Can they let Three Houses team make another Fire Emblem? Everyone hated Engage

>>713535150 (OP)
They should let Kaga / the tellius writers back instead
3H was good but I don't see a rehash of the same thing will be as successful

I hope both games get Switch 2 patches.

they should end the franchise.

I want more Dimitri god damn it.

>>713535263
>3H was good
lmao

>>713535150 (OP)
3H was shit too. They should get Monolith to make FE.

>>713535664
Monolith has never made a good game.

>>713535590
You're right, 3H wasn't good

3H was excellent

>>713535150 (OP)
>Dynasty Warriors people are granted the FE IP
>Both IS and Koei work on games independtly
I would like this outcome.

>>713535150 (OP)
They need to remake three houses and remove the annoying strategy sections, we all know the only part that matters is the monastery =.

Cutesythea!

>>713535150 (OP)
Engage was based for filtering the normies.

>>713536159
Hahahahahaha

>>713535150 (OP)
Engage gameplay was fun tho? Just get the three houses writers.

>>713535150 (OP)
I loved engage. Couldn't get into three houses. I hope the next one is more like engage.

>>713536392
>filters the "normies" when you're nearly done
Dumb retard. Also, it's normalfags. Go back to plebbit

>>713536585
Get the 3H writers, but only stick to one route instead of four. 3H has so many contradictions and nonsense that it kills all of the cool backstory they had. Blue Lions ends up being the strongest story because it doesn't focus on Those Who Are Retarded In The Dark.

Got 3x the amount of time in Engage than 3H. I can't understand how you people stomach the general game design and pacing just because of a handful of characters, but whatever floats your boat.

>>713535150 (OP)
if you want your pseudo medievil soap opera crap just buy the FFT remake. IS is busy making an actual tactics game.

>>713536392
>I-it filtered people
Yeah, just like Trannius and the DS games, right?

>>713537069
I got 9x the amount of time in 3H than in Engage
>J-just play a Visual novel, personafag!!!
I play with mods to cut the monastery. I just like the characters and aesthetics and music of 3H so much more.
Engage is visual diarrhea.

>>713535150 (OP)
Just don't let a Vtuber designer design the characters

>>713535150 (OP)
>three houses
Real estate prices there must be insane.

>>713537227
>it's good when you mod out one of the shitty main features of the game
Not making 3H look any better

>>713537227
>gameplay not mentioned
still a personafag, 3H has the worst gameplay and maps behind the fucking Valentia gaes

>>713535150 (OP)
I would have bought engage if the MC didn't look like a schizophrenic clown.

>>713535150 (OP)
Get whoever did the gameplay for Engage and pair them with whoever did the writing and worldbuilding of 3H and you'd have a masterpiece.
>>713537069
FE as a series is ultimately character-driven by design, if you don't give a shit about the characters then the stakes are too low for permadeath to matter as a concept. The moment to moment gameplay should be way better than 3H's was, but if you're properly invested in the characters and world you'd be amazed what kinds of dogshit gameplay you'd be willing to put up with. The characters are what people stick around for, and they're what people talk about and remember long after the game itself is irrelevant.

>>713537227
>implying the monastery is the only issue >not the shitty rehashed maps in a game that was advertised to have 3 different campagnes
>the shitty difficulty as well as the horrendous class balance
>half of the game is exactly the same for the 3
>graphically ugly with literal jpgs and runs like shit
>bland copy pasted characters designed by an otome artist
Again, whatever floats your boat. You could've saved money by watching and listening to that on YouTube, but 3Hfags aren't the brightness as seen through theirs discussions.

>>713537593
You can get invested in characters through gameplay too. It was the main way people got invested in characters in some of the older games where characters have a total of like 3 lines when they join and then never talk again.

>>713537418
Engage is made better by doing the same thing. The Somniel is terrible, and it's there just because these time-wasting hubs became a feature of this series.

>>713537593
I would highly disagree with that sentiment. Most characters beyond the main lords aren't even remembered. And if they are, it's much less about personality or the contribution to the story, if they even do contribute, but rather how they perform during some people's playthroughs.

>>713537829
>You can get invested in characters through gameplay too.
In theory, yeah. However, I do not remember a single one of my units from my Xcom and Xcom 2 runs, and Xcom is a game characterized by this sort of emergent narrative.
> It was the main way people got invested in characters in some of the older games where characters have a total of like 3 lines when they join and then never talk again.
I don't remember a single one of the Thracia shitters who are like that, and I played Thracia after I've played 3H (yet I remember the names and houses of every single character in the latter).
Memorable characters are made by dialogue, by actions in the story, by cool design, by gameplay, all in combination.

>>713538274
You're bringing your personal experience into it. You might need extra character depth to get invested in a character but there are plenty of FE fans who got invested in a character because they suddenly got godly growths in their run or challenging themselves by using a shitty character like Wendy in their run or maybe that character contributed a lot and died in the lategame and even though they had 3 lines, you still feel the weight of their death because of your experience with them in gameplay.

>>713537829
Sure, but that was more of a necessity back in the day. You didn't really have a choice, so having Bord come in clutch in a fight ends up being way more of a character-defining moment than anything he actually says or does in the context of the story. Now that the characters are properly written and generally get comparable screentime and dialogue, how they're written matters more. Now you don't need a character like Lysithea or Zelkov to be clutch because you just like the characters themselves.
>>713538150
>Most characters beyond the main lords aren't even remembered.
That doesn't seem like the consensus, at least to me. It might be the Harry Potter setting the game went with, but people were pretty attached to a lot of 3H's characters. If anything the gameplay being so mid just ended up putting even more emphasis on them.

>>713537119
Who was Trannius? Sounds Roman.

>>713538810
Buzzword used by the resident Jughead, ignore.

>>713535590
>>713535263

Is not about a academy or different storylines/factions.

Just give us some control over some long term normal mercenary squad you can customize and do some good side stuff with.
Give us reason to CARE about the soldiers, engage fully missed this.

>>713537341
At least there’s a secret underground fourth house for all the homeless to live in

>>713538771
It's not an archaic system, even today, the ideal Fire Emblem would have complete gameplay-story synergy and both of them would combine to make you super invested in the character. Both is ideal but my point is that it's still possible to get invested in characters with just one, including just gameplay. I don't care for Framme as a character at all but I still remember her death in my first Maddening run because she was there since the start and was an integral part of my team.

I thought 3H was alright but I can't be bothered playing the school shit again on replays. I wish they'd get rid of the main hub gimmick in every FE game it's always a slog I just want tactics combat and raising my cute girls into monsters.

>>713538559
>You're bringing your personal experience into it.
Yeah, obviously. I cannot experience FE through your lens. I can kinda get it, but it's just not how I feel about games in general, so I expect some writing to make me care about the characters. Balls of stats with portraits don't do it for me.
When a character I don't like (or worse, feel indifferent towards) dies I'm more likely to laugh than anything else. I somehow don't think that's quite the experience game devs have in mind when they design a game with perma death.

>>713538994
Ultimately people are gonna lean one way or the other. Hopefully they get the memo and the next main title is the best of both worlds. There's zero reason why 3H couldn't have had Engage's gameplay, or Engage couldn't have had 3H's characters and worldbuilding.

Three Houses has the superior fanbase

bruh

Boomer Emblem was never good.
Persona started at... i mean Fire emblem started at awakening

>FE community is too retarded to notice the obvious parallelism between Eirika and Ephraim
>FE community can't figure out the setting of Fates even with the game literally screaming BETRAYAL at them
>FE "fans" say they don't self insert into the avatars, but they get mad when the avatars have their own character
Never listen to the opinion of these fags, they are too retarded to discuss FE writing.

>>713540253
The character of the avatars are always very inocuous because they are avatars, even if they don't self insert. An avatar couldn't have been Edelgard or Dimitri, for example, because these do things the player may disagree with ir dislike.
Avatars are in this state of limbo where they are characters but not really.

>>713540846
These types of limitations are why avatars are fucking dumb in the first place. They have to abide by all these rules and it makes them boring characters. The only time it's excusable is when they literally have zero input on the plot like FE7.

>>713540846
>An avatar couldn't have been Edelgard or Dimitri, for example, because these do things the player may disagree with ir dislike.
People dislike Corrin's actions way more than they dislike these two, despite Corrin being fully justified to act the way he does due to his character.

>>713539690
What is it about the Black Eagles in particular?
Also I absolutely would that Dorothea

>>713541736
They had all the bisexuals and they were the anti-church route.

>>713541736
It's not just Black Eagles in particular

Which Fire Emblem was the first to have LGBT? I need to know so I know where to stop playing

>defending fates story unironically
the level of discourse in these threads could not get any lower

>>713542668
FE6 has the gay bandit duo

>>713542513
>fat Mercedes
Every time

>>713541736
In a word "false equivalency." Fodlan is, by and large, a theocracy which puts it uncomfortably to the Catholic Church. Now if you're a fedora tipping redditor from r/atheism or a pride flag waving tranny then of course you'd get wet at the idea of burning down the church so you can vicariously attack your religious trauma. Now this is where that false equivalency thing comes in because the catholic denounces homosexuality. But you know who doesn't? The Church of fucking Seiros. Catherine is gay for Shamir. Shamir is Dagdan and does not believe in the Fodlan Goddess but is still a knight. Mercedes is bi but is an adherent of Seiros.

Despite the religious imagery towards the Catholic Church, they aren't 1:1. But if the people who make those images or ride Edelgard's clit acknowledge that then they might have to be more critical or at least acknowledge the parallels towards Edelgard herself, which they're never going to do. I don't even think the Eagles are a bad house, they just have really shitty fans.

>>713541736
Like what>>713541995 said. It had most of the queers. I don't think I've met a single normal person who said the BE was their favorite

>>713542752
That's played for laughs though
I mean the woke kind of LGBT

>>713542513
What the actual fuck

>Racist
I swear to fucking God these people don't read. And why the hell is Ashe missing a tooth? Why is Dedue's hair curly? Did Annette get lost in Florida? Why is Mercedes's everything?

>>713542513
based ingrid

>>713542812
then get lost /pol/faggot

>>713542812
Path of Radiance has plausible deniability, but Radiant Dawn made it clear that it was woke as hell.

>>713542812
Tellius

>>713542907
Not a fan of the gays either.

>>713542916
/pol/ website faggot

>>713542916
No
/pol/ series

>>713542963
She doesn't mind Dorothea being gay. She minds the fact Dorothea keeps flirting with her when she keeps telling her to stop.

>>713542907
>>713542963
My queen

>>713542963
BASED

>>713542668
Blazing Blade

gaiden has the first trans character in Jesse

The only actual gay character in Path of Radiance

>>713535263
>Bring Kaga back
>Maps are just huge swaths of nothing and maybe 5 enemies in a corner again
Nah, fuck off Grandpa.

>>713543098
Peak male design

>>713543098
>Makes a joke about Lucius being as naggy as a woman
>Durr that means he's gay!
The nip ending specifically calls them friends, fag.

>>713543284
Ain't nothing gay about admiring beauty

>>713543301
Kek, based Priscilla

>>713542812
They were all ugly bastard rapists until Fates

>>713543284
Stephen Fry from Fire Emblem Path of Radiance

>>713535150 (OP)
>3H faggots hated engage
ftfy

>>713543420
Imagine making the ultimate holy woman a bombshell who's totally for (you). Rare Intelligent System W

>>713535150 (OP)
I'm so glad IS and Nintendo have ignored 3HRTs and their demands.

>>713543519
Tbf, I think Heather was supposed to be hot, but Tellius is ugly as shit so no one picked up on that.

Might as well post the third one

>>713536392
DELET THIS or I will have to replay it and marry Anna again.

>>713543710
You don't know that yet. The next game may very well be 3H2 in all by name, either by Koei or by IS trying to poorly make their own 3H.

>>713543420
Why is Ingrid such a whore?

Problem with Engage was the game being their "Anniversary Title"
Them making all those classic characters show up there just bloated up the cast way too much. There are tons of interactions with them and all of that could have easily been a way more focused story. Instead like 60% of the writing is reserved for fanwank.
Not much room left to tell an actual compelling story and so they didn't even try. The team behind Engage isn't really the problem tho. The writer here is the same as Awakening and Fates. Both games with their own issues but generally beloved by the majority of players.

>>713537227
>I play with mods to cut the monastery
you didn't played nor beat the game

>>713543789
>You don't know that yet.
I do actually. Keep coping for that Koei FE that will never exist. You have entertained me for 3 years now.

>>713535150 (OP)
I take it over Fateswakening. That was the worst artist the series has had.

>>713543734
This is really disgusting and making me think that it's some sort of troll art

>>713543287
>Kaga just means FE4
Maybe try playing his other games instead of being a retarded troon? He's still making them.

>>713543659
But I played and liked both

>>713537227
How do you even mod out the monastery and still have a playable game? Genuine question that shit takes up the majority of your playtime.

>>713544020
Kozaki could at least draw attractive females unlike the otomeshit art of 3H.

>>713539690
>>713542513
Absolutely fucking hideous. What is it with these "people" and having this particular grotesque artstyle and not thinking it's an abomination?

>>713544084
nah they were hideous and the camera angle of the portraits made them look chinese

>>713544034
It's a mentally ill tranny who makes everyone more brown.

>>713544069
https://gamebanana.com/mods/401129

>>713544065
No I don't care about Kaga's other slop. I want more FE4.

kino

Marriage with Marianne!

>>713536392
True

>>713544397
>Other slop
His maps are better than mainline FE maps.

>>713543831
Her land is barren so she needs to secure a marriage to secure funding so her family doesn't go poor or starve

>>713544065
Right he also made Gaiden the worst game in the series by far

>>713543831
She just has many suitors as the otome protag. She would never sleep around, though.

>>713544691
And Tear Ring, and Berwick, and Vestaria Saga 1 and 2

>>713544446
I would say the map would be better if it weren't for Matthis.

>>713544871
Just kill him, you weren't going to use hin either way. Either that or outmaneuver him if you really want him.

If Soren is gay then why is he my boyfriend (I'm female)

>>713544067
as it should be, I loved both too. Both are truly enjoyable games despite their flaws.
But since 3H fanbase is bigger and filled with normalfags, ironic weeabos and nu-animefags, so most of the most annoying people on this fanbase are the ones that idolize it.
Will never stop laughing how those ones cried after Celine was announced because "she looks like a loli" then they cried even more after Anna appeared, despite the series having playable lolis since literally the first game. someone like Himukai Yuji would never generate so much hatred without those faggots being there to ruin the rest of the fanbase and the upcoming games.

>>713544563
Don't care. I only want Fire Emblem

>>713544978
You are a MAN and you will always be a MAN and you will die a MAN

Preparation gives me decision paralysis

>>713544978
>I'm female
Same sis

>>713535150 (OP)
>Wanting another 4 route slog
No thank you.

>>713544978
Soren is still gay even if he pretends your stink hole is a woman's pussy, troon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDZQBqwN_Y

>>713542513
>>713539690
3H appealed hard to the Tumblr fanbase.

>>713545238
>1 minute into video
>ok so actually you can't, but I'm gonna continue the "challenge" anyway even though it's completely meaningless now

>>713545306
He actually beats it without cheating kek

what I actually wanted was a new TMS game.

>>713545527
Shut up Raul.

>>713544563
>I don't care about his other slop
>give me more slop instead
lol

Support convos between male Fire Emblem characters be like

>>713545628
wrong reply
>>713544397

>>713545112
Absolutely fucking BASED

Great FE4 fan here. Haven't actually played FE4 but I am looking forward to the remake because people told me it would be like Three Houses and I like Three Houses it's my only FE game.

>>713535150 (OP)
As a smash fan who likes the older characters as designs,
Why do the new characters look like trannies?

>>713545607
my name isn't Raul. I just enjoyed TMS and wanted a new game.

fe4 is garbage and IS trying to follow its footsteps is how we ended up with dumpster fires like RD and 3H

>>713545134
I hate these permanent stat increase items. I can never decide who to give it to, so I just give it to no one

>>713545902
But that's wrong? Byleth doesn't look like a tranny.
The rest of the Fire Emblem characters outside of TH do look like trannies though.

>>713535150 (OP)
No. Kill yourself

>>713545895
I can see 3H fans actually saying that lol

>>713545923
FE4 is bad, but that's only because playing it is a slog with multiple turns where literally nothing happens and you have to move an entire army over 50 spaces, and that's not even counting having everyone go through the arena. RD and 3H can be fun.

>>713535150 (OP)
Engage > 3HRT

Next FE better have another Camilla that practically foams at the mouth at the thought of raping 5 kids out of me

>>713545306
Why cant you? Fe7 is so easy any character can solo the game.

>>713546054
FE4 arena grinding is on the exact same level of per-chapter timesinking as the monastery

why would FE4 get a remake if its character cast is pure garbage?

Engage was horrible but I want to fuck the toothpaste hair lady

>>713546256
they want that voice acting when shitgurd gets cucked

>>713546252
Not really. Monastery is gunning for whatever the required objective is, doing the Arena if the reward is worth it, doing Gardening, then feeding everyone. Shouldn't ever take longer than 5 minutes max.
FE4 arena takes around 30 minutes if you're actually doing everyone.

>>713545527
I want a new TMS but with some asterisks:
>darker story - don't be afraid to call out darker side of entertainment industry, you can do so without going full Weinstein about it, plenty of bullying and bribery shit to work with
>don't be afraid to do character deaths - Tsubasa's sister should absolutely not be alive when the game confirmed all other disappearance victims of the opera house croaked
>more FE games as bases to work with
>more Persona-like system of story progression, calendar dates and events
>split MC choice, either start with guy or girl, opposite is childhood friend who ends up being controlled by the big bad and ends up as the evil rival/goes full Camus
>nerf the Session mechanic so the game doesn't just play itself
>better dungeon designs
>new weapon fusing right from the menu screen
>music-based minigames like RGG-style karaoke, dancing practice, etc.
>unlockable WarioWare and Jack Bros. ROMs to play as game in MC's room when bored of RPG stuff

>>713546363
Fe4 also only has 12 chapters. Why is the arena such a slog for people. Just dont do it.

Soleil anal

>>713546478
Why is the Monastery such a slog for people? Just don't do it. There's very little Monastery ever actually required, and it's entirely Part 1 shit that you can go through quickly.

>>713546443
Here is some neat advice kill yourself, TMS will rightfully get forgotten

>>713546478
the arena is the only way for any character not named sigurd or seliph to get money

>>713546443
>darker story - don't be afraid to call out darker side of entertainment industry
if I wanted some shit stuff like that I'd just read or watch Oshi no Ko.

Why is every retard's idea on how to improve FE stories is "make them darker"?

>>713546575
Yes. Just skip it. I don't care.

>>713539690
>>713542513
What gets me is that they can draw good looking characters but just choose to make half of them ugly as shit

>>713546629
Why woukd I want any character other than Sigurd or Celice?

>>713546838
The simple FE stories of old are seen as bad and archaic, doubly so now after Engage.

>>713546951
>just solo run the game if you don't want to waste 30 mins per chapter
you are correct, but that is not a point in FE4's favor

>>713545134
You must/would hate the Radiant Dawn teams.

>>713546838
american mentality that thinks that everything made for adults or that add lots of deaths and sex is better than something made for everyone.

>>713547016
Ah I see. Zoomers are dumb and can't appreciate fairy tale storylikes.
They grew up on safe edgy shit like digital circus and fnaf, and they think this is the standard now.

>>713546443
I agree with most of these but they should ditch the whole idol industry angle and just make it about regular high schoolers or young adults with FE personas.

>>713535335
I should fuck your mom!

>>713547148
To be fair, FE WOULD be improved by adding sex.

I hope your next game is woke like metaphor

>>713547408
and your shitty life would be improved if nintendo shoved their foot up to your own ass.

>>713544065
>play berwick saga
>it's coinflip.com simulator with drywall characters that never stop repeating themselves
kaganiggers are just contrarians

>>713547408
yes, specially baby making sex with Manaketes.

Post your favourite combat theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9esOQDzrec

Can I play New Theory of Thracia before vanilla?

>>713547663
nigga what the fuck is that

>>713537593
I have played Engage and enjoy it, but have never played 3H

Is the gameplay that much worse in 3H? How can it be that much worse? FE Gameplay as a formula is pretty easy to get right isnt it? Its just a bunch of niggas on a grid fighting each other

>>713547698
it's the romhack I made and I am shilling it on /v/ because I'm insecure as fuck.

Look at this dumb bitch

>>713547809
>Its just a bunch of niggas on a grid fighting each other
If it were that simple, most SRPGs would still be alive.

>>713547809
Three Houses is pretty barebones when it comes to gameplay.
You get 9 level 1 units at the start of the game and can make them whatever classes you want.
You can recruit other characters but it's pointless because they will be far behind the units you start with.
It's basically an FE game where all the units you require you get in chapter 1 and there is absolutely nothing exciting gameplay wise past that.

>>713547584
Engage one and all of it's variations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJHZMGX6K7o

>>713547809
>Its just a bunch of niggas on a grid fighting each other
that's Final Fantasy Tactics though.

>>713547992
>You can recruit other characters but it's pointless because they will be far behind the units you start with
What the fuck are you talking about? Most players immediately recruit to get the op characters such as Lysithea and Felix while immediately trying to bench the dead weight like Ashe, Caspar and Raphael

>>713545658
Sorry for what?

>>713547992
>You can recruit other characters but it's pointless because they will be far behind the units you start with.
They mostly are supposed to serve as replacement characters.

>>713547809
Here's an actual answer: 3H is roughly the same as Engage, except every character starts in one class and you get to choose how the progress in class setups, so it's a more customizable game. Except until the point you find out that half the fun classes are gender-locked and everyone's better as a flier anyways, so you just fliermax and steamroll the game. There's four stories you can do that all share the same first 13 chapters, the one story is a copy of another story except its final chapter and final boss are way worse, and you don't have a lord from the other houses, and you're locked out of recruiting any more characters if you didn't actively work towards said chars in the first 13 chapters.
It was alright as an experimental game, but I personally find the replays lose their luster real faster than any other FE, despite having arguably the most replay value.

>>713548237
Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our lances
especially since they're such good size and all

>>713548221
all the characters play the same and can be reclassed into whatever you want. The game is piss easy anyway so it doesn't matter who you use.

>>713547584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf8rMBoxoxM
Gigachad theme incoming

>>713535150 (OP)
>Shit art style
>Shit gameplay
Why the fuck would you NOT want the gameplay of Engage when it's a gigantic improvement over Three Houses.

>>713547889
Look at this evil bitch

>>713548294
Honestly, I think Three Houses might work better if you actually play it with ironman on.

>>713547889
The remake will turn her into Faye 2.0

>>713548423
Anon, 3H is one of if not the worst games in the series to do an ironman for.

>>713547992
you're probably that one poster that made Marianne and Lysithea melee fight for dozen of fights and then complained that they were bad units aren't you?

>>713547584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a8GhJfYZzU&list=PLh2F8pI2RMNZNmHmvrCJgTtauKRTwbXv2&index=4

I can't call them the best, but I also have a weird soft spot for both of the final boss themes in the NES games.

>>713535150 (OP)
It'll stay irrelevant in the west if they keep censoring it through troonslators

The story of 3H isn't even good. It's full of plotholes if you play more than 1 route.

>>713548545
Maybe? It seems like it would fix at least some of the problems (Like everybody always going for the same few units).

>>713548549
I like that Medeus and Duma both have almost Metroid-sounding themes in the NES versions. Makes them seem like almost otherworldly creatures that don't belong there.

>>713548621
>It's full of plotholes if you play more than 1 route
How? Only real one is Verdant Wind and Silver Snow having a different final boss.

>>713548671
Yeah. Both fights have surprisingly good atmosphere despite being very easy. Still have no clue what the hell Duma is even supposed to be.

>>713548852
>Still have no clue what the hell Duma is even supposed to be.
A decaying dragon

>>713548398
Mika Pikazo saying 2 years later that she still can't believe she got called to do the character design for the game is reason enough to support Engage. She's one of the nicest artists out there and truly wanted everyone to enjoy the series she also loves since she was a kid.

>>713547584
https://youtu.be/ljr0fOhBWGo?si=6hHWdD3iB0uhZh-7

>>713548973
Yeah, I can kind of see it now. Still, first time, I could barely make out what it is.

>>713548720
NTA, but the one that comes to mind is the dubstep mole people in particular.
>only ever truly explained to an extent on GD
>nuke Arianrohd in BE, still have nukes, never use them against Team Edelgard who has clearly betrayed them at this point, route ends before you fight them and is only ever bought up how you fought them if you marry Jeritza - which was done in a post-launch update a couple after release
>don't even deal with them in BL, Dimitri fucking steamrolls their wholly unprepared leader in an unrelated map while he was disguised, and the mole people all scatter after Thales bites it
They're supposed to be better-defined in the Musou, but even that game ended up a mess of plotholes and half-steps in its own right.

>>713549306
CF is obviously rushed. The war against them is actually mentioned in Bernadetta and Byleth's ending as well. BL example is sillier, but I wouldn't call it a plothole.

In general the issue with them is less a plothole and more that the story can't decide how powerful they actually are. CF and BL makes them seem like a complete nothingburger that only lasted as long as they did because Edelgard needed them around, while VW and SS largely seemed to view them as the true power behind Edelgard.

>Laus spends a good part of early FE7 causing shit for everyone, with its ruler trying to take over the world by allying with an evil cult and the son of the ruler attempting to betray Pherae and Ostia
>Eliwood decides to tell nothing of this to Roy, forcing him to deal with yet another betrayal from Laus completely off guard
Eliwood is an asshole

FE would be improved if you could make big happy families with non-humans, but properly this time
Awakening saved the series, and now too, it must save the series once more

>>713549961
I always did respect how in Fates, Soleil was the only kid unit who acknowledged she was part-dragon if Corrin was her mom. Almost makes her feel like she's canon.

>>713547584
Walmart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcdMEpIiyns

>>713549961
>if you
avatar characters where a mistake

>>713549961
Fates and Awakening lets you do that though.

>>713551654
>but properly this time

>>713549306
Isn't Solon the only mole person to successfully replace his skinwalker target without rousing suspicion then throw it away for literally no reason when he's in prime position to be an actual mole for his people compared to Kronya and the others?

timerrasway.gif

sound like OP you're a repressed faggot

>>713554254
Why would she do this?

>>713552946
Exactly, yes. Literally what the fuck was he thinking?

>>713535150 (OP)
Engage was much more fun to play than Three Houses. In an ideal world, IS does the gameplay and they get someone else to do the story and characters to make a game that's good in both areas instead of one.

Thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HFsECKTtQk

>>713555051
Reminder that they did get someone else to do the story for Fates and then scrapped 80% of his work and got Komuro to slop it up. Who's to say they wouldn't do that again?

>>713555760
you cannot inseminate troons, you retard

>>713555760
Completely wrong tierlist

>>713535150 (OP)
why are there nearly 5 anti engage threads every single day these days?

>implying engage has bad story

>>713535150 (OP)
Why is it so rare for Three Houses or Engage to go on sale?

>>713555760
>Marianne, Rhea
>perfect mother
>Dorthea
>perfect mother, wife
This has to be bait.

>>713555967
Why is Ivy such a dork?

>>713535150 (OP)
What's bad about this game? It's the first FE game I ever tried and I enjoyed it.

IS handled the writing for Three Houess while Koei Tecmo did most of the programming right?

And werent the retarded plots of Fates and Engage mostly due just to one writer? I don't know the specifics but they need to just hire better writers and it would go a long way. I don't know how much creative control Koei Tecmo actually got over the plot of three houses though. They've done a great job with games like Hyrule Warriors and Age of Calamity for the Zelda series and brought FE to new highs with Three Houses and some nice fan service with Three Hopes. I think they deserve another shot on a stronger system, but I really hope IS gets their shit together. Engage has some cool stuff going on but the shitty lazy + writing and just overall lack of attention towards the characters/world brings down the experience. Also no idea what they were thinking with Alear's design. I get it has an explanation in the story but it's so fucking stupid and unnecessary.

>>713556164
its just 3hrt seething. ignore them

>>713555909
Anti-Engage schizo is extremely obsessed with this game. Which is ironic because he said early after release that it would be quickly forgotten yet he's the one that thinks about it every single day for the past 2 and a half years.

>>713556223
Nobody bought Engage, it's one of the worst selling first party games on the Switch and that's saying a lot.

>>713549561
They are threatening in BL because of what they were able to pull off but they are dealt with while they are still undercover because their actions have earned their disguise powerful enemies.

>>713556196
IS only wrote the supports. Koei did the main plot and characters and most of the actual writing and worldbuilding.

>>713556251
>he said early after release that it would be quickly forgotten
I mean, he's not wrong. Most people have never even heard of Engage and didn't even know there was another FE game after Three Houses. It's been memoryholed bad. It doesn't make you a hater to point that out.
t. put hundreds of hours into the game

>>713556196
It was a mix of both. IS created the structure for the story, and wrote out SS and then KT filled in the blanks.

>>713556365
Lol then IS got completely mogged. That's actually really fucking sad they got outdone by another company like that. But with all the focus on Dynasty Warriors I guess Koei Tecmo has a lot of experience on what makes a fun historical type drama. Still, they had never made a game like FE before and they knocked it out of the park on their first attempt. I wonder if IS are salty about that, kinda like how Sega never gave Christian Whitehead a chance again after mogging the fuck out of Sonic Team with Sonic Mania.

>>713556141
how can 3hrt even compete from just ivy alone?
we still got alear, goldmary, chloe, tunaka etc.

>>713555414
I hate gay people

>>713547575
wtf is this a real image?

>"worldbuilding"
>lore
KEK

>>713556640
yeah nintendo wrote that themselves

i see the BL fags are sucking each others cocks again

>>713555909
Because otherwise the jannies don't like them

>>713556164
story was weak, that's about it
personally i think most of the designs were also pretty bad but whatever. gameplay was pretty good

>>713552946
Well if you put them on a tier list

>Cornelia
Is never found out in any route. Even in Azure Moon and Azure Gleam when she's outed as a co-conspirator, her motivations are seen as political. Not that she's a moleman sleeper agent. In Crimson Flower Edelgard kills her but that's a betrayal on Edelgard's part, since Cornelia believed they were allies until the Black Eagle Strike Force showed up at her door. No matter what, NONE OF IT will ever go back to Cleobulous. All the blame will be laid at the feet of a woman who's been dead for nearly a decade.

>Myson
Myson rarely gets his just deserts for his research on the Demonic Beasts. Most don't even know he fucking exists. He does his job, creates instability, and vanishes into the shadows before anyone knows what the fuck happened.

>Solon
Solon maintained his disguise for 40 fucking years before dropping it for no reason. Even if you say the students caught "Tomas" red handed at Remire Village, he could've just let the blame fall on him rather than reveal himself. You know.... like Cornelia did. Why would he do so well for so long just to fuck up at the end? Even still he nearly trapped the goddess in an alternate dimension never expected Byleth can just make their own wormholes.

>Thales
Thales is an idiot and he's hard carried by the rest of his team. The only reason I didn't put him at the bottom is because he at least was able to hide as Arundel for at least 4 years. Even though he fucked up by not maintaining his donations to the church, which was so out of character that the church noted it and it caused Dimitri to suspect him as a participant in the Tragedy of Duscur

>Kronya
Kronya is so stupid that she's a detriment to her team by existing. Everyone immediately knew Monica was out of character and Kronya didn't even try to hide it. She was so anxious to do things that she's speaking to Edelgard IN PUBLIC. And then she kills Jeralt for no fucking reason.

>>713543789
Koei won’t put out another FE for at least 3 years since they already have a Zelda in the works to fulfill their Nintendo quota

>engage big titty design bad
>3hrt homo erotic fantasy good
really 3hrt?

>>713556652
You don't need to remind us that Engaygie has none of those things, toothpaste-chan.

>>713556407
you say that like normalfags also didn't dump 3H for the next faglus slop as soon as it came out
even FE jewtubers moved on to actually covering engage properly because the anti-engage bucks dried up now that the troons moved on to the next FOTM

>>713556913
and its a good thing!

>>713556886
usually the step 3 is shilling the romhack of the balding groomer as a LE RETURN TO FORM, wonder why they stopped doing that

>Play AM
>Defeat Randolph
>Dimitri explicilty orders to capture him
>Dimitri merely threatens to have him bear witness to imperials dying, just so that he sees the consequences of war
>Byleth decides that this tame shit is too much and kills Rudolf
>Fleche acts as if Dimitri killed him, holding a grudge against him specifically
>Dimitri is somehow the one who has to learn a lesson from this whole ordeal
This entire plotline was extremely retarded

>this is what engaygie fags wants

>>713556652
Reminds me how many autistically read all the libraries just so they can come here and Edelpost.
I hope IS keeps alienating them.

>>713535150 (OP)
I wish they would make a game with voiced mc that also has personality (and not just a blank avatar)
Shipping my blank state mc with waifus is not fun when they don't have good chemistry together.
Plus they should either cut the monastery or make it fully accessible via menu options
Running around just to talk to people is super annoying

>>713557257
>autistically read all the libraries
More like watched a jewtube video about them, from someone that also speedread them no less.

oh no somebody stop them from making me liking hot engage girls

>>713555051
I was going to say this >>713555756. Intelligent Systems is just incompetent.

>>713556523
Or Bethesda and Fallout New Vegas. So much so they made a show just to take a giant dump on it.

>>713556652
>Posting the game, that put as much effort into it’s world as Six Flags’ does it’s ride theming.

yes im not a faggot, how could you tell?

>>713554812
I think the DLC route implies that he was doing research into demonic beasts, i haven't played 3H personally, but, in my opinion at least, his actions serve to expose the molemen in universe, which i'd argue Kronya serves much better. Let Byleth kill her to avenge Jeralt, leaving her as an unsolved conundrum while Solon and Edelgard muddy the investigation, then have him revealed after the timeskip, maybe even have him kill a major character once he's cornered.

>>713557195
>Dimitri explicilty orders to capture him
This is wrong. Dimitri was going to kill Randolph the same way Dimitri killed every other imperial general he encountered. But Dimitri wanted to torture Randolph by making him watch as he kills his men and his only act of mercy would've been to gouge his eyes out if it were too hard for Randolph to watch.

This is the type of dishonest shit that makes it so difficult to discuss these characters and I'M a fucking Lionfag. Why lie? Dimitri himself accepts culpability that his revenge quest went too far even if the foundation of it was justified

why are troons so obsessed with lore?

>>713556970
Why is a passable plot and well designed characters sudden a bad thing? Nobody is asking for shakespeare here. Just something that's not so embarrassingly bad it makes you want to look away from the screen. Engaygie tries the players patience with moments like this and a plot that does nothing to make you want to care about these retarded characters. It actively REPELS you away from the experience.

>>713556967
3H brought more normalfags into the series than ever before. Even around here, discussion around Three Houses remained strong for years after release. Engage threads on /v/ only exist because of whatever weird shit is going on with /vg/ and the threads themselves equate to one schizo trying to play damage control for a game hardly anyone thinks about anymore. There's no real discussion in these threads, just bickering.

3H stayed in the public eye far, far longer than any Fire Emblem game before it and that didn't even get a Smash Bros bonus until way after the hype had died down and Byleth was added, which caused more controversy among smashfags than anything because they seethe over any new FE character due to the over-representation.

Due to Three Houses splitting paths and a story that puts a ton of detail to all the small happenings of each house and area, dating back thousands of years with all sorts of little fun interactions between characters that actually seem like they are neighbors of one another gives the game a very natural feeling, which stands in contrast to Engage where none of it is believeable, none of the story is explained. Oops the evil robed villain dropped her time stone lol who gives a shit.

>>713556886
Actually it's
>engage big titty design good
>3h big titty design good

>>713557554
Not even joking, because that's how they got into vidya thanks to shit like undertale and FNAF.

>>713557326
Mangs did an entire stream reading them too.

having thread IDs like 8 moe would be so funny here, bet 99% of the anti-engage spam would be just one guy either with a single ID or a swarm of (1)s

>>713557493
The fuck it is? Dimitri straight up says "Capture him" as the chapter end quote, and insists on keeping Randolph alive because he wants to show him that he's as much of a monster as himself. Hell, the worst thing he says is that he'll gouge out Randolph's eyes if he's too much of a bitch to see the consequences of war, it's as tame as it gets when it comes to the treatment of an enemy general.

>>713547889
she wouldn't lose to her own substitute ,right?

>>713556886
both are good actually

>games so bad they dont have anything to talk about but lore

>>713557582
I love dragons

>>713557554
>Why does a RPG have a story?
I don’t know anon.

>>713549158
and you retarded mutts (the fanbase as whole) send her death threats and made tons of mockery on her so good job.

>>713557554
Unironically autism and low IQ. Autism being what entices them to loads of useless information and low IQ being what makes them gravitate towards a game over anything else.

>>713557724
she will for me, she's just a useless no move staffbot and her brother was painfully below average

why are troons so anti lore?

>>713557910
in my playthrough. their dad was jamke

>>713549158
>>713557835
i think mika should return and do engage2 with the engage mangaka to do another round!

>>713557835
Mika unironically made too high quality art for retarded westoids. She didn't realize that they'd be scared of colours and expressive designs.

>>713557474
No that's in the base game. In chapter 6, I believe, Flayn is kidnapped and her blood is stolen. You can actually see Flayn and "Monica" unconscious behind the Death Knight when you go to rescue them.

While the students are busy with the Battle of Eagle and Lion, the Slitherers are busy. Solon uses Flayn's blood in Remire Village to begin testing for the Demonic Beasts. That testing is further pushed by Myson in Enbarr where Duke Gerth is surrounded by people infected with cursed blood and they're made rabid until they become demonic beasts too. Duke Och is blackmailed into stealing the Vajra Mushi from Kupala in Leicester, because the Slitherers are working on their zombie Ten Elites army and the people of Kupala learned how to make fake Heroes Relics. Which explains why the Ten Elites have their own and how they made the Aymr for Edelgard.

So yeah the Slitherers were really fucking busy. But before anyone could do anything about it, Edelgard declared war

>>713557978
nice deflection xister

I like Engage AND Three Houses!

We, are the 4 Hounds. I’ve come to take your rings, and your life.

Engage bad

>>713557554
Not sure. You'd think they'd read a book or a VN or something, but no, they've dedicated their lives to story that'd be considered low-tier in literally any other medium. Bizarre.

>>713556164
it's not grimdark and there's not enough pointless busywork to break up fire emblem gameplay that tourists hate because they want to listen to a shitty american voice acted audio drama more than play a video game

>>713557717
Which is to say Dimitri was going to keep him alive? Randolph was not going to be sent back to Enbarr after Dimitri was done. Dimitri was going to turn Randolph into hamburger after it was over. There wasn't a point to it, Dimitri didn't want information and he didn't want to ransom him back to Edelgard. He just wanted to torture Randolph. So Byleth just killed him so it could be over with.

>>713558175
this is /v/. liking vidya is forbidden

Jesus Christ Almighty Engage looks like shit

post yfw your mother tells you this is your long lost sister and you're not allowed to fuck her

>>713558546
cousin yuri time

what unites all FEfags from every game fanbase is manakete feet

>>713542963
this is attempted rape

>>713558771
Eh sexual harassment at worst

>engage op
>thread is fucking dogshit garbage
tale as old as time

I deserve to be Cowmilla'd

>>713543420
10 boys. maybe more
How come she is even a bigger slut than Dorothea?

>>713558863
What happens when you get Cowmilla'd?

>>713558857
I know how to improve it

>>713558857
being this retarded

>>713542513
>>713539690
>>713543734

>game with the worse gameplay is beloved by the mentally ill

really tickles the head meat

>>713558936
You become a father

>>713559205
>this is your fe audience now
WHAT HAPPEN???

>>713558519
they massacred her worse than Dimitri did

NEW ENGAGE KINO

>>713558370
>torture
That's a strong word for what just amounts to having him bear witness to the war he's been waging for personal glory. He's nothing more than a war prisoner who is treated as such.

i think i prefer engage girls now...

>>713558519
Post her 3H model to compare

>>713535150 (OP)
we love the divine dwagon and her game here.

They should hire some porn mangaka to do the next FE character designs

>>713559590
jesus christ stop him!!!

>>713559301
Reminder those same people are shilling shit like picrel now.

>>713559592
Very true
In fact you should not be allowed to post here until you've played through her game

>>713535150 (OP)
>Grrr I hate Engage
>Let's make the game even more unfun by rehiring the people that made the most unreplayable FE game ever
Why?

>>713535150 (OP)
3houses was a joint effort between koei tecmo and IS

>>713559918
>rehiring the people that made the most unreplayable FE game ever
Huh?

I liked male alear

Who is the hairiest engage girl?

>>713559592
>>713560085
Ivy, don't you have snow to eat?

>>713560052
Once you beat one route, you've beaten them all. The maps are basically the same in each one with MAYBE one or two differences.

>>713559806
Kojima games made me convinced that westoid normalfags don't really have with the absurd nature of japanese games, because they gobble up anything he makes.
What their issue is is the anime artstyle. Suddenly if something is "too anime" looking they start having problems with the more absurd aspects of them.

>>713547584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0ligu-Q2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxHJ3ca4lps

>>713556793
>Shi Pei Pu (Chinese: 时佩璞; pinyin: Shí Pèipú; 21 December 1938 – 30 June 2009)[1] was a Chinese opera singer from Beijing. He became a spy and obtained secrets from Bernard Boursicot, an employee in the French embassy, during a 20-year-long sexual affair in which the performer convinced Boursicot that he was a woman. He claimed to have had a child that he insisted had been born through their relations. The story made headlines in France when the facts were revealed.

What the fuck?

>>713556886
Engage is the gayest Fire Emblem ever. Not one character is straight.

>>713559806
>Westoid "humour".

>>713556529
One the Golden Deer. Two most of Houses girls are straight.

>>713559456
He already bore witness to it when he lost the battle. Depending on how fast you are, he can watch his entire army burst into flames before being cut down by your troops. Just kill him and move on

>>713560052
3H has the most mid, boring gameplay of any in the series. considering 89% of FE's relevance is gameplay, being a 3H fan is a good self report for being a tourist

>>713560085
he cute

>>713542513
>>713539690
this artists hilda is pure sex btw

>>713560729
Oh hell no

>>713560729

>>713560673
3H’s gameplay is massively overhated. Conqueers hate it because it’s not like their overrated as fuck game. 3H’s gameplay is on par with most of the series and I can name many games that are worse than it.

>>713557472
bottom left, top left, and top right all have sex with bottom right btw

>>713560729
I don't get brownwashing or whitewashing for that matter

>>713560975
3H, at it's BEST, is when you're actively playing a main story chapter. At those moments, it's on par with much of the series, yes. Problem is that's not a large percentage of your playtime, meaning it's strictly worse than all of those other games on average.

>>713560591
He begs to be spared and acts like he has any moral righeousness when he's killing people for his personal glory, which Dimitri explicitly calls out. He is a war prisoner who is made to bear witness to the crimes he has himself committed as part of his punishment.

>>713561130
i think they should remake the old games but replace existing females with black women.

>>713559806
>>713560207
>>713560673
For whatever reason westoids keep being increasingly desperate over larping as LE MATURE adults.

>>713560975
>3H’s gameplay is on par with most of the series
Name one map that you remember for good reasons

>>713557716
I mean, that's exactly what happened.
Turned out the Alearfag is just an average autistic waifufag, the FEHfags raid from a discord and the anti-Engage schizo is real.
This has become a huge problem site wide. Some loser decides he doesn't like something and dedicates all of his free time to shitting up discussion of it by aggressively samefagging. And mods are unwilling to do anything about it.

>>713560207
>What their issue is is the anime artstyle
They have been trained to recoil at earnesty and beauty, whcih the anime artstyle happens to be full of. Pick out any westoid media and you'll immediately notice how it worships depravity, to compare.

>>713561214
Thanks for proving my point that people just hate 3H because “monastery le bad”.
I’d rather endure the monastery than FE walking simulator, RD Ch. 4, or Blazing Sword.

>>713561406
>Field of Eagle and Lion
>Remire Calamity
>To War
>Oath of the Dagger

>>713561608
>Thanks for proving my point that people just hate 3H because “monastery le bad”.

>>713561608
>I’d rather endure the monastery than FE walking simulator, RD Ch. 4, or Blazing Sword.

Which one is the first one? Echoes? Genealogy?

>>713557716
That is literally what happened there tho, multiple times.
The real question is how every single other "not-general" on 4/v/ moved over, even the falcomfags, but somehow this one didn't.

>>713561773
Genealogy

>>713561534
>And mods are unwilling to do anything about it.
The leaks during the downtime proved they actively support it to push their leftoid agendas.
And if you think /v/ is bad, /a/ is far worse with most of the janny team being literal crunchyroll employees shilling gookslop and attacking JP media.

what's with the incest pearl clutching in this fanbase? it's like people get so disgusted seeing it, to the point they want any instance of incest that's not arvis and deidre related removed from a potential geneanlogy remake. i remember seeing people deny any reomantic undertones with lachesis and eldigan until one of nanna and ares' conversations just says outright she was in love with him. also people acting like shannan is a bad person because he can marry larcei. these games take place in a medieval setting so i just take it as it is, i don't think too much whether they show it in a positive light(nanna and ares, shannan and larcei) or a negative light(arvis and deidre, raven and priscilla), but others just seem to want it gone period, like they can't stand the sight of it.

there are multiple alearfriends. she is loved by many!

>>713561952
>The real question is how every single other "not-general" on 4/v/ moved over, even the falcomfags, but somehow this one didn't.
FE /v/fags are avoiding /feg/ because it is dominated by insufferable discordfags

Jap FE fans hate Engage too

>>713562026
>what's with the incest pearl clutching with westoids?
the answer to that is always "projecting hiding the skeletons in their closet"

>>713560975
>3H’s gameplay is massively overhated.
If anything it isn't hated enough.

>>713562087
I am definitely an engage fag over 3H but alear is a shit protag with a shit design

>>713562149
I'm talking about 8/v/ and 8/vg/, not 4/vg/.

>>713535267
Same. Only if Shez is added to both. Emblem Shez is unironically the best fan mod ever.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/559134

>>713562260
Anon be real, that place died the second 4chan came back. It was always a temporary refuge.

>>713562190
not sure why you saw me talking about incest and took the opportunity to shove some jew pedophile shit in my face like it's at all relevant. try to stay on topic

>>713562149
>FE /v/fags
These threads are also made by /vg/ fags.
There used to be two separate FE generals, /feg/ and /feh/ (for the mobile game). Those got fused, and now they're having spilloff into /vg/. None of these thread makers are "from /v/", the existence of a pseudo general for a game like Engage is extremely artificial and driven by a handful of /vg/ fags. Nothing about this is natural or organic to /v/ lol, it all stems from general drama on /vg/.

>>713562357
only if you frequent exclusively FE threads
basically all gachaslop generals moved and stayed there due to the deranged rampant shitposting on this /vg/

>>713562620
You're acting like /vg/ posters are mutually exclusive from /v/ posters

Are we still pretending 3H writing wasn't hot garbage?

>>713562620
you're acting like every single poster on 4chan is in isolated bubbles and can't post on more than one board.
we had fire emblem threads here filled with /feg/ regulars all the time for a decade. we got kicked out of /feg/ by pic related and we've been posting here regularly since. it's not a secret or anything. sorry to break it to you, but engage threads are organic.

No amount of threads will bring your wretched game salvation. You will be chained, to the bottom of the polls, eternally, denied your Heroes until the skin rots from your bones. I will ensure, that you pay for your sins, Engagefag. In the name of IS, I swear it.

>>713545112
Absolutly cringe
If 3 new companies made games exactly like FE and better but named it Frost Shield I'd love them all the same and consider all part of the same thing

>>713560975
3H is better than every GBA emblem from a gameplay perspective, to start.

>>713535150 (OP)
they should do remakes for the new 1-3 more games. That way they wouldn't have to make a new story because they clearly cant, They wouldn't have to design new lords and characters because they already have good ones and also, they clearly can't. Many of them never came out in the west either. Seems like a easy way to release an actual good game and begin to root fans toward the more traditional fire emblem experience. vtrt4d

>>713561608
>Field of Eagle and Lion
DUDE OPEN FIELDS LMAO I LOVE AWAKENING AND GAIDEN

>>713564329
>Map with great atmosphere and mechanics that encourage you to be on the offensive.
>”I will instead judge it by its cover!”

>>713563841
I wouldn't because this just leads to a horde of cheap gooky chinky clones.
If a JP dev makes a FE clone I will care about it tho.

>>713563607
how do you get kicked out of an unmoderated general

>>713564495
I'm not judging it by its cover. I'm judging it from playing the fucking game and not finding it fun.

An artist on twitter is making me find Miriel cute.

>>713564630
>unmoderated
lol no, basically anyone calling out shitposters on /vg/ gets a 3 day
i have seen people getting vacations for merely reporting the shitposters

>>713542916
Kill yourself child molester.
>>713543354
Lying and grooming are the only way leftists and faggots reproduce.

Are there any FEtubers who aren't leftists?

>>713565372
Eggman.

>>713564630
>>713565174
The mods side with him too. And when it looked like he wasn’t going to get his way, he would sic his goons to create false flag threads to get the real thread deleted.

>>713565174
>>713566030
4chan mods really did deserve everything they got. And the worst part is they will still never change.

>>713556196
The same writers for Age of Calamity did Three Houses and Three Hopes, they're KT writers

>>713556793
It was funny how Three Hopes confirms some other Slithers think Thales is a moron who's useless on his own, and that he's been like that for a thousand years

>>713565372
Me

>>713566510
What's your channel? I won't tell anyone, promise.

>>713566334
no wonder the story is also the worst part of both AoC and 3copes, especially 3copes being so bad that shez is basically the only good part of it

I love my wife, Annette.

I also loved Engage

>>713566551
https://www.youtube.com/@Mangs1337

>>713535150 (OP)
Fire Emblem was fucking everywhere did one game really nuke it all?

>>713566662
Yeah I remember when the whole internet couldn't stop talking about Echoes.

>>713566662
it was just that bad.

>>713566030
what the fuck is wrong with these people? it's a tactical RPG it's not that serious

*pretends to come into the thread*
wow engage really bad amirite?

>>713566582
I also love both games. Although Hapi is my 3H waifu.

I'm not sure if Timerra is my Engage waifu but she is, bar none, my favorite infantry unit

>>713566976
Where's Unicorn Overlord?

>>713566976
>I also love both games.
Same

>>713556793
>Cornelia
It's not fair. Why couldn't we save her?

>>713543287
trust the plan, the more empty pointless space they have the closer they can be to labelling the game open world and then get 10 million sales from normalfag cattle

>>713567045
I promise I'm gonna play it. I recently got into the Xenoblade series but UO is right behind XC3

>>713567287
It's the the fact we can't save her that pisses me off. It's the fact we can't clear her name. Cornelia genuinely was a saint but her name will be dragged through the mud because of the fucking Slitherers

>>713566482
The Agarthans are more or less ran by Narcian. Makes me wonder if Thales had something to do with Arval disappearing.

Why this guy using a mop in Heroes lmao?

>>713415923
Here is the loli loli Tiki. I have now finished my debt of forgiveness to the dragon lolis....
Color https://files.catbox.moe/sjpvl5.png
Greyscale https://files.catbox.moe/qo9oyp.png

Engage is fun. Three Houses was a good novelty but as an actual game I hate replaying it

>>713569147
Seasonals can get goofy looking weapons, the latest Nino has a beach ball tome as a weapon, but it might also be a reference to his first support conversation with Kris where he's cleaning a location excessively.

>>713569212
Nice job, anon

Lissa

>>713569781
How would she respond to watching her daughter getting plowed by her reincarnation knowing her personality?

>>713556356
I know. It's just kind of funny for Thales to go down like a afterthought while disguised.

You think he would take after Hubert and fucking run.

>>713556523
>But with all the focus on Dynasty Warriors I guess Koei Tecmo has a lot of experience on what makes a fun historical type drama.
I mean... DW 9 was pretty awful and it's pretty obvious they took a lot of inspiration from Fire Emblem for DW Origins.

With that said, you can see a lot of inspiration. Especially in the conflict between Edelgard and Dmitiri.

>>713570152
Lots of teasing and faux-outrage. Enjoys egging Byleth on

>>713565564
What is Flayn plotting to do to her aunt?

>>713569930
I see.
Thought it was his base form.

KT only knows how to make Three Kingdoms-esque plotlines. If they made another FE, it'd be the same exact basis again.

They should get an ai to make the next fire emblem plot. It can't be worst than the writers they have now.

>>713570636
Good, 3K style plots are kino it's the best thing the chinks ever came up with.

Reminder about Rhea

>>713535150 (OP)
The only bad thing about Engage is the bad looking MC

>>713570741
Chinese history is boring and samey just like their people.
>>713570720
Baldman literally did this, got an AI to make an FE game.

>>713570812
And FE is so samey that a plot that didn't revolve around a dragon and a runaway prince is exactly the shot in the arm FE needed to become actually popular for once

>>713555760
I want Dorothea

engage 2 but now sommie is playable

>>713570812
>Chinese history is boring and samey
Compared to?

>European history
Yeah, anon, it's so original when England and France fight for the 90514261 time with the exact same outcome.

>American history
Lol? What history. Not even Americans know about American history, and they still have more of it than Canada, Mexico, or all of South America.

>Rest of Asia
Only the middle east comes close and even that is pretty repetitive if you get right down to it(Turkey, Persia/Iraq, and Egypt have basically been fighter over the same territory for 5000 years).

Chinese history is fun mostly because the personalities are fun. Same is true for everywhere else. History is repetetive by default. That's why it works as a foundation for a plot like Fire Emblem that is mostly carried by personality. Literally every single FE game since Mystery of the Emblem is just doing Mystery of the Emblem again.

>>713570329
I don't think that the BL gave him the chance to run. Alternatively, Hubert knows that Dimitri wouldn't hesitate but Thales likely thought that he would.

>>713571086
He would be too broken

>>713571192
Don't remember what kind of a state Thales was in, but it hardly the fall of the Empire when he went down.

>>713571178
Europe is way more than just England and France, to say it's samey is being extremely disingenuous. There was a ton of shit going on.
>American history
I know it's shit, Ass Creed 3 was boring as fuck.
>rest of Asia
Is also boring.
There's a reason why medieval Europe is the basis for 90% of fantasy, it's more interesting than anything else.

>>713571356
EU history is just white dudes killing each other for most of it.

we should RETVRN to the greek myth roots

More dancers (male)

>>713571469
Everyone's history is dudes killing each other anon.

>>713571609
No.

>>713555760
why are sothis and rhea different people

>>713570897
It's funny how despite her personality, she goes full tradwife in her ending

>>713571356
>There was a ton of shit going on.
Where? Scandinavia is basically just England and France again. Germany and Italy are largely just tiny states bickering for a few thousands years. Greece was basically just Byzantium and then Turks ruling over them. Spain was a nothing backwater and is only vaguely interesting in just how hard they crashed and burned.

>There's a reason why medieval Europe is the basis for 90% of fantasy, it's more interesting than anything else.
Nobody cares about Medieval Europe outside of the purely aesthetic. Mention a event and they'll stare at you slackjawed. They might, MIGHT know about the Hundred year war if they are English or France. D&D inspired Fantasy also isn't interesting in the first place. The only genuinly good fantasy work to have a medieval aesthetic didn't even base it on what most people consider the middle ages.

Rolf is so cute...

>>713571624
The main difference is that in most places shit actually happens and ends. Europe is just a endless repetition of the same few wars going absolutely nowhere. Three Kingdom period is fun because it actually ended.

Alright but seriously, when are we getting Fire Emblem set during the Age of Discovery/Pirate Emblem?

>>713571704
Depends on the ending. In some of them she goes back to being a opera singer.

>>713571854
Switch 3. Trust the plan.
>>713571841
Isn't Europe mostly unified now? It's only those silly Russians who's causing problems.

Caveman Emblem when

>>713572037
Russians are not Europeans anyways

bronze age collapse emblem fighting against the seamen

>>713572070
After Cowboy Emblem

>>713535263
>They should let Kaga / the tellius writers back instead

You'll get a Tellius sequel where they make everyone gay and you'll LIKE IT

>>713571854
Age of Discovery could work pretty well.
>Evil Empire in the form of the not Spanish.
>Heroes consist out of pirates, privateers, natives, and mercenaries.
>Story is a treasure hunt that turns into a "Stop the evil god" from being unleashed.
Only issue is FE is very reluctant to touch gunpowder for some reason.

>>713572037
>Isn't Europe mostly unified now?
Depending on how you view things, yes or no.

>>713537267
She had good ideas and did her research, just....

>>713556196
The Writers of Three Houses are the same that did the original Fire Emblem Warriors.
There were some level of plot direction from the top IS guy(Kusakihara), but the writing by and large is Koei, specifically
>Ryohei Hayashi
Primarily a Dynasty Warriors lower rung guy.
>Yuki Ikeno
Very few writing credits before FE Warriors.
>Mari Okamoto
Main writer for Dynasty Warriors Origins, but first notable credits are for FE Warriors.
Interestingly, this trio also got to write Echoes of Wisdom.

>>713542513

> fat mercie

why is it that they like to deliberately butcher the hottest girl's design? Someone explain this bullshit to me.

>>713542925
the gay characters are Heather and that cat dude no one used cause Lyra was way cuter and Ranulf was right there.

>>713572335
>this trio also got to write Echoes of Wisdom.
They wrote a completely unrelated 2D Zelda game? That is kinda nuts. I guess after doing all the hyrule warriors games plus the aforementioned success with Three Houses, they must have some good cred within Nintendo

>>713537267
A Vtuber designer was behind Three Houses.
Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn's designer does Vtuber designs too.

>>713556523
When you keep pawning up the writing to a subpar writer who got in cause the director has the hots for her if he isn't sleeping with her already, that's what you get.

>>713571801
Rolf sexo

>>713572861
I imagine a lot of the reason they keep bringing her back has to do with the initial success of Awakening and it in turn rejuvenating the series.
>Well the Fates story is horrible, but hey it still sold more than normal!
>Hrmm...nobody is buying TMS#FE. Likely because Wii U is dying!
>nobody buys it on Switch either
>Hrmmm well...likely just gaijins not understanding J-pop culture, doubt it's a problem of the writing
With Engage going out like a wet fart, do we think Nintendo are starting to suspect SHE might be the cause?

>>713572861
Awakening Fates and Engage is a real triple triad of garbage stories to have been behind the writing of

>>713542768
>Now if you're a fedora tipping redditor from r/atheism or a pride flag waving tranny then of course you'd get wet at the idea of burning down the church so you can vicariously attack your religious trauma
Speaking as a atheist who supports trannies: I've got nothing against Catholics but evangelicals are honestly just perfect villains.
>Self righteous despite being utterly batshit insane.
>Socially repressive but don't hold themselves to any standards.
>Literally want to end all human civilization and have their evil god rule over the ashes.
>Prone to starting wars to fulfill their doomsday prophecy.
>All look and sound like screaming madman.
The Church of Seiros is actually a fairly nuanced depiction of religion. Something like Genealogy or even Echoes is actually way closer to allowing people to vent their religious frustrations. Rhea being redeemable, and also way too fun as a villain, largely means it's not satisfying to destroy anything she build. Somebody like Jedah or Manfroy are way more fun.

>But if the people who make those images or ride Edelgard's clit acknowledge that then they might have to be more critical or at least acknowledge the parallels towards Edelgard herself
Edelgard is a strange one in that regard. You could make a argument she's well on her way towards repeating many of the mistakes Rhea made, but ultimately everything just kind of works out. Blame it on the writing of CF being rushed.

Otherwise, Black Eagles are a interesting bunch insofar that most of them don't really care much about her cause.

>>713572472
I don't really get it either.

I could actually accept fat Hilda. Being lazy is part of her hting.

>>713573156
Genuinely some of the worst plots I've seen in a video game, but Awakening is the least offensive of the three at least plot wise. Gameplay wise it pales compared to Fates or Engage but the plot didn't quite sink to the retarded low of the latter two. Even the child units made more sense in Awakening than they do in Fates.

>>713557567
I doubt those normalfags care about Fire Emblem as a whole, they´re only interested in 3H and nothing else. They don´t care for the franchize as a whole.

Also you´re giving too much credit to the mid story and plitting paths of the game. If you want a game that properly executes this well try Devil Survivor.

>>713572735
Nah that was a fujo artist

>>713537267

post more sexoline

>>713572861
Digging through a >reddit post and there's an interesting summation of her climb upwards
>Let's take a look at Awakening story credits. She was one of the scenario writers alongside the likes of Kouhei Maeda but the scenario supervisor was Yuri Hattori so he probably had a bigger role in how Awakening was written than Komuro
>Her role is more pronounced in Fates. Once again, she is in charge of character writing but now she is given sole credit for Main Scenario in Birthright and Conquest so she's the main brain behind both those plots despite being supervised by Maeda.
>It is finally Engage where her writing role is even more pronounced than even Fates where she is the scenario director and isn't being supervised by anyone. She's directing the scenario writers who come from outside IS and Nintendo so she has the most agency this time around and in comparison to the previous two entries.

So with each game she was given more and more control over the story, and it just got incrementally worse over time. This actually paints a dreadful picture of Intelligent Systems right now. I have zero faith they'll deliver on a new game.

>>713573270
Awakening works mostly because the whole "Trying to prevent bad future" plot is one of the archetypical good nerd stories. It's so rock solid that people are somehow still able to convince themselves the Cell saga was a highlight of Dragon ball. Outside of that, most of the plot is a retread of Genealogy with the, somewhat novel, idea that you are Julius.

You can tell that outside of that, they had nothing though. Valm arc is pretty infamous filler, and while the cast is solid and has a few stand out characters. It's hardly the best in the franchise.

>>713573584

>>713573329
>If you want a game that properly executes this well try Devil Survivor.
Devil Survivor really only splits off during the final part of the game and even then a large chunk of them are identical. TH, despite how mixed the end result was, is far more ambitious.

>>713573229
>I could actually accept fat Hilda. Being lazy is part of her hting.

But half her getting away with being lazy is that she's hot as fuck and can get people to do things for her.

>>713535150 (OP)
everybody from three houses was bland as fuck looking except for a small few. and it was still better than engage

>>713573620
Awakening certainly isnt the best story, but it's hardly the worst either. Fates and Engage ARE the worst.

>>713573707
I know. I'm sure if you genuinly think fat people are hot it makes sense though. Mercie not being a twig is weird though considering she looks and sounds like she's basically starving herself.

>>713573478
Literally unironically how does the idea of "bro like just do whatever" get approval from the executives

>>713573398
A fujo artist who designed Vtubers, anon.

>>713573778
Like I said, Awakening gets a lot of mileage out of how rock solid the core foundation of it's plot is. The fact it actually goes someway to pissing that away by basically making the entire middle largely pointless is kind of damning.

Fates meanwhile reached for the starts with a far more ambitious and novel plot and ended up failing pretty miserably.

Anyway, post Engage girls

>>713573797
To be fair a lot of the best games are made when developers are given free control to just "do whatever". When retard execs try to micromanage things that's when you get focus-tested slop. Nintendo tends to place a lot of faith in the devs to figure things out on their own in an effort to not restrain their creativity. Sometimes that faith is misplaced, but other times it leads to interesting creations like Splatoon where they're just told "do whatever, figure something out", and it wasn't until very late in development that they even settled on what type of game it would be, the characters, etc.

since we have FE players in this joint, I have a request:

I want to make a commission of Ashnard and Soren in a different timeline, 2 in fact. The first timeline is where Ashnard found the equivalent of Jesus and redesigned Daein to with the core philosophy of "becoming the strongest to protect the weak". Second commission would be how Soren would be fighting Lord if he was the ultimate Tellius beorc-laguz hybrid Ashnard envisioned.

I'm going for the first one for now. I'm thinking of asking for a request of kid Soren summoning wind to blow peddles in the air with Reyson and/or Leanne singing with Ashnard and Almyra watching as proud parents.

For the second, I'm probably going to go and make Soren look like Sephiroth at the end of FFVII. One dragon winged beast or some shit. What do you boys think for the first one?

>>713573938
It's a double edged sword, but I think some degree of budgeting does help out a lot. You don't want something like Anthem where they wasted millions just coming up with ideas.

I have no idea how much Splatoon 1 cost, but I'm 99% certain it was less than Anthem.

>>713573908
But I don't care about the Engage girls. That's all anyone cares about with that game and the girls aren't even that good.

>>713573783
No one thinks that shit. Even BBW know fat is not, they're just aroused by fat fucks.

>>713573908
plapis

I honestly want to see Fire Emblem do something similar to Genealogy again. Three Houses kind of tried something similar with it's two act structure, but it wasn't really the same.

>>713573908
>>713574173
alcryst's wife is so cute...

>>713574146
I guess.

Fat Bernadetta might make the most sense, the more I think about it.

>>713573587
Eh, I'd argue the mess in Fates was worse than the simpler but not necessarily clean Engage.
Supposedly there were something like 22 writers total on Fates, and 10 on Engage.
Three Houses, outside the directors, had 3 people who were already used to working together.
Earlier FEs have even less writers.
It probably is to a certain degree a case of too many cooks.

>>713574108
Half of that is fostering the right talent and giving them a reason to stick around. Modern AAA studios will lay people off left and right, during down periods etc etc. Nintendo devs are given a ton of freedom to do whatever. That being said, intelligent systems are still technically their own studio rather than being directly under Nintendo's supervision, even if they work on a lot of Nintendo stuff.

Anyhow I don't think Anthem is a fair comparison when games like FE are made on much, much smaller budgets. They do reign them in, they're not giving the total freedom to go fully crazy. At the end of the day they're still being tasked to make a strategy RPG that at least closely resembles Fire Emblem and its core gameplay.

>>713573698
Don´t act like 80% of 3H´s routes aren´t as identical in every one of them.
Desu was just as ambitious with the whole Tokyo Lockdown premise.

>>713574108
>>713573938

Do keep in mind for Nintendo, you're allowed to do whatever, until you come up with the design document to greenlight and get to production. Splatoon was a small team working on a prototype and Miyamoto really pushed them to figure out a decent mascot or it'd get Mario'd.

Also note that Intelligent Systems and Gamefreak are independent studios. They get access to develop for Nintendo but they have autonomy. Which is a double edged sword in that they don't get the same level of tard wrangling to meet typical higher standards of game quality inhouse Nintendo games typically have.

>>713573908
I care, I asked

>>713573698
3h is 80% reused content between its routes.

>>713535150 (OP)
That design is utterly hideous.

>>713573908

>>713574412
Yeah, Gamefreak and IS have a lot of similarities honestly, and I've always considered IS more competent than GF for obvious reasons, but it is clear that the lack of supervision can lead to some really poor decisions in a lot of cases that you wouldn't see with one of Nintendo's core studios.

Monolith Soft were once in that position as well, but Nintendo saw the value of acquiring them 100% because of all the great work they did with BotW, Mario Kart, Splatoon, and the flagship Xenoblade games of course. Xenoblade is still their own thing to do whatever the hell they want with, Nintendo doesn't really supervise that and gives them the freedom to make any game they want essentially because they're that useful to have around. IS and Gamefreak just don't provide in the same way, but at least Gamefreak has the golden goose. IS just has...a series that almost died, and the let's just say volatile Paper Mario series. I really hope they get their act together because they at least have potential to make a better fire emblem game. Sorting out the writing team might not seem like a big deal but it is when you're playing an RPG that's extremely character centric with long weaving stories. This isn't the 1990s anymore. People expect these games to at least try in the story department. Hard for me to get excited about the future of this series no matter how refined the gameplay becomes if they're going to keep giving people like Nami Komuro full control over the stories and characters.

>>713574379
I love Desu. It's probably my favorite SMT game, which almost certainly makes it one of my favorite games of all times. It's also pretty much the only SMT game where the endings actually view like valid choices and not just the villain winning. With that said, the split in most of those games does tend to happen very late for a reason and even then a lot of the fights are largely identical(Even if that does make sense). The only truely unique route largely just being a glorified bad ending. Even if you could very well argue it's as ambitious as Three Houses, I imagine to the layperson it probably won't feel that way.

Bit off topic: I will never not be pissed about the Fire Emblem X SMT crossover not being based on Devil Survivor despite how obvious it would be.

>Don´t act like 80% of 3H´s routes aren´t as identical in every one of them.
Eh... Crimson Flower and Azure are both fairly unique compared to SS and VH. Granted, a lot of them do recycle maps and bosses, but like with Desu a lot of that does make sense. It's very... Koei design in that regard.

Post porn cowards

>>713574818
>the let's just say volatile Paper Mario series.
is this the part where we pretend origami king was bad

>>713574497
I still remember when it leaked and people swore it was fake lol.

>>713574908
I'm certainly not going to pretend it was good. That battle system is horrendous, and that's the meat and potatoes of the game. The visual design is at least interesting and at least for them the game sold well. But it was a controversial title. So then they make the remake for the gamecube game and people didn't really show up to buy that either. Paper Mario is in a tough spot right now is all I'm saying.

>>713563687
based

>>713574894
>STOP DISCUSSING GAMES AND GOON WITH US!
how about you kill yourself

>>713573908

>>713574338
>That being said, intelligent systems are still technically their own studio rather than being directly under Nintendo's supervision, even if they work on a lot of Nintendo stuff.
What have they made that isn't for nintendo?

>Anyhow I don't think Anthem is a fair comparison when games like FE are made on much, much smaller budgets.
I agree, but I also think that makes all the difference. Games like splatoon, and to a lesser extent Fire Emblem, get a lot of mileage out of the fact that they don't have insanely bloated budgets.

>people are defending nu paper mario now

>>713574894

>>713575073
are we discussing games in this thread or are we doing the same tired routine of bitching about character designs in a game you've been obsessed with hating for 2 years
I'd rather goon.

>>713575089
>>What have they made that isn't for nintendo?
It's been a while, but they're still not owned by Nintendo. Just one of their close partners.

>>713574818
I have some faith in IS for two reasons:
1: They are very much willing to try new things. Going from Awakening to Engage is frankly a pretty crazy journey.
2: Echoes is honestly kind of shockingly competent and earnest. I think there's enough mileage in remakes, and seemingly the passion to execute them well(At least nowadays), that I do at least have something to look forward to.

>>713575145
this

>>713575145
go play with your penis or axe wound then retard

>>713575145
I'm not obsessed about hating the game, but if you're going to keep making engage threads and pretend like your shit doesn't stink, don't be surprised when someone drops a trvke on why nobody game a shit about engaygie.

Is it so wrong for people to discuss where the series went wrong? If you can't deal with that, maybe don't make a thread about it

>>713575116
Does Super Paper Mario count?

I will defend Super Paper Mario to my dying day. Yes, the gameplay is pathetically easy. But the ideas are brilliant and I wish they would be tried again.

>>713575191
I hope you get burned by their sheer incompetence again

>>713575248
So you admit you're obsessed, fucking grim

>>713575323
I'm a fan of Fire Emblem. I put hundreds of hours into each game. Not really a super fan, don't play the gacha. I liked Engage but I found it disappointing. I think it's fun to discuss Fire Emblem and the future of it. Not really interested in gooning, just like the games.

I will laugh if the next game is fatesawakening 4.0 again

>>713575248
I dunno man you want me to take your shit opinions seriously while dropping gems like "engaygie". maybe get off the internet a week loser you do this all day.

Piss

>>713575309
>Burned
Mweh. I liked Three houses.

Should play Engage, frankly.

>>713575402
I don't post in FE threads frequently though, nor do I even post on /vg/ where most of these people come from I presume. Just sharing my thoughts on the series. If I see a Fire Emblem thread, I *might* have some back and forth with a few anons, but I'm certainly not here all day. Think you might be projecting and are just sad nobody wants to jack off with you

>>713575469
>I like pretentious garbage
Play metaphor you would feel right at home

Anyway fire emblem sucks, thanks for attending my ted talk

>>713575191
Would you prefer a new game right now or a remake based on the current state of IS, Switch 2 and that sort of thing?

>>713575469
>>Should play Engage, frankly.
Wait for the Switch 2 patch.
Meanwhile Three Houses will get the Switch 2 Edition with a new story quest line!

>>713575078
Veyle's ass

>>713561534
>>713562018
Never forget

>>713573894
I honestly think a lot of the decisions made for Awakening were made to have the series go out with a bang. Walhart is tangibly related to the plot in that he could easily roll over the Grimleal and they want him gone, but he's really there to serve as the evil emperor that most games have. And he's defended from Alm and you can recruit him this time! Not a bad way to go out, but obviously Fire Emblem stuck around.

>>713575580
I would prefer a remake.

>>713575559
>Pretentious
Eh... not really.

>>713575735
I'm trying to play through every previous FE game first. Including the once I've already beaten.

>>713573908

>>713576379
I mean... did anybody care about Gaiden when Awakening came out?

Otherwise, I mostly agree.