Thread 713406990

this can't possibly be legal

miggers btfo. stop being a fucking commie and contribute to society

>>713406990 (OP)
Nintendr0n3s deserve it

>go to a restaurant
>bring your own food
>NOOOOO YOU CANT KICK ME OUT
zero sympathy

>>713406990 (OP)
>buy switch
>agree to terms of use
>break agreement
>OH NOOOOOOOOO HOW COULD THEY BAN ME FROM USING THEIR PRODUCT

I can't tell if these are bait posts or you people are just retarded anymore

That dude brought another switch 2.

>>713406990 (OP)
legal in the us but not in the eu.
nintendo acts accordingly.
in the eu they cant bann your console and wont.
they might ban you from online play but thats about it.
in the us they can and will brick your console.

>>713406990 (OP)
>turn on product
>click agree without reading the ToS
>break ToS
>have access to product revoked
this is literally fascism...........

>>713406990 (OP)
What kind of dumb fucking gorilla nigger takes a modchipped nintendo console online? They've done this since the Wii.

>>713406990 (OP)
What is the migswitch even supposed to do?

I genuinely don't care if it is or not, if you're that fucking stupid to use a flashcart on a console before verifying it's 100% safe you deserve anything that happens

It's like that dumb faggot who live streamed games like Mario RPG remake a week before its official launch on ryujinx and got his ass sued. What the fuck are you expecting.

>>713407138
>go to restaurant
>bring your own food
>kicked out
>banned for life
>reservation money not refunded
>later get dartgunned in your own home
>wake up in a nondescript warehouse
>chef rapes you while you phase in and out of consciousness
>the waiters, now dressed as jesters, dance around you mockingly
>get thrown into an industrial shredder and ground into paste
>get served as burger meat

>>713406990 (OP)
Now you just need to reverse engineer that shit and do whatever.

>>713406990 (OP)
>this can't possibly be legal
defending corpos is cringe
so is fighting for issues that are not your own

>>713407193
>That dude brought another switch 2.
He bought 2. One for replacement and another as backup.
Nintendies fucking suck.

>>713407305
piracy without modding your switch.

>>713407041
>he's never once cracked software for other's use
>this his burger flipping job is a contribution to society
Actually cringe, kill yourself waggie

>>713407305
yer a migger harry

>>713407160
So if the Terms of Services says your kidney belongs to Nintendo it's somehow okay?
Bootlickers get the rope

>>713407608
>parasitic leech thinks his opinion matters
lol
lmao even

>>713407743
>parasitic leech
he roared calmly on 4chan

>>713406990 (OP)
You niggers are flat out TOLD "don't do X" from DAY ONE "or X will happen" and then you DO WHAT YOU WERE TOLD NOT TO DO and then CRY ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS.

WHY ARE YOU THIS MOTHERFUCKING STUPID!? YOU WERE TOLD THIS WOULD HAPPEN!

It's YOUR FAULT you basically BURNED your fucking investment.

>bought a Switch for the 1 game I wanted to play on it
>played like 2 other games on it
>then just pirated everything else on ryujinx

>gonna do the same for Switch 2 unless an emulator comes out before a game I'm willing to buy the console for comes out

Why bother pirating on the console itself? Feel like once CFW/playable roms are a thing the emulators follow shortly after.

>>713407743
Leach?
Between 04 and 09 I cracked maybe 500 pieces of software, ~2000 downloads each, $60 a pop.
Do the math.
I'm not a leach, I'm the antediluvian vampire that hunts the rich.

>>713407802
guess how much my portfolio is rn

>>713407846
>anon taking credit for shit he didn't do
day must end in Y

MIGA?

>>713407843
>Why bother pirating on the console itself?
fewer dumb emulation problems or issues like hyrule warriors stuttering whenever you turn the camera around too fast

>>713407846
I don't know what you faggots are arguing about, but I wanted to chime in and tell you that your post is the gayest LARP I've seen in years. I would bet money you own a fedora.

>living off the interest of your investments
vs
>living off the welfare of taxpayers
both let you play video games btw

>>713407909
It's not that hard, I learned on /g/, if you know a C language you can comprehend assembly, and in 2004-2009 it was mostly cdkey generators. You just download windbg and run the game.exe in it, breakpoint through to find the serial key algo and reverse engineer it, takes not even an hour most of the time.
I couldn't crack denuvo if you put a gun to my head, modern crackers are actually just state sponsored superhackers mostly from china

>>713406990 (OP)
They aren't bricking your console; they're just banning you from using online services which they aren't obligated to provide for you in the first place.

This whole thing is equivalent to a bunch of destructive brown protesters destroying and burning shit and looting whilst wearing balaclavas (which is illegal btw) and pissing, shitting and crying, screaming when the police wearing balaclavas to hide their faces beat, esphixiate, shoot, strangle and kill them and try to make THAT SPECIFICALLY against the law.

In short, you're a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

>>713407305
It's like a r4 flashcard but retarded because you need to reinsert to cycle games and you are supposed to use your own roms instead of internet roms but Nintendo will ban you anyway because they can now detect the flashcard apparently. It will also only work for switch 1 games.

Why am I seeing so many people complain that they can't mod their Switch 2? If you do this shit even to your phone you cant use your warranty and Apple can brick it if they want

>>713408434
It's not really modding it's a tool used to make dumps. Also if apple randomly bricked your phone you could sue them without question, but that's a phone and this is a shitty toy for children so nobody gives a shit either way.

>>713407160
You replied to this post and by that you accepted the terms of use that say I can rape you and your family daily for the eternity.

Rule one. of modding is always disconnect the device from the internet.
Rule two. Always expect the risk of getting a hardware level ban from online services.

>>713408535
Can I watch?
I like to watch.

>>713408605
Sure. It will be on youtube

>>713407847
if it is as much as you're gonna claim, you wouldn't be here

>>713407819
games should be free

>>713407160
>agree to terms of use
If I never read them I did not agree to them. Basically all terms of use are invalid and do not hold up in any court. They're just there to filter people who don't want to get into that argument

>>713408078
Online services such as:
-Playing the game you bought on cartridge which has license on it (you can't download games)
-you can't buy games
-you can't update games and console
-you can't log in or out

>>713408758
I bet you think healthcare shouldn't be though.

>>713408320
>It will also only work for switch 1 games.
So it plays 99.9% of the Switch 2 games?

>>713408769
You can refuse them. By sending them a letter within 2 weeks after accepting them.

>>713408837
You say this as if there was one country where free healthcare system works

>>713408694
>if it's anything I don't believe it
sour grapes
your own fault

>>713408851
Yes and why would you use on a switch 2 to get it banned? Crazy right.

>>713406990 (OP)
What stops someone to just walk around with a mig switch bricking people's consoles? I don't think Nintendo really thought this through. I think it'd have been sufficient to block mig switch and display the cliche piracy warning.

>>713408898
>I'm a hypocrite
I KNOW you are anon.

>>713407138
More like
>Order food at restaurant
>bring your own hot sauce
>banned and removed from establishment with no refund

>>713408951
Not really a problem because there are so few mig switchs out there.

>>713406990 (OP)
How do they even detect the MIG?
I thought it's made to look exactly like a regular cartige which is the whole point. So you should rather blame the MIgger seller who conned you.

>>713408929
Okay then just say it instead of coping. If you're so loaded why is your ass so sore from arguing with a random nobody on 4chan? You sound like an impotent narcissist with delusions of grandeur.

>>713406990 (OP)
It is just as it's legal to return that thing for a full refund

>>713409134
Yup, that brick goes back to the store and exchanged for a new system

>>713407305
flashcart that sends a signal to Nintendo saying "this dude is playing a ROM with a pirated serial number attached to it"

>>713408967
I'm not the anon you're replying to. Sorry to break your strawman
Also go on /pol/ with your bullshit that is not related to video games or at least read about how
"great" the free healthcare system is before you bring it up on fucking video games board.
fuck you. die.

>>713408320
>Nintendo will ban you anyway
Stupid question but are we talking banned on the switch 1 or the switch 2? It's pretty obvious to me that the 2 would have measures against it so did they update the original switch to detect them to?

>You may use our restroom to relieve yourself

>>>However, you WILL NOT piss on the toiletries, clog the toilets with paper, throw wadded wet toilet paper onto the ceiling, break the porcelain or smear shit all-over the floor, walls and ceiling.

>>>*Proceeds piss on the toiletries, clog the toilets with paper, throw wadded wet toilet paper onto the ceiling, break the porcelain or smear shit all-over the floor, walls and ceiling*

>>>You have been banned from the use of our facilities for this reason: piss on the toiletries, clog the toilets with paper, throw wadded wet toilet paper onto the ceiling, break the porcelain or smear shit all-over the floor, walls and ceiling

>>>>WTF!?! REEEEEEEEEEEE, WHERE IS JUSTICE? I'M LITERALLY BEING OPRESSED!!! I HAVE A GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO piss on the toiletries, clog the toilets with paper, throw wadded wet toilet paper onto the ceiling, break the porcelain or smear shit all-over the floor, walls and ceiling!!!! AHHHHHHH!!!!! I'M LITERALLY BEING ROBBED OF MY RIGHT TO SHIIIIIT!!!!

>>713409061
>>713409318
The mig carts mimic the game cards completely, yes. Game cards have individual ID signatures, so the mig copies the dumped cart's signature too.
The operating system keeps track of what games you play, and reports back to the server periodically. Nitnendo can then see that carts you've been playing have the same signature as the ones that are in the dumps on ROM sites, and/or that multiple systems have reported playing the same cartridge at the same time.
Mig was known to have this ban risk on Switch 1 consoles, so anyone using it inn a Switch 2 without expecting an online ban is a moron that didn't do any research on the thing they bought.

This whole thing is stupid because anyone with the will and the way to pirate games can do so with any PC. Let Nintendo screw over their dumbest customers and it won't affect the market at all. Anons ITT have already noted that Nin-toddlers already bought another Switch 2 because they can't think.
God, I'm glad I love ancient games that can be played on a package of Doritos. Makes pirating easy.

>>713409529
blud entered a room and said he didn't associate with anyone or anything in it

>>713408951
>what's stopping someone from stealing your switch, playing pirated games on it, and then giving it back to you after its been banned
The Second Amendment.

>>713409509
so just create a unique id bro

>>713409706
>some retarded faggot is playing a cartridge that we never printed, detonate his switch

>>713408995
it's more like you order takeout to your plot of land under your name and used your own hot sauce and get banned from that plot of land

>>713409650
Didn't say any of that.
I got a Switch 1 and can't see any logical reason to hack it. It sucks that Nintendo does this, but it's to save their financial asses.
To put it to you another way, imagine me going out of my way to buy a used car and I buy a piece of shit Fiero. Now I made myself a whole mess of work just to change the oil and it's going to break fast with lots of use.

>>713409706
Life would be so simple if that was how keys worked.

>>713406990 (OP)
How is this happening? Are these retarded? I hacked my switch and pirated a shitton early on but I never went online on the hacked system image so I never got banned. It's not complicated.

>>713409529
I'm pretty much emulating most all my switch games now but some dont emulate 100 percent and some games simply feel better in handheld mode.

>>713409819
It's like if you went to a restaurant and then put your own food on the restaurants plates and then they said you may continue eating your food on their plates but they won't sell their food to you anymore.

Why would you even use your migswitch on the switch 2 if you know it's dangerous?
Chances are if you own a migswitch you already own a switch 1

All consoles will ban you from online play if you try any kind of modification or use shit like that, why is news when Nintendo does it? I don't get it.

>>713409929
>some dont emulate 100 percent and some games simply feel better in handheld mode.
I respect that.
There's some Wiiware games that I don't have anymore and apparently I need a supercomputer to do it right, or maybe Dolphin will get optimized, but my point is that for me, if it isn't perfect, whether it be real or emulated, I put it away, so I get you.

>give a strong signal to the videogame corporations that it's time for gamers to rise up and fight against the uncontrolled price tags of modern games, which now require 80 to 90$ for an unpolished mess that is unplayable in version 1.0 and needs at least 20GB of patches to be bearable, and also now not even the buggy 1.0 is your property anymore because you just pay for the digital key, and also you know you will have to pay at least another 40$ for DLC that should have been part of the base game
>money stolen
FASCISTS LITERALLY OPPRESSING MY FREEDOM. REVOLUTION! FIGHT!

>>713407343
fuck olive garden for doing that shit to me

>>713410064
Nintendo posits itself as the family-friendly Disney-Video-Game-Company (they even got a theme park coming) and many of its loyal customers are infantilized.

>>713407261
We're morally obligated to disregard a ToS if the ToS is bad.

>>713410064
A: Because people like to bitch about Nintendo
B: Because if you then try to factory reset the system to try and escape your fate the thing ends up bricked

>>713409807
>>713409868
sounds like you're gonna have to stop being a poorfag then

>>713407247
Land of the free... as long as you bend over for the corporations

>these contract terms are bullshit
then don't agree to them

>>713407819
>>713407261
>>713410172
Stop avatarfagging with the reddit frog

>>713407343
You just described one of my fantasies except the chefs a self hating jewess

>>713410560
Dipshit tourist faggot

>>713410538
>disagree with them
>software initiates a loop if you disagree
I say because the software is in bad faith, it's null and void.
Am I the only one who at least tries to disagree with their shitty terms? Just because I buy a piece of hardware with software in it doesn't mean I agree with that corporations loose interpretations of my country's laws.

>>713407608
if you cant even make a hamburger you arent a man.

>>713410693
Any retard can make a hamburger, that's why it's a low skill menial labour job.

>>713410016
Switch 1 can't play its own games.

>>713410757
any retard can steal. thats why russians and niggers do it all the time.

>>713410662
>I say because the software is in bad faith, it's null and void.
Feel free to take them to court.
Again: if you do not like the terms do not agree to them.

>>713410880
If buying isn't ownership, then pirating isn't theft. I'm just borrowing some game files and running them through some mods.

>>713410891
>if you do not like the terms do not agree to them.
Fine I won't. I'll continue to enjoy my hacked Wii that Nintendo can't do a thing about.

>>713407160
You're probably too young to know this, but back in the day once you bought something, you were free to do whatever you wanted with it. You could install whatever OS you wanted, whatever programs you wanted, you could smash it to a million pieces, whatever.

So while you are technically correct, that doesn't make it any less dystopian.

>>713410929
society needs both burger flippers and pirates.

>>713411464
You got me there anon. You made me realize this is all manufactured argument, we all know there's only one thing society doesn't need; Israel.

>>713410538
I paid a homeless man $2 to click on agree so I have no responsibility

>>713407160
TOS aren't above the law, Tendie. I don't know how it is in Clapistan, but in EU you can't do this shit.

>>713410538
Terms of service are by no means "contracts"

>>713406990 (OP)
lmao based nintendo. fuck consoomers.

>>713409674
>buys a TEMU ICE jacket
Now you literally have to let me.

>>713411856
This. They're basically arcade/club signs that forbid certain behaviors as is their right, but they're not laws. If you don't like it, you can fuck off. It's like that everywhere, but applying that to a physical product that you bought to permanently keep, is ridiculous. Unfair even.

>>713406990 (OP)
you only bought a license not the hardware, retarded snoy

>>713412092
>you only bought a license not the hardware

>>713407676
Actually, it does

>>713412292
>3 japanese men enter your house
>take your switch 2 from you
>kick your dog on the way out
>you're fine with this
And people wonder why I think console peasants aren't real humans.

>>713406990 (OP)
Fuck around and find out. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. It really isn't that complicated.

>>713412353
He is American. They are fine with that shit

>>713408898
>You say this as if there was one country where free healthcare system works
Never heard of the european countries? They have both private + public, unlike canada and america.

>>713406990 (OP)
It's not legal in first world countries, no.

>>713407041
>contribute to the society by making us richer good goyim
Fuck off, I don't care that your beloved company is japanese they fell off a long time ago.

>>713406990 (OP)
>vote redrumfplican
>deregulates
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH NO DADDY GIVE ME BACK MUH GAYYYYYYYYMES

>online faggots desperate to be outraged at a console banning the user from using online services if caught using homebrew or pirating
All console manufacturers do this, but apparently it's only bad when Nintendo does it lol.
Pretty sure that Valve locks your Steam account away if it ever catches you swapping regions to take advantage of the exchange rates between currencies, amongst certain other behaviors it doesn't tolerate.
Don't agree with their terms of service? Then don't use it.

wait till hackers give you instructions to remove the chip blocking it you nintenfaggot

>>713412514
And none of these work. You won't have access to public because of the waiting times and if you go to private nobody gives a fuck about private diagnosis. let's say you want a paper that says that you aren't able to work at all. you have to get diagnosis for such paper only in public healthcare because dumbfucks that give out those papers don't give a shit about your private medical history. So shut the fuck up you stupid commie. World isn't sunshine and rainbows

>>713412470
>He is American. They are fine with that shit
If you signed away your kidneys to nintendo then yea they have every right to them.
IF YOU DON'T WANT NINTENDO TO HAVE YOUR KIDNEYS DO NOT SIGN AWAY YOUR RIGHTS TO THEM

>>713411745
devilish

Can you imagine
>buy a table
>decide to put certain things on it
>turns out said item(s) are against TOS
>table self-destructs

>>713412514
If you dont pay, youre fucked. I had to wait for 1 1/2 years in germany to get a mri. free healthcare is a meme.

>>713413138
Reading before signing solves this problem though

>>713406990 (OP)
>agree to ToS
>this can't possibly be legal

>>713413264
I doubt a person such as yourself understand how these legally binding agreements work. Or the fact that they can be updated or changed whenever they feel like it.

>>713412775
>Pretty sure that Valve locks your Steam account away if it ever catches you swapping regions to take advantage of the exchange rates between currencies
no they don't, to fix that they just made prices higher in poorer regions lmao so now it's less enticing

>>713413376
most tos are not legal zoomie

>>713409982
>It's like if you went to a restaurant
Instantly wrong. Buying a cucksole means buying a product, not going to the Console Place and paying to use it temporarily

>>713406990 (OP)
People who thought there would be an emulator by now have been awfully quiet.

>>713407676
Literally yes, you're just supposed to not buy the switch 2 in the first place retard.

>>713413545
>no they don't
Pretty sure that was something like a decade and half ago though.

>>713408512
lmao you couldn't afford to sue apple
you people are so fucking retarded
if you need to pirate shit just use a fucking pc

>brag about how the switch 2 is hacked by the MiG switch
>Nintendo starts banning MiG users
>Cry that Nintendo is being mean
Lmao

MIGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

>>713407183
Nintendroens aren't "people", but nice try, subhuman.

>>713406990 (OP)
it's tos. you can put anything in terms of service and it's fine, because whoever buys the product agrees to it. pretty sure there's a waiver of rights in there too, so no one can countersue, and anyone suing nintendo without owning a switch 2 would get thrown out on lack of standing unless it's a class action (which wouldn't likely hold up because waiver).

>>713409529
I've dabbled in emulation. Nintendo games (at least GameCube ones) emulate pretty good and you have to set the controls to your controller but it works
Sony and some 360 games are another story, some run like shit or are intensive to set up
Tendies are too stupid to download an emulator and a rom and hit play

>>713406990 (OP)
>I steal things
>wtf, you can't ban me from your store!!!
>that's fascist and illegal!!!

>>713413138
>hello, yeah I want to buy this table
>steals chairs
>wtf, why is the police arresting me??? I dindu I good boi

@FBI @NINTENDO DO SOMETHING

>>713407138
Never had this happen to me or anyone i know.

>>713410482
If you set up a switch over an eu connection vpn would that solve the problem?

>>713414101
>borrowing books is stealing
>borrowing perfect copies is stealing
>no one is deprived of anything and no sale was ever going to happen but it's stealing

>>713407247
>they might ban you from online play but thats about it.
That's literally what they're doing here.

>>713413138
Kek under what circumstances would you put this cartridge in the console without knowing exactly what you're doing

>>713414346
>enter cakeria
>I will just ...borrow... this cake
nice try, faggot

>>713414393
>cakeria
You mean a bakery...?

>>713406990 (OP)
can't you still just play the games offline?

>>713413517
So you read it
The TOS clearly says to not do something
And you buy it with the intent to break the TOS

Malice behavior and not in your favor either

>>713406990 (OP)
Enough of this Hebrew nonsense. Where's my Ryujinx2 emulator? Soon?

>>713414393
If I can point a device at the cake and make a copy, no one is harmed. I wasn't going to buy the cake anyway and now I have cake, and so does the proprietor.

>>713414431
no, cakery ESL

>>713414648
>I wasn't going to buy the cake anyway
>so it's fine when I steal it
Denuvo proves you wrong.
And banning you shouldn't be a problem either.

>>713414626
some of you have terrible social skills

>>713414828
>I didn't take the thing so that means I took the thing!
Whoa.

>>713414648
>i have something i didn't pay for
a thief says this
so
we call that person
a thief

WOW

>>713414871
>I just watched the movie in the cinema without paying
>the movie is still in the cinema, so everything is fine

>>713414905
Thieves DEPRIVE others of goods. If I make a copy, no one is harmed. I know this is complicated (and you are trolling ), but it's the fax.

>>713414842
it's not the social skills anon, it's the artificial hoop jumping. I would rather you have to create an account and post on a fucking forum like the good old days than be subjected to Discord shenanigans (which I don't have in the first place)

>>713414949
Honestly, if you paid for popcorn and soda that makes it all right. Next.

>>713414980
>I just made a copy of this movie in the cinema and then uploaded it online
>NO COPY WAS STOLT
>I'M GOOD BOI

>>713414626
XD

>>713406990 (OP)
This is legitimately the best business strategy Nintendo has ever pulled because tendies are so loyal that they will just buy a second Switch 2. That's why it's called the Switch 2, because everyone will buy a second one after theirs bricks.

>>713415025
>I, I totally paid for one game
>that means I can grab all the other games for free
>I good boi

>>713415042
>*it rains outside*
>*collect water in rain barrels*
>Anon now says I own Nestle $100,000.00

>>713415121
>video games, food and this bicycle are water and are raining down from the heavens
>I didn't stolt anything
>I good boi

>>713415082
Frankly at my age and after going to all the arcades and playing all the consoles at so many homes, yes. Yes, I am entitled. I've paid for it all. Many of those plunked quarters weren't refunded when the machines ate them.
>inb4 "IT SED NO REFUNS!!!
Back then we had rights and such signs didn't come about until the late 80s and were rare.

I agree he's an idiot but I love watching tendies seethe and cope

>>713407138
>Buy programmable computer
>Can't program it
Imagine defending this with fucking food analogy

>>713415170
If it rained TV sets and pizzas, yes you'd be a fool not to take advantage.
As long as my conscience is clear it's fine.

>>713415069
Kek

>>713407261
>Buy Product
>turn on product after purchase
>Product has a 1200 page ToS and legal License agreement forms programmed to open upon the first use
>Click No do not agree to ToS
>Product powers off
>Repeat process
>Product is forced Agree to ToS and Licensing Agreement or unable to use product
>Only see and access ToS AFTER purchase.

>>713415225
>I paid for arcade games
>that means I deserve all other games too
>I also paid for car
>that means I deserve all cars
>I worked at McDs once
>that means I deserve millions
>Jamal good boi

The MiG switch is a terrible product really. Yes it has the capability to boot roms as carts but if you're banned you're fucked. You can install updates or newer firmwares. Mig switch ONLY makes sense if you already have a custom firmware but then it defeats the purpose cus you already have the ability to install games then at that point.

It only exists or makes sense for people who want to hold their game roms on a single insert able cartridge.

Anyone with an unhacked switch shouldn't be using this thing. And that's the problem it's marketed to people with unhacked switches.

>>713406990 (OP)
>MIG switch gets announced
>Tendies: This thing is going to get you banned
>Piratetrannies: HA! Imagine paying for games when I can play them for free
>gets banned
>Piratetrannies: "WHAT THE FUCK NINTENDO? THOSE WERE JUST MY 'BACKUPS'"
You morons did this to yourselves

>>713415325
>>I paid for arcade games
>>that means I deserve all other games too
>>I also paid for car
>>that means I deserve all cars
Yes. My taxes paid for the roads and car maker subsidies. It's all mine.

>>713415437
>Evolutionist
>Criminal
Many such cases

>>713415498
lol I am neither.
Btw I own some arcade games, but I want you to know that I'm building a bunch more--all emulation--and will sell them.

At least be honest with yourself and just say that you want free shit, don't try to pull this moral high ground shit
>Oh the company that wants money don't want me to pirate their stuff how could they >:(

>>713415594
I pirate when the legit copies are censored (e.g., Shinobi) or just unavailable due to cost or rarity. I will download Neo Turf Masters just to make youtube faggots seethe though.

>>713406990 (OP)
>use pirated software
>go online while using said pirated software
>get banned
Why are people so completely fucking retarded? Why the fuck are you connecting your pirated Nintendo shit to the internet?

>>713414326
Land of the free...as long as you rely on other countries to appear more free than you.

>>713415715
>I just need to play uncensored Ubislop

>>713407138
>Go to a Restaurant
>Take home food
>put left overs in fridge
>Chef comes to your house and sets your kitchen on fire

>>713406990 (OP)
STEAM DECK FLOPPED NINTENGODS WON STEAM DECK FLOPPED NINTENGODS WON STEAM DECK FLOPPED NINTENGODS WON STEAM DECK FLOPPED NINTENGODS WON STEAM DECK FLOPPED NINTENGODS WON STEAM DECK FLOPPED NINTENGODS WON STEAM DECK FLOPPED NINTENGODS WON STEAM DECK FLOPPED NINTENGODS WON STEAM DECK FLOPPED NINTENGODS WON

>>713413696
You don't own shit
You won't do shit
Incel MIGAtard

>>713413076
Unironically its true. Didn't you hear that Disney got away with murder in court thanks to their disney+ tos?

>>713416532
>Make Iran Great Again
MIGA

>>713414487
NTA but Nintendo automatically signed you up for their forced arbitration tos change if you have a Nintendo account last year, with no way to opt out and no choice of rejecting.
Enjoy your neoserfdom shillbro.

>>713414346
Yes anon, people buy entire consoles and flashcarts for the sole purpose of playing games they'd never have bought.

>>713416532
I don't own shit because I don't BUY this shit in the first place, you trooner

>>713416767
If someone gives me something and that something wasn't taken from anyone, then it's charity. Charity is good.

Don't try to hack if you don't know the risk, noobs.

>>713407138
>Order and pay for food
>bring your own bottled water
>banned for life. No refunds. No food. Thanks for the money suckers.

>>713406990 (OP)
1. Buy a ton of knock off migswitches
2. Slap mario kart label on them
3. Sell THOUSANDS OF THEM on every platform on the internet
4. Laugh as tons of people are banned and have no idea why.

>>713416867
tranimebros???

>>713417016
Kek, someone do this

>>713407343
that's kinda hot

>>713406990 (OP)
FAFO

>>713414828
>they added shit to my cake so now I can't or don't even want to copy it
Denuvo damn you!!

>>713417016
make sure the case isn't the original case since it has a slot for the microSD

>>713415338
because they do zero research on anything and just want to jump on the dab on nintendo train when you read all the cfw guides they literally all tell you do not play pirated games while connected to the internet if you need the internet ro download homebrew then you use 90DNS even then all that shit is basically walking on eggshells people saw the "DONT LET NINTENDO SEE THIS" brainrot tiktoks and i'd say a good 90% of those buyers have their switches banned as a result

>>713413138
>buy table
>put a fucking anvil on it
>table breaks from the weight
>anon is retarded

>>713413545
>no they don't
They do

>>713418303
you got any proof to back that up king

Count on retarded tendies to always show up to defend the billion dollar corporation.

>>713411132
>but back in the day once you bought something, you were free to do whatever you wanted with it.
Yeah, and that turned you guys into soft little BITCHES that didn't defend your fucking rights and the end result was now Copyrights last +110 years instead of 50 or so thanks to Papa Disney fucking you in the ass and you morons buying horse armor.

>>713407138
>food analogy

>>713418371
eh, its the same with steam or anything people have invested heavily into. Admitting they themselves are wrong would result in ego death

>be a retarded nigger using a gateway flashcart
>3ds gets bricked
it is literally your own fault

>>713415069
lmaooooooo got em

I think bricking the consoles is kind of disgusting. I can understand banning you form online, but a full brick is just fucked up.

>>713419110
It's not a brick though, you can still use the console you just can't connect it to the internet

>>713414980
>Thieves DEPRIVE others of goods
Theft is defined by OBTAINING goods illegally, not deprivation.

>>713406990 (OP)
it's not possibly legal to be that retarded indeed

this grift would be respectable if you at least owned up to the thievery aspect of it. instead you cower behind words like women

>>713416935
>Order and pay for food
Ok, so I guess food here is the console
>banned for life. No refunds. No food
You still have the console. You can still play purchased games on it. You just can't play online

>>713411132
You still can. ToS agreements only apply to services, like Nintendo Switch Online. They can't do anything to your hardware, its still yours.

>>713419201
It's not that simple. Watch the video op posted.

>>713411819
>but in EU you can't do this shit.
You don't have any idea what you're talking about

>>713407247
>legal in the us but not in the eu.
Its exactly the same in both regions
>they might ban you from online play but thats about it
That's exactly what happens in the USA as well
>in the us they can and will brick your console.
That's false, they've never bricked anyone's console. That was just speculation by retarded journalists. That would also be illegal in the USA

>>713411132
>but back in the day once you bought something, you were free to do whatever you wanted with it.
Which you weren't. The only difference between then and now is that it was harder to enforce due to the lack of Internet.
Don't pretend to be older than you are.

>>713406990 (OP)
You can still play games offline

>>713420265
>You can still play purchased games on it.
you can't

>>713406990 (OP)
>use piracy device
>get banned
Fucking shocker

>>713420848
Yes you can, retard. I bought an online banned Switch 1 off Facebook and it works just fine.

>>713407343
>Just another shift on Space Station 13...

>>713420848
No you can, as long as your device is the primary device for digital downloads, you don't delete any and/or you play only cartridge games (proper cartridges with the game on them, not game key carts).

>>713415283
>As long as my conscience is clear it's fine.
lmao the logic you thieving niggers use is astounding

I cloned a nintendo server on a raspberry pi and unbricked my switch 2

no I will not tell you how I did it

>>713420950
Key carts should still work if your system is banned from online play

>>713414980
>>713419369

To be more specific: depriving someone of goods is larceny, which is a subset of theft although the most common and well known one (and also usually the most severe).

However "theft" by itself is obtaining/making use of anything without permission (i.e. if you steal something, use it and then give it back it'd STILL be theft even if the person never needed it for the time it was gone). "Service theft" is it's own subset of theft such as not paying your plumber. Or wage theft.
Copyright infringement is a subset of service theft in that case: you are not obtaining permission (in this case by paying for a usage license) to the owner of an IP but you are still making use of it.

In short: all larceny is theft. Not all theft is larceny. People that think theft can only ever be larceny and if something doesn't fit the definition of larceny it's not theft don't know shit.

>>713421043
Because you didn't.

>>713411819
>but in EU you can't do this shit.
It's perfectly legal to refuse services if you don't follow the rules set by the seller.

>>713411819
>but in EU you can't do this shit.

>>713406990 (OP)
But he bought the device though and therefore owed it..so by right he should have control over it's modification and whatnot

>purchased hardware intentionally bricking itself if you don't run the exact software that the manufacturer approves or use it as they intend
>most retards here (or anywhere) think this is fine
Software as a Service and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>713421447
>intentionally bricking itself
Getting banned from online service is not bricking

>>713421490
Don't bother, anti-tendies are just going to obfuscate facts as much as possible.

>>713421490
how do I get bug fixing patch for the game I bought.

>>713421490
If you factory reset the console, you cannot login to a new account because internet service is permanently blocked from the device. In such a situation you cannot even sign into the account the triggered Nintendo's blocking algorithm and play offline.

>>713412292
>>713413748
>Literally yes
you cannot sign away your rights you fucking retards, you've fallen for company jewery

>>713421575
You can still update games through USB

>>713421657
where are the patches

>>713407608
The burger flipping company adds more to the economy than your KWAB job.

>>713421618
That's not bricking. You can still play it offline.

>>713421376
And he does, no one is stopping him from installing a CFW

>>713421618
You don't have to sign in to use it offline

>>713421687
On the official nintendo servers, that you can't access because you broke the rules.

>>713421618
Honestly at that point it's like being upset that deleting system32 basically bricks your PC, just don't do it then?
>>713421687
With every other switch game file you can find online

>>713406990 (OP)
Based, get fucked

I like how the discussion shifted from
>"That clause in the TOS has been there since the Wii and they've never done it! It's just legal speech!"
to
>"Yeah they did it and I hope they do it again."
Company cultists are truly something else. Like think for a second, losing customer protections gives you NOTHING.

>>713421926
They've banned people from their online services for decades now, that's still all they are doing still and people are acting like it's destroying their system

>>713421926
until i get what i want i will never defend people like you

>>713406990 (OP)
don't try to go online with your hacked roms. simple.

>>713406990 (OP)
>buy Nintendo product
>get Nintendo treatment
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?!?!?!?! WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING????

>>713421985
Destroying core functionality of their system.

>>713422094
It literally is not, you can still play the games

>>713422126
online

>>713422145
Well then you shouldn't have been a stupid motherfucker
Literally every thing ever will ban you if you modify their shit and connect to the internet

>>713422219
I accept your concession.

>>713415249
just program the ban away duh

>>713408535
Except that you’re a weak little faggot with brittle bones and you won’t do shit. I signed your terms but you’re too much of a bitch to enforce them, now what nigger?

>>713421751
In the video op posted, the guy tried to sign out of the banned account, which he could not do. So then he did a factory reset to try and sign into a new account. He could not do that because internet service was blocked PER DEVICE. It wasn't tied to the account.

>>713421926
No retard, the discussion was about children throwing a tantrum about how nintendo will brick switches for fun, to which the reply was that this clause had been in the Wii EULA and wasn't abused either. And the recent bans over nigswitches aren't abusing it either.

>>713422280
Yeah and? You can still get games and play them

>nintendo can ban me from playing online because i modified a system I OWN
make it make sense

>>713422280
Good, get what you deserve for buying Nintendo shit like the faggots you are. Now fuck off and die nigger.

>>713421632
Your entire existence is on lease for whatever God or cold, uncaring void of oblivion birthed you in the first place.
You don't get to decide when your true final moment is, and you don't get to decide where you go after you croak.

I think it's funny people only ever try to pull the moral high ground on TOSs when it comes to being too poor to afford stuff
They never care about the actual fucked up shit in TOSs except when they get banned for obviously cheating / hacking the system

>>713422257
You replied to that post and by thay you accepted the terms of service which clearly say that I fuck your mom

>>713422328
>nintendo
Get what you deserve you dumb fucking nigger.

>>713407282
>since the Wii
Completely wrong. Mario Kart Wii online was completely dead because of it. Can't seem to find anything definitive on the Wii U, though.

>>713422364
nothing illegal about modifying the thing you own.

>>713422376
Yeah and you wont do shit. I accepted your terms but you’re too weak and niggerish to do a single thing about it. Now what nigger?

>>713407138
>Buy TV
>Watch channel on your property
>Manufacturer don't want you to use your property that way so they brick it
You're the reason you will own nothing and think that's the way it should be

>>713422319
You can't get any new games because you need an internet connection to download them. Switch 2 carts aren't real.

>>713422447
You don’t own it. You paid money to house and use their product under their rules. That’s the world you live in.

>>713407160
Faggot what kind of terms are shown AFTER you already paid? Also the terms are designed not to be read. Idiot.

>>713422328
You don't own the software, it's how every business operated. In the terms of service it clearly states that if you wish to use the software you have to use it in they way they intend you to do so. So if you then use a third party device to exploit the software and you get caught they can take away your software license. It's not that hard.

>>713422447
And you can, you can do whatever you want with the hardware and software of that one individual system. except they are obviously gonna ban compromised systems to protect the online experience of everyone else

>>713406990 (OP)
They signed an EULA when they bought it so yes, it is legal.

>>713422447
You own the Nintendo Switch 2 hardware. Which is useless without Nintendo's servers. Which they have the right to ban you from at any time.

>>713422460
is your TV a smartTV?
if it's a smartTV you have no ground to stand on

>>713422460
And what are you going to do about it other than cry on 4chin? Hm? Nothing? No I didn’t think so, shut your faggot mouth and take it up the ass like you’re used to. This is your world now.

>>713422280
>So then he did a factory reset to try and sign into a new account. He could not do that because internet service was blocked PER DEVICE. It wasn't tied to the account.
Meaning you can still play offline you fucking moron.

>We agree to sell you this handheld home console if you agree to these caveats
>Okay sure!
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T BREAK OUR AGREEMENT? REEEEE CUSTOMER RIGHTS
You are like black karens asking 5000 times why they are being trespassed from Walmart, it's hilarious to watch.

>>713410929

Pirating isn't theft period you fucking retard, stop parroting dumb youtube comments.

>>713422460
Pretty sure jEWs are the reason for that

>>713422650
>We agree to sell you this handheld home console if you agree to these caveats
Never happened it was just sitting the shelf.

>>713422539
>except they are obviously gonna ban compromised systems to protect the online experience of everyone else
Ok but I need these bug fixing game updates for the game I bought.

do you get paid to suck nintendo's cock or do you do it for free?

>>713422694
Not every agreement is made by signing a contract. You agree when you boot it up the first time/you make your account.

>>713422280
>So then he did a factory reset to try and sign into a new account. He could not do that because internet service was blocked PER DEVICE. It wasn't tied to the account.
That's some nigger tier wording you faggot.
He ATTEMPTED to factory reset the system but couldn't reset it because the features were locked. Meaning it could still be used offline but was banned.

>>713422768
>You agree when you boot it up the first time/you make your account.
Too late I already own it.

>>713422678
If it were up to Jews you wouldn't have sellers rights to begin with.

>>713422694
Not how it works you dumb retard

>>713422823
Oh but it does. I didn't agree not to modify this device before I purchased it.

>>713422872
>I didn't agree not to modify this device before I purchased it.
Yea, you did.

>>713422872
it's written on the box, though ;)

Nah, it isn't. MS for example banned people in the 360 era who had hacked DVD firmwares to play pirated copies.

>>713422898
>it's written on the box, though ;)
Nope.

>>713422950
you lose

>>713422650
>>We agree to sell you this handheld home console if you agree to these caveats
Except they demand you pay for the product before you can even read the caveats, let alone agree to them. But that's just nitpicking.

You still deserve what you get by buying Nintendo products.

>>713422809
Doesn't work, but please argue that when your switch 2 gets bricked. I can use the content for my channel :)

>>713406990 (OP)
>>713407343
thats not whats really happening, though, is it?
You can still play the switch 2, you can play the games you paid for.
You just cannot play online or join nintendos online services, which makes sense since theyre trying to block hacking faggots from damaging their shit.
Hack crack and smack your physical hardware all you want, but you dont get the right to access THEIR software or services if you do.
So its more like you kept harassing the drive thru staff so they barred you from using it, forcing you to just eat inside.

>>713423005
I don't see a signature field or anything that may possibly be construed as my legal agreement.

>>713422752
Oh well. You're out of luck.

>>713423069
>I don't see a signature field
>by using the switch you agree to terms
on the box
you agreed

>>713423049
I'm not interested in tendie shit

>>713422778
>>713422638
See >>713422507
not even gonna argue with you braindead tendies

>>713406990 (OP)
Switch 2 sales have been mostly from Japan, where it's actually cheaper than the PS5 at just about $350, so expect no lawsuits.
https://archive.is/5zO6r#selection-1661.0-1661.171
You only see million sales figures from Japan as far as per-country reports go.

>>713423069
Okay you know what then lmao Try taking Nintendo to court about it and see how far you get

>>713422507
just use your little miggy

>>713414346
>borrowing perfect copies
>"borrowing"
How is it "borrowing" were you gonna give the copy back?

>>713423132
Yeah them grapes be sour now

>>713423015
not really, its
>on the box
>on the website
>in the agreement (digital) you can access at any time
if you really think you had no way of knowing what you were agreeing to at time of purchase, you are the kind of retard people can sell meteor insurance to.

Either way its a moot point, as legally this would fall under reasonable assumption laws, that is to say how a reasonable person would assume or perceive the rules. The notion that "I didnt know there would be rules regarding modifying the software owned by Nintendo" is too retarded to defend, any reasonable person would assume there would be something in the agreement stopping criminal activity.
So even if it were not on the box, youd still lose. Unless you can somehow convince the judge the everyman is as retarded as you were.

>>713407343
>food analogy
opinion utterly discarded and concession accepted

>>713407138
>buy your own coffee machine
>try to make coffee using non-branded blend
>the manufacturer shuts down your machine forever
>and your balls explode

>>713423157
Because you know you're wrong. You're not even prevented from buying new games either since you can always just buy physical which currently the majority of games are.

>>713423318
This, the only time the law protects ignorance of the law is when the rules are DELIBERATELY obfuscated AND unreasonable
lot of retardfaggots on /v/ like to parrot "muh EULA isnt legally binding" without actually understanding the laws and cases where EULA was not enough to enforce a rule
theres two main points
>the agreement is reasonable
>the agreement was easily discoverable
the only times EULA or other similar things failed in court, was when they broke these rules and hid away some agreement that was unreasonable, unfair and what the average person would not have assumed to be available
For example agreeing to give up organs by buying a game is obviously not passable in court, but agreeing to not tamper and modify copyrighted software or code that is protected clearly is reasonable.

The faggots here lost so hard and they know it, so really its a bunch of kids screaming into the void about how right they are with nothing to back it up.

>>713423069
It's called your receipt.

>>713423512
>you can always just buy physical which currently the majority of games are.
sigh. anon. the physicals are not real. they are keys

>>713406990 (OP)
>dont buy anything from nintardo
>pirate every single game i wanna play
>emulate it on a superior machine
>cant get banned

>>713423550
Sigh. Anon. The physicals are separate. They are not keys.

>>713423318
>as legally this would fall under reasonable assumption laws
>that is to say how a reasonable person would assume or perceive the rules
and modifying the thing you own is a reasonable assumption since it's 100% legal.

>>713423521
>the agreement is reasonable
nope

>>713423091
By reading this post you agree to forfeit your immortal soul.
Contracts don't work that way, Satan. An explicit, legally verifiable, written agreement is required. If the box said Nintendo reserved the right to burn your house down, it would hold no legal power. Neither does this.

>>713423568
>cant get banned
aren't you already not using their online? so you're already banned?

>>713423642
>abide by the rules of the establishment or you will be forcibly removed
That's completely reasonable.

>>713422459
Your life must be sad

>>713423545
The receipt is a contract between me and the seller, not the manufacturer.

>>713423604
Not if you agreed not to, which you did.

>>713423704
"Rules of the establishment" can't violate the law. This is why most EULAs don't hold up in court.

>>713423718
>The receipt is a contract between me and the seller
Regarding the purchase of a product with its own terms of use that you agreed to upon purchasing

>>713423604
a company being fine with exploiting the software you're licensing from them isn't a reaspmable assumption

>>713423604
this is how a retard (You) thinks
modifying the hardware is allowed, sure.
modifying the software, service or codebase isnt.
Now how do these modifications bypass nintendos copy protections... hmm...
i-it couldnt be that they bypass the copyprotections! that would be illegal! That would be what nintendos lawsuits over the emulators was about, that would make sense!
Couldnt possibly be that, oh no no!

>>713423642
its completely reasonable to assume that buying a console does not give you the right to hack the software and bypass protections legally owned by tendo.
You lost. Youre done.

>>713423785
>Rules of the establishment" can't violate the law
You're right, because it is the law. Its their private property/product and they can choose who enters or uses it as the owner.
Your consumer rights do not supersede the rights of the owner.

Honestly. I would be behind the people who want to mod Switch 2 etc. if there were any cool reasons.
But it's just them wanting to pirate all games and make easy kits for other people to pirate games as well, then comes all the possible cheats and other hacks to fuck up games. There really isn't a "homebrew" stuff that people want to do.
It's just 100% them wanting to pirate games and then spam "OH NO NO NO NO NO" stuff everywhere.

>>713423673
>If the box said Nintendo reserved the right to burn your house down, it would hold no legal power.
yes because that is of course absurd, and your fallacy of appeal to absurdity doesnt change the actual law, eric.
Read. >>713423521

>>713423673
NTA but buying something is indeed agreeing to a legally binding contract, retardanon

>>713423824
>with exploiting the software you're licensing from them
Never happened. I just loaded my own software on the device I purchased.

>>713423796
Nope. It is quite literally just the exchange of the physical goods listed, between me and the seller. The license agreement is between me and the manufacturer/service provider, but the seller doesn't come into it. They're separate things.

>>713423785
>This is why most EULAs don't hold up in court.
False narrative spread by retarded mutts.
Read: >>713423521

>>713423385
service analogy actually

>>713423872
Aka a software modification.

>>713423838
>modifying the software, service or codebase isnt.
Ok I didn't modify it. Now what?
>does not give you the right to hack the software
Nintendo's software is unchanged.

>>713423912
based brainlet, one big agency is already preparing a lawsuit against nintendo because of it. Tendies are going to cry all year long after getting btfo.

>>713423916
No modification.

>>713423947
>one big agency is already preparing a lawsuit against nintendo because of it.
They do know that "I WANT TO STEAL YOUR GAMES WAAAAH!" isn't an argument, right?

>>713423947
source? which agency?

>>713423872
And how did you do that anon?
By using a device that breaks the protections of the software legally owned by nintendo yes?
Thats the issue you massive faggot. You bypassed their protections and used a tool that forced illegal modification of software that you agreed to not modify.
You dont own the software or code and you do not have the right to overrule their copy protections just because you bought some hardware.
Buying a car doesnt gift you the right to Fords offices and coffee machine.

>pirate game
>get banned
>money not stolen
Feels good to not have to pay for NSO lol

>>713423912
>giving yourself (You)s
pathetic

>>713420501
>>713421339
Anon is actually right. You can legally, literally ignore any and all TOS in the EU if you deem it "unfair" which is extremely vague in the directive, meaning that you can just ignore all TOS you agree to if you're european.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?qid=1429176294813&uri=CELEX:31993L0013

>>713424017
Does it matter? Even if they do exist they won't after they try.

>>713423673
>Contracts don't work that way
yes they do
but good news: you believe in religion so you qualify as retarded and can have your signature voided

>>713423872
The migswitch exploits the software by pretending the game loaded to it's microSD card is a proper switch cartridge. This in turn makes pirated copies work on the console.

>>713424029
>modification of software
Nope it's still on the switch untouched.

>EUistan anons insisting they know the laws
remind them of the stop killing games thing
couldn't find a million signatures in all of the EU to support it

>>713424047
>meaning that you can just ignore all TOS you agree to if you're european.
OK and now try ignoring the TOS for The Crew and playing it.

>>713424047
No anon.
There's a difference between "being" unfair and "deeming" it unfair. The former is objective and what the law pertains to in other words, attempting to steal games and getting banned isn't unfair since you brought that on yourself.
The latter is just whining essentially.

>>713423947
Will never happen, as legally nintendo is 100% within their rights.
You have the right to modify your hardware and they have the right to deny you access to their services and software that they own. This is how it works literally anywhere, and if it wasnt, then why wasnt Microsoft sued? They did the literal exact same thing over a decade ago. Same with sony.
Its only come up now because, as we all know, youre a seething snoy. Doesnt change the laws nor the fact there is no legal issue here.

You spat at the employees and are now removed from the store, barred from returning. You can keep whatever shit you bought but youre not going back into the store. That simple. Dont like it? Buy another switch 2 then kek.

>>713424172
>You can keep whatever shit you bought
but now the thing I bought doesn't work

>>713424092
>>713423942
This is literally false though
How do we know youre a liar or retarded? Because the switch 2 detected modification and banned your system from their services.
if there was NO modification... then how did it know what you did?

You really think we're all as unintelligent and uninformed as you? We know why exactly migs are breaking switches, and it has to do with the fact it modifies the software.
You lost. Youre done.

>>713424276
>if there was NO modification... then how did it know what you did?
Because it scans for 3rd party software on the device.

>>713424047
problem with that retard
>youre not the one deeming it unfair or not
so youre wrong. The court decides if it was unfair or unreasonable, not you.
Read: >>713423521

>>713424142
That's how it works in America, in yurop the courts will always side with the unproductive person over the productive person since the productive person can afford to pay anyway. The utilitarianism is inhuman here.
>t. European who follows court habbenings

>>713424047
>taking legal advice from 4chan
PROMOTIONS

>>713424260
It works perfectly fine, you've just been refused services as a result of your actions.

>>713410538
>Why yes, I did disagree to the ToS but still used the product anyways, how could you tell?

>>713424046
>caring about (You)s as if its reddit
pathetic
>dodging accountability with deflection because you were BTFOd
pathetic-er.

>>713424387
>It works perfectly fine
game I bought doesn't work

MiGgers deserve it.
>I want to bring all my games with me
>No, I don't want to use a travel case because it might get lost or stolen
I had these issues too, you know what I did? I bought all my games digitally starting in 2017. Now the only entity that can steal my games is Nintendo and even when you steal from them they're kind enough to only slap you with a $450 penalty and not ban your entire account, which for users like me exceeds the value of new Nintendo Switch 2 by several magnitudes.

>>713424449
>digitalcuck
get cancer and die

>>713424260
yes it does, you just cant play online. Can still play games you already installed or got physically in full.
>but its an online only game
your own fault then. You can sill boot the main menu.

>>713424407
>implying I'm am*rican
>implying you're not a samefag

>>713424490
>yes it does
It won't start says I need a update.

>>713424370
>in yurop the courts will always side with the unproductive person
No, that would be corruption of her highest order and extremely blatant which is why it doesn't happen here in Europe.

>>713424410
Except you can still play all of the physical and downloaded games you had before.

>>713424520
>It won't start says I need a update.
You're lying.

>>713424576
>Except you can still play all of the physical and downloaded games you had before.
I have a new game

>>713424489
Okay, and when I'm dying in my hospital bed I'll be able to fire up any game I have stored on my 1TB microSD without having to switch cartridges.

>>713424370
>>t. European who follows court habbenings
>proceeds to describe American court nonsense and not European.
There's a reason why patent trolls only exist in America anon.

>>713424363
False. Keep lying though im sure it will work eventually.
>the switch 2 has detected irregular changes and illegal access or modification to its software
>uhh, n-no its just scanning for 3rd party cards!
and yet, 3rd party games are fine... huh
how does it know the voltage changed? how does it know the signatures changed?

You know the funny part, mig is fine if its your OWN games, that YOU dumped. What is getting people is those who stole and pirated copies of games, as its triggering the check for a unique ID.
so all bricked switches are people admitting to piracy and running the same game ID as someone else.

Simple and genius way of tendo to catch rats, simply check an ID for dupes and ban every dupe no questions asked. And you poorfags fell for it hook line and sinker.
you can CRY and SCREAM online about it, but we all know you stole the game because we know why it knew to ban you.

>>713424601
If its physical it's perfectly playable.
How far are you going to go before you realise you have no argument?

>>713424047
no you moron, this directive says that a consumer can request the EU to have a company stop any contract they've previously signed, if both the consumer and the subsequent investigation by a member state finds that the terms were indeed unfair. You can't just ignore TOS because you don't feel like following it.

>>713424683
>False.
Truth.

>>713424509
>implying I'm am*rican
never happened, schizo
>implying you're not a samefag
thats not what a samefag is, tourist. lurk more or go back.

>>713424660
You won't be able to play them without connecting to the internet, which you won't have access to on your deathbed digitalcuck

>>713424702
Nope you need a update.

>one of the fastest threads right now
what's the best advice for getting (You)s here?

>>713424520
Lying.
Whenever theres a game update there is an option to ignore it and play anyway
>unless its an online game
too bad, scum. No shit if youre banned from online youre banned from online games.

Why is it that zoomers just lack the ability to take responsibility for their own actions?

>>713424793
>Whenever theres a game update there is an option to ignore it and play anyway
Not after they ban you.

>>713424781
Just say anything thing about tendieshit, the cultist fanbase will drown you in (You)s and call you an Erik

>713424781
be retarded

>>713424721
>no argument or rebuttal
I won, then, as to be expected as facts are on my side.
You lost, piratefag.

>>713424818
It doesn't change after you get banned.

>>713424857
How would you know tendie

>>713424137
I think you misunderstand the directive. If you're interested you should read it. It's pretty useful if you like in the EU.
You can ignore the TOS but the service doesn't become magically available simply because of that. The service is still down, which is what the SKG tries to remedy to some degree.

However, more recently the mobile industry is already getting regulations after some horse game for little girls "dug too deep" in the proverbial gold mine and now the mobile sphere is getting regulated.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_831
PC and console games getting regulated is not out of the question, although it's not yet discussed by the Commission.

>>713424142
That's the fun part anon. There isn't. For all intents and purposes, thanks to the wording in the directive, almost anything can be deemed unfair.
>attempting to steal games and getting banned
I have no comments on the current matter on hand with "stealing", except that piracy is outright legal in some EU countries already.
I can pirate all I want and companies may try to get me banned but I am still within my legal rights to pirate for personal consumption.

>>713424368
See above. While you are correct in who ULTIMATELY deems things unfair, the wording allows lots of leeway to be accounted as unfair for lawyers on the consumer side, but ask a european lawyer if you want to be perfectly accurate.
The reason it doesn't have many cases is because TOS and EULA is hard to enforce and people don't take it to court.

>>713424375
Always research the laws in question before you act. Sharing information doesn't equal to legal advice. If someone needs to say that then they shouldn't browse this site yet in all likelihood.

>>713424703
Yeah, that's it. Where's the confusion?
>you "break" EULA
>company tries to enforce it by suing you or whatever
>they'll have an extremely hard time because of the directive above
>they don't (extreme cases are an exception of course)

>BUT THEY HAVE THE RIGHTS TO DO THAT JUST LIKE ADOBE
kys nint*ddler

>>713424781
Just say anything thing about nintendo good, the cultist haters will drown you in (You)s and call you an nintentoddler

>>713424781
Say something factually wrong and double down like this guy >>713424827
People will be so enraged by your stupidity that they won't be able to resist calling you out.

Alternatively, just say that you didn't like Sony's latest game, granted that might get you banned.

>>713424854
All you said was False with no justification so you got a taste of your own medicine.

>>713423872
If it was just your own software, you wouldn't have been banned :)

>implying that piratechads don't just intentionally ban themselves
I won't pay for NSO, simple as

>>713424781
Just say anything made up and pretend its facts, the wiser people will drown you in (You)s and call you a retard

>>713424937
Good job proving my point so easily

>>713424941
>All you said was False
>if you ignore all the words after false!
man, you retards are reeeeaaally stretching for this one
THIS is the best theyre sending?

Here come the tardpatrol claiming that everybody who used the mig switch didn't own their games. Not a good look nintendo!

>>713424965
>If it was just your own software, you wouldn't have been banned :)
>>713424363

>>713424913
>>you "break" EULA
>>company tries to enforce it by suing you or whatever
company takes away your right to access their servers

>>713424913
>Always research the laws in question before you act.
You're saying this buy all of your replies are just you making shit up or misinterpreting laws.
You've even gone as far to say that piracy is legal in some European countries when there isn't a single one that allows it.

Hey faggot, let me borrow your switch 2 for a second
>inserts 'ig in the 'itch and launches a pirated game
Here you go senpai

>>713425015
>how does it know the voltage changed? how does it know the signatures changed?
It doesn't it just looks at the drive.

>>713425014
Case in point.
I simply hinted at something negative about Sony and now he's hooked.

Nintendo *gawk gawk gawk* can neve- *gawk gawk gawk* do any wr- *gawk gawk gawk* wrong. Why would you thin*gawk gawk gawk* that you can play games you own *gawk gawk gawk* on a new console that purposely didn't include *gawk gawk* backwards compatabil*gawk gawk gawk*

>Buys nintendo switch 2
>Inserts Mig switch
>Bricks console
>Returns
>Rinse and repeat
Um, sour grapes or something not my problem

What's preventing me from putting a mario kart sticker on my mig switch caetridge and selling it so I can spread ban AIDS around?
>hurf durf fuck off snoy
No, this would be a W for us nintendochads since that would mean even more switch 2 sales since people will have to rebuy the system

>>713425127
This is what happens when kids grow up without a father.
They can't think of anything other than sucking cock.

>>713408572
He didn't mod shit

>>713425179
And Nintendofags can't do anything but

>>713425174
The fact that absolutely no one would fall for that.
>this would be a W for us nintendochads since that would mean even more switch 2 sales since people will have to rebuy the system
Nintendofags don't care about sales.

So is this just tied to device or account? Because one is extremely easy to circumvent and if anything is only being done to promote sales

>>713425119
>another (You)
It's that easy

>>713425213
Are you saying you're a Nintendofag?

>713425284
that was so bad you don't deserve a you

>>713425259
it locks down all the games you purchased with a update you can't get

>>713425119
It's kind of sad when you think about it isn't it. They can't even handle the idea of someone shitting on Sony.

>>713406990 (OP)
as much i hate Nintendo i must say that this shit was done by Microsoft for the 360 too back in the days, fuck Nintendo anyway.

>>713425259
Device. The guy screenshotted in OP bought a second Switch 2 and could use that and his Switch 1 just fine.

>>713425259
It's a device internet ban. Not an account ban, at least for cases so far

>>713425239
>The fact that absolutely no one would fall for that.
People buy fake gba pokeshit cartridges all the time

>Nintendofags don't care about sales.
LOL
They unironically got upset when sony updated ps2 sale numbers. They're the only fambase autistic and cultist enough to care about sales numbers

>>713425174
>>713425239
>Nintendofags don't care about sales.
This, the only people who cared about switch 2 sales were snoys, who went from cope to seethe once the numbers dropped.

>>713406990 (OP)
>visit a store with your dog
>the store has a sign saying "no dogs"
>get kicked out
WOOOW

>>713425391
>store kills your dog

>>713425447
>you can still play the games you own, aka, you can still walk the dog elsewhere
ngmi

>>713425375
>Scalpers left bagholding for 700,000 consoles
holy fuck this is hilarious

>94 (You)s
thank you and good night

>>713407041
>miggers btfo
is this an insult against the Mikoyan-Gurevich Design Bureau?

>>713425467
>update required

>>713425346
>People buy fake gba pokeshit cartridges all the time
Yeah because they're designed to look exactly like the cart. The MiG has a chunk taken out of it for the sd card and there's no way to hide that.
>They unironically got upset when sony updated ps2 sale numbers.
Anon, the sonyfags were upset by that everyone else laughed at Sony's desperation.

>>713417995
you are retarded for thinking this is a good analogy. The switch didn't brick itself due to a bug, nintendo shut it down because they don't want you to do as you please.

>>713425490
>update required
>3 options
>update, cancel, play anyway
>click play anyway
WOW! I hacked the system!

>>713425541
>required

>>713425507
It actually works pretty well since the point is that it became unusable as a result of your own actions.

>>713425571
*nintendo's actions

>>713425330
>>713425332
I mean surely everybody can see why this is being done. It's ruthlessly capitalistic in many ways. Nintendo is really giving Disney a run for their money here. I wonder if there will be a controversy in the near future of people purposefully soft bricking devices to spite Nintendo. The fact it's only device bound is enough proof of what this is all about. It isn't about protecting their IP it's about more numbers with protecting their IP as a side effect.

>>713425562
There are no required patches on Nintendo systems.

>>713423063
>you can play the games you paid for.
Unless you bought them off the online store which you can't access anymore.

>>713425617
after you get banned you cannot authenticate new games

>>713425615
>I wonder if there will be a controversy in the near future of people purposefully soft bricking devices to spite Nintendo
There's no such thing as "soft bricking". It's either bricked, which means rendered 100% unusable, or it isn't.

>>713425073
>You've even gone as far to say that piracy is legal in some European countries when there isn't a single one that allows it.
NTA but it's true in the sense that there are laws against piracy but they are either very loose (it's fine unless you profit from it) or rarely enforced. Unless you live in Germany of course.

>>713406990 (OP)
Nintendo is so butthurt about piracy they've been investing hard in cloud gaming research, and they're improving their online infrastructure to take the next step into digital only and then cloud only.
And these retards will eat it up.

>>713425654
There is no authentication required for Nintendo games.

>>713425104
false
In order to make sure your game is legit and not a copy, it checks a unique ID for the game. The MIG was obviously a primarily pirate loading cart, and to facilitate that it orders the CPU to drop voltage just enough to skip the ID check, allowing it to load pirated games.
To combat this, the switch 2 monitors the voltage of the CPU and is therefore able to detect a switch 1 era MIG cart.
the modchip constantly halts the CPU, injects it's own boot code, and then as signature verification occurs, it causes a voltage drop. This skips the check

Nintendo won by simply stopping that, and once it detects this voltage manipulation, youre done. It detects the mig and the illegal copy protection violations youre doing.
you realise MIG themselves tell you this

>>713425685
They are in for a rude awakening once cloud shit doesn't work in over half the planet.

>>713425720
every game key cart

>>713425685
If they really wanted to do that they would have moved over to installs and aggressive DRM like Sony and MS.

>>713425674
I mean, considering how the switch 2 functions, the console is essentially bricked then. I said soft bricking because technically it still works, but you can't activate any new games or get any more updates after the fact.

>>713425752
That would be a download, not authentication.

>>713424047
>live in EU
>break rules of some service
>get banned
Ok, now what? How do you get unbanned? Do you have to take them to court or something?

>>713425743
>In order to make sure your game is legit and not a copy
I only use real games.

>>713425562
Name one example of a non-online game that REQUIRES an update.

you cant, but itd be cute to watch you try.

>>713425752
The cart itself is the authentication key. You can still download games if you have an account ban as long as the cart is in the system.

>>713425816
Yes the game I bought I'd like to play please
>shoots dog
Thanks for playing.

>>713425609
>nintendo made me insert a MIG and load a pirated game
okay, and how did they do that?

>>713425775
Anon, considering how the switch 2 functions the console far from bricked considering the system isn't particularly reliant on online features unlike say the Xbox and PS5 where every feature is tied to it.
>but you can't activate any new games
There is no game activation, In the case of keys you wouldn't be able to download them because that requires online but physical games are obviously still 100% playable.
>or get any more updates after the fact.
You can actually transfer patches locally.

>>713425889
>as long as the cart is in the system.
It isn't.

>>713425615
so why didnt you complain when sony or microsoft did the same thing?
the 360 would do literally the same thing to you if they detected you cracked it, only they were significantly less good at checking back then

>>713425902
You bought a digital only game to use on a system that's banned.
You shot your own dog in this instance.

>>713425953
That's literally how they work. They're completely detached from the Nintendo Switch Online service.

>>713425921
>and load a pirated game
Never happened.

>>713425971
Because I was a kid and didn't give af about muh rights

>>713425991
>You bought a digital only game to use on a system that's banned.
I bought it before it was banned. Same as the dog.

>>713425647
your account is still valid, the switch isnt, so you can use another device and redownload anygame and with the new game key thing you can even use a totally different system to hotseat it onto the 'bricked' one.
Either way, your account is fine so if it is that big of a deal you can just get a new Switch 2.

You violated the agreement and are barred from their services on the offending device, im sure you can figure out how to get around it anon.

>>713426050
>I bought it before it was banned.
Then if you downloaded it before it was banned it still works because you obviously already have it downloaded.

>>713425971
>so why didnt you complain when sony or microsoft did the same thing?
Its literally the main reason that I switched to Linux. Anyone still using anything Microsoft post 2015 is a huge retard.

>>713425997
It won't let you download without a valid account

>>713426050
NTA but you really, really don't get it do you?

>>713426089
And how are are playing games on Linux?

>>713426123
Don't shoot the dog.

>>713425685
>to take the next step into digital only
Never gonna happen. Nintendo likes retail space, stores and retailers gets a cut, as PS/Xbox keeps losing popularity it's good for Nintendo because they make more money

>>713426084
if it was to prevent le hecking piracy why not deactivate the account and device? Seems purposefully inconsistent. What's stopping hackers from spoofing HID or however it's identified later on?

>>713426112
False, that's only for online license games. Key cards are independent of accounts. Also Nintendo bans systems, not accounts.

>>713407090
thread should have ended here

>>713425571
Your example would be accurate if the table manufacturer showed up at your house and axed it down because you're not allowed to put anvils on it according to him

>>713425852
>I only
>I
haha so thats why youre seething so hard, youre a migfag who lost to nintendo and now you expected sympathy from us because you lost the game.
you brought this on yourself, and have no one to blame but yourself because of that. Should have read the agreements you made, piratefag.

Or at least wait a few months / years until the pirates have actually figured out a guaranteed method thats safe - so again youre retarded for trying this on month 1 like a blind sheep.

You leeroy'd into death before assessing the battle. Its over for you. Admit your folly and move on.

>>713426238
Says nothing about banned accounts/systems.

>>713426150
I simply launch the game from Steam and it just works. Proton really is magic these days. 10 years ago, most of these games would have been borked.

>>713426307
I buy all my games. Try again.

>>713426274
No, it wouldn't make sense then because Nintendo isn't personally taking out your system. You triggered the ban on your own.

>>713426383
Right that's the problem because it's legal to modify your system. Keep up.

>>713426359
You can get banned on steam too.
Better abandon them.

>>713426238
>Also Nintendo bans systems, not accounts.
And that's the problem. The system becomes unable to do anything that depends on the Internet. Some of these fags who had their consoles banned (because they thought they owned the console that Nintendo rented to them lol) need to try playing a game key card on them to see if the console will download the game, or if it will refuse to connect. I don't think Nintendo will block that, because if it does, it will be pushing too far. But it's a possibility.

>>713425938
>You can actually transfer patches locally.
this destroyed the retard in the thread trying to garner sympathy for using their MIG.

>>713425938
>You can actually transfer patches locally.
Where do you download them.

>>713426439
I know they can VAC ban you from certain games, but I've never heard of full account bans.

>>713426383
ok so the tables anvil detector activated and the table blew itself up

>>713426359
huh, I just assumed it was still 10 years ago and linux just fucked your games
maybe ill give it a try if it actually plays your games now.
Wonder if steamOS is going to be a new linux based contender, I mean most of the people not using linux do so from a point of ignorance about it (myself included) or the idea its complicated to get working, steamOS has that steam brand association that people would trust to work for them out of the box

>>713426436
>the problem because it's legal to modify your system
finish the sentence
>to modify your system ... but not the software owned by nintendo, their copy protection, or their software that facilitates the copy protection
keep up.

>>713426729
>Wonder if steamOS is going to be a new linux based contender
SteamOS is literally just Arch Linux with KDE and Steam preinstalled. You can get the same experience installing Arch or Manjaro instead. This thread is about to hit the bump limit, but >>>/g/ can help you out, especially the /fglt/ threads

>>713426815
>but not the software owned by nintendo, their copy protection, or their software that facilitates the copy protection
untouched

>>713426880
False. Demonstrably so. Hence the ban.
Glad you came to understand this simple concept. Disagree? take them to court then. You wont because we both know you did literally 0 research on how it works

>>713426663
It's called a weight limit.

>>713427360
No you stupid retard. I have already explained it to you but you're still not capable of grasping it. The table can handle the anvil just fine, it's the will of the manufacturer that destroys the table.

>>713407843
This, I actually bought a broken switch one and the snipperclippers (daughter and I love it) so I'm morally free

>>713427502
>it's the will of the manufacturer that destroys the table.
Except the manufacturer didn't personally go and break it. That's the point and why your whole axe thing doesn't work.
You thought you could do something that you actually couldn't and as a result that thing no longer works properly.

You're the one who damaged it.

>>713427723
>Except the manufacturer didn't personally go and break it.
the anvil detector (implemented by the manufacturer) blew it up. Not physics (a technical bug)

>>713426050
>buy dog
>hire guy to shoot dog
>guy shoots dog
>blame dog seller because the dog is dead now

>>713427890
In reality it's the weight limit (determined by the materials and construction of the table) that determines if the table can hold the anvil.
If the table breaks because you put something over that limit on it that's on you.

>>713425070
Unless you can host your own servers or join private ones, which I'll grant is not as frequent as I'd like it to be, then there's no problem.
But that's a slightly different topic.

>>713425073
>when there isn't a single one that allows it.
Hungary.
Criminal Code 385 ; 5
It is outright legal to pirate for personal use.
You're free to check.
Can't speak for others cause I didn't read neighbouring countries' laws as diligently, but I wouldn't be surprised if other soviet contries had the same.

>>713427723
>You're the one who damaged it.
The most accurate explanation would be: "you used your property in a way that the corporation that sold it to you does not approve of (even though you did not do anything illegal), and as a result, this corporation activated a remote signal that rendered your property virtually useless, since it is overly dependent on online services".
The Nintendo Switch 2 is on the same level as those smart juice machines that were widely considered scams despite not doing anything illegal. But Nintendo's name is respected, so no one will point the finger at them for what they are, and when they do, an army of bootlickers will rise up to defend the multibillion-dollar corporation and its right to use technology to scam consumers.

>>713428126
This is the last time I will reply to you because you're obviously underage or retarded.
I didn't put anything above the weight limit on the table. The switch would have been just fine if it was not for nintendos interference that says "you're not allowed to put anvils on this table".
The switch is capable of running custom os. The table is capable of holding an anvil. The problem is that Nintendo doesn't want me to have this software, and the table manufacturer doesn't want me to have anvils on it. This is why your table breaks down due to weight analogy is nonsensical.

>>713428358
>I didn't put anything above the weight limit on the table
You did, you put an anvil on it. The table wasn't designed for an anvil.
That's the point of the analogy anon. You need to understand that your actions have consequences.

>>713428358
>The switch would have been just fine if it was not for nintendos interference that says "you're not allowed to put anvils on this table".
That's the point anon, just like the table wasn't designed to hold the anvil, the switch 2 wasn't designed to allow you to play pirated software.
>The switch is capable of running custom os
It is, but a custom os obviously involves modifying the software which isn't legal.

You really are dense aren't you.

>>713426274
You know the original analogy was the table breaking from the weight, right?

How is this different from getting banned from an online game for saying nigger?