.

>>713502624 (OP)
Clair Obscur was like 2 months ago, bro. Play it and change your mind.

>>713502624 (OP)
Reddit's favorite FF

>>713502973
No it isn't.

Disc 1 is

>>713502682
>pretending to be an insufferable fan of a game you hate so everyone will turn on it
bravo

>>713503203
isnt that what OP is doing
I know it's an VIIIfag who made this thread

>>713502624 (OP)
I rest my cast

>>713502624 (OP)
I think it is probably true not because of ff9's greatness but because it lacks any large weaknesses. It's a very high average.

>>713503323
the limit break system, the snails crawl speed of the game. every boss fight is reduced to attempting to steal for ten minutes until you get everything then raping him in two seconds. game sucks

>>713502624 (OP)
It's not even the best FF

^^^^ Didn't they lose?

>>713502624 (OP)
Only reddit hipsters like 9 and 12

>>713503394
Limit break system was ass, but didn't stealing just get you op items early

>>713503394
This, the gameplay was a slog. I turned on cheats just to experience story mode because there's no fucking way I was going to waste time with that battle system. Story was mid.

>>713502973
That's 7, mongoloid retard.

>>713503445
Reddit liked ff9 15 years ago before it was onions central
Those tards like the ff7 demake

>>713503394
>Trance
It's not even bad, it's perfectly adequate.
>Game pace
It's not even bad, it's perfectly adequate.
>Boss fights
there's a large variety with the endgame stuff having higher difficulty as it should. stealing is optional for stronger players and isn't even bad, it's perfectly adequate.

The game completely fails to suck at anything thus achieving a medium-high score in all aspects.

>>713503593
The game pace is fucking outrageously slow, not adequate. I've played VNs that were less of a snoozefest.

>>713503593
>I admit it's bad but it's fine because I have Stockholm syndrome
>I admit it's bad but it's fine because I have Stockholm syndrome
Great arguments retard

>>713502624 (OP)
FF9 is good game, but the companions just suck. Vivi and Garnet are the only ones that are decent enough, the rest are very forgettable.

>>713504493
>I admit it was bad
He literally said the opposite. What's wrong with you?

>>713504446
It can be slow if you grind and explore the whole map but the events come pretty quickly with very minor dungeons between them if you beeline it. The world map is almost completely optional, as it should be.

>>713504493
No, I admit it's not extremely good and there's a huge difference. I dont think ff9 is the best at anything but it's far from the worst at anything too.

>>713502624 (OP)
This game fucking sucked.

>>713504524
I genuinely forgot Eiko and the black guy existed until this very moment.

>>713506506
I wouldn't go that far. It's still a ps1 FF game and those 3 titles are far and above every jrpg out at the time by miles and miles. it's the worst of the 3 by far but it's not without its charms and it's definitely worth playing. and I made that tranny baphomet pic I always post in these threads.

>>713504524
>>713506545
Zidane, Vivi, Steiner, and Garnet are excellently written characters and more than enough to carry the game.

>>713502624 (OP)
no

>>713502624 (OP)
If you’re a tasteless furryfag.

>>713502682
Is it under $20 yet? Then I can wait 4 years when it does

>>713506924
>>713504524
freya is top tier but feels out of place in the game, companion-adjacent beatrix is fantastic. quina has a surprising amount of content for being way too fucking weird to be great.

>>713506864
there's no way in hell ff9 is the worst of the ps1 ff games
i will say triple triad >> tetra masters but ff9 is better in pretty much every other aspect

>>713503593
Adequate does not equal best jrpg or all time though

>>713502624 (OP)
Not even the best FF, VII, VI and VIII are better.

>>713507092
it's subjective but 8 was the last time it was really innovative instead of going backwards until like 11 and 12. the end of an era really

>>713507098
wrong, ff9 wins by doing nothing. everyone else has greater failures so being merely adequate is enough to rise above.

>>713507140
I played VII so much as a kid, I can't play it anymore. I'll definitely play 8 again and maybe 9 but I can't do it anymore

>>713507281
oh and tactics. I'll play that again. the original of course

>>713507213
Minus the excellently paced story, awesome music, engaging themes, and comfy environments I agree, it did nothing

>>713507140
What was better about Vii? Only thing i can think of is if you have a preference for that art style and those characters, and the more cyberpunk theme

>>713507029
Freya was awesome but once her arc was finished very quickly, she serves as a backdrop. Ff7 had this same problem

>>713507732
Story, music, the sheer risk of throwing that much money at it, IX is great, it's just formulaic and safe IMO. I get that what it's supposed to be, but compare VIII to VII, then compare IX to VIII and Square clearly just played it safe.

The reactor and JENOVA themes in particular.

>>713508009
Ffvii had some incredible themes for sure, but ffix is right up there with it. The twist was kind of gay though (zidane and kuja are.. le brothers!!)

https://youtu.be/DW4C4RVmN9s?si=MEQyd6KWxd3G2KTl

>>713507732
7 was basically star wars for kids who played games in the 90s. it was so far above everything else in terms of music, presentation, characters, and storytelling, was the biggest budget game at the time. the first AAA game it's called. It was a huge fucking deal

>>713508009
not him but I think ff7 has just about the worst story in the entire series and i played to 12. it's full of really interesting ideas but they dont connect very well and they mostly dont even go anywhere. feels like a dozen different people were hired to write a section of story and they didn't share any notes, they tried to appease the SNES era fans and also cyberpunks and sci fi alien shit all at once and it could be MUCH worse, it's pretty good.

>>713508118
on the other hand ff9 has one of the best stories and story-implementations out of anything. every SINGLE scene and plot revelation in the entire game leads up to an super layered onion of repeating reinforcing themes.
>theater stage
>political pawn
>magic puppets and eidolons
>cosmic manipulation
is amazing to go through and it never veers away from the theme for even a second. it is of course not super interesting or unique and is a lot of nostalgic throwback without any of the innovation.

>>713508342
I bought a gaming magazine in checkout at the grocery store as a kid and it had an ad for ffvii in it and I thought it looked so cool I clocked it and got it on release. was fucking blown away

>>713508380
>but I think ff7 has just about the worst story in the entire serie
then your opinion is invalid and I won't read the rest of your gay blog post

>>713502624 (OP)
LMAO

>>713508380
>but they dont connect very well and they mostly dont even go anywhere.
Explain. I don't get it.

>>713508417
yes stories should be appreciated only by people who can read.

here's a completely derivitave song from 9. eumatsu himself said he had basically just phoned it in at 9. he was burnt out and probably considers 8 his magnum opus

>>713508540
forgot link
https://youtu.be/Gp8pw3Zc8pk?si=BrWErx06ZRne4192

>>713508380
Didn't ff7 have a really important plot scene behind a waterfall that there's no reason to go back to on the 3rd disc that 99% of players would miss?

>>713508436

>>713508606
lucrecia, this was in the age of guides

>>713508606
Yeah, Yuffie and especially Vincent nearly got cut. Probably the best thing about the Remakes is them not being optional.

If 9 was faster it would be kino sovl.
Also if the steal rates wouldnt be dogshit

>>713508650
Not everyone had guides or was using guides in 1997.

>>713508736
no maybe not but I would argue the guides for the FF games probably sold quite a few

>>713508771
I miss physical strategy guides so fucking much

>>713508771
Sure, but how many people do you think missed this obscure optional hidden scene that's only there when they're finishing up the game in 1997?

>>713508342
Innovative doesn't necessarily mean it's better than something that comes after it but yeah FFVII was amazing at the time

>>713508850
probably a lot but I'm okay with things being hidden to find maybe after experimenting on later playthroughs. it's not crucial to enjoying the game but it does give a lot of context. I would play once on my own and then once with a guide back then. I can't do the pdf guides even playing older games, it's just not the same

>>713508649
>his argument is still loading
lmao!!!

>>713508920
I'm not knocking it desu. I'd prefer more obscurity in modern games. Souls games do this pretty well.

>>713502624 (OP)
Not quite but it's up there

>>713508449
its neat that there is some formless corporation to blame shit like midgar and the army and the superscience stuff on and there's a couple attempts to tie them into main jenova plot but mostly the entirety of act 1 has nothing to do with anything. stock standard cyberpunk evilcorp strip-mining plot gets dropped for evil aliens vs. life magic guys and its all very cool but completely disconnected. the justification for anything is based on
>hojo did a thing because he could
and one by one the excuses get killed off and then you're left with some awesome characters and no reason for them to exist.

>>713508735
>Also if the steal rates wouldnt be dogshit
this is one of the games most annoying things I think

>>713502624 (OP)
That's not Legend of Legaia

>>713508984
>16
>A

>>713502624 (OP)
OP is a furfag

>>713508984
>V that high
>III that low
low IQ tier list

>>713502624 (OP)
*4th best final fantasy on the ps1

>>713509230
>7 > 8 > tactics > 9
checks out

>>713506864
vagrant story mogs the ps1 FFs thoughbeit. as does star ocean 2

>>713502624 (OP)
It's my favourite FF but anyone who has tried to 100% this game will tell you, it can also go fuck itself.

>>713509346
vagrant story is fine but I don't think it's anything particularly amazing. and star ocean just straight sucks as a series and always have

>>713502624 (OP)
The story and characters suck so bad

>>713507092
8 has:
>better story
>better setting
>better music
>better artstyle
>better writing
>better sidequests
>better villian
>best final dungeon in the series
>better pacing
>better cutscenes
>better battle system that is actually innovative

its not even close

>>713509384
making something exclusive to speed running was so retarded to me. I'll never do it

>>713508380
the story of IX is absolutely fucking pointless and retarded after the first disc. insanely forgettable slop

>>713509451
Dude it ain't even Excalibur II, there's the jump rope, the mini game with the two weird gimp creatures in disc 3 or 4, the items that are locked to certain discs, the chocobo shit (Which isn't hard just super tedious)

This game is a side quest nightmare.

>>713509553
>the jump rope
fuck that game

>SSS tier: VII VIII
>S tier: VI X
>A tier: V IX
>B tier: I IV
>C tier: II III
>Dont even play tier: XII, XIII, XV, XVI

>>713509659
wrong.

>>713509553
chocobo hot n cold, finding all the chocographs, then going out on the map and finding treasure from them was literally the best part about FFIX and way more fun than the breeding/racing in VII to get the 4 materia caves. the rest of the game is pretty shit for golden age FF standards though.

>>713509442
8 has
>a better story
that is mostly not even written down. if you go and dig around in various side quests and zones you can pry a great story out of ff8 but they really dropped the ball on completing the game there.
>better setting
again, if they had completed the cetra zones and you didn't completely skip it on your way through it would have been very very good. a lot of ff8 is implied to be a cool setting but the player basically never gets to see it.
>artstyle
it has some great designs in the buildings and stuff but oh my lord that 3d. i think ff7 would have been better as a xenogears-tier sprite 2.5d game but ff8 is such an abominable hybrid i dont know how you could make a single continuous style out of anything. it matches the best and the worst.
>writing
see story, its high quality when it exists
>sidequests
in truth non-optional main quest fragments
>battle system
ff8 has a very unique battle system but it is very weird and broken and maybe even theoretically impossible to balance meaningfully.

>>713509521
no

my impressions as a 6-9 year old:
>VII: this is the greatest game ever made
>VIII: this is weird and a bit of let down but kinda cool too
>IX: this is amazing, better than VIII but still not as good as VII.

my impressions replaying them as an adult
>FFVII: this is STILL the greatest game ever made
>FFVIII: this might actually be better than VII, holy shit I totally get it now
>FFIX: Im so bored I might actually drop this on the third disc

>>713509206
Comparing III to V is the most low IQ thing you can do. Their job systems could not be further apart in terms of design and philosophy

>>713510021
this is pretty much exactly my experience as well. I'll also add

first impressions of xii
>this is fun but I hate the massive changes and it's simply a fine FF game

as an adult
>second favorite game after 8

>>713510121
V is actually fun and playable. III sucks ass

>>713510021
>>FFIX: Im so bored I might actually drop this on the third disc
Oh man not me. I get fully engrossed in the game world every time. I don't even mind grinding AP points that's how much i like it. I dunno man, game just resonates with my SOVL

>>713510202
Correct

>>713510202
i still like III but it's less of a game and more of a weird job-grinding sandbox.

>>713510162
I wish I could play XII. FFXIV basically just feels like ff12 but extremely fine tuned and on steroids so it's hard to go back to xii.

>>713510293
to be fair I've never actually played 3 beyond the remake and dropped it so fast it wasn't funny. maybe one day I'll play the nes romhack english translation. I still have no desire to ever finish 1 or 2. or even 4 for that matter but that's gonna be an unpopular opinion

>>713510021
>FFVIII: this might actually be better than VII, holy shit I totally get it now
That's funny cuz replaying it as adult and understanding what's happening made me dislike the game a bit cuz it's just fucking stupid even for a FF game.

>>713510321
yeah, you can see the direct design lineage from ff9 into the nu-Ivalice style. its still my favorite style.

>>713510369
the storytelling is incredibly ambitious. the plot points that squalls father and rinoas mother were in love in the past.. really interesting ideas throughout

fucking retards if you're playing this game on any system not named ps1 OR after 2001
you have absolute NO right to say anything about pacing or battle intro speed
youre 25 years too late, just play the fotm and stfu
you know nothing about how games were made to last back in the 00s

>>713510414
Squall and Rinoa may be the worst love story in all of final fantasy

>>713510414
a lot of ff8 plays out like some korean melodrama and i love it. thank god they didn't go so overboard on the characterization.

>>713502624 (OP)
currently playing X, then I will play 8. Then I will play either 9 or 9 remake.

>>713510552
as opposed to who? cloud and tifa is barely there. zidane and garnet is lame, yuna and tidus are retarded, and nobody fucks in 12

>>713510552
its very nearly the only love story in all of final fantasy? steiner x beatrix is definitely better.

>>713510162
I wish I could get into XII like that, but the battle system and sterile environments are just such a big turn off for me.

>>713510414
Laguna possibly being Squall's dad and the flashback stuff is interesting, but the quality of everything else is so up and down. I still remember where they finally give you the big info dump at the end of the game and they don't even explain how Ultimecia is doing any of this shit, just that it's happen for this reason and Squall and the gang have to unfuck everything.

>>713510683
it's probably the most unique jrpg I've played. It is really worth playing through. I'd really recommend it. Just emulate it, TZA is dogshit and completely throws balance out the window

>>713510640
Compared to all of those you've mentioned. RInoa just throws herself at Squall constantly and everyone in the party just goes "yeah do her bro" until he relents and decides he likes her back. And it's like a switch is flicked in his head, he goes from barely caring about her to being completely obsessed with her and it's retarded. It certainly doesn't help that Rinoa is completely insufferable and a retard herself (and not in the fun way like Selphie)

>>713508984
>VI and X in the same tier as XVI

>>713510414
the end of FFVIII where you find out the entire game is just one big time loop mind fuck is my favorite moment in the entire series (the insanely sad ending of X is a close second). game went from an 8/10 to a 10/10 for me

>>713510640
yuna tidus absolutely mogs tf out of squall rinoa are you kidding me. there is actually a believable build of romance between the two, they have perfect chemistry, and there is an incredibly powerful payoff at the end that is just muh happily ever after slop.

>>713508984
>13 le bad
nah

>>713510772
I think this moment is my favorite in the series. https://youtu.be/8kIGlb0jbps?si=zAOYma9kt8TPzDuI

>>713510829
>they have perfect chemistry
https://youtu.be/bF4T9TSwxAo?si=7GkjbFJ_7oItvr8C&t=33

>>713502624 (OP)
True.

>>713510884
unironically is a great example of their chemistry and is an intentionally awkward scene. Im sorry you retarded fucking zoomers saw le funny meme and didnt actually play the game so you dont understand that.

>>713510702
laguna is the real MC of ff8
>>713510884
>>713510971
i think as written yuna tidus would have been pretty great but as ACTED it fails miserably.

>>713502624 (OP)
>shit story
>shit characters
>shit combat
I thought it was very disappointing.

I'll list the good things in FF9
1. The music
2. The scene where Atomos eats a city
3. Vivi

That's it.

>>713511045
there's a lot to be said for no voice acting which I think does a huge service to the squall and rinoa relationship because it's so fucking cheesy in x

>>713511091
>2. The scene where Atomos eats a city
someone post this

>>713511045
laguna is a cringe af redditor and his sections are the worst parts of VIII. though it really doesnt help that all of the actually interesting shit he does got cut and happens off screen because of time/budget issues. they really dropped the ball big time there.

>>713503394
>attempting to steal for ten minutes until you get everything
playing like a retard is something you have only yourself to blame for though

>>713508436
>hated by cultured film critics
kek

>>713511146
it's a game where abilities are tied to equipment. it's extremely beneficial and easy to do this

>>713502973
Tendie post

>>713509659
Nailed it.

>>713511174
hence the reason the main character is a thief

>>713511134
i think it works out great. mysterious fuckup adventurer guy bumbling his way through the world and touching all historical events. it's good that he's not over played or the tone of the game wouldn't work. even his nearly completely silent buddies work their way into epic bromance via just showing up over a long period of time with massive gaps.

>>713511132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v-4dgGwWlw

>>713511228
that was sick. wtf happened to video games

>>713511174
>it's a game where abilities are tied to equipment
and what amazing abilities are you gaining early access to from steals?
the benefit is getting some weapons early, if you want to be overpowered you do chocobo

>>713511375
I don't know open the wiki bro. equipment = access to more abilities. bosses have rare equipment. it's basic logic anon. I don't know what to tell you

>>713511228
This one always sticks out to me when I think back on 9
https://youtu.be/pWcGwZfowDw?si=zpdxiNC4xR7kFAWv

>25 fucking years later
>still NOTHING that recreates the magic of FFVI-X

how the fuck is this even possible? surely theres SOMETHING ive been missing anons. and no, dont say e33. its overhyped FOTM slop just like this entire fucking genre post squeenix merger.

>>713511475
You can tell they used this cutscene as inspiration for the Bahamut section in XVI

>>713511571
FF6 is shit

>>713511571
there are some good jrpg's.. I honestly think p5 was the last good one before they ran it into the ground. there is nothing this level of high fantasy and cinematic quality like this today for the genre unfortunately. it's actually really sad

>>713511571
sakaguchi got shitcanned
kitase got promoted to upper management and stopped directing
uematsu became washed
nomura faggotry spread throughout SE like a cancer

>>713511642
the series is effectively dead as of now anyway. the last good ff game was xii which was the last one sakaguchi had anything to do with at all. and he can't make games for shit independently so it's over

well yes, combat was slow as fuck, but enemies/bosses was easy as fuck. stealing was shit, trance was very bad too.

why every superboss had like, 65355 hp, i dunno, game allow you to deal 9999 damage with each hit, they could ve make bosses with 300000-400000 hp like ff7 weapons or ff8 omega.

i like ff9, but what i like - minigames, chocobo (which is minigame too), exploring (which is kinda part of chocograph minigame), maybe some parts of soundtrack.

mot much motivation to replay ff9.

>>713511835
>sakaguchi got shitcanned
he quit mid development of 12 and poached half the talent from the team and made the director (and director of tactics))try and quit

>>713511228
The scene with Alexander was kino too

>>713511896
I thought matsuno did quit?

>>713502624 (OP)
Thats not Chrono

Kino

>>713511475
Fuck Bahamut, he killed so many hot breedeable soldiers that day
https://youtu.be/6NyFszLETzk?t=55

I honestly liked that for the most part Zidane had dealt with his personal issues before the game started. He was in love with Garnet and that caused issues, but as far as he was concerned he knew who he was and what was important to him, and it made him a fun older brother character for Vivi

>>713502624 (OP)
The final dungeon is literally a straight line. How people wonder "hurr why did FF become so streamlined and linear durr" while slurping up FFIX is beyond me, half of the game is practically a movie and the other half is devoid of direction and content.

>>713502624 (OP)
that's not black souls 2

>>713513234
but most of final dungeons are straight line

>>713502682
This.
But truthfully speaking, FF9 isn't even the best Final Fantasy so we don't even have to go there.

>>713511571
>how the fuck is this even possible?
You grew older and you live with nostalgia goggles bolted on your head, you're still a manchild though
>inb4 ACHRSKUTALLY i played those games in my 20's and they were still great!!!!1

>>713508540
Easily best piece from 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oH5dksLgv8

>>713513501
>inb4 ACHRSKUTALLY i played those games in my 20's and they were still great!!!!1
This but unironically

>>713513501
>nothing is good or bad!! all eras are equal!! its all nostalgia!! gaming is just as good now as it ever was!!

kill yourself

>>713513501
>>inb4 ACHRSKUTALLY i played those games in my 20's and they were still great!!!!1
I say this

>>713513390
are you sure

>VII: the crater
>VIII: ultimecia castle
>IX: so fucking forgettable I literally couldnt tell you whats its called capped off with the stupidest fucking final boss in any game

>>713502624 (OP)
FFX exists you know

>>713502624 (OP)
It's the last good FF. FFX ruined the series.

>>713513838
I honestly think this is the greatest dungeon of any jrpg of all time. I mean what even comes fucking close to this shit? between the puzzle elements, party switching, ability locks, insanely kino music and art design, loads of interesting and unique bosses, the super boss, the incredible final boss sequence. I mean holy fuck its just sublime and makes every other final dungeon in the series look like a joke

>>713513912
>He thinks Memoria is less interesting than Northern Crater
Maybe you're just retarded or something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJWfn71tkLM

>>713508984
nah you're tripping, FF 13-2 is way better than FF 13

>>713514145
>straight line
>nothing cool to discover or explore
>shitty piss easy boss fights
>gay and disappointing finale

its shit.

>>713514221
>>nothing cool to discover
>What is Hades
>What is Excalibur II

>>713514145
I dont like memoria as a dungeon but it looks very good

If nothing else I do think FFIX has the best character writing in the series by far which will weigh more towards some people's judgement of the game than others.

>>713502624 (OP)
Play V
V is the most ludo JRPG there is.
>Want to build a retard team with only physical fighters? You can
>Want to play a mage only team? you can
>Want to learn weird spells from monsters and beat the game ? You can
>Want to throw money to rekt monsters? You can
>Want to have overpowered Ninjas attacking twice every turn? You can
>Want to beat the whole game with hunga bunga idiots berserker just attacking and unable to do anything else? Well if you have infinite time you can (don't)

FFV is pure JRPG ludo and it has some great scenes.
>It's the contrarian pick because it's very underrated
>it's the pick men of culture because it's simply very good all around.
>Retarded Nomura fanboys can't shit on it because the ugly flesh designs of Nomura started with V
>It has the right amount of management neither too grindy but still requiring experience to develop the jobs of your characters.
>You can replay it infinitely with 4 jobs fiesta

PLAY IT MOFO, PLAY IT.

>>713514041
what about all the original esoteric paintings in that one room in the castle. they put a fuckload of effort into 8

>>713514384
you got me on hades, that was cool. excalibur 2 is literally pointless and the worst secret weapon in any FF game. you would never "discover" it unless you already knew about it and catered an entire playthrough around getting it. talk about retarded

>>713514618
>>It's the contrarian pick
not on /v/ it isn't. it is absolutely overrated here

>>713514532
vivi, steiner and quina are the only well written characters. everyone else is cringe at best and a wallpaper at worst.

>>713514618
>want to build a physical only team?
>want to build a mage only team?

have fun getting fucked by fork tower

>>713504626
It's slow because it takes 38 minutes to load every battle and the animations are almost as egregiously drawn out. The lone contribution to saving the player's time is abbreviated summons after they became a meme in 8.

>>713514202
It's better, but still shit

>>713502624 (OP)
>ff9 is the best jrpg of all time
NO

>>713514618
gameplay wise its the best FF easily

in terms of music, story, characters and setting its incredibly mid, though I do enjoy the light hearted tone

ultimately what makes FF great is the story and presentation and not the gameplay

>>713514897
7's summons were the worst, 8's were an optional minigame and ultimately unnecessary, 9's are perfectly fine and not even strong enough to worry about most of the time.

>>713515003
Yes. 8 was just notorious for making them a minigame and having Eden. KOTR wasn't quite as bad to sit through.

>>713514758
Nah the game's pretty well written all around and filled with charming dialog.
It's nice to have an FF game where the characters talk like real people rather than just expousing platitudes about some grander design or whatever.

>>713515003
Ive never even seen a summon in FFIX because no way im putting whore princess or ugly loli on my team in a game where quina, freya, steiner and vivi exist.

>>713515003
8 has the best summons by far because theyre linked to all kinds of abilities both in and out of battle and are more than just drawn out spells.

My onahole wife

>>713514532
Reminder that FF9 suffered a lot from the JP to EN translation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT_mvr4Pxrg

>>713515406
what FF didn't

I got stuck on the tutorial for catboy mode cause I started at 70% hp and it insta gibs me.

gotd :)

>>713515642
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>>713515245
after a couple hours into ff8 the game's summons are stronger when not cast