Thread 713449760 - /v/ [Archived: 800 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:40:50 PM No.713449760
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>We can't afford development costs
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:43:19 PM No.713449972
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Try some new avenues of money making, Yoshi
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:46:04 PM No.713450175
>>713449760 (OP)
he's fucking lying again and you troons are falling for it
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:49:43 PM No.713450459
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>>713449760 (OP)
barry won
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:50:48 PM No.713450529
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>>713449760 (OP)
>>713449972
>>713450175
>wowbucks are losing to THIS
OH NO NO NO LOL!
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:50:53 PM No.713450536
>>713449972
Why are black men so gay?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:51:31 PM No.713450581
>>713450529
That's not Sena Bryer
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:53:10 PM No.713450704
>>713450536
When you ain't got one growin' up sometimes you just tryin' to find a daddy, King.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:53:57 PM No.713450768
Look mom I posted it again
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:55:19 PM No.713450880
>>713449760 (OP)
Can't he just sell one of his gay rings?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:56:38 PM No.713450979
This has all been one long-running epic /v/ meme, right? You guys don't ACTUALLY play any fucking MMOs, right?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:58:12 PM No.713451080
>>713450979
/vg/tards spam this place you know their degenerate retarded asses ERP on MMOs all day
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:01:32 PM No.713451370
>>713449760 (OP)
I wonder if 'airing dirty laundry' like this (even if it's something everyone already knows) will lead to any changes going forward. Or if it's just the start of him being excluded from higher echelons of decision making for not being able to consistently deliver infinite profit for static costs.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:13:56 PM No.713452362
Maybe shouldn't have done your graphics update that only moved the game from looking like a PS3 game to a PS4 port of a PS3 game then
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:41:44 PM No.713454787
>>713450459
barry looks more like a final fantasy character then modern final fantasy characters
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:57:38 PM No.713456249
It's pretty crazy how companies still haven't adopted some sort of cognitive test to approve positions in the higher ladder of their structures. Any old retard with shit in his diapers can be a board member.
Anyone. He just needs to be old. That's it.
Square Enix is proof that competence is only required of entry-level hires, not high-ranking positions.
This shit is what kills companies. These assholes need to be in a retirement home not sitting in a board meeting pretending like they have a clue what the fuck is going on.
>Have tools to verify and analyze statistics
>Wipe your ass with it
>Get a full salary plus tip for your failure

It's so weird. What the fuck.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:58:27 PM No.713456317
>>713449760 (OP)
That's what Square gets for focusing on what shareholders and Sony wanted rather than the fans. When the shareholder money dries up, all you have is dying IPs left.

Time again for the Enix side to save their ass. And then once they do, the Square managers take the credit.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:00:12 PM No.713456470
>>713456249
It'd even worse than that. A lot of executives tank their company on purpose. Use the excuse of an IP or physical store locations failing to sell it. Then get fired for ruining the company, activating their golden parachute. They make like 20 million by purposefully running the company into the ground. While they'd have only made 2-4 million by helping it succeed. It's the stupid companies fault for creating this system.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:00:18 PM No.713456476
>>713451370
It wasnโ€™t about cost as in money. It was cost as in time for development. It was explicitly explained but everyone is latching on a discord fan translation to doom about.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:03:14 PM No.713456725
>>713456476
You retard, if you don't have time for development that means you don't have the manpower which means you can't afford the extra developers.
People like you just say shit to defend YoshiP but you say the stupidest fucking shit I hear.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:05:45 PM No.713456930
The cutscenes are garrys mod levels of orientation I don't see what takes 5-9 months
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:06:26 PM No.713456976
>>713456930
Their dev team who knew what they were doing don't work on FF14 anymore.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:13:47 PM No.713457562
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>>713456470
>This is somehow allowed, encouraged, and protected behavior.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:22:22 PM No.713458304
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>welllllllllllllllll it's not really our fault it's square's isnt it?
>don't worry... just stay subscribed, okay gaijin?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:22:54 PM No.713458343
Jesus christ how bad did this game get after endwalker
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:25:21 PM No.713458546
>>713458343
You mean after ARR. All the problems started with Heavensward. The fanbase just kept denying it until it hit critical mass with Endwalker.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:28:48 PM No.713458803
Has Oda been working on DT as lore goblin?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:31:57 PM No.713459048
>>713458343
it'd take more than a sentence to describe, but player count has fallen below shadowbringers's lowest point
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:33:13 PM No.713459160
>>713459048
>shadowbringers low
but I heard shadowbringers was popular, so are they down to stormblood levels?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:33:25 PM No.713459176
>>713458343
How long have you got?
In summary, bad.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:35:29 PM No.713459363
Doing Math, next expansion isn't going to be out until January-February of 2027
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:37:42 PM No.713459574
>>713459160
They're down to Stormblood lows not Shadowbringer lows.
7-8 years of player growth was wiped out by Dawntrail.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:39:08 PM No.713459694
>>713449760 (OP)
This picture makes me laugh every single time
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:39:18 PM No.713459714
>>713459574
Stormblood lows are half the current player numbers.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:41:15 PM No.713459864
>>713459574
Do you think 8.0 will bring people back, when is 8.0 going to release anyway have these announced the Teaser trailer for the next expansion yet?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:42:02 PM No.713459941
>>713459574
>my source?
>some random tranny of course
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:42:53 PM No.713460004
anon thinks these are equal
anon thinks these are equal
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>>713459574
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:45:23 PM No.713460198
>>713459864
Not unless they reveal something special and get rid of their current retarded writer and that localisation girl who is a political activist.
She was key in getting Sena hired for the English dubbing so if she did it once already putting a troon into a main character position she will do it again.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:47:27 PM No.713460343
>>713458304
XIV is the only subscription based mmo I can think of where devs are transparent enough to recommend you to unsubscribe during content droughts if there isn't anything you want to do.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:48:11 PM No.713460396
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>>713460004
>Steam
Yeah you keep posting Steam when people bring up pop numbers I've no doubt it's you who has posted that same screenshot multiple times, where is archive Anon?
Anyway here is the numbers on the entire player/ character base not only Steam.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:49:41 PM No.713460507
>>713460343
No they don't, they say to play other games they don't tell you to unsubscribe. They expect you to stay subbed and before you say
>No they don't you're lying
Housing is proof they expect you to stay subscribed.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:49:44 PM No.713460510
>>713460396
>posted that same screenshot multiple times
this is the first time it's posted
because i literally made it just now
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:52:12 PM No.713460710
>>713460510
Now you can stop posting Steam numbers when the full picture has been posted.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:53:13 PM No.713460793
>>713449760 (OP)
Is being obsessed with this irrelevant nip really all there is to your life?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:55:22 PM No.713460937
lol
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>>713460710
No, because it still applies.
XIV is nowhere near low Stormblood numbers. Hell, it isn't even low Shadowbringers numbers.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:57:38 PM No.713461093
>>713456476
labor isnโ€™t free you absolute mouth breathing, knuckle dragging pavement ape
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:01:46 PM No.713461392
Where did all of that fantasia guzzling limsa pig money go?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:06:29 PM No.713461735
>>713460937
Because you're only posting Steam numbers whereas this is the full population
>>713460396

Ok keep posting Steam numbers I'll keep posting the entire numbers to counter your misinformation.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:09:05 PM No.713461898
>>713461735
Keep crying faggot.
Every day that passes that XIV is still around hurts your asshole.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:10:12 PM No.713461956
>>713461392
XIV is single handedly funding the entirety of square enix they're taking the profits from XIV and using it on stuff other than XIV
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:11:04 PM No.713462030
>>713461956
Like every game company.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:11:37 PM No.713462065
>>713461392
it funded ff16
please enjoy :)
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:12:23 PM No.713462114
>>713461392
Modbeasts stopped buying fantasias when the mod tools expanded and exploded allowing you to change the appearance of your character without having to fanta.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:12:24 PM No.713462115
>worlo shill thread dies
>this one suddenly gets busier

very interesting. i feel like i'm beginning...to notice...
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:12:39 PM No.713462136
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>>713449760 (OP)
>Erm excuse me, do you think you could at least TRY to be kinder to my people...thanks
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:13:26 PM No.713462194
>>713462115
We noticed that several posts ago. The seething anti-xiv shitposters also came back, very curiously.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:14:21 PM No.713462248
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sphene will save the game!
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:15:01 PM No.713462287
When she first appears to the group and trots up to you and apologizes I knew she was a best girl, we need more lalafells, it's a joke to everyone else were the only ones taking it seriously.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:15:32 PM No.713462325
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>>713462114
>mods are now actively cutting into their profits
>still won't ban mods
>wtf why are losing money
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:16:32 PM No.713462396
>>713462248
She's nice.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:17:00 PM No.713462424
>>713460793
This faggot brought him to a breath of fire thread. Like, just unsubscribe, how the fuck are mmotroons so mentally ill?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:17:53 PM No.713462482
all smiles
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>>713462114
>The people in the fantasia goon tomb, the only way FFXIV can have 'whales' now getting it janny style
lmao
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:17:54 PM No.713462484
Why do we have to have a Yoshi-P seethe thread daily?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:18:24 PM No.713462516
>>713449760 (OP)
>big AAA game backed up by snoy
>sold poorly (3 Million in a week which most turnshart can only dream of)
>"oh nono final fantasy bro's it's over"
yea i'm sure the massive cash Playstation has burned for this game is missing in Square's giant vault and now everyone in the company has to starve
why are jrpgfags so insufferable
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:18:38 PM No.713462527
Krile femala but she angry at you.
Replies: >>713462815
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:18:52 PM No.713462542
>>713460343
Yeah! Naoki Yoshida is the only director, designer and producer that has the courage to cut parts of the game to save money!
He's the only virtuous courageous human with the bravery to do what it takes to intentionally remove every singular possible RPG system that might be beneficial to players and aid in expanding a project that's meant to be alive for over 20 years.
What a great director. Totally not the reason the game is dying! He's not part of the board that gets to decide where money is allocated to or anything like that. He's like you and me, just a guy, a gamer, who wants to game!
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:18:52 PM No.713462543
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tfw its joever
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:19:16 PM No.713462568
>>713462325
If they ban mods a lot of people who can't play without them are gonna leave, they could lose even more money
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:19:27 PM No.713462587
>>713462484
Because one dude is obsessed with YoshiP and really can't stop thinking about the man every 5 seconds.
It's more pitiful than anything else at this point.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:19:29 PM No.713462590
>>713462484
>Daily
Hourly lmao. Meanwhile jannies remove real videogame threads
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:20:03 PM No.713462640
i wish i could play on a 3.0 private server
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:20:10 PM No.713462648
yandhiro
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>>713462325
Yes Yoshida is out of touch.
Yoshida was on a show yesterday talking about the game with Hiryoki and another guy, and he was asked how many people do the hard content in the game like Savage and he said it's 27%. Which is true for the Japanese audience of the game but not for NA and not for EU but he made no distinction and continued talking about how they base their content around that rising number. I mean to me this makes so much sense because the rest of us are a very clear afterthought in content consideration if Yoshida's mindset is domestic focused that is looking at the metrics for what the JP player base are doing rather than what everyone world wide is doing.
https://x.com/denfaminicogame/status/1937058217567334744
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:20:32 PM No.713462676
>>713462484
If only it was just once a day
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:20:38 PM No.713462684
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>>713462287

The horned people have been nothing but assholes to my lalaboy, well cirina is kind and Yugiri but the whole tribes thing sucks, Fran was a complete biatch to us and made a remark at our size in the first scene with her.

Only lalafells have been good to me, interestingly both NPC and player, I've grouped with and made friends on whims with so many lalas I cant even count, talls just pet and run like cowards before I can even respond to them.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:21:47 PM No.713462764
It was HER expansion.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:22:27 PM No.713462815
>>713462527
she probably knows a few max height lalas to kick somebodies ass if need be.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:22:29 PM No.713462817
>>713462543
is that a...lalafell? I'M LOSING MY MIND
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:22:42 PM No.713462835
Here we go the YoshiP defenders have turned up not to talk about the game, not to engage in discussion or reply in good faith to posts about the content but to cry that we're criticising the God leader YoshiP, this poor little indie game developer for this tiny little poor game studio. Won't you all stop making fun of this poor, good hearted man?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:23:18 PM No.713462880
>>713462648
Is gookmoot really that big of a deal in japan?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:23:35 PM No.713462903
>>713449760 (OP)
Topkek imagine losing to the wowtroons
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:23:52 PM No.713462917
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>>713462248
I agree
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:24:11 PM No.713462936
lol this retard is pissing because we're not all obsessed with yoship
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:24:17 PM No.713462942
What's the funnest tank?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:24:18 PM No.713462946
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Yoshida has utterly failed. FF16 flopped so hard Square Enix wonโ€™t reveal the sales. They dropped support and said there will be no DLC. He is talking about โ€œIf I were to be firedโ€ฆโ€ in recent articles.

Now he is begging to just be back on the FF14 team because he is in risk of losing it all. The Yoshida cultists have become radio silent because of the embarrassment and shame. Itโ€™s over.

Itโ€™s safe to say Yoshida was over hyped and has no business making mainline Final Fantasy. He just doesnโ€™t have the chops for it. And the Yoshida cultists need to take the L on this and admit FF16, FF14, and Yoshida in general have been a complete failure.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:24:30 PM No.713462965
>he's replying to his own posts
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:25:11 PM No.713463005
>>713462965
thread pruning imminent now that nobody is giving his posts the time of day anymore and he's progressed to the self-replying phase
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:25:13 PM No.713463008
Reminder that this game needs to sink below HW sub numbers for it to not be profitable.
Replies: >>713463119
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:25:14 PM No.713463012
>>713459864
What could 8.0 to bring people back, exactly? Whatever big expansion feature will be pushed back an entire year and be some retread of what they've already done. New jobs don't mean shit because most of them play the same, and I doubt whatever reworks they've talked about will be anywhere close to as substantial as they claim. The story could do a complete 180* and be good again which would be enough for some, but speaking purely gameplay wise they've basically well since exhausted whatever creativity or options they have in the engine nobody knows how to properly code for anymore. They'd have to pull a Legion like WoW did and introduce multiple new systems if you want people to look at an MMO that's had its day.

That said, I honestly believe that it's mostly that FFXIV has a skeleton crew after Endwalker. Did you really think everyone in CBU3 that was put on FFXVI went back to FFXIV when it launched? No fucking way. They're probably working on FFXVII which will be a successor to FFXIV in regards to being a live service online game, although likely not a traditional MMO in this day and age.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:25:32 PM No.713463037
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>>713462942
WAR or GNB
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:25:40 PM No.713463054
>>713462542
>It's dying
Nigga this game is just a visual novel with shitty "gameplay". It's been 10 fucking years, people move on. Imagine making a fucking mmo your entire life and constantly be mad at this visual novel that you probably played for 800 hours
Touch grass, I seriously hope this mmo ends soon so you can finally be free of this drama you tell us every 5 hours
>>713462835
We are literally telling you to uninstall the game and move on. You are never going to get what you want because this is just some shitty mmo some boomer made to make some money, that's it.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:25:45 PM No.713463060
>>713462942
GNB is the only one that still feels like a tank with its own identity.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:25:47 PM No.713463065
>>713462880
He's like internet culture there, although doesn't live there because he's been sued so much kek.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:25:59 PM No.713463079
qrd of the live letter ?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:26:29 PM No.713463119
>>713463008
Then it being ShB numbers is bad news for the doomies.
It'll need to be quartered at least.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:26:31 PM No.713463121
>>713456725
Traditionally that would be the case but considering how much money that SE earns, its very likely a case of them intentionally understaffing the XIV crew.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:26:48 PM No.713463143
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>>713462965
>>713463005
Ironic. Or should I say "the ironing"
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:26:55 PM No.713463148
>>713462936
>People: can you please stop spamming this nip-
>AAAAAAH YOU LOVE YOSHIP
This guy is literally the Handmaid's tale meme
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:27:07 PM No.713463159
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how we feeling
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:27:14 PM No.713463168
>>713462942
Almost all of them are pretty fun, just ignore DRK.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:27:37 PM No.713463193
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It's a Lalafell game.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:27:49 PM No.713463212
>>713463054
Doth protest too much.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:28:15 PM No.713463245
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>>713463159
SMUG!
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:28:24 PM No.713463250
Is the game even more shit now? Give it to me straight, I haven't played since Endwalker ended.
Replies: >>713463358
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:28:36 PM No.713463258
>>713463079
Very milquetoast business as usual with a side of Hrothgar/Viera hats and some changes to Cosmic Exploration and Occult Crescent based on feedback and the shaky promise-ish that they'll have a normal mode for future Occult Crescent instances.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:28:56 PM No.713463278
>>713463054
Reminds me of the drama bleach shippers made and Kubo just said
>It's just a manga
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:29:41 PM No.713463342
>>713463079
chat bubbles.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:29:43 PM No.713463343
>>713450459
Did people actually believe FF would have a chance going into 2024 when Metaphor was a thing?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:29:51 PM No.713463352
>>713463159
Good, actually.
How I feel in the future is going to hinge entirely on what the 7.3 MSQ is like. If it's more like 7.2, or if it's a return to 7.0/7.1 level slop.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:29:54 PM No.713463358
>>713463250
It's better than Endwalker, but people hate it more because Wuk Lamat is a giant shit-stain of a character
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:30:19 PM No.713463393
>>713458343
the game was so watered down it wasn't fun anymore when shadowbringers came out so as soon as the story stopped being good this was bound to happen