You are not depressed or jaded

Videogames have objectively stagnated in the last 15 years

This terrified me when I was a kid. Now Donkey Kong is for toddlers because Nintendo is on the declines.

finally we have reached the peak and no longer have to be impressed by graphics, now we can start making real art

It's moreso an issue of corporatism rather than vidya as a whole

That's why you turn to indie

>>713449260
I hope you don't honestly believe that

>>713449262
i want a generational leap forwards not backwards lol

Tis funny cause the right image is worse.

>>713449147 (OP)
nice pic, which subreddit did you found this in?

>>713449147 (OP)
Stagnating? Worse, it's regressing.

>>713449254
>This terrified me when I was a kid.
Spongebob_rollercoaster.png

>>713449262
Name 1 good indie game that isnt the same exact soulslike slop or wholesome chungus puzzle game

>>713449260
It's been like this for close to two decades
Where's the art

>>713449576
Ultrakill

>>713449674
Forgot fake retro doomslop

>>713449576
I'd name an indie but you'd move the goalposts and talk about how it's still slop because you boil it down to only one or two minor aspects you dont like regardless of how unique the gameplay is. Kill yourself.

>>713449147 (OP)
Not to defend shitendo, but the top is one brand new game to another brand new game while the bottom is literally just backwards compatibility.

>>713449542
>>/xitter/

>>713449801
>the bottom is literally just backwards compatibility
You wish, that's the paid upgrade patch

>>713449775
Deltarune is gay slop

>>713449260
>now we can start making real art
This.

And hyrule fields that are larger than my backyard

>>713449382
>>713449576
>Problem
>Solution
>NO SOLUTION, I WANNA HAVE A PROBLEM OKAY??

Link if he Texan

This example doesn't make sense.
Totk on Switch 2 is just a port.

This is like saying Ocarina of Time on N64 and Ocarina of Time on the Zelda GameCube collectors edition disc is a "generational leap". No it's the same N64 game.

>>713449576
Palworld

>>713449147 (OP)
wtf? somehow it looks worse

>>713449147 (OP)
This isn't a revolutionary concept. If you weren't there for the PS3 reveal and the first time we saw Killzone 2 and how the entire gaming community was blown away by it- you just wouldn't get it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj4KnAj8edc

>>713449147 (OP)
Man, i remember being 9 and playing a link to the past... damn, that game was insane. I remember being absolutely amazed at the world map and would spend hours just running around and enjoying the game and the game mechanics, lifting up pots and throwing them at guards and whatever... it was a simpler time, boiz.. a better time.. unless you were east-european, of course, then those times sucked ass...

visuals peaked around 2015-2016
now games looks worse and somehow require even more computing power

>This terrified me when I was a kid.
Because you were a huge pussy, even considering you were a kid.

>>713449262
>corporatism
The idea that the economy should be made up of large corporate groups/unions/other things with the ability to collectively bargain their own contracts and policies is causing games to stagnate?

>>713449538
You know, the humble (cheese)burger is actually the most complete meal you can possibly eat. It has everything, meat, bread, salads n stuff, cheese.. what more could anyone ever possibly want out of a single meal?? The humble burger represent a society so well, in fact, that it inspired the big mac index as an informal way of tracking how the american society's various food industries were doing.

>>713449576
Subnautica

>>713449147 (OP)
the zionist government ruined everything
this stagnation is the result of jews hijacking our destiny and turning our governmental states into their puppets
faggotry
anti racism
trannyism
exploitation of illegals and immigrants
womens rights
all of this has been in service of the zionist state to steal your destiny

>>713449887
I haven't even played undertale, but thanks for proving my point

>>713450026
Man I really hated Lucky from KOTH and Randy from Thats 70s Show. Two real actual Poochies.

>>713449147 (OP)
Gaming has stagnated and consolefags are solely to blame. Wake up white man.

>>713449576
Kenshi

>>713450808
The world really did turn into a story.

>zeldasisters having melties
leave

>>713449734
This board is insufferable

>>713450604
You could axe all of the toppings save for tomatoes (vitamin C) and cheese (calcium) and it's possible to subsist on a burger and fries for every meal for the rest of your life.

The worst thing that in the name of good graphics every game takes 10 years to develop now

>>713452435
Why? Bread is good. Bread is life. Why bother, if you're not going to include the bread?

>>713449262
Indies haven't done a single Halo clone or 3rd GTA clone.

>>713452585
I remember being excited by the Elder scrolls VI teaser...

>>713449147 (OP)
Money and brainpower is all now allocated to niggers

>>713452823
That ain't true and you know it.
Indians aren't black.

>>713449147 (OP)
OOT did not look like that.

Everyone is expecting to see "more ploygons" or "more content" jam packed into a game. The only thing that can really move the industry forward is an unexpected leap in technology. My prediction of the future is some kind of AI overlay/filter that goes overtop of a simple 3D game to give the illusion of near 100% absolute photorealism. So much so that it will even have little zoom zooms saying "damn, I thought that was IRL" Just like when ye olde boomers saw early 3D games and movies. Problem with that is still that it is really only a novelty, and as usual, grafix =/= a good game necessarily, but it would certainly be some interesting new tech for developers to maybe make something cool with.

>>713449260
you'd think so but they're still gonna make a ps6 even though games will look exactly the same if not worse

>>713450343
everyone decided that high contrast and specular maps are BAD for some gay reason
on top of everything having generally shit art direction

>>713450026
RIP Tom Petty

>>713452609
I didnt say cut the bun. Every sandwich needs a bread.

>>713452760
That sure was a while ago, eh?

>>713453502
Yeah, but you didn't specifically mention it, either, so..

>>713449147 (OP)
it was the same 8 (ate) years ago

>>713449576
The Binding of Isaac (alternatively trash issac or Steak).

>>713449576
Spelunky
FTL
ITB

>>713453995
Can we get a Wii U to Switch 2 comparison?

>>713454248
triple the framerate with 0 content again

>>713449147 (OP)
why does /v/ always do damage control threads like this after spamming porn

>>713449147 (OP)
where are games supposed to go though?

>>713453995
Imagine buying anything from nintendo (honorary jews)

>>713454373
post nut clarity

>>713449147 (OP)
Breath of the Wild was good for its time, but they completely dropped the ball after that.

>>713449147 (OP)
When I started playing old games again on a crt I realized I actually love vidya. The modern monitors suck your soul away and make you want to browse 4chan all day. But games on a crt? Play the fuck out of that

>Let Nintendo get away with making a gaiden on the n64
>Get mad when they do it now
"memories"

2016 game

>>713454967
2020 game

Not only the graphics are worse but also the artstyle is getting worse

>>713449919
>And hyrule fields that are larger than my backyard
>people like this genuinely think big empty spaces are what gaming needs
i hope one day you get permanently banned from being involved with the gaming industry in any way

>>713449260
>now we can start making real art
Art died when we went from 2D to 3D. Before 3D, the only way to create the illusion that you were in an interactive world was through art. After 3D, games ceased to be artistic and became technical. Your immersion is no longer caused by an artist, but by mathematical projections.
You could argue that 3D has advanced enough to give artists the ability to express themselves as well as 2D, and that's not entirely wrong, but we know that in practice this isn't happening, and 3D games with high-quality art are the exception.

>>713454854
Majora's Mask literally came out ONE YEAR after OOT. There is a 6 year gap between BotW and TOTK.

>>713452435
>dropping the lettuce and getting zero fiber
Have fun with that

>>713455349
looks like crazy fun

>>713449147 (OP)
And you're retarded for considering a port a fucking generational leap.

>>713449254
>This terrified me when I was a kid.
lol, same here buddy.

>>713455894
What do you need fiber for, though?

>>713455145
>i hope one day you get permanently banned from being involved with the gaming industry in any way
Too bad I'm the president of Nintendo (Japan HQ)

Can you guess which one was released 2 generations ago?

>>713449262
Oh yeah, all those indie consoles are nuts

>>713456691
Left

>>713456691
I'm guessing the one on the right because of the use of bloom.

>>713449147 (OP)
On the first image we have a leap from a detail rich 2d game with lots of little things to do and discover to an empty 3d field that's supposed to be impressive because it's 3d, on the second we have the same game slightly optimized to a newer system. I don't get the comparison, unless the critic here is that the switch 2 upgrade shouldn't cost extra, which is true

>>713456691
left

>>713449147 (OP)
So 15 years ago the games were downgrading on each generation?

>>713450343
left was made by someone who wanted to make a sexy woman in latex
right was made by a cheap laborer who wanted his paycheck

I really hate how everything nintendo makes is so fucking blurry because they refuse to develop for anything that isnt already 10 years out of date

>>713450750
Decisive proof that OP is indeed a faggot.

>>713456691
You can see that the one on the left is more modern, but really, for two generations apart, the difference isn't that big.

>>713456974
>Yawn, only just 1 extra dimension?
Shut up underage

>>713455052
doom eternal looks better in motion because path tracing allows dynamic light effects

The world stagnated
I wonder who is to blame here
Do you know????

>>713456974
>an empty 3d
NO THERE'S A SKULTULLA ON A TREE AND A HOLE WITH A ROOM THAT HAS RUPEES

>>713457697
>yeah the game is empty and boring, BUT IT'S 3D, so it's cool and futuristic
Arrested development mindset

>>713455349
that looks legit more fun than 99% of slop released today

>>713456691
What's the resolution difference, and draw distance difference anon.

>>713457849
Even though I have a conspiratorial mind, I still think the world has stagnated because the first world, mainly the Western world, has aged.
Old people have wisdom, but they no longer have the creative drive of young people.
The golden age of every civilization happens when you have highly skilled and well-educated young men within a rich culture.
The human subspecies capable of creating things of value are all going extinct, with the average age reaching fucking 50 years old. The subspecies with lots of young people today are all too degenerate to create anything of value.

>>713455349
Funny, if an indie tried to make a game like that he'd add neon shit everywhere because 90s XD am right?

>>713449147 (OP)
Top left looks best.

>>713449576
oath in felghana

>>713458217
i said the same thing 15 years ago when i got retro pilled
its amazing of how vastly different and experimental it was decades ago

>>713449576
Underrail

>>713449542
kek

>>713449147 (OP)
>10/10 game,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,5/10 game
>9/10 game,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,9/10 game
Rly is it so bad?

>>713449147 (OP)
There is not another dimension for you to make games.

>>713459530
>from right to left

>>713459734
You're trying to be clever, but the point is the same?

>>713459530
Does neph really think running around in an empty anti-soul fog world activating ubisoft towers and collecting seeds for a golden piece of shit is a 9/10 game?

>>713458961
i got retro-pilled because of my obsession with trying to see how much i can push and old laptop and testing to see what kind of games i could run on it
it introduced a whole new world of games ive never heard of before and was having a blast, so many fun and good retro games that people never heard of are out there
even gzdoom mods/games, its insane
also the laptop in question was a Thinkpad X220

>>713460132
Does anon really think you have to collect seeds and climb towers? That shit is tism screen. Wtf dude do you obsessively collect all the herbs and shit in Tes?

>>713460398
>Wtf dude do you obsessively collect all the herbs and shit in Tes?
Kek have you not noticed how autistic this board is? They 100% open world games like they'd die otherwise

>>713460132
And what does any of that mean in english?

>>713449147 (OP)
>Top left is emulated in 2025 using a bad shader
>Top right is emulated in 2025 using a higher resolution
>Bottom left is emulated in 2025
>Bottom right is emulated in 2025 using shaders
Why?

>>713460398
>Don't collect anything
>Game is finished in 30 minutes
Yea it's not much better

>>713456558
Satisfying poops.

>>713455349
I never understood the appeal of driving games, but this looks fun as fuck and makes me wonder if I was wrong for all these years.

>>713460398
>Does anon really think you have to collect seeds and climb towers?
These two things are absolutely essential in the game. You'll probably want to collect at least 250 seeds to have a comfortable amount of space in your inventory in both Zeldas, and that will likely take around 50 hours of gameplay.
You don't need to (and shouldn't) collect any more seeds after that, unless you're a masochist.

>>713460747
Like, it's all incidental. You just go out and talk to people and get stuff and the game goes on. Like IRL.
>>713460905
I beat Breath of the Wild and I'm playing Tears of the Kingdom right now and I'm just picking up the koroks as I run by them. Other than having to choose whether to drop a weapon, it doesn't make a difference. Who is getting assmad about this shit?

I can't stand this shit because zelda still looks fucking awful. We are no where near the upper limit of grafix but we're not improving.

>>713449147 (OP)
> stagnated
if only, they have gone backwards

>>713449147 (OP)
What a disingenuous picture. A Switch 1 game running a Switch 2 is not a generational leap, even if it is accurate.

>>713449576
Into the Breach
Spark the Electric Jester 3
Rift of the Necrodancer
Zeroranger

>>713449576
Shovel Knight

>>713449147 (OP)


Literally the only major technical advancement in the past 15 years are smart cars and AI. Games are pretty much the same shit

>>713449576

>>713449576
Avernum
Geneforge
Horizon's Gate
Cassette Beasts
Solasta
Project Wingman
Bombrush Cyberfunk

>>713452585

I'd be happy if we go back to PS2 graphics if it meant games came out in 1-2 years again

>>713449254
>Now Donkey Kong is for toddlers
>Now

>>713454716
>still trying this cope

>>713449147 (OP)
It's both.

If you post on here instead of playing those so-called "Good Old Games" from the past then you're one of those jaded faggots who needs a new hobby

1. The talent behind the games industry is largely gone, replaced by a workforce of corporate drones
2. The tech and man power needed to produce the kinds of products the AAA industry wants has been growing more expensive and more unwieldy year by year
3. The focus and goals of the AAA industry have radically changed over the past 15 years with these changes almost exclusively revolving around unsustainable spending in the pursuit of live service cash cows, and focus tested sludge

>>713462720
>and AI
Haha yeah so about that anon...

>>713464139
>he added three phone tier spinoff games and thinks he made a point
lmao

>>713463979
yes now.
it's never had cringe 4kids voice acting like it does now.
that tells you everything you need to know. and holy fuck that direct is unwatchable because of the faggot narrator. they know small toddlers aren't really the ones who watch the directs right?

>>713449254
>Nintendo is on the declines
Good morning, sir!

Hopes for botw3?

>>713464815
>snoy seething again

>>713464139
Haven't played zelda since TP, why did they make another gamecube game in 2025?

>>713449147 (OP)
Graphics don't matter, they never mattered.
Gameplay hasn't stagnated (if you think it does, you only play AAA shit and need to kill yourself)
>You are not depressed or jaded
If you think outer wilds, bg3, elden ring, clair obscur (all recent releases) are all shit, then yes, you are a jaded cunt

I'm 38 years old and as far as I can tell PS3, PS4, and PS5 are the same console. Thank goodness I switched to PC only after PS2.

>>713449147 (OP)
>2d fun game turned into 3d fun game
>3d blurry slop turned into 3d slop
I want off this ride.

>>713450203
>no LE ACKSHULLY autistic rebuttal to this pic
4chan is healing

>>713450574
Dunno, probably not a good idea when there's a handful of corporations that keep merging and acquiring every studio only to shut it down in 2 years, and that hoard IPs that they haven't done anything with in 10+ years.

What the flying fuck do people expect? You can only make shit look so good before it looks fucking unappealing. What matters now is what and how much you can do with physics and shit.

>>713449147 (OP)
as someone old enough to remember this, there is an upside to it - your hardware lasts a fuckload longer and does better with it. There are many reasons why (including moore's law coming close to its end of 'easy' progress , unified hardware and engines, other forms of diminishing progress etc) but there was a time when you could buy a $3000-4000 PC and it barely play next year's games at all, or without major new features. Consoles made sense back in the day when it was the only way to game - while still spending a lot of cash for its era - compared to buying a PC that was massively different hardware and orders of magnitude more expensive.

There are definitely things that have gotten worse from monetization practices, normalfags ruining shit, and NVidia specifically spending years to shitfuck gaming around their proprietary compute favoring cards, but
>it doesn't have the same uplift as SNES to PS1
is sort of a minor issue beccause we've hit a more stable equilibrium. There are still games that push the envelope (ie Star Citizen, in both graphics and mechanics is made with the finest grade immersion autism possible ) but I can't be upset that some anon can play a multiplat on 5 year old GPUs at high settings or whatnot.

>>713465283
you've not missed much then
the only notable releases on playstation since the PS2 has been lazy GTA and gran tourismo rehashes, and literally copy pasting the last of us 5 times

>>713449576
>Shadows of Adam (their new game Quartet is coming out in a month or two)
>CrossCode
>Abathor
>ZeroRanger
>Way of the Passive Fist
There's a fuckload more across all genres.

>focus on graphical fidelity
>forget to hire writers
>nintendo shits out autistic shit like clockwork

Bleak

>>713456691
mk8 was made for the wii u, nintendo's first hd console
it looks hyper realistic because it was the first time they could do that and have it look good
hd isn't a novel concept anymore so studios have to lean into artstyle over simple fidelity

>>713465559
Corporatism and corporatocracy are different things, corporatocracy was the word he should have used as corporatism isn't something the US subscribes to. It's closer in execution to how the nordic countries and fascist societies would do things, have big overarching unions deciding policy in regard to work-hours, minimum wage and other things regarding a certain field.
There's a difference and I just found it funny.

>>713466734
t.

>>713464139
If we're adding non-flagship games, then we'd have to add Link's Awakening DX, Oracle of Seasons/Ages, Four Swords, Four Swords Adventures, Minish Cap, Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, and even the OOT 3d remake if you'd like.

>>713467007
N-no, you can't do this to me!

>>713467168
>coping this much

>>713456691
Neither. Wii U/Switch are the same gen

>>713456691
This is a much better example than the retarded shit OP posted

>>713449147 (OP)
LttP was an infinitely better game than OoT. Only people who grew up on the N64 were wowed by those graphics in 1998, or thought the boring and basic gameplay was any good.

>>713468313
Correct. Most normal people went from the SNES to the PSX because the N64's library was laughable.

>>713449147 (OP)
Alttp looks better

>>713449147 (OP)
as with most things related to technology, i blame India and contractors in general

>>713449147 (OP)
no im pretty sure im depressed and jaded also

>>713470541
this, also couldn't the stagnation of games leave you depressed and jaded as a consequence?

>>713449254
Pauline will be beaten up in the new Game Over

>>713449147 (OP)
>Videogames have objectively stagnated in the last 15 years
Even more evident when the "it" games among kids were Minecraft, Fortnite, and Roblox, and it's still those 3. Hollywood is also full of remakes and sequels. Video games haven't stagnated, our culture has stagnated.

>>713449576
Last Command
Crypt Of The Necrodancer
Katana Zero
ZeroRanger
Intravenous 2
Assault Spy

>>713449147 (OP)
As things reach their point of diminishing returns profit motivated iteration and planned obsolescence replace genuinely meaningful updates to fidelity. Does this satisfy your thirst for thread engagement?

>>713470619
Full circle baybeee