Thread 713641072

This is unacceptable

>>713641072 (OP)
I mean if they're claiming it's HDR when it's not, then yeah... it is unacceptable???

>>713641072 (OP)
>>713641167
Just a reminder that people are returning their Shitch 2 and that the Shitch 2 will be Nintenfag's last console.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqXVT3JECQw

>mad because of his buyers remorse over the Wii U
>shits on the Switch because it replaced it
>uses Sony specifically because he thinks that they're Nintendo's mortal enemy
>doxxed himself when he was shilling mighty number 9 because he thought Mega Man 11 was a switch exclusive
>tried to turn himself into a boogeyman by calling everyone else Eric since everyone is able to recognise him on pattern recognition alone
>has like five different trips he uses in famitsu threads and several catchphrases
>at one point before the hacking a mod would actively defend him, banning people just for saying his name

Tendies literally love eating shit thoughbeit

>>713641518
FOMO fag bought it, btw

>>713641072 (OP)
What is this, the 20th thread about Nintendo you've made today you shitskin brazilian nigger?

>>713641167
Unfortunately, the VESA HDR specification is a total fucking mess and cheap panel makers made sure it would be that way so they could sell their garbage with the HDR! icon on the box. Actual, good HDR is awesome and easily better than ray tracing or frame generation or whatever other graphics gimmick you can think of. It might even be better than VRR. But people don't know that because they're buying edge-lit LCD crap. IOW the Switch 2 screen probably does fulfill the HDR requirements, it's just that the requirements are shit.

>>713642887
I never said Nintendo was breaking the law. I said it was unacceptable behavior.

penis

>>713645318
niggerjanny

>>713641518
the jeet you posted literally bought it

>Francesco De Meo
Who?

I play on a TV, so not an issue.

You are all so ungrateful, Nintendo has thought of every aspect and made the best possible console and yet you think you know better.

>>713642857
are you keeping tab of all potentially anti-nintendo posts on /v/ to then go complain about it?
Why?

>>713641072 (OP)
This doesn't work on Nu-tendo fanboys. They love dogshit and hate anything good.

>>713647841
cope more steamie

its really going to suck for early adopters who bought the device before any decent reviews are up and are now stuck with a device thats not fun to play on until they're exploited further with the sw2 oled release, which they'll obviously buy to get rid of the shitty ass lcd screen

it's hilarious how broke people who have never touched a switch 2 are trying so hard to form opinions and force them against people who actually own it and love it

>>713648732
what do you love about it? the one game that looks like it runs at 15fps?

>>713641072 (OP)
It's ok when Nintendo does it

>>713648383
Stick with snoy, you've already long since lost against PC

>>713648732
I find it a bit hilarious theres objective data about the display being terrible but so many people keep defending it that others then go "wow these people are having great time with their switch 2 screens, there must defective units that all key reviewers happened to get" when its just tendie defence force excusing anything

I play docked. Not my problem.

Do you want it to cost $700 or not faggot

>>713641072 (OP)
whoops everyone bought it anyways

>>713648923
They should sell a screenless version.

Imagine buying consoles lol
Imagine willingly giving money to Nintendo to use your own internet connection for FUCKING MARIO KART HAHAHAHAHAA

>>713649083
they should sell their games as multiplats and skip forcing people to buy terrible hardware thats decade behind the competition

>>713641072 (OP)
It's deliberate. They'll offer an OLED version in a couple years

>>713649209
Kek'd

Is this thread 80% samefagging by that Nintendo schizo?

>>713649209
lmao sums things up

>>713649209
I find a bit sad these people cant argue honestly to defend a corporation that doesnt give a shit about them.

>>713641072 (OP)
I'm not a screenophile with a $2000 tv to compare it to so i don't really notice anything.

>>713649209
/thread

you'll still buy it anyway

>>713649209
fitting that that the switch user is a child

>>713649603
You can stop tribalfagging now, no one is defending nintendo here, just calling out your dumb ass for trying to find the most minor things to be mad about

>Problematic as a descriptor for technical or empirical data
I don't care about the words of bugmen

>>713649209
Based

>>713649828
would you prefer a switch 2 screen that had modern ips display pixel response characteristics or would you want a switch 2 screen that was literally worse than anything else on the market

>>713649980
Why didn't anyone notice this for weeks?

>>713641072 (OP)
Repeat after me chud
Small *clap* indie *clap* company*clap*

>>713649603
I find it sad some subhumans spend every single day looking for pointless shit to complain about

>>713649980
You haven't even touched a Switch 2 you seething retard lmao

>>713649803
>admits to getting angry at a child having fun

>>713649209
kek it literally be like that

>>713649209
DELETE THIS

>>713650036
would that change the screens inherent characteristics
Nintendo could send review units to digital foundry so their review gets out before release but apparently nintendo didnt want it to happen.

>>713649980
I don't care as long as it looks good and there isn't any noticable input lag, i'm not some pro gamer that needs the lowest milisecond response time physically possible

>>713649132
Kek

>>713649209
OP REKT.

I'm saving this to post in every one of his schizo threads XDD

how many times is he going to reply to himself

I don't see the issue, most switch 1 owners used it as a home console, meaning they never used the built in screen. That's probably how they are going to use the switch 2, so the quality of the screen being worse is irrelevant.

>>713649589
Digital Foundry noticed it. And they don't even notice TAA ghosting so you know it's gotta be bad

>>713649209
This nails it

>>713650036
20 years ago the whole concept of a "framerate" was considered a schizophrenic conspiracy theory by console gamers

Most people are nor obersvant of things that aren't specifically pointed out to them. That's why the jews can so successfully subverr

Whenever someone mentions wanting to buy a handheld gaming device in the future this pic is going to be extremely useful.

>hey kid, wana buy some BLUR? We got the best BLUR on the market

>>713641072 (OP)
>nobody noticed until youtube man makes a video
hmm
Sounds like a whole load of nothing.

>>713648919
>objective data
>one video from a guy that was already wrong about cyberpunk resolution, while people that have had it since release haven’t complained about it at all

Hmmmm

>>713650310
30 ms - thats 2 whole frames of display lag at 60 fps. And thats just from the screen alone

>>713651025
Yikes

>>713651025
Cool cartoon bro.

>>713651173
At 120hz games you can expect 4 frames worth of ghosting being visible just hanging around.

It's bizarre. Why even bother with 120hz?

>>713641167
They fucked up their marketing. They made wild claims of 4k, VRR, HDR and all of this shit, when none of it is real. There's no game on switch 2 that can do any of this stuff. Nintendo is so full of shit when it comes to marketing this thing

>>713651360
See >>713651282

>>713651418
see what

>>713651484
>see what

HDR for a start you imbecile.

>>713651360
And? Sony was claim8ng 8k for the playstation.

>>713651173
Weird how it's not noticable to the human eye

>>713649209
Kek'd and based.

>>713651596
no one talked about hdr itt
also sw2 display is an ips with 1:1000 contrast ratio and no miniled, so it cant do hdr.

>>713651717
>it cant do hdr.

ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND?? >>713651282

Should have bought a Steam Deck

>>713651025
It's hard to believe it's that fucking slow. I remember back when I was a kid my dad bought a laptop to use for his work. Of course I wanted to play some games on it too and the thing had a 25ms response time screen. Anything 1st or 3rd person, or action-oriented at all was basically unplayable because the image was so smeared. How can a video game console in 2025 have such a slow screen? If those numbers are real then the blur should be horrendous and immediately noticeable to anyone, even if you're not tech literate you'd simply notice something was really wrong.

>15-26 frames of ghosting
>input lag up to 2-3 seconds

Absolutely insane.

>>713651613
claiming 8k is nothing compared to all of the claims nintendo made. Nintendo made multiple claims that are not true. There's no HDR because it's an IPS panel and 99% of IPS panels can't do HDR (literally). It has the ghosting of a VA panel without the HDR that VA panel can do thanks to its higher contrast ratio than IPS. There aren't 120 fps games you can play. It's all fake, Nintendo should've just kept their mouth shut and they wouldn't be in this problem. They promised shit (lied) to their customers.

>>713651823
>20 fps + crashes and glitches

vs

4K / 60fps with zero jank, improved draw distance and no pop in

Sorry you settled for the inferior experience

>>713651936
You are ignoring the fact the bing bong wahoo box can be plugged into a TV and utilize all those features

>>713651823
>"b-but muh deck!"
>shows a picture of the first 10 seconds of the game
every time

>>713651624
Yeah the human eye can only aee 100ms or 10 fps. That's why Nintendo selected 10 frames per second for their GameChat service

>>713652056
No it can't. It doesn't support VRR for TV mode, and there are no games that support any of that other stuff, like higher framerates for 120hz or resolutions of 1440p or 2160p. Maybe HDR you can take advantage of on a TV, but not on a PC monitor (since 99% of PC monitors don't support HDR either), but other than HDR you're not getting anything from Switch 2 currently

>>713651792
Thats not hdr, that's just vibrancy settings retard.

>>713641072 (OP)
Why on earth aren't people playing these docked, with a proper TV?
I've literally NEVER used my original switch handheld because i have a bloody TV - the switch even comes with a dock.

>>713652006
>4K / 60fps with zero jank, improved draw distance and no pop in
>
The switch 2 version runs at 1440p, not 4k

>>713652223
>Thats not hdr, that's just vibrancy settings retard.

The absolute fucking state of you

>>713651282
>>713651596
Cool washed out colors bro.
>>713649209
Massive cope.
>>713652056
It literally can't use VRR on a TV, retard.
>>713652067
He also showed the worst frame imaginable because it's a locked 30fps 99.9% of the time.

>>713641072 (OP)
If it had a higher quality screen you would all be complaining that the price is too high.

>>713652354
google what hdr is

>>713651005
>obersvant

>>713649209
Why do you depict yourself as a toddler. Redraw the switch lover as an obese, autistic, 35 year old man.

>>713652345
>The switch 2 version runs at 1440p, not 4k

It's 1440p upscaled to 4K.

On a high end $4000 PC running and emulated version of TotK, it's 720p upscaled to 4K.

And it runs like shit, with crashes and glitches and worse detail and draw distance than what Switch 2 players are enjoying.

>>713651936
This is nothing new. Ps3 claimed 1080p but only 3 indiegames ran at 1080p, 95% of games ran at 640p

>>713651936
>is ISP
>VA level of smearing
lmao this is so funny, no wonder Switch users are among the lowest IQ on the few tests that we have on gamers

>>713652526
>On a high end $4000 PC running and emulated version of TotK, it's 720p upscaled to 4K.
Lmao this is what tendies actually believe. Most delusional fanbase. No matter Nintendo can keep scamming you when you dont understand the tech

>>713652704
Samsung's VA monitors for PC suffer from terrible ghosting, that's why I said it. Switch is getting all the drawbacks from a VA panel, without any of the benefits (contrast/good HDR)

>>713652704
>Randomly makes up statistics

>>713652739
When you're emulating a system, you are literally reconstituting the chipset of that system in software, warts and all.

You can run Switch emulators on a $10000 PC it will still run shitter than the $400 Switch 2.

Because you can only emulate Switch 1.

Seethe and piss and shit yourself harder.

>ITT fags that need someone to tell them the refresh rate or else they would have never noticed.
you fags cant tell the difference of 30fps, 60fps, 120 fps. No one is playing completive shooter or anything that needs high refresh rates. If this report never game out you would have NEVER NOTICED.

>>713652526
If that image isn't indicative of why game journos are worthless sellout parasites, I don't know what is.
>7.5 and 7.2 user scores
lol

>>713652812
Why did you get so defensive for no reason? I was laughing at the specs of the screen.
Ghosting is the result of shitty pixel response
https://youtu.be/AB67B8LCorI?t=150

>>713652969
>you fags cant tell the difference of 30fps, 60fps, 120 fps.
Speak for yourself visionlet.

>>713653070
Defensive? I was merely stating a fact, it's you who has some kind of agenda here

>>713652908
can't be me, learn to ask for sources in a non summerfag way
mobile and switch gamers are on the lowest rung
WatchBingo: https://archive.is/AAtrN
Royal Pand: https://archive.is/rtl46

>>713652969
>you fags cant tell the difference of 30fps, 60fps, 120 fps.
have you actually never possessed a personal computer?

>>713653147
meds

>>713653054
>user scores

Review bombed by seething snoys. As always

>>713641072 (OP)
nintendo does this on purpose so their retarded "fans" will re-buy it

Nintendo needs to be expelled from the video game industry.

Don't buy their slop.
Don't support any developer that releases on Nintendo hardware.
Push for the removal of Nintendo branding and imagery from online gaming communities elsewhere.
Challenge the false historical narrative that Nintendo "saved the industry" from the 1983 crash.
If someone around you is interested in Nintendo products, inform them of the superior alternatives, Steam Deck vs Switch, Hollow Knight vs Metroid, Hat in Time vs Mario, etc.

Don't let up when Nintendo starts making desperate moves to win people back, we need to actually make the killing blow. Together we can get rid of the cancer killing gaming for good. Whether they go bankrupt or pivot to another industry again doesn't matter.

>>713649209
Hella based

>>713649209
why did you draw the nintendo switch fan as a little kid when you and the only people buying it are all in their 30s?

>>713652362
>>713651823
>>713641072 (OP)

>>713652969
You can't be serious.. 30 fps to 120 fps is a massive difference from choppy to smooth

>>713653278
K E K

>>713649209
No, it’s extremely obvious, you just have to not be a brainwashed goy to see it.

>>713652969
>you fags cant tell the difference of 30fps, 60fps, 120 fps
Everyone can, but this isn't about fps but response time. Your point still stands though, if the switch 2 had such a "horrible" display it would've been the most talked about thing since the launch weekend. And the fact that no one has had issues with response times until this analysis really shows how little of an issue it really is.

>>713653278
Nah not happening. Zoomers and Basedlennial manchildren are too addicted to Wii/N64-era nostalgia respectively. Nintendo literally sells their nostalgia to people who want escapism, and real life just keeps getting worse and worse.

>>713653356
it's indeed a perceivable motion difference but more important it's a thing that your brain is at pain at on 30 fps, the inherent HIGH end-to-end latency that this brings into the chain
I'd sooner have 120 fps on a 30hz screen than 30fps on a 30hz.

>>713653278
>Nintendo needs to be expelled from the video game industry
This but sony

>>713651282
Kek are you still posting this? How much is Nintendo paying you?

>>713653410
>HDR LCD looks slightly worse than OLED
yeah no shit

>>713651936
>99% of IPS panels can't do HDR (literally)
What do you mean? All of them can with the right backlight, namely one with local dimming and sufficient brightness. Of course that comes with haloing in certain scenes but it can still make for a fairly nice HDR experience if the backlight isn't shit. Does the Switch 2 not have any local dimming or what?

>>713653278
uhh no? i may don't like current nintendo shekel practices but i still love the games i grew up with

>>713653356
30 to 60 yeah.

I play games with my gf and I'm constantly trying to explain 30fps/60fps.

She doesn't get it or notice it.

I do.

But 60fps vs 120fps. I can't see fuck all of a difference there and think only a certain portion of people actually will.

>>713653278
based

>>713653351
You already are or you wouldn't spam Deck hate threads all day.

>>713653486
Baby's 1st photoshop

>>713653512
>slightly
Why are you like this?

>>713653645
See >>713651282 and >>713651596

>>713653526
>but i still love the games i grew up with
Then it wouldn't affect you. All their good games are behind them.

>>713653161
>2 betting sites
>Minuscule sample size
>no study source
>no listed age brackets or breakdowns
This is about as legitimate as making shit up.

>>713653410
>you just have to put it in a specific scenario where it lags behind an OLED, and take a picture with a camera that doesn't reflect what the human eyes sees
>b-but it's blatantly obvious bro!

>>713653632
>spam Deck hate threads
Your falseflagging isn't "tendies" vro

>>713652354
anon the steam deck can also do the same thing and very much is NOT able to do HDR (unless you dock it)

>>713651596
Please kill yourself.

>>713653726
It's real actually I even have forms from the actual scientist who did the watchbingo one, this is the choice of the website to present the study they paid for however they wanted, at the end of the day it's a real study with real flesh and blood people having been tested and a battery of cognitive questions that was decent enough.
The sample is small ~100 for individual games in the watchbingo but for the switch overall it's much bigger as it includes everyone who games on a switch.
Also the distributions persisted over many years done by independent researchers, which is hilarious, the sample is more than good enough.

So all these "totally organic reviews brah" are being shat out. They usually happen right before the console sells out again or beats another record. Happened with Switch 1.

>>713649209
accurate

>>713651613
There is 1 shitty voxel game that runs at 8k so it did hit 8k once.

>>713649209
destroyed OP's asshole

>>713641072 (OP)
Almost every display is problematic in a number of ways. It's still leaps and bounds better than the first Switch's screen or the original Steam Deck's (surely the rest of the handheld market -- Legion Go, ROG, whatever -- has better examples, but I wouldn't know).

Given the price of the Switch 2 the weaknesses are grating, of course, and even if firmware can improve this it still makes one wonder why they bothered with a 120Hz display when that's never going to be a target for developers anyway. It's not like they're Retroid and using panels they can reasonably scrounge up. They surely chose all these specs.

>>713653886
Not worth $200 premium. Besides having a side by side comparison people do not notice. OLED is a meme, enjoy your screen burn in.

>>713653940
1. You're an ESL and have an obvious bias.
That aside.
>at the end of the day it's a real study with real flesh and blood people having been tested and a battery of cognitive questions that was decent enough.
It's not. 1000 people are measured in both tests. How many people are measured? How is a person with a PS5 and a Switch calculated? What are the age markers beyond "18+"? In short, where the fuck is the actual study methodology?

>>713654160
I’m sorry you will never have taste.

>>713641072 (OP)
Back for another ass raping, Eric?

The screen being crap is a deal breaker for me.
The Switch 2 is excellent for a handheld, with performance supposedly, but if the only way to get a decent image is by plugging it into the same monitor I use for my computer, then no, thanks...
I don't want to use something equivalent to a budget low-tier PC with a GTX1070ti, as a desktop device, on the same monitor I use for my high-end PC.
I hope Nintendo tries to do damage control by releasing an OLED screen soon, which would make early adopters pretty angry, by the way.

LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS! NOT WHAT YOUR MONKEY BRAIN ACTUALLY INTERPRETS! LOOK AT IT ON THE MICROSCOPIC LEVEL LOOOOOOOOOOOOK. I NOTICE!! (just because someone told me to)

>>713641072 (OP)
B-But the contrast looks great

>>713654319
Oh and before you chime in with
>You missed a word so I win
I meant how many people are measured *per platform.

>>713654340
take the cock out of your mouth while youre talking to me.

So is this iToddler going to spam his "you are owned" folder for much longer or

>>713649209
lol

>>713654160
It's not a meme, but other than proper blacks a good LCD panel will always be better than a shitty OLED. That everyone lumps all screens together is a problem; OLED isn't magic.

>>713654507
You are literally dicksucking Nintendo right now and you’re accusing me of sucking dick?

>>713648732
you'd have to be a special kind of retard to buy a console nowadays.

>>713654618
>no response, just seething

>>713654738
Yeah that's what the nonsensical babble posts about muh OLED are

>>713654642
>gargle gargle gargle
no, im saying OLED is a meme and youre a fag.

>>713654809
Saying something does not make it true. You’re a retard and a corporate cock sucker.

>>713652952
You are fucking retarded and dont know shit about computers or emulation. You can run BOTW on PC in 8k and no it's not upscaling shit, it's running natively in 8k. You have no idea what youre talking about but thats expected from luddite tendies

>>713654681
you can get a sealed ps5 for $450
a pc that can match the performance costs at the very least $1000, despite it being a 5 year old console
pc gaming is cucked beyond salvation

>>713654943
Hey talk to this guy >>713655006, he seems like a Luddite

>>713654903
i have an OLED monitor. ive seen the the switch OLED in stores. its a meme. i stand by my statement it is not worth the premium. it only looks good when you compare it to something its not. but both OLED and not in isolation it is not a big difference. how many people grab an OLED display and say "i guess it looks better" to damn many. you are the fag for sucking the cumsoomer cock paying a premium for a meme. and youre a bigger fag because you dont see this.

>>713641072 (OP)
>make a handheld that's awful as a handheld
Why bother?

>>713655269
The difference between us is you’re a blind, likely poor, faggot with no taste. I don’t know how you can dismiss perfect blacks and vibrant colors as “not worth it” unless you just have literally no sense of aesthetics.

>>713655006
lol
you can literally get a laptop cheaper than the switch 2 with better performance

>>713655416
>Uuuuuuuuuuuuu perfect blacks vibrant colors i definitely dont like cocks in my mouth.

>>713641072 (OP)
don't care, still buying it

>>713654370
>I don't want to use something equivalent to a budget low-tier PC with a GTX1070ti
Switch 2 is more like a 1050, but with tensor cores

>>713641518
ugly niggers ought to have be self conscious and not show their fugly mug on camera. that said, as a nintendo fan I'd love nothing more than modern ninty to go under

>>713655385
The leading theory so far is that switch 2 is meant to played exclusively on docked mode
2nd is that tendies have a superpower that allows them to see pixels slower than other, weaker humans which makes the display tolerable to use.

I get the big sad when people make fun of the Steam Deck. Maybe I should jack off to Blacked porn to make myself feel better...

tendie samefags are pathetic

>>713654809
Funny how oled was anything but and constantly used to shitpost against the deck when nintendo had it, but the moment they took it away and started raw dogging their users it became a meme.

>>713657257
steamie chud

>>713649209
I accept your admission that you're a moron.

It's over

>>713658087
maybe nintendo makes the display have 3 times faster display through a update or something

>>713641072 (OP)
So what?
Nintendo doesn't give a fuck because the millions of RETARDs that lined up to buy that shit on launch didn't give a fuck.
Why would nintendo waste money on a feature that their own costumers clearly don't care?
If you care about this, don't fucking buy the shit.