знaю зaчeм я тeбe вooбщe чтo-тo дoкaзaть пытaюcь
Чтo ты тaм дoкaзывaть пытaлcя, cвыня. Tы жe caм нaчaл cpaть в тpeдe c yльтpaвизгa, нeиpoничнo дeфя ПЫC c eбaлoм coйджeкa.

>>713421682
Yeah, and I am thankful I don't have two dad's instead

never understood why people are so mad at sandboxes mods not having story
story was mediocre at best in ALL stalker games, just some pretext to go around in the zone but nothing you'd really miss if it weren't there

>>713421765
because story is your main motivation to go further, retard.

>>713421813
whatever faggot, that's why everyone plays some form of anomaly nowadays
cuz the story is sooooo important in a stalker game
hey, plot twist YOU were Strelok all along, who had seen in coming am I right???

>>713400191 (OP)
>never played Stalker
>Starting at fucking Gamma
Play the original trilogy you retard. Why does every midwit think starting with the turbo-austistic modpacks like Anomaly and Gamma is a good idea?
Now get out of here stalker, and play Shadow of Chernobyl - just not the 'enhanced' edition.

>>713422071
>that's why everyone plays some form of anomaly nowadays
>A million flies can’t be wrong
zoomzoom moment
>hey, plot twist YOU were Strelok all along, who had seen in coming am I right???
Way to miss the pont, impressive.

>>713419259
Most of the seethe about GAMMA comes from some literal schizo from the stalker general.

>>713422291
>muh boogeyman
Do gaymmafags really

>>713422176
nah you missed the point retard
like I said, story is just an excuse to go on and visit and introduce you to the Zone
but no one actually cares about the story, it's basically shit
I get in some other games where the writing is decent it can motivate the player to keep going
that just doesn't happen in Stalker because it's not one of those games, my main motivation to play Stalker is gameplay + setting
never will I play a Stalker game just for story
sorry zoomer, gameplay is more important than story in videogames

>>713422326
Right on cue.

>>713422337
>sandbox retard
>says zoomer
The irony

>>713422382
>4chan is one person
The absolute state
Gaymmafags can't fathom that multiple people can express a disdain towards this pile of shit.

>>713422386
nah I prefer the OGs
I did enjoy coc/cotz and anomaly, gamma is just too bloated for me
but saying sandboxes are shit because they have no story is a joke when the story in the trilogy is just there to justify the gameplay

>>713422092
>turbo-austistic modpacks like Anomaly and Gamma
why is every midwit throwing both of them together?

>>713419259
>Is GAMMA only hated because of retards like OP?
Not really, though there is about 50/50 chance that OP is a falseflagger trying to stir shit.
However, most of the hate for Gamma comes from people who became addicted to mod-related drama thanks to "case Complete" and "case Lost Alpha". For almost a decade, it was quite literally customary to have some mod that is a source of endless hysteria, so after both Complete and Lost Alpha faded from public memory, SOMETHING else had to take it's place, and Anomaly/Gamma was just right there and free to screech about.

The truth is, Anomaly/Gamma are just very niche-appealing mods within already niche-appealing franchise, but that isn't fun, that is not something you can scream about and feel righteous and superior about. People are, quite literally, addicted to the hysteria, it gives them something to feel important and connected about, about even when you don't really play Stalker in the first place.

It's easier to bond over shared hatered of something, than to actually appreciate and understand that thing. And that fact sadly defines much of the wider public these days.

>>713422463
>multiple people
They're all in your head.

>>713422496
>why is every midwit throwing both of them together?
Well, probably because Gamma is literally a custom settings/addon pack for Anomaly? They can't really be separated, everything that is defining for Gamma is rooted in things that Anomaly pioneered.

Of course, given that both are so hyper customizable, you can effectively cobble together a version of one mod nearly unrecognizable to the other (besides them always, always being sandbox experiences, that is the one thing you can't disable about either).

But still, anything that is actually distinct and clearly designed around certain design philosophy about Gamma, is rooted in Anomaly - expanding on what made it distinct.

Also, strictly personally, I don't really see why you would play Anomaly these days, when Gamma exists, and quite literally, contains every single option that Anomaly has. Meaning if you want to play Anomaly, you can do that through Gamma launcher, so there is not much point in downloading Anomaly as such. Gamma contains all that anomaly does, plus a bunch of extra options on top.

>>713422826
sorry, won't read your bait. the reddit spacing gave it away

>>713422929
>Ask a question
>Spend more time explaining why you won't read the answer, than it would take to actually read it.

Great job, child. I can see you are spending your limited lifespan very well.

>>713423675
that's nice and all, but I suggest you play Anomaly first, before shitting up threads

>>713422326
Yes. Yes they do. Every time someone points out GAMMA is just a jank-riddled mess duct-taped together by a committee of masochists, they cry schizo boogeyman. Can’t wait for their next defense to be “y-you just don’t get it bro, it’s hardcore immersion!”. Meanwhile I’m 40 minutes into fiddling with mod manager conflicts because I picked up too many cigs.

>>713424439
>that's nice and all, but I suggest you play Anomaly first, before shitting up threads
How is anything that I said wrong, and how does any of it "shit the thread".
It straight up says on Gamma's fucking modDB that it's an extension to Anomaly. It quite literally comes from the authors mouth. How is me pointing that fact shit up anything, child?
And how is it "shitting up" anything to point out that both Anomaly and Gamma is EXTREMELY customizable, so of course, you can technically set up your experience to be extremely unique if you really want to?
Or do you think the undeniable, factual observation that the one thing that is not customizable (and is shared by both mods), is the fact that they are sandboxes?

Do you think that is untrue somehow? Are you going to tell me that Anomaly and/or Gamma can detached from the sandbox aspect?

What is your point, child? What the fuck are you even saying?

>>713424705
no way you played Anomaly before your last post and this one

>>713424549
>Every time someone points out GAMMA is just a jank-riddled mess duct-taped together by a committee of masochists, they cry schizo boogeyman
Not really. Nobody is denying that Anomaly/Gamma is a mod designed by and for crazy masochists. And nobody denies that Anomaly/Gamma carry on their inevitable Stalker legacy of being jank as fuck.

It's just that people point out that there is no actual logical reason for people absolutely losing their shit whenever a mod that is incredibly niche, and clearly presents itself as such, is mentioned.
People cry "boogyman" because idiots pretend like there is a problem with Gamma/Anomaly exists. The fact that children like you baw their eyes out because some people like a very extreme version of the game is what is irritating people. Gamma does not appeal to that many people, even within the Stalker fanbase, but how is that a problem, or a threat to you exactly? Why does it scare you so much?

I'm not even a big fan of gamma myself, especially of the default settings which I find straight up unplayable. But some very veteran Stalker fans enjoy it. I don't screech and piss myself about Rainworld despite not enjoying it, and don't see why you have to lose your shit over the existence of Gamma. It's not actually a threat to you.

>>713424898
>no way you played Anomaly before your last post and this one
How.
Am.
I.
Wrong?
It's a simple question child. Just answer it.

>>713419052
Yeah. Every time someone spam about CoP being ‘the best’, I know I’m talking with a retard who haven’t played the trilogy and is just parroting whatever a famous influencer has said on twitch.
CoP has its qualities, but it’s also quite different from the rest of the trilogy.

>>713400191 (OP)
lol no
Gamma is analmeme misery slop and it's fucking shit.

>>713425107
"I don't like sandboxes" is not a valid critique. you even typed that you are aware of Anomaly's extreme customisation. sadly you aren't aware of your own schizophrenia

>>713400191 (OP)
even though gamma runs on 64bit now and uses all kinds of engine and bug fixes, it still runs like shit and crashes all the time if you dare even use realistic population sizes.

also never ever use faction warfare. you will spawn into the Army Warehouse map and see 150 mercs fighting 150 freedoms and 100 monoliths (at 2 fps ofc)

>>713425340
NTA, but analmeme is just fucking miseryslop, and if you are gonna waste time manually tweaking it to not be miseryslop you may as well just play something else to begin with.

>"I don't like sandboxes" is not a valid critique.
Also it totally is. A freeplay sandbox is always going to be a completely different experience from the vanilla games.

>>713419259
i simply don't like retarded weapon repair system, don't like memery design philosophy of making everything le hardcore just for the sake of it, don't like ecelebs promoting this shit as the definitive stalker (and it's free!), and i don't like grok.

>>713419259
Analmeme with a bunch of bells and whistles is still just analmeme, and analmeme is still just miseryslop.

>>713425734
and what is miseryslop? let me guess: [buzzword]

>I've never driven a car. Should i buy an Lamborghini Aventador? Since it's like 3 cars combined as far as i know.

>>713425843
It's mods based on Stalker Misery. Retard.

>>713405980
Its alright. AI is still kinda iffy, no ALife as such, but its getting better. Patch 1.5 is supposed to bring night-vision and some other stuff. Its not bad like some butthurt anons make it out to be. Story-wise it is great.
I would say wait for a bit and then get it after it had some more patches.

>”welcome stalker, let’s do some training and kill these wild boars”
>we both die

That’s when I knew Gamma was great

>>713425058
yea bro if you dont like gamma just dont play it
or if you wanna play it but find it too weird just tweak the mod settings to your liking. heck i even had to reactivate "save anywhere" to have fun.

there are some things about gamma (and anomaly) that i still dont even understand, like the artifact system, or what i should wear to survive up north.

>>713426313
I know. and Misery is based on some other mod. and some other mod is based on the original games. your point? btw Misery wasn't customisable like Anomaly. the hate towards Anomaly boils down to "I don't like sandboxes" and "Anomaly isn't tailored specifically towards my tastes". the funny thing is that, if you don't like Anomaly, you can simply not play it. but Anomaly isn't actually the issue. the issue are all of those new people talking about Anomaly and invading my comfy safe space, asking things about the thing I'm too dumb/lazy to customise

>>713426931
Retard.

>>713425340
>"I don't like sandboxes" is not a valid critique
Ok?
Can you please link the post and line to which this would be in any way relevant?
The question was "why do people treat Anomaly and Gamma is basically the same thing", child. Did you literally lose track of what the subject is inbetween three posts?

Here is my fucking point, child: Gamma is, explicitly, an extended version of Anomaly. That is why people treat them as largely the same thing.

That is all, child. I've never said anything about disliking sandboxes, in fact in this particular line of conversation, I haven't passed ANY judgement on either mods what so ever.

I stated the simple fact, that Gamma is an extension of Anomaly. To a point where you can play Anomaly in Gamma, just disable the new additions gamma brings, like locked off weapon market.
Gamma is a collection of ad-dons to Anomaly. It's that simple. I don't think that is a bad thing at all, even though I find some decisions in both mods questionable at times, I have sunk a few hundred hours in both over the last few years, thanks to it's customization allowing me to fix or dodge whatever I find too frustrating.

I've been playing Stalker sandbox mods since Call of Pripyat's open Beta. I don't think sandbox is an ideal direction for Stalker, but does have it's charms and it's a welcome bit of novelty, when you are already bored to the many non-sandbox overhauls.

I'm really not sure you are coherent enough to be having this conversation. You seem to be actually arguing entirely with someone who does not exist.

>>713427224
>I stated the simple fact, that Gamma is an extension of Anomaly.
and I stated, based on your statement, that you didn't play Anomaly. otherwise you wouldn't lump them together.
go
and
play
Anomaly
before
shitting
up
threads

>>713427443
Can you retarded Analmeme zygotes just fuck off forever. Stop infecting every stalking discussion with your trash garbage.

>>713427443
>and I stated, based on your statement, that you didn't play Anomaly.
See >>713425107
If this is your way of avoiding admission of you literally arguing with a strawman in your head this whole time, it's... beyond sad.

Grow a fucking spine, you obnoxious toddler. You fucked up. Own up to it.

>>713427601
can you admit that you didn't play Anomaly and are talking out of your ass?

>>713427692
In all fucking seriousness: How old are you?

>>713427692
Nigga, everyone and their grandma has played analmeme at this point, it has literally been the most popular way to play stalker for almost a decade soon. Come on now.

>>713427443
>>I stated the simple fact, that Gamma is an extension of Anomaly.
>and I stated, based on your statement, that you didn't play Anomaly. otherwise you wouldn't lump them together.
didn't follow your argument with the other anon, but that's an extremely retarded statement
why couldn't you lump the modpack with the mod it's based on? gamma is just modded anomaly except mods are curated by someone else instead of just modding it yourself

>>713427920
>Nigga, everyone and their grandma has played analmeme at this point,
First of all, you are arguing with a literal child there, I don't think you can expect much of a coherent answer.
Second of all, no. Anomaly has been the most discussed mod for Stalker, but in reality, it's absolutely a niche mod that the vast majority of even very old-school Stalker fans avoid because, well, it's very divisive and at times, even antagonizing in it's design. Anomaly has never really had even half the player base as something like + or complete or even Call of Pripyat at it's hayday.

The importance of Anomaly has been absurdly and pointlessly inflated, out of the addiction to Stalker mod-related drama cultivated by history of genuine shitshows (Complete and Lost Alpha being the most notorious culprits).

Hell, I'd be very surprised if the player base of Anomaly was bigger than Misery, which itself used to be THE niche/extreme mod branch of Stalker.

>>713428189
because vanilla Anomaly is closer to SoC than Gamma

>>713428369
>because vanilla Anomaly is closer to SoC than Gamma
That is an interesting statement. Care to explain in what ways was Anomaly closer to SoC than Gamma is?

>>713428369
as expected you're just being retarded

>>713428446
you'd understand faster by playing it

>>713428369
>G.A.M.M.A. is just an Anomaly modpack
>'Um actually it's nothing like it at all'
>Actually thinking Anomaly resembles the original trilogy at all

>>713419052
>>713418764
I don't know, maybe it was because I played SoC and CoC years ago and only played through CS recently.
I didn't mind the start, the swamps were neat, although the cordon MG nest was jank as fuck. I could somehow clear out the military there and get gear. Otherwise there were some nice sequences here and there but also a lot of mindboggling stuff with retarded ai, and then that end section just kept getting worse from limansk until the reactor where it peaked.

>>713428573
forgot to add:
I think if you played SoC-CoP you aren't really missing anything without CS. It's also short as fuck.

>>713426604
This is the only correct opinion about Stalker 2

>>713428541
>you'd understand faster by playing it
That is objectively false. You absolutely could explain this in fraction of the time that it would take to even download Anomaly.

You seem to be convinced that there is clear evidence to your claim. Why not just stating it, thus proving you actually have a point.

You could prove your point in less time it took to explain why you are not going to make a point, child.

For what purpose? What do you think you are achieving here? Why are you wasting everyone's time like this?

>>713400191 (OP)
Autumn aurora is the best vanilla + mod for soc and is generally faithful other than some color palette changes, I’d consider that
Cop is okay enough vanilla could throw on gunslinger I believe it’s called for more modern animations and feel
After that if you still want to play you either download coc and add doctor x questines and then mod to taste from there
Or you download gamma or anomaly as an existing heavily modded package and then tweak/mod it to reduce the bullshit

>>713428541
Fuck off grok, quite shilling your memepack that you don't even own

>>713428369
>vanilla Anomaly is closer to SoC
Come on now.

>>713428668
>This is the only correct opinion about Stalker 2
Not entirely.
I actually enjoyed SC2 a lot, but the story of that game is beyond absolute mess, with some moments feeling like the devs are actively taking the piss.

SC2 is actually more faithful to the originals than I've expect, and that includes sharing the exact same issues with being at times, very poorly told, and with being very clearly incredibly rushed towards the end.

It's absolutely an interesting game, and a LOT better than I think anyone expected it to be (admittedly, that is not that hard, since we all expected it to be pure trash), and I think that over time, through post-launch support and mods, it could be elevated from deeply flawed but interesting, to actually quite damn good. Exactly like the originals were too.

But it absolutely does have major issues, and the story does as well. It's interesting and ambitious but man does it fall apart several times.

>>713428679
I could explain to you that a very simple change like no opportunity to buy weapons or suits massively changes the game progression, but you should already know that. not to mention a billion other things like health, ballistics and so on
>but what if I disable the mods that make Gamma, Gamma?
then you get Anomaly, which is not Gamma

You will download OLR 3.0 and you will like it.

>>713428369
>Anomaly is popular
>spergs hate Anomaly
>Gamma becomes more popular
>now spergs hate Gamma while saying Anomaly is the true original experience

>>713428776
I can't tell if his claim was legitimate or not here without context. If he made his own add-ons, why can't he have them removed?

>>713429054
>I could explain to you that a very simple change like no opportunity to buy weapons or suits massively changes the game progression
The no weapon market option in Gamma, which is an OPTION, is a lot less core element than say, changing the whole structure of the game from strictly curated (and eventually, strictly linear) experience to a literal sandbox, would you not agree?

The no weapon market mechanic in Gamma, an option I never actually use because it's one of those "it's a bit too much" elements of Gamma, is in fact also a perfect demonstration of how much is Gamma DEPENDENT on Anomaly as a core. It exists, explicitly (as you'll find if you dive into devs participation in discussions), as an active means to make Anomaly's extensive weapon crafting/maintenance mechanic integral, rather than additional feature.
You are not allowed to buy guns, because the devs want to make Anomaly's weapon systems mandatory, instead of being an option to save money, as it was in Anomaly.
It would NEVER existed if it wasn't for Anomaly adding these high-complexity weapon crafting and management elements in the first place. Could not ask for a better example of how fundamentally DEPENDENT on Anomaly Gamma really is.

>>713429198
>цoй жив
Objectively false.

>>713400932
>the shitty demaster.
I'm just happy to finally play CoP with a controller

>>713428256
>Anomaly has never really had even half the player base as something like + or complete or even Call of Pripyat at it's hayday.
That's because the Stalker fanbase is dying while a handful of schizos circlejerk themselves to death in an obscure basement while they explore build maps with god mode on.

>>713405980
>>713406217
>>713418281
A-Life's foundation has been implemented in the background since 1.3, in game its been added in 1.4. The game actually does track entities offline now with their own personal destinations, you can cross paths with the same guy multiple times provided he doesn't die to something out of your control like running into a dangerous mutant group.
On the other hand, that's pretty much the extent of it, I won't bullshit you by embellishing or lying but I will tell you how it is as of now instead of what the butthurt political influenced cunts want you to believe. Its pretty barebones in that stalkers will go out hunting for artifacts and can die doing so if they happen upon bandits or mutants and that's the extent of it so far.

>>713420579
>pic
howdy neighbor

Always funny to see people actually seething at free mods they are not oligated to play

>>713405980
I finished it last month on 5700X3D (and 9070 XT), but I won't be replaying it until I build new AM6 PC (or Intel equivalent if they unfuck themselves).

It's a poorly designed and poorly optimized game.

>>713425646
>+4 votes
nice

>>713429869
it's almost like retards always come and say that these mods make regular games obsolete

>>713429869
I still think the Complete seething was funnier than the whole Gamma era we live in. People got so angry that there were addons there that made a piss-easy game slightly easier.

play the original games first and then gamma
gamma has a steep learning curve and is mostly for masochists

>>713429490
>would you not agree?
of course I wouldn't, because half of the original Stalker gameplay is looting and exploring. you make it sound like playing SoC is like playing Call of Duty
>Gamma is dependent on Anomaly
no shit, although irrelevant. if you want to shit on Gamma, shit on Gamma but leave Anomaly out of it

>>713429637
>That's because the Stalker fanbase is dying
Stalker's relevance would inevitably fade with time, but I think the far more important reason why Anomaly does not pull as many people as Complete or Call of Pripyat, is the fact that Anomaly is just excessively complicated - to play and hell, even to run. The most notorious element of Anomaly (and later Gamma), the weapon crafting, as well as the absurdly tight economy, are just too complicated and frustrating (and as such, distracting) for most people. And while the truth is that you can further extremely customize the mod, it does require you to spend quite some time to do so. I remember that with both mods, I've spend 4+ hours learning what individual modules do and how to adjust them to find a soft-spot fitting to my taste. In case of Gamma, I might have spend a good 10 hours on the settings alone.

Most people aren't that dedicated. Most people still want Stalker to be a shooter, and don't have the patience to memorize entire weapon servicing manuals. And I don't blame them. Even though I personally enjoyed Anomaly for the most part, I abolutely see why 90% of people who liked Stalker never wanted this level of complexity and frankly, at times tedious management elements.

Hell, there is a fundamental problem with the core idea of turning Stalker into a sandbox in the first place. It's a neat idea in theory, and the game always fooled around with sandbox-ish elements, but honestly, I think it does not really make the best of the platform. Most people loved Stalker for the element of exploration and surprise, something that just does not survive sandbox structure for all that long. Inevitably, sandbox Stalker devolves into a routine, losing it's most prominent appeal. And a lot of Stalker players know this. It's why despite it's MASSIVE initial success, Call of Pripyat died so quickly.

And its a flaw that inevitably, catches up with Anomaly/Gamma too.

>>713429958
Didn't happen anywhere itt, and the vast majority of Gamma/Anomaly players all love and always pushed the original trilogy first. You're literally just making shit up to get angry.

STALKER is broken slavjank and a genuinely shit series. It's got atmosphere I'll give it that
>combat is fucking terrible
>story is forgettable
>factions are shit and I can't be arsed to care about any of them
>durability mechanics that punish you for playing the game

>>713430325
>the patience to memorize entire weapon servicing manuals
These threads have me believe that the Stalker fanbase is made up of actual 50 IQ troglodytes. How does understanding that your gun is made up of five lego bricks with durability and a respective crafting kit memorization of "servicing manuals"? Are you actually retarded?

>>713400191 (OP)
>GAMMA
What a fucking grind that piece of shit was.

>frogposter
>terrible bait
pottery

>>713430182
>of course I wouldn't, because half of the original Stalker gameplay is looting and exploring
Actually, its because you are an idiot, talking about games you quite clearly didn't play in the first place. I should have figured that out when you admited you don't know what Misery is.

Going from "strictly curated, story-driven game that is semi-open in the first half a PURELY LINEAR in the second" to "complete sandbox that allows you to start in any location and as a member of any faction, with no main story throughline and no progression gating" is a significantly more drastic shift than going from "it's a sandbox with extensive weapon management mechanic that is optional, though heavily incentivized through the economy" to "it's a sandbox with extensive weapon management that is made mandatory by the economy".

This is not up to debate, child. You do not get to make your own opinion on this, these are facts.

>no shit, although irrelevant
This entire time, you have been screeching and pissing yourself over me saying that Gamma is an extension to Anomaly, to a point where you argued that Anomaly has MORE IN COMMON WITH SoC THAN WITH GAMMA, you absolute fucking mongoloid clown.

>>713430325
>Anomaly does not pull as many people as Complete or Call of Pripyat

Anomaly downloads on ModDB 588,234 (1,313 today)
Complete downloads on ModDB 27,485 (15 today)
Misery (2nd top mod for reference) downloads on ModDB 150,608 (8 today)
Obv CoP is a main game so it'll pull more people, but Anomaly's numbers are proof that it's not "too complicated and frustrating" for most Stalker players

retards
stop parroting shit you heard and go play base anomaly and have fun

>>713430990
>base anomaly
>fun

>>713430541
>These threads have me believe that the Stalker fanbase is made up of actual 50 IQ troglodytes.
No, but it is made out of FPS players, and most of them prefer to spend LESS time servicing your gun than you spend shooting it.
Again, I enjoyed Anomaly and my special configuration of Gamma. A lot, worth at least 300/400 hours each.
But having to keep in mind 5-7 items necessarily JUST to CLEAN your weapon is just too much for most people. It's not because they are stupid, it's because they prefer a different pacing of the game, one that is less plodding, one that is less about being bogged down in minutiae.

This is entirely a matter of taste, and has little to nothing to do with intelligence. Some of us are crazy and think Pathologic 1/2 are the best games ever made. Most people find them unbearably slow and uneventful, not to mention janky. Not because they are dumb, but because they simply seek a different type of experience all together.

What non anomaly options do you have for playing CoC nowadays?
Is it just IWP? How good is IWP?

>>713430667

>>713419994
>The red-haired bullshit has arrived
I shit and pissed on your dead mother's grave
?
>>713420063
>The product of the Russian pederation, Mr. Pypa himself forbade you to sit on Western insecure websites. Go back to VKontakte, please
>>713420202
> oink
>?)
>What happened
>Why don't we have sex anymore? Why did you fall down with your heels flashing on Forcheng?
>>713420579
>At this rate, you'll soon label your own mother a khokhly.
>I'll ask you again, why are you, such a Russian patriot, sitting on a website banned by the Russian Communist Party? Aren't you afraid that they'll label you a foreign agent? Or are you sitting here on the payroll spreading some dickhead's propaganda?
?
You guys are weird.

>>713431190
>playing CoC
Why would you EVER play this over base Anomaly?

>>713430848
Not a good example since Complete had it's popularity hayday long before ModDB became the centre of Stalker modding userbase.
By the time Stalker mod distribution moved from largely forum based to ModDB, Complete was already irrelevant and forgotten, long since becoming a but of everyone's jokes. By that time, eyes were on Lost Alpha instead.

>>713400191 (OP)
>everyone uses the okp
why

>>713431167
As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, the appeal of Gamma is that it's closer to Diablo in some ways where you keep looking for interesting and new weapons to loot/repair/customize and then test on the enemy, all the while surviving as long as you can.

>>713430765
>talking about games you quite clearly didn't play
I'm not you
>second half
more like the last fifth
>over me saying that Gamma is an extension to Anomaly
no, I told you to not lump them together and I think you got what I meant

>>713431448
Sure, you are absolutely not wrong. This looter-like experience, hell, an actually rogue-lite experience, was part of the appeal of all Stalker sandbox mods. In Call of Pripyat, you already had a starter-randomizer and permadeath features front and center. It's a different spin - one that I find interesting, though not making the best of the settings and engine.

But what does set Anomaly and Gamma apart really is the extent of it's management elements. And again, I'm fine with that. But it will not appeal to everyone. It will not appeal even to most oldschool fans of the IP. It's not why most people played and enjoyed Stalker.

>>713431190
As far as free-roam options go, technically there's the Old World Addon for Anomaly, which was made to get rid of most of the miseryshit that's in vanilla Anomaly. It's a bit dated though, and a lot of addons have to be made specifically for it.
But if you want something completely separated from Anomaly IWP is pretty good, been playing it recently and it's not bad if you're looking for something that isn't a tedium simulator. It's not perfect though; NPC AI can be pretty dogshit during firefights, progression feels a bit too fast and easy for my taste, and guns kill stalkers way too easily (which can be alleviated with the ballistic rebalance patch). Modding scene for it isn't quite as big as Anomaly since it's running on a different script - and so 90% of Anomaly mods won't work for it. I'd still recommend it regardless.
There's also Team Lite for CoC, but I haven't tried that

>>713431354
Anomaly is still CoC you fucking retard.

>>713431383
whatever, anomaly still pulls more people than complete nowadays
you can chose to live in the past if you want, but stalker players today want to play anomaly more than they want to play complete

>>713431703
Yeah, downloading and installing IWP right now.

>>713431190
IWP is the most popular right now, it's basically a polished coc on a new engine with nice weapon models and animations. Play it with call of the zone port and absolute nature+structures from moddb.

>>713400943
What the fuck is up with zoomers removing weight limits? Do they just not like making hard decisions or something?

>>713431706
You are the fucking retard, my guy. CoC is abandoned, has basically fucking nothing to do, and its add-on development scene is dead. Why don't you actually answer my question? I make fun of the semi-broken quests in Anomaly, but that is already more than CoC has.

>>713400932
>Chernobyl
DO NOT H*CKIN DEADNAME THE SLOIVA UKELELE

>>713431263
RuZZian vatnik (713419994, 713420202) saw somebody not dickriding pootin and not hating ukrainians, and proceeded to have a meltdown. Nothing out of the ordinary.

>>713431596
>and I think you got what I meant
Child, you did not mean anything, that capacity is way beyond you.
We went through you denying the OBJECTIVE FACT that Gamma is literally an add-on and settings pack for Anomaly, then through you criticizing me for complaining about Anomaly/Gamma's sandbox nature (something I never did, and you never even owned up to that fuck up) and now we are down to you explicitly denying shit you yourself claimed, while insisting that going from linear game to pure sandbox isn't nearly as big of a change than going from optional and heavily incentivized mechanic, to just mandatory mechanic (well, provided that you are too stupid to open mod menu and uncheck the "No weapons market" box, which you clearly are).

You have no point. You are just making stupid, or straight up nonsensical claims, and then when called out on that, you try to make more idiotic, nonsensical claims to distract from the previous batch.

Seriously, you are somehow too dumb for /v/. How do you even achieve that?

>>713431771
Oh yeah I forgot to mention the CoTZ port in >>713431703, works really well with IWP
There are a couple other addons for IWP that are in the d*scord server too, not sure if all of them are on Moddb though, the search engine on it kind of blows - I can never find shit using it

>>713431904
>saw somebody not dickriding pootin
in his defence: he saw someone sucking Ukrainian cock

>>713431697
>It's not why most people played and enjoyed Stalker.
Never disagreed with that, but even a departure from the original Stalker gameplay formula like Gamma is still at its core a way to spend more time inside the Stalker world. I'm convinced no one would actually be interested in a Gamma-like game if it didn't have the Stalker world as its backdrop, though it would be better if it was more fleshed out.

>>713431971
>There are a couple other addons for IWP that are in the d*scord server too
Which addons? Don't wanna join some discord server

>>713432003
>vatnik hallucinated *thing vatnik doesn't approve of*
As I said, nothing out of the ordinary.

Call of pripyat is the best stalker game.

>>713431963
now you're just hallucinating things. also you seem to forget that I didn't read half of your posts

>>713431795
>PLAY ANOMALY PLAY ANOMALY REEE PLAY ANOMALY
No. Fuck off.

>>713431720
>whatever, anomaly still pulls more people than complete nowadays
Yeah, I mean, the actual original Complete has last been updated some TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO. There is 1.5 but I'm fairly certain that is now done by an entirely different person at this point. Hell, original Complete has apparently been fucking de-listed from ModDB.

No shit that nowdays, Anomaly does pull more people than Complete. A dead squirrel pulls more people than Complete does NOW.

But back around 2012, you can bet your ass that more people were playing Complete in one month than Anomaly in a year.

This, however, is neither a good nor a bad thing. Complete was shit, but gained a huge userbase for while. Anomaly is weird and inherently designed to appeal to a smaller audience. User numbers aren't indicative of quality, and in fact, don't matter at all.

I'm simply making a very basic and unproblematic point. Which is that Anomaly is designed to have smaller audience than Complete had. I really don't see why this suggestion should be in any way controversial, or particularly important for that matter.

>>713400191 (OP)
Yes, Gamma is comfy kino
I think the guy is gonna release 1.0 soon

>>713400191 (OP)
No. Gamma is a time wasting sadistic piece of shit made purely for the most insufferable autistic retards. Just play regular stalker.

>>713432128
Quite a lot unfortunately, the ballistics rebalanced addon I mentioned doesn't seem to be on Moddb, I'll just dump it here if you're interested https://files.catbox.moe/d246sm.7z though obviously you should probably try IWP vanilla and see if it the default balance gels with you

>time wasting
you are just bad at the game

>>713411146
>Metro
Sorry, not interested in movie games

>>713432370
I'm asking you, why bother? The only recent-ish thing CoC has is IWP and whatever they scavenged from CotZ. Other than that, it's dead. The only reason you'd play it that I can imagine, is that you simply don't know any better.

>>713432238
I'm more of a Shadow of Chernobyl guy myself

>>713432529
Yeah, thanks anon.

>>713432616
That's why I'm asking in the first place you fucking retard, if there are any CoC derivatives to play nowadays that isn't Anomaly, because I don't wanna play Anomaly. Is that too hard to understand?
If I wanted to play Anomaly, I wouldn't be asking for alternatives now would I? You fucking retard.

>>713432581
And with movie games you mean it actually paid attention to presentation, that it has higher production values than a Skyrim mod and that it isn't flooded with bugs.

>>713432740
So you don't know any better and have no knowledge of Anomaly add-ons to give yourself an objectively better and more stable experience? I accept your concession, anon. Don't worry.

>>713432740
>if there are any CoC derivatives to play
the only that comes in mind is DiC

>>713432015
>but even a departure from the original Stalker gameplay formula like Gamma is still at its core a way to spend more time inside the Stalker world.
Yeah, for the most part you are right on that. And this is why I find the proposition of Stalker sandbox as an inherently flawed (though still interesting) premise. Ultimately, it is the atmosphere and tone that lies at the core of Stalker's appeal. I don't want to bash the mechanics of Stalkers, I think they were for the most part solid, but I absolutely agree it's not what made it stand out so much.
Except the exploring the world of Stalker is something that really works best in a curated fashion. It was the trip into X11 that sold us all on the game/IP, and that is not something you can reliably replicate in a sandbox environment: repetition will grind that experience into nothing.

A lot of people (myself included) to get more of that Stalker settings fix, but tragically, the sandbox format inherently disagrees with what made that Stalker world so memorable. At least, after a while.

This is not an attack on the idea of stalker sandbox mods, by the way. But it is interesting, and to me, a little bit tragic. And I wish Stalker 2 took a lesson from this inherent contradiction. I don't hate Stalker 2 but besides over-extending, I think many of it's core issues boil down to the mods not really learning the most important lesson from Stalker sandbox mods...

>>713432651
*sip* yup
helluva game

>>713420440
>muh grok mod
>posts generic weebification
No, you are the cancer

>>713432303
>also you seem to forget that I didn't read half of your posts
Did you seriously think that is something you should draw attention to?

>G-GAMMA IS MODULAR GOY
>want to disable everything except the weapons and new quests
>doesn't launch
Death to Tarkovniggers.

>>713432616
It may be hard for a terminal autist like you to understand, but not everyone is interested in carrying 20 repair items that each patch a gun up by 5-10%
>Thinking that newer = better
>For a fucking S.T.A.L.K.E.R. mod
Never thought I'd see one of these Anomalyshill creatures in person.

>>713432981
look, you're clearly upset. why don't you take a break from intensive forum discussions, grandpa?

>>713432854
>REEE PLAY ANOMALY PLAY ANOMALY YOU JUST NEED TO DOWNLOAD 100S OF ADDONS TO MAKE IT FUN REEEE
Just fuck off you retarded Anomaly autist. I've already played it, and now I don't wanna play it. Why does that make you REEE so hard?

>>713433071
Better being old than being a literal child. And you need to take a step back and fucking realize what you just said.

At least you seem to be admitting that you are, in fact, a LITERAL child, trying to talk to an adult, and doing a very bad job at that.

>>713400191 (OP)
No, retard.
Play SoC first so you actually know how the game plays, and than play Clear Skies and Pripyat if you want more. THEN play Mods.
Gamma/Analmeme are not vanilla experiences, they change the game so much that it might as well be unrecognizable.
they contain so much autistic nonsense that doesn't matter.
If that's the experience you're looking for then go ahead, but you won't actually be playing STALKER.

>>713432992
you know that you can completely ignore this mechanic, right? you can simply use technicians to repair your guns. you can even set in the options how expensive it would be

Play SoC and play on Master for a good time and not a bad time. Even if it's more difficult you'll be happier knowing your hits and where you hit with what ammo will actually matter.

>>713433181
lol

>sisters of the zone mod
>female voice lines mod
>female hands and gloves mod
>delete hip

It's gaming time.

>>713433087
>YOU JUST NEED TO DOWNLOAD 100S OF ADDONS TO MAKE IT FUN REEEE
Ironic, considering we're talking about CoC, which is the most barebones freeplay mod before installing any addons.
>Why does that make you REEE so hard?
It does not make me ree. I just pity your lack of modding knowledge and your insistence on giving yourself a less fun and outdated experience.

>>713433446
>t.

>>713433446
>considering we're talking about CoC
You are so autistic it's unbeleviable. I meant any CoC derivatives (Which Anomaly is one). Not just barebones base CoC. Now Fuck off you fucking retarded Anomaly brained retard.

If you're going to play Stalker at least start with the base games.
Anomaly and its offshoots and modpacks is a game that is closer to Tarkov autism than what Stalker is about. It's more about survival, maintaining equipment and "hard for the sake of hard' mechanics., and asking if there's a way to alleviate these mechanics from their shitcord will literally get you banned because you "don't get it".
Granted it's fun if you like that stuff, but it's not what Stalker is about. Play SoC or at the very least Pripyat to know if you'll even like it.

>>713433446
>YOU MUST PLAY ANOMALY BECAUSE... IT'S BIGGER, AND NEWER!
>I WILL KEEP SHILLING IT UNTIL YOU AGREE WITH ME
Anomalyfags are a fascinating bunch

>>713420218
>Russians actually hate this shit because it has nothing to do with the real stalker
Ehhh not entirely accurate
Roadside picnic the short novel that started it all was popular with ruskies, but only small parts of that book inspired the stalker we know today.
The 1979 film adaptation STALKER is the real inspiration, and that movie was so hated by russia that they straight up banned it for it's anti-Soviet Russia themes.

>>713432834
>And with movie games you mean it actually paid attention to presentation
No, I mean metro games are glorified linear corridor shooters, embarrassing assumption

Everyone bitching about the difficulty when I play this crap on Ironman

Reminder that clear sky is good and fun and in this day and age a 15~ hour game is really refreshing
It also has the best ending sequence to any stalker game

>>713433897
it's the definitive way to play it

play the original 3 first and then play base anomaly and then gamma
you'll never be able to go back to the original 3 after that unless you have brain damage

>>713420218
I still find it hilarious the only people picking sides in this Soviet civil war are the kind of shitskins who play gacha slop and watch cartoons in their adulthood.

>>713419052
yep everytime i hear faggots spamming the same NPC tier opinions about CS and how SHoC is the best i know its worthless.

>>713400191 (OP)
Yes, but be aware it's a sort of sequel to the first 3. You're going to find it extremely difficult though, try anomaly first.

>>713433972
We all say that til you enter a zone with a group
Of bandits spawning three feet from you.

>>713400191 (OP)
Radiophobia 3 > any other STALKER modpack

Niggers comparing GAMMA to MISERY have never played both because GAMMA is piss easy in comparison

>>713434208
I finished it recently, including that shitty gold sphere side quest. it adds absolutely NOTHING worthwhile over base SoC.

>>713434184
this is why I start the game with 3 lives and a life granter after 5 days. this way it stays tense and I can't blame the game for bullshit deaths

>>713434284
it improves the shitty vanilla SHoC tenfold in every way.

>>713434237
I enjoyed playing Misery very much back then, I'm sorry

>>713434449
No. It adds a couple really fucking boring side quests, some guns, and some mediocre artifact progression shit. If I want any of those three, I can play OP 2.2. which does all of it and in a more fun way. For SoC, I felt it was not in any way a better experience. Would never recommend to a first-timer over the vanilla game.

>>713434237
Gamma is a direct descendant of Misery.

>>713434517
Why be sorry? I enjoyed MISERY too, just not a fan of having shitty heavy artifacts radiate your ass and those metal containers weighting half my inventory too, but aside from that I had a good experience

>>713400191 (OP)
>combine all three
No you fool, it only combines the maps, the rest plays like Steam early access survival slop

>>713434616
Well i never said it should be the way to go for newfags but i just enjoy it much more than the base game if only because of the gunplay and more guns to play with, also the ''unlocked'' NPCs AI freeroam from CoP makes it even better.

>>713419052
CS is fine when it isn't broken, unfortunately the game is a broken mess a lot of the time even with unofficial patches.

>>713434682
Just saying you enjoyed Misery still makes some people reeeeee uncontrollably even today and it's more than a decade old at this point

>>713434412
Nah that's cheating. after all the dangerous missions you survived, nothing feels more significant than losing your 300 hours save to a bandit who got lucky.

I literally just turned off my PC, and didst turn it on for a couple of days. I sat on the toilet, thinking about life and death. It's great. no gaming experience can ever come close it.

>>713432003
"sucking Ukrainian cock" AKA showing compassion for having their country invaded by a warmongering tyrannical manlet with delusions of grandeur.

>>713429536
That sounds dumb because the games aren't balanced around you having an inaccurate means of aiming. I've seen complaints from people who used controllers to play Stalker 2. They all mope and whine about bullet sponges, because they don't have the ability to aim for the head.

>>713434979
Czechia was invaded?

>>713435034
To be fair though: SC2's damage system was an absolute shitshow, and it really needs mods to feel anywhere near good. Locational damage rewarding headshots is a tried and true formula, but when a hoodie-wearing bandit can tank three anti-material rifle to the chest with barely a flinch, you know you've gone too far.

Plus I think most of the damage sponge complaints came rather specifically from the way the game very clumsily introduces the monolith forces which are absurdly well armored, pushing you to engage them at a point where your weapons aren't really up to the task yet because of that whole emergency broadcast thing.
Not to mention, the really rather broken asymmetrical damage-range adjustment, that can very easily make you think the enemies are damage sponges when in reality, it's just that you are using weapons not suitable for that range, it's just that the range penalty does not apply to enemies using the same gun.

There was a LOT wrong with SC2's vanilla shooting, now that I think about it. It wasn't fundamentally bad, but the numbers were absolutely all over the place and damage-sponge feeling was often a pretty big problem.

>>713434957
the problem with one life is that you can not afford to take any risks, even in exos. you will never go into anomaly fields, you will never travel at night, you will never go on risky missions. also you'll eventually die to some bug. I find it boring to play super safe. the 3 lives allow you to play normally and by the time you get to midgame, you only have one left, with a few days till you get a life from the granter. lategame also got rpg bandits and monolith and not even nosorogs will save you from them

>>713435034
At launch hit reg and the damage system was so broken that people were on here coming up with theories that the scripted mutant encounters auto calculated monster health based on how much ammo the player had in their inventory.

>>713435546
>it's just that you are using weapons not suitable for that range, it's just that the range penalty does not apply to enemies using the same gun.

This was the most frustrating part of the game, being forced to headhunt with the best rifle i could find at all times, while the enemy would be landing multiple hits per burst from long range with mp5's that would seemingly do full damage.

>>713436126
The hit reg and damage systems weren't really broken in my experience, but it was very poorly balanced. Some mutants did have an unnecessary amount of health, and most importantly, the gap between head-shots and anything else was absurdly inflated, to a point where you could legitimately think torso hits aren't actually doing any damage at all. Combined with the game's ammo type system not really being explained, and gear progression not always matching with enemy types if you stuck to the main story structure, it made people think it's legitimately broken, when in reality, all it took to fix is adjust one or two numbers and perhaps, slightly tweak the inventory of one or two merchants.

Both of which were actually done by mods like 3-4 days after release.

>>713436442
Yeah, it was bullshit. I remember taking on that cursed Monolith defense fight in the lesser zone, which was like a perfect showcase of every single problem of Stalker 2: enemies literally sniping you with shotguns, enemies having armor at a point where none of the venders would reliably hold sufficiently strong AP ammo, and of course, an insane number of different ways to get a progression-killing bugs.

Absolute shitshow of an encounter, god-awful design, god awful execution, just... miserable.

Overall I like the game but man, was it rough and bullshit sometimes.

>>713420440
Far as I know, GAMMA isn't even a mod in itself. It's just a collection of them put into a single installer. It's also so modular and tweakable that anyone can basically tailor it to their needs

>>713421739
>dad's
"dads", because you're talking about more than one

>>713422071
Why act like story only influences the writing? Story determines the content. Anomaly is a sandbox that takes all levels from the originals. However, it doesn't port over the actual content. None of the scripting, none of the unique quests that are actually designed to fit with the overall game and its story. The storming of Pripyat in SoC is a story event, but it's also a gameplay segment with voice acting and scripts which you won't find in Anomaly. Across all the games you have content which doesn't exist in Anomaly. Anomaly is a sandbox, and that, in itself, is not a replacement for the trilogy

>>713438294
story is not equal to setting and lore
which are a thousand times better than the story
don't get me wrong, the stories were entertaining that's just not the greatest quality in those games, far from it

>>713438624
What I mean is that the content of the game is unique to each STALKER. Playing Anomaly is not the same as playing SoC, just like playing SoC isn't the same as playing CS. They're different games. Saying story is the only thing that Anomaly does away with is reductive as hell because all the handcrafted content is also missing. Playing through Anomaly's Zaton is obviously not the same experience as doing it in CoP

>>713400191 (OP)
You can check it out it's free and installation isn't that complex. I've played original Stalker games when they came out and Gamma and it's not the quite the same but Gork tries to preserve and improve certain element from the base game while bringing new ones at the same time. It's not foe everyone but I liked it.

In essence GAMA is an open world tactical FPS in the world of Stalker. With more complex resource and inventory management. If it sounds like something you would like than go ahead.

>>713438624
>story is not equal to setting and lore
That is not actually true. A story is a partial (or incomplete) recounting of events that are communicated by the fiction. Lore, settings etc... are all part of the story of the game.

What you might be thinking of is PLOT. Which is the chronology of events taking place over the story, and it does not include things like lore or world-building unless those are explicitly displayed as part of the game's chronology (e.g. if the story takes time to show a dragon attack that took place 100 years before the actual story, through a cutscene or a gameplay segment - it's part of the plot, but if it's something you find depicted on a fresco or in a book or item description, it's not part of the plot).

So shit like content of some documents you can pick up and read in the world are part of the story, but not necessarily part of the plot.
Same goes for shit that isn't verbalized. Exploring X11 was absolutely a core part of Stalkers story, even though it was entirely player driven.

The actual WRITING in Stalker has actually never been good, and neither was the plot itself, but the bulk of the story was told through environments and setpieces, which may not be WRITING, but it definitely IS STORYTELLING. It's an integral component of the story.

>>713429689
It's all meaningless without the stalker database/ranking anyway.

I even have magazine redux enabled, people whining on GAMMA should go play stalker for normies, aka Metro

>>713432986
>can't figure out how mod dependencies work
I'm sorry, anon. GAMMA has like 6 different systems tied to how they get their ballistics to work. You can't just tear everything out, lmao

>>713439358
>You can check it out it's free and installation isn't that complex.
Installing gamma isn't complex, but shifting through the hundreds upon hundreds of options to disable the most clearly bullshit ones is something that requires you to have a lot of experience with the games, and some understanding of it's modding.

Gamma comes with some of the worst default settings I've ever seen - like the fucking texture/foliage that literally removes all leafs from the game, turning it into a hideous grey and brown sludge and removing all of the iconic atmosphere that used to be a default option: that shit is awful and will give you an experience in many ways contrary to what stalker is known for, and it's not by any means intuitive to find where it is and how to disable it.

Gamma is impressively flexible, and almost every element can be tweaked, which is great. But the default options are often completely insane and if you don't know that, and don't know much about Stalker mods in general, you are stuck with that shit, and you'll probably have a miserable time with it.

>>713440534
wtf is "magazine redux"

>>713440662
it sends you national geographic localized entirely in polish, biweekly, to your home address

>>713440662
Tarkovfication of stalker.

>>713400191 (OP)
Gamma adds WAY too much autistic shit for my liking, and I'd always recommend playing the games vanilla first but if you absolutely have to play modded from the get-go try base Anomaly and just add any compatible mods that sound appealing

>>713440662
there you go
>>713442221
>noo don't add immersive mods to the modpack
again, maybe metro is more up your alley.

>>713442221
>>713442483
Individual magazines you load ammo into? So literally like Zone of Alienation? Guess what is old is new again...

>>713442574
also ammo check animation, which is exactly the kind of jam I'm into

>>713442621
Does it have mag loading animations? If not then I'm not playing.
Imagine getting mogged by a 15 year old mod.

>>713442706
imagine being such a passive-aggressive cunt on a basket weaving forum

>>713442483
Keep playing a modpack that makes no sense, held together by pieces of tape. Fake fan

>>713442816
>says the guy who screenshot jewgle aislop

>>713400191 (OP)
All I really want in a stalker mod is more armor/weapon types, maybe new enemies, and a bigger environment to explore.

>>713437094
I know... That was autocorrect raping me...

>>713442221
ZoA was around before tarkov was a corn in nikita's fucking turd, zoom zoom

>>713442827
>>713442881
>buzzwords
have a (You)

>>713442827
>Fake fan
Yeeaaah, not like us based TRVE fans

>>713443067
More quests too.

>>713434917
yeah, I guess I see what you mean seeing retards sperg so much about GAMMA

>>713443793
the weird obsession some people had with the HARDCORE mechanics in Misery along with their dogshit RPG-lite additions to Stalker still sit in my mind rent free, honestly. It was really obnoxious back then. I say this as someone who genuinely enjoys GAMMA after some slight tweaks

>>713442827
>Fake fan

>>713443928
>I say this as someone who genuinely enjoys GAMMA after some slight tweaks
uh oh, we've got a Fake fan over here

This is the worst stalker thread I have ever seen on this site.
No wonder the general is just dogshit memes reposted over and over.

>>713444809
Rabid Anomaly/GAMMA haters do be like that.
Back when the latter started gaining a lot of traction through some youtuber, I used to go to their general and simply talk favorably about GAMMA, checked in half an hour later to 10-20 seething replies every time.

>>713444809
gamma derangement syndrome strikes again

>>713444809
This isn't a stalker thread this is a gamma thread.

>>713446156
>NOOO GAMMA IS NOT STALKER BECAUSE I WANT MY IMMERSION TO BE ARCADY AS FUCK

>>713446405
Where's the immersion in gamma where a bandit can OS you a mile away with a broken gun barrel

>>713444809
Gamma became massively popular and buckbroke all the pretentious twats calling themselves stalker "fans" on this website.
Notice how instead of replying "If you want to experience the story you should play the trilogy, anomaly is a freeplay modification" like any normal, well adjusted person would, they froth at their mouths with "DO NOT PLAY!!11 GAYMA GAYMA ANALMEME LOOOOOOL FAKE FAN". This should tell you everything about what kind of person you're dealing with.

>>713446518
what kind of non-argument is this? you either increase the weapon condition for NPCs or decrease the aim, there are a lot of ways to balance it out however you want

>>713446960
>bro just tweak it
Ah yes, the perfect stalker experience for a newcomer.

>>713447232
>newcomer
>GAMMA
>>713400841
>using strawmans to justify your irrational hate

>>713440534
ZoA already did that

>>713446405
It's just Analmeme with extra bells and whistles, shut the fuck up.

>>713448072
>It's just buzzword buzzword
Thanks for not saying anything

>>713446924
>"If you want to experience the story you should play the trilogy, anomaly is a freeplay modification" like any normal, well adjusted person would, they froth at their mouths with "DO NOT PLAY!!11 GAYMA GAYMA ANALMEME LOOOOOOL FAKE FAN"
Exactly, I don't understand their obsession with shutting down any discussion about it when no one is attacking the originals or whatever thing they prefer.

>>713448184
Nigger, anomaly with a million addons is still just anomaly. Cope and sneed.

>>713448927
>anomaly with a million addons is still just anomaly
Ok, and what's exactly wrong with that?

>>713431771
>>713431971
Can I not enable the CotZ patch with JSGME? I crashes upon level change

>>713449072
It's anomaly.

>>713449140
I see, that makes perfect sense

>>713447853
ZoA was kinda fun but remained a broken mess, not sure it was possible to finish a playthrough before your save gets fucked.

>>713433657
True. I tried some mods and they were terrible. Vanilla game is what you need.

>>713449131
jsgme is the intended way, works on my machine. did you install the second iwp standalone patch?

>>713400191 (OP)
freeplay mods are never good

>>713449828
NTA, but you can just let CotZ overwrite the english translation patch in JSGME right?

>>713449828
Nevermind, missed the new game required part like the stupid nigger I am

I hate analmeme. Stalker for me was all about the /x/ component, and Gamma strips it from that to fully focus on /k/.

>>713451527
funny think about turning the game into /k/ is that there is barely anything to shoot at. >YEAH BRO LET'S ADD THOUSANDS OF WEAPONS MODIFICATIONS TO SHOOT AT FLESHES AND BOARS MOVING AT 2 MPH AND AI THAT GETS STUCK ON WALLS
lmao

my god it's greasy in here, feels good to never interact with goyma/analmeme secondaries and just enjoy vanilla+ experiences.

>>713451527
I like /k/ stuff, I kinda liked tarkov, I can understand why you would want to mix tarkov with stalker and I like anomaly for what it is but I mostly agree, I can understand the appeal of anomaly but most of the mods just tend to focus around fiddling with your inventory instead of the cool stuff from tarkov like the crazy gun customisation, so you get all the tedium with little to none of the benefits

Obviously though anomaly is a great platform for mods, I just wish more of them focused on the anomalies/mutants and not stupid shit like advanced gun durability.

>>713447697
you don't know what a strawman arguement is, do you child?

just get good you know? anomaly doesn't delete anything from the original games lol

>>713400191 (OP)
Isnt Gamma just a sandbox? I dont think it includes the original trilogy stories or quests

>>713451527
In my experience it's mostly story mods that can get this right and really make the zone feel like a difficult place to understand.

>>713455263
>Isnt Gamma just a sandbox?
Yes. OP is most likely a falseflag, because this "should I play Gamma/Anomaly first" thing became a source of endless retarded shitstorms. Just look at this thread.

I'm not ruling out the possibility that OP is genuine (idiot), but most of the time people ask this question, it's just an excuse for another shitshow thread about nothing.

>>713400191 (OP)
Yes but only after beating the base games.

>>713422071
pretty much
faggots who worship SHoC now X years later and NPC repeat how the story is so great.... have never even heard of it pre-Analmeme and GOYMMA, 2022 event times.
No one praised STALKER for their amazing storylines.
Lore, The Zone, Characters.. those are the things that matter the most and are discussed the most, the storylines in the OG trilogy are just a big excuse to set the game there.
CoP was closest with its side quests to something good story wise, Clear Sky was actually interesting despite what e-celeb faggots spout nowadays but SHoC was just kinda .. there

Is there any Anomaly modpacks that aren't some super autistic, retarded, up it's own ass and with millions of junk items that serve literally no purpose?

>>713428369
if you'd have said CoC at least then you could get away with it i guess but this is just straight out retarded lol

>>713400191 (OP)
>join discord to download
>now create folders on your root drive
>now turn off your antivirus
I'm good

>>713458958
No, thats literally what Anomaly is. Play SGM or AMK.

>>713458958
No, I think literally your only option is IWP. It has the updated engine and it isn't based on misery.

>>713457085
>Yes. OP is most likely a falseflag
He tried the exact same question on /sg/ to fish for (You)'s and got ignored.

At this rate, when the fuck (if ever) will Stalker 2 multiplayer and DLCs release? They haven't said shit about them so far.

>>713418145
>i dont get why GAMMA got so popular
GAMMA is the logical endpoint of its miseryshit origins, mindless "muh immershun" tedium designed to cater to Tarkov fans who were too shit to play actual Tarkov.
As another Anon said it's designed for people who absolutely love the thrill of Ironman mode and to be fair fighting mutants at night without NVG is kino.
I just stick to tweaked Analmeme where the recipe/repair grind isn't as torturous and the mutants not completely fucking silent. I've been oneshot by boars in the hobo phase too many times.

>>713433657
lmao sounds like you got owned in anomaly

>>713433214
>webm
kek

>>713460808
It doesn't have to be a root drive same as your system. You can install it on a separate drive. I've also installed it with BitDefender on and had no problems.

>>713430358
>and the vast majority of Gamma/Anomaly players all love and always pushed the original trilogy first

>People acting surprised about brainlets getting filtered by MISERY when it wasn't even that hard
>When this board was responsible for LE PREPARE TO DIE XDDD GAME HARD for Dark Souls 1, to the point the PC port was called prepare to die edition
/v/ has always been a bunch of brainlet casuals larping

>>713464347
It's true, do you have some other imaginary boogeyman's takes do get mad at?

>>713464975
more than half of players who use GAMMA/Anomaly have never tried the OG games with possible exception being SHoC but right after getting btfo'd by the bandits at the car park they uninstalled the game.

>>713400191 (OP)
Gamma is a heavily modified and curated experience. It is at best considered a free-play mod that combines all the game maps.

It crunches in a very autistic loot treadmill that you either need to enjoy enough to keep or extensively configure the fuck out of.

>>713465163
>more than half of players who use GAMMA/Anomaly have never tried the OG games

Statistic taken straight out of your schizo ass when most posts itt contradicts it, you're just looking for things to get mad at, admit it.

>>713465163
You would kick scream and shit your pants if you played AMK if you're bad enough to think 3 bandits vs a shotgun at close range is hard especially in vanilla.

>>713465163
fishing all day..
it's time to stop now anon don't you think?

>>713465387
Nta but are you fucking retarded? Anomaly and GAMMA got popular in the first place due to secondaries who have never played the games finding about it through social media and other shit. You can find hundreds of videos on youtube titled "THE BEST GAME YOU'VE NEVER PLAYED AND ITS FREE" with hundred or millions views.

>>713466265
So fucking what stupid mongoloid? Does it also apply to every posters itt who also happen to like Gamma when most if not all of them recommended to give the og trilogy a try first? Go fuck yourself if the mere thought of discussing a game you don't like on /v/ makes you shit yourself in terror you deranged faggot.

>>713465387
>>713465572
>>713465890
hi OperatorFagski

>>713466524
Is that one of the voices in your head?

>>713466524
Is this some tripfag that verbally molested you or something?

>>713466694
>>713467127
its the guy who popularized Analmeme and GOYMMA with those tacticool thumbnails in his videos and titles, see>>713466265

>>713467274
And he's personally stalking you or something?

>>713467274
I've never once seen one of these videos in my recs, a million views was impressive in 2010, now? lol

>>713400191 (OP)
Fuck you.

>>713467339
newfag

>>713467589
retard he made those videos in 2019-2023 thats the largest influx of newfag tourists into STALKER series as a whole

>>713469091
Oh no a bunch of retarded faggots are playing a mod of my favorite video game!
Anyways I wonder if I want pizza or if I want to make chili for dinner tonight.

>>713467589
a million views is a lot for stalker. You think the game is fucking roblox? Dumb fucking NIGGER.

>>713469316
Nooo not my heckin sekrit club!
What are you afraid the facebook dads are going to come in and ruin Stalker?
The ukie devs that fled and spent more time posting about the war in the country they moved to instead of even implementing basic A-Life features already did that.
Why are you so angry?

Stalker gammma is fucking gay and full of faggot tarkov shit like dog shit running/ walking sound, retarded breathing sfx and just sucks cock you can use base anomaly but using gama is retarced

>>713452610
/k/ommando here, tarkov is definitely not /k/ imo. Tarkov has fucking silly ballistics and damage systems, and the gun customization doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Sure it has a lot of guns and attachments but I'd argue that alone doesn't make it /k/. They also don't have the number one weapon I'd assume would be used in that scenario, the G3. Why eastern Europe has FALs but not G3s who knows. Hell Let Loose, the Red Orchestra/ Rising Storm series, Squad, Insurgency, and Arma are truly /k/. STALKER also fits in because while not technically impressive on the weapons they all make sense, modifications are realistic and meaningful, and it's a part of /k/ history at this point. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk

>>713400191 (OP)
STOP
Don't fucking start with gamma. This is coming from someone who loves gamma, play the original trilogy first. Not only are you setting yourself up for a miserable experience with ZERO experience in the games, but you're missing out on a good 90% of the lore and shit that makes STALKER... STALKER.
It's like going straight into a 400 mod minecraft modpack without touching vanilla. You're going to be confused, die, and rage quit.

>>713400191 (OP)
10/10 bait nice one OP