Expedition 33 broke me

i think yoshi-p broke you dude
you are autistucally obsessed

>>713623862
Hey look its the tranny voice actor

>>713623709 (OP)
Oh look, it's this thread again

>>713623709 (OP)
It took E33 2 months to get 3.3m while 16 sold 3m in just 1 week. Why would he be broken?

>>713623709 (OP)
Turn Based won. Zoomies lost

>>713625346
thanks for bumping it retard

>Barry saved Final Fantasy
KNEEL

>>713625478
1 month*
no name IP vs THE jrpg IP

>>713623709 (OP)
Your bussy is eternally blown out by Yoshida

>>713623709 (OP)
will 8.0 fix xiv?

alright, new thread to prove that my ideas are best and that every game sucks that doesn't have them

>>713625478
Probably because people actually liked Expedition 33 and they continue to praise it and generate new sales while XVI's sales completely fell off after day one because everyone realized it was trash and spread the word.

>>713625478
How much money did SE waste on marketing? Those french fags probably didn't spend a dime

>>713623709 (OP)
The CEO was asked by an investor if they are aware of the success turnbased game Exp had and if they will make Dragon Quest and FF turnbased.

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/final-fantasy/asked-for-another-turn-based-final-fantasy-in-the-wake-of-clair-obscur-expedition-33s-success-square-enix-says-turn-based-rpgs-are-its-origin-and-its-future/

>>713625764
People liked 16 too.

>>713625997

>>713623709 (OP)

>>713625601
>no name IP's combined total across multiple platforms in 1 month is less than THE jrpg IP's total on a single platform in 1 week
Ok?

>>713625927
square releases a fuckton of turn based rpgs, but it's not FF so you faggots don't buy them.

>>713625997
Maybe on planet retard

>>713626143
>Talking about FF
>"what do you mean you're not playing those games you weren't talking about?"
Read nigga READ!

>>713626094
>>713626154

Honestly, only actual gamers should be devs.

>>713626132
and 20 times the budget

>>713625478
Hi good mooring Mr Rajeesh. How many copies has 16 sold since then?

>>713626339
Ok...and?

>>713626286
L O L

>>713626286
>Its not 90+
Obviously that means everyone hated the game and it flopped

>>713625535
Not like it fucking matters when your retarded ass bumped it too

>>713626286
PFFFFTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHA

>>713623709 (OP)
hiring a troon voice actor killed his career

>>713625997
It never went viral the way E33 went viral though. Despite how much of their budget they blew on those massive epic Eikonic battles, they never really ended up getting spread around much. They probably expected these big clashes and the big action cinematics to do their marketing for them, and they never did.

>>713626379
>How many copies has 16 sold since then?
Over 3 million. Because games don't just stop selling after a one week.

>>713626286
>yeah the game has big problems but PERFECT SCORE BECAUSE YOSHIDA IS MY FRIEND

>>713626474
2nd anniversary was a few days ago, where's the updated number?

>>713626474
So what’s the actual number anon? Over 3 million? You must have an exact number right anon?

>>713625601
>THE jrpg IP
Who are you kidding? SE have released turd after turd for 20 years, it's a miracle they sell 3m copies as it is, FF isn't even a proper JRPG series anymore. An indie no name attempt at jrpg with a decent marketing budget has no excuse not to wipe the floor with Squeenix.

>>713626474
It's 3.5million including the PC and Xbox sales figures.

>>713626384
>game 2 getting better reviews means no one liked game 1
Not how that works.
>>713626467
>console exclusive never when viral than a multiplat
No way

>>713626474
>Because games don't just stop selling after a one week.
That's interesting because it seems FFXVI did exactly that.

>>713626503
This should get you lyched

>>713623709 (OP)
then why do you need to post images made before e33 even existed or straight up shoop stuff?
if that were true, surely you'd be able to find pictures of this

>>713626474
Logically your statement makes sense, and yet XVI actually did stop selling after that first week.

>>713626645
>source my ass

>>713626629
like it or not, the vast majority of people think of FF when they hear "jrpg"

>>713626154
What a perfect way to describe the world we live in.

>>713626474
I just wanna highlight that I know the nigger faggot that is going to bat for 16 won’t respond to anyone that gave him a (YOU)

EX33 won.

>>713626417
So funny!
Here's an E33 review
Still funny right?

>>713626661
Whatever helps you cope.

>>713626758
I'm glad you asked for a 'SOURCE' like a redditor because I have 15 Secondary sources that use Square Enix as the Primary source.

>>713626474

>>713626901
Wow thats sad. Even the tranny game got more attention than nu FF

>>713626657
It means Expedition 33 is more liked than FF16, by a massive factor.

>>713626731
>momentum slowing means it "stopped selling
Are you illiterate?

>>713623709 (OP)
No, it would appear YoshiP broke you.

so do you think its the same two retards arguing for the 100th time or does he get a new victim each time?

>>713626901
Who the hell are these people that are playing Veiilguard

>>713626873
>Chatgpt
Holy retard. The president never said it sold that much, that was some "analyst" that made the claim. You're so fucking dumb

>>713626873
For comparison I asked the exact same question but targeted at Clair Obscure Expedition 33

While the sales for FF16 are estimated to hit a maximum ceiling of 3.8million, Exp 33 per industry analyst Michael Douse suggested the game could reach 6 million units conservatively, with potential to hit 8-10 million based on word-of-mouth momentum.

Is FF14 good or not?

>>713626901
>proving that more people bought it
Uh thanks.

>>713627152
It has some decent moments in Shadowbringer but its not worth the slog to get there. And it fell off pretty hard in quality

>>713626416
retard

>>713627152
It WAS good. Nowadays its so bad that Yoshi-P had to apologize for the poor state of the game just a few days ago.

>>713627152
Story with very high highs and very low lows and awful pacing. The gameplay is fucking atrocious.

>mfw i throughly enjoyed both XVI and 33

>>713627064
you’re the victim

>>713627386
wait, no...

>>713627386
>i thought the bottled diarrhea AND the perfectly cooked steak were both great, yeah you could say i'm pretty sophisticated...

>>713627403
me pointing out a trap isn't me falling for a trap

shart slopscura33 flopped

>>713627475
>food analogy

>>713627386
what a fag

>>713627386
based game enjoyer

>>713627495
>t. victim

>>713626791
30+ years old people do but anybody younger than that think of Persona instead. Most younger people have never even played a FF game in their lives, they mostly play what streamers play and FF is not popular with streamers.

Mid 33 is overrated

>>713627150
>analyst

>>713627152
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Plus is like 10 years of content if you start now.

>>713626791
They might think of FF but if they're the kind of person that would be interested in E33 they're the kind of person who most likely knows what a fucking clownshow non-JRPG series FF has become.

>Exp 33 is so successful that now Square Enix have to take questions about it and if they will try to replicate the success of that game
Oh how the mighty have fallen

>>713627903
NO IT WASN'T SUCCESSFUL IT'S FAKE SUCCESS IT'S FAKE SOUL IT'S NOT EVEN REAL TURN BASED AAAAHHHHH STOP THE COUNT

>>713626962
because it got shilled by Asmongoloid, Critical and other big streamers, so they pretend to like it. But do you really think zoomers would play a game like E33 and like it? lmao
There's a reason why like 60% of the sales are in China and most of the user review are bots.

>>713624150
get help

>>713627903
>asking a question means it's causing them a headache
E33fags sure like to exaggerate.

>spend 5 minutes running to town hoping your sprint kicks in
>poorly animated cutscene of an unnamed lady saying she needs dinner ingredients
>spend 5 minutes running to the far corner of the empty map to the waymark
>hold button to pick up a bean
>hold button to pick up a bean
>hold button to pick up a bean
>Clive (whispering in batman voice): "Shit, we'd better get these fucking beans back before she goes fucking hungry..."
>teleport back to quest giver
>Clive stares at the camera silently for half a minute
>...
>QUEST COMPLETE
>...
>Exp begins tallying up one digit at a time for a total of 30,000 (out of 12,000,000 required for the level)
>Gil begins tallying up one digit at a time, for a total of 300
>Items gained: 300 wolf pelts (you already have 6,799 because they don't do anything but every quest and every chest gives them to you)

Umetsu admits that without Sakaguchi, Square collapsed
>“To put it simply – he is the big boss. Always has been and always will be.”

>“Maybe Sakaguchi isn’t aware of this, but the situation at Square was awful after he quit. He left and the organization suddenly collapsed. I thought to myself – Oh no, I should get away from here.”

>He says Sakaguchi has the natural qualities of a leader that drew people to him, but also commends Square Enix on getting back on their feet after all the trouble they’d faced.

I always thought that Square has went immediately to shit when they got rid of Sakaguchi, and even genius composer Umetsu thought the same thing.

>>713626962
Rebirth got better reviews than E33. So what?

>>713628094
You retard, Asmongold played all of FF16 on streamer from start to finish as did a bunch of other Streamers, it didn't help the game because it's shit with no replayability, once you've seen it there's no need to go out and buy it because of how it's designed as a movie.

Exp 33 you can play it, watch someone else play it and still get a different experience.

>>713628284
>Rebirth got better reviews than E33.
Why are you lying?

>>713627152
All I can say is it was great game starting out in ARR with a good FC (guild) and I played it until the end of Shadowbringers before I got sick to death of the formula. It really depends what you value most in MMOs, it's top tier in a lot of respects but also literally the worst MMO in others eg if you like build and gear choice diversity and really learning a class/job beyond memorizing rotations FF14 is definitely the bottom of the barrel.

>>713628094
Assmongler played FF16 on stream, as did other big streamers like Moonmoon and Max. It backfired though because the game was shit and they all trashed it by the time they finished it.

>>713627961
Dragon Quest 3 remake (a cheap turn-based game made by Square) sold 2 million in just 3 weeks. They literally have no reason to care about e33.

>>713626143
Final Fantasy had a specific type of appeal. Dragon Quest and the plenty of other small AA games square shits out don’t have that appeal. Expedition 33 has that appeal

>>713628531
>no reason to care about someone else raking profits on your turf

>>713628220
>Umetsu admits that without Sakaguchi, Square collapsed

>>713628759
How does the stock price make my video game better?

>>713626973
I guess you aren't good at translating PR speak into what they really mean.

>>713628679
>Expedition 33 has that appeal
No it doesn't. It's even more bland in it's character and environmental design than FF15 and 16.

>>713628531
Based on a decades long existing IP. How many of SE’s new IP’s have had anywhere near the success of E33?

>>713623862
>yoshi-p broke you dude
FPBP

Barry is bonkers and Yoshi-P lives rent free in his head.

>>713628736
Should they care that pokemon sells 20+ million?

>>713628849
FF15 is nothing but deserts and diners, and FF16 is nothing but grey shanty towns and forests. There's nothing fantastical in either of them. You're out of your fucking mind.

>>713628483
>if you like build and gear choice diversity and really learning a class/job beyond memorizing rotations

This doesn't exist in any MMORPG. Minmaxing metafaggots will always ruin the fun by screeching to the devs until everything is geared toward clearing content and collecting the reward with minimal system interaction and as quickly as possible.

>>713628886
Octopath

>>713628978
You've never played another MMORPG.

>>713628907
Unless they want to be sued like Palworld, no. You shouldn't copy a Nintendo game. But you should care when another game makes millions by being making money mimicing a brand you own.

Total japtroons humiliation!

>>713629107
>you should care when another game makes millions
They're making millions too.

>>713628802
Here's your (you)
Hope nobody else replies to you
because I've seen you post this exact thing every time someone mentions the stock
You just ignore the context of why it was posted

>>713629235
How does the stock price make my video game better?

>>713628802
>posts that X said Square is collapsing
>get proving proven wrong
>move the goalposts
Every time.

>>713628978
Play FFXI and try not to get filtered out by actual RPG mechanics, kid.

>>713628976
Yes. And E33 is nothing but incoherent noisy slop for world design, which is infinitely lazier than even making a fairly bland open world. Compare Lumiere to Altissia from FF15, it's no contest.

>>713628849
You’ve never played E33. That game has has some insane vistas and scenery. XVI meanwhile is literally just generic medieval slop that could be pulled out of any game. The only thing it has that can be considered even remotely unique are the occasional Fallen ruins and the occasional giant crystal mountains.

>>713629539
How does the stock price make my video game better?

>>713627152
I’m still enjoying myself after 11 years so I would say yea

>>713629557
>expedition 33 is bland unlike 15 and 16!
>a-a-actually i mean bland is good and expedition 33 is too noisy, aahhh here we go a nice bland grassy field now THAT's final fantasy baby
Embarrassing display.

>>713623709 (OP)
OH N-

>>713628759
He's talking about Square not Square Enix and he's also talking about the quality of the games which he's 100% correct.
High stockprices are not an indicator of a company able to make a good game.

>Larry is now defending FF15 in his battle against E33
Barry gaped this bitch's pig pussy. Never forget that Bazztek owns your pig pussy, Larry.

>>713629796
>High stockprices are not an indicator of a company not collapsing
lol

>>713628679
No it doesn't. I'd say Octopath has closer to FF's appeal of competent character growth and arcs woven into world-ending threats and does something close to the magitech aesthetic of FF
Exped doesn't do any of this stuff, it just got popular enough for people to pretend it did because FF is a good touchstone for normalfags.

>>713629905
How does the stock price make my video game better?

>>713629576
You can get as emotional as you like faggot, it's objective FACT that E33's enviroment is a horribly designed clusterfuck. Pure eyecancer.

>>713629905
How did you take this
>High stockprices are not an indicator of a company able to make a good game.

and make it into this?
>High stockprices are not an indicator of a company not collapsing

>>713629647
I accept your concession.

>>713629963
retard

>>713630000
How does the stock price make my video game better?

>>713629203
Not making as much as they can since others are finding space where you should be. When your shareholders are naming other games, it's a red flag.

>>713629963
>it's objective FACT that E33's enviroment is a horribly designed clusterfuck. Pure eyecancer.
There is contrarian and there is whatever the fuck you are.

>>713629557
This looks like fucking soulless trash holy shit.

can you stack Lune's end-of-the-turn skills?

>>713629963
Five minutes ago you were calling it bland, now it's a clusterfuck?

>>713630059
He doesn't know, he thinks a company worth a lot of money somehow gives them the intrinsic ability to make good games. He's a retard.

>>713623709 (OP)
Fuck you, loser

>>713626474
>games don't just stop selling after a one week.
shit games hyped by their name alone do. starfield, ffxvi, mass effect andromeda sold millions on preorders and hype only, but after it becomes known they are shit they stop selling

>>713629963
Your game is broken faggot.

>>713629768
Retard, an incoherent mess for environmental design is a form of blandness in itself. Almost every area looks like they threw an entire page of purchased assets into a procgen.

>>713630329
>a-a-a-actually i m-meant that uh..... being the opposite of bland is also bland somehow...!
LMAO I'm dying here dude, please keep posting

>>713630081
>Not making as much as they can
FF16 sold 90% of what E33 sold in less time and on one platform.

>>713630475
FF16 sold on day one and then ground to a halt because it's trash and everyone found out.

>>713627386
You’re not supposed to do that

>>713630434
What part of something being reptitive=bland don't you understand? No wonder you E33 fags lap it up with that kind of IQ holy fuck.

>>713630571
>then ground to a halt
There you go lying again.

How did YoshiP end up buck breaking this board?

>>713623709 (OP)
Is that a game?

>>713630263
>LE EIFFEL TOWER BUT TWISTED
kek this what you fags call peak?

>>713630627
>repetition is t-totally bland and that's why the deserts and diners game isn't bland and the grey medieval shanty towns for 80 hours game isn't bland!
LMAAAAOOOOO KEEP GOING DUDE AHAHAAHAHA

>>713630475
Based on it being from a nearly forty year old IP. And then it nearly completely stopped selling. The game had zero legs. It’s still probably gonna wind up selling as much as the SNES Final Fantasies despite costing 50x more to make.

>>713630717
Every non-battle screenshot people share of this game is something you see in the first few hours. It's the exact same shit style the whole at least up to the point I dropped it in Act 2, oh actually, it does have some incredibly non-descript DARK CAVE dungeons thrown in as well for good measure.

The retards who vehemently defend FF and YoshiP don't even realise that people like me who love FF, that FF is my favourite series of all time, FF9 my favourite game of all time, we know how good this series can be and FF15, FF16 and FFXIV Dawntrail are not it.
They can do better because they did do better, in other words I hold them to this high standard otherwise you just end up accepting shit and the franchise goes to shit.
Stop defending shit games, the brand, the franchise deserves more and it deserves people who are passionate for the series to take over, not old tired men who make games based on engagement metrics, on inconvenience mechanics but on creativity and what is FUN!

>>713630678
This mindbroke /v/: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/final-fantasy-16-ditched-turn-based-combat-to-appeal-to-younger-generations-producer-says/

>>713630873
>then it nearly completely stopped selling
Me when I lie.

>>713630796
Are you okay anon? Maybe take a break. You don't even seem to know what you're arguing about because I never said FF15 and 16 weren't bland. I said E33's incoherent slop deisgn was worse.
>>713629557

>>713623709 (OP)
This is why video games will never be art.

>>713630954
Honestly I don’t like dmc combat but still enjoyed the game , now if it had copied kh2 combat I would have easily make it one of my top 5 games

>>713630954
>final-fantasy-16-ditched-turn-based-combat-to-appeal-to-younger-generations-producer-says
How did that work out when Exp 33 kept Turnbased and still sold more than FF16 along with appealing to a younger audience and the older FF type fans.
Producer YoshiP doesn't know his own dick from his asshole.

>>713631326
He knows your asshole
He knows it well

>>713623709 (OP)
>mogged by Metaphor
>mogged by Reddit33
How do you take this many L's and not get demoted?

>>713630879
Why are you lying faggot?

>>713631326
yoship will always live inside of your cranium

>>713631326
>and still sold more than FF16
E33 sold 3.3m across 3 platforms. FF16 sold 3m on one and then got a PC release after. It didn't sell more than 16.

>>713631326
3m week 1 vs 3m over a month+
and that's with the latter being hard-shilled and astroturfed

>>713625478
Dawntrail destroyed the fanbases desire to even play anymore kek

>>713631393
>>713631509
>>713631548
>>713631624
Absolutely amazing how braindead YoshiP defenders are. I'm sure you all bought PS5s and bought FF16 right? R-right?

>>713631625
Leave it to an E33 defender to parry to a different topic

>>713631734
you sound barely lucid

>>713623709 (OP)
It's time for him to step down and pass the torch to someone who is genuinely passionate for XIV still, and is able to dedicate themselves to it full-time.

>>713631624
It's funny how 16 selling most of what E33 sold on just one platform in a week just shows Square the problem was just not making 16 multiplat.

>>713631836
eh, there was also the braindead decision to lock people to one difficulty until they cleared the game once

>>713631734

>>713631785
Yes English words frighten you.

Unironically, why is every FFtard defending squeenix like their life depend on it? I've never seen such case of corporation cocksucking.

Thank you Expedition 33 for showing these stupid retards we still want turn based games and not every single game and series in existence needs to turn into a fucking action game. I still really like Kingdom Hearts 2, but you know, get your shit together with everything else.

FFXVI flopping is a good thing because that means if they ever make another FF remake it will be turn based instead of the travesty that FF7R is.

>>713632019
Its a disease. But if you want the real answer, it's because they are new (Started in EW or DT) and still have years of legacy content to catch up on. They are not yet able to see the same problems as veterans do. They see a lot of hate for Yoshi on this board and take offense on his behalf because in their eyes, he's done nothing wrong.

>>713632019
>>713632254
Proving E33fags are retarded doesn't mean you're defending Sqaure.

>>713632254
Oh look he’s samefagging

Why are you pretending you haven’t made this yoshida threads for years, like they weren’t 400 post 40 ip threads

>>713632250
FFXV sold 5 million in one day. FFXVI not being turn based was never the problem.

>mfw I watch retards who are poor and being forced to only pick one game to play a year
God I enjoyed e33, ffxvi, and metaphor and hope we keep getting good games

>>713632019
The even funnier part is, I asked them if they bought FF16 and a PS5 just like YoshiP asked and they couldn't even reply. These shit eaters don't even buy these games, they just want to argue.

>>713632019
>s-shut up! stop defying me or... or you won't like what happens next!!!
looool faggot

>>713631464
>How do you take this many L's and not get demoted?
He did get demoted. But I bet you already knew that

>>713632454
Enjoyer of video games wins again.
Non-playing pajeets who only try to instigate game v game wars on /v/ all day long lost.

>>713632019
Some of them are from /xivg/ their entire personality is wrapped up in being a character on FF14 think of it like Second Life, so if that game fails their life is a failure.
They don't care about the content of the game or Square Enix or FF16 or any future game they just want us all to shut up and stop ruining their Second Life simulator.

>even the jannie is tired of OP being obsessed with yoshi p that he auto saged the thread
That’s honestly surprising

>>713632762
Its every day, multiple threads
But its the people who complain about it that are obsessed

>>713632762
>that he auto saged the thread
yoshipschizo on suicide watch

>>713632762
you will never be a janitor

>>713632762
i'm surprised that anyone wouldn't get sick of his constant, bihourly spazzing
literally a child crapping his pants all day long

>>713632121
they aren't worthy of using that cardcaptor sakura reaction image

>>713632762
It was done because you reported the thread when you started losing the argument you were involved in.

>>713633036
XVIfags just denying everything without posting any counterevidence of their own isn't losing.

>>713632019
It's worse, if you go check what other games the FF14 trannies play, it's only other FF related games.
They made their entire personality centered around FF.

>>713633036
Why would i agure with anyone in this thread? I enjoyed ffxvi and e33

>>713633268
FF players played E33 though

>>713633293
based based based baed

Autosaged. Someone make a new thread to prove this thread wasn't full of samefagging.

>autosaged
KEK. Janny got booty blasted. Sad. Hes got a tranny character in Dawntrail I bet

Its funny how E33 had linear levels that still encouraged and rewarded exploration while XVI didn't.

>>713633027
Trannies have been adopting Sakura like they adopted Lain.

>>713633589
Jannies hate XIV you idiot
They love WoW

>>713632454
Enjoying everything doesn't make you smart or mature, it means you have no standards. XVI is just an outright bad game. If you enjoyed it it's because you don't actually like video games and you just want to be a fan of something.

I still don't see a new thread. Cowards.

>>713627386
I’m happy for you anon but one of the reasons I loved EX33 was because 16 was such fucking dog shit.

>>713633868
If you like movies you can occasionally interact with you might like XVI. The gameplay was total balls.

>>713634116
Even the story ends up shitting all over itself so I couldn't even enjoy it in that regard.

>>713628094
You do realize all the streamers you mentioned played 16 too right???

>>713633868
he's more mature than someone shitting his pants about the same game for years

>>713628094
Critical was shitting on the game hard over its horrendous level design. I'd look it up for you but I dont have the time because the thread is autosaged and nearly dead.

>>713628431
I love Rebirth but FFfags are fucking seething niggers and you can tell they’re mad EX33 blew their shit out lol

>>713634371
>STOP BEING MEAN TO ME IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY DON'T SAY IT AT ALL

>>713634451
>we are on le infamous hacker 4chens that means to fit in you NEED to be a caustic retard manchild

>>713634569
>NOOOOOOOO WE NEED COZY WHOLESOME UWU TIMES LIKE ON DISCORD NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO SAY MEAN THINGS TO ME THERE EVERYONE HAS TO PRETEND LIKE I HAVE GOOD TASTE SO YOU NEED TO BE NICE!

>>713634638
>you can't expect me to behave like a well-adjusted adult. don't you know where we are?

>>713633771
They adopt it for the gay shit and syaosaku shipping and then call clamp every slur in the books the moment the topic of rika/terada comes up