you do know they stole nintendo content right?
japanese side with nintendo
https://youtube.com/shorts/kutzkNykywg
>>713514782 (OP)japanese comments:
There are really a lot of people who think like what they believe = justice
I can see why the rest of the world can't outgrow Superman and the black rat anytime soon.
If you don't recognize the superiority of originality and can easily copy it, no one will ever produce anything new.
You think it's OK to do whatever you want as long as it's fun?
What you are saying is the same as ubisoft.
Who do you think you are?
You say that innovation will disappear, but there's no need to go to the trouble of copying Pokรฉmon to make that innovation.
What do you think? You copy because โthere's no innovation.โ
I think that no other manufacturer thinks about the game industry as much as Nintendo does...
They have been tacitly accepting even a little copying... I wonder why they are being prosecuted now.
I'm getting sick of so many people like this lately... no respect for original works at all!
I'm really sick of people from overseas who defend this, because they really have no humility at all, and always speak from a superior point of view.
Someone should tell this person about the divisional filing of the patent.
The original application for this patent was filed in December 2021 and is enforceable to Palworld.
They don't have laws in the West?
I don't think the industry will shrink because of this. This is not a special case or anything.Palwa knew what he was doing and took the adventure, so he can get over it himself
It is Nintendo's right to protect its IP.
I kind of hate it when people take it for granted that stealing is justified.
What's with the โloss of innovationโ, you idiot? You just who made a vulgar game by ripping off other people's characters. For the respectable creators who are competing with their own character designs, Pal makes it hard for them to use even the patents that Nintendo has given them tacit permission to use, so it's Pal that is causing the industry to lose innovation.
We have these threads every day
>>713514782 (OP)>you do know they stole nintendo content right?Wrong brown, Nintendo didn't sue them on those grounds because they had no case, they sued them purely on trademarked game mechanics which even the japs in your post admit is something Nintendo allows with everyone else becaus eno games could be made if all game mechanics were owned by someone, they only targeted Palworld like the cowards they are.
>>713514806>I'm really sick of people from overseas who defend this, because they really have no humility at all, and always speak from a superior point of view.Corrrect, asian bugmen are barely human as is, this only proves it further.
>>713514806>If you don't recognize the superiority of originality and can easily copy it, no one will ever produce anything new.Saying this while defending modern pokemon truly shows how braindead these people are
>taking jap comments seriously
Nintendo is quite literally their Disney
>>713514782 (OP)What did they stole?
>>713514806Mobage wise they have been getting pushed out by Chinese developers who are smart enough to all in with JP assets.
>>713515360American Disney Adults creep me the fuck out which is funny since I enjoy anime. Its definitely the same thing just the thinnest of red lines
What's up with this schizo that's been spamming JOP tendies' video thumbnails?
>>713515234you gaijin is braindead and cause nuisance everywhere
Please stop roleplaying as a jap. You can't even get the engrish right.
>>713515610Dud has been going at it for a while on /int/ and sometimes /ck/
https://desuarchive.org/int/search/subject/Gaijin/country/jp/
probably also on /his/ and /pol/ but I don't browse those
least mentally ill tendie
>>713515841What was the comments like?
>>713515234What's pokemon copying exactly?
Japan is unironically finished.
>>713514782 (OP)because Nintendo's lawyers are fucking faggots and nips are notorious for being corporate dick suckers
the west likes to side with the underdog, especially since they are MUCH smaller than Nintendo and being draconian about patents is deserving of scorn and ridicule
Leave alone the gazillion dollar company I substitute for parental care or else.
>>713514782 (OP)>>713514806>>713515841you will never be japanese, catttloid tranny nigger
>>713514806I would agree with the japs only if they just admitted modern pokemon also sucks.
>>713515841I'm with them on this, sat through a fucking 12 hour flight with some asshole with his seat all the way back, even after he was told to stop, absolutely miserable experience
>>713516272>you will never be japanesethank christ
The obvious answer is that people in the west are more corporate driven compared to Japan who are more morally driven.
If you look at the comments from the nips here it's not defending Nintendo but calling out pocketpair for being lazy and lacking originality.
Then you look at the west and it's all
>don't pick on my tiny indie company they made a game I like you should just try better!
They just abandon all logic and morality to defend pocketpair.
>>713516352Did you kick his chair for the whole duration?
>>713516410>people in the west are more corporate driven compared to Japan who are more morally driven.
>>713514782 (OP)This retards must be living 10 years in the past if they think nu nintendo is something worth defending.
I bet they defended the sovless switch 2 and the empty MKW too.
>>713516410Congrats this is the most retarded post I have seen today.
>>713515991many examples of gaijin doing this nuisance acts
>>713514782 (OP)Japs are buck broken by Nintnedo they mindlessly consume anything they do
>>713516272I am japanese man
>>713516410It's kind of sad seeing what the west has become.
>>713516491>>713516664If you think it's retarded then explain why the west are defending a company who's always been looked down on for copying.
>>713516336They will never Ever do that kek
>>713516453I passive aggressively pressed the touch screen that I could barely see as hard as possible
>>713514782 (OP)I don't really care about the japanese people thoughts about anything
>>713516698I wanna go to Japan just to be a petty nuisance knowing this dying race of ricecels will seethe impotently instead of confronting me like real men.
>>713514782 (OP)Shut the fuck up already bootyblasted nipmonkey.
>>713516698>>713515841why are most westoids like this? this isn't even a nigger problem
>>713516410You're looking it at the complete wrong angle. To the west it's about the stupidity of companies being able to patent game mechanics and then wield it as a bludgeon against whoever they disagree with. Game design patents should never be defended, defending that is corporate-cuckery.
>>713516845See above
>>713516602you gaijin has no morals
this is why you have no problem stealing switch games
comments:
People who pirate are not customers
I am appalled at the low ethical standards of foreign countries that still insinuate piracy at this stage of the game
Don't justify your lack of compliance and decency
Resellers are pissed off both domestically and internationally
It's working great!
It's funny because after all those anti switch boycott, it's selling great
I know it's been common knowledge for a long time that pirates are hanged.
What is it really about foreign cultures that endorse piracy? I mean, they just criticize and play with pirated copies, it's just too much.
All in all, what a peace and what can we consider a virtual great defeat for the resellers and the Nintendo antis...?
I'd like to say to those who defend piracy:
โDo you know the words and meaning of respect and ethics?โ
I don't want you to play by posting "I'm playing pirated copies, how do you feel now Nintendo?" You could have bought it if you worked that time. Shame on them.
I realize that Nintendo's bottom line and popularity is real
It's also something that also sears the low level of the people
I guess it's the difference between
โOmotenashiโ
to make customers happy or not
That's exactly what you'd expect from people who think it's okay to loot things when there's a riot
Is Nintendo's legal department in the US strong?
I hope they beat up pirate users
I've never seen Japanese fighting over items for sale at a store in Japan
Overseas, it's a national trait to be the first to go and not think of others
What? Nintendo is DEI? Piracy is DEI, I think DEI means people who don't spend money and only criticize
Piracy is moral? Japanese content is 100 years too early for idiots.
If you approve of piracy, you are a criminal. If it's an old game that is no longer in production I can understand emulating it, but this is the latest model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEiihAxJ65Y
>>713516410No clearer case of this than will smiths and chis situation. Japanese sided with will, because family and respect is important. As far as they're concerned, christ deserved it for making fun of the man's wife. If he made fun of lgbt Americans would've rooted for will. Truly a deplorable people with wicked morals.
>>713515360Nintendo is trying to be the new Disney period, anon. And if millions of anons were brainless enough to get the S2, then Nintendo may very well achieve that
>>713517108Why do you think they shoot up schools? Suicide rate is bad too.
>>713517208Their children kill their children so adults can kill them.
They are beyond saving.
>>713517259Typical Westoid. You are nothing but animals.
>>713516845Nips are defending a company that's actively and shamelessly patent trolling, so nips can eat shit and enjoy their suicide rates
>>713517153See what I mean, you're abandoning all logic and the concept of ownership just to defend a company that frankly isn't worth defending because they haven't had any ideas of their own.
>>713517331Gaijin !!!!!!!!!
>>713516410I don't give a shit about Pokcetpair, I think Nintendo shouldn't have the sole ownership of basic game mechanics patented in fucking retrospect
do japs also hate digimon for stealing the glory of muh pokemon?
>>713517153>See aboveSee what exactly? Patents like this are 100% fine and it's more necessary than ever to continue the creative process on both sides with the creator being able to profit from their idea safely and everyone else being able to look at the patent and create a similar or improved version that they themselves can patent and repeat the cycle.
>>713517490I didn't mention palworld once. I think software patents are a cancer. No true developer or artist is pro-patent, it's for lawyers and moneygrubbers.
>>713514806do these japs seethe about digimon too
>>713517663that's right, gargle on that cock, tranny nigger
>>713517565>I don't give a shit about Pokcetpair, Which shows your lacking morality.
>I think Nintendo shouldn't have the sole ownership of basic game mechanics patented in fucking retrospectThey don't. Having a patent only means you own that specific version of that mechanic, not the concept of the mechanic itself.
Also they patented these years before Palworld existed.
>>713514806>I can see why the rest of the world can't outgrow Superman and the black rat anytime soon.what
batman is the rat?
>>713517751NTA but this isn't a software patent and every creative makes use of IP law.
>>713515841I feel him, americans are fucking assholes
>>713517805>Which shows your lacking morality.How
>They don't. Having a patent only means you own that specific version of that mechanic, not the concept of the mechanic itself.They shouldn't be able to own that either
>Also they patented these years before Palworld existed.Not really
>>713514806Japanese say this then suport the most mediocre waifu rpg trash games ever
>>713514782 (OP)>why arent you blindly defending shit like japan does???
>>713517913I didn't say IP law did I? I think patents specifically have no place in the games industry.
Every time someone says that the japanese aren't bugmen like the chinese and koreans, remind them of their dicksucking of dogshitendo
>>713517926>HowBecause you're just abandoning the thing you're defending to give yourself some kind of foothold in the argument.
>They shouldn't be able to own that eitherAnd why exactly do you believe that? Pocketpair themselves show the necessity of idea protection since they've made a living on stealing ideas from others.
>Not reallyYes really. They filed for them in 2021 I Japan and 2022 in America.
>>713518036>remind them of their dicksucking of dogshitendoAnd yet you don't have anything to show.
>>713518087>Because you're just abandoning the thing you're defending to give yourself some kind of foothold in the argument.I never defended Pocketpair, I defended their right to use basic mechanics because it's my right as well, they just happen to be the defendant in this case
>And why exactly do you believe that? Because I have a brain and think corporations should be able to own as little as possible
>Pocketpair themselves show the necessity of idea protection since they've made a living on stealing ideas from others.Just like Nintendo, don't you want more Nintendos to exist?
>Yes really. They filed for them in 2021 I Japan and 2022 in America.And Pocketpair used them way before that
>>713517993>I think patents specifically have no place in the games industry.You are aware that patents are a part of IP law, right? Also do you have a reason for believing that? Because it doesn't prevent people from using a concept, it's prevents people from using the same implementation of said concept. In a creative space like video games I would say it's necessary to prevent stagnation.
>>713517913Not him but I'm against IP laws. Your arguments fall flat when I'm of the believe of:
1. Copyright isn't real, it's a jewish scheme to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
2. IP laws aren't real, it's a jewish scheme to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
3. Patent laws aren't real, It's a jewish scheme to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
From my point of view, any company that enforces these laws or rights is a rich jew stomping his boots on the middle and lower class. And that's ethically, and morally wrong, and thus, my enemy. I would always support their opponent, no matter the topic.
In this scenario, Nintendo is the aggressor, fuck Nintendo.
>>713514806I find it funny that no one dogpiled on Itagaki when he made DMC but with ninjas, then shittalked others. Something Palworld is "guilty" of and less gulty at that.
Guess its only bad when its nintendo, huh? Really gets the noggin joggin, dont you think?
>>713518243>You are aware that patents are a part of IP law, right?Oh my god. You're a moron. Let me just break down what you're doing
>I don't like apples>Are you saying you hate fruit? That's stupid>No, I didn't say I hate fruit, I said I don't like apples.>Apple is a fruit, how can you say you hate all fruit
>>713514782 (OP)Because they have no idea what's actually going as only 1% of information gets to them. They're just assblasted about Nintendo.
Pocketpair and their practices were despised by nips and japanese indie scene long before Palworld.
>>713518460Tell us, anon
What are they hiding from us gaijin?
Make me trust nintendo.
Lmao
>>713514806Japs be like
>Pokemon non oficial copy bad>Official Pokemon copy number 1069790 Sword and Sheild good.
>>713518203>I never defended Pocketpair, I defended their right to use basic mechanics because it's my right as wellCan you make up your mind, saying you're not defending them just to go back to defending them doesn't exactly make you look sane.
Also, no one is stopping them from using a concept, that's not what patents do.
>Because I have a brain and think corporations should be able to own as little as possibleSo you don't in fact have a brain. After all you're saying if a company gets big enough their rights should be stripped from them just because your company decided to copy and faced the consequences.
Totally corporate driven you are.
>Just like Nintendo, don't you want more Nintendos to exist?And what exactly did Nintendo copy one to one without permission?
As for wanting more Nintendo's to exist, we already have one we don't need any more. I wouldn't want any more Atlus, Bamcos, Capcoms and so on.
I want people to bring fresh new ideas to the table.
>And Pocketpair used them way before thatNo.
You're probably that one anon who thinks that craftopia used balls so it counts aren't you? But this goes back to you not knowing how patents works because that was the same concept but a different mechanic. It's also hilarious because if they had used that in Palworld they wouldn't be getting sued right now.
I don't understand why a generic survival game is being compared to Pokemon at all
>>713518336In other words you're Jewish and are trying to keep the poor down by telling them that they can't own their own ideas.
>>713518742Because FUCK NEENTENDOOOO
>>713518786Nobody can own an idea.
>>713518664>Can you make up your mind, saying you're not defending them just to go back to defending them doesn't exactly make you look sane. You do understand what rights are anon? You do understand how allowing the rights of another to be violated means you're setting yourself up for your rights being violated as well?
>Also, no one is stopping them from using a concept, that's not what patents do.Nintendo is
>After all you're saying if a company gets big enough their rights should be stripped from them just because your company decided to copy and faced the consequences.>Totally corporate driven you are.Ironic
>And what exactly did Nintendo copy one to one without permission?So many games and IPs in their NES and SNES days, Kirby is named after the lawyer who weaseled them out of the King Kong lawsuit
>As for wanting more Nintendo's to exist, we already have one we don't need any moreThankfully you don't get to decide that, it's a free market and Nintendo is just going to have to suck up having competition
>You're probably that one anon who thinks that craftopia used balls so it counts aren't you?Craftopia's balls are mechanically identical to Palworld's
they did not copy pokemon any more than pokemon copied dragon quest
it's inspiration
you literally use guns in this game and force them the mon to do slave labor so you can build a base
this shit isn't like pokemon at all
>>713519080uhhhh, anon, don't point that out, Tendies get super upset when you point out Nintendo didn't invent the monster catching genre
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>>713514782 (OP)Palworld is shovelware so I have no problem if it gets sued to death. If it was a good game it would be worth defending.
>>713514806>If you don't recognize the superiority of originality and can easily copy it, no one will ever produce anything new.that's fucking rich coming from nips, almost all of their anime/manga industry apes whatever is popular at the time
>>713514806>a country that never developed proper backup etiquette and constantly loses source code is bitching at gaijun for keeping copies of their games in the public sphereDo japs have a fetish for watching their culture die?
>>713519304says the guy from the hemisphere that lost the source code of starcraft 1.
No one has "proper back up etiquette", because having backups is gay as fuck.
>>713518336>1. Copyright isn't real, it's a jewish scheme to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.>2. IP laws aren't real, it's a jewish scheme to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.>3. Patent laws aren't real, It's a jewish scheme to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.OY VEYYYYYYYYYYYY you are a very bad goy. you'll be hearing from my lawyer soon. you're dead stupid gentile
>>713519301they're insecure because their franchise has been shit since the 3DS era
even digimon is about to dunk on them in october
>>713518896Which is a Jewish ideology.
No one can own ideas, except for "us". "We" are God's chosen.
Yokai watch should have won, modern pokemon fanbase and games are a joke.
>>713514782 (OP)Threads like these makes me wish I kept learning japanese, but I just hate learning Kanjis.
>>713515841>White people: get comfy>nipcel: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKEK nippers are so petty
>>713519636learning the pokemon type chart, attacks, abilities and the amount of mon that exist is way more effort than learning kanji
patents are fucking disgusting
>>713519554Yeah, that's the world we live in, which is a bad world.
In a perfect world, nobody, let alone any company, can own an idea. I'm against any company that enforces their "rights" to own ideas.
Disney, nintendo, hollywood, the music industry, fuck all of them.
>>713519753There are over 50000 Kanji, over 2000 of which are commonly used.
>>713514782 (OP)I swear the Japs were on Palworlds side to begin with. There's even an image macro that involves Dark Souls copies and everyone cheers. Then they get to Nintendo and they chimp out.
>>713519895>over 50000basically no one knows anything past 3000. only a few autists can read 6000 (i.e. kanken 1)
>>71351989550k is a meme. 3.5k is probably all you'll need depending on what you do with the language. 3 a day will get you to the common 2k in 2 years.
also the more you know the less often you encounter unknown ones, meaning you'll go from "wtf are all these symbols" to "oh there's a kanji i don't even know yet lol, cool!"
>>713516736Nintendo has ties with the yakuza, they used to pay magazines to review lower or not review at all games from the competition
>the most profitable ip in the world
>>713515841To be fair, that's the fault of the airline.
Why the fuck would you design a seat like that?
>>713520148my roflcopter goes soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi
>>713520154>Why the fuck would you design a seat like that?its cheap, duh
>>713518898>You do understand how allowing the rights of another to be violated means you're setting yourself up for your rights being violated as well?Anon, you're the one advocating for that.
You are aware that pocketpair has no right over this mechanic correct? You're on the side of trampling the rights of others and yourself and you don't realise that because your corporate loyalty is blinding you.
I on the other hand have no issues with this because, as a creator who has original ideas, my rights aren't being trampled and I own my ideas and as a private entity I hostile takeovers are an impossibility.
Supporting pocketpair on the other hand would alter IP law to an extent and alter my rights and show evil corporations like Disney and disney of Japan, Sony, how far they can bend the rules in taking ideas from others.
>Nintendo isWhich they aren't. Atlus and Bamco have their own concepts for capturing for example. Pocketpair are just lazy and chose to steal.
>IronicThat's not what irony is. Irony is saying that you care about rights and that I should care that companies trample on the rights of others while suggesting you should lose your rights if you grow too big.
>So many games and IPs in their NES and SNES days, Then name one.
>Kirby is named after the lawyer who weaseled them out of the King Kong lawsuitYeah, no. King Kong is public domain. You do know what that means, right?
>it's a free marketYeah and fortunately the free market aligns with my ideals which is why there aren't 500 Nintendo's and this industry isn't dead.
>Nintendo is just going to have to suck up having competitionOkay? I don't even know what you're trying to say here anymore. They've always had competition.
>Craftopia's balls are mechanically identical to Palworld'sThey aren't even remotely close, there's no aim mode in Craftopia, the balls home in, you don't have a quick menu.
You haven't played craftopia, have you.
>>713519753I can remember that shit just fine, but when I try to remember the shape of some Kanjis I just learned, I always draw a blank.
Arr rook same to me.
>>713519826>In a perfect world, nobody, let alone any company, can own an idea. I'm against any company that enforces their "rights" to own ideas.Which makes you Jewish. You want a world where they thrive and no one else can, you yourself even called that a perfect world when any non-jew would call that dystopian.
>>713518898>rights to be violatedno such thing kike. in nature there is no imaginary property. in your hubris you greedy corporate cucks have made a mockery of god's creation and there will be retribution for that
>>713520440The only reason your neighbors haven't killed you in your sleep are your rights dumbass
>>713520348Its the jews that are proffiting from owning ideas, not the other way around.
>>713518898>weaseled them out of the King Kong lawsuitNigga, there was no "weaseling out". King Kong was a public domain character.
>>713520485Other way around, it's the people who are profiting on their ideas. The Jews are incapable of doing so which is why they buy their way in.
>>713520470why are you talking about murder you psychopath?
(((intellectual property))) (more like imaginary property lmao) isn't real. you will regret swindling people out of their money and shaking them down
>>713520584Because you claimed there's no such things as rights you fucking retard
New vid
https://x.com/Palworld_EN/status/1937495937393336710
(You) can capture the Eye of Cthulhu.
>>713520547??? The 1% is not "the people", its jews.
The people are middle class men that don't own anything.
Banks are literally protected by laws, when they should be removed and kicked out of every country. You can't just create your own bank due to them owning the idea of a bank.
>>713520262>Anon, you're the one advocating for that.Nah you are
>You are aware that pocketpair has no right over this mechanic correct?Neither does Nintendo
>You're on the side of trampling the rights of others and yourself and you don't realise that because your corporate loyalty is blinding you.Pure projection
>Which they aren'tThey are
>That's not what irony is. Nah your arguments are ironic with a tendency to dip into clowny
>Then name one. Donkey Kong / King Kong, Legend of Zelda / Hydlide, Metroid / Alien
>Yeah and fortunately the free market aligns with my idealsThey pretty fundamentally disagree with your ideals that only Nintendo has the right to make monster capturing games
>Okay? I don't even know what you're trying to say here anymore. They've always had competition.And Pocketpair is going to be more
>>713514782 (OP)Japanese are a bunch of retards, they're actually facing a rice famine right now because of an insanely corrupt corporation that they keep simping for nonstop "because it's japanese"
They're going to starve to death and deserve it honestly.
>>713515109>Corrrect, asian bugmen are barely human as is, this only proves it further.The koreans have some redeeming qualities at least
>>713514782 (OP)>pride channel avartake your tranny tuber fuck outta here
>>713514782 (OP)>you do know they stole nintendo content right?Then Nintendo should sue them for copyright infringement, suing with a different patent is such a douchebag move.
>>713520718>The 1% is not "the people", its jews.Yeah and the 1% aren't the ones making ideas. Man, you Jews are so out of touch.
>>713520667context, retard. you were talking about (((intellectual property rights))). they don't exist. IP is imaginary. you can't own it. if you teach someone a song now you both know it and there's no way to put the cat back in the bag
>>713520940No you were talking about (((intellectual property rights))), I was talking about Pocketpair's rights to make games with mechanics unimpeded
>>713515841>>713516698>He's causing me discomfort, so I'm going to impotently seethe about it on Twitter instead of addressing him!Pathetic.
Bushido is dead.
All of the onions in their diets has thoroughly emasculated them.
>>713520940Just you fucking wait you pirate piece of SHIT
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-JlxuQ7tPgQ
>>713520710>patting the giant eyeballayo what?
That's hilarious.
Death to those that steal Nintendo copyrighted content
Is it hard not to give attention to this OP?
Don't you guys notice he's making literally hundreds of ''why are gaijins bla bla?'' threads per week like this not just on /v/ but also on /int/, /pol/, /sp/, etc??
You may not believe it but he's false flagging. He used to be spamming straightforward anti-Jap shit 24/7 but then he realized it's easier to get attention and let people shit on Japan if he pretends to be a Jap complaining about gaijins and now he's making this kind of threads everywhere. He doesn't even care about video games at all.
It's fucking insane.
>>713514806Reading this when how absolutely derivative all their media has been for 4 decades is insane. No one tell them abput blade runner and escape from New York if they like Snatcher. Or Araki's character names literally all being based of western music artists.
I think there was an unspoken rule in the past about based media of other media, but pokefags are completely shameless drones.
Palworld is slop and Nintendo has every right to defend its rights.
Piracy has been fully incorporated into the public consciousness so normalfags are making it into a trendy political/moral statement as usual.
>>713514806Ok let's make a deal, palworld goes down but gamefreak has to promise it will innovate and stop recicling each pokemon game, deal?
>>713520749Two word responses and no real arguments for those ones I'll just direct you back to the post you clearly couldn't beat
>>713520262Anyway
>Donkey Kong / King Kong, Public domain also formerly a licenced Popeye game. Also it's a game not a movie so the only similarity is... Ape. Not a copy by any stretch of the imagination.
Legend of Zelda / Hydlide,
Again, the only similarity is being top down. They don't play alike at all so not even remotely close to being a copy
Also the original 84 version looked like this.
>Metroid / Alien When did Ripley fight a giant brain in an alien power suit designed by birds?
>They pretty fundamentally disagree with your ideals that only Nintendo has the right to make monster capturing gamesAnon, that goes against you. I'm saying they can use the same concepts, but not mechanics.
You're saying that's impossible and that they would get sued. The existence of competition that isn't a direct copy aligns with me.
>And Pocketpair is going to be moreNot really. Pocketpair won't be much after this.
Gotta love how nips mindlessly cockgobble everything nintendo does now and automatically assume everyone being upset with something nintendo does insist they are "mindless gaijin" and go on to defend every single lawsuit Nintendo has ever done.
What the fuck is wrong with the japanese. What a disgusting, rude, awful people. Even the chinese are better behaved.
>>713521505Forgot my image.
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>>713521561>Even the chinese are better behaved.You're pushing your bait too far.
I mean, I didn't see people campaigning to stop illegal organ harvesting in Japan while I was in Chinatown last week.
Nintendo literally invented videogames and everyone since has been stealing their IP
>>713521025and what do you think nintendo is using to sue pocketpair? patents (aka imaginary property), you retard
>>713516410I'm betting you think that new slop by gamefreak is original to
>>713521691Chinese don't come to 4chan to spam threads like this and scream I should "die for stealing Nintendo's ideas"
The entire board for the past couple of months has been Nintendo shills screaming nonstop about the switch 2
I'm so fucking sick of them.
>>713521505>Public domain So are the catching mechanics Palworld is using ;)
>Also it's a game not a movie so the only similarity is... Ape.Giant ape.. that kidnaps a woman.. and climbs a tall city structure..
>Again, the only similarity is being top down. They don't play alike at all so not even remotely close to being a copy You didn't play it
>When did Ripley fight a giant brain in an alien power suit designed by birds?When did Pokemon have assault rifles you can use to shoot Pokemon?
>Anon, that goes against you. I'm saying they can use the same concepts, but not mechanics.I'm saying they can do whatever they want
>Not really. Pocketpair won't be much after this.Only because Japanese law is cucked, Nintendo is now the same opportunistic aggressor Universal once was against hem
People are so disingenuous when it comes to Palworld. You all know the real problem with the game is most of the designs are shitty blatant knockoffs of existing Pokemon. If Pocket Pair was smart and actually designed all their Pals like how they did some of their original designs they wouldn't be in this mess. Shitty Grass Cinderace and lazy Lucario wasn't worth the losses. Regardless of what Nintendo did they had it coming to them.
>>713521883Stop stealing copyrighted Nintendo content
>>713521789oyyyyyyyyyy veyyyyyyyyy anti-semite
>99% guilty conviction rate
>Japanese "people": this is fine and what every society should strive towards
I can't believe i was a braindead weeb at one point.
>Nintendo tries to patent the concept of a simulation itself
>UUUHHH ACTUALLY THEY ARE BASED BECAUSE MUH CHINK PALWORLD GAME (made by other nips from a nip studio) ARE WRONGBAD AND NINTENDO SHOULD GET A FREE PASS AND OWN ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING BECAUSE THEY ARE MUH JAPANESE DIDNEY WHO CARES ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE REST OF RHE INDUSTET I NEED MUH BOING BOING WAHOO
The future of gaming is anywhere but Japan thanks to this mess.
>>713522001>>99% guilty conviction rate
What does this imply?
>>713514806>If you don't recognize the superiority of originality and can easily copy it, no one will ever produce anything new.The irony of this statement is truly some next level cognitive dissonance.
>>713522124That most japs are criminal scum
>>713514806>>713517161based japs, they really are an entire standard deviation above the west
>>713514782 (OP)These so-called foreigners are just Pokemon / Nintendo haters in general
Who would want to defend a generic Open World 3D Early Access Survival Crafting game in the first place? Normies who hate Pokemon /Nintendo for being popular
>>713515485yeah not a peep from these yellow cunts with those guys yet Palworld makes them chimp out.
>>713514782 (OP)It's not that I side with Palworld, but rather that I side against Nintendo.
>>713515467part of Nintendo's market share
>>713522124That they throw innocent people in the slammer to "preserve peace".
Their police has an entire where they gaslight and guilt trip people into confesing to crimes they never commited to not hurt other peoples feelings qnd disturb the social peace.
>>713522001Japans high conviction rate is because of police being reluctant to take anything they aren't confident about to court.
What do Pokemon stans think about Aniimo?
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/aniimo/9PK8PHLCQDF6
>>713522124They only prosecute when they have a slam dunk case.
Plenty of petty criminals get off.
>>713521883>So are the catching mechanics Palworld is usingBeing patented for several years isn't public domain.
>that kidnaps a woman.. and climbs a tall city structure..Concepts that didn't start with King Kong. In fact, Bluto in Popeye would often do that and Popeye predates King Kong by 4 years if I remember right.
Also public domain.
>You didn't play itYou aren't really going to try and argue that Zelda has a start system and you attack enemies by just walking into them are you?
>When did Pokemon have assault rifles you can use to shoot Pokemon?And how does that take away from pocketpair using the same ball and gliding mechanics?
Or are you going to say that Metroid counts because female protagonist like you did with King Kong and ape?
>I'm saying they can do whatever they wantWhich is what I'm saying, again, you're saying they would get sued for using the same concept, you haven't even touched on the idea of mechanics since you know you'll leg to stand on.
>Only because Japanese law is cuckedYou call it "cucked" but they don't have patent trolling and it's rare that innocent people are jailed there. That's almost exclusively an American issue due to corruption and general ineptitude.
>Nintendo is now the same opportunistic aggressor Universal once was against hemThat would imply Palworld didn't steal an idea, which of course goes against their entire design philosophy of copying.
>>713514782 (OP)Nintendo is a cunt of a company.
>>713522515NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW NOW NOW @FBI @ NINTENDO @JAPAN SOMEONE DO SOMETHING
>>713522194>rice shortage going on in Japan right now>only ONE company is allowed to produce rice because it wouldn't be "honorable" for someone else to step up and enter the marketThey are cattle in human form.
>>713514782 (OP)you will never be japanese
>>713522124Basically in Japan people only take things to court if they absolutely know they're in the right. So very few mistakes are ever actually made in their legal system
>>713522624Fucking kill yourself gaijin scum all you say are lie!
>>713522515Style looks vastly more original than Palworld's.
Good for them.
the fact that there are nintis defending that pokemon is on the right because the patten "mounting monster" 20 years ago, like my bro, if everyone patten everything on this industry it would have die once Nintendo release mario 64
>>713522686Spotted the Microsoft shill
Your pathetic pokemon clone will FAIL
>>713522624>>only ONE company is allowed to produce riceThere's like 500 different rice companies in Japan. The main reason there's a shortage is because people are using rice as a substitute for wheat because of Russia and Ukraine still going at it.
>>713522194you will never be japanese you pathetic self hating retard
>>713522820Who the fuck is talking about pokemon other than you?
>>713520935They are, tho. Elon is part of the 1%
>>713522836I don't hate myself, I just love the japanese
>>713522916well they hate you and that makes you even more pathetic
>>713522676>better let a child rapist go free because i'm scared of putting in effortNice "civilization".
There should be a law against companies who don't innovate.
god i wish Nintendo goes bankrupt and millions of manchildren around the world starting shitting and pissing themselves in anger
>>71352302799.99% of American companies will be death them
>>713522979As opposed to
>I dreamed a man raped me so jail this real person for 28 years
>>713522974Their women love my BWC
>>713522974I think the only person here hating anything is you with the japanese
It's okay when my friend Nintendo does it.
>>713519695>>713521057do you not understand what manners is idiot?
you need to ask person behind first before recline the seat
do gaijin not know in rome do as roman do?
Unironically Nintendo can get away with everything just by pure legacy alone
You know that company in cyberpunk 77 that was ruled by a jap?
That's Nintendo.
>>713523438They get their teeth kicked in from time to time.
>>713523438lol they can't do shit outside of Japan
if Palworld was made by someone in EU or US Nintendo cold literally do nothing
>>713523278This doesn't look like an effective way to deliver information
>>713523537It doesn't mean much when it's in a very corrupt country.
>>713523537>japan complains to mexico for transmitting the tournament of power on live tv>mexico replays with :lol lmao
>>713522515Polished turd, won't be playing
>>713523635But enough about Japan and it's judicial system.
>>713523245Does what, copying a real life of someone playing a go-kart?
Nintendo will be in deep shit this gen
Switch 2 has stopped selling 2 weeks after release, literally in stock everywhere and no one is buying anymore after the first wave of diehard Nintendo fanboys and scalpers
people are fed up with 80โฌ games and game key cards
if we are lucky Nintendo will go down soon or they will be forced to actually make a good product again
>>713514782 (OP)>>713514806>>713516056>>713517161Now everyone, repeat with me:
It's
Okay
When
Nintendo
Does
It
!
Im gonna enjoy the new update tommorow while a bunch of Japs seethe about it
>>713524113it funny how Nintendo pretend that the Switch 2 will be so good that they forced preorders and signups to buy it and yet every store has it in stock ahahahah
>>713524276Always, everyday, everytime.
>>713524276that guy on the right was already directly based off of the brazillian on the left
>>713514782 (OP)Nippon fuming is so hilarious almost as cope as wh*tes
>>713515467They stole the good ideas from tendies brain, that's why they haven't made a good game for 24 years.
>>713524451>That makes it okay to copy the idea of him being partned up with a loli!
>>713524585they mostly did their own things in the movie
>>713524365Same with my wife Zoe
>>713524365While i was checking the news i saw MS said the update was out and it has a pal i hadn't seen before on it
>>713523537They have lost cases in Japan as well you just have search engine it.
>>713518574NO RIBBUNNY YOU DON'T GET THE BIG PICTURE NINTENDIE ARE THE GOOD GUYS HERE!!! MAKING GAMES THAT ARE LIKE TENDIE GAMES IS BAD DESPITE THE FACT THAT TENDIES FIRST GAME WAS A RIP OFF OF KING KONG EVEN DOWN TO THE NAME TENDIE ARE THE GOOD GUYS HERE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>713524276Nintendo is so shameless, holy shit.
And Tendies want to talk about Palworld...
>>713525054>tendie gets mad when he learns the truth
>>713514782 (OP)i dont even care if they copied it or not, i just hate the use of litigation to stifle gaming creativity
if pokemon can be a concept used in other ways they should be, didnt stop monster hunter, or yokai watch, or persona, or dragon warrior
same thing for the nemesis system, and bloobers dual rendering tech, loading screen mini games, segas directional arrow,
small technical details that you either have to design around or rework to be "distinct"
thats why palworld got caught on flying mechanics and the liek
>>713524871Cute Squirrel, personally gunning for this one for the update
>>713525081Remember when they also accused Palworld of using AI?
They've been awfully quiet lately, after the bombshell Sakurai dropped.
Allege them to be of what you are, accuse them of what you do.
>>713525005They don't have a case here. It's just a clumsy attempt to intimidate the "small indie studio" and discourage others from similar behaviour.
>>713525193why are they running around with turkish flags
>>713522172kim stop your jealousy
only japanese can make original content
you korean and chinese only can copy japanese entertainment
>>713525263Absolutely disgusting.
They have no morals.
>>713525293It's getting a few localization's in the update.
>>713525168>i just hate the use of litigation to stifle gaming creativitythis
if pokemon with guns was so egregious where were the C+D letters when trailers dropped years ago?
>>713514782 (OP)nintendo cucks really are the worst kind of brand cultists. doesn't matter if le west or le "east".
Yeah palworld sucks but that shouldn't be an argument for why bulling smaller companies should be ok.
>>713525474I don't know, go ask them
be sure to also @ the FBI in your request
>>713525523it's better than every pokemon game from the last 20 years tho
babu
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>>713514782 (OP)Foreigners like to manipulate names and call it plapworld.
>>713524113switch 2 is all time high sales idiot
even tech demo welcome tour was massive success
only idiot gaijin pirate was complaining about the game
in japan everyone loved it and say it was innovative game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDKqN0482ko
>>713514782 (OP)Vocal JP minority
>>713514782 (OP)>japanese side with ni->https://steamcommunity.com/app/1623730/reviews/?browsefilter=toprated&snr=1_5_100010_&filterLanguage=japanese>literally ~95% of reviews are positive
>>713514782 (OP)I side against any survival-crafting game.
>>713525581As much as I don't like today's Pokemon I can still enjoy older releases up to gen 5 now and then and Palworld's gameplay doesn't replace that
>>713525803NOO DELETE THIS THEY TOLD ME TENDIE WERE THE GOOD GUYS
>>713525787no one cares what japs think
>>713526019Today's pokemon games are worse than red/blue, they look like shit, run like shit and have terrible stories. Also if you've played one pokemon game, you've played them all.
Palworld is new and fresh, a monster capture/survival/management mix. It might be in early access, but this game actually has potential, unlike Pokรฉmon which will be exactly the same in 20 years as it is now.
>>713525803Notice how all of these reviews are well over a year old and let's laugh at how dead Palshit is. Remember when you guys went on a smug, board-wide takeover? Now the game is dead, that's funny.
>>713526286>but this game actually has potentialsoooo true it's going to be a huge franchise with merchandise in all the big stores and a show and a card game
>>713526425It's not going away, you can bet on that. I doubt it'll end up as popular as Pokemon but then again anything could happen over the next 20 years
>>713526286I don't disagree, it's more like the enjoyment I get from Palworld is fundamentally different from something like HGSS so I wouldn't call either better
>>713516056Literally fucking dragon quest why are poketards so illiterate?
>>713526609Not one ugly shitmon from this game is going to replace the mantle of Pikachu. Hope you anticipate that with future disappointment for the next 20 years though.
>>713526425No that's why Nintendo shut it down as fast as they could and you will never be getting a good Pokemon game, Id say again but id be lying if any of them are good, Full living dex and shiny dex (minus locks), Have never injected either btw.
>>713526732lol tendie rage, so sweet. Can you tell me the winning lottery numbers while you've got your crystal ball out?
>>713525803only zainichi buy this shameless copy game
majority japanese do not play pc games
japanese side with nintendo
japanese comments:
It's too convenient for them to say, โGive me a break because I'm an indieโ after they've done a lot of extensive business.
To be honest, if it was just played on pc, it would have been overlooked.
But if a new company is created and character goods are developed, people will confuse the two, so we can't leave it at that.
It could destroy the corporate effort that has built up to the point where both children who want it and adults who buy it are Pokรฉmon fans.
Palwa has no respect for Pokemon or Nintendo, which is unacceptable.
It was a bad to work with SONY.
I'm not sure if they were aiming for this timing or for the downfall of Palworld, but the timing was perfect for a sure catch, and Nintendo's legal department was very clever in inflicting an absolute fatal blow. It was like that with the PuniCon lawsuit.
Nintendo waiting until they could pay
just got sanctioned as a result of their inflated agitation
If they allow this to happen, others will do whatever they want.
They are wrestling with other people's loincloths, so let's keep moderation and morals.
It's the same for games and other genres.
If you pursue the root of the story, it comes down to "lack of morals."
Pal sold well because of the buzz among foreigners who generally like violence.
It was very offensive that they intentionally made it look like Pokemon and marketed the fact that you could play by breaking the Pokemon worldview.
I hated this game, so I'm glad.
It's terrible. It's not just a resemblance, it's a collage. I don't understand the ethics of people who can be this provocative.
Nintendo side is more criticized in foreign countries, the ethics of foreign countries and Japan is totally different.
I think they are like "It doesn't matter if you commit a crime as long as it sells!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0_vWD_HO5o
>>713526838>said the retard predicting the worlds largest media franchise is going to be dethroned by it's temu knock-off
>>713524871I want that plant bird thing.
>>713526830>shut it downThey did? Seems like it's still up, just hemorrhaging players. I guess people discovered that it's shit on their own.
>>713526838So mad that your shitty game that was doing 3 mil concurrent players is under 40k lmfao but yeah it's going to be the next big thing any day now :)
what video game mechanic would you retroactively patent?
I think Japan is onto something and then I remember the current state of Akihabara and wonder how it got to the point that they actually just shill gacha shit there, and some of those games aren't even Japanese
Hell, I'd maybe agree with them if the current state of Pokemon wasn't laughable. At the end of the day a fun game is a fun game; an unfun game is not
>>713526843that is 80 years ago idiot
your president is now bow deep to emperor
japanese emperor is over 2600 year unbroken lineage and longest monarch of world
your country is only 250 year old
know your place idiot
>>713527098>I guess people discovered that it's shit on their own.Palworld has a movie? cause that's 1 hell of a projection you got blaring.
>>713527230But palworld is more fun than modern pokimon...
>>713527304That's what I was trying to imply.
>>713526305And yet, here you are, seething...
What a controversion, huh? Must be hard thinking about a "dead game" 24/7. I can't understand why.
>>713527542BLOODY BASTERD DELET THIS
>>713527256Obama is really flexible
Trump and Biden would probably fall over or shit himself bending down that far.
Glad they are focusing on white piggu and them reclining their chairs, while the hordes of browns are sneaking en mass in their country.
>>713527256>pray to amaterasu-sama>get rewarded with constant earthquakes, hurricanes and tsunamis
>>713514782 (OP)Japs are retarded, I've never heard a single good opinion coming from one
>>713527256>japanese emperor is over 2600 year unbroken lineage and longest monarch of worldThe claim that they go back to 660 BC and are descended from the goddess Amerterasu is not really taken seriously, but since your a weebfaggot you probably believe it
>>713516272tranny incel basemen dweller white skinny perma online nerd sir
>>713527256Yet, that paper tiger of a dynasty cried like a baby with just two bombs...
"UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER"! LMAO, not even the Nazis were this much of a bitch, at least they fought street by street, house by house.
And now Japan a vassal state to the great US of A... so much for"Great Emperor", huh?
>>7135279493rd times the charm.
>>713527861there is many evidence jimmu tenno existed idiot
>>713527949japan win in ww2
japanese army liberate asia from western colonial which was objective of great east asia war
it is european who is real loser of ww2
learn history idiot
>>713514782 (OP)Japan can't make good games anymore, let alone recognize good games.
>thread devolves into random spam about japan le bad muh nukes they did 1 million Nanking rapes
If you thought the chinese and indians don't shill here, I hope you changed your mind by now.
>>713514782 (OP)Why are the nips such corporate cocksuckers? They would fucking defend Nintendo patenting jumping.
>>713528818At some point you have to understand that maybe it's not only the Japanese government that is bad, maybe the people themselves approve of their actions. So "the people" is a valid target after all.
>>713528597>Japan won by surrendering unconditionally to the burgers and becoming a demilitarized state that can't govern itself without the US Senate giving its OK to whatever it wants to do up to this day, being forced to host several Burger Military Bases, where Corporal Jamal goes poon hunting from time to time, ravishing the local yamato nadeshiko with gusto!Okay, you got me to take the bait. Congratulations.
>>713514782 (OP)Because we disagree and find Nintendo's treatment of Pokรฉmon offensive and pathetic.
>>713525263It's okay when Nintendo does it.
>>713526305>dead gameHoney BooBoo child?
>>713517108>amerifats are influenced by nigger culture>act like niggers in foreign landshocker
>>713518336copyright/IP law/patent law are actually supposed to be anti-industry jew, the original idea was that they would prevent big companies from just stealing some solo dude or small company's genius idea and use their resources to utterly out compete them without paying the creator of the actual idea a cent
so their ideas would be protected for a few years so they can actually act on them, then they'd become free for all
industry jews corrupted the laws so instead they could extend the duration forever and sit their ass on IPs until the end of time, they can buy out almost anyone with good ideas anyways
>>713521057Japanese hate confrontation but if he asked to have him move the seat, the white guy probably would have done it. Its just nip autism at its finest
To disrespect our GLORIOUS Nintendo is to disrespect our GLORIOUS NIPPON
>>713514782 (OP)Because we have principles that prevent us from blindly sucking corpo cock when it comes to intellectual property jurisprudence
>>713514806I've noticed a lot of Japanese have no idea what the lawsuit is actually about. They think its about the designs (which aren't even the same) when its about a patent. I've seen when they understand its about patents, they are less supportive of it. But I'm sure Japan has a lot of insane Pokemon simps who have gaslight everyone about the lawsuit.
Nintendo will lose just like with Tear Ring Saga
Because modern pokemon game look pigdisgusting
Palworld looks much better than modern pokemon games. It's almost more serious, it doesn't have that "catering to children and pedos" vibe to it
>>713519636don't bother anon. experiencing japanese culture firsthand is a class A psychic hazard.
>>713529482Pokemon also falls to these numbers like 2 weeks after release maybe a bit higher id say 50-80k after the "bought it anyway" wears off.
>>713514806Damn I hate japs now, chink media deserves to take their spot
>>713530806I want a Chinese gacha girl in bloomers to sit on my face
What a retarded thread, 4chan is extremely stupid as ever. By the way, Pocket Pair sucks and so do their fans.
>>713525772kek
>>713514806pokemon fans are such a weird subgroup of tendies. they are like the tendies of tendies
>>713531402otaku shit exists in its own safe space bubble because the rest of japanese culture is based around inane social rules derived from nobles bullying peasants 500 years ago. learning japanese to watch animu or play vidya or whatever is fine but don't go off the reservation
This blue noodle mindbroke MILLIONS of tendies
uh this isn't actually a palworld thread is it? i just want to know when is the update coming out, i know it's the 25th but like at what time and is it jap time so it actually comes out today or not?
*BRRRRAAAAAAPPPPPPP*
Take your low quality thread with you and kill yourself.
>>713532313Not official
Europe = UTC+0 = 3am 25 Jun
US = UTC-7 = 10am 25 Jun
Asia = UTC+8 = 7pm 24 Jun
>>713532313official palworld thread gets posted on /vp/, so it's not this thread
>>713532962Ah, the "P" stands for Palworld! I knew it!
>>713519636In case that's what you're wondering about, not all japanese are corporate bootlickers. In general the opinion towards Nintendo regarding this problem tends to be far more negative on anonymous forums/blogs/boards.
As an example (the OP talks about what patents are relevant to the case and the amount of money requested by Nintendo):
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/10286569.html
1. Human garbage
2. It's bullying!!!!!
3. Big win for Nintendo :p
4. Nintendo truly is a garbage company
5. The lawsuit is just bullying for scraps lol
6. Pretty cheap compared to shironeko (another case)
7.(informational post)
8. Some idiotic nintendo faithfuls are complaining about how Palworld wrote the patent application dates (referring to how it's making nintendo look bad because all three patents are newer than the lawsuit and palworld)
9. Even on X people are waking up to the craziness of Nintendo and its believers lol
10. Palworld is the one that made light of them first, no?
There are 2666 comments so I'm not going to translate all of it, but as you can see there's no real consensus.
Some more comments in the first 50 or so because it's fun to read:
18. Patented after the fact. No surprise that they're hated by gamers all over the world lol
23. The trollest of trolls (referring to patent trolling)
29. As a japanese I'm ashamed Nintendo
32. Pure envy lol. How pathetic Nintendo.
34. Nintendo is the gaming world's cancer lol
38. Hasn't Nintendo fallen off too much? Stop trying to crush some small studio and make fun games instead.
42. Hajisarashido, really. (disgracedo, making fun of the name, there are also a few tokkyogorodo here and there for patent-trollingdo)
>>713514782 (OP)foreigners side with palworld because its a better game. my opinion of japanese has declined a lot in past months, also because of their low rating for clair obscur. i am no longer surprised that they are a civilization in rapid decline. fortunately the chinese have not just replaced the gap left by japanese but are actually turning out to be much better than japan ever was. i cant wait for all the amazing chinese games that will be released in the coming years
>>713534897Pocketpair forgot to pay the Nintendo Tax, or should I say "Nintendo Cut". Had they paid the Nintendo Tax, this would've never happened.
Picrel is Palworld fans
>>713535119They didn't show their respect. Didn't give them enough face. One should never mess with yakuzado.
>>713529482Its already going back up damn, it's probably hitting 100k again for the update tommorow, AAA games beg on their knees for numbers like those
>>713517663Except Nintendo didn't create any of ideas they patented because patent law in japan only cares about who files the patent first not any notion of ownership over an idea. In fact most of the ideas they're accusing PocketPair of stealing were only patented retroactively by grafting onto an older patent.
This practice is common among Japanese corporations just because using patents to legally bludgeon rivals is far safer than risking their trademarks in court.
>>713535119Can't wait for you to seethe hard when Palworld gets 100k+ players with tomorrow's update
>>713514782 (OP)They stole from Digimon as well and you don't see Toei or Bandai Namco trying to sue
>>713519636I wouldn't really bother at this point anon. It's not the late 00s/early 10s when your only hope of playing a nip game was learning the language or waiting 6 years for a fan translation, basically all nip media that kanjigrinders use to brag about is now available to you.
Guess that other thread wasn't going so well.
>>713527949>so much for"Great Emperor", huh?The emperor didn't even want the war though, Japan got involved because of a literal coup by the military.
>>713537475It wont.
At best i estimate it will be 80k. Maybe 95 if we're lucky. Still a good number but not 100k+.
I am ready to be proven wrong however
>>713538852It had over 200k concurrent players during Feybreak btw
>>713538997Fair enough
>Brainlet_katress.jpg
>>713514782 (OP)Japcvcks are entitled faggots who think that being the first to make something popular gives them the right to the market and the right to become lazy and produce slop nobody asks for.
This isn't just about Nintendo, it's several of their markets in general that are in decadence because they refuse to listen to what the people want and just make garbage to stroke their own egos (the miriad of isekai of the 2020's and moeshit of the 2010's).
This is however backfiring BADLY since they are losing every single one of their markets at a crazy rate. Games and Gacha? Raped by Korea, China and even some random countries (ZZZ, Genshin, Nikke, Blue Archive, Black Myth Wukong, Stellar Blade, E33). Anime? Solo Leveling's popularity pretty much destroyed anything the japcvcks have released in the last 2 decades.
And they deserve it, I really hope they go bankrupt like 5-10 years from now.
>>713539741She tries her hardest
>>713523278Good thing the japs economy is dying and they're people are suffering lol
I used to think blizzdrones were the most mentally ill users on /v/ but now I'm pretty certain it's tendies
>>713539929>Japcvcks are entitled faggots who think that being the first to make something popular gives them the right to the marketObviously not or their side of the industry wouldn't be so varied.
>>713537170>because patent law in japan only cares about who files the patent first not any notion of ownership over an idea.Who told you that? Japanese patent offices have prior art too you know. Hell it's more strict than it is in the west.
It's funny seeing the japanese complain about plagiarism so heavily when one of the biggest franchises there, Dragon Quest, started as a ripoff of Ultima
>>713543625There's a fine line between a rip off and being inspired by something anon.
In the case of DQ it clearly has its own visual style, mechanics and themes that set it apart from Ultima.
The problem is that you and most people in the west don't understand that difference. You just see
>same genre? Same game!And leave it at that.
>>713530806We make fun of western tendies but Jap tendies and jap pokefags are 1000% worst.
>>713543625Let me guess you also think that demon's souls is a rip off of Zelda because they said they were inspired by it.
>>713525263sakurai is a hack but i think this is a mistransaltion
>>713543871>>713544119Play the first four Ultima games and tell me again that DQ1 isn't a downgraded ripoff
>>713514806Japs and weebs are so insufferable it makes me glad the place is getting flooded with jeets and pakis
>>713544293Have you played them? Because I don't think you have.
Hell, I bet you've only ever played pokemon. No one experienced with rpgs would be this mad over it otherwise.
>>713519449>they're insecure because their franchise has been shit since the 3DS eraInteresting how every single "Palworld fan" always gives this exact same timeframe.
I wonder what makes Palworld better than Gen 6 but worse than Gen 5.
>>713544631Odd that you would single out gen 5 when that would encompass 1 TO 5.
>>713543526>or their side of the industry wouldn't be so variedIt's literally all isekais and before that it was all SoL moeshit.
>>713544138>This kills the nip
>>713544770We're talking about games kiddo, not your favorite manga genres.
>>713514782 (OP)What exactly did they steal?
Also, copyright just stifles creativity.
>>713544770>he's not reading Yukizuriman's one night stand
>>713544617Holy projection lmao. Here's a last (You)
>>713514782 (OP)I don't care what the chinks think. They made pso2 new Genesis so who gives a fuck what they side with.
Secondly we dropped two suns on them so they are our bitch. They still feel the effects of us to this day every time they have to put mosaic on anime pussy and visa dicks around with their games
>>713514782 (OP)Nintendo had to outsource their massive RPG launch title and IP. They launched with Deltarune, made by a clearly queer American lol. Kids play Frottnite, Pokeymans dead.
>>713544868They stole several patented, not copywritten, mechanic that was filed about 3 years before the release of Palworld with none of the mechanics appearing in the original Palworld trailer.
Also, copyright enables creativity by preventing people from creating exact copies.
>>713544997>admitting you only play pokemonI suspected as much.
>>713514782 (OP)THIS FAGGOT ANON IS JUST FARMING REPLIES FOR TWITTER VIEW FARMING. HE'S GOING TO POST THESE REPILES ONTO JAP BOARDS TOO.
>>713545347To be fair anti-Nintendo kids are the best for that. You don't even have to try and they come out with nonsense like
>LAWS DON'T APPLY TO ME I'LL SUE NINTENDO!
>>713545092>mechanic patenYeah, as I said, cancer that stifles games. Mechanics should absolutely not be patented.
Because that leads to same company making same style of game, with their own shit aesthetics.
While some other company could use said mechanics with different aesthetics I might like.
Also, we live in the world of reboots, ramakes and constant sequels, so don't get me started about "preventing copies".
>>713545347HEY TWITTER
YOU ARE NIGGERS and NIPNIGGERS
I hope he includes this.
>>713545924>Mechanics should absolutely not be patented.They definitely should be, patenting mechanics leads to growth, innovation and improvement on old ideas. Without patenting mechanics video games would have stagnated a long time ago.
>Because that leads to same company making same style of game, with their own shit aesthetics.No not really. You can't inherently survive by copying the same thing over and over, your audience would get tired of your games quickly so even when you own your mechanics and IP you still have to improve upon them and add new ideas to the mix.
>While some other company could use said mechanics with different aesthetics I might like.And they do. Look at the assortment of monster tamer games with capture mechanics that differ from pokemon. It's a sea of unique ideas. Even within the pokemon series itself there are a few unique ones in the spin offs like the capture styler in the ranger series.
The mistake you're making us that you can't separate the idea of the concept from the idea of the mechanic and you think that no one will ever be able to have capture mechanics just because one extremely specific one belongs to someone.
Basically, PLA's three input, object toss wouldn't prevent a grenade like cooking mechanic with an object that homes in.
Also if an entity owns a property they're free to do with it as they please as the owner. It's their right, not yours.
>>713546540>You can't inherently survive by copying the same thing over and over,Evidently you can, looking at modern sequel slop.
Nintodler slop too.
Basically no - games should cater to my own tastes and no copyright and patent bullshit that is designed to monetary benefit some company should stand in the way. End of story.
>>713514806japs are the real shabbos goys
>>713522686the style looks like a shitty gacha game
>>713514806These people are utter retards, and many don't even realize the lawsuit is about corrupted patent law instead of copyright. By the same ridiculous logic we'd only ever have one maker of each genre of game, regardless of how poorly made or stale it got. Devs shouldn't have to reinvent the wheel each time to ensure they don't use the patented circle shape. It's made even worse by the fact that nintendo took similar inspiration for many of their designs and they choose to ignore that completely.
reminder that the OP of this thread is possibly the same fag who's also making these threads
>>713547462Of course it is. This whole thing is a fucking thinly veiled falseflag attempt
>>713523278I guaranty that is a "white" person holding that thing up.
>>713547462I do wonder what's his goal though. Is it content farming like
>>713545347 says? Does he just like this topic? It feels like it might be reverse psychology shilling against Nintendo. But then again I have seen places where the same kind of argumentation is pushed 100% unironically so I'm not confident.
>>713514782 (OP)>>713522515I honestly think we're eating good; as a monster collecting/adventuring fan this is great to have so many options. Don't understand all the buttjacked Reeeee responses or corpo dick sucking. Stay mad I guess.
>>713514782 (OP)We don't side with Nintendo because of the terrible precedent this would set for game development. Imagine a world where Nintendo still exists as a company, but stops making games. Someone wants to make a game similar to Pokemon, shouldn't be a problem as Nintendo hasn't done anything with it for a decade, right?
Oops, no, sorry. Nintendo feels like you are shitting on them, so they are going to throw a bitch fit and sue you because they have patents on "Throwing a ball shaped object to capture things". No one wants this to become the standard, with companies becoming draconic on just what can and can't be used in games. People already threw a shit fit over the loss of minigames on loading screens because Bandai Namco patented that. Stop trying to make video games worse for everyone else because you can't stand the thought of someone doing a game concept better. Why are we settling for mediocirty from a dev that clearly can't handle the work load and a shitty company that can't have a series take a 2 year break?
>>713514806>>713543916We already know what Pokefags are like here who despite making fun of shit like the tree textures or dex genocide they still buy it and propel it to the top of the charts. This is the childhood manchild captive problem by 1000x worse.
If Pokemon did actually sue Palworld because of the likeness then I could start to see why.
But no, pokรฉmon sued palworld because of some abstract patent. Which means I will support palworld.
>>713546782>Evidently you can, looking at modern sequel slop.>Nintodler slop too.You'd have a point if you were talking about someone like Sony who's sequels aren't any different beyond the story. Square and final fantasy are also an example of going too far in the other direction and making things too different for their audience.
It's kind of ironic that you're thinking like this by the way, because you basically want what they're currently doing but not attached to that company so basically if you had an indie dev make something like God of War Ragnarok you'd probably suck their cock clean just because it wasn't Sony.
>Devs shouldn't have to reinvent the wheel each time to ensure they don't use the patented circle shape. And they don't have to. They could pay to use the patent that alresfy exists or slightly alter it into a distinct one. Only Jews would openly want exact copies because they don't have a creative bone in their body.
>nintendo took similar inspiration for many of their designs and they choose to ignore that completely.Well, no not really, Nintendo barring the Iwata era is probably one of the most creative developers. Either way that's the point, they were inspired to make their own not a copy.
>>713548363It's obvious he wants people to hate the Nintendo fanbase which is why he constantly replies in his own thread over and over with nonsense like this
>>713528952>>713529168
>>713548602OP, patents aren't abstract. They're an objective method.
Copyright is subjective and abstract.
>>713519301>>713549564How many unique hashes is that now OP?
>>713527017>Temu pokรฉmon is doing so badly it's outselling our games and we need to sue them to stop.Poor tendie. I think all the shit you've been eating is giving you brain damage.
>>713548826honestly i don't get these threads palworld is genuinely improving i thought it was going to be abandoned once they got a lawsuit but no they kept trucking and continuing to update they're game and taking their time to make the update and are listening to the complaints of unoriginality like what was saw in the new update trailer i thought i was going to see chimeras creatures but it seems they learned i hope they change the designs of some their older creatures with their own designs but in my opinion i don't really like the patent lawsuit cause it's not what they should've sued for and if japs are really honorable they should've sued it for what they think they should've sued it for instead of pussying out scared of losing money and not really caring about artistic integrity
>>713550742>i don't get these threadsWhat's not to get, it's not like they enjoy Palworld. It's just a tool for shitposting.
I can't wait to go on an adventure with Zoe. I wonder if she's able to work in the base?
>>713515841I was on a Japanese flight and the oji-san behind me tattled on a waitress to put my seat back up. What's the point in being able to recline if you can't use it? I had a fucked disc so it pissed me off something major
>>713523102>>I dreamed a man raped me so jail this real person for 28 yearsif it works in america it should work in the entire world
>>713514782 (OP)They filed the patents AFTER palworld released lol... quite literally not stealing
>>713514782 (OP)I don't know why Nintendo has so many defenders.
Palworld is just taking the concept of monster ranching and mashing it up with an ARK-style survival game. The Pals are just pokemon inspired designs coupled with the sphere mechanics from poke balls.
This is literally just a blend idea that media has witnessed thousands of times across all mediums.
But on /v/ I consistently see 400 post threads where it seems like 85% of the anons are tripping over their own dick to try to convince the world that Palworld needs to be made illegal and the dev team put in jail.
I think this board has a tendie bent or something
>>713514782 (OP)They haven't made a good pokemon game in 10 years. Meanwhile Palworld happens and does something new and interesting. Ain't hard to figure out.
>>713514782 (OP)>We refuse to make good games.>You aren't allowed to make good games either.
>>713552379>This is literally just a blend idea that media has witnessed thousands of times across all mediums.Except in those case you don't have people lifting mechanics in their entirety and they tend to have their own artstyle.
I don't understand why you Palworld fans just don't get that it isn't about Nintendo, it's the fact that they're just shamelessly stealing from whoever they can and it's not just pokemon, they've been doing it from the very beginning of their career.
>try to convince the world that Palworld needs to be made illegal and the dev team put in jail.No, you're just a diehard corporate cock sucker who feels personally offended when people shit on pocketpair.
>>713553037Want to know the sad part? Before Palworld no one would have dared to defend pocketpair but the moment they steal from Nintendo /v/'a opinion of them just became incredibly positive and they were slurping the semen from their japs eye.
>>713548932That's the obvious problem. You can compare the mechanics of the games and see that they us different methods. As a quick example, when capturing a pal you have an rng roll that will then increase the probability of the next roll where capture happens when the probability reaches 100%. Pokemon games use one or more rolls of rng with the same probability where capture happens ones you succeed in the required number of rolls. They look similar in practice and serve the same purpose, but they use different methods to accomplish the same concept. At the very least, they are more different than hiding a part of the d-pad under the controller case that allowed Sony to avoid Nintendo's d-pad patent. Rather than suing them over copying the objective methods in the patent, they actually are suing them over abstract concepts that look a bit similar and hoping the judge will side with the more well known company.
>>713514782 (OP)They didn't steal shit lol. Pokemon is more suspect from copying Dragon Quests monster recruiting system, but even more directly - the capturing mechanic and game's premise is even more similar to Linda 3. Most of the shit Palworld is being hit for is shit that Nintendo patented after the game already came out lmao. Hypocrites.
>>713553686>when capturing a pal you have an rng roll that will then increase the probability of the next roll where capture happens when the probability reaches 100%Anon, that's how it works in pokemon too, that's what the ball shaking/jumping is. The rng is just faster.
>>713544631It's fun, and a completely different genre for one. Pals offer plenty of base building and traversal abilities which would normally be items in other types of survival/basebuilding games. It's barely even comparable to pokemon. It's a more fun version of something like Valheim
>>713553764>Linda 3You've never even played Linda cubed have you.
>>713553996That... Doesn't have anything to do with what he said.
>>713553910It is not how it works in Pokemon. All of the mechanics are well documented and you can look them up on Bulbapedia.
>>713514782 (OP)copyrighting a game mechanic is not supposed to be legal in the west. it still happens, but per the law it shouldn't.
also filing copyright -after- the fact and then trying to sue retroactively is, simply, disgusting. it boggles my mind that japanese courts allow this backwards behavior.
>>713554123Then maybe you should look at them or better yet, look at the patent itself. It's not a private document.
>>713554038I'm on Scenario C right now on the PSX version. Also started up the original version as well, going off what I remember from scenario A. Cope. The eagle sword is based btw. Yet again, Pokemon shouldn't be so stringent about these autistic similarities for a game that isn't competing with pokemon (rather Valheim) when it's premise is still so similar to Linda 3.
>>713554132>copyrighting a game mechanic is not supposed to be legal in the west. it still happensIt's never happened.
>>713553686Anon this seems like splitting hairs
>>713554206>when it's premise is still so similar to Linda 3.You haven't even gone into any kind of detail to even prove that point.
>>713554261namco's minigame in place of loading screen
WB's nemesis system
>>713514782 (OP)I only care that Palworld has lost content as a result as it's the only part of this that affects me. As a Westerner I don't hold the belief that everything has a spirit or whatever so I don't care if Nintendo or any other non-human is stolen from
>>713554186I have looked at them. There is no variable to change the probability based on the previous rolls. If the mechanics Nintendo's patent actually does cover the mechanics in PalWorld rather than or in addition to the mechanics in Pokemon, then they should actually put them in the games. Palworld's implementation of the concepts work generally work better and improve the game.
>>713554276Splitting hairs is important for patents. Sony avoided Nintendo's d-pad patent by simply hiding part of the d-pad under the controller case. It functioned practically the same and served the same purpose, but a slight different in shape prevented infringement. Nintendo doesn't own the concept of RNG or capturing monsters in a ball, but a specific implementation of the method to do that. Plus, the patent covers the whole process rather than just the capture conditions where there are more differences.
>>713553686>they actually are suing them over abstract concepts that look a bit similarNTA but you know the mechanic functions in almost the exact same way in that it's a three input method that puts you into an aiming mode where the controls are changed to strafe when moving left and right and an object is thrown at a creature character where rng is used to determine capture, right?
This isn't abstract or a matter of "looking similar", it's the same, it's objective.
Going
>but the rng is different that means the whole thing is! Is irrelevant
>>713514806Japs really are the biggest fucking bootlickers known to man, Jesus this is pathetic. 2 nukes wasn't enough.
>>713554442That's a patent, not copyright.
They don't prevent people from using those ideas which is why Bandai had minigames in their loading screens without paying before they merged.
This how how innovation dies. By preventing others from using such mechanics, you remove competition so no one else can play around with it and put their own spin on it.
>>713554361I don't need to prove anything, if he played the game himself - he'd instantly recognize the similarities.
>Dragon Quest clone in terms of combat>Entire premise of game is travelling the game world, capturing monsters instead of being a generic saving the world RPG>(Certain) animals can be trained as party members in Linda 3 as wellThat's enough because it's basically the premise of both games. If you're to argue that's too generic, look back at when they released lol. There were barely any similar types of games with a monster capture mechanic (especially with the emphasis on capturing them all) outside of Dragon Quest.
Pokemon bares more similarities to Palworld, than Pokemon does to Palworld.
>B-but pokemon let's you train all creatures you captured and customize their movesets! Plus the badge league!Of course the games won't be 1:1 the same you retard, but again - the emphasis on capturing all the creatures of the ecosystem was unique.
Meanwhile, Majora's Mask even takes the ticking clock till doomsday from an an astral body as well lmao. I guess Nintendo should be sued!
>>713554682>then they should actually put them in the gamesWhich they did.
>Palworld's implementation of the concepts work generally work better and improve the game.Of course it works, they copied them.
>>713554905>Pokemon bares more similarities to Linda 3, than Pokemon does to Palworld.Oops that's what I meant. Cut it with this garbage "hurr you didn't play it" shit.
>>713554682>Nintendo doesn't own the concept of RNG or capturing monsters in a ball, but a specific implementation of the method to do that. Plus, the patent covers the whole process rather than just the capture conditions where there are more differences.In other words, you're in agreement with the people against palworld.
>>713553686>and hoping the judge will side with the more well known company.they are not hoping, they are bribing the judge
You know it's strange when Google translate accurately translates moonrunes.
>>713554809game mechanics aren't really supposed to be patented either, although that's less a specific mandate and more a general principle tied in to patents not supposing to be too broad.
not that the understaffed and underpaid patent clerks care.
>>713554905>I don't need to prove anythingYou made the claim, you have to prove it.
That's how it works.
>>713554989>>Pokemon bares more similarities to Linda 3, than Pokemon does to Palworld.Then prove it, name some similarities. All you've done is to
>it's maybe like this...Without any kind of explanation whatsoever.
You just look like a diehard palworld fanboy right now who's desperately trying to convince people that it's not a lazy combination of pokemon and ark.
>>713554729Why does Palworld's implementation of aiming feel better of they are objectively the same? If they are the same, they should feel the same to use. More importantly, if they actually were the same, that just means Nintendo didn't invent it. PalWorld copied the basic 3rd person aiming controls that have existed long before Pokemon. GameFreak is just out of touch, so they think they invented something when they came up with their clunkier version.
>>713554935>Which they did.Then why do the Pokemon mechanics work differently?
>>713555009The people against PalWorld like I am replying to above are trying to claim that the mechanics are the same. The point of supporting PalWorld is that the mechanics are different. Using pal spheres and how they are managed as part of your inventory is different. Capture mechanics are different. Use of the Pals after capture is different.
>>713555032They shouldn't be, because game design is iterative and competitive at nature. Copying mechanics would allow for unfair monopolized of concepts, and prevent others from improving on a concept. The plagiarism and copywrite stuff should only be relevant if a company stole code. Think about how many programs by different companies that do the same things, or how many movies improve off of concepts established by other films. It's retarded.
The US compared to Japan is quite similar to comparing Africa to the US. Americans don't want to admit it, but their intense desire for freedom, individuality, and self-expression is counterintuitive to what makes a functioning society. In the US, it's normal to assume that everyone is trying to fuck you over or grift or hustle you. It's normal to receive constant spam calls or texts. Information theft is a daily occurrence. It's almost encouraged to steal from stores because you believe they screw you over more. And Americans can't fathom that Japanese typically don't have these problems (except when tourists visit and act like assholes). If they hear something like "take your garbage home", they are defiant and believe that they're getting screwed over. Why would you try to help a society that fucks you over? Except Japanese society is built on everyone working together and BEING a community, something that Americans think of as a fairy tale. And that's why Americans to Japanese are the equivalent of Africans in lawless hellholes like Sudan, people who have been utterly broken by their society, who have to adapt to the cheating to survive.
You ever hear about someone in LA calling the cops on a person saying hi while walking past each other? Because a beaten dog will flinch and growl at whoever walks by, and Americans are the mangiest mutts that have ever been beaten down.
>>713555254The entire game is about travelling the world collecting animals retard. That's the sole focus of the game. The combat systems (superficially) are almost the same as well. Plus, it even has male and female animals before Pokemon as well. Animals live in only certain eco systems as well and some are rarer than others.
That's absolutely enough of a similarity to be suspect, as that's the entire gameplay premise of Pokemon.
https://youtu.be/ONGr1_FxnVA
Meanwhile Palworld is fucking Valheim almost 1:1, with zero gameplay similarities to Pokemon beyond throwing a ball to capture creatures. The Valheim team has more of a reason to sue lmao. It's a completely different genre from pokemon.
>>713517663Who's stopping Nintendo from profiting off throwing balls? I doubt Palworld even cuts into Pokemon's market share
>>713555691>cuts intoGame wise, no. The real threat is merchandise. The amount of money made from merchandise makes the game look tiny in comparison. Just look at the chillet plushie.
because westerners despise corporations and their patent trolling. do you know no game can do anything similar to the Nemesis System from the Shadow of War just because WB "patented that" yet has made no games at all using it ever again? WB is a patent-trolling scum publisher. this is how most publishers consolidated control over the industry--EA was notorious for their lawfare against competitors and independent devs to cost them legal fees to fight off frivolous lawsuits. Timmy from Epic Games does the same shit, although his frivolous lawsuits are also about using the courts to forcibly steal data from his victims. Absolute scum. Imagine simping for corpo scum.
>>713515610itt
posts for twitter farm views
literal raid from discord
the rest are genuine disdains
YOU WILL PAY THE RISING SUN PIG DOG
seethe is kind of a currency here
so expect this thread to be posted ad infinitum
>>713554905>There were barely any similar types of games with a monster capture mechanicNTA but what that was dq5 and Linda 3 in 92 and 95 respectively right?
So at that point you already had the megaten series which had like 6 different sub series by the time of Linda 3.
FF legend had minor monster taming in 89.
Wizardy.
Technically Mail Order Monsters in 85
Robotrek
Lufia 2
So yeah I wouldn't say there were "barely" any
>Pokemon bares more similarities to Palworld, than Pokemon does to Palworld.Then mention how. With Linda there's just about... Nothing close when you think about it.
With Palworld you have mechanics lifted directly from PLA and the monsters are clearly done in pokemon's style
>>713514806Based Japan for honesty and loyalty, virtues that are increasingly lacking in the West.
>>713514782 (OP)Did they ever fix the base building in this game? Base building felt so limited and buggy in this game compared to something like valheim. I want to actually build something with creative expression, not a just craft a soulless cube. Thats why I dropped it.
>>713555616>The entire game is about travelling the world collecting animals retard.Almost every monster tamer is about that anon. That's the central focus of the genre and the bare essentials.
It's like saying Sonic is a clone of Mario because the game is about going through levels and fighting bosses.
>That's absolutely enough of a similarity to be suspect, as that's the entire gameplay premise of Pokemon.No, no it isn't. Name a design, a full on mechanic, type match ups, anything that isn't on the same tier as
>that crab monster is red>the fox monster is red too>they're the exact same
>>713522515Kino, like palworld.
>>713556256loyalty is letting people cuck your girlfriend from a machine lol
>>713556171What a disingenuous little nigger you are. Linda 3 is just one of the many examples I could have brought up. I specifically focused on it because, compared to those other titles - it is entirely focused on the capture, and collection of monsters/animals as you explore the continent. All those companies should have patented these mechanics and then Pokemon would have been left with nothing. As of its release, it was a completely unoriginal game that just happened to have good soul and artstyle (and relied on the fact those other games weren't globally released).
It is utter madness that you'd dismiss Pokemon's rehashing of those mechanics as being unrelated, while pretending Palworld is some sort of work of plagiarism when the entire focus of the gameplay is entirely different. Nigger, those PLA mechanics were patented after Palworld came out lmao - and they're generic as fuck as well.
>>713556542So why is Pokemon pretending it has any say or ownership to the concepts and mechanics, when it's completely unoriginal as well?
>>713556683>why is Pokemon pretending it has any say or ownership to the concepts and mechanicsBecause they made those specific versions of that concept and patented them.
That's how patents work.
>>713514806What do they think of Pokemon aping Dragon Quest monster designs?
>>713556783Except those concepts are generic, and the gameplay is completely different.
>>713556335Still cubic last I tried but I'm not a creative fag so who knows
>>713514782 (OP)Nobody cares about you.
>>713556848>>713556848Shhh, the retards above are going to pretend that they're nothing similar - but the fact you can throw a ball to capture on Palworld, or ride on a Pal, is somehow thievery of a concept.
>>713556595What exactly is disingenuous about correcting you?
>It is utter madness that you'd dismiss Pokemon's rehashing of those mechanics as being unrelated, while pretending Palworld is some sort of work of plagiarism when the entire focus of the gameplay is entirely different. The theme of the game doesn't really matter. I mean, you're not going to try and argue that SMT isn't a monster tamer because it's about whether you're saving or dooming humanity are you?
No, no you wouldn't. But unfortunately that exactly the logic you're going on.
I'm any case the fact that you can't name a single mechanic or anything that's even remotely similar to pokemon only shows how little you know about any of this.
>>713556783That's called patent trolling, and it should be illegal. Nothing Pokemon has ever done, outside of the format of collecting badges, is original.
>>713556851Well no, patents can't be generic.
Patents are different from copyright, they are of the first person who registers them, and Nintendo/GF played in a bit of a gray area, because they patented what is effectively game design (so an idea, which falls under copyright) in a way that made it sound like a patent.
>>713556851>Except those concepts are genericThey don't own the concept.
Stop thinking that they do.
>>713557032Patent trolling is defined by not having a product realised and taking out multiple lawsuits. Clearly this is not patent trolling.
>>713557019The capturing and focus of an entire game world of monsters in first person dragon quest style battles is what's similar retard. Yet somehow riding on a Pal is the straw the broke the camels back, and is so unoriginal - right?
You just keep saying "nuh-uh it's not the same!" Despite it being right in your face. Yes, you are a disingenuous faggot.
ONCE AGAIN DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THESE THREADS IN ANY SERIOUS CAPACITY, THESE ARE CONTENT FARMING THREADS RAGE BAIT IS BEING PURPOSELY TOSSED OUT TO MAKE YOU ENGAGE, DO NOT.
>>713514782 (OP)Because foreigners are not taught to worship everything a company says and does, they will criticize them openly unlike in Japan where you have defamation laws that will fuck you over because they don't believe in talking back to companies.
>>713557184>The capturing and focus of an entire game world of monsters in first person dragon quest style battles is what's similar retard.Anon, you're comparing pokemon to Linda. Pay attention.
>You just keep saying "nuh-uh it's not the same!" Yeah because there's no visual or mechanical similarities, did you expect me to lie to save your ego?
>>713557173Yes they are absolutely generic. The idea of holding monsters in small forms has been in tons of products before. Throwing said thing to release the creature is a generic extension.
Cope pokefag.
>>713557282Let me just fix this for you
>Because foreigners are taught to worship everything a company says and does, they will only criticize them if they oppose their chosen company unlike in Japan where people have moral integrity.
>>713557379What?
I didn't say anything about how generic it is or isn't.
>>713557332Capturing all the world's creatures as the focus is absolutely similar, given how Pokemon's entire gimmick at launch was "gotta catch em all", like .. uh Linda Cube. The battles are Dragon Quest ripoffs, which does make them similar. You even have the same issue of being unable to capture if you're too strong in either game.
Saying "n-no!" doesn't change reality pokefag.
>>713514806i really hope these people are not the same japanese people who play mind numbingly dull gacha games.
but the fact that they're commenting on youtube videos about this makes me think they are
>>713557563>Pokemon's entire gimmick at launch was "gotta catch em all",Anon, that's the western tag line.
You really are grasping for any straws you can aren't you. Then again it's not like you played Linda.
Jews look at the meek, subservient Jap and wish all western customers were just a fraction as pathetic as them.
>>713545347>HE'S GOING TO POST THESE REPILES ONTO JAP BOARDS TOO.I'm actually interested to see how this slapfight would turn out. I'd kill to have a desuarchive-like for 2chan so I can read whatever they think of us. Sadly I don't think one exists
>>713557563Talk about disingenuous. You're intentionally being vague because you know that once you go into detail the similarity ends.
I mean, you catch them to be fucking noah to save them, you literally have to capture two of each, one male and one female because the world is ending.
Also the combat system is completely fucking different with five squares in the bottom right indicating where the enemy is. When did pokemon have that? Never you dumb nigger. This game also has overworld encounters which pokemon also doesn't have. So where the fuck are these similarities you're talking about?
>>713558418Why would you care about the opinions of a lesser form of human than you?
>>713556783>That's how patents work.>patents rejected in every country other then japanYup, that's how they work alright.
>>713558418Let's be honest they'd probably go
>what's wrong with gaijin? Do they not create?>wwwww gaijin are so stupid they still fell for journalists saying they were patented after>why are gaijin so weird? It's like they just live and die by what corporations say
>>713558624>>patents rejected in every country other then japanAnon, they were only filed in America and only a handful were rejected for wording, it was unironically too complex for Americans. As they change them they're slowly being accepted.
>>713557676Not gonna work, retard.
>>713558450Pokemon didn't have the direction based combat because it was shittier. Still took the premise which you argue is vague, but isn't even remotely vague -its the entire focus of both games.
Again, if you're gonna argue they're so dissimilar - then the plagiarism claims against Palworld are even more bogus.
>>713515841Passive aggressive pussy faggot can't even ask the dude to move his seat up, just takes a picture of him to post on Twitter like a bitch. No wonder 75% of these fags die a virgin after trooning out.
>>713558808>too complexOr too vague, broad, whatever
>>713558680why is it so accurate and why do they type in such a retarded manner it just feels off i never had this problem when translating other languages i only have this problem with translating Japanese people i just can't take whatever they type seriously
Pocketpair is likely going to win the lawsuit. Japan doesn't have summary judgment so they have to fight or settle. The fact that they're fighting it and still developing the game indicates they do have very strong case.
There's also MS, Sony and Re-Logic continuing to work with them. The law teams would have advised to steer clear if there was a chance of Pocketpair losing.
>>713558839>Still took the premiseYeah anon sure.
Catching a mysterious form of monster that can shrink and studying them is totally the same as capturing breeding pairs of every monster because the world is ending.
>which you argue is vagueNo, you illiterate dipshit I'm saying that YOU are being vague.
YOU the person I'm talking to who hasn't said anything about this game beyond
>hurr durr dry simiirar....>Again, if you're gonna argue they're so dissimilar - then the plagiarism claims against Palworld are even more bogus.That's not how it works, Linda and Pokemon don't share themes or anything beyond capturing monsters.
Palworld you can actually make connections on a mechanical level with several mechanics working in the exact same way as they did in pokemon.
How do you even breath? I mean, this is like saying every math problem has the same answer because they're math problems. Screw the numbers and if it's multiplication, division whatever according to you 10x10 and 10+1 are both fucking 9
>>713558478because it's fun clicking that google translate and seeing what other people from across the globe think. You never know what you're gonna read
>>713559401Complex. The alterations made them slighty more broad which were the ones they accepted.
That's how inept America is.
>>713559604And how is it complex?
>>713559508>Pokemon and Linda Cube don't share any premise beyond capturing monstersUh, as in - the sole premise of the game? The mechanics are similar. Dragon Quest style battles, wherein if you are too strong you'll kill the monster without capturing it. The focus for both games is capturing all the creatures as well.
No. Trying to handwave the entire focus of both games as just a vague similarity is peak disingenuity.
>>713559507>The fact that they're fighting it and still developing the game indicates they do have very strong case.No? In fact I would say the general panic they're going through by trying to save face on the Internet is very telling that they have no idea what they're doing.
>>713559908>the sole premise of the game?Why do I even bother I said what the premise is and you still don't know what it is. Clearly you haven't played either game.
>>713559507And here I thought nintendo was just going to keep at it until pocketpair gets swamped by legal fees
>>713560237Nigger, bringing up story shit doesn't change that the emphasis is still the collection of all the animals. You can see my save files above you dumb fuck.
>>713514782 (OP)Japanese sided with Tojo, doesn't make them right.
>>713560330>bringing up story shit doesn't change that the emphasis is still the collection of all the animalsOf course it does because it's the fucking premise of the game, you can be as reductionist as possible and boil it down to both are about catching mon but that's not going to change the fact that they're both completely different in that regard.
>>713560242That's not how that works, you don't just accrue legal fees over time, you'd have to do lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit like Sony did with bleem which is also a double edged sword because you're spending money doing so to which is why Nintendo never does that because it's a colossal waste.
Also, it's unlikely pocketpair will win this, in addition to their hasty removal of features acting as basically an admission they've done nothing but panic online.
The originality argument doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It's one mechanic out of a whole game. Palworld is mechanically very unique from Pokemon and having one thing in common doesn't harm the Pokemon brand in any way.
I'm sure you're all tired of analogies but imagine if someone patented the specific implementation of steering a car in a racing game. Literally no racing games could exist since they all do it exactly the same
>>713560784>It's one mechanic out of a whole game.It's like 4 by the way.
4 mechanics is a solid chunk of a game.
>>713560784>but imagine if someone patented the specific implementation of steering a car in a racing game.Then someone could make another.
A lot of racing games function differently simulating gear shifts or having go kart mechanics and steering.
>>713558808>he doesn't knowThey also tried to backdoor the European patent system by filing them in some small third world and got told to fuck off at registration. Not even review, but registration, that is how little power Nintendo has outside of Japan.
>>713561052>Then someone could make anotherthen why don't you do it since it's so easy to make mechanics
>>713560784>but imagine if someone patented the specific implementation of steering a car in a racing game. Literally no racing games could exist since they all do it exactly the sameHey anon, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>713561180>They also tried to backdoor the European patent system by filing them in some small third world and got told to fuck off at registration.Which clearly never happened.
>>713515841japs will seethe like this on twatter but wont say shit to the BWC tourists in person KWAB
>>713561180>They also tried to backdoor the European patent system by filing them in some small third worldWhat the fuck are you even talking about? There's no backdooring any patent system.
And that would be grounds to have the European Patent Office restructured since they have to do that two year prior art check.
>>713514806Nintendo cultists are unhinged regardless of region
>>713561052>A lot of racing games function differently simulating gear shifts or having go kart mechanics and steering.also why even say this if they're "ALL THE SAME" there's no difference in mechanics if its just a gear shift, they all work the same since it's so basic so no it wouldn't be possible to make a unique gear shift mechanic hell even arcades are the same that have gear shifts this argument would've work if (example: gun that has unique shape and shoots way different than irl guns with its own way of reloading)
>>713514782 (OP)>>713514806dont care, i will play the update. i never touch nintenbro again
>>713517184Modern day Disney deserves to burn to the ground.
I wish someone had patented menu based battle systems
>>713514782 (OP)>>713514806japanese people are always so subservient and broken to shit like this, it makes sense why their courts are so dogshit
>>713560730>hasty removal of features acting as basically an admissionWrong. It's a legal tactic to prevent nintendo from getting a TRO to stop the sale of the game. It's basically saying "We think you're wrong and shouldn't have these patients but we'll remove what you say is infringing so we can keep selling the game"
>>713561746Anon, you are aware that the more "basic" a patent is the more you can fuck around with it, right?
>>713562243>It's a legal tacticIt's not, it doesn't do anything because a version exists with those mechanics that players can roll back to. It's just an admission
>>713562025>menus are now a wheel
>>713562348Nobody is arguing that they aren't infringing the patent. The whole debate is over the validity of the patent being infringed
>>713562025I mean square could just do that retroactively then sue nintendie
>>713562348Anon, you're fucking stupid. No one is arguing the patients aren't being violated, the argument is they shouldn't be valid.
|This happens any time patent suits like this happen. The party claiming infringement will often times petition to courts to restrict the distribution of the offending product and they can't do that if the infringing elements are removed. So you remove the elements in question and keeps selling your game while it works through the courts.
>>713562635>This happens any time patent suits like this happenYes because they erroneously believe that removing mechanics will help, it doesn't. It does absolutely nothing other than incriminating yourself.
>>713514806If valve copyrighted half lifes gameplay then a whole genre wouldn't exist
>>713562635>So you remove the elements in question and keeps selling your game while it works through the courtsThat's not how it works, judgement comes at the end and that's where they decide on whether or not you can still sell your product with alterations. It's not decided at the start. That's never been the case.
>>713562676It allows them to sell the game during the lawsuit. How is that not helpful to them?
>>713562010Based. You're one of the few persons itt that isn't a retarded nigger.
>>713562785Because they could still sell it without the changes you fucking dumbass.
It's a complete myth that you have to in order to continue selling before a verdict is made, if that were the case then patent trolling would be way more harmful than it is since it would result in halting the production of anything and everything that's ever been targeted.
>>713562676Ah, so you are stupid.
They are admitting they are violating the patients, dumbass. They are also arguing Nintendo shouldn't have the patients in the firstfucking place, retard.
>>713514806We should try to get wild card involved and have them sue nintendo just start a patent war. The amount of shit Nintendo copied from atk is way more then pal world took from PLA. Pokeballs function exactly like cryospheres!
>>713562248no because why would anyone want to reinvent wheel or gearshift in this situation if said thing already works. plus i think it wouldn't help make new racing game it would shorten the amount of racing games being made because they would be stuck in development hell trying to spend their times trying to reinvent a damn gearshift just for them to end up back at square one to a point that it's enjoyable which would probably be never because they would've given up by then
People can't seem to recognize that the Palworld shitflinging is a pokefag civil war.
All the legal and moral arguments are just pretense. It boils down to pokefags that are fed up with the current state of the franchise fighting to have some degree of competition, and shiteaters against them fighting to stifle any and all criticism of Lame Freak.
>>713563041How are you not getting this? Removing the mechanics does not help with that at all.
>>713563123It's more, pokefags who have only ever played pokemon defending palworld because it's their first non pokemon game vs people who never liked pocketpair to begin with.
Actual pokefags don't have any interest.
>>713563126Yes it does. Its why nintendo doesn't have a TRO blocking the fucking sale.
>>713563109>why would anyone want to reinvent wheel or gearshift in this situation if said thing already worksTo make it better?
If everyone had your mentality we would still be going around with wheels made of rocks and mud huts because they work. But normal people aren't looking for something that works, they're constantly looking for something better.
>>713563224Anon, if Nintendo wanted a TRO then changing the mechanics wouldnt stop that. That's the point.
It does nothing other than fucking over consumers.
>>713563314If everyone had your mentality we'd only have one car manufacturer since you can't improve on an air filled rubber donut with current technology
>>713563123can it also be that palworld is also improving than just waiting till the game dies then updating it also didn't it take 4 years and a new console for the newest pokemon game just to get a performance boost update??? and not on launch
>>713563224Do you even know what TRO means?
>>713563418>with current technologyAnon, how do you think technology got to where it is? In fact, how do you think technology improves?
>>713563418This nigga thinks that technology is magic.
>>713563418FUCKING TRVKE this guy is so retarded he would probably think that fire has to have a new mechanic added to it just for it to be unique when it works just a fine as fire
>>713563385>>713563459Temporary restraining order. Typically granted to prevent irreversible harm while litigation plays out. if there is no more infringement no more harm can be done so patching the god damned game to remove the things Nintendo could claim are harming them wouldn't "stem the bleeding" so to speak
>>713518336>forcing yourself to write proper nouns in lowercaseIt's like the inverse of how journos capitalise "black".
>>713563528Anon we've been on the same tires for decades. That and there's no room in the industry for newcomers since innovation in the sector costs an absolute fortune
>>713563418>If everyone had your mentality we'd only have one car manufacturer since you can't improve on an air filled rubber donut with current technologyExcuse me?
What are you even trying to say? Everyone with an improvemt mentality wouldn't just stop at the car they would improve it.
As for not being able to improve "on an air filled rubber donut with current technology" that's currently happening with those shape metal alloy wheels.
You didn't really think this post through, did you.
>>713563528Anon do you think Ford invented rubber? The auto manufacturers aren't creating technology
>>713563679>so patching the god damned game to remove the things Nintendo could claim are harming them wouldn't "stem the bleeding" so to speakExactly, it wouldn't do anything making it a completely pointless act that only harms the consumers.
>>713563917I genuinely think that these people defending pocketpair just don't have the capacity for creative thought so they just spurn those who do.
>>713564083You're so close.
So what would they gain from opting to fight it instead of paying 65,000 USD and mov9ing on since they removed the items Nintendo is claiming infringement on?
>>713564221How are you not getting this? If they told them to completely halt production and distribution of the game no amount of patching would allow them to sell it again.
>>713563917And when those fancy alloy tires hit the market you'll have the choice of the manufacturer who sold it first or a bunch of inferior products. Hope you don't mind a defacto monopoly
>>71352149020+ years too late for that. Any bad news for pokemon is good news. Japanese should demand better or this sentiment wouldn't be so widespread everywhere else. Only blind nationalism nostalgia or feudalism could make somebody think Pokemon is good.
>>713514806Bugmen buzzing in their bug language. I hope chinks will exterminate these corposucking scums.
>>713564417>or a bunch of inferior productsNot every country it's China anon.
>>713564412How are you not getting this. Patching the game takes away Nintendo's ability to halt production with a TRO to begin with
>>713521490>palworld dies>GF doesn't change?
>Right wing weebs fellate Japan endlessly because muh anime and vidya
>Japan has outcry over the new Assasin's Creed Shadows and blackwashing of characters, right wing weebs are all abuzz with 'based' and 'honorary aryans'
>those controversies die down and Japanese xenophobes return to their usual 'whiteu piggu go home' and 'westerners are so annoying' stuff
>'WAIT WHAT THE FUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!'
>right wing weebs start doubling down on Asian racism again
lole
>>713564539Do other manufacturers have something to replace their old radials with?
>>713522515None of the monsters look fuckable, hard pass
>>713564570Except it doesn't. A TRO would be a full halt on distributing the game the lawsuit is about.
Changing the mechanics doesn't change the fact that it's the subject of the lawsuit. In fact, if they did put a TRO they would have to cease development too so they couldn't patch it in the first place.
Do you see how pointless it would be now?