Thread 713436051

>Appears in 1 game
>Doesn't even talk
>Hugely popular
Why?

I always thought Starkiller was cooler but his games flopped and he was forgotten.

>>713436051 (OP)
aura

>>713436051 (OP)
he's literally me

>>713436348
You're literally him.

>>713436129
iirc there's an outfit in the last gen versions that looks a lot like Revan (minus the mask)

>>713436051 (OP)
Because HE was perfect.

>>713436129
>but his games flopped
what
1.738 million unit sales of The Force Unleashed across all platforms made it the third best-selling game globally in the third quarter of 2008;[122] as of July 2009, it had sold six million copies.[27] The Force Unleashed was both the fastest-selling Star Wars game and LucasArts' fastest-selling game
It was the second one that underperformed, not the first

>>713436051 (OP)
It's a good game, and the plot twist was pretty good too.

Badass old ladies

>>713436051 (OP)
>>Doesn't even talk
what? are you confusing not having a VA with him not having dialog?

https://youtu.be/p82vauAdgv8?si=rd__e_Ce5fMFA0oU
This is dead, right?

>>713436051 (OP)
>Why?
Because the player embodies him and thus projects a character of his own making, if not themselves directly, onto him. This creates an emotional attachment.

I want to get Mission Vao pregnant by the way

>>713437228
No. My best guess is Saber Interactive is making 3d assets for the game while trying to figure how the fuck they want to adapt it. They probably are presenting pitches to investors and Lucasarts if they aren't already working on the final game. Best case scenario? Release date for Q2 2027

>>713436051 (OP)
Failerald

>>713436051 (OP)
For all the shit it did wrong, I liked the music theme TOR gave him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fdjAqh-MGk

>>713436051 (OP)
what? he literally explains everythign to you

Nobody remembers this guy lol

>>713437306
one day I'm gonna commision a pic of revan and mission being caught by the rest of the crew...

>>713437801
what? he's probably one of the things most people remember about 2

>>713436129
The first one was Kino. Second was trash except for this one part https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZojPeRjAeI

>>713436129
They didn't flop, but TFU2 was made in six months and rushed out the door. The novelizations are excellent.
>>713437228
I wish but probably not, I don't look forward to it killing discussion of the game when it releases. TOR already raped KOTOR 1 and 2 hard.

>>713436051 (OP)
KOTOR 2 built him up into the closest thing the Star Wars universe has to God, Napoleon or Alexander the Great. He wasn't even a character until that game.

>>713438707
Even 1 was pretty clear that Revan was the one who won the Mandalorian Wars, the mastermind behind the Sith Empire and the leading reason all the Jedi got involved and then fell to the Dark Side while Malak was his tag along helper who is only a menace because he's usurped everything Revan built

No yellow saber no buy.

>>713436129
The games were fun but I mean he was just bland LE ANGY NIGGER, Darth Scion was the cooler angry nigger

>>713438707
KOTOR2 added a lot of lore to him, but KOTOR1 did a lot for him with the Kashyyyk star chart computer and what you learn about him from the Rakatan

>>713438707
KOTOR1 pretty much established everything we know about Revan, Avellone merely expanded on those points.

>>713438707
>He wasn't even a character until that game.
wut? are you legit retarded?

I wish we found out what the True Sith were. I figured it was something that would have tied back to the Tales of the Jedi comic and some scions of the sith race were alive in wild space or the unknown regions. Imagine.

>>713436051 (OP)
Is Revan's canon Jedi class specified somewhere?

>>713439882
>That third game would cast you as "the Exile" and allow you to track Revan's path.
"Whether you encounter him or not..." he pauses, wary of spoilers in case the game ever happens in the future. "The idea was that even before the 'modern day' Sith came into being in The Old Republic ... there were even more distant Sith Lords that were considered the true Sith, and the idea that they were still lurking out there in the galaxy waiting for a chance to strike, kind of like the Shadows in Babylon 5, I thought would be a cool finale for that Old Republic trilogy.
>"Part of the fun with designing them," he adds, "was if you have these incredibly powerful Force users and they have their whole hidden domain out in the distant reaches of the galaxy, what would that Sith empire really look like at the hands of these things?
>"If they could shape entire planets or galaxies or nebulas, and they had all these slave races at their disposal, how cool would that be, to go into the heart of darkness and you're the lone Jedi and/or new version of the Sith confronting these guys? What would that be like? I thought that would be pretty epic."

>>713440027
Man we got screwed. Bioware couldn't make something like this and neither could Obsidian anymore.

>>713436051 (OP)
rule of cool.

>>713440027
I will always appreciate the dedication to keeping the Dark Side path open. It'd be so easy when doing a story like that to lock it to Jedi vs. Sith but keeping an Old Sith vs New Sith storyline as well just so you CAN be an asshole is one of the big reasons I love KOTOR.

>>713439882
>>713440027
That's what I thought, that there were still Sith with ties to the ancient lords of Korriban with territory somewhere isolated far from Republic space in the Outer Rim, which is what Revan discovered during the Mandalorian Wars. Swtor almost did a good job of expanding on this, but then they went and really fucked Revan's shit up good.

>>713442096
>good job
In what way exactly? True Sith were supposed to be mighty scholars preparing for the "war of belief" and what we got with TOR was a bunch of psychotic saber jockeys and cackling maniacs.

>>713439954
IIRC it's trooper and jedi guardian
former ties him the most to the republic in his amnesiac phase while the latter are the most militant/militaristic of the jedi

>>713436051 (OP)
Keanu Reeves should voice him in the remake

>>713436051 (OP)
>Hugely popular
false

>>713438707
more proof that obshitian did not understand star wars and just wrote a shitty fanfic

>>713439954
No.

Pre-amnesia Revan was likely a powerful Jedi Consular going by all the information we get about him in the games.
Post-amnesia Revan aka (You) can be anything you want.

>>713436129
>games flopped
Neither flopped though, the first one was the best selling Lucasfilms game at the time, the second sold under expectations because they rushed it out and somehow expected it to sell as well as the first but it still sold well

>>713437801
Being a literal force blackhole is badass.

>>713439954
No he's classless, if you go by swtor he's a male human lightside route who romanced Bastila, but he uses a mix of both light and dark side abilities there and doesn't fit one class

I always thought it was cool when two guys are going at it in melee they have an actual fight with dodges, sword clashes and other choreography, really sad that no other non-action rpg does this besides the sequel

what went so wrong?

>>713443518
>if you go by swtor
Sane people don't by t*rshit

>>713436129
Its kind of crazy to me how bad star wars has done with games, its such an easy property to monetize at any point during its history they could have just set a game in the high republic era so it doesn't affect the movies or anything Lucas wanted to do and then let players create their own Jedi/Sith OC with some generic story that let you choose your side and they would have been set

>>713443726
Anon asked about canon and that's where Revan's gender and route were canonized

>>713436051 (OP)
>his aesthetic based off a crusading knight crossed with a monk looks badass
>is both shown and demonstrated to be a badass
>is hyped up even more in the sequel by atypical means
>despite all this he has enough flaws to dodge being an outright Mary Sue
>is literally (you)

>>713437228
Hopefully

>>713436051 (OP)
>Doesn't even talk
pic unrelated?
are you talking about Darth Nihilus?

>>713442475
I said almost, Anon. However, what's needed after KotOR 2 is a good villian that works either from a Jedi or Sith perspective, and they achieved that with Tenebrae who was written so it made sense that Revan would see the need to appose him. Just because it didn't fall in line exacly with what was originally rumoured to happen doesn't make it automatically bad.

>>713443645
5v5

>>713443893
>that's where Revan's gender and route were canonized
They were canonized in 2004 way before your shitty MMO, fuck off.

>>713444047
>Nihilus without Flaws
>well written in any way

>>713443023
Given he killed both Mandalore and Yusanis in single combat honour duels and then beat Malak via lightsaber, he was either a guardian or peak muscle wizard. He might have been able to swing it with the Echani, but there’s no way the mandalorians would have respected him just bitch slapping their leader to death with the force

>>713444047
>they achieved that with Tenebrae
Oh yes, they achieved writing a discount Palpatine alright, and then proceeded to make a joke out of him before the "Somehow Palpatine returned" even became a meme.

>>713444124
>ask question
>get an answer
>THAT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>713444259
>Given he killed both Mandalore and Yusanis in single combat honour duels
Nothing in the lore implies the combat was physical or "honorable" in any way, he could make them do a polka dance and then drop a giant boulder on their heads for all we know. In fact, we know nothing about pre-amnesia Revan's physical feats other than the fact he was capable of wielding a single lightsaber (as per his own dreams)
>and then beat Malak via lightsaber
Stun > chop off the jaw. It's not like non-Guardians can't wield lightsabers.
>there’s no way the mandalorians would have respected him just bitch slapping their leader to death with the force
What matters is that he killed their leader, Force or not. And Mandalorians respected his strategical skill first and foremost.

>>713444403
It doesn't count because your answer is factually wrong.

>>713444778
factually revan is swtor is the canon revan, but stay mad and keep calling it my game little schizo

>>713444693
2 makes it clear that they don’t respect the force. You can change their minds by beating the shit out of them, but if Revan had already proved that point they wouldn’t need correcting.

>>713445125
Again, it was never about the Force. Main reason mandos respect Revan is because he stood up to them, brought the Republic army back in shape, went on to gave them a throrough ass-whopping and then humiliated them further by stripping them of their armor and weapons and exiling them. They respect strength, even if they don't understand or respect the Force.

>>713444246
Oh yeah, because the anticlimactic Nihilus fight was well done. Really gets the pulse racing when it turns out the boss is an impotent joke.

>>713444335
How was he a discount Palpatine? Palpatine was a political manilpulator that got hewed down a power shaft 20 years after gaining power. He dreamt of having Tenebrae's reign and power. You tortanic fags are more deranged that Prequel seethers I swear.

>>713436129
>games flopped
The budget for both games in the late 2000s wasnt your AA or AAA 100 to 500 million dollars of crap. They didnt need 10+ million sales and shills to barely break even.

>>713442752
>wins vote to be made into a black series figure when disney was at the height of their trying to erase every EU character in a landslide
>not popular
ok

>>713445050
>factually revan is swtor is the canon revan
Only if your IQ is somewhere between 0 and 1 which is pretty typical for a torfaggot.

>>713446018
>you pointed out a fact
>must be a torfag
its a dead game you are literally arguing with the strawman in your head schizo

>>713437805
like this one?

>>713445824
>Palpatine was a political manilpulator
So was Vitiate, and he got disinterested with his own creation within a century or so. His ultimate master plan ended up being
>lol imma eat up the galaxy and become immortal lmao
Very deep, very engaging.
>He dreamt of having Tenebrae's reign and power.
Palpatine is the pinnacle of Sith strength as per Lucas' own admission, and I rather trust him than you.

>>713446137
None of what you said is a fact.

>Ultimate was probably there when Indomitable was dominated by Ulic Quel-Droma after seriously underestimating him, even after deliberately rigging the duel in his favour
>he was definitely there all through the Sith War because he picks up the Mask of Mand'alor soon after Indomitable dies on Dxun to some random beast
>knowing full well how bullshit Jedi are and losing a war to this one guy he absolutely would not have done anything less than go full out trying to kill Revan
If Revan and Ultimate were ever in personal combat then it's a given that it was the type of fight a near-pure Force user like Consular wouldn't have survived. It would've been a brutal, physical affair.

>>713436129
Starkiller is a marie sue Deviant Art OC who inserts himself into all the most important parts of the lore and story and can beat up all the canon characters and he's teh coolest and always wins and can beat up your dad.

He's fucking pathetic.

>>713437306
Huh, I've never seen this version before.

>>713446619
https://kemono.su/patreon/user/20339269/post/58659518

>>713446586
>near-pure Force user like Consular wouldn't have survived.
You mean, your run-of-the-mill Jedi chump wouldn't survive, and "Revan was power".

>>713446693
No thank you.

>>713436129
>was cooler
he's the most obvious example of an utter try hard "he's so edgy, that makes him cool" super overpowered gary stu I can possibly think of.
also an example of how everything in star wars has to one up whatever came before it
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

>>713446723
Kotor 2 balance issues aside, Light Siders aren't well known for their awesome offensive Force powers and destructive potential.

>>713437801
No one cared who he was when he lost his mask.

>>713446867
>super overpowered gary stu
>dies
/v/ is never going to play games.

>>713446893
It's also heavily implied in K2 that Revan was already up to the neck in the Dark side by the end of the Mandalorian Wars.
>awesome offensive Force powers and destructive potential.
I mean, I can imagine a pretty strong Force Wave blasting anything into bits.

>>713437801
>can drain the life from entire planets
>jobs in a pathetically easy boss fight
They really should have saved dealing with Nihlus for a 3rd game instead of rushing to kill him off because they ran out of budget/dev time.

>>713447250
>jobs in a pathetically easy boss fight
Makes perfect sense if you pay attention to the story.

>>713447332
story can't justify shit gameplay.

>>713447368
>shit gameplay.
That's just both KOTORs in a nutshell, no one plays these games for "gameplay"

The light side of the force is the pathway to many abilities some people would consider... overpowered

>>713447332
I still prefer imagining how powerful he is instead of actually whacking him with a lightsaber.

>>713447250
You realise that the plot of 2 is Kreia manipulating the Exile into taking out the trash, yeah? Exile was the only one who could take care of Nihilus quickly and easily because they're the same sort of Force abomination, so Kreia puts them both on the hunt for the other to see Nihilus dead.

I can't take the dark side playthrough in KOTOR 1. Some choices makes Revan look like so corny and petty,

>>713447829
>Some choices makes Revan look like so corny and petty
Based, I miss when being evil was actually fun (and funny)

>>713447689
Okay. Still wasting an awesome premise for a villain just so Granny Sith can feel a little more smug.

>>713436051 (OP)
Cool design

>>713436051 (OP)
Because i am him

>>713436051 (OP)
Helmet and aura. You can make any character interesting if you just give him a masked face and make him stand around menacingly. See Boba Fett doing literally nothing for all of Empire Strikes Back except standing around and saying 5 threatening lines and instantly becoming a fan favourite.

>>713436051 (OP)
because the game he starred in was babby's first RPG for many normalfags

>>713436129
This guy was lame, DeviantArt Coldsteel the Hedgeheg tier
>he's Darth Vader's secret apprentice but he's actually STRONGER than the Emperor!
>all Force powers are massive anime-tier exaggerations, fucking the power scale up to the point of breaking immersion from the theme
Just terrible, the kind of thing Mexicans enjoy for the same reason they enjoy DBZ: puerile power fantasy schlock.

>>713436129
No one liked him, you didn't even like him anon.

>>713436051 (OP)
Cool armour+ he’s a literal blank slate self-insert.

That’s it.

>>713449136
This. Reven is like if you took the reddit alien and made him menagcing. It adds a whole new dynamic than just "evil man stand around"

Did I post this right? Gonna check the catalog for feedback. Better have my upvoted and/or anti cunny postings or I'm gonna be mad & pretend I won some more.

>>713450013
God damn giga based. I kneel king. Fuck the catalog trannies lol

>>713436129
Starkiller wasn't even cool when his games came out, and I played through the first two FUs in all nighters when I was a teenager.
He was genuinely just too edgy and silly, but the games were fun as fuck