This is the one time a remake actually replaced the original, right? Never played either, just curious

No because they butchered the OST

>>713406897
This, and no papa nier
It's a different version and both are worth playing

>>713407590
>papa nier
Who gives a shit about the lolcowlized version

>>713406497 (OP)
It's a remaster not a remake. And they made Kaine's cock smaller so the original is better for that reason alone.

Yes

>>713406497 (OP)
They butchered the music.
-They removed most of the percussion
-Re-recorded the vocals and lost a lot of the energy in them
-Added heaps of annoying Irish flute instrument making it sound like Celine Dion wrote the music

Gameplay/performance wise, it's superior but man, the music is so important in Nier games.

>>713406497 (OP)
>Nearly 100% of remakes/remasters are better

>Morons still meme-ing for the mega LMFAOZZZZ saying that remakes are not better

????

>>713406897
>>713409180
Nigga. You just told on yourself to having never played the game if you think the OST was worse.

>>713406497 (OP)
The original Replicant is still fine to play. No need for Gestalt.

So replicant and gestalt are 2 different games?

>>713406497 (OP)
i like original papa nier ps3 version better

>>713409842
nta but the OST is absolutely inferior to the original

I hate yoko ono's transparent letterboxing

>>713410285
same game different protag

>>713406497 (OP)
Pretty much yeah. Tactics Ogre is another one.

>>713408713
It's a complete remake with a significant amount of new content.

I actually think the combat is better in the original

>>713412402
it's mostly content that was cut because papa nier

>>713412902
I'm assuming you meant to reply to >>713412296

>>713413018
yes i did sorry about that

>>713409180
>>713406897
today I will remind them

>>713406497 (OP)
rape 2b

Where is the new fucking game. Nigger took 7 years after Automata to release a fucking gacha game. Where. The. Fuck. Is. The. New. Game.

>>713418151
>Nier 3 is a shitty gacha game that is unplayable now
>SINoALICE shut down Jan 2024
>404 Game Re:set already shut down [Not DrakeNier but a Yoko Taro paycheck regardless]
>Automata anime took up time
>had another anime I'm only just hearing about now called "KamiErabi God.app" that ended Dec 2024
>Voice of Cards happened, still haven't played any of them personally
>spent however long on the FF14 content
need this man to get back directing a game with a fucking controller

>>713418151
Do you really need a new game? Just go play the Drakengard trilogy. Drakengard 2 combat is fucking amazing for a 2005 PS2 musou.

>>713406497 (OP)
no, but it is still a valuable remake for the grimoire Nier content that was actually adapted into the game like the Seafront content in the 2nd half and ending E. thankfully we now have both Replicant and Gestalt available in the west so it is mostly down to the player to choose which version of the protagonist resonates with them the most. the OST in Replicant is generally a downgrade however.

PS3 replicant is still worth a play just to hear Weiss get voiced by Angelus

>>713406497 (OP)

>>713406497 (OP)
Not quite.
Contrary to what some Amerimutts think, this is essentially an ENHANCED version of THE original, Japan-only Nier Replicant.

The "Papa" version, Gestalt, was a Microsoft-mandated Westoid localization version, that ruined a shitton of content.

And don't listen to the OST whiners. It is completely fine, and often BETTER than the 2010 version's 5 second loops.

It was shit. Taro said in an interview he hates repeating things and quickly drops games when the loop gets old but then has the balls to make his player go through the same shit fucking five times for a couple of seconds of added lines. And then his autistic mongoloid fans treat the unfinished, lazyss shovelware result like something larger than life. I hate this hack and his meme games

>>713406497 (OP)
Pretty much, it is the definitive version.

I still like OG Nier with Papa better, Replicant is kinda gay

>>713418151
Please look forward to TGS!

>>713422858
>this
>less gay than the handsome chad wearing winter clothing
you are a fucking faggot

it's been too long since i played either so I can't comment much on them (totally forget they redid the music) but having the mermaid storyline in the game was nice, but I really miss papa nier.

anyways as far as remakes that replaced the original, I'd also say kirby superstar ultra is just better than the snes version.

>>713406497 (OP)
Yes.

>try to find out what changes papa nier makes and why people love it so much
>literally the exact same script. This old grizzled fuck is having the same emotional freakouts as brother nier
Not convinced

>>713406497 (OP)
it sure doesn't
worse ost, worse models and worse atmosphere
but there have been many remakes that replaced the original before so this is confirmed bait

>>713424760
>worse ost, worse models and worse atmosphere
wrong, wrong, and wrong

>>713424810
yeah, maybe if you're a coomer it's better I guess

>>713412402
It isn't better, but it is less boring because the Automata combat style is anti-fun. Not that it matters, either way you're probably just holding down the Lance spell button anyway.

>>713409842
It is you fucking retard.

>>713424843
I will say that Emil looks better in the original but everyone else looks worse.

>>713413415
>snow in summer
>new version is much better
And closed, you went full retarded from the very beginning.

>>713425074
That extra minute makes it better. Only the super soulless disagree.

>>713425197
>add generic orchestra shit
>omg so much better
It’s your kind who ruins everything.

>>713418151
Reincarnation was Nier 3 but you can't play it now

>>713424685
it's pretty funny to see a 50 year old dude use lines made for a 14 year old kid the whole papa nier fandom exists purely because it's the only one we got in the west but it's really fucking awful because it's incredibly obvious this game was not designed for an old man at all

>>713425274
It's not generic at all you tasteless pleb, it just enriches the already good song. Obviously the original is good too but it tapers off instead of climbing to the highs of the new version.
https://youtu.be/nR63SLyn4KE?t=337 Timestamped part here is why it's so good. Feel that climb? Absolute kino, sounds a lot better in-game while you're playing too.

I get the appeal of the older songs sounding a bit less bland at a glance but you don't notice it while playing.

>>713424685
it's most the voice acting since Jamieson Price did a really good job. that and as someone with a sister, I wouldn't do any of this shit for her, so I don't find it #relatable, but I could see a single dad doing it for his daughter.

No? The original had the pretty boy. It was the American one with Papa Nier. Too bad they didn't keep that since Papa Nier works better for the story.

just watch this https://youtu.be/P8XTbluLDyE
if you feel the soul play this one
if you don't play the remake

the magic of the original was how great it was made with absolutely nothing, worst development hell possible and yet it is a masterpiece
the remake is just too clean and lazy it didn't really add anything beside a cleanup
fans wanted more gameplay like playing emile/kaine etc and changes for the boring and repetitive parts

>>713425451
Isn't Nier like 20 something?

>>713425697
It's funny that the original still looks bad to me. I never played it back then because of that, the remake looked great though and I loved it.

>>713425608
>playing in english

The remastered music is better

t. Played replicant first therefore my opinion is as biased as the ones that played gestalt first

>>713426010
none can argue with this logic

> https://youtu.be/cbKHndwf0js
>this will sell our game

>>713426268
in japan that is probably true

>>713425530
What dogshit audio quality in that video.
Not that other anon, but I too much prefer the original's OST. The remake's OST is incredible as a standalone and is even still good in the game. The strings and brass added to songs is fucking awful most of the time IMO.

The original Snow in Summer is more subdued and there is more space for silence. Nier is not one some classic heroic last stand to protect his sister, something where the orchestral additions would fit. The world is fucked. They're scavenging for scraps of food and his sister isn't doing well already. He's malnourished himself. The absence of more sound gives more space for the hollow drums ring out more, making them sound more menacing and oppressive. Nier is fighting in his sorry state to protect his sister to the very last. It's hopeless. He'll give her seconds maybe. Or by some miracle, she might escape for a while. And even then, she'll likely starve to death soon, before even the shades find her.
There's no hope. The original Snow in Summer feels more in tune with that. Yet Nier fights to protect her anyway. Him doing so despite how hopeless it is, that's what makes the scene work for me.
Another offender is Grandma. The strings just seem to patronizingly say "now feel sad!", when the original without them already did that just fine. Have a little faith in the player. I can come to my own conclusions and feel what I feel.

The remake OST is certainly good. I'm fond of the remake version of Gods Bound by Rules. Just many of the tracks feel like they don't fit the game aswell as the originals do.

>>713407932
Parent/child story has more impact than Alas, My Imouto episode #57,398.

>>713418151
It's been so long I'm even starting to miss the gacha game

>>713426010
I'm with you. The new OST is fine. Anybody defending the old one very aggressively just has a baby duck syndrome.

The singer has improved a lot during those ten years and it shows in the new OST. Of course it all comes down to preference in the end, but if you don't even recognize the flaws in the original version, you're just being purposefully obtuse.

>>713425757

>>713418151
this

>>713409842
Remake ost mogs the OG, you guys are fake ass fans.

>>713425074
Yikes what a shit take fagnon.

Is Replicant worth it for someone who only played and enjoyed Automata and Drakengard 3?

>>713431897
urd

>>713406497 (OP)
99% of the remakes do. Exceptions are FFVII, RE2R and RE3R.

Looks better, runs better, has the actual ending instead of having to read it online. OST is a mixed bag, some improvements, some flaws.

>>713425757
part 1 he's 14/16 part 2 he's 18/20

>>713406497 (OP)
Yes, and I like this game more than Automata, even.

>>713431932
and persona 3, and mafia, and yakuza 1 & 2, and...

>>713431897
If you don't mind Replicant mogging Automata hard.

>>713406897
This. The OST is what put NieR on the radar and they fucking butchered it. Just couldn't leave well enough alone.

>>713432861
The OST sucked in the first place.

>>713429392
I like the early Nier concept art. It's obviously what he circled back to for Automata.

>>713432861
>is what put NieR on the radar
what fucking radar, it sold like shit

>>713433201
It was still the most notable and talked-about thing regarding the game.

>>713432861
I've only played the new one and the music was the best I ever heard in a game, so they didn't mess it up that bad.

Gave up on this game. Every boss is a damage sponge.

>>713433332
>that close to quints
God damn. I'd kms

Papa Nier doesn't make sense storywise. It ruins the timeskip, Nier's relationship with Kaine, the twins, Emil, etc. If you disagree you are 100% an ironic weeb and should leave. Go play Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii because Majima is le random and funny xDDD.

>>713433924
I agree

>>713433282
They're both good. The original is much simpler, but it has a lot more sharp inhales by the singer and she isn't using her voice to the fullest potential.

>>713406497 (OP)
>This is the one time a remake actually replaced the original
Warcraft reforged forcibly replaced Warcraft 3.

>>713431897
>should I play the best game in a series I like