Thread 713615142

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2730810/EVERYBODYS_GOLF_HOT_SHOTS/

Hot Shots Golf is now AI slop...

Texture generation is definitely one of the better uses of AI. I couldn't fault anybody for using it.

ok speedtree employee

>>713615142 (OP)
This might seem innocuous but if you let just a tiny bit of AI slide, you'll open the floodgates for a full tide of slop. Boycott any and all genAI.

Even AI jeets should probably be asking why the company’s wasting time and energy on generating new garbage textures instead of just using the same fucking ones they no doubt have for the other games the studio produces. Why don’t these companies have “banks” of generic environment textures to reuse when needed? It’s likely because they’re getting benefits on the side for using some cryptobro’s latest AI model.

I figured most development studios would have a library of generic assets for this sort of purpose.

>>713615142 (OP)
:(
*sniffles*
love me hot shots

>>713615142 (OP)
And this will make no difference on the final product

>>713615624
Those require a license to use.

>>713615534
Seethe code monkey your comfy work from home job is over

>>713615534
had the industry only taken this stance regarding LGBT+ before it was too late...

>>713615142 (OP)
This is maybe the thing that baffles me most about ai shit, devs that barely use it but then cut one tiny corner with it that couldn't possibly be saving more money than it will lose them.
if you're gonna cheap out cheap out on more, you won't lose any more buyers than just cheaping out on leaves will

>>713615534
>but if you let just a tiny bit of AI slide, you'll open the floodgates for a full tide of slop
Bro AAA's have been using AI for stock textures for years

>>713615142 (OP)
Complaining about this is actually like complaining that production lines use robots nowadays.

>>713615675
Not if you pay someone ONCE to make them and then you hold the rights to them forever. This is just going from being a retard who rents the same Blockbuster video every week to paying someone to pirate the same copy of the video every new time you want to watch it. At that point just buy the fucking video.

I never asked for this

>>713615142 (OP)
But the characters looked so sexy..
If it's only AI generated backgrounds then it's nothing to get way too alarmed about.

>>713615534
No I won't. Who gives a shit.

>>713615569
If they’re outsourcing them sometimes there’s clauses preventing them from using them on other projects.

Good. AI is based and the future of game design

>>713615142 (OP)
Asset creation is one of the more time consuming parts of making vidya so this is understandable. Allows people who aren't artists to make something decent looking without having to deal with hiring an artist.
Human made models and textures will still generally be better but this is s fine niche to fill

It’s not hard to create low poly leaf textures. If they can’t be fucked doing the most basic thing then the whole game probably sucks

it looks like a disgusting shovelware wii game so that checks out

Funny how humans will spreg out about AI, yet it controls every facet of our lives. It listens to us, it knows what to sells us, we argue with it online. You might as well give up now and embrace reality.

>>713615142 (OP)
fastest way to guarantee i'm not going to buy something

>>713615534
You can't stop progress. AI is the future, Pandora's Box is open and there is NO closing it.
You have already lost.

>>713615734
>LGBT+
It was always there even if you didn't notice.

>>713615142 (OP)
No warries m8 just give me a mulligan next hole and it's water under the bridge

>>713616432
AI was always there by that logic

>>713615142 (OP)
I genuinely don't care.
But also. Why even? Is it even easier to generate the textures than to just use some of the myriad of stock or royalty free textures around?

Golf is better with motion control

i quite literally could not care less. hope my favorite studios embrace it so they can give me my sloppa faster

>>713615624
These guys have literally made dozens of golf games across multiple generations, even the character model in the screenshot is the same as it was in the switch version, they have an archive of all the tree and leaf textures a dev could ever ask for. No doubt what this is actually about is cost cutting, they probably lost a lot of staff and resources after getting dropped by Sony, you know this shit's on a shoestring budget when they need to skimp this much.

>>713615142 (OP)
AI bros can't stop winning!!!

>>713615534
This is never going to happen and the more you fight AI the more you're going to be a technologically clueless retard like boomers that refused to learn how to use the internet.

You're the boomer right now. The new generation isn't going to hate AI, it's new and exciting and they can get good at it and make cool shit. You're either going to be one of the people that also get good at AI, or you're going to be one of the people screaming and shitting when they get replaced with AI.

>>713615534
>new thing: BAD

>>713615142 (OP)
>releasing on same day as daemon x machina sequel
>and borderlands4 releases a couple of days later
was going to get a switch 2 but glad I didnt yet so i can get all these games for september

>>713615142 (OP)
Oh no, think of all the trans game artists who they could have hired instead.
what a shame.

>>713617640
>daemon x machina sequel
Huh, I figured it would have bombed. I remember dropping it in like 15 seconds because the FOV was too low, I wonder if that was fixed or if the game is good.

AI won

the price better reflect the usage of AI.
$30 max or dead on arrival

>>713615142 (OP)
perfect use case for AI. what artists would want to create mundane stuff like tree bark and leaves?

>>713617932
it's $40

>>713617640
It's anime golf nigga this wasn't gonna to get huge twitch numbers anyway
>i don't care-
You clearly do if you're doom posting over the choice of release date.

>>713617959
>what artists would want to create mundane stuff
autistic trannies that spend 7 hours making a 128x128 bark texture

NOOOOO YOU CAN'T LET AI DO WORK FOR A MENIAL AND LABOUR INTENSIVE TASK THAT NOBODY WILL NOTICE OR CARE ABOUT IN THE END PRODUCT

>>713618180
but countless royalty-free libraries already exist for this shit

this seems like they had to check off a box to make corporate happy

>>713615534
>using photographs of leaves - GOOD
>using ai art of leaves that look the same - BAD
Retard. This is literally the type of shit AI is perfect for. Instead of using the same shitty texture cd album from the 90s now you can make unique realistic textures ez pz. It's not like anybody makes this from hand.

Honestly they shouldn't have even added that footnote. Nobody would have noticed. I guess they were afraid of bot detection and legal issues.

>b-but my slippery slope
shut up

>>713615142 (OP)
Ok, and?

>>713615534
worth it for the seethe it generates in VA's and Artists personally.
art is for everyone and AI makes it more accessible than ever to make your own games.

>>713618274
>Scour through hundreds of texture files on dozens of websites looking for the right kind of leaf
or
>"Generate [x] leaf with [y] shape"

Woaw I wonder why they did the latter

>>713618402
you have to specify if you're using ai in your game on steam

>>713615569
What is infuriating is that they do all just use the Megascans bank now, but it gets packaged with each game. Meaning every game now is 100gb, even though they all share assets. It would be really cool if you had a central repository so you didn't need multiple copies of the same asset.

>>713615534
I use AI though

>>713615142 (OP)
>use AI for grass and trees
>avoids obviously copy pasted trees and tiling on grass because you can generate infinite amount of slightly different textures
smart but probably not used that way

>>713617000
This isn't Claphanz retard. This is Bandai Namco.

>>713618029
dead
I ain't paying $40 for an AI golf game

>>713618640
AI is bad for you though

>>713618502
I'm solo deving and ai is kind of shit for the things people seethe about.
I do have a cool ai tool that solves my meshes though, it's more or less the same as the scripts people have been using for years but it adds context so there's much less to fiddle around with and fine tune after running it

>>713615142 (OP)
FUCK YOU PAY ME
PAY ME RIGHT NOW TO CREATE MUNDANE TREE AND LEAF TEXTURES
PAY ME I DON'T WANT TO DO ACTUAL WORK PLEASE GOD SOME ONE GIVE ME MONEY

>>713615534
it's already too late. it's like horse armor. the only way to have it not happen is to never invent it. I give it....2 years before a GOTY has significant AI use in it and no one cares.

>>713618830
>I'm solo deving and ai is kind of shit for the things people seethe about.
literal skill issue
post your best AI work

>>713615142 (OP)
NOOOOO, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO PAY THE TREES WHAT THEY'RE FUCKING WORTH

>>713615142 (OP)
Making textures was one of the very first methods available when Stable Diffusion came out. I remember using the janky Blender plugin.

Also, how is this different really from devs buying CD packs of photos and using those in the past? You don't think they drew every brick, do you?

PAY ME
PAY ME
PAY ME
PAY ME
PAY ME
LEAF TEXTURES THAT NOBODY IS GOING TO CARE ABOUT
PPAAAAYYYYY MEEEEE

>>713615142 (OP)
Why the fuck would you even need to use AI for that? That's fucking stupid.

>>713619539
profit driven retards that don't care about drawing as a hobby.
good riddance

We finally have a release date? I wish it came out sooner there's too much stuff at the tail end of this year

>>713619565
Probably just for textures.
All honestly, best way to use AI. Who gives a fuck about textures besides autistic troonies.

>>713615142 (OP)
That's not heartbreaking, OR news. That's just a bunch of boring words put one in front of another.

>>713619679
PAY
ARTISTS

>>713615142 (OP)
Hot shot textures look the same, they could have just reproduced the same looking shit they've always done.

>>713619745
No.

>>713615142 (OP)
>Needing AI slop
>for grass and FUCKING LEAFS
WHY?

>>713619679
The devs themselves could have made enough texture varations for trees and leaves in a day without needing to waste time fucking around with AI.

Game looks good though

>golf hot shotas
Why though

And yet it doesn't have AI-generated panties
Or any at all!

>>713620035
It's like a retard inventing a robot to boil eggs

>>713615142 (OP)
>needing AI to generate one thing that takes 10 seconds to slap together from stock results with a clone brush
>in a game that looks like it could be on the wii
>then needing to disclose it like anyone was ever gonna find out about one random background texture
What a fascinating series of decisions.

>>713615142 (OP)
snoyjeets on suicide watch

>>713620119
>A day
You don't draw much do you?

>>713620583
Oh yeah, it IS a Sony IP!

>Bananza uses AI guise!!!!!1111
>Hard cut to this
The world hates snoys and I'm all for it.

Everyone here needs to buy the Front Mission 3 remake to support AI. The use of AI in this game is beautiful.

>>713621584
>>713621508
disgusting

>>713621508
>>713621584
>>713621671
>bluesky filenames
This is worth it just to see you squeal, pedotranny. Dilate.

My favorite part of anti-ai fags is posting old images and seeing how they react to the mistakes.

>>713615534
The Big Beautiful Bill contains 10 years of legal protections for AI. Absolutely stupid to contain that, not just because of the "wah you're stealing our work and replacing us" thing but becasue that means they're protecting malicious and unintended misinfo that will shape how people view issues and vote. It's damaging at every level, but this administration aims to protects billionaires more than other administrations, mostly due to the record number of billionaires on the presidential cabinet. Obama has 1 billionaire, Biden had 0 billionaires, Trump has 13 billionaires, excluding Musk and what he already did.

>>713615142 (OP)
Who cares

>>713621671
>bunch of cars all facing in different directions
Classic ai kino

>>713621927
Careful anon. That's a dangerous amount of salt.

>>713621927
MIGA!

Why defend it? If this stuff keeps being controversial, less games will opt to use it (for a little while, anyway).

IS THAT A FUCKING AI GENERATED BITMAP??? WHAT THE FUCK???

>>713622234
Time to reinstall RAKACTAENN for the 14th time

>>713622392
The government protecting AI for 10 years is actually substantial.

>>713622778
This has more to do with silicone valley and finance interest that was slush funded to appoint Vance as VP. Israel may want AI protected so propaganda and misinfo that favors them can flood boomer social media.

It just keeps happening.

>>713622885
>Why defend it? If this stuff keeps being controversial, less games will opt to use it

>why pay someone a living wage when i can pay 100 bucks for an AI to do something

i wonder

to be fair, leaf textures had to be at least 87% of their budget so theyre actually saving a lot of development money here

>>713623285
A timelapse is not really a proof by itself. Seen a lot of this shit. It just looks very unnatural.

>>713623790
>hands bad
it just looks like shit, which isnt exclusive to ai

>Gamers: Complain about games being $80
>Devs: "Ok, we'll cut some costs to keep prices down :)"
>Gamers: "NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT"

>NOOO THEY'RE USING A COMPUTER TO AUTO GENERATE AN IMAGE THAT WASN'T HAND PAINTED BY AN ARTIST THAT HAS LITERALLY NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!!
>Meanwhile, in 1998

>>713623790
Then it doesn't matter

>>713623937
What is the price? Also cost cutting through AI usage should be happening at a larger scale if that's truly the case. It's like how available technology can actually increase costs; what was once just a follow call for your doctor is now a "visit" with tele health which costs you out of pocket, lengthens the time of the call, and has them billing your insurance and also limits scheduling since you can only see one doctor a day.

>>713615142 (OP)
They don't call them Scamco for nothing.

>>713624336
It's $55 in Canada so much less than a full priced $89 release (I think that's what AAA costs here I don't buy them)

>>713623285
>zoomers think mixed digital drawing means AI

>>713624518
With in game purchases? That is cool that it's on the cheap side, but ultimately leaf textures don't have to look like they were taken from a pool of data trained on the work of others.

>>713615142 (OP)
Thanks for the heads up anon, I will now pirate your game. If you didn't put in the effort, you shouldn't expect me to pay full price. Simple as.

>>713624565
Here I thought artists didn't get stressed enough for their mistakes.
Its funny, it wasn't that long ago when artists joked about being bad at hands.

>>713615142 (OP)
I will now consider buying your game

>>713615142 (OP)
don't care, already pre-ordered and can't wait to have more fun with my wife!

>>713624565
the artist just sucks at lines despite trying to rush the shit out of them (presumably for self-imposed comm deadlines)
though it takes another artist to understand the difference between an artist's bad lines and AI's bad lines. i kinda just wish that people stopped focusing on the hand thing specifically now, there's so many other incredibly obvious signs these days

>>713623285
>>713624565
Nowadays, a pattern I see emerging is that artists and vehemently anti AI people seem to be worse than the average person at being able to differentiate AI art from regular art. Seems like some sort of cosmic irony at play.

>>713616572
No fag.
Having a gay or anything doesn´t make it alphabet fiendly. Its allways the politicall bbullshit that makes it lgbt
Example: Emil in Nier.

>>713625006
only genuinely bad artists fail to see AI signs because they're just fundamentally unskilled and don't have enough experience with other people's work to tell the difference, so no big loss there.
radical paranoia is always ripe ground for false-positives though, see facebook tranny hunters

>>713621927
>Biden had 0 billionaires
lmao, Reps get next to no money compared to Dems every election but still win most of the time

>>713615675
Given that major companies are already suing AI Gen companies, and that there's already a bunch of copyright concerns surrounding AI in the USA, I feel like just paying the license for a damn leaf texture is the safer bet.
Or shit, go into MSPaint and make a pixel leaf texture. Call it the game's "Artstyle". Then it's totally free forever, no possibilities for problems.
But no, gotta save that .00000000001% of your budget, who cares about the future!

>>713624706
>If you didn't put in the effort,
they put effort where it actually deserved and was needed though.

>>713625308
You mean Disney sued the only AI company they can get away with?
Really fighting for that cause.

>>713615142 (OP)
Sony doesn't own the series anymore?

>>713625178
Dems have been getting more money because the Republican supported, dem opposed Citizens United resulted in unlimited campaign money and dems are like the ones you bribe to get your way because they're expected to seek regulations and policy that protects workers and consumers at the expense of billionaires. Republicans already want small government, they're expected to be anti-regulation, pro-free market Reaganites.

All of that is to say is that there's a huge difference between Biden's cabinet that put restrictions on overdraft fees and Trump's second term billionaire cabinet that removed those restrictions on the first 100 days.

Remember to check the credits when the game comes out to see who's actually responsible for this, if you know what I mean.

The AI lawsuits are genuinely annoying and it's because judges are fucking retarded. Look up Ghetty v Stability.
>There was no definitive list of the copyright works that had been used to train Stable Diffusion and the defendant had only made limited admissions to the effect that “at least some” had been used.
>The court rejected the claimant's argument that this was in fact a matter within the defendant’s own knowledge.

>Mr Stability AI does your LLM use copyrighted material in its training data
>I dunno lol maybe a little
>Well alright if you don't know then I'm sure it's no big deal case dismissed lol

>>713625006
internet being filled with dumb zoomers with no life experience. i dont think they can fathom inconsistencies being a human trait regardless of its exposure or monetary value

>>713625919
one of the many reasons why AI judges can't come soon enough

>>713615142 (OP)
Better than using jeets

>>713626174
Remember that judge in Texas that put that comic book store owner on the sex offender registry because his store was in a school zone
LAND OF THE FREE

>>713625919
That's scary because it lays the groundwork for AI to be used to absolve the users from responsibility. The chain of command in corporations often exists to create layers of ignorance to shield leadership, having AI get info from "lol I dunno" means that as long as the copying and plagiarism is proved to be unintended, it can pass. That may be the way out, disclaiming that it's all plagiarism, it's all theft, means it can never be user commercially.

>>713625919
Trying to find the source off AI is pretty impossible anyway.
How the fuck would you even find out someone wrote in fucking AI? Even the most generic and safest of writing can come off as AI even when done by human hands.

>>713626124
SOUL
Artwork back then did have a lot more mistakes but they're a bunch of tools for artists now to avoid them like 3D posing programs.

>>713626318
According to the defendant, Stability AI used "At least some".
"At least some" is an amount that has no ceiling.
This was definitely yet another case in the US where the fossil of a judge didn't know anything about the case he was presiding over.

>>713626465
It's also a lot of "BUT IT'S MY STYLE" from people who had the balls to self publish in high school even though they look to have graduated from the school of How 2 Draw: Manga.

Be thankful they're even open about saying they use it and what specifically it was used for. If everyone did that I'd see no problems with ai in art.

>>713626465
true - but posing references in a corner stone. there has always been an idea to use a photo of someone, or refer to a book

although the worst thing to come out of modern referencing is people constantly drawing the ring lighting in their reflections

>>713626616
>5 examples in a pool of 10+ million
judge was right not letting it move forward

>>713626857
Oh it's 5 examples?
How do you know that?

>>713615534
Hypothetically I could agree with you but the gates are already open buddy

>>713615142 (OP)
Picked up

>>713626828
Super Pose Books are terrific references but very difficult to get scans of that are high quality, and importing them now is a bitch.
I wish I had bought them before the shipping cost went sky high.

>>713615142 (OP)
>[Heartbreaking News]
Kill youself negro. This board is full e/acc.
We need to accelerate.

>>713615142 (OP)
he could've commissioned a twitter artist $500 for that leaf texture!

>>713627212
Do you believe this rhetoric or are you just being a faggot

>>713619745
i hear there's a lot of new openings on construction sites that are willing to pay artists

>>713627293
why else would you be mad about a leaf texture

>>713626828
HUBBA HUBBA!

>>713627423
>People have no reasons to be upset except for a very narrow list of reasons based entirely on my worldview that's created through the lens of being terminally online

this seems like as good a thread as any based on the replies but can one of the people against please explain something for me? Why is AI art considered theft that steals from artists mouths by being fed examples of their work and then using their art style to create new work based on user prompts? I've seen people say the original artists should be compensated if their work is fed into AI for learning, but yet nobody seems to give a fuck about the mountains of fan art where people draw characters in the original creators same art style? yet nobody seems to give a fuck about doujin artists who do entire parody comics in the exact same art style as the original creators? yet nobody seems to give a fuck if I watch a free video on youtube where some person shows me how to perfectly copy some other artists style? why is it specifically only a problem when AI does it? What exactly am I missing here?

>>713627616
you're right we should just be upset about it for no reason in particular

>>713626910
>how does someone know about this public record event
how indeed

>>713615142 (OP)
Hot Shots Golf is xoming to steam, thanks for telling me anon.

>>713627293
So you're saying a leaf texture ain't worth $500?

>>713627212
Be real, $500 to handle all those tree and leaf textures would have been a steal. Surely the actual cost would have been far more than a simple commission.

>>713627654
the doujin artwork comes out once every 2 weeks and the books comes out either 1 or 2 times a year for comiket

>>713627654
Fanfiction gets the eyeball for selling their works because a crazed author got uppity about it.
But yeah every other media doesn't seem to give a shit, even nintendofags sell shit at the risk of cease & desist.

>>713627654
Because computer software isn't a person.
I know a lot of AI niggers have this problem, because the chatbots got really good overnight and now they believe in magic and have suddenly stopped being able to distinguish between software and people.

Drawing fanart isn't considered copyright infringement, however, selling fanart can be considered copyright infringement. Copyright infringement is decided on a case-by-case basis. There are a lot of factors in place, context being one of them.

>Nobody gives a fuck about doujin artists
Different countries have different copyright laws.
Japan is a weird beast where you can totally ape someone's copyrighted work for a doujin, use AI generation in that work, and all that's kosher. But the moment you livestream a visual novel? Your ass is grass. Also, better not fuckin make a game where you summon a monster by throwing something.

The reason people care about AI doing it is because they've created a piece of software that just copy and pastes, but does so in a way that fools people that would get fooled by magic tricks.

The magician isn't actually floating.

>>713615142 (OP)
2 weeks ago /v/ claimed AI would never be used in video games
now everyone is using it

>>713627654
>fan art
Not the original
>parody
Not the original
>doujins
Not the original
>copying art style
Not the original
>AI data set
Uses the original (without permission)
>Generative AI
Uses the data set that contains the original (again, without permission)

>>713625308
Copyright law is gay

>>713627654
>Why is AI art considered theft that steals from artists mouths by being fed examples of their work and then using their art style to create new work based on user prompts?
It’s the idea that AI can’t create, it can only copy the work of others, and thus it’s akin to theft. In all the other examples while yes those are basically copying the same style, it has that human input with the creativity of someone else. Meanwhile ai only knows what input you use
Don’t know why i’m explaining it though given you seem to retarded to realize the obvious, you’ll probably forget all of it anyway

>>713628183
Very jewish/communist opinion!

>>713615534
>slop, ai-made: :)
>slop, human-made: >:(

>>713628073
I copy and pasted you post anon. What'ca gonna do about it?

>>713623285
Ay, where my fellow #moots at?

>>713615534
Good. Fuck your £300 furry porn commissions.

>>713628282
Hehe, erm, isn't that just the way the human brain works?
I am very smart.
*tips fedora*

>>713628286
The opposite actually
Controlling what other people can do artistically with a fleet of lawyers is textbook jewcraft

>>713628337
This made you super mad didn't it lmao

>>713628459
>People should just be able to rip off other peoples' ideas because why do you get to own things??
Good post comrade

>>713615534
@grok
how gay is this reply on a scale of 1 to 10

>>713628561
Ideas aren't property mr goldstein

>>713628660
You realize you're arguing FOR patent theft and calling someone ELSE jewish right
You can't be this stupid, so I'm gonna call you a dishonest faggot instead

>>713618993
>FUCK YOU PAY ME
>PAY ME RIGHT NOW TO CREATE MUNDANE TREE AND LEAF TEXTURES
>PAY ME I DON'T WANT TO DO ACTUAL WORK PLEASE GOD SOME ONE GIVE ME MONEY
Were artists always this fucking annoying? I remember them being pretentious, but not this level of unhinged.

>>713628767
>patent theft
Okay nintendie, calm your pokeballs.

>>713623285
>People on social media that hate AI are directing that hate at artists because they cannot even tell the difference
It's so great being able to watch this from a distance.

>>713628767
The fuck do patents have to do with copyright? are you just retarded?

>Of course ideas have no value, goyim! You shouldn't be allowed to own those...
>I'll just be taking that then, since it clearly has no value...

>>713628337
the post is archived so technically it has been copied

>>713627654
a human copying a style will generally be imperfect and inevitably have their own style and methods mixed in, it makes sense that an algorithm specifically designed to copy the styles it's trained on with minimal effort from the prompter would draw more backlash than a person trying to ape the style

>>713625006
When you become obsessed with something, you start seeing it everywhere.

>>713615142 (OP)
will complAIners ever stop witch hunting every single textures out of games as they come out?

>>713615534
I genuinely think in 5-10 years a game with handmade textures, models, voices will be marketed as some artisanal shit. We're fucked.

>>713615142 (OP)
>Devs use AI to save money
>Consumers use piracy to save money
I'm fine with it, thanks for the free game

>>713628812
>wojack
hang yourself

>>713626828
>pose book
go back.

>>713616340
You are AI.

>>713629249
There was that one movie all done in old-style 2D that no one cared for so it's bound to happen.

>>713625919
When these have databases of several million images, how would you prove this and how would the judge review it?

>>713620119
Why would I do that when SD can generate a thousand different variations in a couple minutes?

>>713628951
>Expanding copyright law to own the corporations

>>713629567
>Ask the guy you're accusing of comitting copyright infringement if his software commits copyright infringement
>He says "Yeah a little"
>This is somehow not good enough

>>713627654
because its new tech, same way once recordings were considered theft and anti art. Im being serious, look up the late 1800s/early 1900s anti music recording campaigns

>>713629567
Give access to the database, have an image recognition software go through it
Of course those jews never will do that because they'll get BTFO

>>713629636
>No, independent goy-er, I mean, artist, you shouldn't get to own your ideas, the corporations should get to use them too!
I'm convinced I'm arguing with false flagging unironic jews in this thread

>>713625006
You're not wrong.
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/how-did-you-do-on-the-ai-art-turing

>>713629567
By making old data sets illegal and requiring new data sets to give full credit: a source list for EVERY INDIVIDUAL THING CONTAINED IN THE DATA SET. Everything MUST be accounted for, and the only way to do that is to make all previous iterations null and void (for commercial use)

>>713615534
You are fucked then, because the tech will get cheaper and cheaper, and whoever doesn't use AI in some form will get left behind. This is like saying you will boycott music recordings because all music should be live, i mean you can go ahead but its retarded to think its gonna work.

>>713627654
>What exactly am I missing here?
That AI is good at it. That's it. AI can shit out a new finished image in literal seconds so in less than a day, you can generate more art in an artist's style than that artist has produced over their entire life.
Real people cannot do that. Some artists have cracked down on imitators, even when not tracing, but those people can be directly attacked and can still only produce so much art.
As much as these artists call AI
>soulless
or
>slop
the only reason it has such an outcry against it is because it's clear that people don't actually think that way and that AI will only get better.

>>713629636
Corpos do love it when copyright laws are flexible and only meant to always favour them, God forbid individual citizens use them to protect their work.

>>713615624
If I had to guess, the textures are AI upscaled (which companies have been doing for a long time now), but they have to label it as such.

Jews love AI because normalfags will defend their ability to steal

>>713629348
Those are so goddamn awful to use.
Now you can use action figures and things like this.

>>713629637
Provide the actual decision in full and I can respond to that. Without context, I can easily see a judge not ruling based on a statement like that.

>>713617372
yes Ai is le future fellow pajeet like ntf and crypto

>>713629995
Those hands are sexy.

Taking care of miniscule stuff like this is where AI can actually find a real niche.
This is the least egregious use of AI in a full blown product I've seen. It's not like this is stealing jobs, they sure as shit aren't going to have a dedicated tree texture guy, it just frees up time for the rest of the artists.

>>713629637
Describe the nature of the alleged copyright infringement so I can laugh at your ignorance.
>>713629725
What database? Are you under the mistaken assumption that the LLM has billions of reference images stored somewhere? If so then I urge you to learn how the fuck it actually works before you try having a conversation about it.

>artist copies wind waker water texture and changes a few lines by 10%
>it's okay, totally unique
>uses AI to make same texture
>FUCKING BOYCOTT

>>713630092
The database used to store the images to train the AI you doofus

>>713629804
>requiring new data sets to give full credit: a source list for EVERY INDIVIDUAL THING CONTAINED IN THE DATA SET.
>millions of images
That would never happen and neither the opposing party or the judge would be able to properly review it to see if it's genuine.
Do you know how much courts and lawyers struggle with even basic discovery review? And you're throwing around literally millions of images like it's not even worth a second thought. Even with recognition software like what >>713629725
posted, it's not that simple when it needs to be verified and scrutinized to actually be accepted as evidence.

>>713626314
I'm old enough to remember when elevenlabs gave everyone "free" tokens to generate voice lines as long as they uploaded the voice samples and everyone rushed to make celebrity coomslop only for them to go "lol nah this shit might be illegal" and required you to verify that it's your voice they're using. No more free tokens but thanks for the training data and all that viral marketing.

>>713629348
I just use construction with perspective and draw poses from imagination

>>713626318
Its the same as Cormac McCarthy state suing you if you write a book an artsy modern western novel, so if you were inspired by McCarthy you get sued? What if you also took inspiration from The Searchers? Does the studio sue you. The issue is LLMs are like automated inspiration its just looking for patterns in human media and replicating those.

>>713630186
I guess artists need to start giving out databases of all the images they've seen

>>713626828
Thats not a real posebook, its just wank material with a thinly veiled excuse

>>713615142 (OP)
Shant be buying then, should've hired an artist instead of being a cheapskate.

The words are deafening and it speaks silently about the quality of your port.

>>713630069
>t. kira

>>713615534
tbpb
give them an inch and they take a mile

>>713630187
>That would never happen and neither this opposing part of the judge would be able to properly review it to see if it's genuine
And that's exactly the problem with generative AI even in its current form. If a hypothetical version where everything is perfectly documented isn't good enough, then what the hell do we have now?

>>713630186
There is no database, you dunce. That's the entire point I was making. It doesn't store the images long term, it trains on them, retains the training data, then the images are purged. Like I said, go learn how it works before you try to have this conversation.

>>713630371
>>713626828
Ok i just look at it again, and the way she arches her foot. I take it back, this is art.

>>713615142 (OP)
As long as it's reflected in the price of the game. I'm assuming a game of this size would be 50€, right? But since it uses AI, it should be10€ at most.

>>713615142 (OP)
When did they stop using vulgar caricature-like characters?

>>713629567
You can audit their web crawlers. And make it illegal to violate robots.txt using any web crawling tool. As it is these huge corporations are effectively offloading a large part of their budget onto smaller businesses and independent website admins.

>>713630490
>then the evidence is purged.
See, that's their problem. If they destroy the proof of being guilty then they are guilty

>>713621927
>The Big Beautiful Bill
What kind of banana republic name for a bill is this lmao

>>713630526
>I'm assuming a game of this size would be 50€, right? But since it uses AI, it should be10€ at most.

Of course not, it's a PSP port that costs $40.

is adam jensen in this one?

>>713615142 (OP)
Based. Now use it to generate courses.

>>713619013
They already do, elden shart was procedural generated by a computer, you can tell it's a low quality world full of low quality assets and fights unlike the older games like bloodborne.

People don't care.

>>713621927
Billionaires are unironically good people, they already have infinite money and don't care about making more, they only care about the future of their country and making it more competitive, and supporting and promoting AI is part of it, like it or not.

>>713630635
Guilty of what? Downloading pictures? That's not illegal, that's literally how your web bowser works. Theft? Doesn't meet the legal definition anywhere on the planet. So what exactly are you accusing them of?

>>713630672
Oh I see. I thought it was a new game entirely.
Port that's sloppily AI'd to newer platforms? Shouldn't cost any money.

>>713630858
Hey that's the same price as your mom.

>>713621671
>>713621584
>>713621508
That's fucking vandalism

>>713615142 (OP)
I'm still waiting for when gamefreak eventually uses ai because the war between gamefreak haters and gamefreak is a small indie studio apologists would be really funny to see

>>713630857
Ask Disney what they think of you downloading the mouse and making money with it, not me

>>713630829
>Billionaires are unironically good people, they already have infinite money and don't care about making more, they only care about the future of their country and making it more competitive, and supporting and promoting AI is part of it, like it or not.

Billionaires shouldn't even exist.

>>713615142 (OP)
>Playable Pacman using his kino 3d model
I will now wishlist your game. regardless of ai.

>>713630886
As long as you got a shovel then be my guest.

>>713630985
>we want to make it impossible for people to be wealthy, everyone sould be equal in misery

We know that's what your type wants, on the other hand billionaires want to uplift the citizens of their country, that's why they're the good ones.

>>713631048
oh hell yeah

>>713630974
That's not an accusation or an argument. Do you wanna provide one of either or is that your concession post?

>>713630829
Billionaires are in competition with each other, the government, and the workers and consumers as their wealth is more substantiated through profit made through shares than just extra money in the bank. They become billionaires by buying into, supporting, and controlling a system of removing value from those who work form them and buy from them and passing it on to investors and themselves. They are constantly threatened by people noticing how there's a point where more and more people lose and are worse off with that system and aim to protect it from that. The job of the aristocracy is to defend the existence of the aristocracy. They care about making more because billionaires are in the unique position to better influence and control politics to their benefit.

>their country
Billionaires don't have roots like the poor. They can more freely move and have properties globally. There's no sense of loyalty or consequence in that regard. What made you hallucinate that?

>Billionaires are unironically good people
>they have infinite money and don't care about making more
Not even giving you a (You)

>>713615264
But making textures is easy? Does it even save time seeing as they said the textures needed to be edited by humans

>>713631160
That's not what i said, at all. Billionares shouldn't exist at all. You shouldn't be able to amass wealth beyond 5 million dollars, it's insane to even think that people have those numbers in their accounts. Their mere existence is a hate letter to the people.

>>713630638
Servants of Moloch are obligated by blood pact to actively signal that they're evil.

>>713631574
>You shouldn't be able to amass wealth beyond 5 million dollars
You underage or something because a lot of businesses would go bankrupt if they didn't have more than 5 million in the bank.

>>713629995
>Those are so goddamn awful to use.
zoom zoom.

>>713631324
Billionaires needs their country to protect their assets, an American billionaire can't just decide to be Chinese and expect the US to protect them. Meanwhile the poor have no reason to be loyal to anyone, they're already destitute and would sell their family members into prostitution for a sandwich.

Being poor means you're more likely to be easily bribed on top of having no integrity, culture or education.

>>713631574
>You shouldn't be able to amass wealth beyond 5 million dollars

This is an arbitrary number that has no argument for it, you have the right to amass as much wealth as you deserve.

>>713631681
I never said anything about companies or businesses.

>>713631160
>billionaires shouldn't exist = we should all be poor
I don't think having $900,000,000 makes anyone poor.

>>713631574
Based, but it's a hard sell. There should be incentives and competition to make it to $900 million because there are global markets to play. That's where a more regulated finance industry could come into play.

>>713631767
>an American billionaire can't just decide to be Chinese and expect the US to protect them.
He can however decide to be Israeli

I refuse to pay.

>>713628073
>>713628282
>>713629036
>AI bad because muh human error and flesh brain
this argument is nonsensical. you all act as though if someone uses an AI image generator and types "goku fighting mickey mouse" it will spit out an image that is a perfect toriyama copy of goku fighting a perfect disney copy of mickey. throughout human history we have constantly worked towards making things more efficient and streamlined, why should art be different? this seems equivalent to arguing that phones shouldn't have been invented because it destroyed the livelihood of countless telegraphers.

>>713631853
That's because he always was

>>713631759
But they are. I would rather just envision the pose in my head than try to manipulate that wooden doll.

>>713631767
The poor face the consequences of disloyalty faster than the rich though. Protestors are more often punished before the rich. Musk does a nazi salute while retweeting white nationalist twitter accounts and the ADL is there to say that's fine, he probably didn't mean it.

>>713631941
you use ai i dont buy i dont give a shit what your cope is ai trannie

>>713631832
>if you have $999,999,999 plus one dollar it's suddenly wrong

Arbitrary and nonsensical.

>>713631853
Government corruption and not every billionaires' fault that government officials are easily bribed because they're usually not wealthy and/or couldn't cut it as businessmen.

>>713631805
Okay, who amassed the wealth to own these companies/business?
Do tell me, because some singular person or family needed to make a lot of money to even start.

>>713615534
We've already opened the floodgates
enjoy >20% unemployment by the 2030s lmao

>>713631961
>all billionaires are Israeli
We ain't ever gonna make it.

>>713629572
Hi, meet this guy >>713618546

>>713632126
retard

>>713615142 (OP)
>use ai on things no one will see
>no one sees
>everyone hates you because it's ai

Great job you fucking morons.

>>713615534
the floodgates are already open, you fuckwit

>>713632081
Billionaires face much more dire consequences for it since they could be at risk of losing everything. Poors have more to gain since they have little to nothing in the first place.

>>713615534
learn to mine coal

>>713615142 (OP)
If I'm going to be fair the game is on golf course in a temperate climate. So a not insignificant amount of textures are leaves and trees. However, I can not bring myself to care even a little bit. My stance is the important elements should be done by hand. background elements and assets, that is the task we can offload to AI. The same people that whine and bitch about work life balance and treating workers humanely. Are also against the tools that will make that happen. So maybe part of that means having AI do leaf textures so they can have normal 40 hour work week instead the normal 60 in game development.

>>713631941
Did telegraphers use other peoples hard work to make money without giving them anything, not even credit?
Retard.

>>713615534
>you'll open the floodgates
Anon never opened a console shop in the news tab

>>713632119
I'm just saying responding to someone who said "there shouldn't be billionaires" with "you want us all poor" as if having more millionaires once the billionaires are broken up makes people poor is really fucking stupid.

>but why stop at billionaires
Because you can calculate some other metric of condensed wealth and cost of living to break up the monopoly, buying, and political controlling ability of a wealthy individual. Billionaires are a good place to start.

>>713632269
Billionaires own the government, the president is not even a politician anymore.

>>713615142 (OP)
Sorry but please either go back and draw your own textures, or use photographs of real grass and leaves.

>>713632315
But how can youtubers make 1-hour videos analysis videos about the water in Mario Sunshine if its all AI?!

>>713631324
>They can more freely move and have properties globally.
America has some interesting tax structures that tax foreign investments, leaving the USA can be VERY expensive
t.
I've seen 100+% taxation. Only in America

>>713615142 (OP)
>>713615534
This 100%
literally what's happened before time and time again with destructive industry practices

>>713632269
You're trying to have it both ways where the poor are in dire and desperate situations but not as dire as billionaires. It's like how the value of water changes depending on the situation and context; even being a former billionaire comes with connections and assets to help you live better than middle class for the rest of your life as a worst case scenario. You're associating "dire" with money lost when there's a world of difference between a poor person losing $1,000 and a rich person losing $1,000.

>>713615142 (OP)
how many times this has to happen until they learn their lesson.. use of AI gets your project cancelled

>>713632219
It's worse than that
>Port a fully finished game
>Replace assets that no one will see with AI shit for no reason

>>713628847
God I love Pikachu, so big and fat and stupid but when you tell him to speedblitz that pidgey he does a great impression of The Quickster

>>713615534
The only thing that matters is if it looks good and works.

>>713631941
>throughout human history we have constantly worked towards making things more efficient and streamlined, why should art be different?
because then all you get is pointless drivel made by spreadsheets and focus testing rather than artists, be they skilled or shit
it doesn't matter what a computer thinks, even if it's 100% correct nobody gives a shit but programmers and mentally ill teenagers

>>713615534
thirbby berppy

I just wanted to play anime golf...

>>713632874
Why is everything just getting worse?
I thought things were at rock bottom back in 2013 and we just keep digging ourselves deeper.

>>713632907
Plenty matters beyond just getting the job done. Take a look at asbestos.

>Trump administration EPA reviewing asbestos ban
Huh.

>>713615534
>Boycott any and all genAI.

>>713632523
They will find useless shit to bloviate like where does the traffic in mario kart world go!? And someone of course already did it.

>>713624565
I hate AI art too but come on it's so fucking obvious to spot, look for the little details and it ALWAYS makes itself apparent.
Like for this you would look at how the pages are stacked in the books in the background, the lines on her skirt, the frills on her dress, her purse, etc but this retard is so scared of accidentally supporting AI that they're deluding themself and just being a faggot to the artist

>>713615534
Holy fuck youre OLD

>>713633164
You're giving AI too much credit here anon if you think this was made by AI.

>>713633263
I'm not saying the image is AI

>>713631941
Because then it's not art, it's just consuming slop
Which is fine but it's just not art and asking money for that is silly.
But let's ignore that, if they make it more efficient then why are they charging more than 5 bucks for it?

>>713633258
>literal boomers love their AI slop
>being anti-AI slop means your old
Fuck off, retard.

>>713632827
you're overreacting
no one is getting le cancelled but if you're putting in less effort people will naturally assume it's shovelware because you're demanding more passion than what you yourself contributed to the game
it's the same as sending someone a gift card instead of a hand written note

>>713633416
Indeed, we need to support REAL artists.
Not consumer slop for horny men.

>Some new thing appears in people's lives
>BIG DUMB INTERNET FIGHT

I think people are so used to simple ChatGPT slop that they have no idea what AI can actually look like if you put effort into prompting. I can guarantee that there's AI art that even the biggest reddit >1% commenter AI hater has consoomed without noticing.

>>713633618
>new technology aims to replace more and more people and set rent prices just as we're coming out of the "I CAN'T AFFORD GROCERIES, RETARD" election
>president's priority is securing 10 years of legal protection for that new technology
You're so smart and cool.

>>713633714
Yes xister you totally pass nobody can see your adam's apple

Trannies hate AI so this must be a bot comment.

>>713633714
actual effort costs money
what incentive do they have to put in more effort if they believe the end result is the same? you as a consumer are the only point of feedback they have to tell them where the line is between serviceable and slop is

>>713634174
>will posting about trannies make me white??
Good evening, saar.

>tranny didn't work, switch to Indians
bot

>>713625919
This shit is just going to get worse as judges get older and technology gets newer and more complicated. I imagine someone's going to go to jail for something an AI said he did and judges are gonna be like "Well the robot said you did it so off you go to the gulag"

>>713625085
>AI leaf textures bad
>homos and fags good
unc...

What's the difference between generative AI and material creation plugins for Adobe, Maxton, Blender etc. software that have existed for many years now? This kind of bitching at AI seems like all the white loser zillennials in the west found another moralism cow to milk after BLM, climate change and so on. At least the anti Israel shit is funny to watch I guess.

>>713634869
It was going to be Iran next but they got insecure like a guy who has a expensive car and blew there load early.

>>713615534
It's over anon. They'll do anything to save any development costs and pump their investor numbers.

>>713615142 (OP)
It's also using Kernel Level Anti-Cheat so it's gonna be unplayable on the Deck???? what the fuck??? it's GOLF and not just GOLF but OBSCURE GOLF. They're shooting themselves massively in the foot.

>>713633714
AI doesn't need to hide if it has made something good

>>713616417
>"progress"
>everything becomes worse but cheaper and more profitable for corporations
What are we progressing towards?

>>713635209
Fuck them pigs.

>>713632179
He sounds like a smart dude who isn't afraid of technology.

>>713626314
>That's scary because it lays the groundwork for AI to be used to absolve the users from responsibility.
>The chain of command in corporations often exists to create layers of ignorance to shield leadership, having AI get info from "lol I dunno" means that as long as the copying and plagiarism is proved to be unintended, it can pass.

>>713630489
> the problem with generative AI
An issue faced by courts on many other issues which is simply that proper discovery becomes infeasible once you're handling a certain amount of alleged evidence?

>>713616417
Are you a doomer, or just incredibly stupid?

>>713615142 (OP)
Ok but where's Adam Jensen?

>>713621927
Lol fag. You lost btw.

>>713635613
Please stay quiet when actual people are talking.

>>713615534
Reminder that Valve actually ALLOWED this shit with a disclaimer a fuckton of shit was spammed onto the store, and this could have been like crypto shit on the epic gay store
>>713615561
>You code a grass texture
Pajeet tier reasoning

>>713621927
>13 billionaires are in charge of our country
Isn't this precisely what the founding fathers tried to avoid
the "corporations run America, not the government" meme can't get much more blatant than this

>>713628183
Copyright law as it currently written is gay.
But that's more to do with Microsoft getting the federal government to fuck up the concept of Data ownership by misapplying distribution rights and corporate personhood.

>>713623269
>This has more to do with silicone valley and finance interest that was slush funded to appoint Vance as VP
I do not trust those Skull and Bones and Thiel and co. at all.
>Israel may want AI protected so propaganda and misinfo that favors them can flood boomer social media.
It's already happening. Had to go through my mother's phone recently to unfuck her settings and saw her Facebook was full of AI generated slop Israeli propaganda about "this is how nuked Paris/London/NYC will look after Iran nukes us all!!!!""

>>713635994
when the fuck is that shit going to get repealed?

>>713623269
Because it's a technological revolution, dumbass. Trying to contain it while competing countries make strides would potentially cripple us for a century, out of delusional paranoia, like you suffer. States need to stop trying to stifle the technological leaps that are happening.

>>713633164
If you have to look for tiny details or compare one pixel's color to its neighbor, it's already over.
If you have to explain it, it's already over.

>>713635818
>Isn't this precisely what the founding fathers tried to avoid
The founding fathers were all well-connected, rich men.

>>713625919
Innocent until proven guilty, bitch. It's not Stability AI's job to prove itself guilty of anything.

This games looks like a PS3 "HD" remaster of a PS2 game.
They could have just used those twenty year old textures and nobody would have noticed.

>>713636431
>Innocent until proven guilty
Such a silly assumption

>>713615534
>Boycott any and all genAI.
Pay me to do it or fuck off

>>713636693
You're guilty of child sodomy.

>>713615534
This but with the lgbtq community (;

>>713636430
Their connections and resources were nothing compared to what we have now. These people today can change the very face of the present on a whim, the future is at the mercy of the rich and socially influential more than ever.

Bros, do you think my job as a Tree and Leaf artist is in danger?

>>713636323
No you look at the tiny details to see how fucked they are, it's not even close to comparing the color.

>>713615142 (OP)
They did this just for outrage publicity. You don't have artists who can paint stylized environments, skyboxes, characters, etc. then just decide to use AI for a fucking bark and leaf texture. A skilled fartist who paint this shit in 30mins tops.

>>713636140
>technological leaps that are happening
Leaps towards what?

>>713615142 (OP)
Nintendo does it already. So it's fine now.

>>713636895
The future!

>>713636889
It doesn't matter how skilled the artist is, an AI will do it 100 times faster
>BUT IT WON'T BE AS GOOD!
It's a leaf texture, it literally doesn't matter. This is what AI is for. It's like complaining that a lawnmower is cutting grass instead of a human slave on his hands and knees using a pair of scissors.

>>713636895
total botGOD victory

>>713636895
What you don't want flying cars and teleportation?

>>713623790
it's a proper timelapse tho, not a "layers and details magically appear" timelapse https://x.com/yunyunnn_v/status/1937549431832011163

>>713630054
100% it is. Anyone saying otherwise is just as delusional as the people who thought the Internet would be a fad.

>>713637214
spoken as a true slop consuming npc

>>713637941
I wish the internet was a fad...

>>713619539
>a livestream of my suicide would be the only art form AI can't fake
Weeeellllll about that...

>>713615534
>If you let the conveyor belts win we're eventually all going to be replaced by machines
Uh oh, time to learn how to co-...I mean, better invest in those trades Jack.

>>713636140
>data harvesting and propaganda generators are a technological revolution
Cool, cool. So where's the actual violent revolution against the rich and powerful? I need to sign up for that one.

>>713638074
>60% of my feed got AI content

AI is gonna kill the internet.

>>713628150
this. it's only an issue if it's without permission, and it's basically impossible to generate any AI using any current tools with permission since they've been massively poisoned with people's works (often pirated too to add insult to injury). I genuinely can't fathom how anyone can support these people just because they screw over a few people you don't like, because trust me they're screwing over 50 people you do like as well.

>>713636140
>>713637187
>>713637561
>>713637654
This makes as much sense as claiming you need child porh to be legal so the internet gets in invented.

>>713639308
>This makes as much sense as claiming you need child porh to be legal so the internet gets in invented.
what?

>>713639308
Anon? Get help. Please.

>>713639410
Needing an unregulated technology so that technology improves is the anti-regulation logic. The internet being a method of sending child porn means that we have regulations on what can be sent through the internet. The internet and all that use it didn't end when we regulated this. Progress didn't stop. We can regulate AI and still have progress. The Big Beautiful Bill making it so that AI can't be regulated for 10 years doesn't make sense.

>>713615142 (OP)
>gaming companies start using AI tech en masse
>this droves away trannies, leftists, libtards, homosexuals, feminists, larry fink and other bad actors from buying and making vidya
>it's white heterosexual male hobby again
this is how we win fellas

>>713639068
No grandpa, it's going to change the Internet. You can learn it or you can get left behind.

>>713638060
I accept your concession

>>713615534
There's no difference between this and game devs using the same stock sounds for nearly 40 years

>>713639308
Ok boomer

No regulation. No copyright. Let the people's creativity reign

>>713615142 (OP)
I could not give any less of a fuck

>>713639554
>>713639942
It's true. There's plenty of regulations on highly profitable industries, carving out 10 years of protections is just corporate dick sucking in real time while this administration hands over our asses.

Less hyperbolic, why the fuck would you allow AI generated propaganda and fake news? Why wouldn't you protect children, property, and privacy from silicone valley execs? It's purely transactional and we're worse off for it.

>>713639987
>no copyright
That would need to be the baseline. Without it, deregulation only serves those with wealth, power, and resources.

>>713615142 (OP)
so why did sony sold off this ip exactly?

>>713640429
You're talking about the company who thought Concord was their new star wars.

>>713640000
checked

>>713640225
It's not about allowing it, it's about embracing the inevitable rather than refusing to learn something that is clearly revolutionizing how things work and getting left behind as a result. You are literally like a boomer refusing to learn how the internet works because you think computers are stupid. You're massively crippling yourself out of some retarded sense of pride, and you WILL be replaced by everyone else who learns AI and does the things you can't.

You don't have a say in this change. It's coming. You can learn how to use it, or you can learn what happens when you don't.

>>713641320
>protecting AI from regulations for 10 years is not about allowing it
That's specifically about allowing corporations to do what they want with it.

>it's about embracing the inevitable rather than refusing to learn something that is clearly revolutionizing how things work and getting left behind as a result.
Regulations can help it along and be more beneficial. For example, AI can phase out radiologist jobs. Sucks for the radiologists, but if the patient can get work done much cheaper, it's a net benefit. Improving access to health care is good, so why not put in protections: if you're going to use AI to cut radiologists out, you need to pass those savings on to the patient?

Even if you don't like that, shutting the door on these protections for 10 years is absolutely nonsense. There are better ways to regulate regulations.

>>713641778
I'm saying you're powerless to do anything about it and you're a retard for thinking otherwise. You don't have a say whether this will be allowed or not, you'd be better off learning it because it's coming and you're going to be replaced if you don't.

from the creators of "vote with your wallet: >>713615534

>>713631414
>But making textures is easy?
No, it is not.

>>713639068

Good riddance, fuck the internet.

>>713615142 (OP)
Most games use procedurally generated forests nowadays so it's nothing new or worth getting your panties in a twist about.

>>713615142 (OP)
Hotshots dtopped being good after Fore!

>>713639724
>We can regulate AI and still have progress
Not when the way retards want to regulate it will literally cripple it or make it unsustainable to pursue.

>>713642084
If that were the case, the big beautiful bill providing 10 years of protection would be unnecessary. This isn't about refusing to use it as tool, I'm fine with using it for certain things. That's why I'm telling you lowering costs for radiology is good, but using regulations to make sure that happens, that jobs aren't just lost while costs stay the same, is also good.

>all this whining
>when we literally have the technology to make infinite art of your waifu
you guys are weird

>>713642776
>quantity over quality

>>713642657
The more regulations you make the more China will be the ones that will outcompete you and set the new standard.

>>713642631
We have regulations existing for cars and planes and all Boeing has taught us is that Americans having more regulations, higher safety standards, saves our lives. The East Palestine train derailment happened due to lack of regulations. Creating a 10 year, no regulations period when 13 billionaires and Peter Thiel's paid stooge is in charge is only to protect their profits, not the people.

>>713641778
It's an arms race against China with a lot on the line for the coming decades. That's why

>>713639846
>t. Some NEET dead-end less than a decade away from suicide

>>713642906
How is AI going to kill someone?

>>713642856
When the quantity is 0 I'm more than happy to take what I get. Or you could donate me some money I could use on commissions if you care so much about real artists.

>>713615142 (OP)
It's the future.
Even Nintendo knows that.

>>713642631
you're right we should just deregulate everything for 10 years no take backsies
that's how we win

>>713642856
Quantity has a quality all its own.

>>713642859
>racing China and Israel to see who can melt mom and dad's mind the fastest
>developing cutting edge patient billing technology that somehow makes health care more expensive while China... ???
>seeing who can starve twitter furries the fastest
I see the good and the bad here, but regulations can be specific. Seeing how boomer judges handle these things, over regulation isn't an issue even without 10 years of protections.

>>713643369
I'm just glad I don't live in the UK where I'd probably need a fucking license for it.

>>713631414
>t. has never made a texture before

AI is the future nerds.

>>713643143
You're not going to be the one to decide what constitutes "propaganda and fake news" and probably take all the fun out of AI too looking at how you approach entertainment. Sorry not sorry, bro

Reminder that AI will never surpass the top human art talent, as good as it gets, it will never have soul.
If you are and Artist and are afraid of AI, it means your art is mediocre or worse.
Get Good.

>>713642776
>MIGA

>>713629435
>old-style 2D
>means hand drawn

>look into any AI thread
>same arguments
>same images
>same same on both sides
i'm just convinced at this point these threads are there to boost the post count to hide the fact that the site took a nosedive in population after the hack by the jannies or some shit or like two retards that think this is epic to post about every day

>>713643109
>>713643469
>goalposts moved to "will it kill someone" and "regulations means needing a license"
AI guided decisions can lead to malpractice and deadly advice. Asking me to list what could go wrong as if that's the only metric of harm, the only unethical thing that can happen. Again, there's plenty of advancing technology we have and we protect ourselves with regulations with no detriments in most cases. Billionaires telling you it's good to have 10 years of legal protections for something like AI is obviously dumb because their aim isn't to benefit you, it's to profit from you and cut you out.

>>713644104
Why don't you make an original argument then if it upsets you so much?
Wait, you won't.
You just repeat what others say when they go into a thread they don't like.

why'd they generate something so tiny and stupid. they could have. like. not done that

>>713618097
what sort of brain parasite makes you read a post about affording buying a game and think it's about how many people are going to fucking watch it on twitch? what the hell is wrong with you?

>>713615534
No.

>>713615534
I don't give a single shit so long as it looks good and works. If you don't like it, compete, don't just beg to stay relevant.

idk what's dumber
using AI for at most 1 dude's day of work
or
disclosing it, since nobody would be able to tell

>>713644686
It could be a cool feature; leaves change with the seasons.

>>713644686
steam will slap your ass if you don't disclose it, and even harder if you're provably lying about it

>>713615142 (OP)
Imagine getting mad over a leaf

>>713644410
Because AI making a million gens of leafs so they all look different when you look at it is pretty easy and a neat way to make something immersive, while playing someone to make a million drawings of different leaves is a MASSIVE fucking waste of your budget for something most people won't be looking at in detail anyway

This is a great use of AI because it's literally not replacing a real human because no one would pay a real human to do this shit, it's literally just a small silly feature to make the game slightly more immersive

>>713644686
>using AI for at most 1 dude's day of work
It's textures for leaves. Who the FUCK cares.

>>713615534
Jokes on you
I want MORE AI slop
It stops the normies from fucking with MY vidya

>>713615142 (OP)
Don't give a shit, can I buy it on steam?

>>713644851
Americans do all the time

>game that literally fucking nobody cares about
>400+ posts of infinite AI malding

>>713645154
>can I buy it on steam?
No clearly not.

>>713644686
So it's a choice between
>you want a simple grass texture? That will be $2000+tip+union fees. Also let me check your accounts first because I won't work for fascists
and
>NOOO why didn't you tell me grass.png was made by AI before I enjoyed your game?? this is rape @steam @fbi

>>713645543
The malding is fun to watch.

>professional artist for grass
>but not for leaves or trees
GRASSCELS KEEP WINNING, WOODTARDS KEEP LOSING
joke thread nobody here even cares about it, including me because there's no crossplay

>>713623937
>we'll cut some costs to keep prices down
>to keep prices down
LMAO

>>713615624
Generic assets might as well be ia

>>713615142 (OP)
holy shit, who cares

>>713647198
>436 replies later
Retard.

there has never been a better time to completely give up on any kind of artistic pursue and become a mindless cumsoomer

>>713647605
this but unirionically

...why? Doesn't Namco have infinite money to spend on this shit? Or a massive backcatalog of textures from previous games to reuse? It would be so easy to just avoid this controversy entirely.

>>713647198
anon there are ppl IRL who will literally ghost you if you even imply that AIs could be useful or might consider doing you real harm if you admit you have used them

>>713647863
Your internet friends are not your real friends anon.

>>713624565
>mixed digital drawing
You are tracing AI, people notice, you get shit on.

That's a good thing btw

>>713644970
they just updoged the textures from older game, why are your protecting a company? If you are not putting effort to your assets then i won't buy your low effort product.

That simple enough for you retard?

>>713615142 (OP)
That's exactly what AI SHOULD be used for.

>>713647984
my friends aren't mentally ill luddites but I've read many real life experiences with this trend. this is very real, these assholes really want to burn down AI datacenters and do harm for everyone who embraces AI and we didn't even hit AGI.

>>713635209
These are objectively the most popular types of meme videos the past few years. It's a baonfide artistic movement.

>>713648115
Why are you attacking a company?

>>713635293
Yes, better. AI is better than most artists and will continue to improve.

>>713635582
You're projecting onto him.

>>713615534
brb buying 666 copies

>>713615534
Oh no they used AI for leaves my life is over

Dude making a leaf texture from scratch would take what? 1 or 2 minutes? lazy as fuck.

>>713615534
best post

>>713615142 (OP)
Isn't this just a port? What's the point of replacing the textures with AI generated shit when the assets already existed in the first place?

>>713615534
This is another horse armor situation we ain't got control over, chief. The industry is driven by slop.

>>713615534
>all the street shitters mad at this post
How did we let /v/ get like this?

>>713615142 (OP)
added to wishlist

>>713630776
>procedurally generated = ai generated
why is /v/ so retarded?

>>713648858
AI does it in 5 seconds. which is like 10000% faster.

why would you waste that much time for zero gains?

Buying this will kill artfags faster?

>>713615142 (OP)
reminder that anyone who defends AI slop is a filthy jeet and should kill themselves.

wishlisted, thanks

fuck pajeet code monkeys

>>713623790
>It just looks very unnatural
you do realize humans make mistakes in proportions and anatomy too, right?

>>713649271
damn, Ranjesh. you really should learn to be more subtle with your shilling. no one's gonna believe you if you keep this up.

>>713649170
I wish!

>>713615534
You have people who suck it off now but /v/ will overwhelmingly hate AI in 15 years or less when it becomes widely adopted by AAA companies and is mainstream. Screencap this.

>>713647854
because it's immersive and it doesn't matter unless you're a leftist twitter tranny that associates AI with trump

>>713648115
I don't think you're the audience and I kinda doubt you buy most games

>>713649091
technically it is

What is with this influx of threads with titles starting with [SAD NEWS] and shit? It started with those threads about that indian dark souls. Is it just one lonely pajeet spamming them wanting attention? It's certainly working out for them, apparently

>>713615534
AI has been in games for years. Ubisoft proudly admitted to using it before it's prime, and then shut up immediately when Stable Diffusion came out and started getting luddite pushback.

>>713649190
And yet all the white executives are opting to actually use it in their games. Wonder who is to blame here.

>>713645613
would that i lived in the /biz/tard's dimension where a grunt texture randomization programmer got an immediate $2000 + benefits for a day's work

the average corporate nutsucker will present an amazing reality to me as dystopia and i'm supposed to agree it sounds awful

>>713648390
When you put it that way, it's general misanthropes vs misanthropes who only target specific misanthropes. The latter is better.

>>713650161
It's a dogwhistle for TWBs to congregate

>>713650161
How new?

>>713615142 (OP)
i REALLY hope this will scratch my Pangya itch, i fucking miss that game and Kooh

>>713615534
reddit

THIS is what you retards sound like.
https://x.com/KraccBacc/status/1936467991396319375

>>713643119
I mean, I know you can make thousands of pictures at that quality in a day but an artist could THEORETICALLY make a single better image maybe if you gave them a few days.

>>713650487
kek

>>713650371
see for yourself
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/sad%20news/type/op

>>713623937
ai cost cutting is going to pass the savings on to the consumers the same way digital distribution did.

>>713615142 (OP)
>trees and grass
How useless do you have be to need to use ai to make a repeating green texture? It doesn't help that the game uses a cartoon artstyle so a cartoon looking tree wouldn't look out of place.
It's a nothingburger, but also any controversy was easy to avoid.

>>713650161
its a meme because jap news articles legit do it

>>713650487
>retards can only think and express themselves in slop
Yeh

>>713650708
The wonders of telehealth made it so that a call from your doctor counts as a visit. Want to know your lab results? That'll be $35 + we bill your insurance.

>>713648561
sameface, same poses, same everything.
>>713650041
The fuck? i love golf games but this ain't it chief. Now excuse me while i play grand tourment golf on my switch 2

>>713615142 (OP)
isnt the easiest thing to get a texture of? like just go outside lol

>>713615142 (OP)
I want a comfy golf game to play. Is this one good? If not, what is?

>>713620524
Lmao I have now subbed to that loveAI group. Artists are such insufferable whiny fags.

>>713619539
I love AI because of shit like this. Like, sorry you were stuck the period of human history where it was never easier to be a mediocre artist just to have the rug pulled out from under you

>>713650986
it's AI slop

white / yellow conversation about AI: how does this work? how do I use this?

brown person conversation about AI: how does this make me feel?

>>713615142 (OP)
What's so hard about taking 10 steps outside and taking a picture of a leaf?

>>713651425
brown person conversation about AI: How does this THREATEN me?

>>713651373
I don't care about the grass and leaf. Is the game fun to play?

>>713619539
>suicide is considered an art form now by these freaks
TWENTY
TRILLION
KEKS
E
K
S

>>713624565
This looks so soulful that I doubt it was made by humans. Soulful as in delightfully goofy, like something I would see in Discworld.

>>713651620
Too late to try and meme AI slop into being a white person thing now sanjay

>>713651894
What even is going on with this part.
It looks like a sandwich.

>>713652017
white person discussion: judges something on the basis of its own internal properties and merits

brown person discussion: judges something by surface level associations that do not reflect its internal function

>>713649961
/v/ will hate AIslop in triple Ajeet games and love AI in NTRQuest 7.01 porn indie games

>>713652202
It's not their fault, they're just incapable of higher thinking.

>>713652017
Don't be like that, Advik.

>>713652389
Me thinks /v/ loves those games because they are made with passion and for a specific niche. AI is the complete opposite

>>713653157
>they are made with passion

>>713652017
I feel like the reasons for this are easy to guess
>Whole country is retarded, literal 70IQ average
>They're making and selling said AI
>Low intelligence poverty tribes
>Country where people already trust retarded scams on whatsapp all the time
Then idk the rest

>>713636802
If evidence suggested that, it'd be easier on the courts to lead with that assumption

>>713619539
>>713615534
total Artcel death