Is gaming losing soul on its own or is it because of society?

I'll miss those yellow bastards.

>>713556291 (OP)
TOP:
Silent Hill games made by Team Silent.

BOTTOM:
Silent Hill after being outsourced to the west.

>>713556291 (OP)
Everything is getting worse

>>713556506
/Thread

bottom is better

I went to a dark sky park last year and I tripped the fuck out realizing that I’m actually looking at the Milky Way at night, light pollution is demonic

>>713556506
This has been debunked

>>713556291 (OP)
bottom is objectively better

>>713556703
By whomst've?

>>713556291 (OP)
>soul restored due to corrupt government contract abuse

>being nostalgic for piss filter

>>713556291 (OP)
Bottom is safer

>>713556854
by israeli experts

>>713556291 (OP)
It's not just streetlights, it's these screaming white demons that people have for car headlights now.
>>713556506
Real.

The yellow makes people more likely to violentally attack
white pacifies people who would stab you

>>713556291 (OP)
Streetlights are whatever. What we really need is to outlaw those bright as fuck LED headlights on cars these days. I can't see SHIT at night anymore

>>713556723
yes but autists can't handle change. literally, it's a part of the disability.

>>713556291 (OP)
It's losing soul because of the invasion of the stock market, shareholders and the CEOs whose job it is to maximize revenue for the aforementioned.

bottom looks great when there's snow on the ground

>>713556291 (OP)
top is fake sovl
this is real soul

>>713556658
>tfw light pollution is so bad here that besides the brightest stars on a clear night I can't see shit and it's never getting properly dark
Feels bad man

Fuck light pollution.

>>713556291 (OP)
>Zoomers will never experience the snowy orange light comfy combo
Zoomers are the most retarded generation that has ever existed, they let everyone take the great things off them

>>713557162
>people from the beginning of history until 1800 had this view every single night

>>713556291 (OP)
fuck they did this to our street and it hurts

>>713556291 (OP)
There is something magic about yellow and orange lights in the night

>>713557162
This.
How the fuck can you call street lights soulful.

>>713557513
>implying this isn't soulful as fuck >>713557304

incels are honestly mentally ill
they would latch on the most retarded boring shit nobody gives a fuck about and pretend it's some deep thought when it reality it's a bunch of conspiracy theories parroted by people who know nothing

>>713557553
Now imagine if there was no artificial light.

>>713557680
soulless

>>713557513
Because they used to be closer to firelight and sunset tones, mimicking the natural beauty of what came before.

>>713557417
No it's sunset weather lighting, that's real soul.

i like warm light in my bedroom but i hate it in my kitchen and bathroom

>>713556703
On average, it's true.

>>713557669

>>713556506
>>713556291 (OP)
Even doctos are getting dumber.
80s Doctors were basically geniuses compared to a 2025 doctor.
Society is slowly collapsing, the real collapse started last decade and it the implosion will be slow but visible in 15-20 years.

>>713557089
I fucking hate this with a burning passion.

>>713557162
SURELY there’s a theoretical way to have street lights but not also fuck up the sky, right?
Something I’ve realized when growing up is that when it’s cloudy at night I can literally see the whiteness of the clouds, that’s way too damn bright

>>713557892
>schizo ramblings
for some reason most """"critical thikers""" are fat incels living in their mom's basements and their daily routine is
>wake up at 3 pm
>fap
>eat hot pockets
>masturbate some more
>screech about jews on 4chan that somehow prevented them from having a good life
>games or anime
>fap
>go to sleep
aka picrel

>>713556506
tpbp

>>713558348
don’t let lolipedos see this

>>713558205
Well no, not if you wanna have them bright enough that you're safe to walk around
Also city blocks and cars produce more light pollution

>>713558336
and here's your typical leftoid

>>713558336
>>wake up at 3 pm
>>fap
>>eat hot pockets
>>masturbate some more
>>screech about jews on 4chan that somehow prevented them from having a good life
>>games or anime
>>fap
>>go to sleep
Holy fucking based

>>713556996
>safe and effective

>>713557089
I take early morning walks all the time and this pisses me right the fuck off. I have half a mind to buy the highest lumen flashlight I can find so I can shine it into their eyes and see how they like it. I hope they crash and are unable to ever drive again.

>>713556291 (OP)
>soul
Hey retard, they use LED lights now because those actually let you see shit. Streetlights don't exist for "muh aesthetics", they exist so people don't get run over or stumble into a bear.

It lost it, over time due to the nature of change.
But in my town, those LED streetlights had a "feature" and when the gas decayed, the light turned into a cool shade of purple. Now every night drive is calm in relaxing in a new way. The old soul will never come back, that's a sad fact. But if we close our eyes, we'll never see what's worthwhile with the new soul.

>>713558336
The modern critical thinker is literally A neet version of Kinobody
Not dumb enough to do illegal shit and get caught like that lazy fatass.
The beautiful ones like in the rat utopia experiment.
See vid related for rutine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-n-9DgqyWY

>>713558445
>Also city blocks and cars produce more light pollution
Do tell, sounds interesting

>>713558336
Not too different from the philosophers of old. They were all unemployed, albeit usually independently wealthy, people with nothing better to do all day. What other kind of person has the luxury of wasting time thinking about things that ultimately don't matter?

>>713558659
It's really not that interesting, street lights generally point down which means the light only gets reflected upwards. Cars and light leaking from windows or private lights are usually pointed sideways so a lot of light escapes directly upwards
https://www.nps.gov/subjects/nightskies/sources.htm

>>713557304
Most zoomers are barely adults

>>713557348
>after an earthquake hit LA the emergency service department was inundated with hysterical calls about, "silver clouds in the night sky."
>It was the Milky Way being seen for the first time, because the power was out.

>>713558876
The left side, and only the left side, looks like a model
Weird

You shouldn't be able to look outside at night and have the ground be illuminated as if it was mid-day. It's messing with our bodies.

>>713558798
I personally think it's interesting because I've never been able to tell how much cars actually directly contribute to light pollution, like "blocking the actual sky" type of obstruction because headlights are typically pointing forward and not straight upwards

>>713557892
Instead of believing image macros you saw on facebook, you could just look up shit or actually READ a BOOK.
Conspiracy theory is just a combination of the words "conspiracy" and "theory", which is only associated with crazies due to David Icke, Coast to Coast, and the Satanic Panic (all of which were quickly followed by or existed during 9/11). The term itself is not denoting anything crazy and giving a group such a generic term would be political suicide- because again, conspiracy and theory are both standard words. To theorize about a greater conspiracy.

Additionally, this idea literally was disproven. Your post leaves out the actual source of where the CIA supposedly invented the term, but there is a document on the report where these claims originate from, and it says
>proponents of the theory use as evidence of CIA motive and intention, does not contain the phrase "conspiracy theory" in the singular, and only uses the term "conspiracy theories" once, in the sentence: "Conspiracy theories have frequently thrown suspicion on our organisation [sic], for example, by falsely alleging that Lee Harvey Oswald worked for us."[62][63]
One time.
Fucking retarded, go back to facebook.

>>713558750
>Not too different from the philosophers of old.
yep
same shit
one has produced literary works that are still interesting to study hundreds years into the future
the other wrote 21409320423243429 posts about jews on the frog forum
they both just exist, but the other is literally just rotting away and finding explanations for it in anything else aside from himself

>>713558645
>falls for fad diet so he can look like a comic book character
This is the mindset that creates trannies by the way.

>>713559027
Warm yellow light actually helps to sleep because for centuries and millenia this is the color your ancestors would see before going to sleep, the warm color of fire
The white lights actually fuck up your sleeping rhythm because the body is wired to think is still mid-day

Does /g/ ever have threads on color temperatures and spectrums when it comes to LED lights?

>>713559262
>evolution happens over a timeframe of centuries
uh huh

You all jerk off these lights, but at the time you piss and shit your pants when games from 2007-2011 add a green, orange, or brown filter.

Reminder to install f.lux or whatever other addon you want to make your screen use warmer colors after sunset

>>713557040
>It's not just streetlights, it's these screaming white demons that people have for car headlights now.
I can't fucking stand these things, I can never see anything when I drive at night now. Whenever one of these niggers pulls up behind me I take my foot off the gas.

>>713556291 (OP)
Up looks like a raping game level.

>>713559512
this

>>713559146
I wonder if ancient Greeks ever complained about the Jews.

>>713558205
>>713558445
What if... Let me finish... We had lightbulbs that produced light that wasn't visible to the human eye unless you were wearing some sort of special glasses. That way you could still see the night sky but when you want to walk around and actual see things at night you just put on the special glasses.

>>713559512
most os have that built in tho

>>713559480
lighting =\= filter

>>713559587
Leaving aside the fact that jews are a plague, it's pretty funny to think that back then monotheism must have been as weird as polytheism is today

>incels are honestly mentally ill they would latch on the most retarded boring shit nobody gives a fuck about and pretend it's some deep thought when it reality it's a bunch of conspiracy theories parroted by people who know nothing
>anything else you want to say before the cops take you away?

>>713556291 (OP)
That's your attitude. You will have the same summary regardless of reality.
Don't use the gword.

>>713556483
Homecoming is great. The latest asian offering wearing the Silent Hill name is degenerate.

>>713556506
Your influence is degenerate. It is not entire.

>>713557417
Japan disgusts me. Yellow light doesn't right it.

>>713557669
You're a coward. Nothing is worse than you. Destroying minds and bodies with surgery, drugs, confinement etc... advocated is the advocate forfieted forever. You do not matter. You are only enemy. Celibacy should be involuntary, sex is great, but only when it's right. Some have standards and see themselves as beneath them, so protect something sacred from being a disappointment. Exploiters, rapists, aren't standard. Aren't to be. Women and sex idolised is optimal, expected assured and provided is your shit. Nice people different. Problems solved before paradise. You wouldn't understand. You don't care at all. And don't produce heaven required for lust and love. People angered at wrong are right, issues like you resolved aimed at before fucking and moving to another chapter. Shirking duty would spoil the faith from females, make it false. That matters to men.

>>713557040
>running your high beams in to oncoming traffic illegal
>but modern day ultra bright leds, much brighter than any high beams 30 years ago A-OK

>>713556291 (OP)
This is one of the reasons why i love going to my grands' house.

Nowadays light pollution hit there too, I vividly remember one night when i was like 10 or 11 where i was looking at the sky and almost tripped over like an idiot for how much in awe i was by looking at the stars

>>713559868
>more schizo rambling
quite literally not reading all that, happy for you or sorry for your loss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iqqokBxYIY

>>713556658
probably one of the biggest mindfucks of my life was visiting a dark sky place in Utah during a new moon, driving away from the campsite, and realizing that I could actually still slightly see myself under the light of the night sky alone, like holy FUCK I now understand how they charted all those constellations way back then

>>713559480
I didn't give a shit. It added to the game's atmosphere and crafted whatever aesthetic or theme they were going for. Now they just wash everything out, slap UEFlextape, and call it a day. Graphics have improved to make games look incredibly-mind-numbing boring, and dead.

>>713557417
You're reaching in our genetic memory of campfires thousands of years ago

>>713560003
Leave the women alone she is having period

>>713556424
neighborhood by me has fake yellow ones and its worse than both examples in op

literal irl forced soul

>>713560142
no retard, don't defend garbage just because we have garbage now, that's poor form, tonemappers were garbage made by retards and poorly made ue5slop is garbage made by retards they're both inexscusable

>>713560142
This i agree with, not necessarily the glazing over the piss yellow filter era, but even that was way better than "pHoToReAliStIkH!!1!11!1" graphics.

It seems like having a creative vision for a project became somehow hard now that there are thousands of ppl behing a single game

>>713556723
>>713556645
Yes, if you are trans

I remember going to rural country for a work thing and one of my colleagues was surprised how many stars you can see cause he'd never been out of the city

>>713557040
I hate these things so much its unreal

>>713557304
zoomers are way older then you think and grew up with it

>>713557892
Did you know that 100% of infographics to excuse mentally ill behaviors are completely made up?

What snacks should I buy tomorrow to relive the soulful days?

>>713556291 (OP)
Gaming has reached its full market saturation (give or take), which has led to an emphasis on returns over experimentation.
Further more, the lack of funding for research and development and the high overhead for creative risks has lead to oversaturated genres, overworked creative types, and a plethora of live-service/dlc pushing/micro-transactional focused games.
Technological leaps previously prevented stagnation like this.

>>713560003
Stupidity, wrong is all you say right.
As said you're done. Nothing for you. Seperate from special in all situation.

The best don't stay under your spell.
There are standards you siphon them, erode them, suck. You do not contribute.

Anything can be lessened by you, warped, mutilated, deprived, and still be beyond anything you could be in eternity.

You sold your right to respect. Anything awarded to you is mistaken. There is better and people regardless of what they are called should be for that.

Your alternative of submission should receive scowls, no recognition etc. Never taken. You have nothing to offer. Any presented of paradise by you is stolen, and nothing to do with you. Not required to be you to receive. Had so, as you, is anything reduced.

>>713560813
That is exactly what the deep state wants you to believe.

>>713556942
There are several of these on a major freeway in my city. They seem to be reluctant to fix them. It's been over two years since they were installed. At first I thought it was on purpose rather than faulty bulbs.

>>713560889
If only they would shift their focus to optimization before monetization.

>>713560891
Earth has 4 days simultaneously each rotation.
You erroneously measure time from one corner.
The hollow Time Cube in which the 4 quadrant corners of Earth rotate, equates to your 4 corner bedroom, or to a 4 corner classroom which represents the 4 corners of Earth - in which stupid and evil pedants teach dumb students 1 corner knowledge. Each of the 4 corners of Earth is the beginning and ending of its own separate 24 hour day - all 4 simultaneous days within a single rotation of Earth. Place 4 different students in the 4 corners of a classroom and rotate them 4 corners each. Note that they rotate simultaneously wthin the same Time frame as if only one is rotating - just as the 4 different days on Earth rotate. 3D math applied within this hollow Cube would be erroneous math, as it would not account for the 4th corner perspective dimension. Place a 100 people within this Cubic like room and they will not increase the number of corners anymore than 6 billion people on Earth will increase the 4 corners of Earth. It is dumb, stupid, evil and unworthy of life on Earth to claim that this Creation Cube has 6 sides - or no top and bottom. Academia equates to a deadly plague.

>>713556942
aren't these lights suppose to stop heroin addicts from shooting up?

>>713561238
TimecubeSCHOLAR…

>>713561308
No, they are malfunctioning

>>713556658
We need light pollution because women think they're gonna get raped if it's dark outside. I've had two moids spontaneously confess this while talking about this very topic.

>>713561430
Oh shut the fuck up, women pretend they're gonna get raped any microsecond whether there's lights or not
It's the equivalent of you constantly going on about how scary being mugged is because there's a 0.001% chance of you being mugged at night

>>713556291 (OP)
I lived outside the country for 6 years and when I came back everyone had absurdly bright LED headlights that blinded everyone at night. What fucking retarded kike tricked everyone into this and how did it make it past testing?

>>713560891
have sex

>>713561515
Watch your language.

>>713561515
SURPRISE!! We thought it would be funny

>>713561515
This one wasn't on purpose. The laws on headlight intensity and angle were fuzzy, are still too fuzzy. Manufacturers want to make them as bright as possible because their customers like their own car's headlights to be blinding (just not anyone else's).

>>713556291 (OP)
It's because society has become more and more draconic, pruritan, political and distracted by genuine threats to economics like War.

It's mainly because big corporations become bureaucratic by growing too big, and subsequently minimize expenditure on the stuff that used to make games special, to maximize profits. So they have more hands on deck, while asking them to make "more content" more efficiently, one olive short of a martini.

That leads to this feeling that while games are technically "bigger" they somehow feel smaller and less full of surprises than they used to. And thirdly, the push for better work conditions and unionization is such that game companies can't get away with asking devs to stay to 2am for weeks on end to make the most in-depth version of stuff. They go home and only work 6-10 hours per day, and get less attachment to the work they're doing, less focus and less detail.

So in the end the only resolution is to create truly boilerplate design as seen in Ubisoft crap or Breath of the Wild, or Cinematic Slop where they always unload what's behind the player, and keep a thoughtless barrage of enemies in front of you interspliced between cutscenes that move the story forward, completely detached from any gameplay interaction.

That's why video games are less soulful now. They're made on tried and tested methods, by talent that increasingly doesn't know how they arrived there, working shorter hours, caring less about what they're doing, and yes, a lot of that is also coming from society's war against corporations, but it's also coming from corporations wanting to make more and bigger slop for less money.

>>713556483
SH1 and 2 used mostly white light doe, and that was a good thing.

>>713556658
Too bad, gotta block out the sky with satellites so India can have better internet.

>>713561651
Shut up, kike.

>>713561741
You got me good.

>>713561778
But how was it not immediately regulated after for being dangerous?

>>713559047
>>713558798
the angle of the light doesn't determine if it makes the sky too bright to see, just how much of an impact it has, any light, at all, ANY light, contributes to light pollution.
reflected light is still very bright and clouds the sky.

if you turn on the lights in your house, can you not see anything where light isn't directly shining? can you not see in an adjacent room just from reflected light?
cars massively contribute to light pollution, street lights massively contribute to light pollution, even when they are not pointing directly up, because light pollution is the general mix of light that makes for an unclear view of very distant light.

>>713561215
sorry anon, the company's bottom line is top priority at the end of the day and they'll gladly pay a billion jeetshills online to call people like me and you retards for even THINKING money would ever stop being first

>>713557892
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled". You have just to look at the first three replies to your post to see this in action.

>>713562352
Based sameLORD

>>713559360
It's 4chan; everyone is on the spectrums

>>713560889
I've never seen a more clear and well-written explanation of why gaming has stagnated. Saved.

>>713560889
>Gaming has reached its full market saturation
lol
there are literally billions of people who don't know what games are

>>713556424
I don't that shit pissed me off as a kid

>>713559360
if you mean the light strips for decoration, you bring up LED shit on /g/ you (rightfully) get called a faggot so no not really
if you mean monitors and color calibration then yes

>>713556291 (OP)
It's all of society. There is a direct correlation with the rise of the internet dominating every normies life and the soul decline everywhere you look.

The Internet was a global Pandora's box and we opened it.

>>713563074
Steve Jobs opened it with the iphone. I never wanted normalniggers here.

>>713562968
I meant things like street lights and house lights desu

>>713556291 (OP)
They replaced the old orange lights to the white ones right outside my room, I miss that hot glow coming through my window, now its bright as fuck and I have to roll my curtains down.

>>713556291 (OP)
There are still a lot of games made that have "soul," but a lot of context is missing when people say things like "video games were better back then." In reality, consoles like the PS2 had absolute mountains of shovelware for every Silent Hill 2, SotC, Katamari Damacy, etc., just like we see today. The main problem is that game development is no longer an evolving process; it's already preconfigured and determined for many developers who are just aiming to make more money by outputting more homogenized slop onto the market. We're not in the experimental phase of gaming anymore, where you see unique and original concepts being tried by big studios like you used to see. Instead, the responsibility has been placed in the hands of smaller teams or individuals to make truly unique or experimental games, or just games that have "soul" to begin with. One notable exception is Kojima I suppose.

>>713563138
Let’s place blame where the blame is due: it was letting anyone but Western Europe, the US, and Japan have internet access.

>>713556291 (OP)
>because of society?
imo society is becoming more modularized and mechanistic, "regression to the mean". Actresses strive to look the same, so they can fit into any role. Buildings all look the same so any business will fit inside it. Even corporate branding is about fitting nicely in an SVG so you dont get JPEG artifacts. So you're right, gaming lost its soul because of factory sentiments, each part of the assembly line requiring the same-shaped inputs and outputs, so naturally games are reduced to being the collection of same-shaped components

>top: Deus Ex Human Revolultion, 2011
>bottom: Deus Ex Mankind Divided, 2016

>>713563074
>The Internet was a global Pandora's box and we opened it.

Honestly things were fine until social media. Before that the internet was mostly harmless in relation to the real world and broader society.

>>713556506
This is fact. Apart from medical science and the advancement of technology - of which doesnt necessarily make life better. Id say everything i can think of is worse than it was 20 years ago

>>713561308
Yes, they're meant to make it hard for addicts to find their vein.

>>713563521
Right wingers ruined the internet, the Indians you hate count too because they voted for modi

>>713563403
>they installed them along a park path
>movement sensors
>walk through at night
>get repeatedly blinded and have night vision ruined
>anything outside the lit area is a dark blob
>night vision readjusts as I get past it
>next one triggers
I miss being able to actually see in the dark with the old sodium lights

>>713556506
trvth nvke

>>713563754
All thanks to globalization.

>>713556291 (OP)
/g/ was right
bottom is fucking ugly

>>713557162
i havent seen stars in southern ontario for like 20 years

>>713563521
>Before that the internet was mostly harmless in relation to the real world and broader society.
Because it was contained and the majority of people still didn't use it in 2007 and if they did it was briefly. Today you walk outside and literally every person is looking at their phone (internet) or about to within the next 15 minutes.

>>713563458
It's dev by committee.
It used to be there'd be a director and it was their vision that was being made. With smaller teams there'd be less dissenting voices to appease or consider and they'd have some real ownership over the work they did and your input was valued even if ignored. Now it's in the 100s if not 1000s of devs overall on one project, too many people to please, too many people to take input from, you get bombarded with bulshit and worn down to make concessions. It's not a specific committee but the result is the same.

>>713557892
And the term "useful idiot" was coined by a Lenin. What's your point?

>>713556658
>tfw moved to a place near a Dark Sky reserve and spend at least half an hour every night looking up at the stars

>>713559868
>Homecoming is great.
Kek. Generic artstyle, poorly written story, repetitive gameplay. An ok game on its own, a horrible SH game.

>The latest asian offering wearing the Silent Hill name is degenerate.
Compared to the Team Silent games? Maybe. Compared to the western games? An absolute masterpiece. And it's not even out yet.

Nah you’re just getting older and finally realize video games are for children

>>713556658
>we know more about space and the stars than ever before in human history due to technological advancement
>but we can't actually see them in most places

>>713560319
>fake yellow
wut

>>713557417
Visit Takayama.

>>713559047
>headlights are typically pointing forward and not straight upwards
did you think light pollution comes from people shining lights up into the sky

>>713556658
What the fuck is a dark sky park and what level of urbanite do you have to be to even invent such a term?

>>713557040
'''people''' who drive around with these on full blast at night should be gunned down, unironically. After 'returning your shopping cart' I feel like this is the most common litmus test for if you can be a trustworthy member of society or not.

>>713564767
yellow leds to simulate the old lights

>>713556658
>went to highlands in Australia
>super clear sky and didn't recognize a single star
Very surreal experience
>>713564923
Lol I thought the same thing, I guess there is some international organization for it.

>>713557273
Man the right side of this pic really reminds me of my own neighborhood. At first glance I thought it was like 1 or 2 blocks away from my house.

>>713565082
Yeah, leds can only do full band white or limited band of a specific colour or by coated casing. Old sodium lights were full band but predominantly yellow which they can't mimic.

>>713557348
not really
the milky way is called milky because it looks like dim gray blobs to the naked eye
the sheer number of stars is more impressive
a no light pollution night sky is plastered with an overwhelming amount of stars

the awkward growing pains of led is worth having a lighting technology that is much more efficient and portable. we now have advanced to a point where we can essentially replicate the comfort of salt mercury, it's only a matter of cities making the adjustment. it would have been stupid to stay with the inferior tech permanently just because we'd need to endure 10-15 years of too bright leds.

>>713557040
>>713564981
Imagine having one of those atrocities behind you and just slamming your breaks as hard as you can causing it to flip in the air and just crash into the ground a few meters in front of you.

Imagine the driver surviving and trying to get out coughing blood only for you to curbstomp them into a pulp.

>>713565867
I just let off my gas and make them seethe.

>>713566121
>I just let off my gas
From your car or from your ass?

We're having this kind of thread every year. You're just getting old. Nostalgia-fagging is not good for you.

>>713556506
Insane how normie 4chan has become lately. Like sure you'd always get kinda generic popular answers to things but the fact that so many people unironically relate to this notion without more clowning on the post... Literally your emotional response of "everything is getting worse" is just 100% normie culture le adulting so hard!!!! shit. Like you might as well be jamming out to 21 pilots - stressed out lmao

So can you see actual color with your eyes when it’s super dark?

>>713566526
just return to /pol/ if you want le edgy kill all the jews talk, but everyone is over that now because it's boring. 4chan culture is normal culture now because the blackpill is mainstream and obvious.

>>713566558
Are we talking sky or land?
>Land
Exact colour? No, but we can differentiate tones and thus shapes in shadows. Side benfit of the amount of green cones in our eyes that helps differentiate between green shades, which is also why green is the chosen colour for night vision technology.
>Sky
Yes, because it's just actual direct light with some minor atmosphere interference and potential red shift (things moving away).

The warmth of yellow lights was lost even in anime.

>Old cel animation
>They'd have transparent parts of the cel in which they'd literally shine halogen bulbs through the cel and into the camera lens for every still frame
>This is what made that seemingly hand-drawn sunset so overwhelmingly bright compared to digital renditions of the same shit

>>713558031
This. It's insane how low quality is the average professional. Not only the things are decaying but also people themselves are dumber and less healthy. It's scary to realize how everything is decaying at such an accelerated speed. It feels like we are trapped in a body horror nightmare scenario.

>>713566993
Oh I meant the sky, like pic related is from wikipedia but I’m assuming that photos exaggerate how much you can actually see with your own eyes

>>713567327
Nope, if it's clear enough and dark enough. You see that shit.
There's a reason everybody in history looked to the heavens and made stories about them or used them as navigation tools.
That is what they saw regularly. The majority of us have only been cut from it for less than 150 years or so.

>>713562928
Why?

>>713556506
AI will save it

>>713566819
>implying /pol/ is the only alternative option
not saying you have to feign a flowery happy outlook, doomerism isn't totally unwarranted in several facets of the world today, but to conflate as if everything is the worst its ever been like youre literally just making incorrect statements to fuel the emotional reaction of a depressed 20 year old. Everyone goes through doomer shit when they reach a certain age irregardless of how reality actually is, the beach boys made an entire album about how the world is over and humanity is fucked because of polluting the ocean like 2 years after they made pet sounds.

>>713556658
>Technology took something as simple as the night sky from us
I don't know when it happened but I used to be optimistic about tech. Not so much now, especially since social media took off over a decade ago

>>713567327
Dunno why that's on wikipedia cause they're pretty reliable but realistically 6 is your Excellent Dark Sky Site, 1 - 5 are unseeable with the naked eye.

>>713557084
This sounds like something the Korean government would say.
They've installed speakers to play classical music in dark and mostly deserted tunnels because 'it reduces the chance of violent crimes occurring.'

>>713556506
Checks out
>>713556703
Fake news

>>713557304
>they let everyone take the great things off them
What did you do about it?

Better pic

>>713556291 (OP)
I hate those fucking white/blue LEDs so much it's unreal.

>>713557680
Would be pretty dark during a bout of snow, innit?

>>713556658
>mfw rural Missouri fag so get really bewildered and legitimately sad seeing posts like this because some people never get to see that kind of natural beauty for themselves
My grandma said that when she was a girl you legit could see aurora borealis on really clear nights during the dead of winter until electricity started getting really invasive in towns

>>713557040
I just switch to high beams when I cross one of those absolute fucking niggers.

>>713556291 (OP)
Games are made by society.
Society currently has no soul.

>>713567630
Yep. It's why you're seeing all these mega-corporations investing everything they can into AI and doing everything to prevent legislation getting in the way. They know we're on the verge of a societal collapse, and AI is the only way to possibly save it within the next 2-3 decades. If America gets roadblocked in developing its models in anyway, it's game over, because China will just take over the world in terms via AI controlled manufacturing that bodies anything we could ever hope to produce. The Chinks will be the only true superpower left by the end of the 21st century.

>>713561430
>We need light pollution because women think they're gonna get raped if it's dark outside.

i mean they are not wrong but then again many women voted to import the dark into the west so whatever women say doesnt matter because they dont have a brain

>>713567630
>>713568367
>Actually Indians
jej

>>713559262
You are in control of the lights in your own home. This is not an issue unless you sleep on the street

>>713560889
This path is NOT wheelchair accessible.

>>713556506
Pretty much.

>>713568634
>Pajeets developing AI
Comical, they can't even run a successful scam call center.

>>713568435
>After decades of men in the UK being called racist conspiracy nuts, empirical evidence is released showing Pajeets are more likely to rape women and children by a factor of thousands of percent
>We're talking of a population count of 4% in Rotherham, Pajeets accounted for over 60% of child rape cases
>Women immediately turn heel and start turning the conversation into "all men"
Incredible, it's like they want to be raped by genetically inbred fat skinny retards.

>>713556291 (OP)
the problem isn't leds, it's digital cameras

>>713568907
that wasn't the right one lol

>>713559262
Serious question.

WHY AREN'T CITIES USING A WARM YELLOW FILTER OVER THE LED LIGHTS?

I don't get it. The led lights can have the exact same brightness level only with a more aesthetically pleasing color. Why the actual fuck aren't filters being implemented?

>NOOOO I NEED MY SOFT LIGHTS SO DRUG ADDICTS AND GANG MEMBERS CAN DO ILLEGAL THINGS
>I HAVE TO SEE THE SPARKLY THINGS IN THE SKY OR ELSE
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE

This aint the 20th century, chuds. Grow up and get with the program already. I say this as a 45 year old man.

>>713568907
No, the problem is actually the LEDs, not sure what you're on about. Digital cameras don't change the fact that every street lamp is now a 4000 lumens blue/white light instead of a soft orange one.

>>713556291 (OP)
>volumetric fog is not realisti-

>>713569109
More like a 45 year old ma'am

What’s the point of trying to bait when you use words that immediately give you away?

>>713569090
it's not the same

>>713556291 (OP)
Humanity is losing its own soul. It's not just gaming. We're going to replace ourselves.

>>713568907
>>713568968
>LED lights are unpleasant to look at
>Anon says "just change your camera, bro"
People don't have a camera glued to their eyes 24/7, you fucking schizo.

>>713569109
Drug addicts and gang members will do illegal things until you cleanse them from the Earth.

>>713556291 (OP)
Society is losing it's soul because of games.

>>713567942
>1 - 5 are unseeable with the naked eye.
Wrong, retard, you've never been more than 30 miles from a town with light pollution if you think that

>>713556506
>Everything
Nah. You are simply witnessing the end of the last few remnants of the old European order. The future does not belong to them, they wasted it during world war 1 and are now facing the consequence.

The world didn't end with the fall of Rome, it won't end with the last few remnants of the west finally collapsing.

>>713563667
This.

If the internet is to have a future. It will be payed for in the blood of right wingers. When every country seems them confined to mass graves, the internet will be a thing of goodness again.

why do bots

always space

like this

>>713556291 (OP)
They go hand in hand.
However, games can still be made with soul despite society. You should encourage others to stop using the internet so normies get the fuck off it.

>>713556291 (OP)
It's because socialism is making the production side independent from the customer (while still forcing them to pay for it).

Tax payer dollars -> agencies -> NGOs/government contracts ->institutional investors -> game companies

The end result is that people who are entirely focused on the aforementioned machine and view you as peons to be controlled are the ones running the show. Don't be a useful idiot and blame this on capitalism. Force them to answer to you. Destroy the socialist machine.

>>713567949
>They've installed speakers to play classical music in dark and mostly deserted tunnels because 'it reduces the chance of violent crimes occurring.'
This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old, ultraviolence

>>713569738
Trvth NVKE

>>713568824
My favourite stat:
over a set period (can't remember the year range off the top of my head), the number of natural born british boys entering adulthood was 300,000. Foreign born boys of the same ages entering the country over the same period was 600,000.
But the message was teach boys in school not to rape.

>>713567630
AI will make everything even worse by aiding scam artists, feeding disinformation, creating layoffs and job scarcity, accelerating climate change and generally making people stupider (using flawed language models to do the thinking for them). Only tech billionaires, nihilistic "own the libs" conservacucks and literal pajeets love AI.

>>713568367
You are right, AI is pretty much our way out of this place. You have an increasingly number of people who don't know how to do things property anymore. You have a Younger generation that is throwing up and giving up at the smallest of bumps.
AI will be the way to counter balance that

>>713569738
Bullshit

>>713570675
>AI seething
>muh disinformation
>muh climate change
>muh everyone is stupid but me
I hope this is just a shitpost because lmao

>>713571225
VERY based, I just bought even more AI shares

>>713571225
how does sam altman's cock taste?

>>713571312
I don't even know who that is bud.

I mean it makes sense, this retarded site is bought out by AI companies to the point that literal on-topic vidya discussion will get randomly nuked but we have a 24/7 Dall-e and Claude general for some reason

>>713570245
>the number of natural born british boys entering adulthood was 300,000. Foreign born boys of the same ages entering the country over the same period was 600,000.
Britain is a non-natural entity so it makes no sense to say someone "natural born" there

>>713557162
can't deny

>>713556291 (OP)
I really prefer cold light, makes it easier to see and it just feels natural.

>>713568824
>by a factor of thousands of percent
No?

>Pajeets accounted for over 60% of child rape cases
Lol. Most pedophilia is done by close friends. 60% just means everybody is covering for each other like the catholic church.

>>Women immediately turn heel and start turning the conversation into "all men"
Because if you actually care about stopping rape, the issue starts with men. They are universally the cause in every place. If they stopped being a problem, so would rape.

>>713571581
to differentiate between the children british people and british citizens.

>>713556658
>>713564354
Yeah this, I've been on vacation in a village in bumfuck nowhere in my country before. I sat kinda tipsy next to a dying fire at night, I looked up and I fucking fell off the chair. The view was absolutely stunning, never seen anything like it. I could see all the gas clouds and colors and shit man.
Makes me sad to know that a night sky like this was completely normal to our ancestors. I wonder what they were thinking when they looked up and saw a view like that.

>>713572049
>british people and british citizens.
What's the difference?

>>713573159
Why are you pretending to be retarded?
>>713572024
>actually not having evidence of white people raping kids is just proof they cover it up!
Why do you worship evil people who do nothing but bring violence and lower living standards?

>>713556506
It's not "getting" worse. It's being made worse. To make you pay for things to get better.

>>713573502
>>actually not having evidence of white people raping kids is just proof they cover it up!
You see: We have evidence of them raping kids. If you really want to claim England of all places is somehow exempt, you are going to need more.

>Why do you worship evil people who do nothing but bring violence and lower living standards?
I don't, I despise nationalists and want to see them all dead. Thus I support immigration to make that a possibility.

>>713574014
shalom rabbi

>>713574327
My hatred of nationalists also extends to Isreal. I know you don't care, but literally the second group of people I would execute after native nationalists would be zionists.

>>713556291 (OP)
>disable piss filter
>/v/ gets mad
Faggots, never cry about color grading ever again.

>>713574014
What the fuck did nationalists do to you?

>>713574014
What possible benefit could you see in making every place and every person on Earth the same vaguely brown corporate branded shithole?

>>713569562
Why are you looking AT the lights?

The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it...

>>713573502
>Why are you pretending to be retarded?
Even if it's obvious you should be able to answer

>>713574854
That's literally what you're doing right now though

>>713574602
On this site? Be incredibly annoying. Historically? World war 1 and 2. In general? Be subhuman wastes of skin.

>>713574665
It benefits humanity, mostly. I don't believe in tolerance, you see. Values are not subjective because we know reality is not, you are either right or you are wrong. If there is one set of correct values, then why shouldn't they be applied to everybody to ensure that humanity mutually prospers?

world has lost its soul

>>713575407
>If there is one set of correct values, then why shouldn't they be applied to everybody to ensure that humanity mutually prospers?

Are you talking about Christianity? What are the "correct values"?

>>713575407
>Why yes, all of my values are the objectively correct ones cause reality says so
wow anon, crazy how that worked out

>>713575479
>Are you talking about Christianity?
No, Christianity suffers from the fact that's it's fake made up bullshit.

>What are the "correct values"?
That is largely debatable. I overall think the most important correct values are to emphasis humanity and the understanding of reality as principal goods. That's why by default harming nationalists is good, actually.

>>713575407
>ethnic nationalists
>national socialists
There's nothing wrong with nationalism in and of itself

>>713558565
High arc sodium lamps have existed for decades among other alternatives that were also used for decades and give a light that's more natural than both the low-arc bright yellow lamps OR the stark white* (actually blue) LEDs, but they're more expensive than slamming a couple flashlights on a pole and saying fuck it, if you hate your eyes getting flashbanged and the dazzle constantly disrupting your vision just don't look at the lights bro.

>>713575618
>I overall think the most important correct values are to emphasis humanity and the understanding of reality as principal goods.

I have no idea what this means. I think you're just using words without understanding the meaning. Thank you for the answer, anyway. I'm adding this thread to the 99% autofiltered shitskin section of the board. Please enjoy each other's company.

>>713575407
>It benefits humanity,
In what way?
>If there is one set of correct values
There aren't, because different races and cultures have different priorities and needs. That's how different cultures arose in the first place. Different people are different and they should stay that way. It's hilarious that you decry nationalists for causing world wars through conquest, presumably because you think they believed in wiping out other races to impose their cultures, and then propose the exact same thing yourself.

>>713567847
>Technology took something as simple as the night sky from us
When you word it that simply yet obviously, it makes me really goddamn sad.

>>713575590
>My values are the objectively correct ones
They are, most importantly, more correct than you. Because, yes, reality does support them. The very concept of a nation state is... ridiclous. On it's face ridiclous even. It's why I pick on them in particular. Sexism and racism might be discredited but at least it requires actual research to understand that if you don't just want to accept first hand experiences. Religion is also pretty retarded, but at least you could have a valid discussion of it's merits as a concept. Nationalism? It has nothing going for it.

>>713575618
I overall think that a nation dragging itself down with it's own problems can't effectively solve the problems of another nation. That is why nationalism is important. We must elevate ourselves to elevate others

>>713575619
There is: It's bullshit.

>>713575727
What I am saying is essentially that they should prioritize human lives and the betterment of human civilization as the highest good. But that this should be measured by understanding reality and applying knowledge.l

>>713575895
>There is: It's bullshit.
you keep saying this and then don't back it up. Hows this for accepting reality: repeating an assertion and not giving any evidence to back it up is retarded and doesn't convince anyone.

Keep up the good work gents, you’re making rapeape’s artificial engagement plan flow smoothly (LOL)

i got some 1800k led bulbs for my house and i love them

>>713575407
>Values are not subjective because we know reality is not, you are either right or you are wrong.
This reads like teenage pseudointellectualism. I really hope you're still a teenager.

>>713556942
>Disco Mode cheat activated

>>713575746
>In what way?
Because if there is one correct path humanity as a whole would benefit.

>There aren't, because different races and cultures have different priorities and needs.
Race isn't real. If you don't understand that, finish high school biology. As for cultures: To whatever extent they have value it is when they are subservient to humanity, not the other way around. Memetic ideas that control human thought are inherently evil and should be done away with.

>Different people are different and they should stay that way.
Everybody is different from everybody else. That is inherent and does not change no matter what culture people have.

> It's hilarious that you decry nationalists for causing world wars through conquest
I decry them due to causing world wars out of failure and, in the case of world war 2, outright malice and a hatred for human civilization.

>presumably because you think they believed in wiping out other races to impose their cultures,
No, I decry them for being so driven by their own cultural ideas and arbitrary borders to in any way see the big picture. They destroyed themselves over nothing. And we know it to be nothing because ultimately all it took to sort this out was for the Soviets and the Americans to just eat them into behaving with zero negative effect.

>and then propose the exact same thing yourself.
Race isn't real. I don't propose wiping it out for the same reason I don't propose wiping out elves. As for culture: I propose wiping it out if the memetic ideas that make up cultures prove unable to remain subservient to humans.

>>713575863
The problem dragging down any given nation are nationalists, so that's a moot point. Besides, if everybody is on the same level only then can problems actually be solved. All nationalism needs to be exterminated before anything can get better.

>>713576012
Because the burden of proof is on you. There is no such thing as a nation state, that is fairly self evident. If you want to argue there is: proof it.

>>713576123
You sound like a drooling retard that never finished high school and is below even a teenager.

>>713574014
>I despise nationalists and want to see them all dead
>Thus I support immigration
Kek. Who's gonna tell him?

>>713576195
>>713576249
ywnbaw, faggot

>>713575820
The very concept of a nation state is necessary. One entity can't rule everything. There's just too much. It's why nation states are divided into smaller pieces. Cities under counties under provinces under nations under kingdoms under empires

>>713575889
Reminds me of Super Bowl kickoffs and how you used to see flash bulbs popping all over the crowd, and now you don't see them at all.

>>713576249
Nationalism is the only reason my nation's housing crisis isn't any worse than it is

>>713576320
>You sound like a drooling retard that never finished high school and is below even a teenager.
I'm an accomplished scientist with a PhD. I literally can not possibly be more educated in my field. I'm much, much smarter than you. You sound like a very brown and very stupid teenager. Or a self-hating white homosexual.

>>713576351
It's not. Even if we accept the notion that one entity can't rule over anything, that does not mean that should take the form of nation states. To whatever extent decentralization is required nation states exist as a made up barrier totally absent any real communities.

>>713576439
No, it's the reason why it's a issue in the first place.

>>713576195
I agree with anon you're just spouting vague phrases that make no sense. I'd bet 10 grand you're either ESL or an actual teenager who's watched some youtube videos on geopolitics and thinks he's figured out the world's problems. Don't worry, everyone was there at one point.

I thought this would’ve been a thread about lighting infrastructure desu, no wonder this site’s traffic is going down the drain

>>713576519
>I'm an accomplished scientist with a PhD.
Doubt that considering you clearly never finished high school. If you did you would know that white is made up as well.

>>713556291 (OP)
They need to stop using these super bright white lights for car headlights that shit is blinding as soon as any other car is on the road.

>>713576320
>Because the burden of proof is on you
Is it? You're the one with the clearly unpopular worldview. Maybe you could elaborate on it so we can actually argue the merits of it instead of just calling you a retard cause we don't have much else to work with.

>>713572024
Women abuse children more than men, #allwomen

>>713576526
If you seriously don't understand anything I am saying, somehow, then actually point to them and ask me a question, dummy.

>>713576648
>is it?
Yes. You are defending nationalism. so, justify that.

>You're the one with the clearly unpopular worldview
Appealing to authority now?

>>713576595
>Doubt that
Unlike your views on what's right and wrong in society, this is actually a matter of objective fact. I'm more educated than you'll ever. I'm smarter than you. You're a retarded child who understands nothing of the world. On the off chance you're baiting people, great job. On the good chance you're not, I hope you grow out of it.

>>713560319
At least someone had the foresight to think about it before changing to LED. I don't see how orange LEDs can be worse than the OP example.

>>713576195
>Race isn't real
Kek. You are either underage or just outright trolling at this point.

>>713575895
Human civilization and individual human lives are at odds with each other. Humanitarianism stalls progress

>>713576743
>This is actually a matter of objective fact.
Then prove it. Using hte word white disqualifies you from being human. So, you got quite a step to go before you can demonstrate you are more intelligent than anybody else. Right now, you have to demonstrate that you are sapient. So... get going.

>>713576780
Race is self evidently fake on top of it being scientifically disproven.

>>713567601
nta but I used to have one of those orange street lights outside my house. It did not illuminate anything. A nigger could stand right below it and be invisible.

>>713576363

>>713575618
>No, Christianity suffers from the fact that's it's fake made up bullshit.
Ow, the edge. Not like people have NDE's every day and talk to God or anything. Or that we have literal evidence of the earthquake that happened when Jesus died and dated it right to that time as well, among the other 500+ prophecies he fulfilled.

i just want more comfy nighttime city pics not pajeet ramblings

>>713569090
because by ommitting the filters, the city didn't buy them, and some assistant city manager got a bonus by saying he reduced spending

>>713576784
The betterment of human civilization can be measured in a variety of ways, but largely they involve the improvement of the lives of individual humans.

>Humanitarianism stalls progress
It is either the measure of progress or simply a means of achieving progress. Regardless, if you want to build a civilization in which human civilization is valued more than human lives then that is certainly worth discussing.

>>713557304
Can't really blame zoomers. I get mad at how lootboxes, and unfinished game releases are normalized for them, but at the end of the day, it is what they grew up with so they don't know any better. Gen Y and Gen X are to blame for letting it happen.

>>713576878
Angry brown child it is.
>on top of it being scientifically disproven.
You know nothing of science. You've never published any work, done any research, or even read through a paper. You read some worthless pop news article summarizing some fringe work no one actually cares about and now you think you know what "science" as an entity says.

>>713576904
>Not like people have NDE's every day and talk to God or anything.
Schizophrenia exists.

>Or that we have literal evidence of the earthquake that happened when Jesus died
I'm sure a Earthquake happened somewhere in the world when your great grandfather died as well.

>among the other 500+ prophecies he fulfilled.
Name 3. Try to stick to actual history, not your made up fantasy novel.

>>713576525
No, the reason is foreign investors buying up every available parcel of land and building megahomes that nobody can afford. You mind explaining how nationalism did that?

>>713576195
>Because if there is one correct path humanity as a whole would benefit.
That doesn't answer the question. Benefit how?
>Race isn't real.
Don't talk about objective reality and then deny something as fundamental as race.
>I decry them due to causing world wars out of failure and, in the case of world war 2, outright malice and a hatred for human civilization.
You've shown that you yourself have nothing but contempt for human civilization, as your goal is to completely destroy it by bringing everyone down to the lowest common denominator. You think everyone everywhere should be the same.
>Everybody is different from everybody else.
You are more similar to your family than you are to a random African across the world. You have shared values, understandings, needs, etc. And the Africans across the world have their own shared values, understandings, and needs that differ from yours, that they agree on.

You're either a very good troll or an actual 13 year old from the Vaush discord.

>>713576784
Not necessarily. Not every act of humanitarianism is based in self-destruction and fruitless endeavors. Like sure, sending a bunch of rice to poor niggers only to get them shot by the local warlord looking for a meal is probably not the smartest thing to do. But having a social welfare net, in the sense of having a purposely built structure to keep productive people from starving to death rather than gibs, is very useful for society. But only if they're productive.

>>713559262
>sounds comfy
>idea
>change my fans, RAM and keyboard RGB to dark orange
>it is indeed very comfy-looking now that it's dark

>>713576998
>believes brown is real
Subhuman.

>you know nothing of science
I am human, you are not. Therefore I know more than you by default.

>>713576519
PhD's aren't real

>>713577123
Did you know that a white person can't get a bone marrow transplant from an African?

>>713577053
By using arbitrarily drawn borders to control the price of land.

>>713577123
You're dumb, uneducated and brown. Your objectively incorrect opinions on science and socioeconomics don't matter.

>>713577201
What?

>>713576878
>self evidently fake
You know damn well that if that was the case, it wouldn't even be a topic of discussion, you cheeky troll.

>scientifically disproven
More like shut down. Chris Langan and James Watson send their regards.

>>713560865
Whatever you ate as a kid at sleepovers. For me it's bagel bites or totinos pizza rolls. It'll only really work if you do it with someone else, though.

>>713577073
>Benefit how?
If one path works better than the rest, then all humans would only benefit from adopting that one path.

>Don't talk about objective reality and then deny something as fundamental as race.
Race is made up pseudoscience with no bearing on either reality or genetic structures. You would know this is you finished high school.

>as your goal is to completely destroy it by bringing everyone down to the lowest common denominator.
1: My goal is literally the exact opposite. I want to bring everybody up to the peak. 2: Even if that was my goal, and it's not, that would not be a total destruction, it wouldn't even be a partial destruction.

>You are more similar to your family than you are to a random African across the world.
Of course. Because family is a real thing. I am however closer to a intelligent person living anywhere in the world than I am to a subhuman racist or nationalist. Much like how your average fundamentalist Christian is closer to a fundamentalist Muslim terrorist genetically and memetically than he is to a liberal.

>And the Africans across the world have their own shared values, understandings, and needs that differ from yours, that they agree on.
They do not, because African isn't a real group. As for their values and understanding, those are simply wrong. Nothing else to it. Even their needs are ultimately irrelevant compared to basic human nature.

>>713577183
They can, actually. Very easily, in fact. Oh, sure, it's less likely. But it's also possible that you can't get a bone marrow transplant from their own parents. Does that mean your parents are a different group from you?

>>713576964
>some assistant city manager got a bonus by saying he reduced spending
And that city manager has a name and address

>>713577586
>If one path works better than the rest, then all humans would only benefit from adopting that one path.
You're not answering the question. Benefit HOW?
>Race is made up pseudoscience
>Because family is a real thing.
Think really, really hard about these two statements. A race is an extended family.

>>713577365
Subhuman opinions do not matter, anon. Please, go away.

>>713577391
If there was no nationalism, there would be no profit in building homes like that nobody can afford. Why would there be? People could simply move somewhere else.

>>713556291 (OP)
>NOOOOOOOOOOO IT NEEDS TO BE HECKIN BRIGHT AS DAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE KNIGHT BECAUSE A RAPISTRINO MIGHT BE HIDING IN THE SHADOWS

>>713577425
It's not a topic of discussion, because it's been discredited.

>Shut down
No, it was discredited. Because it was bullshit and easily disproven by actual genetics.

>>713577712
People moving elsewhere means they constantly flood areas with unsustainable population levels, which causes the cost of living to inflate, including housing. If there were 3 million less immigrants in America, there would be more space and less people clogging up housing which would cause values to drop because the people selling or renting would need those properties filled. Leave the Vaush discord, it's bad for you.

>>713577674
>How
By ensuring mutual prosperity, both materially and spiritually.

>A race is an extended family.
No, it's not. My aunt is extended family. Somebody living in France is not. Hell, even somebody living in the same city as me is not. They are nothing to me than another human. Why would they be anything else?

>>713577712
Pretty hard to move somewhere else when you've got thousands of miles of ocean surrounding you and barely more than enough money to make ends meet

>>713577828
>People moving elsewhere means they constantly flood areas with unsustainable population level
Please. Unsustainable by what standard?

>which causes the cost of living to inflate
No? If there no nationalism, then inflation would be a non issue.

>If there were 3 million less immigrants in America,
And if America didn't exist and it was simply part of the greater one world government of a world without borders, then there would be even more space as every part of the world would now be possible land for citizens to settle on.

>>713577875
>Pretty hard to move somewhere else when you've got thousands of miles of ocean surrounding you and barely more than enough money to make ends meet
Not really, no. Even ignoring that the price of living would completely collapse in a world without borders, there are ways of buying houses right now.

>>713575618
>No, Christianity suffers from the fact that's it's fake made up bullshit.
kind of like AI but now you have people treating it like an omnipotent supergod

>>713575889
that's a lot of hitmarkers

>>713577926
What the fuck is this bugman mentality

>>713577993
Yes, exactly like that, actually.

AI is shit programmed by humans. Christianity are fantasy stories written by humans.

>>713578036
It's reality. If there was no borders, then the cost of living would crash as living space would become a non issue.

>>713577926
How do you intend to erase thousands of years of divergent culture? Many of which people will lay down their lives for

>>713569738
Did they say the world is ending? No. They said everything is getting worse. Which it is. You'd be retarded to say otherwise.

>>713577847
>By ensuring mutual prosperity, both materially and spiritually.
HOW?
>No, it's not. My aunt is extended family.
And what about your aunt's aunt? And your aunt's aunt's nephew? That's what a race is. An extended family. Shared genetics.
>>713577926
>Please. Unsustainable by what standard?
The standard you're talking about. Resources are a zero sum game. Not only housing, but food and material resources. You can't infinitely flood a place with people because you will hit a breaking point and people will die.
>If there no nationalism, then inflation would be a non issue.
How the fuck do you think this statement makes sense at all? Not only does nationalism not have anything to do with inflation, we're talking about the value of resources increasing because more people are competing for it.
>And if America didn't exist and it was simply part of the greater one world government of a world without borders, then there would be even more space as every part of the world would now be possible land for citizens to settle on.
There's already a ton of land in the places immigrants are coming from. Do you know why they aren't settling there, and instead are moving to competent countries that can actually build houses? Because the issue isn't space, the issue is they want free shit. In a world without borders there won't be infinite housing. There will be 30 million brown people living in the burnt out ruins of Los Angeles without electricity.

>>713556506
>AIIEEEE THE STREETLIGHTS ARE BO LONGER YELLOW
>WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SOVL OF THE BIG CITY??
>MY CLITTY IS LEAKING!

>>713578172
Mostly by letting nature take it's course. The best system wins by default. That is why globalhomo is doing so well for itself. Remove any artificial barriers, and basic meritocracy will take over.

Anybody that puts more value on memes than people is not a person by a basic definition. They can be eradicated without consequence, no different from removing weeds. Though I doubt it would be necessary.

>>713578247
Everything is getting worse for them. Because their civilization is finished while others are blossoming.

>>713578337
Yes!!! Let's allow the best system at taking over other systems to destroy everything else and win by merit!!!! I am so enlightened.

>>713557089
I had to get black out curtains because of those shits and I live in the suburbs. It's ridiculous, nobody needs lights that bright. If granny can't see without her absurdly bright lights, than she should stop driving or get Old Yellered.

>>713577758
>It's not a topic of discussion
It's literally being a topic of discussion in this thread, you fucking retard.

>discredited
If that was really the case, it wouldn't be the trending topic it is nowadays. To be fair, your own stupidity makes a really good argument for race being real.

>disproven by actual genetics
James Watson begs to differ.

>>713578337
So your plan is to let the world fight it out and may the strongest come out on top. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette, eh Jack?
Imperialism seems a lot worse than nationalism to me but you're the expert

>>713578251
>HOW?
If a system works then it will work for everybody. It's no different from applying the scientific method.

>And what about your aunt's aunt?
That's called "My mother".

> And your aunt's aunt's nephew?
That's literally just fucking me, you idiot.

>That's what a race is
Myself?

>Shared genetics.
Humans are 99,9 identical to Chimpanzees. Want to invite one into your home? They are your family, according to you.

>Resources are a zero sum game.
Not really, no.

>Not only housing
We have enough homes.

>But food
We have MORE than enough food.

>Material resources
See above.

> You can't infinitely flood a place with people because you will hit a breaking point and people will die.
You can't infinitely flood the planet, sure. But that has nothing to do with nation states.

> Not only does nationalism not have anything to do with inflation, we're talking about the value of resources increasing because more people are competing for it.
Because without nation states the pool of resources people are competing over becomes incompressible larger.

>Do you know why they aren't settling there, and instead are moving to competent countries that can actually build houses?
Because resources are currently being gatekept by arbitrary borders? That's part of the whole grift. Resources are kept in a few select arbitrary places, divided by arbitrary borders, then those places are forced to compete over limited living space.

If there were no nation states. This would be a non issue. Resources would be available in places with large amounts of living space, and living space would be available to places with large amount of resources.

>There will be 30 million brown people living in the burnt out ruins of Los Angeles without electricity.
No, there would be 30 million brown people not actually needing to move to Los Angeles.

>>713567601
Not him but they were curiously ineffective as lights. The monochrome made it hard to see what you were looking at, just orange and black shadows

>>713578247
but it's not getting worse in my third world shithole, yes it's still a shithole but it's better than the shithole 10 years ago

>>713578454
Yes.

Like, what point are you even trying to make?

>The system is bad because all it can do is win over and over again?

>>713578539
>It's literally being a topic of discussion in this thread, you fucking retard.
It's not. You are spouting gibberish you can't defend or justify with real science.

>If that was really the case, it wouldn't be the trending topic it is nowadays.
It's not. It's been completely discredited by any actual science and is totally excluded from mainstream debates.

>James Watson begs to differ.
Which is odd considering his research was discredited along perfectly scientific lines.

>>713578596
>World fight it out
Of course not. My goal is to wipe out all nation states and then simply see what values and ideas people pick when there are no barriers in the way.

>>713556291 (OP)
Definitely society. Movies are gonna be all AI before you know it. Music too. Our entire culture is gonna crumble.

>>713578760
>This would be a non issue. Resources would be available in places with large amounts of living space, and living space would be available to places with large amount of resources.
Oh yeah let me just spend 30 gazillion dollars shipping pineapples to Siberia because everything has to be available everywhere.
Resources aren't gatekept by borders. They're gatekept by the fact that they can't be generated everywhere. Most of them are privately owned too. National borders are not an obstacle

>>713578960
Ah so you're more of a Skullface than an Armstrong. Better get plenty of nukes because the American military industrial complex is unsurmountable

>>713579069
Adding to that, national borders specifically protect what resources the local populace can produce.
This guy has an absolute moron's view of economics. He wants a single absolute government to handle everything a state would, but then doesn't want anything from it that a state would actually enforce. He wants to see what individuals humans choose under an absolutist ideal system. It's worse than half-baked because you can tell he's trying to pretend there aren't glaring contradictions and inconsistencies by glossing over the topic entirely.

>>713556658
LOOK AT THE FUCKING STATE OF CITYFAGS

>>713556703
you know what? fuck you.

it is now REBOONKED

>>713557304
This is an AI generated image, look at the cars

>>713579069
>Oh yeah let me just spend 30 gazillion dollars shipping pineapples to Siberia because everything has to be available everywhere.
Is it easier to transport things with or without borders?

>Resources aren't gatekept by borders.
Yes, they are.

>They're gatekept by the fact that they can't be generated everywhere.
Which is why people living in a fucking wasteland have more to eat than people living in a jungle.

>National borders are not an obstacle
Again, yes they are.

>>713579416
>He wants a single absolute government to handle everything a state would,
Not necessarily. I actually think some degree of decentralization would be welcome. Anything is preferable over the current system, really.

>but then doesn't want anything from it that a state would actually enforc
Like?

>He wants to see what individuals humans choose under an absolutist ideal system.
I want to see what people would choose if the arbitrary barriers were removed.

>. It's worse than half-baked because you can tell he's trying to pretend there aren't glaring contradictions and inconsistencies by glossing over the topic entirely.
Not really, no. Feel free to point them out if you spot any.

>>713558205
You can't, you either have something bright enough that lets you see at night or you allow every nigger and druggie rule the afterdark with no repurcussions.

>>713560865
snacks have all been enshittified as well. they changed the ingredients on everything to save money

>>713578853
That's fair. I guess people (including myself) are too focused on the western world. I'm glad things have improved for you.

>>713559596
i will live in the hobbit hole and i will be happy

>>713556291 (OP)
Bottom is objectively better because you can see the street and lessens the chance of someone hiding to rape some walkerby or mug them.

>>713579912
>I want to see what people would choose if the arbitrary barriers were removed
The people won't choose anything. The guy with the biggest stick will choose for the people and make new arbitrary barriers

>>713581048
Then the guy with the biggest stick will decide for all of humanity and civilization will improve as a result.

>>713568285
Why does he have the fucking spice in this pic

>>713581231
The guy with the biggest stick will take what land he can, put a fence around it and then either force you to go conquer territory for him or have you wait on the fence for any other big stick guys who want his territory

>>713556291 (OP)
Feminism is the gentrification of society and since becoming the dominant ideology of the world, it has infiltrated every nook and cranny of intellectual (and some of the physical) labour we create.
Gentrification, or the departure from nature, can be a good thing but in this case, it is not. It is allowing the weakest of our species to thrive, the dumbest to survive and the most evil to get away by appearing good.
The result is the death of struggle and in its wake we have "cleanliness".
Conflict is the only way a soul is born. A soul, a true soul, requires struggle. Overcoming the struggle is how we got where we are.
Removing the obstacle was a mistake.

>>713580574
>>713559596
underground homes are kino too bad they're impossible where i live

>>713556291 (OP)
I replaced all the lights in my room yellow/orange lights. really changes my mood. Highly recommend.

>>713582640
I got stained glass bulbs (that don't work very well) and a salt lamp for super cheap, and it's pretty comfy cozy.

>>713582640
probably fine for the bedroom but you ever need to turn on the light during the day like if its super overcast, you really want a white light

>>713582751
>stained glass bulbs
I have a few of those for my lamps as well. Never going to touch LED, Florescent or Halogen again. They are absolutely soul sucking

>>713556506
>says the faggot that never leaves his house
It isn't getting worse, get off of /pol/ and twitter

>>713582863
I can't do it anymore. White lights hurt my eyes.

>>713579019
Maybe.
DAWs somewhat killed my interest in music. Maybe AI will do the same for other mediums I enjoy. Who knows.

>>713558031
>>713563560
i generally treat doctors like dangerous predators and only enter their territory if its an absolute necessity for survival. medical errors are still the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. that makes them more dangerous to you than
>every other natural disease that isnt cancer or heart disease
>car accidents
>plane crashes
>being active duty military in a warzone
>every dangerous career that exists
>terrorists
>police overreach
>every actual predator in the animal kingdom
it's insane to me how much trust people invest in them. the overwhelming majority of them that aren't world class surgeons that you can't afford anyway are basically call center IT guys that use symptoms databases to make barely-educated guesses on what's wrong with you before trial-and-erroring medications with side effects on you until something partially works (at your expense of course).

>>713556658
>Live in a rural town
>Have to drive 45 minutes for a verterinarian
>Doctors are like living in Idiocracy
>Low quality goods and services
>Always say "But the sky is beautiful and so are the trees"
>Never go out at night because of how dangerous it is in such deep darkness

>Recently go to a Houston
>Going out with new friends, 2AM
>Step outside
>Can't see stars, but there's no need for flashlights or lamps to see 10 feet in front of you
>Robust assortment of goods and services, both luxury and necessity
>Close proximity to friends and events

The grass is always greener, anon.

>>713583298
>>Never go out at night because of how dangerous it is in such deep darkness
I feel that one, I never go outside without a gun at night. But I enjoy the rurals immensely

>>713583298
>>713583384
i've been hiking unarmed (well i have a few knives ofc) in hammersley wilds area in PA for years now and to be honest, i never once considered that i might've been in danger. the area is one of the darkest areas in the continental US and has no cell service or roads.

>>713583384
What about it do you actually like
Each passing year I feel like I'm spreading thinner and thinner
The neighbors aren't neighborly anymore, it's just drug addicts everywhere now.
Every winter for the past 4 winters I've come closer and closer to suicidal ideation, only to be saved at the last second by the sudden onset of spring.
If you went back 5 years and told me I'd yearn to live in the city, or the suburbs again, I'd tell you I was crazy.

>>713563651
hahahaha I love you burgers so much
What next, schools with children painted on the walls so the shooters have harder time aiming?
Never change, you gorgeus dumb idiots

>>713556506
nope

>>713557669
you're literally doing the same by making this about sex

>>713563651
lol is this real? i just can't imagine an addict saying
>damn! can't find my vein. guess i just won't do the drugs

>>713559057
true

>>713583635
Injecting into muscle tissue would be a waste of drugs

>>713562928
autism level?

>>713563754
This is gonna look real funny when AI and robots can work 24/7 and people get fired or don't get hired in the first place

>>713583512
I don't enjoy being around people, seeing them, hearing them, talking to them. You aren't wrong about the negatives aspects of rural life, but it's nothing that kills my desire to be here.
>>713583498
>i never once considered that i might've been in danger.
You're probably fine. Bear attacks happen occasionally here, and you might have a rabid animal or two. I'm mostly concerned about other people. As that other anon mentioned there are plenty of drug addicts around doing who knows what in the woods.

>>713584586
yea i know, i re-read my post and it looks like i'm insinuating that it's unnecessary but that's not the case - was more remarking that i hadn't considered that and have potentially been in danger from other people, like you said. had a really close run in (~5 ft) with a black bear at night once when i stepped out of the tent to take a piss. scared the shit out of each other and each ran the opposite way.

>>713584763
>scared the shit out of each other and each ran the opposite way.
Sounds like a typical encounter. Those little buggers are just looking for some human munchies. Some leftover foods. More of an annoyance than a danger imo.

>>713579763
Looks real to me, especially the plates.
If you're talking about the black mark on the rear windscreen of the car on the right, that's the break in the snow caused by the presence of the windscreen wiper

>>713556291 (OP)
I still live in the above section image of OP's image i think. I don't know if we're actually still using sodium vapor lamps but it looks close so it might be. I've seen some sparse use of white LED lights further into town. But it's mostly all still just yellow lit streets for me. I miss mercury vapor lamps too. You can see it in lots of old 70s and 80s films at night.

>>713558876
wo ist das?

>>713576195
>Race isn't real. If you don't understand that, finish high school biology.
Go ask a surgeon what he thinks about organ transplants between races.

>>713578760
>If a system works then it will work for everybody. It's no different from applying the scientific method.
No it will not. People are different and they have preferences. Forcing people into a single mold is exactly what causes tension and conflict in the first place.

>>713556291 (OP)
>Holds gaming back decades
Your first sign was the downgrade we got with watch dogs. After that corporations got better at hiding the pc downgrades. Gotta make sure those decade old consoles don't look absolutely shit by comparison! This is most likely why we'll never get bloodborne for the pc.

>>713579763
>no turing noise in the snow
It's real.

>>713558140
>those beams shooting off
is this astigmatism? why cant i see shit at night

>People are nostalgic for those awful sodium vapor lamps
God those things were the worst. Couldn't make shit out. Everything was just yellow and black. Made the worst buzzing noise when they were getting old. Those things were a goddamn nightmare.

>>713575889
>>713576894
I might concede with the lightbulbs but this here is literally just autism. Top is objectively worse.
I don't want to fucking see a bunch of fucking flashing dots, I want to see the fucking wrestler or the damn game.

It's like you're never allowed to dislike things without 100 people jumping on you to argue some pilpul bullshit

>>713556291 (OP)
I don't really know if it's either of those options desu

>>713578098
And so would the entire 1st world structure that made it worth living in it in the first place. 3rd world shitholes are cheap as hell to live in, 1st worlders dont migrate there en masse because they are boring wastelands. Accordingly 3rd worlders rush to 1st world for the same reason.

>>713558876
>Welcome to Hokkaido, 47

>>713557162
>mama used to roll her hair
>back before the central air
>we'd sit outside and watch the stars at night
>she'd tell me to make a wish, and I'd wish we both could fly
>I don't think she's seen the sky since we got the satellite dish

>>713558975
This is literally horrible. You like this shit? Everything is stained hazy orange. Its like people being nostalgic about smog. What the fuck.

>>713587813
not everyone likes staring at some kind of stark white lit up office cubicle like you

>>713587813
it's pure aesthetic sovl that matches the night energy. you just have very low taste IQ

>>713556291 (OP)
Fuck piss filter streetlights. They were shit and I'm glad they're gone. Anyone nostalgic for them is ether too young to clearly remember them or doesn't remember how shit they were.

>>713591031
I don't personally remember them but I have looked at a lot of pictures so I think I know what I'm talking about.

>>713556291 (OP)
>top healthy sleep

>bottom insomnia

why they want to torture us?

>>713592050
because they aren't human, and its the core of their beliefs that humans exist only to serve them, and their promised land only becomes reality when all humans are subjugated and brought low by them.

>>713569738
>Everywhere on Earth is going to be a violent, disgusting, dysfunctional ghetto that looks like a mix of Somalia, India, and Pakistan
The world ending would be preferable, but I suppose this is considered a victory to rats like you

>>713583564
I saw this shit in Sydney too, went to a public toilet and was blasted with UV light, I thought some prankster had swapped the lightbulb out for a laugh

>>713592050
Have you tried closing your drapes

>>713558205
yes, it's called pointing the damn lights downward, it's a waste of energy

>>713556506
Nah, there's just much more of everything and that not only means there's much more mediocre/bad shit and that its harder to find the good shit(its out there), you also have so much of every form of entertainment that the novelty of said entertainment becomes less.
Where we used to try to get a lot of certain things, now the art of being happy is trying to cut down on certain things.

>>713556291 (OP)
Soul is as available as it ever was but people get more easily tricked into consuming soulless shit.

Bros I have an MFT camera, an Em1-III, and I like it, but should I trade it in for a full frame? I want to take beautiful low/no light shots, some astro, and a general "take anywhere" camera

>>713559608
Alternatively you could use sodium vapor lamps, and have glasses that block out their very specific wavelength when you want to look at the sky
This filters exist and were used in the past with telescopes to look through light pollution.

>>713596476
modern full frame cameras are objectively superior to m43 in every way afaik. but they are obviously much bigger and heavier when all attachments are added.

>>713556291 (OP)
>>713556424
>>713556506
White lights are being used now because it reduces the risk of accidents by keeping drivers more awake.

>>713585461
They have so many characters in them they look like Russian plates or something.

>>713556942
>corrupted soul due to corrupt government procurement

>>713556506
all of this just for graph to go up

>>713587213
>Everything was just yellow and black.
Much like my taste in women.

>>713556291 (OP)
???

>>713578291
>retard who had his brain fried by memes and sarcasm can't understand simple things
great

>>713583160
I have a feeling that some of these statistics might change if people e.g. sought out predators instead of doctors.
I also feel like it would change if the American healthcare system wasn't broken and doctors were allowed to take their time and prescribe proper treatment

>>713596476
switch to film

>>713569917
A single line break
doesn't work on reddit
so they are used to

double them.

>>713587583
>That made it worth living
Yes, exploitation.

>>713586410
They'll tell you race isn't real since they actually finished high school biology.

>>713581749
>The guy will take what land he can
All of it?

>Put a fence around it
He controls all of it. So... I guess a barrier around the planet?

>Force you to go conquer territory
He controls everything. So that would be the moon

>>713594765
Humanity will do just fine. Your inflated sense of self worth doesn't change reality.

>>713556506
tvke...

bottom is better if you drive for fun at night and if you disagree then you probably don't own a car or drive a pos kek

>>713592050
Are you homeless?

in my dreams I still see sodium arc lamps...