What's the point in using Linux, when they do shit like this? It's clearly much safer to stay on Windows.

>>713646176 (OP)
Try using good software next time instead of shit literally "maintained" by indians
>t. Arch Desktop + Steam OS CHAD

Fedora is one distro

>>713646350
>Arch
it insists upon itself

>>713646176 (OP)
same reason people go into lgbt

>>713646350
>use linux!
>nooooo not that distro!
Ever. Time.

>>713646896
>Ever. Time.
>how do you do fellow nazis amirite, saar?
kys you retarded pajeet

>>713648397
Linux is literally made by Indian troons

>>713648474
>2 INR was deposited to your windows live account

>>713646176 (OP)
>safer
Interesting word choice.

Ehm, what's the point of removing 32bit support in the first place? It's probably a few kb at most and it doesn't hurt anyone.
Is there a real meaningful reason from a technical standpoint?

>>713646176 (OP)
Linux is good but it has some bad apples like Redhat, Gnome, Fedora, Wayland and Flatpak. We get XLibre so it's all healing.

>>713648754
its just how they are they did the same thing with xorg to force people on wayland

>>713648754
Pajeets don't understand how to continue supporting it. Simple as. Fedora is corporate software.

>>713646176 (OP)
>using Linux
ok
>they do shit like this
Linux isn't doing this, retarded gaylord. Bazzite picked a shitty base distro and Fedora is pozzed as shit. if (You) cant even level your accusations at the proper root cause of your distress, (You) deserve to stay on Spyware 11.
t. Xubuntu Chad

>>713648754
time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

>>713649021
>and Flatpak
wut now
it's been super convenient to supplement apps on Mint

>>713648754
>It's probably a few kb at most
You're off by a few orders of magnitude. It's a few gb of libraries or so.

>>713649486
>multiple gbs
That's what my base linux clocks at, so everything is for 32bit support? Lmao.
>>713649319
Can't you just change the date time format to 64 and keep 32 support?

>>713649021
At this point you should already have noticed how several actors in the Linux ecosystem tend to go out of their way specifically to sabotage it whenever there may a chance of seeing a large number of normies adopt it.

>>713646350
>Arch
let me guess you have those rainbow programmer socks

>distro maintained by one guy shuts down
never could have seen this coming

>>713649925
>mindreading
seek help for your BPD psychosis

>>713650069
meanwhile, SparkyLinux's gaming-focused distro maintained by one guy still going strong

>>713650090
why is every arch user a tranny?

>>713646176 (OP)
>bazzite
Meme distro, just install arch

>>713646176 (OP)
>posted it again award
this is literal fake news

>>713646365
And all of them are filled with bugs, missing features, and jank. Worthless for the desktop and not 100% compatible for gaming or people who have real jobs.

>>713649852
>everything is a conspiracy
Imagine embarrassing yourself like this.

>installing meme distros

You have only yourself to blame

>>713649852
giga based

>>713649852
Care to speculate why that may be? Is it some kind of humiliation ritual?

>>713650069
Slackware is maintained by one guy, and that has been going for over 30 years.

>>713650529
I kind of get it though.
Like I probably wouldn't bother installing anything but Arch or Debian, but I get why people would want something that's all configured for them.

>>713650458
>filled with bugs, missing features, and jank
Woah just like windows 11

>>713646176 (OP)
>Guys Linux is scary because sometimes Linux dsitributions make changes that might require adjustments
Uh-huh, sit down and let's have a chat about Windows...

>>713650458
>people who have real jobs
Can we just be honest and say slaves instead?

>>713646176 (OP)
I've never even heard of Bazzite so it must be some meme tranny shit

>>713650685
Preconfigured Fedora distribution meant to mimic SteamOS

>>713650615
It makes sense, but this shit ALWAYS happens and its the result of developing double downstream, if your distro isnt just ARCH/DEBIAN with a couple of special arguments then this shit WILL happen. Otherwise you become manjaro which is like Arch but fucked up

i hope other distros don't feel like they can copy fedora because linux (contrary to "popular" belief) has excellent backwards compatibility and it would be great if it stayed that way

I never understood why Bazzite used Fedora as its base distro anyway.

>>713650659
Dunno dude all my work soft has worked perfectly since W7. Meanwhile I have to program aliases to change environments to keep using an image viewer I like in loonyx because lol no u can't install Wheel 5.something and Wheel 10.something at the same time you silly goose.

>>713650685
Tranny shit always on your mind it seems

>>713650893
Most of the time, it's just what the devs were using at the time they decided to make a fork.
Mint quite literally only used Ubuntu for this reason and they're slowly migrating to just Debian.

>>713650893
I think the guy who made it is an IBM/RedHat employee. So it was what he was most familiar with. I think it was meant to show off how easy it was to make a custom distro using silverblue.

That's what you get for building your meme off of Fedora.

>>713651474
And what was the meme?

>>713651840
bot response

>>713650458
so like Windows

>>713646896
Yes anon, it's a jungle out there. If you don't want to play in M$OFT's or applel's box, you will have to use your brain and realise that things like Bazzite are hot memes.

>>713646176 (OP)
>fotm meme distro shuts down as soon as creator gets a real job
stop the presses

>>713650893
Because redhat is the leading force behind linux development. Kinda obvious, duh.

>>713650620
Like?

>>713646176 (OP)
Ubuntu, the most supported, just works. I don't know why it's even a debate.

>>713653456
Ubuntu is slow as shit.

>>713646176 (OP)
You made a thread to complain about an operating system you don't use and a problem that does not effect you.
You are mentally ill, please seek help.

>>713653456
>Ads in terminal
Anyone who use Ubuntu is a retard

>I'm speaking as it's founder
its*

>>713653630
>oh no I lost 5ms of my time
Get better hardware broke ass
>>713653757
Like?

>>713646603
>X11 is for nazis
shit I thought trannyland was just a meme lmao

>>713653757
>Ads in terminal
lol you can't be serious

>>713646176 (OP)
I seriously don't know why people are willing to suffer with such a problematic OS, your maintainers can have some sissy drama and boom your distro can be terminated, just baffling instead of just getting better hardware and windows

>>713653830
>>713653912

Steam can still be ran on linux without 32 bit support using Flatpaks. Its basically like a mini little environment you can have inside your OS and you just store steam and all the games (with proton support) inside of it.

https://flatpak.org/

>>713654027
Seriously, it's far safer to stick to Windows. At least you know what you'll get. Linux is just unpredictable and dangerous.

>>713654027
>i can just spend 50 hours jumping distros checkmate m$/aplel

>>713654084
thank god i dont use ubuntu then ez pz. just use fedora or arch

I can't use a distro unless the name and logo are aesthetically pleasing to me. Fedora amuses me so it's the one I use.

>>713654084
damn not even microsoft is that bold

>>713654218
The fedora logo is very aesthetically pleasing.

>BAZZite
>flops

>>713654084
That's it? I don't give a fuck then, and if it really bothers someone here, just do : sudo pro config set apt_news=false

>>713654084
The fuck is Ubuntu Pro? Isn't the whole point to be open source and free as in freedom bears?

>>713654240
Microsoft preinstalls shitware, pipe down fag

>>713654138
>>713654027
Because every single new version of windows comes with
>more bloatware
>more spyware (now we are getting into kernal level spyware with TPM THAT LITERALLY CANNOT BE TURNED OFF BECAUSE ITS INSIDE YOUR CPU)
>more enshittification
>less personalization
>more ads
>more microsoft telling you what you are allowed to do with your machine

im not swapping to 11. 10 will be my final hurah with windows and its sad to see just how far it has fallen. Ive been using it since xp.. i lived through vista.. i saw it get better with 7.. only to shit the bed again with 8 (8.1 was still shit). 10 is garbage and i hate it for being so bloated and filled with telemetry spyware that you cant turn off and now 11 is 100x worse.

I cannot believe anyone who isnt a shill would unironically defend windows now that we know TPM exists. They LITERALLY PAID CPU MANUFACTURERS TO PUT HARDWARE SPYWARE INTO ALL NEW CPUS SO THAT THEY CAN ALWAYS SPY ON YOU. WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND.

All these niggas glowin
>safer
>stay on windows
LoL

>>713654159
No linux is just shit and not ready even with those big improvements, commercial software will always be better and have a better quality and support. Fellow anon says everything in picrel

>>713654240
how is that a gotcha lmao, windows isn't the system that claim to be pro privacy and anti ads

>>713654551
>im not swapping to 11
Yeah, right. You said that with 10. And with 8. Just admit you'll upgrade eventually, instead of continuing this cycle.
>Windows 12 is awful, 11 is my final Windows I swear it!

>>713654598
what a good little goy shilling for microsoft

>>713654551
Get a Mac and a PS5 Pro then, ever since I got them my pcs just been collecting dust. I’ve never played this much before on a pc compared to how much I game on the PS5 now.

>>713654772
I don't give a fuck about Niggersoft or Fagpple, it's just better and your homo hobby OS will go nowhere

>>713654767
Not him but Windows objectively peaked with 7 and 8 was the first bad sign it's gonna be shit. 11 is like much worse than 10. Literally made by people who can't code.

>>713654598
That post made me wonder, are Fedora and Debian literally the only distros worth using?

>>713654767
nope. ive got fedora+kde plasma desktop on a usb stick and im going to install it tommorow after transffering all my important docs to my other hard drive. you literally cannot stop me. i never said i was swapping to linux before. in fact i never thought i would. but this is literally the last straw. i get it, you are willing to put up with more shit than i am. you can fit a larger dick inside of your asshole before it starts to get uncomfortable. i almost envy you. my anus obviously is not stretchy enough to accomodate the nonstop fucking of microsft and i need a break. you keep them busy for me ok? keep that bussy primed and loose for them

>>713646176 (OP)
>Bazzite
No reason to not use SteamOS

>>713654956
Fedora Ubuntu Debian, literally the most serious and professional distros that are at least the most stable among that shitshow that is troonux, everything else is a meme and people defending it are faggots

linux is normalfag shit now thoughbeit
i keep getting linuxslop in my youtube recommended lately and its all just zoomer women ricing their shit now
linux is already known for being for trannies and there are women now too? why the fuck would i switch to that gay shit

>>713654991
>i-im installing it t-t-tomorrow i s-swear!

>>713655241
keep coping and seething ranjit no one cares about microsoft anymore.

Didn't Ubuntu try to do the same thing and got told to fuck off, or did I just dream that?

>>713654991
You'll realize what a mistake that is.

>>713655347
>posted from my Microsoft®™ machine

>>713655153
What's wrong with ricing? Windows used to have themes and customization too, you zoomie.

>>713654991
Please make a thread about how shitty Troonux is tomorrow

>>713654767
>held out on 7 as long as I could
>now Gentoo is my daily driver

>>713646176 (OP)
>Relying on corponigger software
you fuckers had it coming. People have been warning everyone about RedHat shitting on the whole linux ecosystem for decades now.
You have 3 realistic choices if you don't want to get assfucked in the next 5 years. Arch Nix and Debian. Even that is debatable. And no gentoo is not an opion as it is being absorbed from the inside by alphabet.
>>713650493
It's no conspiracy. It's just corpos using their influence to steer linux in a direction that suits them and nobody else. Just look and the linux foundation members and the two largest distributors of commercial linux distors and tell me these people value their consumers let alone the linux ecosystem at all.

>>713655153
>linux is already known for being for trannies and there are women now too? why the fuck would i switch to that gay shit
So are videogames. You know what to do.

>>713655882
>gentoo is not an opion as it is being absorbed from the inside by alphabet
What the hell are you talking about?

>>713649198
y'all niggas dont even know

>>713655882
The founder of Debian was assassinated.

>>713656093

>>713655940
i havent played video james in a decade

so what's a good distro to use?

>>713656067
>He doesn't know
The founder left years ago. In the meantime google employees took over leadership and started shitting all over the project (google uses gentoo as a base for chromeOS).
When the founder came back he was kicked out and was so disgusted with the direction of the project he started to develop his own fork called funtoo. He had to give up on it later on.
>>713656141
Holy shit lmao

>>713646176 (OP)
Death to Fedora and its users!

>>713654138
yeah, you know you'll get all sorts of telemetry that Microsoft then sells to the government

>>713654240
Microsoft puts links to surveys in powershell

>>713656141
Nah he killed himself like a lot of tranny linux maintainers, I can't believe this is a serious OS to switch on

>>713655393
Several years ago, yeah.

https://canonical.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts

>>713656807
>Murdock died on December 28, 2015, in San Francisco.[12][13][14] Though initially no cause of death was released,[15][16] in July 2016 it was announced his death had been ruled a suicide.[17][18] The police confirmed that the cause of death was due to asphyxiation caused by hanging himself with a vacuum cleaner electrical cord.[19][20]

kek you seriously expect me to believe this nigga strangled himself with a fucking electrical cord?

>>713646176 (OP)
When will Volvo make the Steam client 64 bit and just bundle whatever 32bit shit they need in their client?

They already do this exact thing for other libraries.

>>713656998
Yeah, in fact with any strong cord like a PSU or hdmi cable

>>713656772
Expected of M$
And also, I don't need to use Powershell for literally everything.

>>713650775
Ah, so I was right then.

>>713650893
The list of non-meme immutable distros is extremely small

>>713656384
Mint or Arch

>>713658682
>Mint
Ubuntu based. Subject to the same kind of issues that plague bazzite because of this.

>>713650893
Why not?

>>713658781
aren't they migrating to Debian

>>713658845
I don't know anything about that. Can't seem to find anything relevant on the official blog either

can i pirate ableton on linux? i know you can get davinci resolve working on linux despite them only officially supporting two random unknown distros, and you can fuck with audio enough to make a modern audio interface work, but what even is software on linux? i assume it isnt using exes or some shit. im pretty much happy to switch at any point but idk shit about software on linux, and i steal literally everything i use unless its 100% free, but ableton is a must for me. should i just dual boot? iirc vsts and shit are kind of fucky on linux, and i use a ton of cracked shit. i could just use windows for production and linux for everything else i guess.

>>713658781
>>713658845
Mint has always kept a Debian-based version available just in case they need to bail from Ubuntu for any reason.

>>713658781
Still one of the better starter distros for retards though as it's the closest to "just werks like windows".

>>713658845
Just another download they do for some reason. Can't imagine they'd suddenly shift to debian with all of the noob users they have and effectively force them back onto windows.

>>713659243
nvm ignore this entire autistic post

>>713659418
>>713659294
Alright then I rescind my statement.
I don't see how debian is less normie friendly that ubuntu. They are essentially the same thing.

>>713659243
I've got dumber reading this

>>713660030
thats actually just the feeling of getting smarter, you are initially confused by my genius but when you are in the shower tomorrow you shall have an epiphany and my covert excellence will dawn on you

>>713659759
Basically Ubuntu and especially Mint "just werk" better than debian out of the box and looks/works more like Windows which for normies is a big deal. For vidya steam does all of the heavy lifting so it's a matter of getting Nvidia drivers and steam installed which from what I remember is much easier on Ubuntu.

>>713659243
most windows software nowadays just werks on linux thanks to wine, proton and protonGE
there are a few ways of getting them to work but i usually just add the .exe to steam as a non-steam-game, then in properties and compatibility, set the proton version i want it to use.

google around, with a big piece of software like ableton i'm sure there are always a few other people who have tried just that on their distros.
for example, this guy got it working on endeavourOS
https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/ableton-live-10-working-awesome-in-wine/11330

but yeah, apart from that it might also be a good idea to dualboot linux and windows. so you can fall back to windows for the few programs that won't work on linux no matter what

>>713646176 (OP)
This is why i tell new users to never run either a testground distro like Fedora or a fork maintained by one guy/small team but of course they never listen.

>>713654027
I used to think like that. Why go through the hassle of using a "unstable" OS, right?
However, one day microsoft decide to insert fucking FAGGOT flags into my desktop without my consent.
I worked for the IT department in a very blue-collar company. People used to have a view of my screen sometimes.
I don't live in fucking california or a first-world distopia where people think this shit is acceptable. I'm glad nobody saw that shit.
That was the day I installed linux and have never looked back.
Linux also gave me some pretty useful skills and and I have a way better job now.
Fuck microsoft and fuck normie cattle.

>>713661275
Literally NOTHING is happening you fucking right

>I was right all along!
You literally weren't

>>713662131
>you fucking right
retard*

>>713648754
A waste of fucking resources, I hope every distro kills them off already. Shiteem has its own runtime with 32 shit anyway, people can compile their shit against them.

Arch has already started to shit on 32 too by the way, the default wine package is WOW64 without any 32 bit dependencies whatsoever

>>713662448
>muh bloat
eat a dick

>>713649764
>Can't you just change the date time format to 64 and keep 32 support?
linux (and any other OS for that matter) has certain data structures to keep time, these are incompatible between 32 and 64 bits. the amount of effort to keep backwards compatibility would require massive rewrites in everything that depends on time, which is pretty much everything. you can't realistically expect that to be maintained in an opensource community

You realize windows doesn't have 32 bit anymore either, right? Its been emulated for years.

>>713662131
>>713662303
dumb phoneposter

>Linux is good because it's not a monopoly, there are multiple distros you can use if one gets fucky
>using anything other than Arch is a meme, stop being stupid
lol

>>713660914
>most windows software nowadays just werks on linux thanks to wine
Lying tranny. kys

>>713664503
Retarded faggot. If you remove the 32 bit stuff like your retarded overlords want to, you will literally not be able to open the steam package that is in your distro's repos you retarded nigger.

>>713665492
It's all bullshit. Linux is standardized to the every minute component. 99% distros in the ecosystem use the same c library, the same coreutils, the systemd suite. Not only is it a monopoly but all your packages come from a centralized source, it's bad when jewgle does it by the way. The only freedom you get is the freedom to chose a desktop environment. Swapping components is improbable because of everything depending on each other, the dependency hell. And yeah if you wanna see how shitty it really is you can look at arch. You get all the latest software, but the cracks of the package management start to show. A single dependency update not on testing can nuke multiple programs, so you have to downgrade it and the programs that it nuked. It's because linux package managers only support a single version of a library and/or program installed on your system. There is constant manual intervention required, like the recent linux-firmware package. The package manager is so basic that it cannot uninstall a package and the install the new one, it can only upgrade to the latest version automatically. It's garbage made by incompetent trannies that haven't figured out the basics like package management for three decades, so they waste time with lts releases and are trying to cut their work by purging shit without a "usecase" in their feeble tranny minds.

>>713666568
a fun little niggle I learnt about Arch is you literally cannot update it if the version you have is too old. You have to wipe the install and redo it from scratch.

>>713666982
It's actually the archlinux-keyring package that you have to update first manually before you can -Syu. Arch is made by retarded faggots and used by 0.5% of current archfags. 99% of archfags are tourists that use it until they distrohop when they need to go to the tty to debug shit.

>>713646176 (OP)
My Windows10 killed himself with update bomb and loop boot + random shutdown shit fuck evil Microsoft

>>713667163
I didn't have this issue. I used archinstall btw.

>>713666568
All wrong btw

>>713666568
all correct btw. and i use musl, busybox, and openrc. it still stinks, but at least I can have statically linked binaries

>>713667236
>I didn't have this issue.
Don't update your system for a couple of months and try -Syu --devel before doing -S archlinux-keyring.

>>713667514
> -S command not found
lel

>>713668552
Yeah use goyman or your aur helper, that's just a useflag.

>>713668628
>use your splingplab on your floglebas,
will do

>>713648754
>It's probably a few kb at most and it doesn't hurt anyone.
You sure sound like you now what you're talking about.

>>713656093
>>713656158
Hot, I may draw some lurid images of this dinosaur.

>>713666568
You make me sad.

I, for one, think that Linux should follow on the steps of macOS, and drop 32-bit support. Just like when glibc finally killed DT_HASH.

>>713646896
sad but true

>>713646176 (OP)
Loonix has been troon cosed for a decade now. Ever since that programmer socks meme

>>713646176 (OP)
I couldn't give a shit about Linux until they fix mouse acceleration and mouse auto-scroll.
It's been broken for 20 years and will remain broken for another 20 years at this rate..

@713674214
>until they fix mouse acceleration
What the fuck is this schizo babble

>>713674214
You can literally turn it off even on Wayland

>>713646176 (OP)
RedHat is sabotaging the Linux desktop because they don't want competitors entering the market and eating their share.
Imagine for second what happens when Linux gets 30% marketshare and all big corporations (including MS) decide to enter.

>>713676029
MS already has a Linux distro

>>713646176 (OP)
Linux is literally full of actual leftoids, they throw tantrums every 10 or so days, why do you think that shit never advances and there are so many fucking distros.

>>713676029
BTW, average RedHat affiliated dev
https://web.archive.org/web/20250624142301/https://blogs.gnome.org/alatiera/2025/06/23/the-fascist-maggots/

Just use windows if you are mentally stable

>>713646896
two main distro's suggested for new linux users are mint and ubuntu, not fedora. You're complaining about something that should ideally not touch you as a new linux user.

>>713676185
They are not serious about desktop for desktop activities the average PC user does.
They have WSL but that's for attracting the devs back since windows sucks for software development.

>>713646603
a natural consequence of a free and open source project is that the mentally unwell will also join, especially nowadays with the autistic community being gaslit into becoming trans and progressive. This doesn't change that it's leagues better than microsoft having its entire microscope rammed up your ass watching every undulation.

>>713676517
The mentally ill have build their own fortified community with the help of the corporations that rule them and don't let anyone sane in. They even don't let other mentally ill fags because they are not mentally ill enough, hyprland and Pop_OS (cosmic devs) are good example.

>>713654551
>They LITERALLY PAID CPU MANUFACTURERS TO PUT HARDWARE SPYWARE INTO ALL NEW CPUS SO THAT THEY CAN ALWAYS SPY ON YOU. WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND.
Qrd? I did not know about this.

>>713676728
hopefully they stay in their fortresses then. Or see reason.

>>713646896
You can use any distro you want, just install the packages you need. It's no different from installing windows programs.

>>713646176 (OP)
>not using an Arch/Arch-based distro.
Valve uses Arch and you should as well.

Linux is worthless for actual normal use, and only really good for very specialized, custom fit applications, or for fucking around with as a hobby. ESPECIALLY whichever special snowflake configuration you're using. Unfortunately, the only real alternative is bloated with mandatory, unremovable malware.

Commercially available computers were a mistake. Magic should be left to the actual wizards that studied it, not left in the hands of peasants.

>>713680256
>the only real alternative is bloated with mandatory, unremovable malware.
hence why linux is the only real option left. If I had a choice, windows7 would still be my primary O/S, but it's too dated, and the app to update it for win8/10 apps likely cant make up for how dated it is, so linux is the next best alternative.