Thread 713609824

>Posting from burner. I worked briefly with localization QA for external devs supporting Capcom Osaka. This is from Q1 roadmap briefings and team sync decks, including rough English drafts of internal marketing language. Not a troll. Some stuff might change, especially names.

Tentative title: Dragon’s Dogma 2: The Riftwalker

Expansion to Dragon’s Dogma 2, more of a standalone expansion in scale like Bloodborne Old Hunters or DDDA but with new map and systems

New land: “Mournveld” – highlands with underground tomb-cities and giant's keeps. Artworks aldo show a palace in state of decay, and then a ballroom with creepy mannequins.

New vocations include: “Gravedancer” (uses scythe + necromantic rites to summon spirits and wraiths) and "Warden" (uses flails and magic greatshields that get buffed by storing elemental damage and then using it).

There's a new randomized endgame mode called the Veil as well as an Hard mode.

Purification and Rarifying mechanics return with a new Relic system for gear upgrades

Upgrading weapons and armor can unlock randomized effects like elemental buffs, stat boosts, and unique passives

Players use Purification to cleanse cursed relics in these dungeons, unlocking effects or risking negative drawbacks

Internal target: Q4 2025

0/10, beyond fake and gay

Game is still shit because of the skill loadout nerf

>>713609824 (OP)
Keep dreaming.

i literally know someone who works at capcom and this is fake.

my uncle works at common sense ltd and he's told me that this is bullshit

>>713609824 (OP)
fake news

>>713609969
>>713610021
>>713610075
>>713612236
>>713612339
>>713612457
I just asked my dog and he said it's real
get fucked lmao

>>713609824 (OP)
Bullshit but i'll belive. I'm starving for more DD2.

Could've been more believable. I expect at the very least a GIF overlay frame after the amazing PNG content!

>DD3 announced
>It's just DD2 again
>Beat NG+
>It just changes the 2 on the title screen to 3

>>713610021
This is the reason I didn't even bother to try it.

>>713609824 (OP)
24 vocations! This time for sure!

>>713612770
This.
I also asked my dog and he said it's going to be EGS exclusive.

Anoter one of these leaks/

>>713609824 (OP)
threadly reminder that people unironically defended this

>>713613613
You made the same thread yesterday and no one was buying it then. It's over, dogmabros. It's over.

>>713609824 (OP)
just as true as the early dd2 leaks kek

>>713613997
>It's over, dogmabros. It's over.
I refuse to believe Capcom is this incompetent as to let a cash cow simply wither away and die.

SOULDS LEGIT
DOGMA IS BACK BROTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>713614427
they haven't released a new dmc in over 6 years despite dmc5 being the best selling one and a sucess on all fronts. All they did was add some half baked dlc almost 3 years after the game released and nothing else. Capcom only cares about monster hunter, resident evil and street fighter.

>>713609824 (OP)
They're gonna announce it tomorrow at the showcase.

>>713609824 (OP)
nice, can’t wait. DD2 is a blast and more blast is always a blast:

stop with this shit already

>>713609824 (OP)
I choose to believe this.
A man chooses, a slave obeys.

>>713613749
Actually they're adding another one so with all the combinations that brings us to a whopping 48 vocations ! BLASTBROS ASSEMBLE RETVRN TO FORM

>>713609974
Debunked since day 1 that there is no skill loadout nerf

>>713617391
Fake

>>713609824 (OP)
niiiiiiiceeeee letssss gooooo! love me some DD2.

>>713609824 (OP)
I want to believe

>>713609824 (OP)
>making an expansion the scale of Old Hunters, for a game that has under 1000 players a year after release and has had basically no updates in 6 months and still sits at mixed reviews. Fans were dissapointed, new comers moved on.
Stop. Its not happening. Capcom never had interest in DD and the only person pulling for more of it left after the game came out.

>>713609824 (OP)
If this bullshit has any truth to it than this post will end in a 5. If not then it’s off to the shadow realm with you

>>713613958
the pre-release cope with all the potential class branches was very funny though

branded frasier

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/713564732

What's wrong OP, did you not get enough bites the last time you posted this? Are you hoping someone posts it to reddit and then some grifter makes a youtube video out of it even though they know its BS? Is that what's going on here?

SAD!

>capcom showcase tommorow shows what games they are doing
>no mention of Dragons Dogma
Its actually kindof wild how they just drop DD and ran, they didnt even bother to try and sell costumes or something. Even Exoprimal had DLC.

>>713627276
Anon, they can still drop a trailer for it. Those are just the shit that are getting focused segments.

Remember: Title Update 2 for Wilds is being revealed in this event. So I imagine SF6/RE9/Prag will all have 10-15 min segments of a similar size to the MH Title Update vids.

They can drop a little trailer for DLC without doing a big chat with directors and talking about roadmaps and shit.

>>713609824 (OP)
I choose to believe.

>>713609824 (OP)
Source:

>>713614778
The anime didn't save DMC until this year, expect a new game in 2027

>>713609824 (OP)
With RE9, Pragmata, Onimusha and the Wilds expansion, something tells me they don't have time for this.

>>713609824 (OP)
>couldn't even bother to make a fake blurry screenshot
your 'leak' is lazier than DD2 was.

>>713629571
exactly, the netflix anime was the rejuvenation this franchise needed, we got a serious story with a lot of depth and the next game will surely follow that formula.

The mask "leak" and Dragon Princess "leak" were fake so it's safe to assume this one is fake as well.

Im going to take the bait or the bullshit
do you know naything about dmc 6?

>>713628965
Sure, Im coping too, but if the expansion doesnt realease this year its not happening. So I dont believe they would just squeeze a trailer for something that major in between the cracks of a showcase event highlighting everything coming next year, there would be no place to release the expansion next year.

>>713630268
All I know is that Adi Shankar is involved because of the success of the anime.

>>713609824 (OP)
DD2 is done, let it go
Maybe they'll dig it up and make another sequel in another 10 years

>>713613958
A dev team that actually cared would've filled in those 5 missing vocations post launch as free content updates, considering they charged premium AAA pricing at launch for a game with fuck all in it. If they had done that and then announced a paid DLC, the games perception would be a lot better with more people happily willing to buy a potential expansion DLC.

What 5 vocations would you fill in the blanks with? It needs 1 base, 3 advanced and 1 hybrid, just ignore the dumb trickster colour scheme and the fact that trickster doesn't really mesh with anything that could come from thief line

>Greatbow (archer advanced)
>Berserker (thief advanced, dual wields axes)
>Tamer (new base, call beasts to fight by your side)
>Necromancer (tamer advanced)
>Skirmisher (archer/thief hybrid, mix of melee & ranged with throwing spears/javelins)

>>713609824 (OP)
I WANT TO BELIEVE

>>713630458
I do agree this is the closing window. But this fall/winter looks skimpy so there's certainly room.

They wouldn't have pushed all those minor technical updates if Dogma 2 was mothballed.

>>713609824 (OP)
Dont give that HOPE, I dont want it.

>>713630229
>date: 2024
Remember when the DLC was called Dragon Princess. man, people so desperately want DD to be something, I feel it but jesus, the speculation makes for dissapointment for not getting something that was never on the cards.

DD2 is a complete game, the director of the game quit shortly after the game came out, and the company had no intention of making this game in the first place, as highlighted by the fact that they didnt even try to put microtransactions into the game. They just rung their hands and moved back to Monster Hunter, Resident Evil and Streetfighter immediately.

>>713610021
This shit was the dumbest pipedream speculation, going off of a complete misunderstanding of the vocation design.

>a whole month
>one (1) hire
>didn't give a thumbs up/heart
It's over bros..

and it will still be unplayable for 80% of PCs. I dont care. I hope Capcom's offices get hit by an earthquake.

>>713630735
I feel like thats the skeleton crew working towards a final patch, never forget the state the game launched in. It didnt even have "new game" on the main menu and they had to patch in the armour on the cover of the game. They are just plugging the holes on the ship before putting it in storage it seems, rather than preparing it for another voyage.

Im happy to be wrong, but I think DD is actually dead now.

just a few hours ago you troons claimed that /v/ never defended dragon's slopma 2
die troons

There isn't going to be a DLC and there's been so few updates because the few devs that weren't shifted over to Wilds have been working around the clock to try and get the damn game working on switch 2.

THE DLC LEAK IS REAL TO ME

>>713630865
>recently got into Darktide again
>All settings max
>120fps
>cant even keep consistent 50 on DD2 and refunded Monster Hunter Wilds because of the performance
>theres way more happening in Darktide with the lighting and amount of shit happening yet it runs smooth as silk
What the fuck is the RE engine, and why is Capcom allergic to loading screens, that shit would fix a lot of the problems of the games using this engine.
>but we need to render the idle NPCs with no dialogue from across teh map behind a wall inside a house
What the fuck are you doing Capcom.

>>713630929
>I feel like thats the skeleton crew working towards a final patch
Nonsense. They wouldn't do that.
>It didnt even have "new game" on the main menu
This was funny
>and they had to patch in the armour on the cover of the game
This was you guys being autistic retards. That amor was meant to represent a variaty of varied armors. It was meant to be a composite and spergs sperged. It's nice they added it but spazzing over the lack of it was -retarded-.
> They are just plugging the holes on the ship before putting it in storage it seems
Nonsense. They weren't fixing major bugs, they were smoothing performance and shit. Likely pushing fixes they made in DLC development to the main build out of a sense of courtesy and customer relations.

>>713609824 (OP)
>There's a new randomized endgame mode called the Veil as well as an Hard mode.
>Purification and Rarifying mechanics return with a new Relic system for gear upgrades
>Upgrading weapons and armor can unlock randomized effects like elemental buffs, stat boosts, and unique passives
>Players use Purification to cleanse cursed relics in these dungeons, unlocking effects or risking negative drawbacks
This is basically the wishlist of everyone who thought DD2 was lacking.

>Internal target: Q4 2025
But that's how you know it's fake.

>>713631358
Darktide does not run smooth as silk, post your frametime when any explosive goes off

>>713631476
Yeah no way Capcom would want a major release to fill the space in Q4 they currently have. Nope. No way.

capcom are so damn lazy. Shit enemy variety, low vocation count + trickster is garbage and warfarer barely even counts as a vocation, low number of skills per vocation, and they didn't even bother to patch in a hard mode or NG+ scaling... and that'll be $70+tip thx.

The core combat is great, but it's like they put absolutely zero effort into making rest of the game that's supposed to go along with the combat.

https://www.capcom-games.com/showcase/spotlight/en-us/

The page for tomorrow's showcase only lists Pragmata, SF6, RE9, and Wilds. Has Capcom ever shown a game in one of these showcases that was not advertised ahead of time?

>>713631662
It's unrealistic because, to properly pull off that update, they would have to have been working on it since before DD2 release. You have no idea what those 4 bullet points, completely ignoring the new world space, mean in terms of workload. It's basically a new game.

I want to believe so bad...

>>713609824 (OP)
>Posting from burner
Better ditch it quick before the Capcops backtrace you

>>713631979
>You have no idea what those 4 bullet points, completely ignoring the new world space, mean in terms of workload. It's basically a new game.
No it's not lol. One new region and a fucking randomized proeducal dungeon isn't that much work at all. Build 15 rooms, make some variants of those 15 rooms and populate it with monsters. EZ. One new region would also be easy, they made like 3 for the base game.

>>713632287
maybe he got a different burner from the last time you made the exact same post >>713626752

Fake leak makers aren't sending their best.

>>713627276
>No DD2 expansion despite the game being over a year old
>But I get Code Vein 2
It's an abstract kind of feeling

>>713632446
>Build 15 rooms, make some variants of those 15 rooms and populate it with monsters.
That's why i said TO PROPERLY PULL OFF THAT UPDATE and not half ass it. Proc gen'ing one dungeon for a game of the size(systems, items, mechanics, characters, monsters) of DD2 would be it's own expansion. Even just 15 rooms would mean you'd have, to have any variety, make at least 3 or 4 variations of each room. It's just not possible without Capcom fully committing to the project which they can't because they have like 3(not sure) projects in full development right now.

>>713631369
>That amor was meant to represent a variaty of varied armors.
It was an armour in the game files that had no spawn, so the patch dropped it at the dragonsblood vendor, but it was actually in the game files. People modded it in before it was even acquireable, they just couldnt get it in game because it wasnt dropped in any chests or rewards etc, an in DD2 every equipable is tied to a limited list of IDs. There are infact a lot of armours like this, like the one you wear in the flashback where you fight the dragon for the first time? Pic related. Thats an armour in the game and its the only time you see it, theres no guards wearing it or anything, its just in this flashback, so they didnt add it to the ID table and into chests/vendors, so you never see it again.

All the clothes the NPCs wear are items in the game files that are equipable, if Capcom wanted they could drop all of them at a vendor and they would all be functional if they are given unique IDs instead of requiring you replace an existing armours ID to see it.

>>713631476
>This is basically the wishlist of everyone who thought DD2 was lacking.
They thought it was lacking fucking gacha-mechanics?
Now I'm glad this is all we got.

>>713609824 (OP)
Whoa... 2 (T W O) new vocations!?

Just bring back Dragon's Dogma online and make it worldwide

Dragon's Dogma 2 is garbage, there's no point in trying to save it

>>713633429
But DDO sucks anon, the fucking grind is insane. Take the casting mechanics and classes and drop them on an expansion for 2. The last thing I want from DD is a fucking gear treadmill and grinding, there are lots of games like this, this isnt why I liked DD.

Shit, play Black Desert Online Crimson Desert, you might actually like it if you like that. Its action combat, but grinding boar asses in a field like every MMO.

>>713633261
>They thought it was lacking fucking gacha-mechanics?

It would add some replayability. Unless you just absolutely love, for whatever reason, making new characters and playing the same game over and over there is just nothing to do for a character that finished the game once. No new gear, no new monsters, no new locations. NG+ is just a victory lap for your powered up character.

>>713633163
I still think they planned on making a load of those NPC only armours/clothing wearable by the player/pawns, but sold as MTX/mini-dlc packs post-launch despite them all already being done and in the game files They did the same with DD1 prior to DA releasing.

I think they planned on doing that again, but the backlash to the already existing MTX scared them off. Maybe if they do actually do a DLC expansion, some of them will be made usable in that since it's all stuff already done and ready to go.

>>713633607
Just get the wallet out, it's easy

Blasthavers, we won.

>>713633656
Yeah I think a mix of fixed + semi-random loot (from a curated lootlist) would be best for a game like DD2. So make some loot static in a few places, while most rewards would come from a lootlist/table just like DD1. The loot variation reduces predictability and improves replayability in this kind of game IMO.

>>713633390
If it was up to me there would be 4 radically different vocations. Warrior(heavy armor, sword/board, two handed), Rogue(medium armor, short weapon/board, two short weapons), Archer(light armor, two short weapons, bows) and Healer/Controller(light armor, magic protections, staves) and they each have 3 sub specializations that make them extremely good at one thing but shit at everything else.

>>713633656
Oh yeah bro they should make procedurally generated dungeons and give it extraction-mechanics. Now that's the real spirit of the dogma of dragons too.

>>713634336
>The loot variation reduces predictability and improves replayability in this kind of game IMO.

When you can buy every piece of gear from a vendor the whole idea of defeating a boss for a reward kinda goes out the window.

>>713634635
indeed, which is why a loot overhaul needs the vendor content to be cut down to just the basics with most of that gear being added to the world as loot rewards for exploration.

Mods have already done this, capcom are just lazy devs.

beastren were the only good thing about this game

>>713635079
>didnt give them tails
I liked it, but it was low effort. Like the whole game, like, if someone really cared, I think this wouldve been a better game. I just hope DD isnt dead because of their lack of ambition.

>>713635079
The Khajiit must go and stay go.

>>713635079
Beastren were objectively a waste of development time.

>No Dwarfs
>AGAIN
Seriously why every Dragon's Dogma die before they add Dwarfs?

>>713634626
>give it extraction-mechanics
Basically BBI. You pick up random gear tokens that you have to purify before you can use and if you die you loot different tokens or no tokens at all.

DLC is not coming, forget it. CRAPCOM doesn't give a single flying fuck about this game.

>>713635775
there was 2 dwarfs in the game but yeah low effort as fuck. If they make a DLC, they could make an underground Moria style environment as the dwarven homeland, would be perfect for a BBI style dungeon.

>>713636193
Please don't say such hurtful things.

>>713609824 (OP)
No one's going to believe you agter the mask shit.

>>713609824 (OP)
ain't falling for this shit again

i farted bigly

>>713609824 (OP)
Manager here Frank I told you not to post this shit please come to the milking room for your re education

>>713609824 (OP)
Media won't convince me these games are good anymore, I'm still pretty burned out with Dragon's Dogma 2.

>all those Arisens believin'
Prepare to get brined.

>>713627276
I now believe all the Itsuno vs Tsujimoto posting amd now that Itsuno's gone, I think management wants to forget his pet project.

>>713638447
Ryozo Tsujimoto stole the idea of Monster Hunter from Itsuno. As far back as the early 2000's Itsuno talked about his idea of wanting to make a fantasy ARPG. Notice how MH and DD both share similar DNA with how they're about going on journeys to fight big monsters. It's why Tsujimoto has made nothing of note since.

>>713631476
BBI gacha was far and away the worst part of DDDA.