What's the best way to get into the Fire Emblem franchise as a beginner? Is it better to play the fantranslations of the originals or the remakes?

>>713463870 (OP)
>the originals
If you want to play some of the worst games of all time, sure.

Only play 3 Houses and make a twitter to be an eternal faggot about it

>>713463870 (OP)
>Pretending to be new so your generals don't get deleted

>>713463870 (OP)
Anything but the GBA games or the first 2 games is fine.

>>713463870 (OP)
Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem for the Nintendo Super Famicom system.

I started with shadow dragon which I didn't like much at the time, but now I really appreciate. It doesn't waste your time with dialogue or endless exposition, it cuts to the chase so it's pretty straightforward. Fire Emblem 7 or 8 (the sacred stones) are probably better entry points. 8 lets you grind your characters up and is pretty forgiving so maybe go with that one.

>>713463870 (OP)
the best way is to play BerwickSaga first. And there JUST SO HAPPENS to be a save file that needs to be continued to be played....

GBA games (FE6-8) are the best place to start IMO. They're simple so it's easy to figure out and then move on to more complex titles. Unfortunately they are lacking some convenient interface features in later games.

Mystery of the Emblem on the snes (FE3) is another possible starting point if you don't mind old games. It's even more basic and easy than the GBA games and slightly clunkier, plus has less character dialogue and such. The first part of it is a remake of FE1 (with some bits removed) and the second part of it is a better sequel. Still, it's a big improvement over playing the NES original.

The DS games are also remakes of FE1 and FE3. They are more accessible due to the interface and two-screen layout, and have various difficulty modes ranging from a complete joke to a real challenge (in the second game). However there is also some complexity that extends beyond difficulty. For example the damage you deal in the old games is a simple attack minus defense calculation, but in the DS games there are various bonuses that depend on the character's weapon mastery and depend on a weapon triangle. This makes the mental math more confusing while you're trying to get the hang of the gameplay. So I generally recommend playing FE3 first then playing the DS games when you're looking for more of a challenge.

>>713463870 (OP)
Depends on how you want to be introduced.
Handhelds are very digestible:
Fates (Conquest for gameplay), Sacred Stones, Awakening, Blazing Blade/Binding Blade (These are connected)
Personal Faves are Radiant Dawn/Path of Radiance.
Three Houses if you want a recent game to start on.
Starting from the original releases to latest can be a slog, would only recommend originals if you get into the series.

>>713463870 (OP)
4chan will be elitist fags about it but Awakening is unironically the best entry point for a newcomer. Eases you in, keeps things simple map-wise but has enough mechanics and customization to keep you engaged, story isn't awful. Fates and New Mystery also have good tutorials, while 7 has one of the worst tutorials in all of vidya.

>>713466973
I can see an argument for birthright but awakening is significantly worse

>>713467903
>Birthright
Could you at least try

>>713468097
it's like awakening except the core battle mechanics are good

>>713463870 (OP)
engage unironically

>>713470384
This. Shits mad fun

>>713463870 (OP)
play Snes version of 1 and 3, then play whatever ones you think look the coolest or most interesting and go down the list from there. my first fe game was me emulating fe6 while screensharing with a friend

Its amazing how ishtar lost all sympathy from me in one convo
>"hey ishtar lets play a game, first to kill one of seliphs men as a sacrifice to loyptr wins"
>"fuck yeah julius let's do it!"
also funny to see arvis be treated like a beaten puppy by julius, he really didn't think things through.

>>713465318
This.

Either that or FE7

>>713473000
Yeah, but... she sexo tho

>>713473000
Ishtar is for taking as a war bride.

>>713463870 (OP)
I started with Ike's game. It's a really good starting point despite contrarians on here hating it for some reason. These are the same "people" who play modern Waifu Emblem so take what they say with a grain of salt.

>>713465318
I was going to say the remake of Mystery... but it really lacks the character of the original.

>>713474143
t. im a faggot

>>713474143
>Waaah, people are being critical about the game I like!
>Must be those subhumans who like X games
You are a bigger faggot than Ike

>>713474804
>subhumans
heheh
nice Tellius reference ;)

Marriage with Marianne!

>>713474761
That's not how t. works you retard

>>713467903
Birthright's story is just as retarded as CQ and the cast is worse.

>>713475120
t. im a retard

STOP PUTTING MY ARMY TO SLEEP YOU FUCKING COWARDSS

>>713475446
*Puts you to sleep*

>>713475272
t. im a subhuman

>>713475446
*Berserk Staffs your best unit.*

>>713463870 (OP)
Here are your options
>FE1
If you tolerate jank, it's still pretty enjoyable to this day. For your own sanity, do not go for a "perfect run".
>FE3
Very good starting point for many reasons. Book 1 is a remake of FE1 but without the jank, houses will gradually teach you important game mechanics and there's enough flexibility in the gameplay to have fun. Book 2 offers a good extra challenge for when you've beaten book 1 as well.
>FE7
Has a tutorial that teaches most mechanics, and is generally pretty fair on everything but the hardest difficulty.
>FE8
As it is a very easy game even on the highest difficulty, you can easily learn the game as you play. You can also play the first few chapters on the easiest difficutly for a rather decent tutorial, but I suggest resetting the entire game to set it back to Hard Mode if you do that. The game is very, very easy.
>FE11
A remake of FE1 but more modernized. Do not pick the hardest difficulty unless you're brave, this game does not fuck around.
>FE13
Actually has a pretty good tutorial and will get you a taste of modern FE mechanics. However, it's either too easy or too hard with its difficulty, hence it can teach you bad habits and not be that enjoyable.
>Fates: Birthright
Basically Awakening but more refined, where setting the game on max difficulty is reasonable for a beginner and where you learn everything there is to know
>Engage
The most recent entry which celebrates the series. The appearance of past characters can act as a good gateway to the other games in the series, but you may have to be careful since this game is both complex and hard.

>>713463870 (OP)
It heavily depends on how you view entering a franchise as. If you are someone that's new to games and thinks you need to understand the core parts of a franchise, like playing Super Mario Bros. to understand what platforming is over something like SMB3 or World, I would say...
>Shadow Dragon NES (not actually that hard to get into)
>Blazing Blade
>Sacred Stones (the best pick, imo. Far from the best game, just the one that is the most beginner friendly)
>Path of Radiance (with speed up on a macro...)
>Awakening (ignore the meta, any foreknowledge of optimal character building will ruin the game for you)
>Fates: Birthright

If you care more about the "feel" of the series over trying to understand what mechanic is actually consistently carried across...
>Genealogy of the Holy War
>Three Houses
>Engage (just accept the Emblems gonna be dumping 'member berries you don't get, and SAVE YOUR GOLD DO NOT INVEST IN COUNTRIES)

And if you just trying to get into tactics games in general...
>XCOM: Enemy Within
>Final Fantasy Tactics
>Tactics Ogre Reborn
>Langrisser II (OG game or I + II remake, avoid Der Langrisser if you care about the sound quality and performance)
>Disgaea 2 PC or Disgaea 5 Complete (5 is the better game but WAY worse story...)
>Shining Force
>Sword of Convallaria (gacha game but have a single-player mode)
>Stella Glow
>Symphony of War: the Nephilim Saga
>Dawnsbury Days
>Baldur's Gate 3

>>713471492

my first game was three houses, that's how I got into the series. then I got engage and loved that too and I went back and played some of the older ones.

Idk if three houses is a good suggestion but it got me into the games so it might work for you if not I recommend emulating awakening cause that was also a good game

I had shannan proc astra with a sleep sword on this fucker and he (thankfully) survived with 1 hitpoint I misplaced the sleep staff

I completely understand the arguments that conquest apologists make in support of the game, and will concede that it has by far the best balanced hard mode in the history of the series, one that forces you to properly engage with its mechanics on a deeper level without being rng dependent or requiring absolute cheese.
However, I don't LIKE fates mechanics, so the arguments always sound to me like they're saying "play this game and you'll win a free lifetime supply of mountain goat piss!"

>>713476128
>liking both Engage and 3H
You're not allowed to do that.

>>713476128
Three Houses has this issue where it really expect you to wikifag even as an experienced FE player, since it often straight up refuses to explain how shit works. Also, 3H will make you do non-SRPG shit for most of your playtime, since it's the most build focused game in the series.
Depending on how much you tolerate that kind of thing, 3H can be fine to horrible as a first game to play to get into FE.

>>713476509
>Also, 3H will make you do non-SRPG shit for most of your playtime,
This is true but not necessarily off-base for most other SRPGs, even for the post-GBA-era Emblems.
Working in the base menu and doing planning is sort of key to these games as they straddle the strategy and tactics lines. 3H definitely goes hard into it (honestly I still believe the performance issues of the monastery takes more time than actually playing in it) and it can be a turn off, but you will just be doing a lot of non-SRPG stuff in your SRPGs as you get deep into this genre. This isn't Age of Empires or Starcraft where the prep phase is part of the game, it is different playing field and systems you just adapt to.

what did IS mean by this?

>>713477184
oh hell no

>>713463870 (OP)
Engage is the only FE worth playing.

>>713477184
The presence of the gay bandit duo makes the game automatically SOVLful

>>713476509
nta but none of that matters as long as you get immersed enough into the game world to tolerate it. Which three houses is likely to do, particularly when it's your first foray into FE and everything is fresh to you. At least that's how it was for me.

>>713477743
life goals

>>713477184
Nigga be fucking other niggas

>>713477184
Dynamic gay duo

No weapon durability, no buy

>>713478737
fine. i'll fix this.

I always like taking the time to train my fire emblem magic shota's into sage, even if anima is usually the weakest of the magic types.

>>713478737
gay
>>713479005
based

>>713479321
>even if anima is usually the weakest of the magic types
I feel like the strongest mage in each game is an anima mage more often than not

>>713479321
>anima the weakest
>not light

>>713479321
who are you talking about? ewan?
merric-like characters are typically good

>>713476412
Camilla is hotter than whatever shitty girl you prefer, so conquest wins again

>>713479325
kys

if you want to get a feel for the series in general
>fe7
>fe8
>fe9

if you want to get a good feel for the newer games
>fe13
>fe14
>fe17

if you want a more unique experience
>fe4
>fe10 (beat fe9 first)
>fe15
>fe16

if you want a challenge
>fe5
>fe6
>fe11
>fe12

if you have nothing better to do
>fe1
>fe3

if you REALLY have nothing better to do
>fe2

>>713479872
Gaiden is the best game in the series though

>>713479872
I was about to say FE9 might not be a great intro because of shit like super-canto and Titania, but new players seeing how busted mounts and jagens are is actually a good thing so never mind

>>713463870 (OP)
I started with FE7 few years ago. It has a separate tutorial campaign that also works as a prologue.

>>713463870 (OP)
FE7 , FE8 or awakening are the best places to start

>>713480615

>>713480464
>AM, SS, VW Edelgard
>Extremely competent villain who pushes the entire continent to the brink in just 5 years despite fighting a war of attrition on two fronts through clever tactics and manipulation of key assets to essentially control proxy sides in a civil war, as to keep all fighting out of her own territory, engaging in the occasional raid to keep morale up and retain some semblance of support amongst her subjects.

>CF Edelgard
>Drooling retard who is only fighting a war on a single front, is constantly getting her shit pushed in with every attack and faces massive losses from successful counterattacks, all so that she can ask "byleth-sama!" to save her and call the playe-I mean, byleth super special awesome amazing every 2 seconds just like fates did with corrin.

Why do Edeltards like CF when it's a borderline character assassination of the character they supposedly like?

>>713480985
it's the only route they played

>>713477452
YUNAKA SEEEEEEX
YUNAKA BREEEEEEED
YUNAKA FUUUUUUUUUCK

>>713477452
smolll

>>713481420
she is into fagado not you faggot

>>713480649
btw. a lot of new art was posted on pixiv

>>713481223
*watched on youtube

ALEAR SEXO!!!

>>713481758
Nice

>>713481993

Annetteflix please

>>713482270
Summer sex

>>713482201
Women on xitter sure like this pairing

>>713482361
What pairings are made for women?
Diamant x Ivy also does that

>>713465318
>painted toenails like Est and Catria
Why does it seem like IS hires the horniest motherfuckers for this game's illustrations sometimes?

time for the ninja rape cave. mostly through the friendship building I've gotten xander/Sylveon up to 1 heart.

>>713482201
Ferdinand deserves better

>>713482519
Is it just because they self-insert as Dorothea and Ivy to fuck their husbando?
Dorothea actually seems tailor made for those kinds of women, but not really Ivy.

>>713482314
Dorothea is a used up, judgemental, bitchy, tumblr bisexual whore that doesn't deserve ferdinand

>>713482359

Creampie sex with the fat Dorothea femanon

>>713482763

>>713482827
>Catherine sees Shamir as her best friend
>Shamir sees Catherine as temporarily useful to get along with and will backstab her without a second thought

FE3 has a lot more shooters nowadays it feels like. Is it really just because of the new translation? The game was perfectly playable even before that.

>>713482314
Leonie X Felix is the superior pairing

>>713482928
I like fe3 but I haven't played it with the new translation

>>713482827
Nel if she queer

when the 3hfag posters started to post, the thread quality immediately dip

>>713482827
Raul is gone, you don’t need to post the repellant anymore

I remember thinking Dorothea might be the Camilla of 3H before the game came out. Holy shit was I off
She's still really hot

>>713482983
>cuckposting

>>713482928
Does it?

>>713482871

Close to finishing 3/12. Only 4, 5, 9, 10, and Revelation left . . . I once started 4 but didn't have the patience for the maps at the time.

>>713482928
Nah. Fandom as a whole has changed.

Remember: Mystery was basically the most popular one in Japan.

>>713482519
Dimitri x Femleth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzupl5IlUUI

>>713483182
The fuck are you talking about?

>>713483176
>thinking that whore might be camilla

>>713483162
God can those swimsuits get any more high cut?

>>713483204
Nice zappy

>>713483239
>faggotry

>>713483353
>a man fucking a woman is faggotry

>>713483353
>The most straight of straight pairings is somehow homosexual
This is your brain of 4chan

>>713482928
Perhaps, though that new "translation" seems to be more a localization. (And not a good one)

>TEACHER, TEACHER!! SYLVAIN IS BULLYING ME!

>>713483429
>>713483434
dimitri will not fuck you faggots

>>713483176
Dorothea is a different kind of hot.

>>713483532
Correct.
He'd fuck my sister though.

>>713483117
Tru

>>713482928
FE3 happened to be slept on outside of Japan, the new translation just boosted its players due to people being curious even if the old translation was arguably better.

Hapi x Ashe x Petra

>>713483685
What makes the new translation so bad?

>>713483346

>>713483239

>>713483452
From what of it I saw back when FE threads had relays it just seemed like it basically what you said, then they admitted to changing one story element, also they broke the Iote shield and they toned down what Tiki says to Marth about her loving him

But I guess it's what the modern FE fanbase wants, good thing the old patch is still around

>>713483532
I literally answered "what pairings are made for women?" The pairing is ridiculously popular with women.

>>713483728
Doesn't it have gameplay bugs or some shit? I remember anons talking about that during the relays.

>>713483760
Correct

>>713483752

>>713483760
Well, yeah, "women" who chose names like "Lilith" prefer Edelgard x Femleth, everyone already knew that.

>>713483291
Look I just didn't expect the pope to be the one to have a pornstar's body and a semi-incestuous obsession with the mc

Fire Emblem, but your steed is a donkey.

>>713483857

>>713483728
It’s a localization. In fact I’m pretty sure it advertises itself as “what if 8-4 localized Mystery as well”

>>713483728
>Gameplay bugs
>Localization dialogue replacing the original dialogue
>Dumb name changes like Shiida becoming Caeda
>Changing shit that didn't need to be changed in general

>>713483963
based don quixote chad

Remember when Fire Emblem had dignity?

>>713484114
Caeda is her official name. Cry about it all you want, but that's the name IS gave her

>>713483227
Oh, wait. I forgot about the other routes and DLC for Three Houses, but I'm not inclined to go back and buy it. Too much time on one game and too little time. Revelation only gets a pass because it's so far removed from when I played the other routes.

>>713482657
put master seals on several characters that might reasonably promote this chapter. gave xander the boots.

>>713484215
FE official names suck.

>>713483947
She does look like your mom...

>>713484215
>Caeda is her official name
Even the localizers pronounce it Shiida because Caeda is not a real fucking name

Caeda would be cuter if she was brown skinned

Al-Caeda

>>713484553
>ike wouldnt fuck this or his sister
what a faggot

>>713484215
IS calls her Shiida in NuEmblems.

>>713484550
And Shiida is?
It's fantasy, mate. Legolas or Bilbo or Gandalf aren't real names either

Caeda is a whore

EDELGARD DON'T LOOK

>>713483761
>They toned down what Tiki says to Marth about her loving him. But I guess it's what the modern FE fanbase wants
And I'll never stop hating that fact

>>713484304
just going to keep him locked in the starting room with a wall of blue units.

>>713484702
Yes, it's a name in nip, in persian and in several other languages. Meanwhile, nobody knows what the fuck a Caeda is, to the point that nobody pronounces it how it's spelled including the localizer scum who made up the name.

>>713484742
>>713484632
>>713484054
>>713483947
>>713483901
>>713483847
oh wow so this is fire emblem

>>713484694
It's Caeda in Engage

>>713484891
having xander wall here. the weak ones will just chip through the wall. I'm worried about the lunge guy but i should be able to burst him down if he ever tries anything. it is a bit worrisome.

>>713485150
Do women really like Ferdinand?

>>713485346
Lmao Xander is fucked idiot

>>713484215
Shiida is also a valid translation, it’s in the PAL versions of Shadow Dragon.

>>713485428
19/38 hp = fucked now? news to me.

It's シーダ.

>>713485048
Yes.

>>713485504
I didn't notice you could still heal him. Pretty sure if they attacked in the right order they may have still been able to kill but AI isn't smart enough to pull that off

Notice that no one can refute me here >>713485249

Here's the reason for the name change btw
>>"While I don't mind changing the character's names at all, Idon't know why they have to change them to this digree, like in that interview i couldn't figure out who were they refering to untill I looked it up."
>>"She was called Shiida in Smash Bros and the European version, why Caeda??(I don't really mind the change itself but i got used to the old one). "
>Names were changed in places (with the dev team's blessing, as always) to provide more consistency between nations in the game. The way the Japanese original was...well, it's hard to explain, but you might liken it to having an O'Connor and a Buttafuoco from the same country. ;p There was no rhyme or reason for a lot of the naming choices. NOA does this kind of fixing-up with every FE game, not just this one. :)
>As for the UK version, I couldn't say for sure, but it looks to me like they reverted to Smash Bros. naming for consistency, but we threw that idea out the window pretty early on when it became obvious that most of the Smash Bros. stuff was translated literally and without a whole lot of context.
So yeah, they changed shit for no reason from the nip by taking advantage of the fact that the devs don't speak english.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/fire-emblem-shadow-dragon-official-thread-of-theyre-not-ponies-theyre-pegasi.343398/page-6#post-14797916

>>713485647
i think the right order of damage lunge then mechanist silver suriken might be able to kill him but i don't trust the AI to see that they generally aren't so good at using abilities.

>>713485813
Your mistake was attacking with him on player phase. If you just let him sit there without taking a debuff, they'd refuse to attack him entirely. They're only attacking now because they can deal damage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFM2h82eSZM

>>713485947
they cannot damage him he is only taking health due to poison strike and stuff. they didn't even attack last turn

>>713483227
>once started 4 but didn't have the patience for the maps at the time
I don't blame you, it's a slow game. I've been playing chapter 2 for a little over an hour and I just got to the start of turn 2.

>>713486064
Normally, if Xander can counter-attack (siegfried/javelin), and they don't deal damage, they just won't attack him so he wouldn't be getting hit by poison strikes either. It's why I basically never let him initiate combats on this map so he's just a mobile light rune.

I want Dimitri to rip off my head and shit down my neck

>>713486205
if i just hit this guy and dance away then he is weakened due to silver shurkien penalty but then xander also doesn't get the personal -2 dmg. i might be able to hit him twice without dying somehow but i need to think about this

Chudmitri would JOB to CHADphram

sloot

what the fuck is his problem

>>713486486
okay i can just kill him. i think afterwards i will need to trade away her hand axe otherwise she will be slow and able to enemy turn herself.

>>713484553
I drew a loli Mia. I might do another one at some point cause her FEH title is very inspirational.
Color https://files.catbox.moe/3k9i35.png
Monochrome https://files.catbox.moe/rm2brk.png
Gonna draw the lolified loli Tiki next.

>>713486761
Do you actually not know?
Spoilers
Lewyn is only alive because Forseti posessed him after he died in the battle of Belhalla. He's not really Lewyn anymore

>>713486849
I just reached end game, in chapter 10 he talks to fee and basically tells her to fuck off and mind her own buisness lmao she got a +5 strength though

>>713486703
Goldmary is a slut in a fun "look at me, everyone, and bask in how perfect I am" kind of way. Much better than some other sluts in this series

HAGmary

>>713486803
why didn't the master ninja attack camilla here?

>>713486997
If he deals no damage and Camilla can counter-attack, he won't

>>713486846
Based drawanon

Which FE boy would breed you?
For me, it's Perceval

>>713486582
>Bitch who dies offscreen in almost every route to random generics
vs
>Chad who singlehandedly bitchslapped Grado as a commando, who escaped a trap set up by the Wyvern Knight General of Grado with only two loyal knights by his side and who managed to kill the emperor of Grado, his son and the legendary Demon King that the son summoned as the commander of a rag tag army
It's no contest

I hope we all agree that FE was best on GBA?

>>713486997
Is this a relay?
You can't just post your own playthrough faggot

>>713486997
wait why am i feeding laslow here? I'm stupid i should be feeding non promotes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ey5Rj0mEjo

>>713487106
Why are you gay?

>>713486846
I want to be her rival

>>713487538
it's his blog

>>713486703
>>713486957
mamamary not a slot!

>>713487546
this will eventually kill him.
>>713487607
so true bestie.
>>713487538
it's (so far) a 1 player relay. you could pick it up and play the next chapter if you so wish.

>>713473000
To be fair THOUGH, those are legitimate combatants at least. Meanwhile she went along with the child hunts the entire time and only magically grew a conscience once the Empire was on the back foot.

>>713487821
if percy misses this then he will have completely killed this samurai without even damaging it himself. even with the 2RN stuff this is bad accuracy.

>>713486924
If Tinny is his daughter, she'll tell him about the abuse and torture Hilda threw on both her and Talitu. It will actually make Lewyn shed tears.

>>713488261
and yes he also missed the killing blow.

>>713488117
Ishtar should be forced to service an endless procession of shotas as penance for her role in the child hunts

>>713488457
onto training a new unit.

Cutesythea

>>713487165
oh no no no shitmitri sissies

>>713488594
I'm just going to heal abuse here to promote elise.

>>713488356
I had azelle father arthur and tinny. Azelle got blessed in gen 1 with multiple defence levelups, he had 20 defence with a shield ring equipped. sadly arthur didn't live up to his father's hardiness to frontline as consistently as azelle could. he does proc wrath though and I like seeing big thoron tomb numbers

>>713486153
Fuck, man. I don't know about this.

Brawl was great. It had a lot of flaws, but it still got a few things right. But the biggest thing that bothered me...
WAS THEY TOOK OUT ROY!
How DARE they remove this manly guy?
>He had TWO kingdoms trying to kill his
>His father suddenly became ill
>His fate is linked with the entire continent
In spite of all this, he
>keeps a level head
>Stays positive
>Does his best with what he's got
>Roy is a BRILLIANT strategist
>bases all of his strategies on preserving every troop
They say the best warriors are the ones that hate war, something Roy does quite nicely.
>守るべきもののために
>負けらてない!

>>713486582
>>713487165
>An actually flawed character versus the single biggest Gary Stu in the entire series
Yeah no shit

FE3 is the Pokemon Gen 2 of Fire Emblem. I will not elaborate on this statement, ponder on it for yourselves.

>>713489091
It has a remake on the DS which is the peak of the series? Yeah that fits.

Citrinne and I having lovey-dovey baby making sekkusu

>>713489217
alcyrst...

>>713463870 (OP)
start with either blazing sword (the one just callled fire emblem on gba), sacred stones, or awakening. Those are the most beginner friendly ones. The first two are on the switch online pass if you have that.

I tend to use fe bros more than waifus in my playthroughs

>>713489217
She looks like a throat goat

>>713488717
after like 20 turns it is done. now back to mozu.

>>713489376
oh this guy has been attacking with his silver shuriken so long he has no attack.

>>713489080
>the single biggest Gary Stu in the entire series
Nobody mentioned Ike though?

Why did they make Shadow Dragon so grotesquely hideous? Was it a joke?

>>713489473
Lack of budget, blame Tellius

>>713489473
No one knows, but SD was definitely the start of IS making continuously questionable artistic choices to this day.

I like the gba games but my favorite combat animations are fe4/5

holy shit dart is insane

>>713489470
oops the green unit ran through when i wasn't thinking.
i just made a save state i will close the emulator and i will continue this later my sister is bored i think she's bothering me.

>>713489472
Ike actually had to get bailed out a couple of times. Meanwhile the Ephriam debuts charging into an enemy castle head on, gets hopelessly surrounded by fucking Valter and still comes out on top.

>>713489473
Tellius flopped so hard Nintendo banned them from making console games ever again but they still wanted the next game to look like it had 3D sprites

>>713489846
looks insanely bad

>>713489846
>Early promoting Dart
What the fuck are you doing, nigger?

>>713489993
no

>>713490039
he likes the stats

>>713489846
>sells your promo item for 25000 gold
Nothin personel kid

>>713465318
Plap the Palla

>>713489846
I used Dart for the meme on my last run, and while he did absolutely mog Hawkeye in STR and SPD, he was pretty weak in the rest of the stats. Definitely not worth blowing a 50k promo item on.

Would you?

>>713465318
The fact that FE3 is so underrated in the west is hilarious given that it was the highest selling Fire Emblem game for so long in Japan.

>>713489080
>the single biggest Gary Stu in the entire series
Nobody mentioned Seliph though?

>>713490383
kill yourself

>hOw dO i GeT iNtO tHiS sErIeS?????
pick up a game and play it. it's not that fucking complicated you retarded faggot.

go back to /pol/ retard

>>713489883
FE8 is a story about Ephraim repeatedly fucking up over and over. He's allowed to be good at war as his one thing he's a total failure

>>713490383
>>713489472
>>713489080
>chad characters BAD
>emasculated cucks GOOD
Fates troons are cancer

>>713490520
yea but which game and which difficulty and what characters should i use??

>>713490594
FE6 Hard and you should use Sophia

>>713463870 (OP)
GBA games, FE7 and 8 are on NSO, they are easy to emulate. And if u really want to play on OG hardware they aren't THAT expensive but still a chunk of moneyz. I suggest sacred stones to start but the other one blazing blade (just called Fire Emblem in the US) isnt bad but has a painful tutorial so if you choose that you gotta get past that annoying barrier. You can prob find a save that beat the game once thus allowing you to skip it. Due keep in mind 100$ saves will prevent you from filling out the support library. If you like completing games urself just keep that in mind

Or you can be crazy like me and buy pic related off ebay and start with Binding Blade, its not as easy to jump into but repo carts are cheaper then the other two official carts

Just putting it out there too story wise you can play anything except Mystery of the Emblem (isnt the worst but I would still play shadow dragon first) Radiant Dawn, Therica 776, and Three Hope (spin off but just putting it out there)

>>713490584
Nobody mentioned Fates, schizo.

>>713490594
the hardest so your retarded ass will get filtered

>>713490561
Bullshit, not once does he need to be bailed out because of his fuckups, he’s always the one doing that.

>>713490647
you fool! you gotta beat the game once to unlock hard

>>713490584
Seliph isn't a chad. His whole character arc is
>omg I will never le live up to be as strong as dad
>conquers entire continent without the slightest bit of adversity

>>713489091
But why? I've played FE1 and FE3 extensively and I enjoy the Book 1 content more on FE1, but FE3 is not nearly as painful to play.
Some of the book 2 maps are rough, I will give you that, but that's kinda Archanea map design in general though.

>>713490323
prolly something to do with never coming out over here

>>713490739
>Seliph isn't a chad
>conquers entire continent without the slightest bit of adversity
pick one

>>713489080
Anyone who uses the feminist cope term "gary stu" is a fucking retard whose opinion is worth less than the diaper my infant son filled earlier today

>>713490739
What do you fucking mean without the slightest bit of adversity? The fact he didn't fuck up and lose his army like Leif did? Dude grew up without his parents and was raised in the shittiest time you could possibly be alive in Jugdral.
He's not just living up to Sigurd, he's living up to being the entire continent's symbol of hope. His character arc is basically becoming what Jugdral needs him to be.

The new word that triggers FE troons is garystu lmao

>>713490730
Ephraim doesn't need to be bailed out because all his consequences are pushed onto other people. His entire character arc is about learning that. There's a whole scene where he returns to Ranais thinking he's a big shot hero but it turns out no one actually wants him back they're only glad they aren't being tortured or exploited anymore after he delivered his entire nation over to the enemy to show off how big his lance is

>>713489217
Is she really that big?

>>713491121
He also gets fucked by Lyon being an enemy that he can't just stab through, causing the loss of the Renais Sacred Stone and losing the chance of saving Lyon that Eirika could've pulled off. His lack of diplomacy skills is also shown with him failing to recruit Selena, as he can't talk her into standing down.

>>713491121
I'd agree with you if 5x didn't try to establish him as the most self-insert strategic genius imaginable.
>Trust me. I don't pick fights I cannot win.
Every time I read that line it makes me physically cringe, and Joshua is my favorite Sacred Stones character.

>>713491012
>Dude grew up without his parents and was raised in the shittiest time you could possibly be alive in Jugdral.
>His character arc is basically becoming what Jugdral needs him to be.
Leif did both of these 100x better. You actually get to feel the struggles he and the people of Thracia are going through during the game. It's Seliph himself who tries to shit on his character arc by saving his ass last second as he continues steamrolling through the Grannvale army. The most FE5 does about it is a slight rewrite of FE4's events at the end to give Leif a consolation prize by letting him be the one to liberate Munster, but Seliph still takes care of everything else. He doesn't even get to fight King Blume.

Ivy

>>713491376
>losing the chance of saving Lyon that Eirika could've pulled off
In her route it's a fucking woman moment where she chooses to trust Lyon and just hands him the Sacred Stone.

FE boat maps are peak

>>713491376
sorry sis but selena was going too hard on her camus archtype so that death was on her, retard.

>>713491467
I agree with you that Leif is a much better character, I just think that saying Seliph is a gary stu is a bit dishonest. I feel like you're doing the reverse of
>old good
>new bad
We certainly should be critical of the older games that everyone regards as sacred cows, but I think this particular criticism is unfounded.

Ephraim route mogs Eirika route in writing so hard it's not even funny
>OMG lemme just give this crucial mcguffin to the bad guy because he pinky promised to not be evil anymore!!!! what could go wrong!!!!

Triangle Strategy > FE

I love my wife, Annette.

>>713491495
In her route she gets screwed by the fact that he's been corrupted by the Demon King, in opposition to the Ephraim route where Lyon managed to stay human. The game can't be anymore clear about this, the twins need each other.

>>713489473
IS was in its ugly phase during the DS era

>Lyon: Tell me, Ephraim: do I look like I've grown stronger? The last time we dueled, I was too weak to test you. Why, I was so weak, I even lost to Eirika...
>Ephraim: ......
>Lyon: I've sacrificed the lives of many good people. I've committed many unforgivable sins. The caring heart I once possessed died long ago... And I've grown stronger because of it. I've grown strong enough to defeat even you, Ephraim.
>Ephraim: ...No, you haven't. You're still no match for me. You were never one for combat. It's not in you. You should never have chosen this path.
>Lyon: ......
>Ephraim: ...... Here I come, Lyon.

>Eirika: Lyon... I hope you're watching. I will defeat the Demon King.
>Fomortiis: Hah, do you really think your blade can hurt me? Cut me and see! If you can even hit me, that is.

you tell me which one you'd rather pick

>>713491641
>Bitches about writing
>Doesn't even get the parallelism between the Eirika and Ephraim routes through Lyon being corrupted or not by the Demon King
(lol

>>713491708
and now you are going harder on the genshit tranime phase meanwhile feeling nostalgic for the DS art.

>>713491757
>A conversation between two friends is more dramatic than a conversation between a human and an unfeeling hellspawn
Woah

>>713491874
thank you for proving my point

>>713491558
Cantor upon ye

Plap the Eirika

I played fe8 eirika route recently and it was lame and gay. I don't care whether lyon "could" be saved, I wanted to kill him for being a wimpy faggot

>>713491384
You're right about him but I just think he's allowed to be. The whole concept of the twins is that they took the Marth/Seliph/Roy model of a great lord who's kind, charismatic and also a great warrior and leader and split it into two parts. Eirika and Ephraim both excel at what they received and are cripplingly poor at what they didn't. If he wasn't a genius tactician and warrior he would legitimately be worthless.

The whole plot is underpinned around the idea that Ephraim appears perfect because he's all these desirable masculine traits that Lyon isn't but in reality, he's horribly flawed and neither of them saw that. Eirika typically makes good choices but doesn't have the power to back then up, but Ephraim literally can't make a single decision that doesn't backfire during the game. The route split is him winning empty victories while Eirika advances the plot until she gets fucked by a military ambush

>>713492021
I hate this faggot artist

>>713491757
Joshua and Cormag are way more interesting side shows then Selena and Duessel though

Any other Gottfried fans here? He's my favorite Fire Emblem character

In my opinion:
On a hacked new 3DS XL if you have one:
Play Blazing Sword
Then play the project Naga translation of Binding Blade
Then play Sacred Stones on Hard Mode
Then play the Project Naga translations of Geneaology of the Holy War and Thracia 776
Then play the fan translation of FE12
Then play Three Houses

Then you can play the rest of the games as you like desu as they are all the least accessible for one reason or another (plot, gameplay, etc).

Call me Karel, Marianne, and Saizo, the way I want to KMS

>>713492096
>The route split is him winning empty victories
Nuh uh, he kills Selena! Oh, she's the general that was the least cause for concern for Renais. Well, what about killing the Emperor? Right, he was a lifeless husk being pupettered by his son like how Monica was. How about him attacking Tirado's castle, that has to have been useful, right? Shit, that one just put Eirika in danger since she walked right into a trap to try to rescue him.
The fuck did he accomplish?

Stuck on which Berserker to keep around.

>>713492605
How is this a question? Keep Geese, you're clearly having fun using him if you're asking

>there are still people here that dont understand that the eirika moment was not only completely in character for eirika but also the best story scene in all of SS
if you read the story, it is a completely logical choice, but it would also be a total character assassination for eirika to do anything else than try to save her friend there. Imagine almost every action you have taken since your father died has been in service of rescuing people and your best friend is dying in front of you literally begging for you to give him the stone so he can save himself (which you know for a fact is actually true) and looking into that friend's dace and saying "nah".
Nah bro you have to die when i could easily save you based on the knowledge that L'rachel just told me one chapter ago and the knowledge that you have used grados stone to cure cancer or whatever in the past. It would be a """"woman moment"""" if i tried to save your life, so just perish dawg.

>>713492804
foid hands typed this post

start with vestaria saga

>>713492804
Don't forget that she was vindicated by her choice being the right one for Ephraim route Lyon instead of going for the kill, since he did actually resist the Demon King's corruption there.

>>713492126
What’s wrong?

>>713463870 (OP)
Play the GBA games. I think the first one has a sneaky subtitle called Sacred Stones. This one is perfect and how I got into the series.

>>713492804
counter point if eirika gave lyon sex none of sacred stones would have happened. ephriam would have to give lyon sex too probably

>>713493041
She would've given him sex but alas, Lyon couldn't stop thinking about Ephraim's dick

>>713493041
Actually, only the spoiler would've made a difference. Lyon got saved from corruption because of Ephraim, not Eirika

>>713484553
Wayu
>>713486846
based anon delivers

>>713492804
>people wonder why we get cinematic slopshit from now on
fe doesnt deserve stories

the reason people shit on Eirika for having a woman moment in her route is because formotiis is a shitty generic JRPG villain
if they didn't make it so retardedly obvious she was being tricked no one would have complained
that's the real reason people prefer the route where you get to see more of Lyon and not just the demon king taking over his body

Dorothea won

I hate women

It's funny how ephraim defeats the full might of the grado military and the later battles are just cleaning up stragglers
obviously in game terms the enemies have higher stats, but with their homeland conquered and supply lines cut they're inconsequential in comparison

>>713493359
Me too

I hate fujos

NEVER trust a woman with an incredibly important and fragile plot device

where's dorosister

It's a woman moment because Eirika is overtly Feminine and naive while Ephraim is autistically masculine.

>>713493359
>>713493478
>>713493520
>>713493527
Why are you gay?

>>713493201
engage makes fe4 look like a fucking masterpiece of story telling, I genuinely felt a bit bad for arvis in chapter 10, dude is a husk of his former self and he recognizes that he fucked up in teaming with the evil cult who he handed the world to through julius. its cathartic that he's the one that gives the old priest dude tyrfing, he's a lot of things but he knows that seliph winning is better for the world than loptyr being reborn

>>713493770
shut up woman

Ephraim doesn't get enough shit over his equivalent man moment honestly
>Oh shit it's Lyon
>Imma ride after him alone without a word to anybody
>OH NO I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S YET ANOTHER TRAP BY LYON THIS IS LIKE THE THIRD TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED

>>713493781
it almost works except they gave him a generic villain speech for his battle quote

>I genuinely felt a bit bad for arvis for trusting the comically evil cult

Sex. Sex with Robin...

>>713494508
To be fair he would've been fine even with them being comically evil if not for the fact that fucking your sister does in fact result in the birth of the anti-christ. Who would've thought that the loptyr were right.

plapping dorosister

>>713491027
It's a retarded cope term for feminists and cucks. "Mary Sue" is gender neutral, and making "gary stu" is an attempt at conceding their point. Corrin is a Mary Sue. Male Corrin doesn't magically cease being a Mary Sue and become a "gary stu".

>>713494487
Arvis at this point is essentially begging for Seliph to kill him. It’s like a medieval suicide by cop.

>>713463870 (OP)
smash brothers. the actual fire emblem games suck ass

>>713494508
I like tear ring saga too...

Dwagons!

Lyon emblem with Gheb as the jaegan

>>713494803
when will FE have a shota dragon?

>>713494640
>Corrin is a Mary Sue
Simply wrong, Fates' story makes it very clear that he's far from that.

>>713494814
There's a Lyon Emblem romhack with playable bosses. I've never actually played it though and don't know who the Jaegan is

>>713463870 (OP)
Marth is the strongest character in smash bros next to meta knight

>>713494707
so true sister

Is Lyn the only non-retarded female Lord in the series?
>Celica
>Eirika
>Micaiah
>Corrin
>Edelgard
>Alear

>>713495004
ceeda bats her eye lashes and gets a million men to sign up for marth's army

>>713495004
>Let's a homeless amnesiac lead her army after they just met.
Nah she's retarded too.

>>713495114
She wasn't planning on having an army she was planning on going for a pleasant stroll

>>713495004
She falls for Eliwood's evil plan and sells out Caelin to return to Sacae without her tribe, so she's pretty retarded.

>>713494994
go to hell demon

>>713463870 (OP)
Play 3 Houses, than retire on top never touching another game again. Im not joking.

>>713465318
This art and other heroes art looks soulless like AI

>>713464080
>Only play 3 Houses and make a twitter to be an eternal faggot about it
This but unironically.

I need to FUCK Veyle

>>713495283
>>713495302
smashie kid diddlers found the thread

>>713495465
it's a gay game

>>713494834
???

>>713493781
Engage is better.
Most people just say FE4 because of the BBQ.
Its enough to kill the cast for retards to soijack and give it best story ever.

>>713495302
IS will sell the fire emblem IP to koei tecmo

Canonically, the strongest character in Fates is Laslow. Take that as you will.

>>713495465
That must be a banger insult in your language but it doesn't translate that well into English champ.

>>713495004
>Is Lyn the only non-retarded female Lord in the series?
Yes, because you can't wet your panties if you don't wear any!

>>713495669
I like the way Fe4 does maps, I like road tiles

>>713495741
go diddle kids mohammed

>>713495725
inshallah brother

>>713495794
They are too big for my taste.

>>713495669
I think FE4'S story is overrate but engage's is literally saturday morning cartoon tier, they're not even comparable

>>713495302
3H got that high due to being at the right place at the right time, and catering/being hyped up by personafags,

>>713495864
Bot

Thinking about it, isnt kind of lame that the final boss of FE4 is technically a book?
Most people treat possesed Julius as just Julius instead of Loptous.
If a Remake happens, would be cool if we could somehow face the actual dragon god.

I wish I was pregnant with a futire FE lord (female)

FE4 is based because it's anti sand people

>>713496020
Except it's the highest rated in the series as well. People just love great banter, look at BG3. OK story, good gameplay, but the banter propelled it to GOTD.
Engage is the counter piont, good in every way but with a banter so cringe it both hurt and flopped.

>>713496131
Mods. Run a tank through that guy's living room.

>The Anti-Engage schizo is here
Shoo, no (you)s for yous

>>713495419
get in line clanne

I'm gonna evolve Lugh

>>713496565
Clanne only fucks two people: Alear by choice and Framme raping him for "experience"

>>713496326

>>713492905
male incel hands typed this... gross

>>713475972
>baldíos gate 3
Huh?

Are we being raided??

It’s been so long

>>713497281
Why FE threads always attract weird people?

>>713496735
Lugh is too fucking strong now
I've gotta place him away from the enemies just so he doesn't counterattack and take all the exp for himself

>>713497775
I seriously don't get it. It's a rather milquetoast series compared to other schizo bait like danganronpa.

>>713497775
it's a bot spamming the whole board

>>713497775
>>713497962
Yeah it's fucking bizarre and it's not just /v/ threads. This is the best FE community by miles that I've seen.
>YouTubers divided between creepy trannies and vaguely white nationalist sex offenders
>Major specialty forums are filled with autists that each have some different, very specific preference on how to enjoy the game and push out people who disagree with their particular brand
>All the public social network communities are filled with puritan zoomers
>Any smaller private community is absolutely schizo central and you're rolling dice on being flagged as part of an FBI watch list when some weird dude grooms the teens on the server
Meanwhile the series is just, blue haired dude fights evil empire that's a front for some evil dragon cult

>>713495363
You’re looking at it the wrong way around. AI art looks like gachaslop because that’s what it trains on.

>>713463870 (OP)
>early game
>teams are very small
>resources and characters are limited
>maps are very simple so the strategic side is quick
>most decision making boils down to how to distribute exp for who you want to use that playthrough
>occasionally you get a little challenge like reaching a village before its destroy, or having to recruit someone
>the game and maps are short, but very comfy and fun, with little stress

>mid game
>teams are mid-size
>resources are growing and piling up
>characters are much more plentiful
>have real decisions to make: how to use gold, promo items, stat boosters, what units to invest in and use
>maps are getting bigger but still not huge
>a good mix of strategy and engagement, while also having opportunities for mistakes and meaningful decisions
>this is where the game is at its best

>late game
>teams are fucking huge
>resources are just a luxury by this point
>characters are whoever you invested in early-mid game, and any late game recruits to fall back on
>not really any decisions left, the bus pretty much drives itself at this point
>maps are fuck huge and take forever
>units are already filled out and promoted so level ups don't feel fun anymore since they're just icing now and there's no new promotions or stuff to look forward to
>strategy is all that's left, but it no longer feels good or rewarding like it did in mid
>its just being aware of enemies that have threatening weapons, knowing/reacting to reinforcements, and not getting cucked by rng crits (when maps take up to an hour now)
>its more an endurance test than actual good strategy, with any small mistake or a bad crit fucking you
>unless its the first time playing, the game is just getting boring here
>the only fun part is watching those characters you invested in early/mid finally pop off

Anyone else really struggle to maintain interest into the later parts of the game? I love starting up a new run and going but I always lose steam by late game

>>713498524
It's because building up your units is a significant part of the gameplay loop and by the endgame you are pretty much done with that
I've had plenty runs that I dropped sometimes literally at the final chapter or right before it

>>713498524
I don't savescum or use the time machine so I can't relate at all. Entire game is a muddy struggle to optimize at all times in face of death. Id highly recommend playing it as the creators intended.

>>713498279
With every passing day I get more convinced that shipping is the greatest cancer on the internet. Fire Emblem opened pandora's box with supports.

>>713499039
That has nothing to do with what the anon said though

>>713497852
I'm gonna evolve Shann'ann

>>713499406
peg knights whip themselves to promote

>>713499473
whip knights peg themselves to promote

>>713499406
you called?

>>713499405
All those things come from waifufagging and projecting strongly on to the characters.

>>713497852
BELIEVE IN GREEN

>>713499406
no flippin' way

>>713500193
oof ouch owie

>>713500193
DEKE GAMING

NOT EVEN CLOSE

>>713500193
I'm evolving Lance

>>713500193
now you've learned to check for crits

>>713499039
>With every passing day I get more convinced that shipping is the greatest cancer on the internet.
I've always held that shipping is just the other side of the coin to powerscalers, if you really observe their behaviors you realize they're almost 1:1 the exact same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbDBYVlZL_s

>>713500408
Man FE6 portraits look off under the FE8 palette

>>713500193
>attack a killing edge
>surprised when you get crit

>>713500812
I didn't even look at the weapon he had desu
just the damage and hit rate
I'm tired

>>713500503
Same

>>713500193
Surviving one crit is impressive, but how about surviving two crits??

>>713500964
>>713500408
I always hated how dog shit almost every character in 6 was
Rutger carrying the crew of losers on his back to the finish line every time I play

>>713500964
kek
I like how in japanese the killing edge is just "kill sword"

>>713498335
This post was true during the 3DS era but now FE fans are also mentally insane as well.

>>713501063
everyone shits on localizing but almost everything on jap Fates is so generic, like "port city", "night city", etc. at least they tried to spice it up here.

>>713500193
you are legit retarded jeez

>>713500408
I don't like those crit odds

>>713501658
rude

>>713496982
Was hesitant to put CRPGs there since they are more about simulating their respective tabletop systems, but FE has some similar roots and ideas, especially with the more RPG games like Echoes and Three Houses. It does get you to understand why certain things and systems are like that, like permadeath, combat arts, and the "redundancy" between mages and archers.

>>713498279
It may be the least Nintendo series right to Metroid, but it is still a Nintendo series.
The shitposters and crazy autists are kind of part and parcel.

>>713501687
Alright that was easy. Lugh did most of the damage in just a couple turns, then Rutger went in for the kino finisher.

EliGOOD and Hectoptier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDZQBqwN_Y

>>713463870 (OP)
Legit, Shadow Dragon is one of the best games in the series purely for its English script. Stellar writing that you would be remiss to skip.

>>713502153
>56 hit on normal mode with WTA
RutKEKs what the fuck is this? THIS is your God boss killer?!

>>713502379
Forts give lots of avoid

>>713500193
I'll tell you one thing, and I'm not ashamed to say it: my estimation of Deke as a man just fucking plummeted.

>>713502350
Even if you like it, don't get too attached to Shadow Dragon DS's script. It's one of the few times the JP side treated a localization as noncanon. 8-4 very much made the script more dramatic and wistful than SD was supposed to be, including changing Marth's heroic personality to something more tragic and somber.
This was why so many people had so much whiplash when New Mystery was first translated, where they though IntSys whitewashed Marth hard. When in reality, he always was a super sweet optimist with almost no sense of depression, and that's the Marth that has continued to exist in future media.

FE but le epic tweest halfway in is all the "good" seth tier units you get betray you and you are forced to use the shitters you ignored instead
thoughts

>>713504152
I feel like this was already done in a gba romhack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLjfJhZggZE

>>713504152
Reunion at dawn lmao

>>713494876
>>713494814
It's pretty good, it does this interesting thing where it actually splits your party in half and you go through both Ephraim's and Eirika's chapters with only Lyon himself warping across the continent to help out on both sides.
The Jagen is Dussel while Gheb is a recruitable boss

I want to crossdress as a fire emblem girl

>>713505584
calm down ike

In 3H why do characters only get death quotes after the timeskip?

>>713504152
Based

>>713506115
because they don't die pre timeskip. They still show up in the monastery and you can still talk to them

>>713506115
DAMN I CAN'T FAULT HERE

>>713502851
I've noticed this with FE in general. The Western perception of a lot of characters is really different to how the Japanese see them. Not surprising though considering FE seems to be constant localization bait for fanfic writing.

There should be more FE girls with visible cameltoes

>>713507345
Thanks to 3HRT you won't have fanservice designs anymore so enjoy it

>>713482423
Couldn't the word partner be enough?

>>713475826
>Engage
I found engage to be very intuitive compared to 3H, especially if you decide to go max difficulty. Engage is a very fair game and gives the player a lot of power early in a lot of units, and you are fairly railroaded. You can go DEEP off the rails in 3H to both your benefit and detriment, and that's if you don't get immediately filtered by choosing BE as your first playthrough on Maddening

Engage Maddening doesn't throw any real surprises your way, and fits you out with strong units at a steady pace, with a ton of options for favoritism. Looking back, it's a good game to start with mechanically, as it's neither too easy or too hard, and is probably more likely to get someone to play other games in the series.

>>713495756
Her dress would get wet anyways

>>713475446
*warps and captures you*
thanks for the sleep staff. also nice hair faggot

Huge Thracia fan excited to play it for the first time

uuuu...fe11 and 12 suck ass

>>713510926
Also fates had a bad translation

Engage modders keep adding shit holy fuck

>>713512837
hair down hortensia when?

>>713474143
Once this game releases on Switch 2’s NSO, it will reveal many FAKECELS on this board.

>>713501232
>almost everything on jap Fates is so generic, like "port city", "night city", etc.

They gave so little fucks about Fates' worldbuilding that they didn't even bother to name the continent that Hoshido and Nohr are fighting over.

>>713512837
cool
skyrim sex mods when

>>713512837
What exactly is this? Just more clothing mods?

Fates should get a remake before Genealogy

>hagero

>>713516613
Is she really a hag?

>>713514083
It's a port of the three houses version of dancer. All girls + Rosado can reclass to it.

Reminder
https://sendo.itch.io/emerald-dawn

>>713516998
>reclassable dancers
society has gone TOO FAR

>>713482719
>somewhat intriguing dynamics with the potential for drama (the friction between Dorothea and Ferdinand, the whole "we get along, but our countries are enemies" thing with Diamant and Ivy)
>people eat that shit up because actual content can be made from it
Is it a surprise? The real self-inserting is lesbos and troons projecting on Dorothea and Ivy and claiming they'd never touch men despite their games showing otherwise. Dorothea outright says she's bi, and Ivy has little interaction or chemistry with women outside of the female Alear, and even then that support is pretty one-sided and forced and clearly meant to pander to (You).

>>713517436
He should draw more of Catherine.

>>713518206
there's also fell xenologue ivy being implied to be in a relationship with zelkov in the alternate world. and she tried with kagetsu but he no way fag'd her

>>713518482
>implied to be in a relationship with zelkov in the alternate world. and she tried with kagetsu but he no way fag'd her
what the fuck are you talking about? are fr?

>>713519656
yeah. zelkov's battle convo with FX ivy paints them as having a really sweet, lovey relationship (because she shares og!ivy's desire for connection, but in a vapid "love me and tell me I'm pretty" way). apparently the japanese convo implied something even deeper. she wanted this dynamic with kagetsu but he never responded to her advances so she hated him. og!kagetsu speculates his alter really did love her though and was just sad to see what she turned into

Alear a shit

>>713520143
The JP battle convos. English really did sand them both down

Always Jill, Cordelia, Reina, Dorothea, Yunaka.

puffy vulvas

>>713463870 (OP)
Fantranslations are only important if you care about the original text, but it doesn't change the essential core of the story.
Play the remakes, but if you must play the original, skip the NES ones.
Also don't listen to the faggot 3Houses and Engage faggots. The last good game in the series was Awakening and Fates

Alear is hot

Alear is not

alear's puffy vulva

carried by sommie

>the perfect fire emblem doesnt exist

>>713521953
>t.

Alear is for anal sex

>>713523039
Rape

Alear squirts

Tiki
Camilla
Rhea
Ivy

Brown FE girls are superior

>>713523978

alear impregnation

>>713524028
>A literal Megaphone
This is why no one takes the stupid phone game seriously

>>713524160
FAGGGGOOOTTTTT

Genealogy, Thracia brought kagafags a.k.a. elitists
Awakening brought shippers
Fates brought waifufags
Tellius duology brought furries
Three Houses brought pretentious essayists

>Engage brought the FEH and gachaslop audience

Thundering Thrud.

>>713524582
FEH came out the same year as Echoes though, 8 years ago

>>713524582
Engage brought the vulva audience

>>713499039
The existence of shippers prove that femcels do exist. No sane women would do shipping in the first place.

>>713524754
I'd be surprised if there was someone who had Echoes as their gateway to FE, lol
The only reason these ppl exist was because 3DS was devoid of 1st party JRPGs in the first place

Next thread should be a Marianne thread please

>>713524974
N
O

>>713524582
alear's divine vulva brought the heterosexual audiences back

>>713525120
Why not? Marianne is cute and needs positive attention and love

>>713516998
>three houses version of dancer
>gender-locked
Then it's not the 3H version is it.

>>713524160
Heimdallr was known for carrying around a horn. IS deciding to turn the horn into a megaphone because the gods are all scifi based makes sense.

>>713525225
>brought the heterosexual audiences back
Gaslighting by AGP troons

>>713525312
Fake church girl.
I dont like being deceived.

>>713520679
I know better than to question Engage's butchery of a localization, but I SERIOUSLY question what the fuck it had against romance?? Who was the jilted lover at Treehouse this time?

>>713525432
i dont even know what youre talking about schizo

>>713525438
Any mention of sexuality or romance got scrubbed. It's how we got the hilarious change of Fogado going from a serial flirt in Japanese to a guy who constantly invites people to tea parties in English.

>>713525432
Haha look at xir trying to act like xe isnt Alearfag.

Not even Fates was that bad

>>713525436
It's called desperation. After all the years of shit she endured, it was a means to ask for help. Whether it worked or not isn't the important thing here

>>713474143
ike didn't fuck titania 0/10

Is there a mod for Fates that redoes the entire translation? I don't play treehouseshit, as a rule.

>>713524648
Hornswogglin' Hoðr

>>713525549
Checking the localization managers between 3H and Engage, they hired a lot more people despite Engage's smaller size and development being in tandem with 3H.
Three Houses localization managers
>Nate Bihldorff
>Reiko Ninomiya
>Rich Amtower
>Ann Lin
>Tim O'Leary
>Scot Ritchey
>Morgan Ritchie

Engage's localization managers
>Reiko Ninomiya
>Rich Amtower
>Erika Webright Arlot
>Michael Benedetto
>Nicko Gonzalez De Santiago
>Ann Lin
>Tim O'Leary
>Scot Ritchey
>Morgan Ritchie
>Álex Zarza

So it isn't really easy to pin blame on one person, especially given how they all are liberal fucks (3H's localization have some of its own issues). But god, Engage's hatred of romance (IN THE GAME CALLED ENGAGE WHERE YOU USE SUPERPOWERED WEDDING RINGS) is almost as criminal as Fates cutting out entire mechanics, or cutting entire DLCs because it they were "too much to translate".

>>713525952
Yes
https://varishangout.com/index.php?threads/fire-emblem-if-fates-translation-mod.2042/

>>713525952
JP version for the cowards
It doesn't help. Fates is just a bad story.

>>713526060
It doesn't help the story make a lick of sense, but it does restore the cut content, so you are actually getting more game.

Post FE girls who smell absolutely terrible (in a good way)

Thread's about to die and I'm just now noticing it, but the fact that multiple replies mention starting with Birthright but not one says anything about Conquest shows how brain rotted this fandom is and that you should just start with whatever seems most appealing to you. Why would you want to start a beginner with a mediocre game of the Fates trilogy, that no one likes that much? Because IS are morons and advertised it as the "easy one" think players are morons too? That's it?
I kinda like it in a dumb way, but it's genuinely fucking mental that not one person recommended Conquest on Normal. It's like people think the game is unplayable if you're a retarded newb I guess.

>>713525768
>Sees game jesus exists and the followers of the church are elated
>Marianne "quick kill them!".
Desperation my ass. She is just more willing to trust niggers thats all.

Heeey there, soldier. At the risk of sounding too forward, I've always admired the Panzerritter, you know. You folks are just so brave, with a body to match... Hm? Beg pardon? You're not with the Panzerritter? ...Oh, c'mon! I had this whole spiel prepared an' everything! Ugh, there go my plans... Look, one of the knights in the Panzerritter was by earlier, and he left this here. I thought it was the classic "pretend to forget something so you have an excuse to come back" ploy, but I guess not... Well, see that this gets back to him, will you?

(Knight Proof)

>>713526296
I don't think Fates is a good intro regardless of which one you play. The mechanics are unarguably more complex than almost any other game in the series regardless of actual difficulty. Would be better to start with a GBA title and then play conquest once you're more acquainted with the basics

>>713525436
>>713526309
Fuck off with that Edeltard apologist fanfic meant to destroy the good name of the Golden Deer!

>>713526296
Conquest on Normal is still rather tough and super stingy with resources. It's not really good for TEACHING people, especially how many times it throws in a gimmick and then just removes it (the teleporting stairs, the caltrops in ninja rape cave, Mr. Fuga's Wild Ride, kitsune genocide).
Just because you can play something like F-Zero X on Easy Mode doesn't mean it is good to get people who don't know anything about racing games into the genre. Fantastic game but you don't want to filter people out or give them the wrong perspective that everything in the genre is that hardcore or beginner-unfriendly.

Yeah, Birthright is pretty lame and the moment it starts to challenge you it hands you Ryoma to break everything. But much like choosing to use Seth or grinding in Sacred Stones, it is easier to build around your own difficulty and experience than it is to work your way up. Fates is a weird game to recommend in general, but it is still one of the more accessible Emblems to pick up.

>Golden Dumpsterfire
https://youtu.be/XzLeQs6jZEM?si=TCkdFEbkMnOrmZAD

>>713526684
I mean it's perfectly fine. Pretty sure it got a lot of new players in, anyway, it was a big seller. FE fans like to do this thing where they acknowledge that a game got them into the series, but assume a beginner would be too retarded to get in with the same games. There are even replies caveating Engage as, as if it's so incredibly hard to "get."
Most new games are heavily casualized and designed to attract new players. I'm just confused as to why you'd recommend a beginner only the most dumbed down games of that bunch. It's like we tacitly agree with IS that players are retarded and Awakening/Birthright are the only things a new player could possibly be interested in.
>>713526778
>Conquest on Normal is still rather tough and super stingy with resources.
Players are not retarded. If big ass reddit shipping casuals could get into the series with Tellius, any regular gamer can get into FE with Conquest on a preferred difficulty level.

>>713525535
>>713525594
Only fags / troons obsess over Alear lol

>>713524974
Done, love ;) <3

dogshit thread incoming

>>713527080
Players are not retarded, my first game was fucking Radiant Dawn. It took me months to get past the first 5 chapters but I did it.
But I also know that this genre is pretty niche and you don't really want to push people into the deep end. Especially since Fates has a pretty shitty tutorial and onboarding mechanics. Saying pick what seems cool and jump in is decent advice, but if you genuinely want to learn about the series and foundations that can make harder games easier, I reccommend going through the easier and more accessible games. That doesn't mean they are better than the more hardcore entries, just that they work better as teaching tools and training wheels.

Otherwise if want to say "go with the game with all the cool and hard mechanics", I'd just say go with Thracia 776. Or don't even bother with Fire Emblem and pick a better game.

>>713527183
Or spam her.
I like her but hate the schizo trying to tarnish her rep when its already hard for her to not get trashed.

>>713527080
Conquest doesn't have the turnwheel. The only way to make it "beginner friendly" is to play on Normal/Casual, which is just a shitty introduction to a series meant to be played with perma death

make a new bread

>>713527724

>>713527617
I'm just making the point that is insane. It's not like Birthright on Lunatic is incredibly playable for a total newbie, and Conquest on normal incredibly unforgiving to all bust the most epic basement dwellers. It's not that simplistic.
I'd recommend just starting with the newest releases myself (so 3DS is disqualified), or something that is easy for you to pirate. Keep it that simple.
But still, if you're in the market, pick something that will actually not put you to sleep. It's better to be mildly challenged than to be coddled but bored.

>>713527752
How about no.
You need a break

>>713527724
Agreed.
Loved Houses but I hate its fans.

>>713527696
Or you could just play on Normal Classic if you like. Goddamn, why do you niggas want to police new players so much? Just let them swim, they won't drown I promise.

the new FEs are inherently unkind to permadeath so they are all bad for beginners to play