Thread 713644484

What happens if I design a TCG game not about buying 5000k cards from newer packs, but a simple 300 cards deck instead like how poker has fixed cards?

>>713644484 (OP)
It would be extremely painful.

MTG did this. It's the duel of the plainswalkers series. 2015 had around 350 unique cards once you account for dlc.

>>713644484 (OP)
that would be a flop

>>713645207
Selettrice's humongous ASS!

Sex With Purrely!!!
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX!!!

>>713647189
Selettrice's humongous everything.

You get a flop like Keyforge

>>713644484 (OP)
I think low variety would work against this kind of product just because by having a bunch of different cards, you can appeal to many more types of players. Also, people who like to play card games appreciate variety. Poker or chess appeal to players who like to work in a system that they know is complete, and appreciate the chance for mastery. This impulse exists in more competitive players of TCGs but most players want to be able to experiment with a bunch of different decks.

Will Branded survive the Ryzeal/Maliss drop?

>>713649702
Of course it will. In Gold.

I'M SEETHING

>>713644484 (OP)
>What if I made a TCG without the T?
It's called a LCG.

>>713652248
here you go

>>713644484 (OP)
hearthstone had 382 cards on launch and it was beautiful

>>713644484 (OP)
Pokemon is the most reasonable pricewise. Higher rarity cards are just regular cards with alt art.

>>713644484 (OP)
Why would anyone trade them if there’s 300 of them? The whole point of TCGs is to exploit consumers by selling packs with random cards.

Purrely Horny Memory

>>713644484 (OP)
the the gfuck you going to 'trade'??

the 'TRADE' part is important for TRADING card games

>>713653840
a pokemon deck is on the hundreds of dolars
so is magic

yugioh might be bloat but the bloat make it REALY cheap
you can build a realy good deck cause there are MANY good decks out there
i still play cyber dragons
from 15 years ago

>>713644484 (OP)
not really "T" CG than

>>713644484 (OP)
make it with collectable plushes

>>713653417
There should be a comic where DMG gets a bit plumper with each card named Dark Magician that hits the GY.

>>713644484 (OP)
there was one that did that. pretty sure it flopped

>>713644484 (OP)
I wont like it i will view it as small scale and limited without varied types. Honestly hate the new wave of steam games that are "card battlers" or "deck builders" it just strikes me as pathetic you all think youre gonna reinvent the wheel and its just embarassing

>>713644484 (OP)
Blade Rondo

>>713653108
Is that new shaddoll support?

>>713659916
No, they haven't announced Terminal World 3 yet. That's just Galatea.
Anyway, Oohime alt art.

>>713660139
>No
Sad. I would come back to this game to play more with my winda.

>>713654560
At least you can buy magic cards. Buying new pokemon cards is next to impossible. The cost of decks in mtg is not really a problem either, due to limited sealed formats being popular and viable. Booster drafts just flat out dont work in pokemon, for example, and require a bunch of added rules to cheat a bit to make it work.

>>713644484 (OP)
In a vacuum this is how TCGs are already, there's 5000 cards but you really only use 150 of them in a competitive setting
In reality, card fillers work because it gives casuals something to collect and people who are bored of efficiency something else to play
so yeah DOA

>>713647189
Her tits are bigger

>>713652248
made for BWC

>>713644484 (OP)
It kinda happens already with some TCGs that have 9001 cards but "the meta" uses like 300.
The main problem I see is that your game would only have one meta forever, essentially being a solved game. Everyone would just use the single best deck possible made from that 300 card pool and that's it, it turns into a purely RNG-fueled game where whoever gets the win condition out first wins.
In other TCGs, by adding cards regularly they make sure the meta changes and the game survives (and also they can sell a crapton of shitty cards for massive profit), this obviously comes with a lot of disadvantages for the players like power creep, unusable bulk, formats, etc. but as long as the money keeps coming that's fine for the companies. There's also the huge gambling factor.

>>713660139
hot

There are tons of stand-alone card games in which all the cards necessary for gameplay are purchased at once.

>>713664001
Infinity wars e.g.

All cards free, pay colored animated versions. Great gameplay and deck building, peak of the genre imo, no players because no twitch esports shit =)

boring shit that makes it easier to card count
the folly of TCGs is that the devs need to sell new cards and the easiest way to do it is to make them better than old cards

>>713644484 (OP)
with a set amount of cards people will zone in on what the most effective ones are and then depending on the rules the game will either turn into people conceeding turn 2 when they realize the other guy drew the good cards and you didn't, or it'll be two people running the exact same cards and ignoring the rest

Fuck this shit game I'm mahjong now

>>713664923
Same except I'm now playing Bombergirl. I even stopped playing in IRL too because I'm so sick of 20 handtrap decks, dealing with two different ash blossoms on top of dealing with normal ash too, and bullshit turn skip cards (three different maxx c and droll and lock bird). Using Vernusylph was already bad enough with the whole "opening spells and traps can brick you" and the best earth monster GY effect is fucking Dotscraper, but with all these bullshit 20 handtrap decks running around I can't even play. It wouldn't surprise me with they print Dimension Shifter 2 or Droll and Lock Bird 2 or hilarious enough another Ash Blossom card. Call me in a few more years when they print new Charmer support (which will undoubtedly be as good for their deck as the Channelers did)

>>713644484 (OP)
> What happens if I design a TCG game not about buying 5000k cards from newer packs, but a simple 300 cards deck instead like how poker has fixed cards?
You get a deck-building game.

>>713644484 (OP)
That's a board game

>>713669696
>filename
Impostor!

>>713670739
Eh?

>>713644484 (OP)
DMG is the only duel monster I need

>>713676264
>Longirsu smiling
Get this off model shit out of here

>>713676503
:)

I really really want a card game that has the depth of something like magic but it is NOT based around card collecting or constant expansions.

I feel like there's a lot of room for a digital only card game that's actually focused on solid balance and instead of constant expansions that power creep new cards, cards get balance patches and expansions give support for new deck types or w/e.

Hearthstone does do balancing but it still has retarded expansions, it has rotating cards, etc. I hate it. I hate magic because of the constant fucking expansions and card collecting and how many cards that come out are either draft chaft or the exact same effects as previous cards but either outright better, some bonus effect that is only there for draft relevancy, or in some cases a WORST version of a well known effect. Then the card collecting which stifles brewers who don't want to grind/pay out the ass. Real life costs also affect the game in a lot of various negative ways.

SHIT SUCKS and it COULD be improved but every competitive card game that comes out feels like it HAS to stick to these "standards". I feel like there's SO much you can do with the card format but nobody is interested in doing it and obviously im just one guy so I can't do it myself

>Despia field vs Palabyrinth field
sick as fuck

>>713666314
this doesn't look like a robot

>>713654560
>a pokemon deck is on the hundreds of dolars
No it isn't retard. Pokemon decks are absurdly cheap for a TCG. You can make competitive decks for 40 bucks

>>713660523
>Buying new pokemon cards is next to impossible
Buying cards is piss easy and cheap. Buying packs is nigger aids

>>713666314
>>713669105
>>713669696
>>713671124
>>713673807
>>713676264
>>713677046
Reminder that robopussu won

>>713681005
She's still a machine but she was made by the will of the planet instead of being designed and built by Girsu like her past iteration.
A bit more of a golem/elemental than a robot nowadays.

>>713682267
>can give birth

>>713644484 (OP)
You'd make your entire run's worth of money on the crowdfunding site, and lose attention from the boardgame crowd the moment the next shiny toy appeared.

>>713644484 (OP)
Do it. You can make a kickstarter that just covers the base production cosst and than sell off the extras.

>try to suicide
>asshats surrender when they see Im about to derank
why are meta sheep such sweaty faggots

>>713652248
ere ya go

>>713644484 (OP)
built for Karate Man

>>713644484 (OP)
Man I fuckin love DMG

>>713683913
>>713666930
Havent seen these games in like a decade.

Master Duel is not a bad game, TCGfags are just salty they've dumped tens of thousands of dollars into this game

You NIGGAS were here the whole time?
At least put the game's name in the file name