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What happened to the cyberpunk genre?

>>713402435 (OP)
real life became more dystopian.

also industrial music is not cool anymore, despite the fact it's the only genre of music that actually makes sense to make anymore since all modern music is just lgbt industrial pop.

>>713402435 (OP)
Outside of Cyberpunk 2099 and the like three Shadow Run games, what other cyberpunk games are there? AND are there any turn-based jrpgs in this genre?

>>713402435 (OP)
1985 was 40 years ago. The future happened

>>713402635
the SMT have a lot of cyberpunk influences, but I can't think of personally a good JRPG you'd want to play that's close to cyberpunk.

>>713402523
>also industrial music is not cool anymore
Talk about being out of touch dude.
https://files.catbox.moe/drm2hy.webm

>>713402635
Saga Frontier

>>713402435 (OP)
Cyberpunk was a cool idea when talking computers and megacops that control your life were just a hazy dream. Not so cool when it's a reality you live in.

>>713402745
>out of touch
I mean i'm in a industrial rock/metal band, so I think i'd know.

Zoomers don't listen to it, there are only 2-3 new bands pushing the scene right now globally.
We just released our first album within the last year.
So the fuck you want to say.

>>713402435 (OP)
It became post-cyberpunk, then from there it broke up further into a bunch of mostly soc-jus focused subgenres.

It went from forgotten niche thing to the big leagues.

>>713402435 (OP)
It’s retrofurturism now. Regardless, I’ve always been more interested in the transhumanist sub genre.

Now some zoomer is going to read this and try really hard to make an awful tranny post

>>713402435 (OP)
There's absolutely nothing to feel like that's the trajectory right now. Neither in technology nor our attitudes towards it.

>>713402635
deus ex and system shock

>>713402882
>try to search for cyberpunk
>all search results are about 2077
This fucking game ruined an entire genre

>>713402712


Wow that was a long time ago

An altered carbon or ghost in the shell game would sell

>>713403724
retards that have no clue how to use a search engine are why everything is "ai assistants" now.

>>713403447
System Shock isn’t Cyberpunk, just generic scifi

>>713402523
real life is dystopian and it doesn't even look fucking cool

>>713403984
are you fucking sure about that statement anon? you don't want to think about that just a little longer?

>>713403958
>>713403984
Retards

>>713402523
What does industrial music have to do with cyberpunk?

>>713403984
please elaborate. it could be entertaining.

This genre predates the dumb third worlders lurking this board. There’s no interesting dicussion to be had about cyberpunk games. Read some good scifi books instead.

>>713402435 (OP)
a bit tired of
>big corpo bad we r resistance
>human augmentations bad!
>are le robots/android equals!?
>racism bad...but robots!
>dude future drugs lmao
Cyber"punk" is tired and out of material

>>713402435 (OP)
It's not punk anymore. It's just cyber. Like futurism. Or something else with the meaning "probably will happen in next 20 years"
Robocop is more cyberpunk, than modern cyberpunk. Or Judge Dredd.

>>713402435 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O7VTw1E3b4

>>713404115
There’s nothing to expand on, there’s nothing in it that makes it Cyberpunk, unless you also consider everything from Alien to Star Trek to be Cyberpunk.

>>713402858
>soc-jus
lol why not say SJW? is this more leftist language manipulation?

I’ve never played System Shock so I don’t know if that anon is a retard, but if it isn’t about opposing mega corporations in a dystopian futuristic environment it is not cyberpunk.

Ghost in the shell is not cyberpunk either. Cyberpunk is a sub genre of sci fi that is very niche.

>>713404231
>there’s nothing in it that makes it Cyberpunk
but there is.
>consider everything from Alien to Star Trek to be Cyberpunk.
i do not.

>>713404353
>if it isn’t about opposing mega corporations in a dystopian futuristic environment it is not cyberpunk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl9eHjjjFM4

>>713404353
>but if it isn’t about opposing mega corporations in a dystopian futuristic environment it is not cyberpunk.
that's an incredibly narrow definition for something that has always actually just been about exploring hypotheticals in a futuristic world with technology as a relevant aspect

>>713404353
An AI takes over a space station and you fight robots/zombies.

>>713404421
Then that anon is in fact a retard and we should be making fun of him.

>>713404231
System Shock is as classically cyberpunk as it gets. SS2 kind of loses a lot of the Cyberpunk trappings in favor of a more traditional sci-fi horror.

>>713404565
The two games are close to identical

>>713404487
why anon?

>>713402435 (OP)
A certain game took the name for itself and shat all over the genre.

The Matrix is cyberpunk btw

>>713402435 (OP)
>>713402882
>>713403724
>discover cyberpunk genre in highschool
>obsessed for years
>see first teaser for 2077
>hyped as fuck
>wait years
>interest dwindles
>new trailer drops
>it's fps shit with Keanu meme shoved in
>never play the game
>interest in cyberpunk completely obliterated

>>713402635
It's a fun isometric exploration shooter and it has online co-op

>>713404173
A lot of cyberpunk breaks your rules, like Syndicate and Armored Core.

>>713404756
The real Matrix world or the simulation?

>>713404645
It’s irrelevant why because it has no bearing on how the game works after that cutscene

>>713404608
>a hacker gets arrested by a corporation and blackmailed into doing their dirty work
>a guy joins the military and shit hits the fan on his ship
man, youre right. theyre exactly the same.

we need a new sci-fi genre

>>713404830
Both

>>713404909
The games are the exact same. The background stories aren’t, but they don’t have any bearing on how the game works

>>713404801
Thanks I didn't remember the name of that game, I thought it looked cool but people considered it underwhelming.

>>713404912
We need to explore solar punk because we have the technology now

>>713404848
How so? You literally dive into cyberspace.

>>713404959
>The background stories aren’t
oh so they are different now. because cyberpunk is a literary genre and not a gameplay genre.

>>713404769
the first trailer was so good, sadly the tone completely shifted for the actual game

>>713402435 (OP)
> What happened to the cyberpunk genre?
It has become the new reality. And people quickly tire of reality.

>>713402435 (OP)
I must replay Deus Ex (2000)

>>713402435 (OP)
Play mirrors edge

>>713402635
Final fantasy 7 is cyberpunk for like the first disc

>>713405031
And a book would not be considered Cyberpunk if all that was Cyberpunk about it was the prologue

Do you consider SMB 1/2/3 to be in different genres because the background of one is somewhat post apocalyptic, one is a dream, and one is a stage play?

>>713404984
I don't know if it's that simple.
Solarpunk isn't exactly a new genre, it's pretty much just 90's environmentalism with the word "punk" added to it.
The new Gundam show feels weirdly fresh to me, like it's potentially the beginnings of a new genre with its weird style choices.

>>713405402
olympic level mental gymnastics. i was right. your elaboration was entertaining.

>>713402435 (OP)
Hopefully dead and buried because it's a stupid genre with a gaudy aesthetic.

>>713405489
solarpunk is 90s environmentalism for poor 3rd worlder types recycling garbage i.e. punks.

>>713405489
The new gundam? As in Gcucks? Anon, it’s a meta commentary on UC autists with marvel tier multiverse fuckert. You are going to be very disappointed by next weeks episode if you were expecting something different.

>>713402435 (OP)
Essentially, the genre was very short lived among the writers who first coined it. It was rapidly replaced with Post-Cyberpunk, the key difference between the genres being how they pose technology. Cyberpunk typically posits technology as negative in of itself. Post-Cyberpunk posits technology as neutral, and humans are the X factor which make it positive or negative.
What's happened since then is that the genre has fallen victim to Flanderisation/Imitation. Most "Cyberpunk" now just carries the aesthetic without the substance.
Read Gibson, and then read Bruce Sterling. You'll feel the difference better than I could explain it.
>https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PostCyberpunk

DISCARD DOOMERISM. EMBRACE SOLARPUNK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqJJktxCY9U

>>713405671
I am a big fan of Gundam and I am aware of what GQuuuuuuX is. I think it's a bit more fresh and interesting than you're giving it credit.
Multiverse stuff has been overdone by Marvel, but I think there is something to GQ's focus on psychic characters and psychic phenomenon as justification for its multiverse.
We've had psychics in Gundam since it began, but with its meta commentary/multiverse pretext and the way the show interacts psychically with the audience, it might be worth calling it a new genre
"esper-punk" "mentalpunk" etc.

>>713406065
This made me nauseous and wishing for the Imperial Guard to disembark on this shitty world and claim it for the Imperium of Man.

>>713406321
Yea there is something to the idea that Nyaan Machu, and Chalia are "punks" against every oldtype system they encounter, just by virtue of being psychics.
Even the literal gang of punks aren't punk enough for Machu.
Shuuji is so punk he isn't even obeying the laws of reality, teleports in to paint graffiti and sniff girls, then fucks off to do whatever elder god shit he's on.
Gundam has done a lot of this before, but it feels extra punk with the FLCL director

>>713406630
Gross!

>>713402435 (OP)
CDPR destroyed it with its nvidia demo game

>>713402745
Sauce on this? "Neon dreams" just pulls up a bunch of retrovaporwave fake 80s stuff

>>713406630
Time to take your anti-depressants, grandpa.

>>713402435 (OP)
We got Deus Ex. The genre was completed.

>>713402435 (OP)
It became the reality we live in but without the aspects that made it seem fun or exciting. The mundanity of that reality made it more obvious how gay and retarded it is

>>713407543
https://vimeo.com/302144329

this one

>>713402635
Dex, Technobabylon, Westwood's Blade Runner, Syndicate series.

Cyberpunk never existed. Prove me wrong.

It's a theme, not a genre

>>713410914
Agree to disagree/

Cyberpunk 2077 became the mainstream standard for the normalfag masses, no one dares to be creative in the cyberpunk genre now because it's an unavoidable influence. Kinda like how fantasy media all became the same during the LotR years.

>>713402435 (OP)
>What happened to the cyberpunk genre?