>the utterly insane and unbelievable story about a western studio not releasing total garbage slop

the expectations in this industry really can't get any lower

Because eastern games are on top time and time again but now no one takes the western industry seriously anymore, unless it's a AAAA 500 trillion dollar game that comes out once every 15 years like GTA or Elder scrolls

>>713418536 (OP)
>>713419701
Western studios used to make the best games ever created. You chinks will never reach the high of western games from the 90s.

The making of this game is actually a very interesting story.
>it's actually a thread of insecure weebs larping as chinkgookcels and japongos because muh west bad
Pass.

>>713419701
>Because eastern games are on top time and time again
japs have been pushing out nothing but shovelware for the past, idk, 5 years at least, koreans know only form but not function and chinks are just good at copying/stealing frome everyone else as usual
Quite literally
>slop, west
;(
>slop, japan
:O
The only good games nowadays are indies/AA and they come from around the globe

>>713422503
fpbp

>>713422241
IT is, but its also funny that every other person dissected and explained it while Shill Up was taking forever to talk about it.

>>713418536 (OP)
It wasn't made by amerimutts so there you go.

>>713422125
> high of western games from the 90s
Like what? Doom and a million Doom clones? A bunch of shitty point and click games? LOL How embarrassing.

> The only good games nowadays are indies/AA and they come from around the globe
Every indie and AA game is just ripping off old Japanese games from the 90s + Dark Souls.

>>713418536 (OP)
>wow I'm such a contrarian look at me e33 is just mid but I won't say it to your faces no I have to imply it with my own threat for attention

what a colossal fucking faggot kill yourself op

just here to post Lune

lets go ahead and bump this thread with some more luneposting

>>713418536 (OP)
>not releasing total garbage slop
but they did.
all turn based games are garbage slop and thats a fact.

Why did japs stop innovating in video games?

>>713418536 (OP)
I’m so fucking sick of this generation glazing 8/10 games

>>713429253
Because Japan always copies what the west does. The west stopped innovating, which means so did they.

>>713429405
What’s a 10 by your metric?

>>713418536 (OP)
Apparently you only need a small group of competent people to make a decent game. Imagine that.

>>713418536 (OP)
something in my gut tells me this will go down as one of the most overrated games of all time

>>713429405
I'd call it a 9/10 personally and it's the most I've enjoyed a new vidya in years tbqh. 3 niggas in a row gods ate.

>>713429253
>Atlus regurgitating press turn for over 20 years
>SE having a crisis so bad they need to remake their entire catalog
>Nintendo stopped caring after 2017
>Capcom lol
>Bandai Namco lol

>>713429576
I’ve never played a 10/10 game. pm64, ff tactics advance, rdr1, vice city, forza motorsport 3. all great games that I would rate highly but they’re not perfect

>>713422623
This frankly, most things made in America are subjected to woke censorship and manipulation though KCD2 has proven the trend wrong by turning their main character into a medieval cockmongler. I hope it doesn't spread though.

>>713426410
Eat cock, Shill Up

Did no one read or watch Logan's Run?

>>713429941
I feel like it’ll join the ranks of Ocarina of Time as a game that’s widely considered to be one of the all time greats, even if it’s not someone’s personal favourites.

>>713422125
Jrpgs were known as the good ones back then. You wouldn't ever just ask for a rpg it has to be a jrpg

>>713418536 (OP)
>Shill Up
lol lmao. This faggot said God of War Ragnarok had his favorite action combat. What a joke

>>713418536 (OP)
>Masterpiece
It is literally just an 8/10 game. This praise makes no sense.

>>713431269
Normalfags believe any game is either shit or a masterpiece.

>>713431447
and you aren’t allowed to criticize the games they like. to them they are perfect and there is no room for improvement

>>713418536 (OP)
I'm sure the game is fine, but the endless glazing of both the game and the devs is getting absurd at this point.
The "little team that could" narrative is also bullshit when they had infinite nepobaby money to work with before even getting a publisher, a fact conveniently skipped over in this video

>>713422503
Chink is actually quite a proponent of spectacle over function. While gook is trying to translate their decades experience of making skinner box to a console market. Both are only propelled because Japs don't give a shit about muh grafixx and quite complacent on their current pace plus Unreal being easily accessible to everyone on the planet. Kind of like how chink make a cool looking peripherals yet it's entirely made from cheap plastic and underneath is just a generic factory produced board with the most obnoxious chinese-accent english speaking over their equally cheaply sourced loudspeaker.

If Grosse Tête doesn't make you shout KINO then this game isn't for you

>>713418536 (OP)
>not releasing total garbage slop
Still waiting

>>713431815
the story drives the gameplay which is objectively the wrong way to design a game. it’s just a fucking movie game to me

>>713431903
Actually, they started by making the gameplay. The inception of the game was literally the creative director saying "I want another turn-based game with some goddamn production value, like how FF used to be"

>>713429253
Consoles are dead in Japan and it's all mobile slop.

>>713431939
bro there’s 7 hours of cutscenes

>shill up
>shills

>>713432082
So just like FF used to be. Kino
Also it's 4 hours

>>713432082
It's 4 hours

>>713418536 (OP)
hey look everyone, a faggot praising a a faggot game!
he also loved goi of soi: fagnacuck btw.

>>713431769
>the endless glazing of both the game and the devs is getting absurd
That's why I'm not getting the game until it's on sale for like $10.

>>713431769
>they had infinite nepobaby money to work with before even getting a publisher
But that's just not true. The game was funded with angel investors in exchange for equity.

>>713431903
>>713432082

>outright lying and misrepresenting the game for no apparent reason
The real question isn't why normies like this game, they will like anything that's popular really. The real question is why this game makes lying mongoloid retards completely lose their minds like it was the second coming of Concord.

>>713426438
I like Sciel better, could you post her instead please?

>>713431269
I thought it was a solid 9/10. It could have had better balancing for the late game, and more fights like the JP square games though.

>>713432459
And what is the identify of those "angel investors"?
The answer may surprise you!

>>713433851
you can go check on linkedIn.
Spoiler : it's not his father or family in general

>>713433419
ok

>>713433980
I hate lipstick

>>713429576
OOT and RE4 (og version ont the remake)

>>713422241
>The making of this game is actually a very interesting story.
It is? TL;DR? I'm not watching a two hour long video on someone else's success, I value my time.

>>713418536 (OP)
Yeah it literally is just that
It's alright I guess but it's telling when consumers are this vocal about industry problems

>>713434019
Dude worked at Ubisoft, wanted to make a turn-based game in the style of the classics, decided it would take too fucking long to rise at Ubisoft and pitch that game, so he made his own studio
Basically got lucky finding the right people for the shit he wanted to make at every opportunity

>>713433993
not my problem.

>>713434019
says, while browsing /v/

>>713434157
>poaching people from Ubisoft and further ruining the studio and its reputation
So he not only made a good game but he's based as well.

>>713434157
How'd he pitch it? Where did he find investors? How'd he build his team?
>>713434161
yeah

>>713434157
>finding the right people for the shit he wanted to make at every opportunity
What a coincidence!

>>713434369
>How'd he pitch it?
I dunno man at some conferences where you pitch games, guy mentioned it but I already forgot
>Where did he find investors?
His dad and some guys who were interested from pitch meetings
>How'd he build his team?
Friend from university, guy from a forum, literally r*ddit , and artstation

>>713434493
>His dad
ah

>>713418536 (OP)
Not gonna watch two hours of shillup dickriding this mid slop, does it mention chinese investment firms balls deep in DEI initiatives?

>>713434157
>Basically got lucky finding the right people
Sandfall's composer my be his biggest find

>>713434575
Dude got his career kickstarted now for sure

>>713429405
you didn't play it
>>713422125
Jap games were always better.

>>713434640
I really wish more devs / corpos did that. There are so many talented nobodys on Soundcloud and Bandcamp yet most developers opt for the bladest shit imaginable.

This game reminds me too much of FFXIII but it's worse in every single way. Not even the combat system is as good or as fun.

>>713434575
Are you sure he's not his cousin or something? Why isn't he part of the game development conspiracy against grassroot and humble JRPGs Japanese developers?

>>713434695
>you didn't play it
Not him but I'll never understand this kind of kneejerk reaction. 8/10 is pretty damn high praise for a game

>>713434809
not an argument. that anon didn't play the game.

>>713434783
You jest but the fact he was co-living with the world-class singer kinda does make it feel like a conspiracy (a little bit)

>>713434768
>This game reminds me too much of FFXIII
Suddenly people are fine with corridors.

>>713434856
>that anon didn't play the game.
What makes you think so?

>>713418536 (OP)
GOTY confirmed

>>713434768
now that's some bait

>>713434938
I always liked the corridors. Fuck normalniggers and their obsession with open world crap

>>713434971
because anyone who actually played the game knows it is indeed worth "glazing"

>>713434938
>>713434989
It's the dungeons, the party setup, the 3-man party, item upgrading, even the monster design is pretty FF inspired though XIII actually has more customization when it comes to character building.
The game is set up with the same 3 arc structure that goes from linear>open ended>a mix too. BUT XIII genuinely does most of it better, even combat's way more frantic and interesting once you get into it

>>713434915
The composer and singer where living together?

>>713434938
Also forgot ffxiii has the most unlikable characters ever, also people are fine with corridors what the fuck are you talking about? Only the most retarded niggers want everything to be open world. At most want stuff like sekiro‘s world but don’t really care about that in my jrpgs.

>>713435161
I enjoyed E33 and I'm looking forward to play FFXIII now if it's as good as you say.

>>713435161
I played like 5 hours of FF13 back in the day and it was just switching your archetype to instantly fill your entire ATB bar, then doing whatever attack does the most break damage (or most damage, once the enemy is staggered)

>>713435167
Not as a couple afaik, more like neighbors

>>713434986
I can see both games being nominated for goty, really hope e33 wins tho because it’s a great game and it would be a huge fuck you to alot of horrible companies

>>713435314
The only flaw in the game is that first part of the game that's more or less a long tutorial. If you want it to be fun don't touch auto battle, there's a setting in the menu for it.

>>713435378
It's going to be hard to compete against a Kojima production though.

>>713435314
Yea from what I heard it takes about 2/3 of the game to flesh out the combat which is like 30+ hours or more

>>713418536 (OP)
Hopefully this is sending the right message to the industry, this followed now by Death Stranding 2, that gamers love games from small dedicated teams with an auteur vision. Hopefully DS2 sells as much as this did and companies get the idea that this is the way to go.

>>713435378
>it would be a huge fuck you to alot of horrible companies
That's how you know it most likely won't win

>>713435446
Yes but e33 does have some star power aswell with va having such big hitters and up and coming stars

>>713435161
>It's the dungeons
xiii really didn't have dungeons. it was all 1 straight line with barely any connected areas.
>the 3-man party
half the game you only play with 2 characters and there are far more games with a 3 man party than just xiii.
>item upgrading
again, its not unique to xiii.
>even the monster design is pretty FF
not really, most of the monsters were designed by a former cirque de solei artist
>XIII actually has more customization when it comes to character building
lol what am I reading.
> linear>open ended>a mix
lol
lmao even.
XIII is linear, one open area, then linear. E33 has a world map with linear levels. It was funny when it was b8 but I think you might genuinely believe what you're typing.

>>713435501
Hell even the fact if it was nominated with be big

>>713418536 (OP)
What I find amusing is it didn't even sell that well, Stellar Blade sold better and on less platforms. The west is so thirsty for a win they are over egging this shit.

>>713435674
E33 sold 3m in 1 month. Stellar blade 3m in a year.

>>713435674
>almost 4 million copies means it didn't even sell that well
what will be your next cope, bro?

>>713435601
You can build any character to be any class in FFXIII with their own unique approaches to each. That's more customization than what you get in E33.
The last third of FFXIII opens up all areas for exploring. You pretty much get a world map. E33 doesn't really have dungeons either and the 2 man party thing is only for like 10 hours at worst.
The way gear works in both games is pretty similar too. That's what I meant.

>>713435795
>The last third of FFXIII opens up all areas for exploring. You pretty much get a world map. E33 doesn't really have dungeons either and the 2 man party thing is only for like 10 hours at worst.
Everything you just said was wrong lol

>>713435674
the west has fallen...Korean girls have won....E33 was the last hope how could this be

>>713435885
play the game lol

>>713435940
>can't even disprove what I said
I sure hope you aren't mistaking X for XIII.

>>713435995
I get it now. You genuinely haven't played XIII and think X/E33 are structured any different. Lol, lmao even.

>>713435674
The goalposts depend on the person. MH Wilds sold 10M in the first month but even after buying and playing, I still haven't gone back to it since the release.

>>713436138
You still haven't disproven what I said lol

>>713418536 (OP)
>Charlie Cox on his role in 'Clair Obscur: Expedition 33'
>Apparently the game is awesome. I'm not a gamer ... I haven't played it. My agent asked me if I wanted to go and do a voiceover ... I was in the studio for 4 hours ... People keep saying 'congratulations' and I feel like a total fraud"
fucking CW capeshit actors lmao WWW even

>>713436218
I'm still laughing about World having way more players than Wilds kek

>>713435446
>Something brand new and inspirational
>vs Sequel
I know what my GOTY is already. DS2 will still be good though.

>>713434716
I wish they would do this for voice actors too, it's always the same fucking select few from LA for every game. Least Ben and Jen careers are on a high.

>>713436365
>inspirational
Yes
>brand new
?

>>713435795
>You pretty much get a world map
How fucking delusional do you have to be to say that, holy shit. If just a slightly bigger empty area in the middle of point A to point B is a world map to you, E33 has dozen of world maps in its dungeons, Monoco's station alone would fit your delusional definition of a world map.

Just fucking look at that shit, even OoT's Hyrule field had more shit happening, even Xenoblade as a fucking Wii game had more going on.

>>713434938
You retards are so desingenous and desperate to shit on this game, you can't even come up with real criticisms of it. Not only are the areas in E33 big as fuck and with winding paths that it becomes annoying the distinguish what is the critical path and what is a path that leads to an optional boss/item, as soon as you get Esquie, especially after he gets the swimming ability, you can actually go do a bunch of optional areas/world bosses if you so desire.

>>713435674
People who compare completely different game types should be beat beaten over the head with a large rock

>>713436476
>brand new
Well they took something from everything and packed it together I guess, that's sort of what I meant. It's a love letter to the classics.

>>713433851
>And what is the identify of those "angel investors"?
Agnes Ruchaud and Eric Schaeffer, board members at Sandfall.

>>713430762
>I've never played a 10/10
Ahh you're one of those

>Only good Western games nowadays are made by Japanophiles

Says it all right there.

>>713418536 (OP)
The reason why so many people like this game is that it does a great job marrying the presentation of the music, art direction, animations, writing, and all the other "unimportant" parts together into a something that is beautiful to look at and listen to. It is presentation value, but not in the BG3 way of "woah, CRPGs can look like that?!"
The game isn't misery porn because the writers wanted to write an Oscar-bait movie but had to settle for writing a video game instead. It still gets some laughs out of you without hamstringing the genuineness and tone with a Marvel quip anytime something happens. The Sirene boss fight is the best example of making a boss fight memorable outside of it's moveset. It honestly feels like this is what "soul" is. The gameplay is also satisfying and offers decent build variety, I didn't use Stendhal and got through the whole game just fine while switching up party/weapon/pictos pretty frequently.
As someone who has it as his GOTY even I'll admit part of the reason I love this game so much is that I haven't experienced a game that gives me these feelings in a long time, and maybe if we didn't completely just abandon this type of authenticity in developing all parts of a game people wouldn't be talking about it this much. But sadly here we are
tl;dr soul

>>713437260
Probably gets all of his opinions from a streamer or is too scared to say what his favorite game is

>>713434349
You cannot poach people from a good organiztion. Ubisoft is a failed studio

>>713437541
>It still gets some laughs out of you without hamstringing the genuineness and tone with a Marvel quip anytime something happens.
Didn't realize how important this was but it's true, it has the earnestness of Japanese games without too much of the over-the-top comedic siliness (pls no bully weebs, it's just not my cup of tea but still leagues better than Marvel quipping)

>>713437542
>what his favorite game is
TLOU2

>>713418536 (OP)
Modern Undertale.
It has a fanbase so annoying I refuse to play the game.

>>713437956

>>713437541
>it does a great job marrying the presentation of the music, art direction, animations, writing, and all the other "unimportant" parts together into a something that is beautiful to look at and listen to. It is presentation value
Pretty much what Edge magazine had to say when they felt the need to add an entire preamble before their review to justify why they found it appropriate to rate it a 10 despite obvious flaws, basically it isn't close to perfect but it's such a sincere expression of an experience the team wanted to tell that it elevates the game.

>>713435427
Well, tutorial or no, it just seemed like a dumb decision to make the ATB irrelevant cause you always fill it fully instantly