Am I supposed to know which one of these is the best?

>have blue switches
>buy yellow switches because apparently they're silent but still tactile
>still noisy af

>>713497826 (OP)
>Am I supposed to know which one of these is the best
you can get a kit off amazon with every single switch type on it for like $5 and decide for yourself.

>>713497826 (OP)
By going into the store and testing them in real life side by side to see which feels best. Did you know physical stores exist where you can buy goods on the spot as opposed to ordering them online? A relic from the past

Reds click when you bottom out the key and when you release the key.
They are only quiet compared to the other, even louder switches.
With that acknowledged, I still prefer them between those 3.

>>713497982
This mechanical keyboard shit is gay marketing nonsense. Korean broodwar players can kill you with a membrane keyboard easily

>>713497826 (OP)
The more noise it makes the better.

What the fuck is a Reaper Axis or Gray Wood V3 Axis?

The browns are a horrible compromise and feel like shit

>>713498348
I'm better than all those guys at broodelwar though

>>713498165
it's a dollar cheaper on amazon

just wait 2 more weeks for the superior TMR keyboards to come out

>>713497826 (OP)
it's not 2006, membranes are fine now

I've had the same blue cherry Corsair K70 for about 11 years now and it still works as good as the day I got it, AND it has absolutely no wear on it. I fucking love this thing and will use it till the day I die.

>>713497826 (OP)
For typing and work, my favorite is my Model F. For gaming I prefer Topre (but they're too fucking expensive at retail for what they are, especially HHKBslop; the only reason I have a RealForce anyway is because I won mine in an auction for much cheaper than normal).

I've found that I'm not a fan of MX/derivative switches for longterm serious use, their lack of inherent sync between actuation and tactility starts to become noticeable to me over time.

>>713497826 (OP)
the new meme among the pc gaymers is to use linear key switches with a hall-effect.

Here I'll save you years of time and keyboard tinkering.
>best linear switches
Gateron yellow, Gateron Ink Black
>best clicky switches (light)
Kailh box white, Gateron Melodics (on the heavier side of light)
>best clicky switches (heavy)
Kailh box jades (box navies for even heavier)
>best tactiles
Boba U4T, Chosfox Voyager v2 (note: avoid if you're using MT3 or similarly tall and heavy keycaps, actuation issues), MMD Princess Tactile
>i'm a hipster and want a light tactile
Kailh box browns, v1 if possible, otherwise settle for Kailh box whites and put up with the clicking
>but what if i want oneness with cup rubber
Get one of those Niz topre clones. It's gonna cost you an arm and a leg either way and Niz has MX sliders built in already so you retain keycap compatibility with virtually every other keyboard on the market. No there isn't actually a huge quality differential between first-party Realforce and Niz.
>but what if i don't like mx switches and i want alps
Find the biggest dildo you can and sit on it, I guess, because Alps switches are hard to find without dismantling old keyboards and there aren't any fresh ones, keyboards or switches.
>but what if i don't want to solder anything
Buy a prebuilt or suck it up and solder in Mill-max hotswap sockets so you don't have to do it again, a Pinecil is $25 and it's the best soldering iron you'll ever buy.
>but what if i want a magnetic (hall effect/TMR keyboard)
I also like linear keyboards that have gimmick software installed. Have fun making your older games not freak the fuck out when it keeps detecting a keyboard and an Xbox 360 left stick at the same time because you bound analog input to WASD.

Also get a Madlions HE keyboard. They're a close enough clone that Wooting got super fucking pissed and tried to scrub Madlions off of the internet. Point one for huemonkeys.

>>713498506
ALPS' tactile switches (especially Orange) were far superior to Cherry's in terms of sound and keyfeel. Cherry Browns are just basically scratchy linears, and their heavier tactiles just feel like very stiff rubber domes. Too bad ALPS style switches went the way of the CRT.

>>713499145
what are the best tactile, but as silent as possible, medium-heavy?

Clickity clackety is based
"thock" is gay and cringe
Make some noise nigga!

>>713499145
>i want a buckling spring keyboard
You have basically two options:

>Model M from Unicomp
Minor QC issues and is debateably too expensive for what it is, but these people are the actual intellectual-property holders of the IBM Model M name and design, and are a legitimately 100% American owned, run, and manufactured business. They don't even use prison labor when they slap a Made In America sticker on it!

The Unicomp Model M suffers from still functionally being a membrane keyboard; the company has yet to figure out acceptable key rollover, but as a typer the keyboard is fine.

>New Model F from Model F Laboratories
Post is being typed from one at this moment. I greatly doubt the project runner's claims that he *can't* pre-assemble the keyboards fully before shipping out, but assembly is not a hard project even if you completely ignore instructions as you're repeatedly told by the project to not do. Full metal chassis, QMK software powering it, comes in many layouts, does not suffer Unicomp's key rollover problems, EYEWATERINGLY EXPENSIVE. KEYCAP SETS ARE CONSIDERED AN (free, admittedly) ADD-ON AND NOT A GIVEN. NOT COMPATIBLE WITH ANY KEYCAPS BUT THOSE INTENDED FOR MODEL M AND MODEL F BUCKLING SPRING KEYBOARDS. THIS KEYBOARD IS INTENDED TO LAST A LIFETIME, IT IS OF AN ERA WHEN KEYBOARDS WERE EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THIS ON THE REGULAR.
>>713499272
Boba U4. Silenced version of Boba U4T (rubber plug put into the inside of the switch, along its slider.)

>>713498348
The main distinction early on was that membrane keyboards wouldn't let you hold more than three keys at once and would drop one if you tried to hold a fourth key which was an issue for certain games, whereas mechanical keyboards didn't have that problem. It's no longer an issue though because the technology advanced.

I will continue to use my 10 dollar membrane keyboard.
The same model I've been using for 10+ years.
I have 4 put away in storage in case mine breaks.
The Logitech k120 is the best keyboard ever made.

brown good

>>713499421
I wanna see how the classic-style beamspring keyboards from the modelfkeyboards project turn out. The fact that they use MX mounts for keycaps is a big reason I'm interested, besides the obvious intrigue of trying beamsprings.

>>713500342
If you're at all familiar with buckling springs, beam springs feel like a tightened-up buckling spring keyboard, they're very nice. It's also the only real upgrade path from a Model F, and modern keycap compatibility is an amazing sell for a beam spring keyboard.

>>713497826 (OP)
its about whatever satisfies your ergonomic needs, do you like click clack? do you like mushy press? do you like zero actuation? that's what makes keyboards fun, it's what (you) like.

Computer/gadget stores sometimes have switches you can try them yourself

>13 year old Logitech K800 dies after I splash a bit of milk on it eating breakfast
>score my dads good-as-new 2 year old K800
>spill a whole cup of coffee on it a week later
They don't make these any more and their current models are absolute shit tier I don't know what to do

>>713497826 (OP)
hall effect is best for gaming mechanical is old shit

>>713500537
>I don't know what to do
put your keyboard in a plastic bag while you're eating.

>>713497826 (OP)
it's personal preference. i like tactiles or silent tactiles. Boba U4T masterrace

>>713499028
>Model F
Found the millionaire.

>>713497826 (OP)
blues are genuinely awful and I don't know how people can deal with them.

>>713500537
stop being such a slob for one.

>>713499272
Boba U4 is the best but they're expensive and harder to find, Durock Silent Shrimp are a way cheaper alternative. they're not as good but Bobas costs 4x as much, i like them

>mechanical keyboard
single, huh

>>713500743
I had a bad run alright the old keyboard lasted over a decade

>>713500685
Baby's first clicky keyswitch. That's literally it.

You're supposed to know what you want

>>713500537
buy a real keyboard? imagine using this garbage

>>713497826 (OP)
Blues are annoyingly loud.
Browns and reds feel identical and I think its a total scam.

>>713497826 (OP)
press the any key

>>713501190
These seem like a good idea until you look over them and most of them are actually just repeats

>>713498348
I bought a mechanical keyboard not to be better at gayming but for it to feel better. Its like if you work walking a lot, it is a wise thing to buy comfortable shoes, not to do the job better, but to feel better when doing so.

>>713500685
boomers needed them because if their keyboard wasn't as loud as a typewriter they had a mental breakdown

>>713498348
I wanted nkro since I play rhythm games. The only membrane that offers that was long discontinued.

inb4 kys osutranny

>>713501243
To be fair, just about every chink operation that made a direct clone/ripoff of MX Browns ended up making a better version (even if marginally in some cases).

>>713500965
Gaymer huh?

>>713497826 (OP)
get the ones loud enough that your neighbor can hear them through concrete walls, trust me he will think you are super awesome pro gamer

None of them are the best
There's no best
it's a fucking placebo to sell you overpriced shit does nothing
It's the same scam audiophile people get scammed but less obvious

>>713497826 (OP)
>red is too soft
>blue is too fucking stiff
Brown is the best just like my skin-tone.

>>713497826 (OP)
>get blues and leave my mic on voice activity

>>713497826 (OP)
It's none of them.

>>713502702
Uh oh, chinky

>>713497826 (OP)
you used to be able to buy key samplers for dirt cheap, but apparently all the good keyboard shops have just silently fucking died over the last few years?

what the fuck happened to wasd?

>>713502752
Chinks absolutely run circles around Cherry, they sat on their laurels for too long and were completely unprepared for when their patents expired.

>>713497826 (OP)
brown because it feels the most like every other keyboard you've used

>>713497826 (OP)
i thought this gif was showing the different modes for those automatic fleshlights

how do y'all clean you're keyboard?

>>713503102
I don't know but I need to
there's more hair in my keyboard than on my head at this point

I've got a corsair k70, the original red led one
Its great, but sometimes I want to write without everyone in the house hearing the clackin'

I'm tempted of getting a membrane one and selling it, I've had it for like 6-7 years and its good as new holy fuck

>>713503102
i throw it out and buy a new one

>>713503102
My little USB-C vacuum-blower for standard crumb/dust/hair cleanup, using a keypuller as necessary.

When I get an old keyboard that's filthy though, I usually use a Magic Eraser (or rather my bulk pack of non-brand-name equivalents from Amazon), with warm water and dish soap (plus baking soda for more stubborn shit). Alcohol is usually only reserved for cleaning internal/mechanical parts since it can fuck with the finish of plastic and ruin paintjobs that use the wrong kinds of paint; I only use it for external cleaning to remove sticky crap (e.g. leftover adhesive residue) or as a last resort.

>>713503102
>he uses the keycap remover shit
Pull them out with your fingers and hurt yourself like a man

>>713499498
That wasn't even an issue with the actuation technology, it was entirely a problem of manufacturers putting shitty electronics in their cheap membrane keyboards.

There isn't a best. It's just preference. That's like asking what's the best pair of underwear or the best waifu. Everyone will have a differenr answer and be adamant theirs is the objective fact

>>713503102
i blast it with an air blower and wipe the surface with an alcohol wipe and call it a day

>>713497826 (OP)
just don't pick blue for gaming it's objectively terrible

>>713502273
I'd rather have my skin be red or blue than brown.

>>713504003
Hang yourself and you'd turn red and then blue.

People are just baiting when they say they find even silent linear switches to be too loud, right?

>have wooting 80he
>I don't even play esports

>>713500537
i still use a $10 logitech from 10 years ago, works fine

>>713504172
It's more likely that their keycaps are too low so it hits the base of their keyboard, or they're brutes who bottoms out every keystroke.

>>713497826 (OP)
I don't remember my decision making at the time but I went with brown so it's gotta be good.

>>713498348
>having shoes is so dumb, nigerian runners can outpace you barefoot dude
missing the fucking point you dip. i have a 7g that i got in 2011 and it still works. wouldn't say flawlessly, since it developed a doubleclick on a few letters and one keycap broke, so i had to substitute, but other than that it's a tank. don't see a reason to replace it.

>>713500537
start not parking beverages where you can fuck up your electronics

>>713497826 (OP)
None, analog hall effect switches are the future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUbKhUBs6XI

>>713499421
>EYEWATERINGLY EXPENSIVE
anon, am i looking at a different manufacturer? https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/store/ is this it? it's expensive, but dumb rgb "gaming" keyboards can be as expensive, unless i'm missing something? also
>Unicomp look great
>wanna buy one
>but i'm in euro slavland
eh

>>713501553
live yourself osuqueen

>>713498348
I can kill korean broodwar players with my bare hands easily

>not using box navys

>>713504263
Ah, so they're usually dumbasses using taller keycaps meant for clicky and heavier tactile switches then.

THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG

>>713504912
are you supposed to press both shift keys down and then type?
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
that's a laptop keyboard though

>>713498497
Just chinkspeech for switches.

>>713498348
"artisan" grift for zoomers so they can type UwU on their groomcord.

>>713505261
People here will make posts like this 100% genuinely and expect to be taken seriously.

>>713499421
>The Unicomp Model M suffers from still functionally being a membrane keyboard; the company has yet to figure out acceptable key rollover, but as a typer the keyboard is fine.
I wish they would figure something out. A big reason I went with a Model F is NKRO, but when it comes to keyfeel in a vacuum, I prefer the heavier and chunkier feel of Model M keys. also a more practical way to open the assembly to service the membrane that's reversible out of the box would be nice, especially since doing so would probably also fix the issue of melted plastic rivets degrading with time/heavy use. Bolt mods are dodgy and suck ass to do.

>>713505261
very little of these custom keyboards are used to produce anything important. most of the typing is just socially depraved people gossiping to each other online. check the struck a nerve count on this thread.

My friend gave me this keyboard that has "banana" switches and it's pretty great. They're like muffled blues.

>>713499498
what membrane keyboards does not have dropped keys?

>>713497826 (OP)
I have speed silvers in mine
They're like reds but faster to actuate

>>713497826 (OP)
>Am I supposed to know which one of these is the best?
Yes, the red one.

>>713504064
A preferable alternative to being brown.

>>713497826 (OP)
it's all placebo

>>713503102
Keycaps in a cloth sack and into the washing machine, compressed air and tweezers for the base.

>>713497826 (OP)
Flat out ignore blue. Even for writing they suck, cause finger fatigue, and are for hipsters and pretentious KB snobs.

Browns if you like a little push back, reds is you don't.

Balanced scissor ftw. The k740 was a masterpiece, and we will never see her like again.

>>713506620
Imagine being this weak

>>713498048
i've still to find a tester here for cheap, it's always way too expensive

>>713497826 (OP)
Cherry Red chads WW@??

>>713498627
>weekly
Vacuum dust and disinfectant wipe
>monthly
alcohol and cotton swabs for the dirty keys
>half year/yearly(depends)
full cleaning with warm water and soap. complete disassembly(fucking pain)

Test

>>713499145
>Here I'll save you years of time and keyboard tinkering.
>>best linear switches
>Gateron yellow, Gateron Ink Black
Wow you failed so early. Yellow is trash. Ink Blank is OK but Aqua v3 by Everglide is the best linear that isn't a Gateron Magnetic Jade Pro HE.

>>713503102
Handwash the PBT keycaps in a boal of soapy water. Let it soak a bit. Pull the switches and blow the fuck out of the thing with compressed air. Wiped down everything with isopropyl alcohol, dry, reassemble.
>captcha: yurike

clicky blue switch is trash

>>713497826 (OP)
model m. either new model m or original. buckling spring is better than probably any other keyboard design out there. clicky, feels great, basically zero misinputs ever. you have to graze the key and not press it at all for it to misinput. i've had a new model m for a couple years now, it's the best keyboard i've ever used, maybe second only to the original-ish licensed ones i used with AS400 at my first job. those were worn in, the keys were very floaty, but still had basically perfect inputs. they were used hard daily as POS terminals. i learned how to type faster than anyone else at that job at 16yo just because they were so clicky and good, i was a maybe 20wpm typist before. i credit my ability to type to a combination of outdated ass cash registers and the IBM model m design