>this is the new GPU sweet spot
When will prices come back down to planet earth?

>>713664119 (OP)
Is there any game worth buying?

>>713664119 (OP)
Never, nvidia doesnt care about gaming because they make trillions from AI. you either buy one or you dont and amd just slots in where nvidia decides the pricing should be.

How much does it cost to make a 5080?

>>713664524
about 3 fiddy

I remember when a midrange card that lasted years was like $300

>>713664119 (OP)
There is no gpu sweet spot you retard. Nvidia only sells shit.

>>713664119 (OP)
Hey, you voted for this. I wanted some Kamala pussy.

>>713664119 (OP)
It will only happen if AMD or Intel kicks Nvidia's ass for a couple generations

5070 ti is the sweet spot.

5080 is spending hundreds more on almost no gain from the 5070 ti

If it had 24gb vram it would be probably the best enthusiast grade, but the crippled it with only 16gb

>>713664119 (OP)
nvidia hasn't been a gpu in 5 years, all they make is ai shit cards.

9080xt will change the world

>>713664119 (OP)
>prices coming back down

>>713666010
there will be no 9800xt

>>713665409
This. Even a mere improvement to 18GB would improve proompting a lot.

>>713666753
>tfw got my 5090 in the 1-day window when the price dropped by 400 dollars

>>713666823
>narrator: there was, in fact, a 9800XT

It's not really the sweet spot if it's unaffordable, is it?

>>713664119 (OP)
>When will prices come back down to planet earth?
Never. And with China invading Taiwan next year, you better be prepared for GPU's like these skyrocketing in price to 2500 Dollars.

>16gb
Fuck that noise

>>713664119 (OP)
>GPU sweet spot

>>713664119 (OP)
>getting roughly the same fps in Call of Duty as a PS5 Pro at the same settings rough equivalent

>prices coming down
>in this AI booming era
Just get a used 1080ti or something

>>713665409
This unironically.

>>713666890
>he thinks he still wasnt scammed

>>713664119 (OP)

My 7900 XTX will last me till 2030-2032. By that time either the AI bubble will burst or I will stop playing vidya entirely. Not my problem.

>>713668135
That card is barely relevant now. It doesnt even have the power to run GTA 6 on release.

>>713664632
And I remember when a cheeseburger was 99 cents.

>>713664420
Video games?

>5080
>16GB card for $1200

OP is so retarded he managed to pick the worst card in the line up after the 5060 Ti 8GB

>>713668741
OP is just a shill. He has no thoughts of his own just what his boss tells him.

>>713664119 (OP)
i have a 3090. both 4080 and 5080 lack vram so im screwed unless i want to pay like $2000 to upgrade. guess im staying here

did anyone ever make an update version of the console cuck chart ?

>>713664119 (OP)
>this is the new GPU sweet spot
nigger please I paid 400 for mine.

>>713669002
Actually digital foundry said the 6700 is a close match for the base PS5 and even the base PS5 has more VRAM. Try again. Articles have also stated to match or beat a PS5, a 2080s or 3060ti would be required. Also, a 5090 cannot run GTA 6.

>>713669002
>worse than consolecuck
I actually own my games though

>>713664119 (OP)
Never. Mining and covid fucked things badly. AI guarantees it'll never come down because businesses spend more than your gamer.

>>713667957
Still has the die and vram attached so apparently not

>GPU
the future is now , old man

>>713669435
>Yo dawg, I heard you like Ace combat

Still running my 3080 and at 1440p it’s perfectly fine. I’m sure somebody can pull up an example of a shit Sony port that needs more VRAM but I’ve never played it.


9070XTs are slowly getting into their actual MSRP. Consistently hitting $699 now, give it a few more weeks

>>713668483
I remember the summer daycamp snack bar having Airheads for 10 cents each
FUCK inflation

>>713669002
This image is retarded because the 3070 lacks the vram to beat the ps5 and belongs in the red.

>>713670027
>went to mcdonalds for breakfast today cause I haven't had it in ages
>a mcgriddle combo was 10 dollars

There's no games worth playing that require anything above 2080.
I'm likely going to be using my 3060ti for at least another 5 years at this rate.

>>713670117
>mcdonalds
>two small cheeseburgers, fries and a drink is like $17 now
>five guys
>burger, fries and drink is $20
FUCK
at least there's a little family owned chinese place down the street that still has good prices; can get two meals worth of chicken and rice for $11

>>713669415
>he doesnt know msrp already is a x2 hike in price
>he thinks he got a deal because of $400

>>713664119 (OP)
>999 sweetspot
fuck off jensen

>>713670278
>used to have a trick at jack in the box where I could get two chicken sandwiches, 2 tacos, and a value fries and it came out to 6 dollars even
>that same thing now would probably be 12 bucks
But same, a local family owned Chinese place has a two entree plate for 11 bucks and they stuff it excessively

>>713669792
>actual MSRP
Noice. Currently on a 3080ti so not sure if worth it. Last I checked, it's like a 30% uplift in performance but my memory may be fucked on that.

>>713664524
Nvidia has like a 70-80% profit margin, they sell the chip and whatever to their AIB partners for around $500-$600, which then sells the card for $1k

>sweet spot

>>713671230

It’s more of a safety bet. With my base 3080 10GB I’m probably not far from the card being unable to play new games. I can sell it for half the price of a 9070xt before it’s completely worthless like 8GB cards

5090 for $2500 yes or no?

>>713672342
if you gotta ask you can't afford it

>>713671442
Nah Nvidia has a 100% margin minimum

>>713664420
i just bought a 3k gaming PC but i've mostly just been playing mario kart world. the last pc game i played for a bit was maybe last of us 2 remastered part 2

there hasn't been a new PC game in like 5 years

death stranding is the last one i can think of

Aren't GPUs more expensive because the dies are so much bigger than they used to be?

>>713670526
400 dollars less is still better than 0 dollars less.
Besides it was still cheaper than both the 3090 and 4090 when they released, so it's still a win regardless.
Now...about that 10k dollar RTX 6000....

>999$
>price BEFORE taxes
>price BEFORE transportation to another country
>price BEFORE shops increase their own percent
fuck you, im not even playing modern AAA slop for troons
also im from Norway

ok in what world is 16GB not enough?

>>713664119 (OP)
Videogames are dead pal, get over it.

>>713666910
time is a flat circle

>>713667226
If China actually launches an invasion, semiconductor supply will dwindle so thoroughly that there won't be supply for you to buy even for $2500+.

>>713674183
The 6080 is going to be so lit, I can't wait

are amd cards finally decent for workstation shit? I'm so fucking sick of needing an nvidia card to video edit and stream

>>713674219
If China launches an invasion, GPU supply will be the least of your worries because the military-industrial complex of the western world manufactures most of their microchip components in Taiwan. Lockheed Martin and other corporations that supply the US with weapons and mechanized implements of war would immediately demand and lobby for military action.

>>713674613
why would china invade usa, if jews are destroying mutts by themselves?

>>713674763
I never said China would invade USA. China would invade Taiwan to seize their semiconductor fabs. They've been eyeing it hungrily for quite some time.

>>713674763
go back to sucking dicks on reddit

How do I know if my GPU is dying? My 3070 is nearing 5 years old in November, and I feel like it's crapping out on me. I had issues lately that I managed to resolve with a workaround where my PC would just automatically restart itself for no apparent reason, but even then occasionally my screen will freeze up and force me to restart anyway. Not to mention in certain games my screen has started to freeze for a few seconds.

>>713667226
>>713674613
>>713674820
You won't do shit, Chang.

>>713674613
That's assuming there's anything left to save for those corporations, I was under the impression that in the event china will secure the island they're rigged to blow and I can't imagine china will make a play for taiwan to begin with if they'll give the american navy enough time to move in before they accomplish their objectives.

Either way I'm glad modern gaming is shit so when technology gets reverted back decades it won't matter.

you will need a new psu too

>>713674613
Where did you come from, where did you go?
Where did you come from, Cotton-Eye Joe?

>>713674863
I'm not Chinese and I do not wish for these things to happen either. Fuck off, retard.

>>713674869
Yeah, it's possible they would initiate asset denial, which is why China is not daring to actually do a thing.

>>713673703
No. Gpus are more expensive because nvidia gained a monopoly position and stopped trying. The raw materials are far cheaper than nvidia wants you to believe.

>>713674960
Kill yourself you fucking retarded nigger, you're the one bringing it up in the first place.

>>713675024
>gets told off
>doubles down
I brought it up as a reply to a different anon that spoke about an invasion causing a dwindling in semiconductor supply.

>>713672691
>spends 3k on a gaming pc with no games in mind to play
You deserve to eat shit lol

>>713664119 (OP)
Same here, bro. Got my 5080 last week and I swear it’s like a religious experience. Everything runs smoother, faster, cooler, even my desk feels more powerful.

I booted up Witcher 3 with everything cranked, RT on, and it didn’t even flinch. Just pure, buttery frames. I genuinely laughed out loud at how stupidly overpowered it is. My old card sounds like a lawnmower in comparison.

People can cry about price all day, but once you’ve tasted 5080-tier performance, there’s no going back. It’s not just a GPU, it’s a lifestyle.

>>713675295
You sound like the gayest faggot in the entire world.

>>713664420
No

>>713675350
Wow rude anon

>>713675083
Nothing will happen because nothing ever happens you newfaggot tranny. If you weren't a shitposting tourist you'd know this already.
>"B-But I told you off!!!"
Kill yourself. When nothing inevitably happens next year, the same shit as every year, keep in mind that I will be laughing mockingly at you.

I'll upgrade in 3/4 years when the 6080 super is out

>>713675295
So, you were sitting in front of a computer, LITERALLY laughing out loud because a ten year old game ran well on modern hardware?

My god. I cannot imagine how much of a loser you would have to be to write about this on 4chan, let alone actually doing it.

>>713672691
abiotic factor

>>713675517
you laughed out loud because a 10-year-old game ran well?

Yes, I committed the unforgivable sin of experiencing joy in 2025. Sorry I didn’t pass your incredibly cool and normal test of what’s allowed to make someone happy.

Imagine being so dead inside that seeing someone enjoy a smooth framerate makes you seethe. Bro, if a decade-old game running like butter is enough to make me smile, maybe that says more about how good the card is… or how badly you need a hug.

Touch grass, install a driver, and let people enjoy things.

>>713664119 (OP)
Just buy AMshit video cards if you're poor.

>>713674971
Pretty much. Meanwhile everybody blames Intel and AMD for not producing massive quantities of cards and putting them at a price where they'd take a loss. Sad reality is that the fewer cards you can sell the more expensive they are, and it doesn't make sense to produce hardware that won't sell, let alone do that and take a loss.
AMD really over produced RDNA 2 hardware, and it was at prices that are in the current market unbelievable but hardly anyone bought it other than Linux users.

>>713670117
>>713670278
To be fair, I wouldn't order anything straight from the menu. I would take advantage of their "app deals" and rewards from the app. I can typically get a quarter pounder, medium fry, and a medium coke for about $9 when using in app deals and/or rewards.

>>713676034
Flood the market with cheap cards to get repeat customers in the future as people are more likely to stick with whatever they got last time. The justification is there amd is just fine with the status quo.

>>713676304
Would be nice if it works that way, but it doesn't. AMD already sells superior hardware for a deep discount, and they get no advantage from it.
Even if AMD did 'flood the market' if the only people who buy them are Linux users, it doesn't gain them any ground outside of maybe growing the Linux market a bit more.

They've even tried it already. AMD produced GCN 4 and RDNA 2 cards on exactly that premise, and then there were such large surpluses of those cards for years just sitting on shelves it hurt AMD more than it helped.

The 5080 is probably the worst value for money NVIDIA has ever made.

>>713677140
>AMD already sells superior hardware for a deep discount

>>713676240
>need to have an account to use it
That clown is not getting my McData

>>713677140
Amd didn't try shit. They produced more cards than usual to feed the crypto fags with the cards and charged more than everything available right now only becoming cheaper after they were old and busted at the tail end of their lifespan. People don't want to pay large sums of money for cards over a year old and that applies to nvidia just the same which is why they constantly do super refreshes.

I think I'm done participating. After my current 5090 build becomes obsolete I'm just going to play emulators on shitty cheap PCs and on my phone.
>Just get a console
nah, smartphones are good enough, I don't really want to play new games anyway.

>>713677427
You may not like it but it is true. That is where the 'fine wine' comes from. AMD sells better and more future proof hardware.
They're still let down by the driver for legacy platforms, but RadV routinely shows just how good their cards really are.

>>713677998
you're a bit late to join the club
I stopped playing in 2016 XD

>starting at $999
lol

I bought a 5090.

>>713679729
goyim

>>713678072
you are a cultist, their slop is just as bad as nvidia

>>713679801
I am her little shabbos goyim.

>>713666910
I miss that era when a graphics card was still recognizable as a CARD. A circuit trace with devices. Lean. Not covered entirely by heatsink and fan assembly shroud.

>>713680395
Same bro

When next will be "the time" to buy midrange AMD?

>>713672691
dogshit taste, you're a faggot

>>713664420
Not that requires a 5080
When Squad switches to unreal engine 5 I’ll be wishing I had one though

>>713679632
>paid 759€ for my 3080
capitalism cant fall soon enough

>>713664420
Every good game requires a 580, tops

>>713664119 (OP)
You mean 9070 XT and 5070 ti at best.

>>713664452
>Nvidia doesn't care about gaming
>while stomping all over the competition in every single performance metric
ok

>>713684846
>every single performance metric
Substantiate your claims. Generative AI filling the gaps in poor raster performance does not qualify.

>>713669002
>3070 that high
>1080 ti that low
what the fuck were the games even played in this test?

>>713684846
8 fucking gigs of vram. EIGHT.

Nvidia drivers still have lots of issues that AMD don't have as of todays date

I'm still on 2060.
Changing that would probably force me to also change the processor to match it, and probably to get a stronger power supply, maybe motherboard, too.
Too much bother for how few games that actually require that power there are.

If it's actually sold at $999 instead of $1500 here then sure

>>713664119 (OP)
Why not just wait for the 6080/6090
There's nothing worth playing right now

>>713687320
People thought the same when they skipped 40xx for 50xx only to get barely any improvement

>>713664119 (OP)
I bought a 9060xt to play AAA at 1080p
That's as far as I've thought this through
I have nothing to play on it besides indie games that run perfectly well on my current gpu

>>713664119 (OP)
The 5060ti is $500.
The second set of numbers indicate the performance range. 5080 and 5090 are obviously not "midrange" or "sweet spot."

>>713685582
Retard alert

>>713680395
>heatsinks bad
It's physics. You're not getting around it until the switch to trinary happens (never).

>>713672691
>the last pc game i played for a bit was maybe last of us 2 remastered part 2
You don't even need a $3k PC for it
I have a 2080Ti from 2018 and the game runs flawlessly on ultra
>but i've mostly just been playing mario kart world
I want to play it too, but I'm not sure I want to spend money on a whole console for just one game. Like, I don't want to play anything else there

>>713685357
>poor raster
where?

>>713674082
The man in the picture realized his mistake and instead of killing himself just stopped wearing female clothes

how do I pirate this can I download more gpu

>>713686783
nope

>>713665409
well 5080 is likely getting a 24gb version sometime this year/next year if the rumors are to be believed
5090's are back in stock pretty frequently right now though, so I am tempted to get one since the 5080 I bought was meant to be a stopgap until they came back (which I thought was gonna take over a year)

>>713687351
You get two more years of driver support by waiting for a new gen even without any improvements. If you don't need it now then buying now would be beyond retarded.

>>713679632
>searches ebay scalpers for prices
what are they in a store?

>>713687527
>heatsinks bad
That post said no such thing you insufferable faggot.

>>713670107
meanwhile in reality

>>713687865
>cherry pick the game which runs bad
I can cherry pick games which run bad on a 7900xtx vs 4090 and vice versa

>>713687865
All you're doing is avoiding the games that go over 8gb. That's hiding from reality.

>>713686054
then don't buy the cheapest 60 card on the market

>>713688026
You'd think it would be obvious.
>I don't want 8gb vram
well don't buy a gpu with 8gb vram then.

>>713664119 (OP)
>giving a rat's ass about nshittia in 2025
lmao

>>713687925
>>713687980
Base PS5 uses FSR2 so it's not even the same image quality kek

>>713688081
>see Nvidia GPU image on thread
>enter thread
>post you don't care
dumbdumb

>>713688026
Don't like the criticism then make the cards with more than 8gb cheaper.

>>713664119 (OP)
never ever.

>>713688106
>but my image quality
but you're running a 1080p monitor. A PS5 on a 4k tv will look much better

>>713687709

That's not a 9070 XT, etard
>when prices come back down
never gonna happen

>>713688126
i couldn't have come up with a dumber reply myself if i tried, incredible

>>713664632
>check order history on newegg for something
>see the gtx 770 I bought for $300 canabux
Now the equivalent option is 4x the price, wild

>>713664119 (OP)
As long as goys keep falling for nvidia scams, they won't.

>>713688178
>specific tranny game
>"may"
>after doing specific thing
cope

>>713688185
you just did. congrats

>>713688275
highest iq nvidia fanboy

>>713688302
he's on a roll..

>>713688026
The point is very obviously that the cards are underbudgeted on memory relative to their 3d rendering power. That poster only cited the low end. It's true up through midrange as well. You irritating faggot.

>>713688250

>>713688360
do you even know what latency mon is for?

>>713685357
>but muh fake frames
this is the new cope

>>713688340
so catty since the failure of the 50 series

>1000 bucks for a 5060 with an 80 slapped on it
why are they allowed to be a monopoly again?

>>713688424
>so butthurt since can't buy one
it's ok. You can buy mine when the 60x series releases little hobo

>>713688173
I use 1440p monitors and 4k oled tv but ok

>>713688413
That's not what that post said.

>>713688479
a console on a 4k tv looks better than your pc on your 1440p screen.

>>713688467
>i priced my turd at 1500 dollars, you just don't want it because you're poor!
not surprised nvidia is only now bought by turd world status chasing morons

>$999 for 16GB
>sweet spot
No, I don't think so.

>$999
That's about as laughable as finding a $2000 5090. Your actual prices for a 5080 were much higher even before the Trump Dump 2.0 tariff excuse garbage and are now averaging around $1600 (a few AIB may be as low as $1300-ish, but most are $1500-1700 and a couple above that ) . In any event, the 5080 is not the sweet spot, it never has been - its basically an overpriced and under- VRAM'd alternative to the 5090. For Nvidia, the 5070 and especially 5070 Ti are probably the best "sweet spot" for those who don't want to pay for a 5090, but honestly, at that point you'd better off going AMD with the

>9070 XT / 9070
Which is generally a bit cheaper than the (street priced, available, AIB) 5070 Ti / 5070 models it has comparable performance. Especially given that FSR4 and the upcoming Redstone is at or beyond parity to DLSS suite and these "mid-high" level cards will require users to make use of these tech if you're wanting to get maximum performance out of ultra specs path tracing unoptimized UE5 garbage at 4K, FSR4's parity has cme a long way. Atop this, buying AMD's cards means not endorsing NV's bullshit behavior so that's a good thing. Overall a 9070 XT is at least $100-200 cheaper and at most 5% slower than an 5070XT, so its a better price performance without much downside. Most AIB cards range from the $700s-900s for 9070XT, where the 5070Ti range from the 800s-1100s currently and of course depend on availability.

>>713688573
>everything out of my price range is shit
you again. don't you get bored seething in every nvidia thread?

>>713688619
>american problem
you know the rest of the world has them all stocked at rrp?

>>713688625
>schizo njeetia shill thinks everyone who doesn't buy his trash is the same person
LMFAO

>>713688578
this
I got a 9070 for 700 yuros and still paid around 300 too much.

>>713672418
This has always been the best advice on luxury purchases. And really the only good post in the thread. If you have to budget for it, you can't afford it yet. You're just stretching pennies because you want a luxury item now instead of later.

>>713688654
>schizo njeetia
and how many retards do you think type like you?

>>713688408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCPZJJQx0OY

>tfw bought a 4070 ti super right at the end of last year before stock dried up
Phew, I'll be good for the next few years.

>>713688690
yes or no would have done.
see if you can explain latency mon usage correctly.

>>713688496
consoles can't match 4k + dlss but ok.

>>713688686
why don't you go have a conversation with your microwave, schizo?

>tfw 3060ti
>need to upgrade soon
i think i'm jumping to amd. There is a 0% chance I will ever turn on AI generated frames, I'd rather have more VRAM for the same price

>>713688804
>gets called out
>schizo schizo
look how defensive you're getting. I was right on target.

I wanna buy a new nvidia card for my pc, I play a lot of old games and I heard 50 series cards have problems with physics shit in old games, should I buy 4090 instead of 50xx? Is there a way to make old games work fine on 50xx?

>>713688769
>console can't 4k
neither can your pc on a 1440p screen.

>>713688867
>I wanna buy a new nvidia card for my pc
why
Right now you're better off getting a 9070 or waiting for the next gen which supposedly is a big step up.

>>713688859
You're really desperate to run damage control on this entire thread, aren't you?

>>713666753
Prices can come down if China breaks the Nvidia/AMD duopoly. I'd buy a Chinese card with 25% less performance if it's 50% less costly or even lower.

>>713689000
>you're doing damage control
No. I'm just pointing out you're a poorfag

>>713688496
Not with FSR 2.
Sure if you sit back far enough you won't notice how shitty it is but what was the point of 4K then.

>>713688867
do you need a new card? there's no little reason to upgrade for the sake of upgrading

>>713689054
a 1440p monitor looks shit 100% of the time

>>713689086
Your words are not enough to make its o. 1440p looks way better than 4k upscaled from 1080p with FSR 2.

>>713688496
>>713689086
this is just lazy bait

>>713684846
>crushing
More like marginally better for 150-200% of the price of the competition. Nvidia is pretty garbage in its current form and supporting sleazy business practices is just dumb honestly. Hope their conductor business crashes hard so they'd go back to proper development of GPUs.

>>713688648
It wouldn't surprise me, but enough morons decided to be easily manipulated here and turning an already insane $2000+ GPU into $3000-3400+ is just one delightful side effect. I'm sure Jensen's hands were rubbing fast enough to start a forest fire when he got elected again, so we can't even have affordable GPUs before we're sent off to another sand pit acting as Israel's attack dog in another perpetual pretend search for WMDs.

Give China your energy.
>t. GTX 1070

>>713689186
you're coping.
the funny thing is I could post 4k images to show you but it'd be pointless as you're viewing it on some shit resolution which died 10 years ago

>>713689253

>>713689042
You're desperate for my (You)'s aren't you, pathetic faggot?

>>713689332
>keeps replying
>b-b-but you just want (you)s
poorfag gonna poorfag

New GPUs are exclusively for jacking off to AI, not games. You don't need anything more than a 3060 at MOST for gaming.

>>713689314
999 GBP = almost $1400 USD I think. I don't know if there's anything similar to VAT atop that price in the UK since Brexit, the way there could be in EU countries using EUR.

Is the 999GBP the original retail price there, or was it something less so that
>726 GBP = 999 USD
for instance?

>>713689512
The VRAM Problem has been discussed in this thread.

>>713689691
that's our retail. it includes tax. Our prices for everything in £ match your prices in $

>>713669002
i barely squirm above the line
im riding this 3060TI until it fucking explodes
i still get to play literally anything @1080 ultra and at 1440p on medium/high depending the game
t. videogames player

>>713664119 (OP)
I think you should wait a bit
I've been waiting quite a few years now with my gtx 1060.

>>713664119 (OP)
I swear in the future they will stop making midrange and budget gpu entirely and force people to but prebuilt PC powered by SteamOS or XboxOS.

>>713674863
On the screen freezes, win+ctrl+shft+b will reset the graphics driver. So if your display freezes, but your PC is otherwise fine, I would think that would work.
If you have no input at all though, that sounds like a worse problem than the GPU.

>>713664119 (OP)
What do you mean?
Did you expect drump tariffs would make things cheaper for you mutts?

>>713689361
>sar hello i am rich i buy navideo!!!

>>713664119 (OP)
when is a company (probably chinese) going to come in and give us cheaper competition? it doesn't need to be the SOTA, just good enough and a lot of vram (which is very cheap btw) for games and AI

>>713691249
>when is a company (probably chinese) going to come in and give us cheaper competition?
As soon as you find a company that only needs a few years to catch up to what Nvidia's been building for 25.

>>713691182
It's pretty clear to everyone you can't and you're seething. why even bother to continue this?

>>713691321
>my e-waste is desirable because it's expensive sar!!!!

>>713682427
I paid $470 for my brand new EVGA GTX 1080 in 2017. I pre-ordered on NewEgg (paid $500) and received a $30 rebate from EVGA for pre-ordering. I'm still using that GTX 1080 and it is still acceptably powerful.

Greedy asians have fucked up the chip market.

>>713691249
Why wouldn't the same incentives apply to them too? If you can make really good GPUs you can also make really good AI datacenter GPUs.

At this moment, the sweet spot is to pair an RTX 5080 with an R7 9800X3D.

>>713691810
Nah, that's still overkill for 99% of usecases.

>>713691249
>when is a company (probably chinese) going to come in and give us cheaper competition?
This is not going to happen unless some chinese company steals 100% of Nvidia's engineering data. The reason Nvidia gets to jew as much as they do is because they're always the first ones to pioneer an idea and force it into existence, and they've built a moat with this approach. Best we can hope for is that eventually Nvidia engineers get tired of the company and go band together in some other company.

>>713691849
The idea is to spend the least amount of money for a combo that will carry you for the next seven or eight years.

>>713691810
>splurging 400 more bucks on a CPU for 5 more frames

>>713691704
This chart is exactly why I laugh at coping poorfags thinking we're in a temporary bubble and they'll be so smart to wait until prices come down and xx80 class GPUs wil come down to 599$ MSRP. In 2-3 years everyone is going to lament how the (Super) Blackwell cards were such great deal compared to their current shit, same as was with the 3xxx series.

>>713691975
A 4 grand rig won't last you 7-8 years, not anymore, not in this day and age.
It's far more efficient to do incremental upgrades and replace individual parts instead.

I wiull purchase a hawei card in 5 years that is the equivalent of a 4060 but with 24/32 gb of memory.

>>713692127
>not anymore
It's the opposite, the industry is stagnating and cards last LONGER, so long as you spend 5 minutes researching and don't buy gimped shit like 12 GB VRAM cards today. Imagine buying a 8800 back in the day and expecting it to last even 6 years, everyone would call you fucking crazy.

>>713692356
Cards can barely hold 60 fps at native res. It's going to become even wores with mandatory goy tracing.
Oh, you were referring to DLSS/FSR? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>713692491
>Cards can barely hold 60 fps at native res.
Maybe your card.

>>713691704
Why would anyone by from them instead of nvidia if they're the same price?

>>713664119 (OP)
Definitely, the sweet spot to scam everyone.

>>713691567
>expensive
lol

What other hobby gets gate-kept by a bunch of third worlders crying over anyone who has the ability to buy the best?

>>713695685
there's no price a nvidicuck will not pay for his goycard

>>713696189
I can afford it. I don't actually care.

>>713664119 (OP)
what games even make use of all this power anymore? most of the popular games these days are either older games like fortnite or dota or they're console ports.
is there anything that even makes full use of high end gaming cards?

>>713696282
VR

>>713695176
Can you translate from chink? I am trying to understand if you are mentally challenged

>>713696282
Machine learning models can use every bit as far as I can tell

The GPU I personally bought is the sweet spot.
Cheaper ones are not powerful enough and for poorfags and more expensive ones are overpriced house fire hazards for whales.
The brand I picked is the only one worth buying, too.

>>713664119 (OP)
>When will prices come back down to planet earth?

lol. they tasted the greed and saw how much people are willing to pay.

The best you can do is wait for a new AMD card and stay over night at Microcenter so you can get it at MSRP first thing in the morning. Otherwise you will never ever able to get a card at MSRP.

>>713689086
delusional snoyjeet

>>713692105
I bought a 7800XT 6 months ago for 450$ and honestly I'm gonna play with no problems in 1440p for the next 5 years, I don't give a fuck.

>>713692003
I have a 5700x3d and honestly it's a little frustrating how often I'll hit just short of 60fps or just short of 120fps and know that that the couple of fps from a better CPU would have bumped me up to the 60fps/120fps threshold.

>>713698706
>1440p in 2025
>calls others jeet
ha ha

>>713674869
IIRC the US is pushing for blowing them up if invasion happens but Taiwan was like lol no because if they agree US would bait China into invading and blow up the fabs to get global control of manufacturing with their new fabs in the works at home

>>713674863
Pre download new or old known functional drivers.
Unplug the ethernet cord.
Run DDU in safe mode
Reboot and install fresh drivers while offline so windows update doesn't fuck you over.

This should fix driver related issues. Sometimes they build up over time as you update the drivers.

>>713664420
>There are no games that warrant buying a new GPU, especially at current prices
>Still need one anyway to do Blender work
Fuck.

>>713664420
Dune awakening is pretty good. First time in ages I've grouped with randoms in a game to actually do stuff and hang out not just some silent dungeons runs in a shitty mmo.

>>713666910
i had that

>>713696594
NTA but it's in Korean and it's a chart comparing CUDA core count to the top of the line card in each generation. It implies 5080 was built like it's a 60 series card if you compare it to previous generations. 5070 being at 25% and 5060 even lower basically explains why those cards are so lmao tier.

>>713675295
literally me but 3090

>>713664119 (OP)
>high-end is the new sweetspot
stop lying you greedy jew

>>713678072
>You may not like it but it is true. That is where the 'fine wine' comes from. AMD sells better and more future proof hardware.
Recently this has been completely false for Radeon cards. The RX5000-RX7000 cards were initially hailed for not falling for any recent memes but now they are aging like shit because they're stuck choosing between FSR and TAA, and because their RT/PT performance is shit. They were basically just a stopgap until Radeon figured out how to pivot towards more future-oriented GPUs.

The RX9000 series went into the complete opposite direction regarding design philosophy (they're basically AMD-branded Nvidia cards with slightly better pricing) and it's a tacit admission by Radeon that the RX5000-RX7000 lineup aged poorly.

>>713705409
ai sloppa is killing the industry

>>713664119 (OP)
>missed the rx480
>missed the v56
>missed the 6800xt
>missed all the god tier cpus
>not even on an X3D yet
>complains about prices from upscale-vidia
>paying $1000 to view a stretched 720p image at 4k
>doesn't even have a 2k monitor
>still only 60hz
not everyone is a dumb goy, goy. ive not played anything below 2k native 120+hz for a decade.

>>713665409
I got it for 1440p because honestly I don't think the 5090 is great for 4K. I might sell it to a friend and grab the 24gb super next year just for the added boost in rendering since I do game dev as a hobby.

>>713665409
Seems like it. It's probably gonna stay the competitive price bracket too, since that's seemingly the highest AMD is willing to make. The 5060 ti/9060 xt price bracket is maybe nice but I haven't actually bought one of those and I'm not sure how quickly those will get outdated

>>713692003
400 more? The CPU is only 475. Idk what sweet spot you're hitting with a 75 buck CPU

sticking with my 3070 at 1080p until shit makes sense again

>>713708465
How much did you pay for the CPU?

>>713709004
475 bro.

>>713664420
no
but you can buy a 3500 usd gpu sweaty

>>713709410
did you have a previous CPU ?

>>713710179
Not one that worked on a mobo that supported ddr5 ram and nvme.

>>713710378
so you're saying it cost you 400+ more then?

>>713710517
No. It cost me $475 for the CPU. Are you retarded?

>>713665409
>>713666851
>>713667917
>>713708258
Helloooooooo poorfags

>>713710668
yes I know. You already had a CPU so you ended up paying 475 more, stupid fuck

>>713667226
>with China invading Taiwan next year
Taiwan's already said they'll blow up all their semiconductor fabs if China even considers it.
And if that happens we're ALL fucked.

I have a RTX3070 and have had this for years now, but kind of am retarded when it comes to PC stuff. Would the 5080 be a suitable upgrade? I dont think i can shill out for a 4090/5090

>>713664119 (OP)
Why do you even need this? My 3060 can run Stellar Blade at 1440p 60fps

>>713711958
It’s the sweet spot. Pay up.

I'm still rocking my 3060 Ti
I'll upgrade in whatever year the PS6 comes out

Call me when there's another $300 GPU that beats my 3060 12 gig by enough to be worth upgrading.

>>713711958
Go for a 9070 XT or a 5070 TI if you NEED to upgrade. A 3070 is fine though and should last you a year or two more

>>713667226
China's doing the opposite. They're building their own semiconductor lab and are going to flood the market with as much cheap product as possible to impoverish Taiwan and assert their economic dominance. Graphics cards are going to be significantly cheaper for at least a few years, in a few years.

I don't understand the "only poors buy AMD". For every AMD card you have an equivalently priced and slower nvidia card. Anyone who can afford AMD can afford nvidia. They simply chose not to buy the slower/less VRAM card.

>>713715052
Why did you buy AMD?

>>713703616
lol

The US dollar is done and everyone has been forced into poverty.

It's actually hilarious, my city has RECORD tax revenue and refuse to decrease them, but they are hiring senior level officials for 23 to 31 dollars an hour
Guess where that extra money goes?

>>713715823
lucky for the world that the only place which uses US Dollar is america.

>>713715507
Because I wasn't about to pay $800 for the abomination that is the 5070ti. $600 for the 9070 XT was already too much but I knew that would be the lowest the card would ever be for at least the next year if not ever.

>>713716105
>I don't understand why people say AMD poors
>But the reason I bought it was because of less money

>>713713612
Considering upgrading right now from a 3070 but you're probably right. The 50 series drivers are reportedly asscheeks, and I'm not seeing 9070 xts anywhere for a good price. I can probably waitfag a bit longer.

>>713716581
>The 50 series drivers are reportedly asscheeks
they aren't

>>713715507
Not him but Nvidia is comparable average performance with worse 1% lows and worse drivers right now. If I cared for proompts or dlss4 I'd have still gone Nvidia though. The difference between them is small right now.

What are you guys playing with new gen GPUs? Fucking Alan Wake 2? There are no games.

>>713716701
Not convinced. I'm still going to waitfag and you can't stop me, jew.

>>713716851
Mario party 3 at 1000 fps 8k

>>713716881
I'm not trying to convince you. I don't give a fuck what you do. I'm just telling you that your statement is incorrect.

>>713716581
I'm also a 3070chad that's just waiting, don't worry. I've been saying whenever a game finally comes out I can't run that's when I'll upgrade, but it's still not happened.

>>713717316
lol

>>713664119 (OP)
>GPU sweet spot
Good try but there's no "sweet spot" for how much you should spend on a GPU. The price-to-performance is horrid as well, I'm actually shocked how badly it fares against AMD.

>>713716254
Yes, I value my money. I'm not going to buy something priced 2X what it should be.

>>713718210
>money > performance
that's why you're an AMD poor

>>713717723
Relevant

>>713718275
>implying
Chances are good that not only do I have more money than you, but that I have more than you'll ever have. But whatever makes you feel better, I guess.

>>713687469
>The second set of numbers indicate the performance range.
I don't know if you know this, but Nvidia has been changing those every generation. The 5080 of is where a 70 or even a 60Ti would have been in the past.

>>713718709
>I have more than you
Prove it. post your HWINFO bigshot

>still using a 2070
i see no reason to upgrade yet

>having money
Lmao
Enjoy that eye of the needle, cameltards

>>713664119 (OP)
lmao line must go up

graphic cards are at a point now where I just buy them second hand

>>713664632
As long as the Xbox Series S is still getting new games, RTX 2070/RX 6600XTfags will still be good.

>>713703616
>online only Conan
Lmao

>>713685582
Nigga do you unironically believe a 1080Ti is still relevant?

>>713664119 (OP)
I kind of regret buying this shit. Performance is great and all, but i could've gotten 2 9070 xts for what I paid for my 5080. That card still crushes 1440p and I could've had a baller card for a potential living room pc. Being an Nvidia fan boy is starting to become unreasonable.

>>713721191
What about 2060CHADS?

>>713716851
I played Alan Wake 2 on my 1660 Super just fine.

>>713688867
If you don't dabble in any AI image/video generation and you can play the games you like then there's no point in spending money atm.
t. 3080ti owner

So what is a decent resonably priced midrange card now? I'm still on a 1060 and it's time for an upgragde.

>>713722324
What's the rest of your specs? You might just need to build a new pc.

>>713664420
yeah a small but good number of vidya are still worth it, however they don't really need this kind of GPU power.

>>713722698
That's what I intend to do. Seems like prices on everything are retardedly high now though.

>>713722921
I'd get whatever am5 cpu and mobo you can comfortably afford, 32 gigs of ddr5 ram and save for a 9070 xt or whatever new and card is coming out this year. You'll just be completely hamstrung if you upgrade your gpu now. Am5 is gonna be supported for a long time too, so you can upgrade your cpu way down the line.

>>713722921
If you're still running a PCIE 3/4 mobo then you should go for the 9060XT since it won't be gimped too hard by that. Nvidias cards run like shit on older hardware.

>>713722921
They're not nearly as retarded as they were a few years ago but they're still kinda bad, at least for GPUs. Though I remember MSRP for my old 970 was like 330 or something, which is about 440 in 2025 dollars 11 years later, so maybe the prices aren't so crazy. The thing Nvidia did was basically downgrade the numbering system to sell the idea of a x090 card, but also stopped making the x050 stuff outside of laptops. So that 440 today for a 5060 ti is still kind of in line with how they've bracketed their tiers, but they changed the numbering for marketing reasons, and inflation from the last few years was rough.

>>713723993
There is no card on the planet that is gimped by pcie 4.
On pcie 3 a 5090 is only affected by around 3%.

>>713725189
>anon is retarded
Many such cases!

>>713725189
Anon, he's looking for a midrange upgrade to his 1060. Nvidia's lower end use 8 pcie lanes and are thus gimped by the reduced bandwidth.

>>713664420
GTA 4 complete edition is on steam sale. add the community mods and use dxvk and it's a great 30-50 or so hour experience.

>>713664420
I believe so

>>713664524
about 10 dollars and a bucket of sand

>>713668350

Barely relevant according to whom? Werks for my needs. If the brown trannie devs stop producing unoptimized slop using the Unreal Stutter 5 engine then 7900 XTX will become great again. I play only non-UE5 games, so everything works perfectly so far. I don't care about upscaling and RT, so there's that. 9800X3D + 7900 XTX + Arch Linux - simple, but effective.

>man the 5090 is expensive lets see what the last gens best card is at
>3000 dollars
>have to hope the 60 series is worth it cause by then the 5090 will be 5000 bucks