Thread 713412318

Thoughts on these games?

>>713412318 (OP)
Good but they are far too similar, you get bored

First one is okay, gameplay quickly gets repetitive as fuck even if you don't go for 100% completion. Doc Ock is great.
The others are shit.

>>713412318 (OP)
mid midd and middy

>>713412318 (OP)
Discount Arkham games.

>>713412318 (OP)
First one was the best albeit very repetitive. Miles and 2 are just corporate slop

>>713412525
>replace every character’s face
>all of them are worse
WHY?

>>713412318 (OP)
the good, the bad and the flop

>>713412318 (OP)
1st is good but swinging is way too dumbed down from old spidey games and is piss easy even on hardest
2nd improved on basically everything but barely a sequel
haven't played 3rd yet but I'm guessing it's more of the same shit with symbiotes
just make a remastered web of shadows you dumb fucks

>>713412318 (OP)
We can't like them because they're woke

Ugly art direction
Ugly graphics
Ugly characters
Terrible stealth gameplay
Pozzed to the brim
Yeah, they’re pretty awful games. Mogged hard by the arkham series.

>>713412318 (OP)
Better than Arkham games

>>713412525
why 2018 looks like mid dakota johnson instead of the true real super model mj?

>>713412318 (OP)
The writing gets worse and worse with each new one. The Wolverine leaks are heartbreaking

>>713413030
The writing in Miles Morales was the worst.

>>713412318 (OP)
I liked the first one but never played the others desu

>>713412318 (OP)
The first one is good and I don't care to play any of the others because Miles sucks

>>713413061
SM2 was worse. It butchered Kraven's Last Hunt and Venom simultaneously, cut a bunch of content out to repackage it as a DLC (which hopefully got axed) and had Miles and MJ as the ultimate mary-sue's while everyone shat on Peter. Not to mention the whore on the radio

>>713412830
Great game. It’s a shame so few people played it and the series regressed in scope.

>>713412791
>Kirsten Dunst
>supermodel

>>713412318 (OP)
Why do people pretend miles morales is a game instead of dlc?

>>713413273
You can play it separately

>>713413273
My steam says 22 hours for miles morales and I got 100% achievements
That's too long to be considered a DLC (inb4 hurr soulsslop erdtree that an outlier) but also on the short side for open world style
So I just consider it a short game

>>713413516
>22 hours for miles morales
Jesus, that's 2 more than it took to get the plat for SM2

>>713412318 (OP)
i played the first one
new york looks cool and it's fun to swing around in
combat is alright

>>713413180
This shit is simply the worst to me.
It's ridiculous.

boring super long social segments with "epic" spidey "humour"

>>713412318 (OP)
Very repetitive I could see that in the first 2 hours and Peter's face change killed it for me

>>713413782
It's actually probably around 18-19 hours for 100% because I remembered just swinging around after I beat it, it's been a while
it's short as fuck considering one of the achievements is just beating it on NG+
I had fun tho

>>713414103
>Spiderman?

>>713412318 (OP)
I've only played the first one. It was fantastic outside of the shit where you're not Spider-Man. From what I've heard, not only did they fix this in the sequel, they chose to instead double down on that time wasting garbage.
Combine that with my distaste for the character of Miles Morales, and we've got a dead series.

>>713414103
how long until amerimutts turn superman into a nigger?

>>713413030
>The Wolverine leaks are heartbreaking
Given that the game is completely MIA nearly two years after the release of Spider-Man 2, I'm at least partially inclined to believe that the tepid response to 2 and the reactions the leak generated has led to a massive retooling for the Wolverine game.

He's going to be the final villain of Spider-Man 3.

>>713414495
You joke but it already happened.
>Val-Zod

>>713414712
I wasn't joking, I would honestly not be surprised if they gradually turn all of the classic American superheroes into niggers (villains will all be ypeepo)

>>713414712
In that weird spinning their wheels period between Snyder and James Gunn being the creative leads of the DC movies, they were really trying to get a Val-Zod movie with Michael B. Jordan off the ground.

>>713414504
Realistically what would they even try changing? Giving it bloodier combat? Less walky/talky shit?
They doubled down on playable MJ in Spidey 2 after people complained about her.

>>713415216
>They doubled down on playable MJ in Spidey 2 after people complained about her
Yeah and it flopped hard enough to kill all the plans they had for DLC and a MP Spider-Man game. Or at the very least, it didn't seem to sell any better than the first despite having a budget thrice as big. Insomniac probably figured they're gonna need to rethink Wolverine if they want it to do well lest Sony shuts them down.

Boring, sterile, but has bits that are enjoyable. Really the perfect compliment to the MCU.
It's clear Rocksteady and WB games do not have it anymore but it's funny how the Arkham series is visually distinct and has it's own, but flawed, worldbuilding. Insomniac Spider-Man just feels like MCU except they go a little bit more into the villains. I still can't believe that they decided Peter didn't look like a generic white twink, so they changed his appearance. What a bizarre choice. Nobody was bitching about his former appearance.

>>713415361
Yeah but how would they actually try to fix Wolverine? Good luck trying to improve the art or writing when the people in charge of those are so stubborn/spiteful.

>>713415624
No clue, they're likely trying to change what they can but I imagine it's a lost cause. I got my own ideas, but I'm too white and male to work at an AAA studio and my ideas would be considered too regressive.

Are you going to play the Venom game in a few months?

>>713416418
>2029 for a new ratchet
grim
really just been reduced to a new generation tech demo like rift apart

>>713412318 (OP)
First game's fun enough; story's a mess but at least a decently enjoyable one carried by the Doc Ock scenes. The main problem is that gameplay is as deep as a puddle. By the time the story's over, you'll have explored basically all that the game has to offer. There's nothing more to it, but then they decided to give you 3 shitty DLC episodes, a spin-off, and a sequel, and all with progressively worse writing and exactly the same gameplay.

>>713412318 (OP)
I still never revealed the code for the copy that came with my PS5. They seem really garbage

>>713412318 (OP)
First Game
>Pretty good
>Web swinging is pretty fun, combat is discount Arkham but serviceable, gadgets were pretty neat
>Stealth sucked absolute ass
>MJ is shit but not super pervasive, Miles being there at all is shit
>Otherwise plot is pretty decent outside of the DLC
>Side content is also pretty good, the backpacks offer some fun glimpses at Spidey's previous adventures, the secret photo ops are full of fun Marvel stuff
>Costumes have extra bullshit on them for texturing but are otherwise good

Miles's Game
>Dogshit story, but it's Miles so we all expect it
>Gameplay is still pretty fun, trims the fat by having no "civilian moments"
>Costumes are lacking because it's Miles
>Some of the training side stuff is fun but I don't remember much outside of that

Second Game
>Story is even worse, Peter is an incompetent fool for most of the game
>Venom powers are ok I guess, hated how they gutted the other gadgets including impact webs
>Actually removed costumes from the first game, every downloadable suit has been some dogshit from "underground artists" who have never touched a Spider-Man comic in their life
>Miles feels completely pointless outside of showing up Peter
>MJ is even worse than she was in the first game
>All the side missions suck, there are none that involve web swinging which is the only fun part of the game left
>On that note the gliding is really boring and not Spider-Man
>A bunch of villains either reformed or killed off screen
>Fun comic references feel really toned down. The Baxter Building has been added but is completely ignored in the actual game, Peter makes no comment on it (although Miles can do the cringey hand cross thing at the Wakandan embassy)

I am not looking forward to Wolverine or the third game, and I'm glad they cancelled that Spider-Verse game

>>713412494
kek

>>713412683
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1817070/Marvels_SpiderMan_Remastered/

>>713412524
This was what I got from watching game play video. Batman looks like he's int eh world, Spider-Man looks like he's in a world like space with nodes that he can interact with.

Combat looked silly, floaty, and not as visceral.

>>713414347
Wait so they DID fix it in the sequel? Or did you just fuck up that sentence

First game is the best piece of modern Spider-Man media since Raimi's movies, it took all the shit I didn't like about BND era Spider-Man and made it actually work
then they decided to go the Bendis/Camp route of 'WAOW WHAT IF WE PUT MILES IN THE GAME HE'S SO FUCKING COOL DUDE HIS COSTUME IS BETTER THAN MILES HE GETS THE ZIPPY ZAP POWERS AND CAN GO INVISIBLE!!!! HE SHOULD BE SPIDER-MAN!!!!! SUPPORTING CAST? ACTUALLY INTERESTING PERSONALITY? WHO NEEDS THOSE?' along with doubling down on civilian gameplay and it was all over
I still have some sort of hope in my heart that whoever did the writing for the first game will be in creative control again and they've learned from the mistakes of the other two sequels but considering it looks like they want to cram in Silk as a playable character too I'm not very confident

>>713416992
>Miles can do the cringey hand cross thing at the Wakandan embassy
Ugh.

>>713416992
>Wolverine
The old Origins game was great, if you've never played it. Not perfect, but it had a lot of good moments and was like a super extended cut of the movie.

>>713417125
Sorry I got my wires crossed
Camp is actually a decent writer based on his Ultimates stuff
I meant Cody Ziglar
Mayday focused game/film WHEN

>>713412318 (OP)
Basically arkham games

>>713416621
If it isn’t cancelled I expect it will be the last Ratchet game. Seems like they finally want to end the lombax dimension plotline.

MJ was really hard to like. My favorite female character ended up being Sable.

>>713417253
>Mayday focused game/film WHEN
Hopefully never, she's been ruined enough. DeFalco is the only person to ever write her well

>>713417406
I am so fucking tired of multiverse shit. Stop it. Just stop it guys.

The constant shitting on Peter just felt kinda bad. Like he tries harder than anyone else and just gets completely shit on. Which, I dunno, I guess is accurate to the comics, but he just never catches a break. The only "silver lining" if you can even fucking call it that is that he's going on vacation with his bitch of a girlfriend.

>>713417253
No no, you're still right. Camp just wrote the Ultimate Incursion crossover where Miles comes along to the nuUltimate universe and Ultimate Peter and his son spend the issue fawning over how cool and experienced a Spider-Man Miles is in comparison to them.
He really is just Poochie.

>>713417406
>no mayday
>inspired by bnd
>actually invited bnd writers to write for their shitty games
Praying for Insomniac's death

>>713417345
Rift apart ended up actually making a profit but it's fucking peanuts compared to what spider man brings in
100% it's going to be the last considering how long the dev cycle is taking for these superhero slop games and they just don't have time to waste on "okay" profit like ratchet

>>713417095
Fuck up. I hate posts that waste space in the thread to correct a minor mistake when it's clear what the intent was, so I let it be.
Spider-Man

>>713417406
Huh I completely missed this.
>cancelled
KEK

>>713417417
You're technically not wrong but how many other people have actually written May? Jim Krueger (and even then he was writing a bleak future version of May)? Slott? Only two I can think of off the top of my head. One other bloke getting May wrong, who is KNOWN as being a hack Spider-Man writer by anybody who's read anything before 2000 isn't a large track record to work off.
>>713417668
Oh damn, not sure why I doubted myself. The funny part is that issue made it pretty clear to a bunch of fencesitters how bad the Miles shilling is. I wouldn't be so opposed to it if a) they actually did a good job showing it without asspull power ups, b) denigrating Peter and c) treating him as Robin in every new piece of Spider-Man media when Peter is best as a solo character, but they very blatantly push him EVERYWHERE, and it really just does feel like them panicking after that 2010s corporate woke culture trend going "OH FUCK WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BLACK CHARACTERS IN THE FRONT START GLAZING HIM!!!!" It'd be like if Toyotaro wrote some shitty OC donut steel into Super as a sidekick for Goku and then Toei 'loved' it and every piece of Dragon Ball media retroactively included him from the start as the one to surpass Goku. It's obnoxious.

>>713417836
That part was so goddamn kino

>>713417945
It's mainly Slott that ruined her, there was also some digital only story with her written by some random woman that was shit too. And frankly, outside of JMD there's no one at Marvel I'd want to write her anyway.
They'd fuck up her world as well, and almost definitely insert Miles into it. She's a branch from 90s Marvel and she should stay that way

>>713417945
Miles is fucking boring, and it's made worse by how hard he's pushed in almost all Spider-Man stories now despite that. He's just Peter Parker, but black and flawless. It's dull. Except the thing is, plenty of casuals like him BECAUSE he's just Peter Parker but black and flawless. They just see him as more Spider-Man. There's no winning.

>>713418086
You're not wrong, but I just want her to get something good again, same as Miguel and the clones, even if it might be impossible with modern Marvel
I could potentially see a live action May film done by Raimi as his Spider-Man 4 working
>>713418162
Amazes me how many of them seem to think the issue with modern Spider-Man is him not getting any powerups after decades as if his abilities aren't compelling enough both for action focused shots and to drive the plot of a story forward

>>713417668
Allegedly that was majorly Ziglar but who knows. Allowing your name to be printed on the cover of a book that contains pic related is bad enough

>>713414347
I remember failing one of those MJ sequences once and very seriously considering dropping the game entirely.

>>713417701
Tbf it was leaked that Rift Apart cost about 80+ million and made decent profits despite being an early PS5 exclusive w/ the console shortage. SM2 was 315 million w/ Marvel taking 10-20% of their revenue (based of physical or digital sales). Accounting for this, could’ve had almost 4 Ratchet-sized games where they probably would've made similar level of profits combined anyways. The high costs, diminishing returns, the growing superhero fatigue, and aggressive royalties to Marvel is unsustainable and will fuck them over if they have a single flop. They’re better off making smaller scale games like Ratchet games. Bigger isn’t always better.

SM2 felt like a huge disappointment. Almost 3-4 times the budget of SM1 with very little to show for. They made MJ the most unlikable and ugly female character they’ve made in a while. I’m a long time Ratchet fanboy so I’m biased, but at least Rift Apart was a lot of fun and Rivet is a lot more fuckable than MJ (not a furry though).

the most polished slop i ever did see

>>713412318 (OP)
1 was really good but 2 was quite boring despite being near enough the exact same as 1

>>713412318 (OP)
First one is good, other two are shit.

>>713412318 (OP)
Garbage goyslop ubishit
Anyone liking any of these crap should be hunted down and shot in the head on sight

>>713420498
...how else would you do Spider-Man games?

>>713419970
I'm honestly fine if rift apart was their last ratchet game and the next one got cancelled. I say this as a long time fan too but it's clear insomniac is running out of ideas for ratchet, which is why they introduced this multiverse shit with rivet
There's only so many ways to grind on rails or create an interesting shotgun, plus they will never experiment with pure shooters ever again like deadlocked after it got (undeserved) hate so the whole series just feels like it's running out of steam
but at least we got rivet who is cool and I would fuck her furry ass too (also not a furry)

>>713412318 (OP)
The first one was okay and I never played the other two. My biggest problem with Insomniac Spider man games like Gow 2018 is they're extremely forgettable. Playstation exclusives are just extremely forgettable and overrated that's why I wait for them on PC.

>>713412318 (OP)
>can't even turn Symbiote to screw around with the citizens
What a disappointment.
Web of Shadows mogs hard.

>>713417062
>remastered
different game innit
they ruined his face

>>713420623
Having seen the leaks for the next game that was planned in 2029 (idk if it still the plan), it sounds promising, with a more mature tone. There were a couple pages of the script leaked and it looked pretty good. Apparently space travel will be back. They can always introduce some crazy weapons and maybe bring back things like the Plasma Whip, etc. The game doesn’t have to be revolutionary but as long as it’s appealing and not copy and paste, it should be fine.

Also, they also are supposed to develop their own IP going into the 2030s but we will see if it’s some woke slop like Intergalactic.

As for SM2 I can’t think of anything it does better than SM1 aside from traversal and some minor graphical upgrades. Everything else felt like a downgrade, about the same, or generally a trade-off.

The hate for 2 is overblown.

>>713412525
why she so ugly?

>>713413232
she's a cutiepie.

>>713412318 (OP)
I only played the first one. It was... inoffensive and... playable. I was mildly entertained.

>>713412318 (OP)
Miles' mom is hot.

>>713412318 (OP)
Peak. and it proved once again that miles morales earned the title of spider-man harder than peter ever could.

>>713423265
let's be honest both of them don't look like peter parker

>>713423265
I always thought the first face model looked weird anyway, just kind of goofy, but fucking hell, the second face is so damn generic and milquetoast. It makes old goofy big head Pete look miles better in comparison.

Do we have any hope whatsoever?

>>713424095
>Logan x Jean romance
>Mr. Sinister is obsessed with Jean and Logan
>Jean is the founder of the X-Men
It's dead as fuck.

>>713424195
I'm sick and tired of Cyclops erasure but I also hate rightclops

>>713417062
That's the jeet port not Insomniacs game.

>>713424195
>>713424343
Based Cykechads
Justice for Slim

>>713421126
>Apparently space travel will be back.
It’s about damn time. I’ve been waiting for a real sequel to A Crack in Time for 15 years.

Would you have played it?

>>713412318 (OP)
MM > SM > SM2
>Why is MM so high?
Level design. You have less gadgets sure but many of the missions can be finished in both stealth and in combat.
>Why SM2 so low
I cba to finished it. It's just so boring and I have no idea why.

>>713421126
>>As for SM2 I can’t think of anything it does better than SM1 aside from traversal and some minor graphical upgrades
Yeah, that's exactly how I felt which is why I didn't buy it. Some people got really mad at me for saying it looks better gameplay wise, but not 60 dollar better. Dunno why cause it's not like they radically uplifted the combat or made the stealth and/or civilian moments not suck.

>>713428856
No. Spider-Verse is shit

Competently mediocre, not really worth thinking about.

>>713414712
How do they deal with his lips exploding at altitude?

>>713428856
I can't think of many things less "spider-man" than the spiderverse shit. One of Spidey's defining features is being a loner, who keeps doing the 'right thing' even as the world incessantly shits on him for it. Giving him half a dozen buddies to constantly pal it up with as he does so is retarded, it would be a completely different character. Spidey is supposed to have a huge, like, "everything wrong in the world is my responsibility to fix, and everyone who gets close to me gets hurt because of me, so I'll push everyone away" chip on his shoulders.
Closest friend classic Spidey had among crimefighters was probably the Human Torch, and even there they were just barely friendly.

Modern comics are fucking gay and retarded. Imagine taking a medium considered for children and dumbing-it down in order to sell it to an """adult""" audience of manchildren. Psychotic.

>>713419970
Sony got dipshit leaders and I think Microsoft infiltrated Sony, that's why they've been making the same braindead choices Xbox did despite not needing to.

>>713412318 (OP)
Spider-man is pretty cool, but I don't think anybody like the miles dude.

>>713414495
They made him a faggot before they made him black

Only played 1 but this is the impression I got
>shitty Arkham combat
>almost every encounter has brute, gunners, and rocket launchers which were sparsely used in Arkham encounters
>gunners ruin the flow of combat since you have to constantly dodge every couple of hits while they stand 100 feet away
>rocket launchers have cheap homing rockets that will turn 90 degrees in the air to hit you for large amounts of cheap damage
>four different flavors of almost the same exact enemies you’ll be fighting the entire game
>dumbed down web swinging mechanics that almost automate swinging and have essentially no fail state or consequences
>crap stealth mechanics that have little to none visual indicators for visibility and little to none world intractability for varied takedowns
>the most repetitive cookie cutter Ubisoft side content design that mostly equate go to a point on the map to collect thing and including randomly generating combat encounters. Doesn’t even have puzzles sprinkled around to use your gadgets on
>main mission segments are QTE filled set pieces instead of the Zelda dungeons of the Arkham series
>shitty stealth sequences with Miles and MJ and boring as fuck menial “slice of life” filler like sweeping up trash
>story is boring mundane filler about Peter’s everyday life until literally who Mr. Negative takes up most of the narrative and the Sinister Six only showing up for the last 10% of the game for back to back shitty QTE filled boss fights
>pushes fucking Miles Morales and his family in the most shoehorned way possible like anyone gives a shit
All in all I thought it was pretty shit

Woke DEI slop.

>>713417836
Everytime I'm about to shit on capeslop I remember how peak runs like fucking 80's spiderman were.
Dare I say it beats the best shounen has to offer

>>713412318 (OP)
i think they're fun but /v/ doesnt like fun

>>713423887
I think the first one is going for Andrew Garfield and the second one is Tom Holland

there is only one reason you all dont like these games. admit it

>>713432582
I thought classic Spidey and the Fantastic Four got along well enough, but yeah I'm fucking sick of the Spiderverse shit. They should've just stuck with the one movie instead of putting Spider-Negro and Spider-Gwen in everything.

I even like Spider-Gwen on paper but I don't think she's had any good runs. Guess I should just read DeFalco's Spider-Woman run or something.

>>713435681
Sums up a lot of my issues with the game. I’d also say the quirky intentionally awkward writing and the fact Peter is still some down on his luck guy barely making ends meet despite having a STEM degree and career and being an ultra mega genius that could just easily invent something to become insanely rich kind of really grated on me with how boring and unoriginal it was

>>713417202
It was made by Raven Software who are now stuck in CoD mines
There was also a shitty version for the PS2/Wii

>>713424095
zero hope
insomniac cant make good combat

>>713414103
>Miles getting princess-carried by a girl
damn, so progressive

>>713414103
oh I can't wait for when they introduced the real Tinkerer so Miles could act mad and entitled over his OC girlfriend

>>713435681
Didn’t read

>>713412318 (OP)
>1
Great game.
>mm
Glorified DLC featuring snow and another origin story but with a more stupid protagonist (by the end of the game half Manhattan already knew black Spiderman's identity.)
>2
Black Rock propaganda.

>>713412318 (OP)
I ended up really enjoying the first game when I got it on sale for PC. However the sections where you just sneak around (as MJ or as Miles) and learning those were back in bigger number in the second games stopped me from buying it.
Oh also I used a mod to give Peter his more tired older face back.